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Re: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight

Subject: Re: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:33:54 -0600
Got it!!!!!

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight


> Jim asks: "Am I missing something?"  Yes, something big.  Side-by-side
> comparison of enlarged images in multiple adjacent windows.  Having a
> bunch of even largish thumbnails and the ability to select and enlarge
> any one of them is not a comparison function.  Consider instead that
> your full screen is divided into quadrants with a very, very similar
> image in each.  The images can be zoomed to any size within their own
> window and the images repositioned within the window for better
> comparison.  Consider four very similar shots of one of your young
> grandkids or great grandkids.  They've been (of course) squirming around
> and aren't always in the same position.  Mom wants to know which of the
> twelve is the best.  With the comparison you can see four of them all at
> the same time and with each one's smiling countenance properly enlarged
> and positioned for the best view.
>
> Now consider that there are twelve such images.  You bring up four at a
> time and ask mom to choose the best of four.  She says (uh, oh) she
> doesn't like any of them.  Ignore her and force a choice.  You mark the
> best and bring up four more.  Mom chooses the best of those four.  You
> do it again and choose the best of those four.  Now you've got three
> marked as good candidates.  Bring up those three and maybe add a fourth
> (maybe one she was hemming and hawing about for a long time before
> choosing something else).  Now you've got four more for comparison.
> Bring them up and choose the best.  If she still says she doesn't like
> any of them you've got a re-shoot on your hands but she'll probably find
> at least one.  If you don't do this part of the process properly and
> efficiently you can end up spending more time picking photos than was
> ever spent in the studio shooting.
>
> Got it now?
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 1/23/2012 7:05 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> That seems to indicate that these programs do essentially what I get in
>> Elements 6.0.  If I open a folder from a day of shooting, in jpeg list
>> format, I can select all or part of the list by holding the shift key, 
>> then
>> hit open.  The selected images appear in thumbnails at the bottom of the
>> screen and as tiled images on the screen.  A double-click on a thumbnail
>> brings up that image.  You can compare as few or as many as you like.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> This is my first step in selecting those images worth a further look.  I
>> then open the selected images in RAW and begin work.  It even allows
>> multiple images to be loaded into the RAW converter, so that each can be
>> evaluated, but not side-by-side.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck Norcutt"<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion"<olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 5:27 PM
>> Subject: [OM] 4-up display, was: Sagelight
>>
>>
>>> Here's the description from Adobe help on how to compare images.  The
>>> number of steps required gets this method a rating of blah, blah:
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> You can compare two or more images in Bridge before you proceed to work
>>> with them in Photoshop or for any other reason. First thing to do is to
>>> exchange Preview and Content panels positions by clicking and dragging.
>>>
>>> Next thing is to enlarge preview area to be able to see more images at
>>> once. Navigate mouse to edge of left side panel till cursor turns into
>>> double-sided arrow and double-click on two short little lines in middle
>>> to hide that panel.
>>>
>>> To enlarge Content panel and have more images displayed, navigate mouse
>>> button to edge of Metadata panel till cursor turns into double-sided
>>> arrow, then click and drag.
>>>
>>> Then click on first image you want to compare, hold down Ctrl key and
>>> click on second image.  Now you have two images, side by side or one
>>> below another.
>>>
>>> You can keep adding or excluding images from comparison by holding down
>>> Ctrl and clicking on the image. To enlarge preview area, navigate mouse
>>> to edge of right side panel till cursor turns into double-sided arrow
>>> and double click on two little lines in the middle (or hit Tab) to hide
>>> and that panel.
>>>
>>> To show hidden panels again, navigate mouse to left or right side of
>>> screen and double click on two short straight lines.
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Here's how you do it in BreezeBrowser circa 2007:
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> Select up to 4 images.  Press Ctrl-Z.  That's it
>>>
>>> A new full screen window opens.  If two or three images are selected
>>> they may be displayed tiled either horizontally or vertically.  To
>>> change the tiling from one orientation to another just press the tab
>>> key.  If four images were selected they will be displayed tiled both
>>> horizontally and vertically.
>>>
>>> Turning the mouse scroll wheel will zoom all of the images
>>> simultaneously.  Scroll bars allow re-positioning each image within its
>>> own window when the window is smaller than the zoomed image.  Individual
>>> images may be tagged or rated using the standard application controls.
>>>
>>> The FastStone implementation is better in some aspects although
>>> BreezeBrowser might be different by now.  My version is several years 
>>> old.
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Select up to 4 images.  Press "p".   That's it.
>>>
>>> FastStone allows repositioning by dragging with the mouse.  It can do
>>> all images simultaneously within their windows or just one image at a
>>> time if the CTRL key is depressed.  It also allows zooming, histogram
>>> display and some other functions.  But it does not appear to have the
>>> ability to change between a horizontal or vertical orientation at the
>>> click of the a key... IMHO, an important omission but still not bad.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/23/2012 4:35 PM, Moose wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2012 7:00 AM, Candace wrote:
>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can not find anything indicating that Bridge can do this. This is 
>>>>> the
>>>>> best I can see that it does, which is no where near what I would like.
>>>>> http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-bridge-cs4/previewing-and-comparing-images/
>>>>
>>>> Video, schmideo. I never have learned well from those things. I seem to
>>>> be a 'poke it until it does what I want or
>>>> breaks' kinda guy.
>>>>
>>>> Took me about 30 seconds to find the Bridge equivalent. Probable not
>>>> quite what you want; perhaps better than the
>>>> alternatives you've found so far.
>>>> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=Tech/Misc&image=Bridge_4_compare.jpg>
>>>> Select 4 images
>>>> CTRL+B (View=>Review Mode)
>>>> You get a four up display.
>>>> Click the "+" cursor on a spot in one image to get a TV screen 100% 
>>>> view
>>>> of that small part.
>>>> You can get 100% views on all four images, but I haven't found a way to
>>>> link them.
>>>> The down arrow on the lower left removes whichever image is selected.
>>>> Right click on an image to get the menu of what can be done in this 
>>>> view.
>>>> ESC to get out; select different 4, repeat.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/23/12 5:24 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm very surprised that Bridge doesn't have that feature.  If it did
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> probably use Bridge rather than BreezeBrowser.  But I guess I should
>>>>>> check again if Bridge does do it. ...
>>>>
>>>> Moose
>>>>
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