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Re: [OM] IMG: More Skippers

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: More Skippers
From: "Jim Nichols" <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:10:09 -0500
Thanks, Moose.  Good inputs, even if I did confuse "refraction" and 
"diffraction", which I blame on senility.  ;~))

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
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From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: More Skippers


> On 6/24/2012 9:52 AM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> Does that mean I have to expose at f/5.6 to avoid refraction problems 
>> when
>> fully extended?
>
> Not necessarily. While all the numbers and equations the various Drs. are 
> throwing around are accurate for thin (i.e.
> single element) lenses, they are only useful as guidelines or starting 
> points for the real world. They don't address two
> important factors.
>
> 1. Complex lenses have different DOF characteristics, so the trade-off of 
> resolution in the focal plane and DOF may vary
> by lens and diffraction effects may be more or less obvious at any given 
> aperture.
>
> 2. Many contemporary lenses, going back to some Zuikos and others with 
> moving elements for close focus back at least 30
> years, mess all this up. They change focal length as they focus closer. 
> When your 100 mm macro lens becomes 60 mm at
> 1:2, you need to rework the equations. But - nobody publishes this data on 
> their lenses.
>
> The upshot is simple. Put up a 3D subject that approximates the things you 
> are shooting. Set up with tripod, focus
> carefully, in your case with E-510 live view, and shoot a small series of 
> shots at various focal distances you use at
> apertures from say f4 to the smallest the lens will do. Remember to check 
> focus for each shot, as many lenses change
> focus at least slightly with aperture.
>
> It immediately becomes apparent where the sweet spots are.
>
> I have done this, and the practical results don't always agree with the 
> theory.
>
> Another thing to remember is that the 'theory' isn't pure math/optics. It 
> started based on studies of human visual
> acuity. They showed lots of B&W prints to lots of people to determine at 
> what point, for the average person, viewing a
> specific print size at a specific distance, differences in sharpness could 
> be seen. The size of the Airy disks chosen
> for all the fancy calculations are all based on this type of research. If 
> it had all been based on my vision, the
> numbers would all be different. :-)
>
> We are now viewing in color, sometimes in a web image, sometimes at 100%, 
> often images made with significantly more
> complex lenses. At 100%, diffraction effects are going to be easier to 
> notice. At 800-1000 pixels wide on a computer
> monitor, they will be less noticeable.
>
> Test It Moose
>
> -- 
> What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
>
>
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