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Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Weather Concerns
From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:02:10 -0600
I've known some Canadians, and I found them all to be kind, generous fun loving people with a prodigious ability to hold alcohol that I envied. As a country, however, I wish they would keep their artic air to themselves.

-----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 6:40 PM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Weather Concerns

In the case of Churchill it's a bit more complicated than you've stated
it because the definition of "natural born citizen" was different prior
to 1934.  The (sexist) answer is here:
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Prior to 1934, U.S. citizen mothers could not transmit U.S. citizenship
to children born abroad; only U.S. citizen fathers could do that. In
1994, Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Technical
Corrections Act, which added INA 301(h) (8 USC 1401(h)) which granted
citizenship to people born abroad to a U.S. citizen mother before 1934:

    The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States
at birth:
    [...]
    (h)        a person born before noon (Eastern Standard  Time) May
24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United  States of
an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United  States who,
prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United  States.

This section was specified to apply retroactively to the date of the
person's birth.

From what I can tell, Winston Churchill was not a (non-honorary) U.S.
citizen according to the law at the time of his life, but is considered
to have been a U.S. citizen from birth according to current law.
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Taken from: <https://www.quora.com/Was-Winston-Churchill-American>

Chuck Norcutt



On 2/22/2016 4:04 PM, John Hudson wrote:

What's wrong with Canadians :-)

Mr Cruz claimed US citizenship as a "natural born" American, born to a
mother who was a US citizen but who resident outside the USA at the time
of birth.

Winston Churchill's mother was Lady Randolph Churchill, the former
Jeanette Jerome who was born in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn, New York in 1854.
Mother was obviously a US citizen. Churchill was born in the UK.

In 1963 President Kennedy awarded Winston Churchill honorary US
citizenship.

Based on Mr Cruz's "natural born" citizenship status, Churchill would
also have been a "natural born" US citizen rendering the granting of
honorary citizenship in 1963 as nothing more than showmanship as he was
a US citizen from birth.

In the alternative, Churchill was never a "natural born" US citizen and
perhaps Mr Cruz is likewise !

jh






On 2/22/2016 12:37 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
Donald Trump might get my vote If he promised to build a wall between
us and
Canada, that would keep the artic air up where it belongs.

Too late to keep Ted Cruz out.

AG (feel the) Schnozz

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