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Re: [OM] Software upgrade treadmill - Picture Window Pro

Subject: Re: [OM] Software upgrade treadmill - Picture Window Pro
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:48:04 -0600
Thanks, Chuck.   My workflow takes this in stride.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] Software upgrade treadmill - Picture Window Pro


> 16 bit is not important to image size but rather to color/brightness
> accuracy during editing operations that manipulate pixel brightness.
> Beyond that it doesn't matter except to ease of workflow.  Once
> color/brightness have been edited 8 bits is more than enough for prints
> as no print has enough dynamic range to exceed 8 bits... more like 5-6 
> bits.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 12/20/2011 2:26 AM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> Hi Moose,
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out my error.  My only experience is with Elements, 
>> but
>> I had been led to believe that the same limits applied to the full 
>> versions
>> of PS.  For my purposes, it makes little difference in the final output.
>> Perhaps, if I were to make large prints, that might be different.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Moose"<olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion"<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] Software upgrade treadmill - Picture Window Pro
>>
>>
>>> Ken's right. (And I already missed my chance at an "I agree with AG"
>>> t-shirts.)
>>>
>>> Chuck and Bob are wrong on the simple facts of the matter, but not the
>>> essence.
>>>
>>> Jim is wrong.
>>>
>>> On 12/19/2011 4:24 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> I will butt in here if you allow it.  I think he is referring to the 
>>>> fact
>>>> that some of the more desirable final steps in PhotoShop require that 
>>>> the
>>>> image be converted to an 8-bit image before the actions can be
>>>> accomplished.
>>>> As an example, cloning out spots in an image.
>>>
>>> This is quite incorrect. Cloning, and its more sophisticated cousins 
>>> that
>>> are in PS, but not PSE, are all 16 bit operations.
>>>
>>> In fact, as Bob's comment suggests and as I will attest, there are no
>>> operations used or desirable in PS for straight
>>> processing of photographic images that are 8 bit. Bob and I both push PS
>>> pretty far, and there is nothing limited to 8
>>> bit in our workflow.
>>>
>>> Yet, as AG says, although making it sound terrible, there are a number 
>>> of
>>> filters in PS that are still 8 bit only in
>>> CS5.1. (True of some third party filters, as well.)
>>>
>>> The thing is, they are all artistic filters that alter images in ways 
>>> that
>>> make issues about resolution or accurate
>>> color moot. I have used them so seldom that it took me a moment to 
>>> realize
>>> why they were grayed out when I recently
>>> tried something different on an image. It would be more seamless if I
>>> didn't have to work with that, but it is a
>>> reminder that there is no benefit to 16 bit once I go through that door.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I just don't see where it makes any actual image
>>> difference in the results. All of the operations in
>>> PS that I am aware of that benefit from 16 bit are 16 bit.
>>>
>>> Moose
>>>
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