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Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Macro Experiment with Leica-R 60 Elmarit Macro Lens
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:00:50 -0500
Frank,

I agree with you.  Often, on rainy days, I will go back through the shots from previous days and find something I overlooked that can be transformed into a keeper by post-processing.  With today's software, many shots can be salvaged with a little ingenuity.

On 10/15/20 4:50 PM, Frank wrote:
Interesting indeed.

For myself, a good reason to prefer too many pictures over too few, is that
I more or less often get surprised by pictures I wouldn't consider keepers
at the time of shooting, but do end up as keepers after culling and post
processing. I like the serendipity of that ;-)


*Frank*


Op do 15 okt. 2020 om 22:49 schreef Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Since I originated this thread a week ago, I guess I should respond.
It's been interesting reading all of the comments.

Ken, I don't have your wide choice of scenery, but I do subscribe to
your approach.  My lowly insect subjects are subject to the same types
of problems that you quote, i.e., movement, missed focus, poor framing,
etc., etc.  I frequently shoot 20 or 30 frames in order to get a couple
of keepers, and I'm out for less than half an hour.  I can imagine what
you must shoot in a six hour hike.  Since mega-pickles are very
inexpensive, I see nothing wrong with making the final choice and
composition at the computer, where the view of the image is much, much
better.  YMMV.

On 10/15/20 3:28 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
Gatling Gun Wayne wrote:
What I like most about the stacking method is ability to use wider
F-stop, rendering the background bokeh better. F11 bokeh is hit or miss,
hence best used when including the distance, as in Mike's great shot. Ahh
digital, the ability to easily take 36 shots and stack them.
We could take 36 shots in the film era, but then each resulting
picture had a film/processing cost of about $30 USD.

Because of that, I was EXTREMELY efficient with my photography and got
to the point where my "pre editing" was detrimental to getting the
shot I actually wanted. It was certainly a case of "perfect is the
enemy of the good."

These days, I'm absolutely insane with my shooting and will frequently
fill up card after card in order to get the shot I really want. I
criticize myself for being, ahem, sloppy, but the reality is that I am
familiar with the various failure rates of my photography, so
overshooting is an important part of the equation in order to make
sure I get the shot. Sometimes the focus is off, sometimes the framing
is off, sometimes there is motion blur when the image-stabilization
decides to go ADHD right in the middle of a shot. The majority of my
issues relate to one specific issue, though: viewfinders! With the old
OM system, I could get exactly what I wanted (especially with the 1-4
screen) and critical focus was not only relatively easy to achieve,
but the bokeh traits of the screen encouraged a different artistic
interpretation. Most of my cameras (including the Sony) have
viewfinders that at best can be described as framing tools. There is
nothing immersive about the experience. However, the E-3 actually is
pretty good for a digital camera.

When it comes to my selects, it's not too hard to sort through 100+
pictures of the same thing. (yes, it happens). As I'm shooting, I'm
making mental notes of how I shot and which picture might be my
select. In Lightroom, I jump to that one, take a look and if it isn't
quite right, I'll look at the adjacent ones to see if there is
improvement. I'd say that as a general rule, if I take five pictures
of something, one will be a complete tosser, one will be "usable", two
more will be very good, and one might be exceptional. My goal is to
eliminate the tossers and leave the rest in place, until if/when I go
back through at some point to further thin the herd. In reality, I
look at my time in Lightroom finding my selects as the second half of
the actual shooting process. In the film era, 100% of the shooting
process was getting the picture into the camera, but today, I look at
the capture time as only a means to provide enough options to
"reshoot" it in the computer.

AG Schnozz
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Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

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