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Subject: Re: [OM] swans
From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:13:30 -0600
I'm sure we have migratory population of these rats, but we do have a 
substantial population of residents, who somehow despite their background, 
survive the very hot un-Canadian summers. I wish our stupid secretary of 
state would get as vigorous on the Canadians as the Mexicans.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chuck Norcutt
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:58 AM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] swans

Canada geese have two different population types.  One is the normal
migratory goose which the "flyway" treaties between the US and Canada
were designed to protect.  The other is the resident goose population
who (for whatever reasons) do not migrate as their ancestors did.
Migratory geese are protected, resident geese are not.  The problem is,
how do you tell the difference?  The US Fish & Wildlife Service has been
trying to solve this (unsuccessfully) for a long time.  See:
<https://www.fws.gov/migratorybirds/RegulationsPolicies/geese.html>

Chuck Norcutt


On 2/9/2014 10:22 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> Our local Zoo has a world class problem, aw hell, our whole state has a
> problem with resident Canadian geese. The damn rats with wings are
> everywhere, leaving their own special marks behind. They inhabit the zoo
> because that's where the food is and guns aren't. The airport has hunters 
> on
> a regular basis who have special permits to shoot on sight Canadian geese.
> they spray the eggs with Pam coking spray. It helps, but a mass 
> eradication
> program would be the only , if you will accept the term, final solution.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Norcutt
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:01 PM
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>
> Mute swans in the US are considered an invasive species that threaten
> our native birds, other wildlife and aquatic vegetation.  They used to
> be protected by a treaty between the US and Canada to protect migratory
> waterfowl along the "Atlantic Flyway".  But they were declared an
> invasive species and lost that protection about 10 years ago.  The US
> Fish and Wildlife service is getting aggressive over control measures
> and urging the states to take measures to significantly reduce the
> population.
> <http://www.fws.gov/refuge/Blackwater/what_we_do/invasivespecies.html>
> In some states they are hunted in extended hunting seasons or simply
> killed outright.  In Massachusetts the preferred solution (in 2006) was
> egg addling. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_egg_addling>
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2014 3:14 PM, John Hudson wrote:
>> Knowingly, or unknowingly, damage a swan in the UK and you could be
>> looking
>> at a very serious period of incarceration with little chance of parole !
>>
>> jh
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 12:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] swans
>>
>>
>> Thanks.  I haven't seen any swans since we left the Boston area 7 years
>> ago.  But they're not very welcome there.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/2014 10:45 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote:
>>> Local residents of the pond down the road ½mi/1km. We've had some temps
>>> in the 20'sF and they've kept this patch of water open for feeding.
>>>
>>> http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=11326
>>>
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