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Subject: Re: [OM] House fire photos
From: JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:45:01 +0000 (GMT)
Sorry..to clarify.....Last post I will make on this SUBJECT...
Regards
  John Duggan,
     Wales, UK


--- On Mon, 3/5/10, JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [OM] House fire photos
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, 3 May, 2010, 23:43
> Andrew, as I replied to Ken, ALL
> goverments have their dirty secrets and I feel strongly that
> it is the duty of a free press to try to expose them.
> Last comment I will make on this On list!
> Regards
>   John Duggan,
>      Wales, UK
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/5/10, Andrew Fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Andrew Fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [OM] House fire photos
> > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Monday, 3 May, 2010, 22:54
> > This is standard operating procedure
> > by any government - the British  
> > government controlled the images and info coming out
> of the
> > Falklands  
> > very well indeed and that's now become the norm
> (embedding
> > for  
> > instance).
> > Not the place to open this can of worms John, except
> in a
> > very general  
> > sense, and not the place to push a barrow of this
> type.
> > In this way, flame wars are triggered and they cannot
> be
> > easily  
> > controlled.
> > We know...but take it elsewhere.
> > Andrew Fildes
> > afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/05/2010, at 7:27 AM, JOHN DUGGAN wrote:
> > 
> > > I completely agree Ken.
> > >   photography is a powerful tool for
> > social/ change.
> > >
> > >   The Israeli government are past
> > masters at covering up their  
> > > atrocities against Palestinian  CIVILIANS.
> > >  Until the photographic evidence of maimed
> > civilians and children is  
> > > shown the government will continue to peddle
> their
> > propaganda. It is  
> > > difficult to explain away photographs of dead
> and
> > maimed children as  
> > > a just response!
> > >
> > > I do not think it is co-incidental that the
> Israeli
> > government does  
> > > everything in it's power to obstruct
> international
> > journalists/ 
> > > photographers whenever it decides to take
> military
> > action!
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >  John Duggan,
> > >     Wales, UK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Weegee would never have been able to make it
> in
> > today's
> > >> news coverage.
> > >>
> > >> How about all those Pulitzer winning
> photographs
> > from the
> > >> past?  There was
> > >> recent discussion of the photo of Jack Ruby
> > shooting
> > >> Oswald. That photo
> > >> would never run now. What about Boris Yaro's
> > iconic photo
> > >> of Robert Kennedy
> > >> laying on the floor? These are photographs
> of
> > tragic
> > >> events, but without
> > >> these photographs, we as a society may not
> > change.
> > >>
> > >> As long as we fail to put a face to car
> accidents
> > caused by
> > >> drunken drivers,
> > >> for example, we as a society won't take
> ownership
> > in the
> > >> solution. Whether
> > >> or not we WANT to see blood, guts and even
> death,
> > without
> > >> seeing it, we have
> > >> no ownership in solving the problems.
> > >>
> > >> At least one of our major television networks
> has
> > a policy
> > >> of no longer
> > >> showing any footage of the 9-11 disaster
> because
> > it unduly
> > >> tramautizes our
> > >> children. What utter hogwash. Let's not teach
> any
> > history
> > >> in school because
> > >> there are wars in our past and we all know
> that
> > wars mean
> > >> gunshots, blood
> > >> and death.
> > >>
> > >> My opinion only--excuse my venting, but this
> is a
> > sore spot
> > >> with me. I do
> > >> understand the other side to this and I agree
> with
> > some of
> > >> the points, but
> > >> on balance I believe it's misguided
> thinking.
> > >>
> > >> AG
> > >> -- 
> > >>
> >
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