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Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Off Topic; Book on diet and heart disease & cancer
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:18:14 -0500
Sorry, I forgot to mention that one must scroll down a ways to find the 
specific coverage of Esselstyn.  Search the page.

Chuck Norcutt


On 12/31/2011 1:12 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> Before wholly accepting Esselstyn's statistics you might want to read
> this bit of coverage of Dr. Esselstyn.
> <http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/09/22/forks-over-knives-is-the-science-legit-a-review-and-critique/>
>
> There is some in-depth coverage of food consumption in Norway during the
> war and mortality from circulatory diseases.  One must remember that
> simple correlation is not the same as causality.  Different sorts of
> facts emerge when one looks under the covers.
>
> And from an earlier part of the paper "Animal foods, it seems, are
> synonymous with the Western diet, and meat exists only in industrialized
> countries. Non-Westernized populations like the Masai, traditional
> Inuit, Australian aborigines, and countless hunter-gatherers have
> conveniently vanished for the duration of this movie. It must be awesome
> to selectively choose reality like that!"
>
> Einstein reportedly said: "No amount of experimentation can ever prove
> me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."  The vegan and low
> fat proponents conveniently ignore the lack of heart disease in certain
> cultures which exist primarily on meat, blood, milk and fish.
>
> I'd not heard of Esselstyn before but he sounds very much like Dean
> Ornish.  Hopefully Esselstyn gives details of his research with Ornish
> refuses to do.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 12/30/2011 6:26 PM, Brian Swale wrote:
>> On NZ National Radio this morning there was a very interesting interview
>> with an age 78 USA medical doctor, surgeon and researcher about heart
>> disease. He has written a book; and I have just ordered a copy through
>> www.bookfinder.com.
>>
>> As one book notice has it - - -
>> Dr Caldwell B Esselstyn;
>> Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically
>> Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure,
>> A powerful call for a paradigm shift in heart disease therapy. Based on the
>> groundbreaking results of a twenty-year nutritional study by Dr. Esselstyn, a
>> preeminent researcher and clinician, this book illustrates that a 
>> plant-based,
>> oil-free diet can not only prevent and stop the progression of heart disease
>> but can also reverse its effects.
>>
>> This is some of what I remember he said.
>>
>> He discovered that the epilthelial cells which line our arteries produce 
>> nitric
>> acid, and this keeps them clear of plaque and all that stuff which blocks
>> them. The epithelial cells are severely damaged by the products of eating all
>> forms of meat and other animal-based food. And some processed vegetable
>> oils.
>>
>> After WW2, medical studies in Norway showed that from 1939 to 1945 when
>> the occupying Nazi forces removed all livestock to feed their troops and the
>> Norwegians had to live on veges, their rates of heart disease dropped
>> dramatically. Like, close to zero, despite being in a stressful environment.
>> When the war was over, the farms were re-stocked, meat returned to their
>> diet, and heart disease saw them going to hospital in increasing
>> numbers..This study was ( if I remember rightly ) published in the Lancet.
>>
>> Many other studies followed, of the arterial condition of young USA soldiers
>> killed in battle, and of the incidence of arterial heart disease in 
>> populations
>> which eat no meat/fish/poultry, such as inland Chinese&   Japanese farmers,
>> some Papua New Guinea tribes, a remote Mexican area, and others I don't
>> remember. The findings reinforced those of the Norwegian study.
>>
>> He also reported on the health of ethnic Japanese who originated in an area
>> free of heart disease, and moved to the USA where they produced families
>> of ethnic Japanese, and on the typical western diet there, their rate of 
>> heart
>> disease steadily increased. I suppose this is recorded in his book.
>>
>> Applying these findings to a group of 24 of his heart disease patients, 
>> putting
>> them on to a diet rich in leafy greens, beans, wholegrain cereals, (and I 
>> don't
>> remember what else) and avoiding milk, cheese, meats, and processed oils,
>> these patients regained better health with the linings of their arteries
>> improving markedly.
>>
>> He said that the meat etc-free diet he promotes reduces not only heart
>> disease, but also diabetes, breast cancer, bowel cancer, and invasive
>> prostate cancer, all to negligible levels.
>>
>> He mentioned the implications for the USA economy. He said that the
>> rapidly increasing cost of medical care was a major factor in the decline in
>> the USA economy - I think he put it as being the cause of much of the
>> country's debt burden. He says that a change in diet could reverse that.
>>
>> He gave some interesting statistics.
>> About 1,200,000 stent operations are performed annually in the USA. The
>> average mortality rate on the operating table is 1%. 120,000 people die
>> there. The business of making stents is worth about $12 million annually.
>>
>> Cardiac operations. I *think* he said 48,000 ops/an, but I am not sure. He
>> did say however that the mortality rate is 4%. 4% of 48,000 is 1920.  Hmm,
>> I'm sure he reported a higher number of deaths, so 48,000 is probably
>> wrong.
>>
>> In the book he said there are 150 recipes for meals, developed by his wife.
>>
>> Anyway, for a cost to my letter-box of about $19NZ I should have new copy
>> of this book here before too long. ABE Books say no postage cost, so that's
>> nice too.
>>
>> Brian Swale.
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