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Subject: Re: [OM] Messing Around with Silver Effex Pro v2
From: Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:34:37 +0100
It is interesting that there was cultural background to Rumsfeld's utterance, 
but it was tortured and unnecessary phrasing nonetheless.

And it pales rather in comparison with some of the double-talk that took place 
at the time -- Over Here.

Chris

On 14 Sep 2011, at 17:49, Chuck Norcutt wrote:

> Rumfeld has uttered some doozies but an "unknown known" is not one of 
> them.  What he said was: "Reports that say that something hasn't 
> happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are 
> known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are 
> known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not 
> know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we 
> don't know."
> 
> But someone has suggested that "unknown knowns" should have been a 
> fourth category in that statement.
> 
> For a linguistic defense of Rumsfeld see this Wiki article:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns>
> 
> From the same Wiki article this quote from Persian literature of 1286.
> 
> One who knows and knows that he knows... This is a man of knowledge; get 
> to know him!
> One who knows, but doesn't know that he knows... This is a man who's 
> unaware, so bring it to his attention.
> One who doesn't know, but knows that he doesn't know... This is an 
> illiterate man; teach him!
> One who doesn't know and doesn't know that he doesn't know... This is an 
> ignorant man; and will be ignorant forever!
> 

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