100% agreed.
And I don’t know that the default profile is bad but it just felt more
right to make a profile for _my_ scanner (the same as I might for _my_
printer).
In the meantime I found the problem - unclear instructions- and I now have
a profile that I can use for scanning ... prints.
Thanks
Jez
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 19:26, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2/10/2020 10:22 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
> > I can't help on the specifics, Jez (I might if I could find my own IT-8
> > slide from Wolf Faust!) but I have to question the proposition that a
> > profile from the reflective scanner will be usable with the transmissive
> > scanner - different light sources, no?
>
> Indeed so.
>
> With a contemporary film, it's straightforward. Shoot the printed target
> in midday light, and calibrate from the
> processed film. Yes, its a combination profile of film and scanner, but
> that doesn't matter, as long as you use the same
> scanner.
>
> I did that for the color neg films I was shooting before digital, and the
> results were dramatic, saving lots of post
> processing effort, with better results <
> http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/tech/Scan/VuesProf/>.
>
> One may, of course, do the same thing with contemporary slide films. The
> "Problem" for some is that this way, the
> differences between films are "corrected", so your Velveeta would look
> like your Kodachrome.
>
> To profile the scanner itself, so that differences in films are retained
> in the scans, is a trickier business. You need
> a piece of film with an IT8 profile on it, and the associated data file
> detailing the differences between the film and
> ideal. With a scanner profile made from that, your Velveeta will scan as
> some weird, cheesy, violet tinted thing, like
> the originals.
>
> Both Wolf Faust and SilverFast used to sell IT8 slides on Kodachrome. I
> know the SilverFast ones are long ago sold out.
> I don't know what Wolf is doing about that these days. Like Piers, I have
> one of his KRs somewhere around here. KR was
> the best film for that, with it's high color stability.
>
> OTOH, do you actually know that the default scanner profile that comes
> with VueScan is bad? Or only that it might be?
>
> My desire was the opposite. I wished to scan my KR, EK, Agfa and Fuji
> slides from the past so that they all had the
> same, relatively "correct", colors. Can't be done.
>
> (BTW, apropos WB, I saw a bit of “Expedition With Steve Backshall”, about
> underwater caves in Yucatan, a couple of days
> ago. I noticed the same WhiBal card that I use dangling from the fancy,
> complex, underwater camera gear.)
>
> Whitey B. Moose
>
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