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Re: [OM] [Way OT] And the science is hardly settled...

Subject: Re: [OM] [Way OT] And the science is hardly settled...
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:42:41 -0500
They teach you strange stuff in med school, Mike.  :-)

Perhaps the BB was a pair of Casimir plates (from an alternate universe 
of course) that got too close and banged into each other from all the 
external pressure being applied by theoretical physicists.

Chuck Norcutt


On 12/6/2012 7:56 PM, usher99@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Be advised that I am not a physicist /cosmologist and the the
> cosmologists still have much work to do but much is understood after
> Plank time (10**-43) sec after the BB.  Before that the physics breaks
> down (for now) and it is in the realm of philosophy.
>
> I do find it curious however that creation on the quantum scale is just
> nature being nature, or physics if you have it.  As far back as 1947 it
> was postulated that virtual matter/antimatter particles are continually
> created and destroyed.  Thus "vacuum" is a  very very busy place.  The
> creation of virtual pairs of particles does not violate the law of
> conservation of mass/energy because they only exist for times much less
> than the Planck time. There is a temporary violation of the law of
> conservation of mass/energy,  though this violation occurs within the
> timescale of the uncertainty principle and, thus, has no impact on
> macroscopic laws.  This is the Casimir effect and has predictable
> measurable consequences.
>
> Casimir   imagined two metal plates so close together that the distance
> between them was comparable with the wavelengths of the virtual
> particles. (Another consequence of quantum theory is that all particles
> are simultaneously waves.) In these circumstances, he realized, the
> plates would be pushed together. That is because only particles with a
> wavelength smaller than the gap between the plates could appear in that
> gap, whereas particles of any wavelength could  be present on the other
> sides of the plates.   Though this was in the late '40's by 1997 this
> force could be rather precisely measured and in impressive agreement
> with predictions---U. C. Riverside:
>
> http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/9805038
>
> Thus there IS much ado about nothing, but makes me wonder if on the
> macro scale that creation is all physics too.
>
> Philosophical Mike
>
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