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Re: [OM] Three & Dee & Tree [was New additions to the Living History Far

Subject: Re: [OM] Three & Dee & Tree [was New additions to the Living History Farm & Seeing the Tree for the Forest]
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 14:17:33 -0700
On 9/30/2020 8:13 AM, Wayne Shumaker wrote:
At 9/29/2020 09:48 PM, Moose wrote:

I don't THINK this is what Mike is referring to. He refers to a difference that 
is immediately visible on the camera LCD; something microcontrast-ish, 
accutance-ish, shape of edge contrast transition-ish.

In fact, the discussions of 3D on FMiranda seem to freely mix photos that are 
wonderful examples of background blurring/bokeh with those that may have the 
arcane magic to which Mike refers, and especially those taken with that paragon 
of 3D, the C/Y 35-70.

So Mike, got a couple of ideal specs for getting the effect, subject, FL, focal 
distance, background distance, aperture, and ???
...Micro-contrast and near focal plane OOF characteristics. You're not 3D blind.

So background separation from the subject is not the lens 3D-pop being referred 
to.
This sample photo from a canyon 180mm macro has 3D-ness but not the pop.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bbXUuMLxCkv2tns17
Longer focal length lenses would then be more likely to create 3Dness.

As to "visible on the camera LCD" I question that.

Just quoting Mike:

On 9/6/2020 7:46 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
My impression of microcontrast as it applies to the Zeiss C/Y 35-70 is contrast 
in the 20-30 pixel radius range     (at least when I played around with images 
on the 5DII) It is not a subtle phenomenon
As I said one can spot that the lens was used on the little LCD on the back of 
the cam.  (An aside--should LCE radius be changed in PS for very high 
megapickel cams?)  3D pop is very subjective but you know it when you see it.

On 9/13/2020 12:22 PM, Mike Gordon via olympus wrote:
The other lenses used with the same in cam processing don't measure up in the 
microcontrast category.

Magic Lens Hunter - WayneS

Moi Aussi* Moose

* But not Antipodean

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