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Re: [OM] Need car buying advice

Subject: Re: [OM] Need car buying advice
From: John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:59:33 -0300
Bill .. why the advice to avoid German or French made cars? I have been 
a VW devotee since 1976 and have not once been disappointed.

jh


On 09/10/2012 11:17 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> Boris and Natasha,
>
> It's a minefield out there. It is almost certain that you will get screwed.
> The fifth is the amount on the invoice that comes with the car, what the
> dealer will show you when he is running  one of those "all cars under
> invoice" promotions, where  you are expected to believe he loses money on
> every sale. There are many ways that that price is reduced to the dealer, 2,
> 4 are some of the ways that the price to the dealer is reduced by the
> manufacturer. I'm not sure what they mean by three, but I believe that
> refers to the fact that the dealer buys his cars on time just like the poor
> saps that buy from him. Where you have to borrow money from modern day
> highway robbers, he borrows it from a bank. Where I live, that's called a
> floor plan, and he is indeed a motivated seller when something has been on
> the floor too long.
>
> I would just decide what the car is worth to you, and stand firm. It worked
> for me once. Oh, and from sad personal experiences, don't buy German or
> French made cars.
>
> Bill Pearce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willie Wonka
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 7:54 PM
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [OM] Need car buying advice
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am buying a new car and had my first test drive today.
>
> Afterwards, I was talking to the salesman and obtained some information that
> am almost positive I shouldn't have.. A spreadsheet with these columns:
>
> Net Invoice
> Conditional Advertising
> Floor Line
> Holdback Amount
> Dealer Invoice
> Freight
> Dealer InvoiceW/Freight
> MSPR
> MSPR W/Freight
>
> Can you tell me what do the first five mean and how I could use this
> information in my advantage.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Best
>
> Boris
>

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