Not necessary, Chuck, I remember the episode in question. The "restaurant
business consultant " was ex-professional footballer, latterly restaurateur
and TV restaurant-kitchen-reality-show star Gordon Ramsay. I suspect your
quotes from him are missing at least two ripe and unrepeatable adjectives.
But your point was well-made (if not well-taken).
Piers
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Chuck Norcutt
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Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Divertimento
Sorry, for the non-American readers I forgot to add a link to Eggs
Benedict: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggs_benedict>
Chuck Norcutt
On 7/31/2014 7:52 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> I just translated all that to "too stubborn". If you look at the
> histogram for that image you can't help but come to the conclusion
> that the image is 1 stop overexposed. Whether the final image should
> look like Moose interpreted it (who has never seen it) is a different
> story... it's still one stop overexposed.
>
> You said "C & C welcome". But it's clear you didn't like what you got.
> If your intention is to sell prints you only need worry about
> detailed processing of a small number. What you're determined are the
> best of the best. You've already realized that you can't sell what
> the customer's don't like... even if that's only the chosen aspect ratio.
> Pay attention to how others view the photo even if it's nowhere near
> your own personal vision.
>
> That last line reminded me of a television show which featured a
> restaurant critic and restaurant business consultant. One of the
> shows featured a restaurant which had previously only been open for
> lunch and dinner. The owner decided to add breakfast to his
> offerings. But it did not go well, breakfast business was relatively
> poor. The owner hired the consultant to find out how he could improve
> his business. The first criticism the consultant made was that the
> breakfast menu did not include "Eggs Benedict". He said that in the
> US "Eggs Benedict" is the single most important and highest selling
> item on the breakfast menu. He
> asked: "Why don't you offer Eggs Benedict?" The owner replied: "I
> don't like them."
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 7/31/2014 4:26 PM, bj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>
>> Moose wrote
>>
>> And yet, more is possible.
>> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/BSwale/Red_on_Grey2.htm>
>>
>>
>> People often like things that aren't strictly properly exposed.
>> Perhaps the glare/flare across the top of the rock is appealing to
>> some people.
>>
>> In my opinion, being a person who was there at the time, Moose's
>> modification is an epic fail. Why?
>>
>> The colours in the
>> foreground and of the red rose hips are grossly exaggerated.
>> The"sky"
>> detail at the top ( it wasn't actually sky, but the lower side of
>> very cold cloud) has been modified excessively where the mist
>> interacts with the rock, AND above the rock, the cloud seems to have
>> been replaced with a uniform layer of grey paint, totally
>> obliterating some detail such as the power pylon on the ridge-top at the
right.
>>
>> The flare/glare on the
>> rock is largely snow on south-facing rock faces, where a frigid blast
>> from the South Pole had plastered it.
>>
>> My intention in showing you all
>> the image I originally did was to give one rare example (for me) of
>> unsolicited public approval by people some of whom were familiar with
>> the area. As a possible pointer to what the great unwashed public
>> "might" like when it comes to sales of prints, this was valuable to me.
>>
>>
>> Am I Stubborn? Lazy? Cheap?. Well stubborn probably Yes, Cheap; well
>> that's a matter of priorities. By shooting only (mainly) jpegs I can
>> get about 420 images on the main card I use. Were I to shoot RAW as
>> well, I'd fit only about 100 unique images on it.
>> My computer gets clogged by
>> RAW images; they slow up several important programs.
>> I have yet to see
>> an image that I can recall where the use of RAW files has saved the
>> day
>> - with proof. So why bother?
>>
>> Lazy - I don't agree. I'm already accused at home for spending too
>> much time on the computer. I do a lot of writing and corresponding
>> (different things), as well as fiddling with photos.
>>
>> I'm not prepared to buy a new computer yet. I'd like to buy a
>> top-of-the-range Olympus camera ( the OM D! or whatever) but it will
>> have to wait. We've just spent $8000 on double-glazing half the house.
>> Another $2500 this week on having a high barge-board replaced which
>> failed through rot due to faulty workmanship. Too high for me at my
>> age to risk a bad fall from a significant (2nd story) height. I have
>> a dentist's appointment today which will set me back $1350; part of a
>> $9500 plan - not all of which I have yet committed to yet. I'd like
>> to get a Yamaha 115 outboard for my boat, but that's $14,000 ...
>>
>> I have
>> to manage with what I have and the E-3 is the main one right now.
>> Priorities. It was very useful for me to see public response to that
>> shot.
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
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