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Subject: Re: [OM] More OT BW
From: Michael Wong <michael1015@xxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 00:30:42 +0800
Joel,
The grains are not visible in 16x20 & 20x24 prints probably large format
films even with higher dilutions.

Do you have the American or the European form of HC110? <----- I don't
understand it. Should HC110 be made by Kodak, USA?


Regards,
Michael



On 6 July 2012 23:21, Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks Michael.  I always tried to develop 35mm BW as "normal -1"  which
> produces a softer negative.  The thing I did not like about that is you
> have to print on a harder paper and this accentuates grain.  These
> problems are still evident but a bit different in scanning and there are
> resources to deal with excessive grain and other problems.
>
> Do you have the American or the European form of HC110?
>
> I am interested in working with higher dilutions of (American) HC110.
> The unofficial dilution H is twice the dilution of B.  I need to
> experiment more, but it seems as though development is not quite linear
> with dilution H.  If you merely double the time for dilution B, the
> negative might be a little softer than one might have expected.  On my
> next roll of Acros, I am going to give it a 20% increase.  I was clued
> in to the non-linearity before this last roll and increased development
> time by 10%.
>
> HC110 is pretty economical too.  I mix 9.5 ml of the syrup to 600 ml of
> water for a one-shot solution.  At that rate I can almost develop 50
> rolls of 120 per bottle.
>
> It's a lot of fun when it sort of works.
>
> Joel W.
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012, at 04:08 PM, Michael Wong wrote:
> > Joel,
> > Yes, I do develop my B&W films with HC110 but not in general formula. My
> > teacher who taught me to develop films which were taken in different
> > contrast environment with different dilutions. Most important, I'll go to
> > print out the pictures by conventional enlarging way in dark room, he
> > taught me to develop the film a bit of "thicker" that will be more easy
> > to
> > printing in dark room. Normally, 1:20 for normal contrast environment,
> > 1:10
> > or 15 for low contrast environment,  1:30 for high contrast environment.
> > He
> > and I would like to develop the film "harder".
> >
> > But there is another story for my professional photographer friend, he
> > took
> > film but will go to digital output finally. He always prints the pictures
> > in 40"~80" due to his job needed. He will develop the films "thiner" to
> > get
> > more details when scanning. There are two different ways for conventional
> > printing & digital printing.
> >
> > Large format is a very good machine for someone who will develop his
> > films
> > self. I may develop film one by one with different dilutions for
> > different
> > contrast environment. Except you will take all pictures in same contrast
> > environment for a roll film.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 July 2012 11:55, Joel Wilcox <jfwilcox@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Michael.  Do you ever use HC110?
> > >
> > > Joel W.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Michael Wong wrote:
> > > > Joel,
> > > > The tone is great. Nice picture :-)
> > >
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