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Re: [OM] New additions to the Living History Farm

Subject: Re: [OM] New additions to the Living History Farm
From: "Pearce, Wilfred via olympus" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 18:12:03 +0000
Cc: "Pearce, Wilfred" <pearce@xxxxxxxx>
I enjoyed reading the article, as it touched a point close to my heart. I think 
that with exceptions, the internet has been a millstone about the neck of 
photography, allowing everyone with a room temperature IQ to flood us with 
stupidity. A big example is the quest for ultimate sharpness in  a photo, 
delivered by the latest greatest lens. I have gotten sick of reading posts 
about what is the sharpest lens for my latest camera of the month. No one that 
makes these posts is able to recognise that, at the very least, when you get 
the latest sharpest lens, it will be replaced in a few months by something 
newer and sharper, and anyway, how does a sharp lens make photos better? Did 
Cartier-Bresson always aim for ultimate sharpness?


Photography has been taken over by a crowd of technicians who lack any vision.

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At 9/4/2020 02:19 PM, Mike wrote:
>The AF on Pany bodies undoubtedly slow as molasses.
>
><<That is my opinion too. It's easily the sharpest, and most insanely
><<dimensional lens I've ever used. This lens has Lightroom's
><<Texture/Clarity/DeHaze sliders already built-in.
>
>Sounds like high microcontrast characteristic of many Zeiss lenses.  Many use 
>the C/Y 35-70 f3.4 manual lens on Sonnie for the high microcontrast and "3D 
>rendering."
>
>The microcontrast can be mimicked in post but the "3D rendering" seems next to 
>impossible at least for me.   Something to do with the transition zone/bokeh  
>rendering it seems.
>Using the C/Y zoom one can not any LCE in post or it looks overcooked. I can 
>tell on the smidgy cam LCD that the lens was used.  Mine developed some play 
>in the barrel and not one shop wanted to service it in the US.
>They said they were used and abused by pros and then sold and they are a bear 
>to disassemble.  I sent it to the Netherlands on advice from FM people who one 
>it.  On my best adapter though it is a wee smidge off infinity focus 
>now--drat.  Seems I need a shorter adapter now.
>
>
><<You end up with a 3D subject that has a distinct separation from what is
><<behind
>
>Would like to see the same image(s) as take by the 14-35/2, PL 12-60 and Oly  
>MZ 12-100/4 with a suitable image requiring 3D rendering.  Suspect that is an 
>impossible search.  The 12-100 despite the long FL often does not excel at 
>subject/background separation and that is a bear for me to try and fix in 
>post.   Oh the PL 12-60 has highest mag at long end and the macro 
>ability/rendering is quite nice.  Am not sure can be smitten by an AF lens not 
>made for mirrorless.  The 14-35/2 also is not very good for quick macro.  For 
>some applications on FT and not MFT, one can see how it is attractive.
>
>3D rendering fan, Mike

I have had images with the 3D-pop look and part of it seemed more the OOF 
transitions. So in my ignorance of Micro-contrast, I researched a bit.

I too would like to see some examples. There is some various opinions on 
whether micro-contrast can be measured. Also the camera sensor must have 
something to do with it? In my search I found this interesting article (note it 
is a bit satirical):

https://photographylife.com/the-death-of-beautiful-rendition-and-3d-pop-on-modern-lenses

In the article he gives an example of the Nikon 24-120 f/4 and 85/1.4. At first 
I thought my eyes were defective, so make sure you read the last paragraph.

Moose, you may recognize the cat in his article - same as your "Tuesday Cat" 
posted a while back (3/10/2020).

Anyone have some 3D-pop examples? Or other lenses to wax philosophical about?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/amK2PhUuMomNuLUX8
110mm stack.

WayneS


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