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Re: [OM] George's (classicVW) computerapparently infectedwith avirus

Subject: Re: [OM] George's (classicVW) computerapparently infectedwith avirus
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:09:00 -0400
I didn't think about it right away but, since I agree that the email 
itself does not contain a virue, I'm wondering what criterion was used 
by Jim's copy of Norton to consign the incoming mail to the virus vault.

Chuck Norcutt


Piers Hemy wrote:
> Indeed yes, Chuck, someone has an infection of some sort, and it looks
> likely that is George. Whether or not it is a virus is hard to say - but
> what is being distributed as a result of the infection appears not to be a
> virus, just a rogue email. But I would guess that propagation of the
> infection is achieved by visiting the website linked to in the rogue emails.
> The site has not been blacklisted by the checker I looked at
> (www.urlvoid.com) but the whois data suggest that an individual in Moscow
> owns the site. Who knows what his plans might be?
> 
> Piers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 13 July 2010 01:55
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] George's (classicVW) computerapparently infectedwith
> avirus
> 
> Thanks.  But is there not some infected machine somewhere on some list
> member's machine that is providing the source of the addresses?  Or is the
> swiping of the addresses remote in time and place from the current mailings?
> I go bonkers trying to read the headers.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> 
> Piers Hemy wrote:
>> I agree with you, Chuck, the email itself looks harmless, there is 
>> simply a link to another website, which would explain why various AV 
>> products do not pick it up.
>>
>> But it's a bit more subtle than you described, as I did not receive 
>> anything from George. Apparently "I" sent the message to someone with 
>> an email service run by Tigertech, who duly rejected it for Spam 
>> content, and returned it to the list bounce address (which is at 
>> thomasclausen.net).  It looks like several others were also returned, 
>> as I received an advisory to the effect that several bounces had been
> received.
>> Inspecting the headers of the one message retirned to me, I see everal 
>> addresses beginning with "O", including a few old list addresses, and 
>> Moose (olymoose).  I assume that Moose had exchanged email with George 
>> at some stage in the past, as have I.
>>
>> >From the perspective of the recipients, it appears to be no more than 
>>> a
>> further spam source, which so far seems to be trivial in volume 
>> compared to all the other stuff that I get (which is a fraction of 
>> what I could get if I didn't have a few lines of defence).
>>
>> Piers
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 12 July 2010 20:06
>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [OM] George's (classicVW) computerapparently infectedwith 
>> avirus
>>
>> If it's the same thing as I saw (it was on the list) there was no harm 
>> in opening the email.  I think the harm might come from clicking on 
>> the link in the mail.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>> Right now, it is isolated to the Norton AntiSpam folder.  I am a 
>>> little bit afraid to try to examine it, for fear of infecting my 
>>> computer.  What, specifically, should I look for?
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [OM] George's (classicVW) computer apparently 
>>> infectedwith avirus
>>>
>>>
>>>> George (and the others) may be very interested to hear that.  He has 
>>>> been using a new machine with supposedly a new copy of Norton AV 
>>>> which did not pick up the infection.  On my advice he also tried a 
>>>> copy of Avast! which didn't pick anything up either.  He'd probably 
>>>> be appreciative of your version numbers (code and data)
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>> I just checked, and found it in my Norton AntiSpam Folder, as well.  
>>>>> It was dated July 10.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Charles Geilfuss" <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] George's (classicVW) computer apparently infected 
>>>>> with avirus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just noticed that I have received the same e-mail from ClassicVW 
>>>>>> at my hospital address that I used to use for the OM List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Charles Geilfuss < 
>>>>>> charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   John,
>>>>>>>          Would you be willing to let them know so we can correct 
>>>>>>> the situation? Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM, John Hermanson
>>>>>>> <omtech1@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've gotten that link with the return addresses of 2 other list 
>>>>>>>> members besides George.
>>>>>>>> ___________________________________
>>>>>>>> John Hermanson  |   CPS, Inc.
>>>>>>>> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743
>>>>>>>> 631-424-2121  |  www.zuiko.com
>>>>>>>> Olympus OM Service since 1977
>>>>>>>> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Based on the last (no subject) email from ClassicVW it would 
>>>>>>>>> appear his machine is infected with a virus.  Don't click on 
>>>>>>>>> the included link.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
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