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From: "Piers Hemy" <piers@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:19:10 -0000
>From childhood memories of regular summer holidays not far from Caernarfon,
Chuck, the idea of "direct" travel in North Wales is amusing, because the
crows sure don't fly along the roads there, but the A470 would have taken
you from Pen-y-graig towards Caernarfon, (most of the way there, in fact)
and through the Beacons.

Did you realise that the colliery disaster was 130 years ago almost to the
day? 10 December 1880. Very starnge coincidence, no?

http://tinyurl.com/2e7lgwv

Piers  

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 11 December 2010 18:58
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] Battery gunk

Thanks,
I see that it's only about 40km north of Penygraig which was the main reason
my wife and I were visiting Wales.  Her greatgreatgrandfather (John Morgan)
was one of 5 survivors of an 1880 coal mine explosion there that killed 101
other miners.  We have a Welsh bible given him by the people of Penygraig in
remembrance of the explosion and his survival.  I'm glad he survived else I
wouldn't have the wife I have.  :-)

I don't remember our route but from Penygraig but we drove fairly directly
to north Wales through Snowdonia to Caernarfon.  So it's quite possible we
drove through Brecon Beacons as well.

Chuck Norcutt


On 12/11/2010 11:00 AM, JOHN DUGGAN wrote:
> Chuck,
>             The Brecon Beacons (National Park) is situated in South 
> wales, Snowdonia is North Wales. Both spectacular in their own way.
>   Within the boundaries of the Brecon Beacons National Park there are 
> approx 40 aircraft crash sites. these are NOT all of 1939/45 vintage. 
> these sites include wellington, Mustang, Vulcan, Liberator, Spitfire, 
> Lysander,  Flying Fortress, Thunderbolt A10, Blenheim, and Lightning
crashes.
>
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2010/07/30/booklet-reveal
> s-where-warplanes-crashed-in-beacons-91466-26960503/
>
>
> The illustration for this article is incorrect, it shows the crash 
> site of wellington MF509 on Carreg Goch. However the article does 
> refer to the crash site we visited. Due to mist and fog visibility was 
> about 15/20 yds. We left the site after about 45 mins and immediately 
> the mist blew off giving 10ml visibility! My misinformation was when I 
> said crew was on a training flight, they were actually returning from 
> bombing Bordeaux and descended thinking they were over east Anglia, a
fatal mistake!
>   The Canadian training flight that crashed was on Waun Rhydd the next 
> peak across.
> The Brecon Beacons National Park does a good pamphlet on Aircraft 
> Crash Sites.Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chuck Norcutt<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, 11 December, 2010 10:57:39
> Subject: Re: [OM] Battery gunk
>
> Is that within Snowdonia (the only Welsh mountains I'm familiar with)?
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 12/11/2010 3:56 AM, JOHN DUGGAN wrote:
>> Thanks Chuck,
>>                        Thats exactly what I was looking for. Should 
>> have
> googled
>> it myself but was half asleep as well as suffering from a head cold. 
>> Just
> about
>> to leave for a service of remembrance for a Canadian crew of a 
>> Wellington bomber which came down on one of our local mountains 
>> during a wartime training
> flight.
>> It is a bleak spot at the best of times made even worse by our 
>> present spell
> of
>> bad weather.
>>    Regards
>> John Duggan,
>> Wales, UK
>
>
>
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