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Re: [OM] IMGS: Drying Fish

Subject: Re: [OM] IMGS: Drying Fish
From: Tina Manley <images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:55:19 -0400 (EDT)
I usually agree with you, Moose.  This time I don't.  Maybe it's the effect of 
the quarantine and I am feeling ornery.  I much prefer the B&W and the 
composition, too.

I'll keep editing and posting since I can't do anything else these days!!

Wash your hands,

Tina

----- Original Message -----
From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:01:16 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] IMGS: Drying Fish

On 3/12/2020 11:54 AM, Tina Manley wrote:
> PESO:
>
> This is probably a good illustration of how I think differently when
> photographing color and B&W:
>
> More concerned with the light and faces:
>
> https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/170511656
>
> More concerned with the color and patterns
>
> https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/170511657

Intellectually, I "get" what you are saying, but not visually. My problem.

Yet, the comparison isn't "fair". I don't know how much is inherent in the 
originals and how much is processing, but 
there are some big differences in contrast/tonality. 
<http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Manley/B&W08427-Color08447.htm>

The contrast of the B&W shot is much higher than that of the color shot. I've 
shown reduced contrast, as well as, as 
close as I can come, the contrast level of the color shot, which is really blah 
in B&W.

The color shot is low contrast, but high saturation. I've shown how much more 
natural, to my eye, lower saturation is. 
I've then done a straight desaturation and a PS default B&W conversion, both 
low contrast, but pleasant. Finally, the 
tone curve of the B&W shot applied to the color conversion to B&W, which has 
nice, dramatic "pop".

I realize your processing is aimed at sales. Of course, but it makes for an 
unfair comparison of monochrome vs. color.

> I think I prefer the B&W in this case but sometimes not.

Might that be, at least in part, because the composition of the color one is 
much better?

The background on the left of the B&W shot is way too busy, distracting my eye, 
esp. from the kid on that side. The 
color one replaces that with both a less busy background and a longer row of 
fish as foreground, concentrating attention 
on the subject(s) and tying in beautifully as line with the reaching movement 
of the kind on the left.

Discerning Eye Moose

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