You are totally right, Moose. I am my own worst editor. There is no way I
can choose which photos to work on because I am too influenced by the
people and their stories. I cannot be objective. That's why I keep
posting them here asking for unbiased advice, which I'm getting from you
and am very grateful for. The problem I have is 250,000 photos scanned so
far and many, many, many more to go. Sometimes it seems that the subject
matter transcends any technical problems, sometimes not. I'm also
experimenting at the same time with all kinds of new technology that goes
way beyond my darkroom days. Some photos that I would have rejected as
slides or negatives can be rescued digitally, some not. I keep trying. I
worked a lot with no light and fast films and fast lenses. I love
backlight. All of those factors can wreck a photo or make it wonderful. I
don't know until I post it and ask.
Thanks for your help. You have no idea how much I appreciate it!!
Tina
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Now that I've posted highly deserved, and overdue from me, praise, I hope
> a few less than laudatory comments on some
> technical things aren't out of order. :-)
>
> I'm commenting on many images, but what set me off, brought me out of
> "great people pics, don't sweat the details." mode
> is "Trust". You posted both B&W and color versions for comparison. But
> they are otherwise VERY different versions, so
> the comparison seems meaningless to me.
>
> Let me illustrate. <
> http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Manley/Trust.htm>
>
> Look especially at Color Converted vs. the B&W image you posted. They are
> wildly different in details, tonal
> distribution, shadow detail, and so on.
>
> You posted a few images of people waiting at the eye clinic. They are
> wonderful in subject, moment captured and
> composition. But most of them make my eyes go all funny looking at them.
>
> I know, I know "focus on the eyes". But fuzzy noses, sticking forward like
> 3D, just don't look good to me.
>
> Cataracts - This is an outtake to me. Focal plane far enough behind the
> eyes that even they aren't in focus.
>
> Mauricio - The nose isn't bad, and others probably won't notice, or
> care, but it pulls me away from the overall face.
> FocusMagic can fix this little OOF.
>
> Raul - I just want to get away from that nose! Cover the bottom half,
> and the eyes are wonderful.
>
> Carlos - That's the best placement of focal plane for me. Stop down
> one, and it's perfect! (Or use FM)
>
> Juana - Close, very close. FM can make the nose not OOF, without
> calling attention to it.
>
> Paulina - OK, sharp pores on the nose and fuzzy face/eyes is even worse.
>
> Why are they all different colors? Same people, same place, same film.
>
> The Christmas Orchid is a lovely composition, with lovely color. But it
> too, makes my eyes go funny. They hunt all
> around, looking for a place to rest. Either the focal plane is in the
> wrong place or it just needs more DOF.
>
> Most of A Second Opinion is nice. But the man's face looks like overdone
> HDR, unnatural.
>
> I've said it before, but ... 'Twere me, I'd find a set of settings for
> each film and auto process them all that way
> first, maybe many of them - then look back and see which both merit and
> would profit from further adjustment.
>
> That way, groups, like the cataract patients, would all look the same in
> color, contrast, etc. If someone has jaundice,
> they will look yellowish, and that's real. By now, I have no idea what
> Mauricio's skin color may have been. If you
> standardize, you don't have to worry so much about each face.
>
> Where is the benefit of individual work on these Raul and Paulina images?
> You have how many 100s of 1000s of unscanned
> images. There are thousands of spectacular images in there. Will you ever
> get to them, working this way?
>
> Your images, your calls. Just one Moose's opinions, in hopes that they may
> be of some help.
>
> Moose D'Opinion
>
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