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Subject: Re: [OM] E-M1 II [was] IMG: Giving Respect to the Oly E-1]
From: Frank <wijsmuller@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 18:18:02 +0200
I understand, I have an A7 'dedicated' for legacy glass. I'd like the IBIS
of the II but I'll wait for the III since I want a silent shutter (like the
E-M1 has, lovely ;-).

However, I don't think Olympus' pricing strategy is or should be targeted
to the 'only to adapt legacy glass' crowd... ;-)

2016-09-02 17:52 GMT+02:00 Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> But if I actually bought the Sony (probably unlikely) I wouldn't buy more
> than one lens... whatever I thought the E-M1 couldn't do as well...
> whatever that might be.  Unlike my Canon 5D the E-M1 is amazingly easy to
> use with MF lenses.  I would expect the Sony to be similar in that respect.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 9/2/2016 11:23 AM, Frank wrote:
>
>> I was merely stating these camera's because they are a) much money and b)
>> actually more expensive then the models they replace. That is worrying, as
>> were are talking about computer technology which should follow Moore's law
>> ;-)  (OK I know that this law is not what it used to be, but still...).
>>
>> Actually I don't think that a E-M1 II of >$1500 competes with a Sony A7
>> II.
>> When lens costs are figured in, the overall system costs significantly
>> more
>> with Sony.
>>
>> They'll closely watch Fuji I presume, and the APS-C top tier camera's. The
>> new Fuji's are not very cheap as well. Seen the D500 price?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-02 16:17 GMT+02:00 Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> I don't think so.  I think the Sony a7S II and a7R II are in a different
>>> league selling for close to $3,000.  What the E-M1 has to compete with is
>>> the a7 II which sells for $1,700.
>>> <https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1102008-REG/sony_ilc
>>> e7m2_b_a7ii_mirrorless_digital_camera.html>
>>>
>>> If Oly tries to charge $1,500 for the E-M1 II I can see even myself
>>> balking and maybe adding $200 to get the full frame 24 MP sensor.  I'd
>>> probably also want at least one native AF lens but I can see doing most
>>> of
>>> my photography with adapted OM lenses which I have in plentiful supply.
>>>
>>> But I'll have to see just exactly what the E-M1 II has to offer before
>>> jumping one way or another.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/2/2016 5:50 AM, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, I expect >$1500 for the E-M1 Mk2. The market is shrinking and
>>>> the
>>>> response of the big brands seems to be more expensive camera's. Sony
>>>> leading the pack with the A7R II and Canon's new 5D Mk 4 is quite
>>>> expensive
>>>> too. I fear Olympus is not immune to the loudly lunatics who wants
>>>> bigger
>>>> camera's without the option to go smaller as well. We'll see.
>>>>
>>>> For me, I acquired a nice 43 lens (quite a Fang ;-) and decided I didn't
>>>> like the focussing on the E-M5. So I got a little used E-M1 for ~$500
>>>> and
>>>> I'm happy ;-). It is smaller then I thought, feeling not really much
>>>> bigger
>>>> then an E-M5 with the HLD-6 grip part. Not that it is that relevant with
>>>> 43
>>>> lenses...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-09-01 21:55 GMT+02:00 Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/1/2016 12:46 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It must be getting close.  B&H sent me an offer this morning for $300
>>>>> off
>>>>>
>>>>>> the E-M1 (Mk 1).  I'll be in line to get one when it arrives...
>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>> the price is similar to the original Mk 1 price ($1,199.99)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will probably be torn. I'd like the latest features, but don't like
>>>>> the
>>>>> size and shape I'm expecting, compared to the svelte E-M5 II.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm more excited about the 12-100/4 Pro, but afraid it will be too big
>>>>> and
>>>>> heavy. I'm already carrying around the Panny 100-400. Add another big
>>>>> bertha, and I'll either become like Edward Weston about distance from
>>>>> the
>>>>> car, or start looking like a navvy.
>>>>>
>>>>> No Porter Moose
>>>>>
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