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Re: [OM] Photo Editing Software -- Advice Needed... (HELP)!

Subject: Re: [OM] Photo Editing Software -- Advice Needed... (HELP)!
From: Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 06:53:45 -0600
Other than that, how'd you like Aftershot, Chuck?  

Has anyone compared an Aftershot raw conversion of an ORF at 100% with
one done in Studio?

I still might buy Sagelight, as I think it is fine for Canaan raw
conversions, but I still have to convert ORFs with Studio.  It's no
surprise that things like this work well for Canaan just because of
their penetration. One of my gripes with reviews of the E cameras is
that they usually use a third-party SW for raw conversion, and why
shouldn't they when it works just fine for C cameras?  I keep forgetting
the fact, only to rediscover it when I "go to strangers."

Joel W.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012, at 07:37 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> I haven't read anything yet about using AfterShot Pro but, based on your 
> query, I took about 5 minutes to play with it to convert a raw image, 
> adjust exposure and color and then convert to B&W.  I didn't discover 
> (yet) how to convert to B&W while controlling the color (similar to how 
> you would use color filters in B&W photography) but I have no doubt it 
> exists.
> 
> It looks to me like everything you are likely to require for a very long 
> time is in your $20 acquisition.  Pay attention to the tabs at the left 
> side of the screen to navigate the files and the tabs at the right side 
> of the screen for editing the images starting with exposure and color 
> info.  You can probably do a great deal with nothing more than what's on 
> the startup screen for finding files and editing exposure and color info.
> 
> ps:  I have no idea what it did with my corrections to a single image. 
> I suppose it created some sort of sidecar file describing the changes 
> but haven't checked that.  I just closed the application without doing 
> any deliberate save and expected a question about whether I wanted to 
> cancel the changes I had made but that didn't happen.  I guess I need to 
> read the destructions.
> 
> I found one thing I definitely didn't like.  On the file navigation 
> dialoge if you have long, descriptive file names (as I do) and multiple 
> subdirectory trees there appears to be no provision to scroll the list 
> of file names back and forth within their own window.  To read the full 
> directory or file names it's necessary to enlarge the width of the 
> window thus squeezing the available window space for the image.  I sure 
> hope there's a way around that as it would be a pain to continually 
> resize that window.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2012 2:28 AM, J. Timothy Dean wrote:
> > __________
> >
> > At the outset of this message reply...  I must admit that I am definitely
> > still a * RAW * (pun intended) 'Newbie' with respect to working with and
> > editing Digital Imaging Files (as I just picked up Corel After Shot Pro for
> > $20).  BTW...  Thank-you to all of the 'respective' OM List Members' for
> > bringing this Software 'deal' (After Shot Pro) to my attention.  :-)
> > __
> >
> > For the last 30 years or so...  I have been an avid B&W Darkroom User ('on
> > and off').  But as it is just no longer in the cards for me (so to speak)
> > to print my own images in the darkroom any longer...  I now find myself
> > being dragged (somewhat unwillingly still)...  Into the 21st Century.
> > LOL.
> >
> > Where are you Sir Fred Picker...  To help save me from the onslaught of
> > 'Digital Demons'?...
> > (Yes...  I am sadly aware that Fred unfortunately has now passed away...).
> > :-(
> >
> >
> > ________________
> >
> > "The point is simple.
> >
> > It doesn't take two and one-half days to make one print...  Because the
> > photographer didn’t know what he was doing.
> >
> > It takes two and one-half days...  Because the photographer knew  ***
> > Exactly *** (italics added) what he was doing and was tirelessly determined
> > to repeat the statement -- As clearly and beautifully as its original
> > appearance (in his minds’ eye).”
> > ~~ Fred Picker ~~
> >
> > ________________
> >
> >
> > FYI...  Amongst the many camera systems that I own...  I still shoot with
> > my three (3) OM-4T(i) Bodies (LUV that 'Spot Metering') and 'bevy' of OM
> > legacy lenses.  After searching 'high and low' for quite a few years...  I
> > finally managed to pick up 'Truly MINT' (LN) versions of both the Macro
> > 90mm F/2.0 (thanks Ed for allowing me to wrestle it out of your 'strong
> > clutches') and the 100mm F/2.0.
> > (They do make a 'Nice Pair' -- Don't you think?)...
> >
> > All that is missing now is the 250mm F/2.0...  LOL.  BIG BIG Smile!!!
> >
> > (As I am blind in one eye...  My 'personal vision' of the world around me
> > has always been starting at the very least with a Short Telephoto FOV and
> > 'on up').  Wide Angle lenses (even a 35mm...  let alone a 28, 24, 21 and 18
> > etc -- You get the idea) ...  Just * Don't * work for me...
> > __
> >
> > Like many, I think that I would kill (or at the very least give up an arm
> > and a leg) for th"BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU" Part 1, Chapter 1, pg. 3e
> > opportunity of obtaining a Mint Copy (Fat Chance -- Eh!) of the Olympus **OM
> > Zuiko AUTO-T 250mm F/2.0 ED-IF Lens...  As this IMNSHO is arguably without
> > a doubt the finest OM lens that Olympus ever built!!!
> >
> > Mr. Dawid Loubser...  Are you out there??????????  Can you still hear
> > me??????????
> >
> > You may be some 8400 Miles away from me...  BUT Like they say...  "You can
> > run but you can't hide!".
> >
> > BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
> > ~~ George Orwell ~~  (Nineteen Eighty-Four).
> >
> > Hahahaha!!!
> > LOL.
> > Smile.
> > __
> >
> >
> > I would of also liked to have picked up Sagelight (as it looks like it has
> > some interesting potential and the 'User Interface' looks very nice)...
> > But as I am running a Mac and would still need to purchase a new Windows
> > Emulator for it (such as VMware Fusion 4?)...  This is still on my 'wish
> > list'.
> > __
> >
> > It should be noted...  Although I had CS5 on my Mac (thanks!...  you know
> > who you are)...  That I found that the 'learning curve' was just too steep
> > for me (at least at the present time).  :-(
> >
> > I really don't want to be on my computer 16 hours a day (Day 'in'...  Day
> > 'out')...  just trying to get 'up to speed' with a piece of software like
> > CS5 (which perhaps takes a couple of years to get really conversant with).
> > I would really much rather be photographing...
> >
> > I am more than sure of course...  That all of you list members understand
> > all of this.  :-)
> > __
> >
> > Therefore...  Does anybody have any suggestions for a good software photo
> > package for me to use on my Mac (PSE, Apple Aperture ???).
> >
> > It should be noted that I do not work with large catalogs...  But rather
> > prefer to work on only one (1) single image at a time (just as I would
> > 'craft' an image when I was in the darkroom).
> >
> > Also, as I only still shoot B&W film (Film RULES IMHO! *^&%^$~!=*)...  This
> > could perhaps alter your suggestions...  (as I might want to think 'down
> > the line' about adding some good B&W 'Plug-Ins' or additional advanced
> > 'Sharpening Tools' -- As it is still film that we are talking about
> > here)...
> > __
> >
> > I would be looking for something that is fairly powerful (with an excellent
> > set of Tools)...  But ALSO an as easy to use  and understand interface (if
> > at all possible).
> > I have previously tried using some of the free Photo Editing Software out
> > there (like GIMP)...  But immediately found it to be 'too limiting'.
> > ARRRGH!!!  ^~+_-*#@&!
> >
> > Also...  I would like to be able to work on a file...  While still being
> > able to view the original file at the same time (Is this possible)?  I find
> > it frustrating having to 'toggle' back in forth between files (to compare
> > the editing changes that have been applied).  I am of course sure that all
> > of you guys and gal (i.e. 'the one and only inimitable' Candace) understand
> > all of this.  :-)
> >
> > Thank-you in advance for any comments and suggestions that you may have for
> > me.  Like they say...  "They will  *** All ***  be greatly appreciated!"
> > __
> >
> > In conclusion  once again...  I would like to thank-you Chuck for taking
> > the time to share your thoughts (and most certainly very 'Tried and True'
> > Professional expertise -- Smile)...  With respect to how you organize *
> > your * different photographic image files.
> >
> > Although in the overall scheme of things this would seem rather basic...  I
> > can already see the importance of being very well organized with respect to
> > your folders and the naming conventions that one should choose to use for
> > them.
> >
> > Thank-you!
> > __
> >
> > -Tim.
> > ______
> >
> >
> >
> >>>   Although I don't shoot both raw and JPEGs at the same time I do separate
> >>>   them into different folders like Moose does.
> >
> >>>   When I shoot anything (raw from the Canon or Minolta, JPEG from the
> >>>   Samsung) it goes into the primary folder which is named something like:
> >
> >>>   2012-01-26 - Emerson Point Preserve
> >>>   This primary folder contains whatever came straight out of the camera.
> >>>   Assuming I've even worked on them at all this folder will always have at
> >>>   least one sub-folder titled:
> >
> >>>   Converted
> >>>   The Converted folder contains the results of exposure and other
> >>>   corrections... anything that can be performed in ACR whether raw or JPEG
> >>>   including undimensioned crops for straightening.
> >
> >>>   It most likely will also have a sub-folder named:
> >>>   Discards
> >>>   Things I probably won't use but was unwilling to delete (immediately)
> >>>   Outright deletions are usually limited to those things like bad focus,
> >>>   motion blur, blown highlights, etc.  Things that can't be salvaged.
> >
> >>>   The Converted folder may ultimately have a sub-folder named Crops.  The
> >>>   Crops folder contains non-dimensioned crops but most (panos excepted)
> >>>   will likely be cropped to a specific aspect ratio.  The Crops folder may
> >>>   have a sub-folder named Prints.  The Prints folder contains dimensioned
> >>>   and sharpened versions from the Crops folder which are specifically for
> >>>   printing.
> >
> > __________
> -- 
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