This helps!
https://support.google.com/nikcollection/answer/3298040?hl=en
Tina
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Glad you could make it work for you. There is very little hint as to how
> the proper choices should be made. :-(
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
>
> On 7/16/2016 5:09 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>
>> Jim discovered a setting in Color Efex Pro called Remove Color Cast that
>> does a fantastic job! Thanks, Jim!!
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, that looks better.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Chuck Norcutt <
>>> chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Tina, I don't like Moose's corrections (maybe a first?).
>>>>
>>>> I have a much different view of the image. I don't think there's much
>>>> of
>>>> a color correction problem... it is, after all, taken inside a darkened
>>>> red
>>>> tent. But the camera captures more of the real color that our eyes/brain
>>>> manage to soften.
>>>>
>>>> I think the real problem is the young man seated in front of the open
>>>> doorway which is about 4 stops brighter than the interior. I can't do
>>>> Moose's overlays but I have included a link that shows Tina's original
>>>> photo and one with my corrections that include: Slightly reduced red
>>>> saturation to the whole image, slightly brightening the young man above
>>>> his
>>>> knee, dehazing that part of him, a slight sharpening of his face and
>>>> then
>>>> more dehazing on his hair.
>>>>
>>>> original <http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=20430>
>>>> my fixes <http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=20432>
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/15/2016 7:45 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Moose. I get what you are saying. Color does not move me the
>>>>> way
>>>>> B&W does and I'm sure that's obvious in my photos. I started out with
>>>>> B&W
>>>>> film and Kodachrome. I actually have a WhiBal which I use when I
>>>>> remember
>>>>> it. Otherwise, I try to find something in the frame that is supposed
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> black or grey. That works a lot of the time. Circumstances like the
>>>>> red
>>>>> tent which casts a red light onto the black that I'm trying to use to
>>>>> balance are not always an easy fix. I don't want to neutralize the
>>>>> light
>>>>> that is influencing their lives. Sometimes I think I should just leave
>>>>> it
>>>>> as is. I usually like your corrections much better than anything I can
>>>>> do,
>>>>> but this time I don't. The faces are too orange - almost neon-like.
>>>>> Thanks for trying, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/2016 10:00 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PESO:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We were invited to lunch with a Qashqai family in the desert near
>>>>>>> Shiraz.
>>>>>>> This is the inside of their tent:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/163678790
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took lots of photos in this terrible, awful light. The people are
>>>>>>> beautiful but you'd never know it in this light! I'll be working on
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> today and tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not difficult to correct, but probably requires PS skills you
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> have and don't particularly want to learn. <
>>>>>> http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Manley/Marshla_and_Ehsan.htm
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Separate layers for her face and skin, his face, their clothing and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> rest. All adjusted separately. Background by trying the color sampler
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> various neutralish looking things. Skin tones cribbed from the image
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Azar, then adjusted differently for each. Clothing using PS Auto Color
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> adjusting Opacity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably not "right"; I wasn't there, but plausible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions would be gratefully attempted!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or maybe not. I've suggested before the use of a neutral reference in
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> unusual light. You haven't attempted it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A shot or two of one in this light, perhaps while waiting for the
>>>>>> girls
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get gussied up, and this would all be a doodle, correct the whole
>>>>>> series at
>>>>>> once, with more accurate color than anything done in post without a
>>>>>> reference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Consider Steve McCurry. I was gifted with his book Portraits. There's
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> good stuff in there, but not a patch on what you do. His are stiff,
>>>>>> cool,
>>>>>> and often staged looking- repetitive, too, after too many of them.
>>>>>> Yours
>>>>>> are natural, warm and engaging, human, where his are mostly not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But look at his colors! I don't know what he is using; there are
>>>>>> endless
>>>>>> tools, from simple to complex, but he's making the colors work for him
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> his subjects, not against them. He's probably thinking about light and
>>>>>> color long before he takes a single shot. I don't know if it's because
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> started out as a B&W photographer, and still sort of think of color
>>>>>> as a
>>>>>> not so nice accessory, but you don't appear to really think about it
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> shooting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are happy to spend many thousands of $ on gear, much more on
>>>>>> travel
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find subjects, and schlep around a lot of gear. Then you skip a simple
>>>>>> step
>>>>>> and end up with color problems. You can buy a neutral reference the
>>>>>> size of
>>>>>> a credit card for a couple of $ and carry it with you with no effort
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> all. Is that as fancy, as effective as the more powerful, multicolor
>>>>>> references? Nah, but it would work miracles for your work. The 90%
>>>>>> solution
>>>>>> is a lot better than 0%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not all of us see the same way, both physiologically and mentally. If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> just don't notice color in the excitement of shooting, you could just
>>>>>> force
>>>>>> yourself to shoot a reference in each different place you go into with
>>>>>> camera. Soon, it would become a habit, and no effort at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I happen to use a WhiBal, which is always in my wallet. If you don't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> that, there are plenty of other sorts of reference cards, opal glass
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> "filters" that go over a lens for WB reference, light meters that read
>>>>>> color, and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where it's allowed, I shoot lots of pics in museums. It is for me a
>>>>>> wonderful way to supplement my memory. But museum lighting is far from
>>>>>> neutral, usually quite warm. So I shoot the WhiBal in each area with
>>>>>> different light, and my pics show the true colors of the art.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colorfully Balanced Moose
>>>>>>
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