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Subject: Re: [OM] Pessimist Club [was Optimist Club]
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 10:52:58 -0400
A much more detailed presentation.
<http://www.co2science.org/education/reports/corals/coralreefs.pdf>

Chuck Norcutt

On 10/9/2010 3:10 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote:
> I'm not sure who is guilty of the inaccuracies in this article - the
> writer or the sources he read - but they display a clear
> misunderstandingof the way that scientists describe change.
> 'Acidification' - if the pH of a body of water changes from 8 to 7.5,
> then it has been 'acidified', that is, moved towards the acid end of
> the spectrum, i despite the fact that it is still basic by usual
> understanding. It is more acid than it was. Corals themselves will
> doubtless survive but which corals and where. There are many, many
> species. If the sea level changes, then existing reefs bleach or
> 'drown' as coral only survives in specific shallow water conditions.
> Of course, other reefs will begin to grow in the new zone but they
> will not be the same reefs and the same species will not dominate.
> Incidentally human populations are a nice analogy to corals as we
> tend to inhabit a zone as restricted above sea level as the corals
> below sea level. The theorist's DO pay attention to the empirical
> data - these comments are not based on the data but on a
> sociopolitical misreading. The fact that the seas will remain
> slightly basic and the corals will survive in some form or place is
> actually irrelevant to the overall argument.
>
> Andrew Fildes (M.Env.Sci.) afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On 09/10/2010, at 4:36 PM, Chris Barker wrote:
>
>> An interesting article, Chuck, as are a couple of others.  But I
>> would hesitate to read too much of someone who only pooh-poohs
>> ;-).
>>
>> However, the fact that he takes climate change seriously is
>> important for me.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 8 Oct 2010, at 22:04, Moose wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/8/2010 1:28 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>> Uh huh.
>>>> <http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/31/ocean-acidification-and-corals/>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
I think you guys should change the subject as above.
>>
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