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Re: [OM] Since we're talking about planes (actually on-topic)

Subject: Re: [OM] Since we're talking about planes (actually on-topic)
From: JOHN DUGGAN <john.duggan10@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:36:00 +0100 (BST)
Chris, As you say a tremendous plane for its time. Limited by its fuel 
consumption - A lightning with drop tanks would have been interesting...  ;-O> 
  Am I right in believing it was the first aeroplane with the ability to 
accelerate vertically?

Regards

  John Duggan,

     Wales, UK

--- On Mon, 17/10/11, Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [OM] Since we're talking about planes (actually on-topic)
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, 17 October, 2011, 5:49

Martin

I think everyone liked it; it was a tremendous machine, for its time, but very 
difficult to support once longer range aircraft like the F-4 arrived.  The 
pilots had to be good as it was limited in its navaids, had a raw, pulse radar, 
had only IR head missiles (and tail aspect ones, at that) and had a short range 
(so the pilots had to be ready to work out the quickest way home).

The Vulcan remained in service long after it was obsolete; one of my main 
gripes about it was the attitude of HQ 1Group.  It was a very conservative HQ 
with too many navigators with positions of responsibility ;-).

I don't know if it is the complexity of the Lightning that is an obstacle to 
certification, but there is too much that can go wrong, jeopardising safety.  I 
know one of the people who have been trying to get one flying, and he started 
back in the early 90s.

Chris

On 17 Oct 2011, at 00:58, Martin Walters wrote:

> What were your views on the Lightning? It has some well known 
> limitations. Recently, you weren't very complimentary about one of the 
> other Cold War planes (the Vulcan).
> 
> As probably know, the UK aviation authorities will not let Lightnings 
> fly in private hands (something about being too complex). There are, I 
> believe, three flying (or flyable) in South Africa. It's also intriguing 
> that the flying Hunters are all private. Not so sophisticated or quick, 
> I imagine.

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