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From: ChrisB <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 07:02:25 +0100
Fascinating, but you meant your aunt's grandmother, I assume, Moose. Otherwise 
that part's a little confusing. 

Chris

C M I Barker | Gamlingay


> On 12 Aug 2019, at 06:42, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/7/2019 5:42 AM, ChrisB wrote:
>> Sounds like you've hedged your bets, Moose ;-)
> 
> The whole thread of ancestry than Lauren worked up seems possibly too good to 
> be true. Boudica is not the first, but the last, interesting character in it.
> 
> Most of us assume "Cleopatra" is the name of only one important historical 
> figure. Going back, it all starts with a fellow named Ptolemy, a boyhood 
> friend, and possible cousin, of Alexander in Macedonia. He became one of 
> Alexander's top generals.
> 
> When Alexander died, his generals got together to decide what to do. They 
> decided what he had conquered didn't make a governable empire, and split it 
> up among themselves. Ptolemy got Egypt. When he arrived, combining his share 
> of the army of conquest with the standing army left to secure Egypt, he 
> appointed himself Pharaoh. I imagine him standing in front of a great temple, 
> surrounded by his army, and announcing "I am now Pharaoh! Any objections?"
> 
> He established a 300 year dynasty that was obsessed with maintaining their 
> blood line. The eldest daughter of a Pharaoh was married to her father. When 
> he died, his eldest son took the name/title Ptolemy, his eldest daughter 
> married this brother and took the name/title Cleopatra.
> 
> Near the end of the dynasty, one of the Pharaoh's daughters was named Selene. 
> Events in the family and country during her life involved splits and some 
> civil war. At one point, she was in charge, and thus became Cleopatra. 
> Historians, to avoid confusion with her niece, the Cleo we know of, called 
> her Cleopatra Selene.
> 
> Anyway, Lauren's research found a line back to her, my 80-somethingh aunt. 
> Her granddaughter was born in Alexandria, married a Maccabee, and lived and 
> died in Jerusalem. Her granddaughter (or perhaps GGD, I forget.) is born ins 
> Jerusalem and dies in Ely, England. Her daughter, or GD, leads the revolt 
> against Rome.
> 
> There are no details about the line from Ptolemy for 300 years. Given their 
> reproductive practices (Cleo was no beauty!), is seems that, if all the 
> subsequent links are good, I am a direct descendant of Ptolemy the Savior. 
> That takes it back to 367 BCE, with a few more years before that, as his 
> mother is known, and his father conjectured.
> 
> After all that, the miracle is that everyone in the line of decent is minor 
> nobility or at least a land owner, so their details are recorded, down 
> through my father's mother. Who knew Maud, that nice old lady, was carrying 
> such a load of history? ;-)
> 
> Moose's Believe it or Not
> 
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