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Subject: Re: [OM] WAS Nathan's PAD 3/1/2014: a serious Polish señorita NOW What's a senorita?
From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 21:55:22 +0100
I can't speak for Nathan but I suspect the systematic use of the term  
comes from our common friend Lluis who lives in Barcelona.

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Barcelona+Lug+Gathering+2013/DSCF0179.JPG.html
Second on the right whereas Nathan is second on the left - your  
servant at the far end next to a senorita ...


More importantly, here is one of his sites, well worth a LONg stroll  
IMHO - Features senoritas, you have been warned ;-)
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/

Amities
Philippe



Le 5 janv. 14 à 21:21, Moose a écrit :

> On 1/5/2014 6:13 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>> Me and some of the rest of you boys don't even need the "young"  
>> part, and maybe not even the "attractive" side if we be talking  
>> about traditional cultural concepts of attractive.
>
> Read carefully what is written carefully. :-)
>
> "It appears list usage is "any woman young and attractive 'ENOUGH'  
> that 'I' like looking at her image"
>
> "Young enough" for me is probably not young enough for the few  
> whippersnappers on the list.
>
> "Attractive enough" for you may or may not be attractive enough for  
> me. ;-)
>
> I was saying, or trying to get across, that the definition as used  
> here is very loosely defined, and by whoever uses it.
>
>> Me, I think language has a special niche for words that come to  
>> mean things outside what they normally mean. Let's see. Me and  
>> Chris and John and Piers, for example, think different about words  
>> such as roger, and shag. Their UK slang definitions don't have  
>> anything to do with their proper meanings, but they work just fine  
>> in the sense of imparting certain other meanings. And we won't even  
>> talking about knockin' up a friend. <g>
>>
>> For me, senorita is just a code word, or a colloquialism, to let me  
>> know I might need to pay a little extra attention.
>
> I agree 100%. My suggestion was that, as a code word, freighted with  
> meaning beyond the dictionary definition,
> translation into other languages may not work.
>
>> I'm sure there are folks here that could make a case for sexism and  
>> ageism and dumbism and oldfartism, but I think it works just fine,  
>> not that I'd be opposed to using fraulein when appropriate, or even  
>> when not.
>
> And that would probably work, have the same sense of additional  
> meaning, for fewer here than does Señorita. Whereas
> Polish "Miss"* doesn't have that same sense, "Several Misses in this  
> week's post." isn't all that enticing, to me.
>
> Greek Χάνετε is indeed Greek to me.
>
>> As I recall, the term señorita came into usage on this list as a  
>> result of Nathan's posts from Alicante and environs, in which case  
>> many if not most of the subjects actually were senoritas.
>
> Yup, but, to this reader, has often strayed far from that origin. I  
> sometimes see it applied to middle aged women, some
> of whom aren't particularly attractive to me. Thus the 'definition'  
> above.
>
> This started out half tongue in cheek, but has deteriorated into  
> excessive seriousness.
>
> Where's The Fun Moose
>
> * I hope the on-line dictionaries have not led me astray. The only  
> other Polish speaker I know is my late wife's mother,
> now 96. And conversations with her have a tendency to go off track,  
> even become surreal at times.
>
> -- 
> What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
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