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Re: [OM] OT: Recent debate on crop v FF - Chuck

Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Recent debate on crop v FF - Chuck
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 09:22:28 -0500
Scratch that.  More coffee required.

Chuck Norcutt


On 1/18/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
I meant to add that I was surprised that the DNG conversion did not
include the EXIF data.

Chuck Norcutt


On 1/18/2015 4:56 AM, Philippe wrote:
Thanks Chuck - I have no definite opinion so far.
The files were posted because two lugger-friends were arguing the pros
and cons of fuji v nikon and FF v APS-C

What I think right now is that the dials and settings on the N are far
easier to adjust.
The fuji is less expensive and lighter on the shoulder than the N was.
The end result for screen display may be quite similar in terms of IQ.

I don't know yet if fiddling with the files in LR is less time
consuming with one or the other.

I haven't checked the in-camera produced JPEGs either - this will be
my next point of attention as the fuji is excellent at that and I had
never shot jpegs with the Nikon.

Amities
Philippe


Le 18 janv. 2015 à 01:45, Chuck Norcutt
<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

I concentrated only on the first pair.  After converting both images
from raw using only exposure and clarity controls I shrunk the Nikon
image to the same size as the Fuji to be able to make a good visual
comparison.  Both raw files recovered from over and underexposure
well. The Fuji raw required a bit less shadow and highlight control
to produce a good histogram. The Fuji image was considerably more
saturated or vibrant.  However, the Nikon image looked more realistic
with its more natural orange color.

I expected to see more depth of field in the Fuji image since both
shots were made at the same aperture.  However, if it's there, I
couldn't notice it.  That may be due to different focus points... or
soft edge oranges may be simply hard to judge.

Chuck Norcutt



On 1/17/2015 12:38 PM, Philippe wrote:
During the course of one of our famous-the-world-over LUG-debates on
APS-C and FF ;-) I had promised to post comparison shots of fuji and
nikon files using the same settings.

I found time to rekindle my D700 today (16 months on the shelf, so
says LR) and shot 3 pairs of snaps at high ISO (1600 for I wanted
RAW, and it is the ISO limit of both bodies in RAW I think) and
equivalent focal length and aperture, respectively 35 & 50mm, both
open at 1.4.

These are indoors snaps, without any other purpose than comparison -
rain prevented me from taking the cameras for a stroll.
The fuji being small and resting on a table for two of the shots,
the angles may be slightly different.

The light didn't change outside 95% grey, nor inside.

The links below will lead the curious of either list to dng files,
conversion is the only alteration I have made to them.

You should be asked a "mot de passe" aka password, type: charlie
(the first file might have a capital C)

1st Pair
https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=qMDBdgufq6BRdADa6p7

https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=bEkQMoqnd4f5rRIcBZP

2nd
https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=yWV2vbE714whrsQdTcN

https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=p8qodHHwn1xAbA4FJ2B


3rd
https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=39AKF0uEw4123N0D50h

https://filex.univ-lorraine.fr/get?k=7gtbAMRKBQNxwEhU4I5

The files will remain available for download for 10 days.


Hope this helps all parties give enlightened opinions based on facts
;-).

Amities
Philippe


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