iPhone woulda nailed it in seconds...
On 12 July 2015 at 18:55, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> I've always considered the color quite accurate but now I have some minor
> doubts. My wife wanted to go shopping for tile for the kitchen
> backsplash. She asked if I'd take a picture of the (predominantly) gray
> quartz counter top (but also speckled throughout with bits of white, black,
> tan, very pale yellow and browns). To her that meant I'd walk in, take a
> shapshot in the kitchen and 5 minutes later produce a print that you could
> lay on the counter and not be able to tell that it was there. Then she'd
> know if the backsplash tile was right for the countertop.
>
> I did indeed try something like that and disabused myself that it was a
> simple task in about 3 minutes. Daylight was streaming in from the left
> rear (patio sliding doors) and tungsten from above... ugly colors. I
> decided that I needed to use flash and simply overpower the tungsten.
> Overpowering the tungsten was easy. But the on-camera flash created a huge
> reflection from the glossy quartz. Time to get the flash off-camera... go
> find the Canon off-camera flash cord (which also works with Oly) and get a
> seemingly good color image. Wait. I want to lay this on the counter and
> not be able to see it. The pattern on the print needs to be exactly the
> same size as the real pattern. Back to the drawing board. Lay a ruler on
> the counter to measure off 7" to make a 5x7" print. Get out stepladder to
> get exactly the right distance for 7" to exactly fill the frame. Take test
> shot. Hey, it looks great on the screen. Now time to make a print. I've
> always assumed my HP printer with HP ink and HP paper makes good and fairly
> accurate color. Well, that ain't so... or is it? Seems I can't carry my
> 24" Dell flat screen into the kitchen to actually compare the colors.
> Adjust color, make print, adjust color, make print,.... etc. Some 13
> prints later I had one you could lay on the counter and you would have a
> hard time seeing it.
>
> Believe me, this was not a scientific process. Try it sometime.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 7/12/2015 11:37 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>
>> If it looks good, and the same, before and after calibrating with the old
>> technology, and people on the list aren't whispering about the wacky
>> colors
>> in your posted photos, then I'd say you're good to go.
>>
>> That said, I suspect the old CRT sensor won't work with flatscreens, so I
>> don't think you're getting a proper calibration. The only test would
>> require either spending money, or borrowing someone else's software and
>> hardware to see if current technology would make a difference.
>>
>> I confess to having gone overboard on color management in the past. I
>> suspect I went to a lot more pain than actually was necessary, but it made
>> me feel better to know I was adding extra steps to my workflow and taking
>> years off my life. <g> I also softproofed my images with icc profiles for
>> each paper I used, and downloaded the profiles from Miller's and Bay for
>> the stuff I set away to the lab. Did it make any difference? Damned if I
>> know. <g>
>>
>> --Bob Whitmire
>> Certified Neanderthal
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Chuck Norcutt <
>> chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Damn! I thought I was going to learn something profound about
>>> calibrating
>>> flat screens. Well, I guess I did but not what I thought.
>>>
>>> Now this is the real Reader's Digest version. I have an old X-Rite
>>> EZ-Color Suite bought in the land of CRTs. Then I bought my existing
>>> Dell
>>> 24" IPS flat panel screen. Colors looked great out of the box. I
>>> applied
>>> the EZ-Color puck and software and somewhere recall
>>> reading/hearing/seeing
>>> that this CRT thingy might not work so many wonders on the flat panel.
>>> It
>>> did allow me to go through the process but I don't know that anything
>>> ever
>>> actually changed. The color looked good going in and looked good coming
>>> out. So, I have not a clue whether the ancient CRT era thingy works at
>>> all
>>> or does anything of value. The color still looks pretty good to my eye
>>> and
>>> I haven't been inspired to do anything else. What do you think?
>>>
>>> --
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