Chuck,
Having no experience with other suppliers, I ordered the Oly BLM-1 from
Amazon.
I will keep Energizer in mind for future needs.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Patterns
> One doesn't need to use OEM batteries, just get an equivalent from a
> reputable battery manufacturer. I've been using Maxell in my Minolta
> and Energizer in my Canon. At the time I bought the Energizer I think
> it was only about $25. These days reputable batteries other than OEM
> are getting harder to find and cost savings even harder. Here's
> Energizer's ERD510 which is the BLM-1's equivalent. But at Amazon it's
> only about $1 cheaper than the BLM-1 from Oly.
> <http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-ER-D510-Battery-Olympus-PS-BLM1/dp/B000301FXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1276636746&sr=8-1>
> The Canon equivalent is Energizer ER-C590 which is some $3-4 cheaper.
> <http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-ERC590-Lithium-Camcorder-Battery/dp/B00006JM5Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1276637144&sr=1-1>
>
> I think the high cost of lithium-ion batteries from reputable
> manufacturers probably has as much to do with product liability as
> quality manufacturing. Lithium-ion batteries truly are dangerous.
> Check the Energizer MSDS for lithium-ion batteries. See Section III.
> <http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/lithiumion_psds.pdf>
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
>
> Jim Nichols wrote:
>> OK, Chuck, you raised my concern level to the point that I have ordered a
>> "genuine" Olympus battery. I tried to call the vendor from whom I
>> purchased
>> the third party batteries, and could find no one to talk to except the
>> operator. I will keep them for emergency use, but will add the Oly
>> battery
>> to my usual rotation.
>>
>> Thanks for your concern.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Patterns
>>
>>
>>> Since there's no way to tell from the outside whether the battery is
>>> good or not about all you can do is trust the reputation of the
>>> manufacturer. If you don't know who the manufacturer is there's no
>>> reputation available for trust.
>>>
>>> "I can't find the ones I purchased in the list..."
>>>
>>> I tried.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the link, Chuck. I can't find the ones I purchased in the
>>>> list,
>>>> but I see that it is about four years old.
>>>>
>>>> I purchased from a California supplier who sells through Amazon,
>>>> apparently
>>>> with a good reputation. We will see how they work out. The supplier
>>>> provides a 1-year warranty.
>>>>
>>>> I have two chargers, the large, fast one that came with the E-1, and
>>>> the
>>>> smaller, slower one that came with the E-510. I used the latter one to
>>>> charge these batteries, and will continue to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Patterns
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Such a review can't tell you anything. The only way to tell is to
>>>>> destructively open them up. Where you have problems with lithium-ion
>>>>> batteries is if the charger fails and is overcharging the battery or
>>>>> if
>>>>> the battery should get short circuited somehow... neither of which is
>>>>> any part of normal operation. A properly built lithium-ion battery
>>>>> has
>>>>> internal circuitry to prevent fire and/or explosion in the event of
>>>>> overheating or short circuit. Lots of cheapie, Chinese made batteries
>>>>> don't have this vital protection. That's part of why they're able to
>>>>> sell so cheaply since the protection chip (at least from US sources
>>>>> like
>>>>> TI) costs about $2.50 in quantities of 10,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even supposedly well made and QC controlled batteries from Sony and
>>>>> Apple have had fire problems. The problem with a lithium-ion fire is
>>>>> that it can't be put out with water. Water will cool it but not
>>>>> extinguish it. You have to let it burn out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since there's no way to tell from the outside whether the battery is
>>>>> good or not about all you can do is trust the reputation of the
>>>>> manufacturer. If you don't know who the manufacturer is there's no
>>>>> reputation available for trust. This link has been posted here
>>>>> before:
>>>>> <http://t5r.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/e1/clonetests.htm>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, Chuck. That's why they are going into the E-510, rather than
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> E-1. The one review that I found on them indicated he had not had
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> problems with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:00 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Patterns
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice work. A beautiful image from the ordinary. But watch out for
>>>>>>> those 3rd party batteries. Some of them can burn you. Literally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>>>>> I purchased a couple of third party batteries for my Olys, so I put
>>>>>>>> one in the E-510 to see how it worked. Seems to perform fine.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> image was one of several that I made to see that the battery worked
>>>>>>>> ok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Patterns.jpg.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA
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