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Subject: Re: [OM] [Way OT] Why the global warming component to the recent northeast blizzard is unknown at this point
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:44:09 +0100
Oh, so now we should get rid of the scrubbers and start polluting more to 
offset the other kind of pollution? Sure, great deal. Would probably bring 
health costs down too as people died younger from various lung diseases. 
Win-win-win!

Nathan Wajsman
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On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Ken Norton wrote:

>> Can't possibly be says they... but two proof of concept experiments in
>> Copenhagan and CERN have so far gone his way.  Clouds are one of the
>> biggest holes in any climate model since they're very poorly understood.
>>  Watch this space. :-)
> 
> Exactly. And we've also contributed to this problem with the the
> "scrubbers" and other systems to remove soot and particulate from
> exhaust/smoke. Sulfur removal is another contributor. What's happening
> is that we are lowering the materials that contribute to cloud (and
> precipitation) formation. Clouds are important as UV/IR
> reflectors/filters. Without clouds we get greater surface warming. But
> on the flip side, clouds reduce the long-wavelength IR radiation back
> into space.
> 
> Where I disagree with your statement is the "they're very poorly
> understood". They may not be as understood as we like, but I think
> we've got more knowledge about clouds and how they work in the global
> system than you are giving credit for.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ken Norton
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