Yes, I expected you were just trying it out. My comment is only that
the high ISO and IS performance are so good that the flash may rarely be
necessary. I just wish there was a lens for the camera equivalent to my
Tamron 24-135/3.5-5.6 I use almost all the time on my Canon 5D. The
12-50 comes up a bit short on reach and, for a 16MP 4/3 sensor is
already into diffraction territory on the green and blue channels wide
open at f/6.3. Still takes good photos though and that's what counts.
Chuck Norcutt
On 11/25/2012 1:07 PM, Martin Walters wrote:
> Chuck:
> I was simply trying out the flash. Nothing more. I took a few others
> with the flash and, as to be expected, it doesn't overpower the scene.
> I'll be intrigued to see what the coverage is like at 12mm,however.
>
> I'd say the little flash would be fine in a "party type atmosphere. It
> really doesn't make the camera seem any bigger.
>
> Martin
>
> On 25/11/2012 12:49 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>> They all look good. I'm wondering if the flash shot as ISO 1000 might
>> have turned out better with no flash. The light fall-off is clearly
>> visible (to be expected) but perhaps you could have gained the necessary
>> brightness increase with ISO alone.
>>
>> Dr. Flash (who still thinks no flash is better if you can do it)
>>
>>
>> On 11/25/2012 12:15 PM, Martin Walters wrote:
>>> A few shots taken inside (all but one at night) with the 12-50:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/14675507@N08/sets/72157632098488268/
>>>
>>> The important camera settings are shown for each photo. All are
>>> out-of-camera JPEGs with no processing. JPEG is Oly "Fine" with no noise
>>> reduction and sharpening (if I've set things correctly), and auto WB. I
>>> have not downsized any of them, so apologies for the large file sizes.
>>>
>>> I cannot judge how good the high ISO is in absolute terms. However, I
>>> would certainly not have got these with Portra 400 - hand held, sans
>>> flash. To my uneducated eye, they seem pretty good.
>>>
>>> I'm also impressed with the IS as these were taken with no particular
>>> care. Some of them are really slow.
>>>
>>> The little flash seems to do a good job for its size.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25/11/2012 7:36 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>> Looks pretty good to me. Better than my 5D at ISO 3200 and incandescent
>>>> light.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/24/2012 10:28 PM, Peter Klein wrote:
>>>>> Nathan (and I'm sure others) were interested in some high-ISO shots.
>>>>> These are all RAW, developed in Capture One v. 6.4.3, except for one out
>>>>> of camera JPG for comparison. Shot with the Panny 20/1.7.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's an ISO 3200 shot: my living room bookcases under tungsten light.
>>>>> The whole frame, reduced, so you have the general scene. 1/60, f/1.7
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180022+2-Scene.jpg.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the next three images, what displays initially looks a lot like
>>>>> what an 8x10 print might look like. Click on the double rectangle above
>>>>> the image to see it at 100% pixels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a long skinny center crop with some shadowed areas. Developed in
>>>>> Capture One 6.4 with no sharpening. The color NR at the default, and
>>>>> all other NR at zero (no luminance NR at all).
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180022+3-OnlyColorNR.jpg.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> The same crop with the default Capture One noise reduction set.
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180022+4-C1-DefaultNR.jpg.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> And here is approximately the same crop from the out-of-camera JPG with
>>>>> the Noise Reduction at "Low." "Standard" NR is too much. Even "Low"
>>>>> makes things a little more plastic/waxy looking than the Capture One
>>>>> defaults.
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180022-OOC-NRLow.JPG.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now here's a real torture test: the digital piano in my den, lit with
>>>>> only one 60 watt bulb and some blue glow from my computer screen. The
>>>>> scene looks brighter in the pictures than it does in real life. There
>>>>> are some shadows of varying darkness. The black plastic of the piano
>>>>> case in deep shadow is about pixel level 3 on the 0-255 scale.
>>>>>
>>>>> The general scene:
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180025scene.jpg.html>
>>>>> ISO 800 crop with Capture One default noise reduction.
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180025-iso800.jpg.html>
>>>>> ISO 1600 crop with Capture One default noise reduction. (sorry about the
>>>>> motion blur, even Oly IS isn't perfect).
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180026-iso1600.jpg.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> ISO 3200 crop with Capture One default noise reduction.
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180027-iso3200.jpg.html>
>>>>> ISO 3200 crop with all Capture One noise reduction parameters reduced by
>>>>> about one-half, (Color NR stays at the default).
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180027iso3200-halfNR.jpg.html>
>>>>> ISO 3200 crop with all Capture One noise reduction parameters set to
>>>>> zero (Color NR stays at the default).
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180027iso3200-onlyColorNR.jpg.html>
>>>>> ISO 3200, Out of Camera JPG with Low NR.
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/OM-Dtest/PB180027iso3200-OOC-LowNR.JPG.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this is useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Peter
>>>>>
>>>
>
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