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Subject: Re: [OM] Solar Roofs - of course to power Olympus cameras - duh
From: Charles Geilfuss <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:49:03 -0500
Around here, a good quality architectural grade asphalt shingle will last
about 20-25 years (my current roof is 16 and still looks brand new), which
is a fair trade off in the savings on structural members in the roof (2x6,
24" on center). The main upgrade here is a metal roof which costs about
double but will last considerably longer. The great equalizer is
hurricanes. We get a really bad one on average 20-25 years and no roofing
material is immune. Plenty of old houses downtown with slate shingles had
major damage. Owners had to go back to the original English quarry for
replacement (Hysterical Society requirement) to the tune of $75000 and up.

Charlie

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 3/8/2016 9:52 AM, ChrisB wrote:
>
>> That sounds very exciting, Ken.
>>
>> I’m surprised that your roof covering needs replacing.  Over Here the
>> roof tiles that we use last for a loooong time.  Our slate roof is probable
>> as old as the house, or could be (1750s).  Our Annex has concrete tiles
>> which are made to look like small clays and I expect them to last a hundred
>> years or two.
>>
>
> The vast majority of home construction in the US is focused on minimum
> cost. Some of it may look fancy, but underneath, even most of that is CHEAP.
>
> Asphalt shingle is inexpensive to buy and to install. It's also light, so
> the roof structure can be light and cheap, too. And it doesn't require much
> pitch, again requiring fewer materials. It lasts somewhere over a decade;
> most importantly lasting longer than any home warranty. You can be sure
> that the weight/grade for new construction is carefully chosen with that in
> mind.
>
> Then the light roof structure tends to dictate what replacement can be
> done when it wears out. My roof is supported by 2x4s on 24" centers. When
> it needed replacement, I found that none of the cement, tile or slate
> alternatives could be used without expensive reinforcement of the roof. I
> ended up with a metal roof that looks vaguely like shake, is very light and
> lasts many years. It's proven so far to be an excellent choice.
>
> My crazy neighbor was on a mission to make his house a showplace. He spent
> endless hours and $ on it, including major reinforcement of the roof so he
> could cover it with slate.
>
> Cedar shake used to be a popular roofing material, at least out here in
> the real west. It could last several decades. But now most of the old roofs
> have finally succumbed to age and the elements. Newer shake roofs don't
> last nearly as long. All the old growth cedars are either gone or
> protected, and wood from smaller, younger ones doesn't last.
>
> ...
>>
>> I’m disappointed that you can’t go with integrated PV, but perhaps it
>> means that you could have new panels now which would be replace in 30
>> years’ time with more modern and more efficient panels.
>>
>
> That seems to me to be a critical factor. If BiPV efficiency deteriorates
> with age, replacement could be horrendously expensive. Replacement of
> separate panels is pretty simple.
>
> Electric Moose
>
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