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Subject: Re: [OM] Kiev 4
From: Rick Beckrich <rbeckrich@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:04:01 -0400
Delightful, but I still like the Hennig comments from Russ P.'s old site:

http://www3.telus.net/public/rpnchbck/zconrfKiev.htm

And, to offer my creds:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/rffgallery/showphoto.php?photoid=137417

Old crooked finger Rick

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hmm, isn't that strange, I was compiling an answer before I got to read
> your
> reference to the grammarians. It seems you know us too well. Joel (although
> I do belive you belong with the circle too).
>
> "To resile" is indeed a verb, intransitive, and in that sense I would have
> to say that "to be resilient" derives from the verb, rather than vice versa
> as you suggest.
> http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/resile concurs
> with your view that it is not (directly) from Classical Latin (you'll note
> I
> have offered the American English entry - the British English is
> identical),
> and also with your etymology.
>
> Meanwhile, back to the Kiev, for those who want to lay to rest the
> speculation as to whether it's a stolen design, made on stolen machine
> tools, with stolen parts, I can recommend Larry Gubas visit report to Jena
> for the Zeiss Historica journal which is freely available at:
> http://www.zeisshistorica.org/sample.html
>
> In short, the designs were legally obtained from Carl Zeiss, the machine
> tools were made to order for export to Kiev, and were initially set up in
> Saalfeld (not Dresden, not Jena) to demonstrate that they were fully
> functional, before being dismantled and reinstalled in Kiev. Some cameras
> were assembled in Saalfeld from the demonstration run, and some parts which
> were left over from the demonstration run were used in Kiev.
>
> Piers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DZDub [mailto:jdubikins@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 15 March 2013 12:13
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] Kiev 4
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Brian Swale <bj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Has the noun 'resilience' got anything to do with the verb 'to resile' ?
> >
>
> I don't think there is such a verb in an active form like that.  It
> devolves
> in use from the passive "to be resilient," whereas "resilient"
> itself derives from "silio" -- to spring forth, and "re +silio" would mean
> "I keep popping back up every time I get slammed."  I suspect it is not a
> classical form but is more recent.  Most of our words from Latin are from
> medieval Latin.  Perhaps Chris or Piers can give you a proper answer.
>
> To some degree I have resilience.  And I still have a perfectly good OM-1.
> --snip
>
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