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Re: [OM] Boot failure advice?

Subject: Re: [OM] Boot failure advice?
From: Scott Gomez <sgomez.baja@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 07:28:14 -0700
I wouldn't want to either. But it looked liked there were other
suggestions, too.
 On Apr 14, 2015 05:26, "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Thanks for this too.  But I hope the simple solution works.  I'm not going
> anywhere near reflashing the BIOS on someone else's computer.  :-)
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 4/13/2015 8:22 PM, Scott Gomez wrote:
>
>> Also, here are a lot of comments on the same basic issue via Spiceworks. I
>> can personally vouch for Spiceworks being an OK site, I used it for years
>> at work.
>>
>> http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/456084-asus-x551ca-boot-issue
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Scott Gomez <sgomez.baja@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Quick Boot==Fast Boot
>>>
>>> F2 is normal BIOS configuration access. However, many Asus machines have
>>> boot selection using one of the three F-keys I mentioned (or if my memory
>>> is totally faulty today, which is entirely possible, yet a different
>>> F-key). Pressing the proper one brings up a brief text-menu that allows
>>> one
>>> to select which boot device to use for that particular boot-time.
>>>
>>> Also, this page at superuser.com has some clues that may provide
>>> additional help.
>>>
>>> http://superuser.com/questions/692821/how-to-boot-
>>> from-usb-on-asus-x551ca
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Chuck Norcutt <
>>> chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This ASUS X551CA machine wants F2 to access the BIOS.  Already been
>>>> there
>>>> and told it to use the Microsoft Boot Manager which allowed me to select
>>>> boot from USB... which it tried to do and failed.  Had I not done that
>>>> it
>>>> would have simply booted from the existing hard drive which works fine.
>>>>
>>>> I knew about F2 after downloading the user's manual from ASUS and
>>>> reading
>>>> the BIOS section.  But you mentioned "quick boot" which I think it what
>>>> this manual calls "Fast Boot" under Boot Configuration along with
>>>> another
>>>> choice called "Launch CSM".  Fast Boot is enabled by default and Launch
>>>> CSM
>>>> is disabled by default.  The BIOS portion of the user's manual shows
>>>> these
>>>> items as part of the BIOS configuration but never mentions or defines
>>>> them.  I've never heard of them and have no idea what they're supposed
>>>> to
>>>> do.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I should play a little more.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/13/2015 4:44 PM, Scott Gomez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  What the Moose sayeth. And also: My Asus desktop machine has a "boot
>>>>> selector" option that appears early in the boot process. I believe it's
>>>>> either by pressing F9, F11 or F12 that one can interrupt the boot
>>>>> process
>>>>> and then select an alternate boot location. If possible, get into the
>>>>> BIOS
>>>>> and deselect the option for quick boot, in order to see all boot
>>>>> messages
>>>>> appear on the screen, at which point you should see a choice for
>>>>> selective
>>>>> boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 4/13/2015 9:43 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Ummm, I hesitate to teach Dr DOS about eggs, but could it be the
>>>>>> BIOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> attention to permit booting from a USB device?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  And ... The BIOS on my desktop allows control of which devices are
>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>> for boot, and in which order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From: olympus
>>>>>>> [mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>> Sent: 13 April 2015 16:55
>>>>>>> To: Olympus mail list
>>>>>>> Subject: [OM] Boot failure advice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A friends computer wont boot.  ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea why the drive can be read from and written to by
>>>>>>> Reflect
>>>>>>> but the end product is not bootable.  I have some other cloning
>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>> where marking the drive as bootable or changing the drive ID on the
>>>>>>> clone are options.  But the free version of Reflect has no such
>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>> and, of course, works on my own computer just fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone got a suggestion as to where to look?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  As above, look to the BIOS. I have used Reflect Free on both
>>>>>> desktop and
>>>>>> laptop. But never attempted to boot from the clone via USB. If you
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> see where the problem lies, put the clone in the computer. If it
>>>>>> boots,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem in somewhere in USB, BIOS, computer implementation of USB,
>>>>>> cable,
>>>>>> USB implementation in the toaster/case. Basic problem isolation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> U Should Be able to figure it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Acronymic Moose
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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