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Subject: Re: [OM] And yet another dog photo
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:57:18 -0500
Chuck,

Can you explain the term "bleed" to me?  I've seen that used in some other 
instances concerning sizing of images for book publication, but never 
understood what it meant.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
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From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] And yet another dog photo


> If I can't see the halos at 33% they don't exist.  When I send the
> images out for printing I tell them not to diddle with the image at all;
> no sharpening, no color correction, no nothing.  But I also prepare
> individual print files for each print size and also make the image
> slightly oversize by the stated bleed amount so they don't have to do
> any resizing at all.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 4/4/2012 11:23 AM, Ken Norton wrote:
>>> You don't. Lightroom prints it. If you're sending to a lab such as 
>>> Miller's,
>>> you either let them do the output sharpening, or you do it yourself. 
>>> It's
>>> really not all that big a deal.
>>
>> The stuff I send to Millers has a very specific sharpening method
>> applied. I sharpen to get the pixels themselves as sharp as possible.
>> Of course, this is usually done during conversion or first step after
>> conversion. It's usually some form of 0.6 radius USM cranked up to the
>> hilt. Then in editing I do whatever sharpening to correct for ID10T
>> errors. In my finalizing process, I'll do a little bit of LCE to get
>> the edges to pop and give it some 3D life. Finally, I go through one
>> last tiny bit of pixel sharpening to correct for any mushiness as a
>> result of the editing. But I NEVER output sharpen and I NEVER have
>> halos.
>>
>> The reason is that Millers always resizes the image through there
>> print management system. It is doing additional sharpening as a result
>> of that process.
>>
>> Because of it, I don't do any resizing or resampling (except in
>> extremely rare circumstances) of the images. I send them all in at the
>> same size and let the RIP take care of everything because a particular
>> image might be in wallets, 5x7s, 8x10s, 11x14s and also used in the
>> album. All on the same order.
>>
>> To the halos comment. The problem with Chuck's "crunchy" output
>> sharpening is that it results more often than not in halos. I really
>> really really really really dispise halos. Halos can make in image
>> appear sharper, but I'd rather not go that far. It's a sign that
>> somebody didn't know when to stop.
>>
>> AG
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