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Re: [OM] Photoshop and Lightroom

Subject: Re: [OM] Photoshop and Lightroom
From: Bob Whitmire <bwhitmire@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 19:37:48 -0400
I think one thing LR has is a print function missing from PS. But then that 
goes along with the Big Bunch processing functions of LR. I've got Qimage for 
that, and for stuff such as HDR, CS5 and miniBridge do everything I need done.

--Bob

Typographical errors generated randomly by my iFone

On May 24, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

> I'm on my second version of Lightroom and my fourth version of 
> PhotoShop.  So far I've done little but open Lightroom up a few times to 
> give it a quick look.  But I use PhotoShop at least once a week and 
> sometimes for days on end.
> 
> The thing that I do not like about Lightroom (and probably what draws 
> other people to it) is that it wants to "manage" my images.  I have my 
> own system of image management which is rather minimalist but suits me fine.
> 
> I find that PhotoShop really does all that I require and, since 
> Lightroom isn't a full-blown editor it doesn't do all that I require. 
> Someone mentioned automation in handling images as a Lightroom strength 
> which is something I don't understand, probably because I haven't 
> pursued Lightroom enough to understand all it can do.  But all of the 
> automation that I think I need can also be found in PhotoShop and 
> Bridge.  The only automation I think I need is processing similarly 
> exposed images in ACR as a group.  Bridge allows selecting the similar 
> images and then passes them as a group to ACR.  I adjust one image, 
> select the rest and tell ACR to apply the same changes to all.  I then 
> step through the modified images and make small tweaks for those that 
> have a similar but not identical exposure.
> 
> After I'm done with those things that ACR can do I'm left with PhotoShop 
> and everything I do at that point is very specific to each individual 
> image.  I don't see how automation can help.
> 
> One of these days I'll dig into Lightroom futher but I've been saying 
> that for the last couple of years since I first got Lightroom 1. Now I 
> have CS5 and Lightroom 3.2 but I still don't understand it very well.  I 
> suspect that my propensity to do serious editing on lots of images means 
> that Lightroom doesn't really hold much for me.
> 
> But you need to hear from a serious Lightroom user.  But I suspect 
> you'll find that, like Nathan, they are averse to editing much beyond 
> exposure corrections.  I wonder if, for them, it's really much more than 
> a means to pass images into ACR.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> 
> On 5/24/2011 4:44 PM, Walters, Martin wrote:
>> As a benefit of my flash course, I'm entitled to student reductions of
>> some Adobe software.  In particular, both Lightroom 3 and Photoshop CS5
>> are available at significant discounts.  I already have PS Elements 8,
>> so my question concerns the relative merits and use (casual in my case)
>> of these three software. As my images are scans from film, things like
>> RAW processing are not a priority.
>> 
>> PS Elements does a good many things, though I gather its significant
>> limitations (I'm sure there are others) include the lack of layers and
>> adjustable curves.  PS proper is at the other end of the scale and
>> likely overkill for me, without serious study and use.
>> 
>> My real question is where Lightroom fits in the picture (pun intended)?
>> I've been through the info on the Adobe website, and I'm still at a bit
>> of a loss what to make of it.  It would appear to offer significant
>> editing capacities, which are undescribed but presumably less than PS
>> ("it works seamlessly with PS", or something like that). It's also not
>> clear whether it offers greater or just different editing capacities to
>> PSE.  Lightroom seems to emphasize  workflow issues like managing and
>> distributing images, as much as it does editing.
>> 
>> There are list members who use Lightroom and PS (maybe separately or
>> together), I'd be grateful to hear their comments on the relative
>> merits/limitations of the software.
>> 
>> On topic: the images are made with an OM!
>> 
>> Martin
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