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Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Norah Selfie
From: "Wayne Harridge" <wayne.harridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:50:34 +1000
Agree 100% !

Now I'd like to hear the rant about bottled water.

...Wayne


> 
> 1. Disposables aren't disposable unless someone changed the law while I
> wasn't looking. It's not legal in most places to put 'night soil' in the
garbage.
> The packaging never used to claim 'disposable'. We just call them that.
And
> they are a nasty litter problem too.
> 2. It would be possible to make them compostable using a biodegradable pad
> and biodegradable plastic film made from cornstarch. But the same
> universalised hygiene concerns apply - daft to a rural inhabitant but
> significant to urban apartment dwellers.
> 3. Who is thinking? Water is recyclable, front loaders use a lot less of
it, dry
> them on a line for most of the year down your way, use eco-friendly low
> phosphate detergents. Even a pick-up service is better.
> 4. People get silly about water saving. Are you in drought (as we
sometimes
> are)? A woman where I worked suggested that people used one of those
> sanitary hand washes I the staff bathroom (which she and her squad had
> thoughtfully placed on the sinks) to 'save water' for environmental
reasons. I
> raised a hand and asked how much water was used to make the bottle it
> came in and the alcohol base of the product. I said I wasn't sure but I
> suspected that it was in the order of five times the amount of water that
> they'd save. And far more could be saved if they didn't flush the toilet
if
> they'd only had a pee. Didn't make me popular but the silly little bottles
> disappeared. I can't stand stupid.
> 5. The killer argument is always money. We saved enough money using cloth
> with our first over the two years to pay for the washing machine. The
initial
> outlay for good quality diapers/nappies (which lasted for the second child
> and then became good cleaning cloths for a while) was a slight minus. The
> labour of air drying was offset by the lack of shopping and struggling
home.
> There was a small cost in using a service when there was no choice and a
few
> carefully disposed 'disposables' when travelling.
> 6. The main downside is the initial cleaning but, you have to wipe their
little
> arses anyway so how much extra unpleasantness is that? Some women have
> claimed to me that they can't manage in the first, exhausted period after
> birth but isn't that what husbands/partners are for? I was.
> 
> Andrew Fildes
> afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.soultheft.com
> 
> Author/Publisher:
> The SLR Compendium:
> revised edition -
> http://blur.by/19Hb8or
> The TLR Compendium
> http://blur.by/1eDpqN7
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/04/2014, at 8:53 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
> 
> > I always used cloth diapers; however, the thinking now is that
disposable
> > might be more environmentally friendly considering all of the water,
> > detergent, drying, etc. that is involved with cleaning the cloth ones.
If
> > they made a disposable diaper that could be composted into the garden,
> that
> > would probably be best!!
> 
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