+1 to his mooseness.
And thanks for saving me a bunch of typing, Moose, as I was about to
respond in like fashion.
On Sep 9, 2015 11:38 AM, "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 9/9/2015 9:18 AM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>
>> Ken, I had the same thoughts. There seems to be a real lack of personal
>> responsibility these days, and I'm afraid it is being passed on to another
>> generation.
>>
>
> OK, I gotta break out of our Brooklyn idyll to ask a question.
>
> Do most of you lovely folks really believe that the overall intelligence
> and common sense of USian young people is declining? Of the West in general?
>
> Jim, is this true of your kids, grandkids and greatgrandkids? Or only of
> others that you don't know but hear about?
>
> Might many of us be looking with the perspective of age, conveniently
> forgetting certain aspects of our own youths?
>
> Might the dramatic change in media/information resources more dramatically
> and often show the results of regular old stupidity and the age old foolish
> risk taking of young men that we would not have known of in past decades?
>
> Hanging around in the Windsor Terrace area of Brooklyn, walking a lot,
> sitting outside at a restaurant, etc. I've been impressed at the number of
> young people on the streets with kids, how busy the local playground is,
> etc. Lots of pregnant women, many pushing strollers. I don't know how old
> they are, but everybody looks happy, healthy, well fed and clothed, etc.
> Traveling up through Harlem and back, the kids changed average color and
> language, but nonetheless appeared well and well looked after.
>
> Whether our country should be reproducing at the rate we are, I don't
> know, nor what to do about it if the answer were 'no'.
>
> On 9/9/2015 11:13 AM, Ken Norton wrote:
>>
>>> This story is so wrong on many levels. We talk about gun laws, but
>>> what about laws that should prevent such a young person from already
>>> being a father to two children.
>>>
>>
> So, you might like to go back to the idea of Eugenics?
>
> I guess that I'm off the rails on this one, but nobody should be
>>> allowed to marry or have children until they are 25.
>>>
>>
> I married at just barely 22. Should someone else have decided whether I
> could or couldn't? Had my first child at 27. Whew, dodged the bullet there.
>
> And even then,
>>> you should have to pass a means and intelligence test.
>>>
>>
> Well, that should certainly put the cap on the Decline of the West, as
> no-one else will do it. Did you know, and perhaps decline to recall the
> European countries that have put major incentives in place to keep the
> birth rate at or above replacement?
>
> As with Eugenics, who gets to set the standards?
>
> Might we then want to set standards to be enforced as to other aspects of
> behavior?
>
> You are off the rails and started down a slippery slope.
>
> I can see where having girls the age of yours, and one suddenly off out of
> sight and control might scare the hell out of you, but generalization of an
> imagined solution to your fears isn't valid.
>
> Moose D'Opinion
>
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