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Re: [OM] olympus Digest, Vol 104, Issue 27

Subject: Re: [OM] olympus Digest, Vol 104, Issue 27
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:45:27 -0700
On 6/27/2017 6:35 PM, Jan Steinman wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 at 16:12, Tina Manley <tmanley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm scanning some slides from 2000 made on Fuji RMS which is a slide film
that is made to be pushed.  It's giving me fits to try and scan.
Tina, have you considered a slide copier on a digicam?

 From what I’ve read, the results should be similar to a scan, in some cases 
exceeding it.

I’ve tried just a few, using a Nikon bellows, adapted to micro four thirds on one end, 
and Olympus OM on the other, using an Olympus OM 80/4 macro lens and the Nikon slide copier, 
and am very happy with the result. I’m using a FL-50 flash and manual colour balance.

I tried and rejected this solution years ago. Using a 5D, 80/4 auto, bellows and slide copier, my results were pretty good, as good as my Canon FS4000US film scanner with old film, lenses. I imagine it would be fully as good now, maybe even better, with 80/4 auto and A7 or E-M5 II in HR mode and 60/2.8 Macro lens.

But it's not about that, it's about madness and work flow. Madness is spotting images that wouldn't need it if scanned on a scanner with IR channel and proper software. Work flow is changing the frame and making a manual exposure for every "scan". My little scanner will automagically scan a 'stick' of six exposures or four mounted slides unattended. My flatbed will do up to 30 with six frame 'sticks' or a dozen slides at once, but at a bit lower quality, still with IR channel.

Silver based B&W film is still a problem, as IR cleaning doesn't work. Fortunately, I personally have little of that. Kodachrome was a problem, but at least VueScan and Silverfast have made software improvements that do a god job of cleaning up KR.

CH found the camera approach fine for digitizing his collection of slides. With flash from below and a stage with stops to position the slides without fuss, he could go through a lot of slides quickly. The scanner is much slower, but runs unattended.

The killer for me was spotting. I simply will not do it on film that can be scanned and cleaned automatically. I suppose there may be people for whom it can be a form of meditation. I spend at least enough time post processing images as it is.

Now imagine Tina, who has scanned many thousands of images, and has who knows how many still to do. Unlike me, and I imagine, you, she posts many/most of them for stock sales. She doesn't just focus on the few best shots. With Nikon scanner with automatic slide feeder and film strip feeders, thousands of frames can be scanned while leading a life.

CH used the camera approach in part because of the flare problem with his Nikon scanners. If that's what Tina has run into recently, her sample shows it's gotten very bad on her scanner. The only solution is an expensive and/or difficult cleaning of the internal mirror (or a back-up). The other problems with Nikon scanners are relatively shallow DoF and a fairly coherent light source that emphasizes scratches, etc. I chose a Canon scanner for the more forgiving light source and greater DoF.

No Spotting Moose

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