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Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Macro Experiment with Leica-R 60 Elmarit Macro Lens
From: Frank <wijsmuller@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:50:07 +0200
Interesting indeed.

For myself, a good reason to prefer too many pictures over too few, is that
I more or less often get surprised by pictures I wouldn't consider keepers
at the time of shooting, but do end up as keepers after culling and post
processing. I like the serendipity of that ;-)


*Frank*


Op do 15 okt. 2020 om 22:49 schreef Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Since I originated this thread a week ago, I guess I should respond.
> It's been interesting reading all of the comments.
>
> Ken, I don't have your wide choice of scenery, but I do subscribe to
> your approach.  My lowly insect subjects are subject to the same types
> of problems that you quote, i.e., movement, missed focus, poor framing,
> etc., etc.  I frequently shoot 20 or 30 frames in order to get a couple
> of keepers, and I'm out for less than half an hour.  I can imagine what
> you must shoot in a six hour hike.  Since mega-pickles are very
> inexpensive, I see nothing wrong with making the final choice and
> composition at the computer, where the view of the image is much, much
> better.  YMMV.
>
> On 10/15/20 3:28 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
> > Gatling Gun Wayne wrote:
> >> What I like most about the stacking method is ability to use wider
> F-stop, rendering the background bokeh better. F11 bokeh is hit or miss,
> hence best used when including the distance, as in Mike's great shot. Ahh
> digital, the ability to easily take 36 shots and stack them.
> > We could take 36 shots in the film era, but then each resulting
> > picture had a film/processing cost of about $30 USD.
> >
> > Because of that, I was EXTREMELY efficient with my photography and got
> > to the point where my "pre editing" was detrimental to getting the
> > shot I actually wanted. It was certainly a case of "perfect is the
> > enemy of the good."
> >
> > These days, I'm absolutely insane with my shooting and will frequently
> > fill up card after card in order to get the shot I really want. I
> > criticize myself for being, ahem, sloppy, but the reality is that I am
> > familiar with the various failure rates of my photography, so
> > overshooting is an important part of the equation in order to make
> > sure I get the shot. Sometimes the focus is off, sometimes the framing
> > is off, sometimes there is motion blur when the image-stabilization
> > decides to go ADHD right in the middle of a shot. The majority of my
> > issues relate to one specific issue, though: viewfinders! With the old
> > OM system, I could get exactly what I wanted (especially with the 1-4
> > screen) and critical focus was not only relatively easy to achieve,
> > but the bokeh traits of the screen encouraged a different artistic
> > interpretation. Most of my cameras (including the Sony) have
> > viewfinders that at best can be described as framing tools. There is
> > nothing immersive about the experience. However, the E-3 actually is
> > pretty good for a digital camera.
> >
> > When it comes to my selects, it's not too hard to sort through 100+
> > pictures of the same thing. (yes, it happens). As I'm shooting, I'm
> > making mental notes of how I shot and which picture might be my
> > select. In Lightroom, I jump to that one, take a look and if it isn't
> > quite right, I'll look at the adjacent ones to see if there is
> > improvement. I'd say that as a general rule, if I take five pictures
> > of something, one will be a complete tosser, one will be "usable", two
> > more will be very good, and one might be exceptional. My goal is to
> > eliminate the tossers and leave the rest in place, until if/when I go
> > back through at some point to further thin the herd. In reality, I
> > look at my time in Lightroom finding my selects as the second half of
> > the actual shooting process. In the film era, 100% of the shooting
> > process was getting the picture into the camera, but today, I look at
> > the capture time as only a means to provide enough options to
> > "reshoot" it in the computer.
> >
> > AG Schnozz
>
> --
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
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