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From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 07:57:29 +0200
Thanks dear Moose

the original question was "why use a RING flash on a 100-400 eq."

And after reading everyone’s answers I still can’t see its justification.

It was just curiosity for I no longer have that lens, and have never had a ring 
flash. 

Sorry for bothering you all with this. We might simply forget :-)

Amities

Philippe



> Le 14 avr. 2020 à 07:25, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> 
> On 4/13/2020 1:35 PM, Philippe wrote:
>> Thanks I had one such - but my original question remains, sorry.
>> 
>> Well, I might as well also die ignorant :-)
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 13 avr. 2020 à 21:03, Jan Steinman <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> 
>>>> FL eq 100-400 - do you really shoot macro with that FL?
>>> One of the great things about that lens is a minimum focus of 1.2 metres. I 
>>> don't know what reproduction ratio that yields, but it does give you 
>>> near-macro capability.
> 
> Brief answer for me. Yes, I do shoot macro, with even longer FLs.
> 
> Less brief raises a question, and any answer requires some definitions:
> 
> Question: What do you mean by Macro?
> 
> 1. Many zooms of the 35 mm film era proudly wore the label "Macro" with mag. 
> of 0.25x, or repro ratio of 1:4. A lot of purists felt macro started at 1:2, 
> 0.5x.
> 
> 2. The lens that started this has a mag. of 0.21x. That sounds pretty low. 
> But, it's for a 4/3" sensor. If I print equal size FF and 4/3 sensor shots of 
> the same subject, filling the height of the film/sensor with it, the apparent 
> magnification is the same, but the images on film/sensor are of much 
> different sizes, FF ~ twice 4/3".
> 
> Thus, in a practical way, 0.21x on 4/3 is equivalent to 0.42x on FF and 
> qualifies as macro by some definitions.
> 
> I often shoot with a 400 mm lens and achromatic C-U lens. At closest focus, 
> it covers a subject area of 40x30 mm, which is FF the eq. of 0.86x, or 
> 1:1.16. As this magnification is considerably greater than that of the OM 50 
> mm macro lenses, it is certainly macro.
> 
> As to why I do so,perhaps this photo is a good answer. 
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/BgxKymwHzWXRiKQ68>
> 
> Cropped horizontally, but not vertically. I take quite a lot of photos of 
> modest to tiny creatures that would flee if approached at the working 
> distance of conventional FL macro lenses.
> 
> Or perhaps this shot? <http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=20427>
> 
> For tiny, un-moving things, I go conventional, Oly Macrophoto Stand VST-1 and 
> either OM 20/2 and 38/2.8 on FF A7 or Oly 60/2.8 macro on E-M5 II, in 60 
> MP-ish HR Mode.
> 
> Long and Short of It Moose
> 
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