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Re: [OM] Neat image Q?

Subject: Re: [OM] Neat image Q?
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:57:30 -0700
On 8/2/2011 4:12 PM, usher99@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I see the new version upgrade is a bit expensive at least to work on 64 bit ( 
> $80.00) machine on16 bit images.
> I assume it works better in 16 bit.

I haven't upgraded recently. I use it on 16 bit images on 32 bit Windoze. It's 
reasonably speedy.

> Been largely using ACR noise reduction of late  or DXO--then export a Tiff to 
> PS--slow process.

I still don't understand the attraction of DXO. I just couldn't find anything 
it did or did better than what I use now, 
PS, NeatImage and FocusMagic.

> Usually good enough but wonder if layered NI processing is a still must have. 
> (perhaps for scanned film)

I use it all the time. If there is ANY chance I'll be using FM and/or LCE and 
cropping, I apply NI before the rest of 
processing, even at lower ISOs.

I don't work with layers of different NR very often, but it can be a life/image 
saver. With quite noisy images with 
large, relatively uniform dark areas, heavy NR there and lighter where there is 
more detail and/or more light can work 
wonders. One could do that with any NR, including that in ACR, although it's 
more time consuming.

I recently went back and revisited some images I processed years ago, both 
scanned film and digital from the 300D. I 
obtained MUCH better results than before. Some of that is, of course, due to 
increased skills. A great deal is due to 
improved tools.

NeatImage is a large part of that. I don't know about current versions of the 
other stand alone/plug-in noise correction 
apps, but NI is still head and shoulders above what ACR/PS can do and my 
limited testing of DXO.

If I were making a must have list of processing apps, it would be PS, NI and 
FM, in that order. PTLens is still a must 
have until one has PS/CS5, where the lens correction in ACR is almost as good. 
For printing, Qimage is right up there. 
And I rely on Fred Miranda's Intellisharpen II and SI Pro II

> Also one can profile a camera at given ISO  in case there isn't a large 
> uniform area to profile the image.  Wonder if worth the effort.

I find it a big help. Using the same cameras and ISOs a lot, it's much quicker 
to select a noise profile than to 
recreate it each time. And as you say, some images don't have a good test area.

NI has two types of saved profiles. The first, accessed from the Device Noise 
Profile tab, is (surprise, surprise) 
device noise profiles. Likewise, the Noise Filter Settings tab saves and opens 
filter settings. So you can save noise 
filter settings for the same camera and ISO, but different types of images.

> Perhaps different RAW processing would effect the noise though.

I don't believe that RAW processing affects noise, other than to the extent 
that is has NR capability and it is enabled.

Moose
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