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Re: [OM] (OM) OT; When is a photographer a pervert and/or a criminal?

Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) OT; When is a photographer a pervert and/or a criminal?
From: "Bill Pearce" <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:38:12 -0600
Could have and would have are two entirely different things, and a civil
suit entails huge expense, regardless of outcome. If heard by a jury, many
would feel that the crazies were just being vigilant.

 

From: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 3:18 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) OT; When is a photographer a pervert and/or a
criminal?

 

In the USA the women could have been arrested and charged with kidnapping
him because they essentially did so by blocking his exit. He could also file
civil suits against all of them and he'd have won.


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On 11/14/10 3:54 AM, "Brian Swale" <bj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Pervert or proud father?
> Kendall Langston is a Christchurch dad; a proud one.
>
> Friday on Campbell Live
> How does a father photographing his daughter playing netball get labelled
a
> criminal? How would you feel if the police were called and your car
> blockaded by vigilantes?
>
> http://wa2.www.3news.co.nz/Portals/0/AM/2010/11/12/186075/netball.jpg?wi
> dth=90;pv097dec0703a82d16
>
> Video at
> http://wa2.www.3news.co.nz/portals/0/images/site/sm_video.gif;pv13e2263f
> 5a299ecc
>
> I *very* seldom watch TV, but I did watch this one on Friday night.
>
> Netball is the female version of basketball, and is very popular in New
> Zealand.
> This Dad, Kendall Langston, has a 10-years old daughter with whom he
> spends a fair bit of time and encourages at sport/netball. He is a very
solid
> guy, and company senior staffer, and ex?? Police/Army.
>
> He came along to his daughter's game at a stadium in Christchurch. She is
> goal-shoot, so it was easy to get close to her game and he took 3 photos
> with a little Fuji camera. Next minute he was being accosted by a very
> agitated forceful woman. I don't remember all she did at ring-side, but
she
> told him that stadium rules are that no photographs may be taken of
players
> without prior (a) stadium approval (b) player approval (c) parent/guardian
> approval.  He was unaware of all this. She may have asked for the images
> to be deleted; I don't remember.
>
> After the game was over, he and his daughter went to their car to go home,
> and there was the same woman noting his licence plate number and who
> stood behind his car to prevent him reversing out and going home.  From
> what I have read there could also have been a posse of other women
> accosting him.  Soon the police were there, and wanted to see the images;
I
> don't remember all that the police were reported as saying or doing, but
on
> chimping the images were happy with all but one which had a little of
> another player, and recommended he crop that bit out.  He deleted the
> frame.  The police released him to go home, commenting that he ought to
> put some air in his rear tyre. I suppose one of the female vigilantes had
let
> air out.
>
> I note  at this point that there have been occasions when guys have been
> discovered taking "up-skirt" photos of netball players. The players do
wear
> very short skirts.
>
> He was upset all weekend over this unpleasant and disturbing chain of
> events, and eventually it got onto Campbell Live which is a popular 7pm
> show.
>
> Feedback to Campbell after the show was very supportive of the father
> including by women viewers, one of whom asked what would have
> happened if a woman mother of a young rugby player was seen taking
> photos of her son at a rugby game?
>
> I haven't tried viewing the TV video link but some of you with faster
online
> access than I have might want to take a peep.
>
> I have to say I find the whole thing distasteful, and I'm glad it wasn't
me as
> the father as I might have *lost it*.  He did keep his cool very well, I
> thought.
>
> Brian Swale.


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