I would guess that there must still be at least some pieces of v6 still
kicking around on your system for that to happen. Go back and visit
program uninstall again. If that doesn't help see below:
I had a problem with an HP printing application that's incompatible with
Firefox. It got stuck trying to install itself and left some zombie
thing floating around that would periodically pop up and demand the
insertion of a non-existent installation CD. Someone suggested that I
try "Revo Uninstaller". It can uninstall things (including orphaned
fragments of things by the hundreds) with great prejudice. Recommended.
See the free version download at the bottom of this page. Left
download column is the free version. Right download column is the pay
version. The free version is what fixed me up.
<http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html>
Chuck Norcutt
On 1/26/2013 9:51 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
> Hi Chuck,
>
> For now, I have left it enabled.
>
> I found another problem. The automatic update program is still recommending
> a Version 6 varient. I am going in to disable automatic updates.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] How to disable Java on your Windows computer (version 2)
>
>
>> And hopefully disabled? Oracle says this is the fixed version. Don't
>> believe it. There have been at least two formal bug reports of the same
>> sort that occasioned the release of V7 u11 against v7 u11. The author
>> of those bug reports says he suspects there are many more.
>>
>> In short, Java is a mess at the moment. Don't trust if further than you
>> have to. Like to buy a v7 u11 exploit for $5000?
>> <http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/16/less-than-24-hours-after-last-patch-criminals-were-selling-a-new-java-exploit-for-5000-per-buyer/>
>> Get 'em while they're hot.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 1/26/2013 9:28 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> Many thanks! My last removal item hung up, but I finally got it all
>>> done,
>>> and have the latest version installed.
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Olympus mail list" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 6:59 PM
>>> Subject: [OM] How to disable Java on your Windows computer (version 2)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Note: This is a revised version of instructions I previously wrote on
>>>> how to disable Java on your Windows computer. The instructions as
>>>> originally written might not work properly if you already had certain
>>>> older versions of Java on your computer. Even if you installed the
>>>> latest version the older version might mask the presence of the latest
>>>> one. To make matters worse the Java control panel on the older version
>>>> has a different appearance and doesn't match the instructions. Sorry if
>>>> any of this caused you some confusion. Let's try again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BACKGROUND OF THE JAVA PROBLEM
>>>> Java is a programming language supported by Oracle Corp. that is
>>>> commonly used in internet browsers such as Internet Explorer, Firefox,
>>>> Chrome and others. Java is one of many "extensions" or "plug-ins" that
>>>> provide added function to the browser.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, older and current versions of Java have a security
>>>> defect that will allow malicious "malware" to quietly take over control
>>>> of your computer. You will never know it happened because it has no
>>>> obvious characteristics and current anti-virus software is unlikely to
>>>> find the possibly hundreds or thousands of variations of malware that
>>>> will likely spring up to take advantage of the defect. Some are already
>>>> for sale on the internet to anyone who'd like to steal your information
>>>> or otherwise take surreptitious control of your computer.
>>>>
>>>> To be clear, the Java "problem" is not a virus... Java itself is a good
>>>> thing when it works as it's supposed to. Rather the Java "problem" is
>>>> that it's a security "hole" in Java that can allow a virus and other
>>>> types of malware to sneak onto your computer. The analogy is really too
>>>> simple but, if you considered Java like one of many gates in a fence
>>>> protecting your computer, the Java "problem" is that the Java gate has a
>>>> hole in it.
>>>>
>>>> The solution it to disable Java until a safe version is available (which
>>>> some say could take as long as 2 years). But do be aware that some
>>>> internet sites you presently use may no longer work or work properly if
>>>> they are dependent on Java. For example, my wife Peg uses a crossword
>>>> puzzle website to print a weekly puzzle. The site is:
>>>> <http://www.sundaycrosswords.com/ccpuz/MPuz.php> If Java is disabled,
>>>> as soon as you visit this site you will be presented with a big gray
>>>> square with a message stating that "A plug-in is needed to display this
>>>> content". It then offers to install the plug-in for you. It doesn't
>>>> tell you but the plug-in is Java. Do *not* accept the invitation. Even
>>>> if you actually do want to use this site it's not necessary to
>>>> re-install Java. You just need to return to the Java control panel to
>>>> re-enable it.
>>>>
>>>> The question is... should you re-enable it to use this or some other web
>>>> site you like? If it's this site the answer is no. It's not worth the
>>>> risk to print a free cross-word puzzle. It's especially true for this
>>>> website since, if you do re-enable Java for this site the next thing you
>>>> see is another message asking you if it's OK to run this application. If
>>>> you see a message like this then say "no" and quit the website. The
>>>> reason for the permission message is that the application did not
>>>> present adequate security credentials that would identify who created
>>>> it. In simpler words... it cannot be trusted because it's asking for
>>>> access to your computer and hard drive but can't or won't identify
>>>> itself according to internet security standards.
>>>>
>>>> But what if the website you're trying to use is your bank and the
>>>> banking application you normally use won't run because Java is disabled.
>>>> That's a harder question. If you really need to use it I would call
>>>> the bank. Express your concern for the Java security problem and ask if
>>>> their Java application is safe to use. If they say "yes" then re-enable
>>>> Java and give it a try. But, if you see the same type of pop-up message
>>>> asking permission to run, then stop believing the bank. It's quite
>>>> possible that their web site has been infected with an imposter
>>>> application that can't identify its owner as your bank. Let's hope that
>>>> doesn't happen... but it might.
>>>>
>>>> =====================================================================
>>>> So, on to how to disable Java
>>>> =====================================================================
>>>>
>>>> (1) The first step to disabling Java is to display the Windows Control
>>>> panel
>>>>
>>>> For Windows XP: Click on "Start" (at lower left corner) then "Settings"
>>>> then "Control Panel"
>>>>
>>>> For Windows 7: Click on "Start" (the circular Windows icon at lower
>>>> left corner) then "Control Panel". At upper right you will see a pull
>>>> down menu "View by: Category". Click on "Category" and then on "Large
>>>> Icons" in the pull down menu items. This will display all of the
>>>> control panel icons rather than just the categories of items.
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> (2) The second step is to remove any and all old versions of Java.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows XP: Double-click on the "Add or Remove Programs" icon
>>>>
>>>> For Windows 7: Click on the "Programs and Features" icon
>>>>
>>>> These are simply different names for the same thing. For both versions
>>>> Windows will display a long list of all the programs installed on your
>>>> computer. Be patient.. it may take several minutes to display the
>>>> entire list on older computers.
>>>>
>>>> Once the list is displayed (in alphabetical order) scroll down the list
>>>> looking for anything whose name starts with "Java". If the only thing
>>>> you see is called "Java 7 Update 11" you already have (as of 1/26/2013)
>>>> the latest version of Java and can jump ahead to Step 3.
>>>>
>>>> Any Java item you see whose version number is less than 7 is old and
>>>> needs to be deleted by "uninstalling" it. Even if the version number is
>>>> also 7 but has an update number less than 11 it's also old and needs to
>>>> be uninstalled. It's possible there may be several of these old Java
>>>> entries. For each one to be removed start first by selecting it with a
>>>> single click. After the click:
>>>>
>>>> For Windows XP: You will see a small, highlighted information panel
>>>> displayed for the entry. It usually consists of several lines. At the
>>>> lower right corner of the panel will be a button labeled "Remove". Click
>>>> the "Remove" button and that particular Java entry will be uninstalled.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows 7: Perform a right click on the Java line item you want to
>>>> remove. You will see a tiny pop-up item labeled "Uninstall". Click on
>>>> the "Uninstall" item and the Java entry will be uninstalled. Also for
>>>> Windows 7 you may see another pop-up panel asking you to verify whether
>>>> you agree to removing this program. Click "Yes" to continue.
>>>>
>>>> Now do the same for any other Java items you see listed *unless* it's
>>>> "Java 7 Update 11" (or possibly a later version with higher numbers)
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> (3) The third step. Once all old Java items have been uninstalled you
>>>> can return to the detailed control panel icon display.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows XP: Click on the "X" in the upper right corner of the
>>>> programs listing window. The window will close and reveal the control
>>>> panel icons window underneath.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows 7: Click on the blue and white "back arrow" (<-) at upper
>>>> left. This will return you to the "All Control Panel Items" display.
>>>>
>>>> Next, for both Windows versions:
>>>>
>>>> Now that the control panel icons are displayed look for one called
>>>> "Java" (the icon is a red, white and blue steaming cup of coffee). If
>>>> you do find a Java control panel icon it should be for the Java 7 update
>>>> 11 version or later. That's the one we said we could keep back in step
>>>> 2. That doesn't mean it's safe but, if you have one of these later
>>>> versions of Java, you can skip ahead to step 5.
>>>>
>>>> (4) Step 4 is in case you don't see a Java Control panel icon in the
>>>> Windows control panel. It means that you have successfully removed all
>>>> Java versions. But, in order to continue, it's necessary to update to
>>>> the (still dangerous) latest level which can be found here:
>>>> <http://www.java.com/en/download/inc/windows_new_xpi.jsp?locale=en>
>>>>
>>>> Click on the link above (which takes you to the Java download page) and
>>>> then on the red "Install" button on the Java download page. You will be
>>>> prompted for a place to save the installation file. Remember where you
>>>> put it since, after the download completes, you must find the file and
>>>> double click on its name to cause it to install the latest version of
>>>> Java.
>>>>
>>>> After the installation completes you should exit your browser and
>>>> restart it. This allows the browser to note that a later version of
>>>> Java has been installed. This latest version of Java will install the
>>>> missing Java control panel which is required to perform step 5. You can
>>>> now continue with the instructions below and use the newly installed
>>>> Java control panel to disable what you just installed. Yes, that's
>>>> right... to disable what you just installed.
>>>>
>>>> (5) Step 5. Return to the Windows control panel and to the Java control
>>>> panel within it (see Step 1 above). We want to click on the Java control
>>>> panel icon to cause the Java control panel to open.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows XP: Double click the Java control panel icon.
>>>>
>>>> For Windows 7: A single click is enough
>>>>
>>>> Be patient, the Java control panel can be a bit sluggish in responding.
>>>> When it finally opens you will see 5 tabs at top. Click on the
>>>> "Security" tab and then (at the top) *uncheck* the box next to "Enable
>>>> Java content in the browser" by clicking on the box. After turning the
>>>> check mark off click on "Apply" (at lower right) and then click on "OK".
>>>> If you are running Windows 7 it may pop up a couple of "Are you sure
>>>> you want to do this" sort of warning messages. Say "Yes". You're done.
>>>> Java is disabled for all browsers.
>>>>
>>>> If you need to re-enable Java (for example, to use your banking
>>>> application) then return to the Windows and Java control panels (Step 1)
>>>> and repeat the instructions above (Step 5) but click the check mark
>>>> again to turn Java back on. Don't forget to click "apply" and "OK" to
>>>> actually make it happen. When you get through with your bank or other
>>>> extremely important application (so important you're willing to take a
>>>> risk)... remember to turn Java off again.
>>>> =====================================================================
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>> Jan 26, 2013
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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