From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:10:04 2009 Received: (qmail 7105 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:10:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF5D1C40F9F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAEE44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E2319F87F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE9519F870 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.248]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so967234rvb.50 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr1417889rvj.37.1233443395915; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm2543473rvb.3.2009.01.31.15.09.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:55 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:09:06 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:10:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984da4c179761744846740 you never know what you may find once you venture out of your comfort zone - you may find that it was worth the trip :) nice shots, good job, love the b/w. i really like the "reflections" one, and... The big surprise was finding a statue of John Harvard, founder of the university, with a crowd of tourists. Everyone was touching the toe of his shoe. Seems that it's supposed to bring good luck. Or more smarts. I wasn't sure which. But a lot of people touched the toe. I put three shots, I think, on the page. ... man that toe is shiny! he has it better than the bull mosaic in the galleria in milano, italy. look what they do to him... (and i spare you the youtube videos on that) http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/2329286.jpg (not my photo) nico. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:14:56 2009 Received: (qmail 27844 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:14:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:14:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07461C40FAE for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B91044004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80DD34AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:14:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4577B34AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:14:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090131231448.KIEH6485.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:14:48 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:14:38 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:14:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984db7032141702588592 LOL. Thanx for sparing me the video. I'm not sure I could take it. --Bob On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > ... man that toe is shiny! > he has it better than the bull mosaic in the galleria in milano, > italy. look what they do to him... (and i spare you the youtube > videos on that) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:18:15 2009 Received: (qmail 15403 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:18:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:18:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9C81C40F9E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:18:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDDB44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7284934AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:18:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5151634AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:18:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 10 days 21:56:46 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:18:07 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n0VNI4eS031116 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:18:06 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com><498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com><498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:18:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:18:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984dc3737789347015869 Bob, Great job. Do you feel more comfortable about your next outing? Does it help that you were not in your own neighborhood? Thanks for sharing. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Whitmire" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) > Sometimes you must abandon the comfort zone. I've been envious of > Nathan and others on this list for some time because they seem to be > completely comfortable shooting on the street. Me, I'd rather eat > worms. But then from time to time you've got to do something that > scares you, right? It's not that I don't want to, it's just that my > testicular complement is not up to the job. Or hasn't been. > > So two weekends ago I visited my cousin in Cambridge, Massachusetts, > and lugged the D3 along. Despite biting cold and a desire to remain > in her house to play with her kids, I ventured forth. And I found my > fears to be true: I was _way_ outside my comfort zone. Give me a good > lighthouse any day! But I persisted. Actually talked to only one or > two people, including he woman in the first shot on the page. > > www.bwp33.com > > and click on Harvard Square > > The two dollars she's holding toward the camera came from my pocket. > It's quite a close crop from the original frame, but at 100 percent > you can read the serial numbers on the bill. I continue to be amazed > at how sharp that camera with a 24-70 can be, if I don't do something > to mess it up. > > There was no stealth involved. One cannot be stealthy with a Nikon D3 > around one's neck. It attracted quite a bit of attention. I lacked > the courage to stick it on 24mm and just fire away, but maybe that > will come with practice. > > The big surprise was finding a statue of John Harvard, founder of the > university, with a crowd of tourists. Everyone was touching the toe > of his shoe. Seems that it's supposed to bring good luck. Or more > smarts. I wasn't sure which. But a lot of people touched the toe. I > put three shots, I think, on the page. > > And then there was the completely unpublicized yet-to-be-unveiled > Harvard Monument to Manhood. I managed to slip in and get a shot of > that, too. Unfortunately, it remains under wraps for the time being. > I'm not sure when the cover comes off. Frankly, I was very surprised > to find a monument to manhood at an Ivy League university. > > Most of the shots have been extensively cropped to no particular > ratio. I doubt any of them will ever be printed. My intent was web > use only, and that for a limited time. > > So fire away. Hit me with your best shots. > > --Bob Whitmire > "Art's just fart without the eff." > www.bwp33.com > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:19:11 2009 Received: (qmail 21964 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:19:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:19:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BF71C40F99 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434B444004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1643C19F8AB for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC3619F88A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:19:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5130 invoked by uid 504); 31 Jan 2009 23:19:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090130-0, 01/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:19:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984dc6f310541702588592 Ha! Bartley's Burgers? From 1995-2001 I used to eat in there maybe once a month. Not bad but hardly the world's best. Clearly the food reporter for the Boston Globe has never made it out west. I'd choose In-N-Out over Bartley's any time. As a kid I lived just a few miles away from the original In-N-Out established in 1948 in Baldwin Park, California. I made a bee-line for that place as soon as we drove into the Los Angeles area on our big round-the-country trip. Unfortunately, the nearest In-N-Out is likely somewhere in Arizona. But there is one in Henderson, Nevada so I also get to go there when I visit my dad. Just about 1/4 mile from the Sunset Station Casino. Bartley's the best? Not bad but, nah! But they do have pretty good sweet potato fries. Next time you're in Cambridge stop by John Harvard's Brew House for a good lunch and a good beer. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > Sometimes you must abandon the comfort zone. I've been envious of > Nathan and others on this list for some time because they seem to be > completely comfortable shooting on the street. Me, I'd rather eat > worms. But then from time to time you've got to do something that > scares you, right? It's not that I don't want to, it's just that my > testicular complement is not up to the job. Or hasn't been. > > So two weekends ago I visited my cousin in Cambridge, Massachusetts, > and lugged the D3 along. Despite biting cold and a desire to remain > in her house to play with her kids, I ventured forth. And I found my > fears to be true: I was _way_ outside my comfort zone. Give me a good > lighthouse any day! But I persisted. Actually talked to only one or > two people, including he woman in the first shot on the page. > > www.bwp33.com > > and click on Harvard Square > > The two dollars she's holding toward the camera came from my pocket. > It's quite a close crop from the original frame, but at 100 percent > you can read the serial numbers on the bill. I continue to be amazed > at how sharp that camera with a 24-70 can be, if I don't do something > to mess it up. > > There was no stealth involved. One cannot be stealthy with a Nikon D3 > around one's neck. It attracted quite a bit of attention. I lacked > the courage to stick it on 24mm and just fire away, but maybe that > will come with practice. > > The big surprise was finding a statue of John Harvard, founder of the > university, with a crowd of tourists. Everyone was touching the toe > of his shoe. Seems that it's supposed to bring good luck. Or more > smarts. I wasn't sure which. But a lot of people touched the toe. I > put three shots, I think, on the page. > > And then there was the completely unpublicized yet-to-be-unveiled > Harvard Monument to Manhood. I managed to slip in and get a shot of > that, too. Unfortunately, it remains under wraps for the time being. > I'm not sure when the cover comes off. Frankly, I was very surprised > to find a monument to manhood at an Ivy League university. > > Most of the shots have been extensively cropped to no particular > ratio. I doubt any of them will ever be printed. My intent was web > use only, and that for a limited time. > > So fire away. Hit me with your best shots. > > --Bob Whitmire > "Art's just fart without the eff." > www.bwp33.com > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:21:11 2009 Received: (qmail 12450 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:21:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:21:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9849A1C40FA9 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD2944004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB7419F8AC for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:21:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AA319F88A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5722 invoked by uid 504); 31 Jan 2009 23:21:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 31 Jan 2009 23:21:02 -0000 Message-ID: <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:21:02 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090130-0, 01/30/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:21:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984dce7284131234514069 Of course there are veggies on the plate in addition to the spiedies. Do you think our mom's would let us get away without eating our veggies? Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Regional specialty? That's just a souvlaki with no salad. Seems to be > a murkin thing, leaving out the vegetable material. > Now I've got some nice venison cabana in the fridge for lunch (Polish > style sausage). Farmed animals as they aren't so 'carpish' here > (although the Carp are a serious problem). > But it does seem that the best way to get rid of a species is to > persuade people to eat it (Rabbit Stew anyone? Anyone?) > I mean, it's going to be cheaper than beef or sheepmeat in these > parlous times. > Just get over the sentimentality - nice picture of a particularly > ugly deer, wide angle, large nose portrait, with the legend 'It's not > Bambi, It's Brunch!'. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/02/2009, at 2:17 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> I'm not a hunter but with all the deer around here perhaps I should >> be. >> I do wish I had some venison to make spiedies. Venison makes the >> best. >> Spiedies are a local thing. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:25:27 2009 Received: (qmail 31982 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:25:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A03543021E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBCA44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57CA19F8CD for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:25:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2430319F687 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:25:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090131232520.YUUQ23506.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:25:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com><498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com><498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:25:10 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:25:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984dde7298562336821329 Thanx! I may be more comfortable next time. Especially in a place such as Harvard Square, where the normal is not. I think it helps some that I wasn't in my neighborhood, 'cause I didn't know anyone. I might be more self-conscious where people know me, but then I might get more volunteer subjects. Thanks for looking! --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Jim Nichols wrote: > Bob, > > Great job. Do you feel more comfortable about your next outing? > Does it > help that you were not in your own neighborhood? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:27:32 2009 Received: (qmail 28303 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:27:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE262430219 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F2744004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E0D34AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:27:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1639D34AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:27:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090131232726.EZJW22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:27:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4984DC65.20500@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DC65.20500@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <232302FF-A2AF-4565-BE56-5BA4672C9761@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:27:16 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:27:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984de64190111869477228 Didn't try the burgers. The smell of grease coming out of the place suggested I might be down for the count. But there were a _lot_ of people waiting to get in there at one point. Maybe they believed the sign. There's an excellent Indian restaurant near the Harvard Co-op, the name of which I can't recall. I've eaten there a couple of times. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Ha! Bartley's Burgers? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:37:24 2009 Received: (qmail 4267 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:37:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:37:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437BA1C40F43 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2668744004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FEA34AC037 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B8A34AC032 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so346372anc.35 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.121.12 with SMTP id t12mr2002185anc.96.1233445034826; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:37:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <981784A2-4586-418A-9939-D64A62661561@Bytesmiths.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:14 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e28ec94d6f90079 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Latest Combination X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:37:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984e0b4199217350615338 Obviously, it wasn't the evil cat. On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Chris Crawford < chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > My grandpa used to have a lot of cats, and the deer sometimes stole the cat > food. Once a deer was eating cat food when one of the cats was standing > there with its back arched, hair puffed up, hissing and growling. The deer > wasn't impressed. I agree that a dog or two would probably work well > though. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:48:47 2009 Received: (qmail 11050 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:48:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:48:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB34430238 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0736440050 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A257419F932 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C23919F939 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:42:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15916 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2009 23:42:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) 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All leave me with questions. Was the huge black woman begging? In those conditions? Is that and oxygen tube? And the appeal raises the inevitable questions about self-inflicted wounds. What does the woman with the dog have emblazoned on he arse? That whole image is a very interesting composition. The graffito is odd but I am bothered by that monument - did you give it the name or is it really called that - and it can't possibly be what it resembles, surely! While sneaky street shooting is an art, taking out a large lump of a camera is more honest in many ways. It gives people a chance to say no - or to engage with the camera - and it yells 'professional' unlike a Leica. You've got some nice shots there - do it again, and again. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 9:50 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > www.bwp33.com > > and click on Harvard Square -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:48:52 2009 Received: (qmail 21459 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:48:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCAE1C40F3C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9516044004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874F034AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:44:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03B634AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:44:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15968 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2009 23:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.180.59) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:44:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:44:50 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:48:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984e36418161744846740 It seems to be a murkin and Argentine thing - lotsa meat (barbecued), sauce and bread - forget the green stuff. Go on, admit it! How many Barbecue threads have there been on this list? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 10:21 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Of course there are veggies on the plate in addition to the spiedies. > Do you think our mom's would let us get away without eating our > veggies? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 00:58:44 2009 Received: (qmail 9142 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jan 2009 23:58:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jan 2009 23:58:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76B243038E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0546944004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E443419F988 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BACD19F97C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so347926anc.35 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.154.9 with SMTP id b9mr2017172ane.73.1233446316545; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:58:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:58:36 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6c8617da5ac8a942 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 00:58:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984e5b4134511823421471 > > It seems to be a murkin and Argentine thing - lotsa meat (barbecued), > sauce and bread - forget the green stuff. Go on, admit it! How many > Barbecue threads have there been on this list? > Veggies are those things that food eats. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 01:19:23 2009 Received: (qmail 12735 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 00:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 00:19:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B411C407EC for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A34044004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BCA34AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:19:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABAF34AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24667 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 00:19:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 00:19:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4984EA82.5020809@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:19:14 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DC65.20500@chucknorcutt.com> <232302FF-A2AF-4565-BE56-5BA4672C9761@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <232302FF-A2AF-4565-BE56-5BA4672C9761@roadrunner.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 01:19:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984ea8b186971529615919 There are several good ones. My preference was Cafe of India at 52 Brattle St. Good buffet, open front in the summer. Small and can get crowded at peak times. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > Didn't try the burgers. The smell of grease coming out of the place > suggested I might be down for the count. But there were a _lot_ of > people waiting to get in there at one point. Maybe they believed the > sign. There's an excellent Indian restaurant near the Harvard Co-op, > the name of which I can't recall. I've eaten there a couple of times. > > --Bob Whitmire > "Art's just fart without the eff." > www.bwp33.com > > > On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Ha! Bartley's Burgers? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 01:54:36 2009 Received: (qmail 31261 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 00:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 00:54:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D825C1C40F02 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3489644004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEF819FA89 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3416C19FA88 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.23]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [123.255.58.177] (177.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.177]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5643DB5E1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:54:17 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:54:16 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090130-0, 30/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 01:54:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984f2cc156189347015869 The article referenced in my previous e-mail (Mosaddiques Web Pages) begins with this section > Working With Large Hard Drives - The issues and the Limits > > WinXP & Win2k - FAT32 format limitations > > A few points one must understand about creating and using FAT32 partitions > in Windows XP or Windows 2000. There are limitations which are there by > design. > > WinXP & Win2k cannot create FAT32 partitions larger than 32 GB. > > WinXP & Win2k cannot format FAT32 partitions larger than 32 GB. > > WinXP & Win2k will happily use larger ones created using Win95R2, Win98 or > WinME. > > If you want to use large FAT32 partitions in WinXP / Win2k then create > them and format them using Win95R2, Win98 or WinME boot floppies or > bootable CDs. You can also use third party partitioning tools like > partition magic, or any other, that support creating and formatting of > FAT32 partitions. However, see later for limitations imposed by the old > ATA protocol. > > You can obviously create large NTFS partitions instead. He does however go into more detail later on. Two questions for those of you who have installed large hard drives; (a)How did you format them? (b)How do you get your O/S to recognise and work with them? Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 01:56:51 2009 Received: (qmail 7541 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 00:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 00:56:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8441C40521 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2C644004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597919FA86 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:56:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF17419FA8E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:56:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4808 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 00:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 00:56:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4984F34B.90106@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:56:43 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 01:56:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984f3531851342116753 The Argentines don't barbecue, they grill. And the Aussi "barbie" is a grill. Real barbecue, that's different. Walt would understand. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > It seems to be a murkin and Argentine thing - lotsa meat (barbecued), > sauce and bread - forget the green stuff. Go on, admit it! How many > Barbecue threads have there been on this list? > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/02/2009, at 10:21 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Of course there are veggies on the plate in addition to the spiedies. >> Do you think our mom's would let us get away without eating our >> veggies? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:08:10 2009 Received: (qmail 15992 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:08:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:08:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484F41C40546 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D2F44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFBE19FACD for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D14C19FAB8 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so352193anc.35 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.9.19 with SMTP id 19mr506394ani.8.1233450482238; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:08:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:08:02 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 255dfe9a15f26059 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:08:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984f5fa160731529615919 Well, Joel and I survived the elements and managed to completely alter the color of my Jeep (it was green) by traversing miles upon miles of muddy roads. The weather was somewhat pleasant--it made it into the lower 40's by mid-afternoon. The morning was spent down at the Lake Redrock tailwater photographing eagles and the wind coming off the water wasn't so warm. I took 600 pictures of the them and another 200 pictures during the afternoon of various points of interest. The battery in the E-1's HLD-2 battery grip never groused until I hit 580 pictures (nearly all RAW). But with a little warming up, the camera went back to indicating a full battery. (I know from past experience that 900-1200 RAW images is still within range of that battery if the temps are normal). Based on a quick scan from one place I was standing, I estimate that within 1/2 mile of the dam there were probably 50 eagles. Most were perched, but a half-dozen would venture forth for a lap and then return to the tree. I'm happy to say that I used absolutely every item (except for the yellow and green filters) I brought with me. My kit included the E-1, OM-3Ti, OM-4T, 14-54, 35-80, 24/2.8, 35/2.8, 35/shift, 50/3.5, 100/2.8, 200/4, 300/4.5 and 100-300/4. Oh, rats. I take it back, I didn't use the Vivitar flash gear nor the tripod. It was hit-and-miss whether I'd score the shot with the 35/shift, but at the very end I got that taken care of. Four rolls of film were sacrificed. The OM-4T was equipped with the MD2, but I kept the 3Ti light. My only problem with the MD2 is that it's so quick that if you happen to blink when the picture is taken you're not sure that you actually took a picture. Impressive. The 35-80 was hands-down the most used lens for 35mm, but the 300/4.5 got eagle duty for 90% of the pictures--I used the Tokina for comparison reasons. Ken's rule of Lens Lust: No matter how big your biggest lens is, somebody will come along with a bigger one. One guy showed up with some Canon Uber-lens big enough that it probably needs its own car. Oh, I'm convinced of my next tripod-head purchase. That Wimberly head is just way too cool. How do I convince the CDFO I need it, though? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:09:54 2009 Received: (qmail 5023 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:09:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354AD1C40F50 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:09:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1C744004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585CF34AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:09:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E37E34AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:09:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23850 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 01:09:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.180.59) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:09:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4984F34B.90106@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> <4984F34B.90106@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <8664B150-B7D5-4C27-84E2-BEF65B54DDE8@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:09:42 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:09:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984f662182961744846740 Some of us know the difference - and there's a lot of griddling going on out there too. As evidence of my thesis tho' , I'd like to point out how quickly commennts on Bob Whitmire's Havard Square photos degenerated into a discussion of the relative merits of burgers simply because there was a sign in one shot. Hopeless. :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 11:56 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > The Argentines don't barbecue, they grill. And the Aussi "barbie" > is a > grill. Real barbecue, that's different. Walt would understand. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:20:16 2009 Received: (qmail 4417 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:20:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58CA1C40F55 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82B244004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706D919FAF3 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:20:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B245719FAE0 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:20:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KED00HBH50C62J0@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:19:24 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-222-219-62.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.219.62]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:19:23 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:19:23 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAOAJ+GhEkY3ts+/2dsb2JhbACBZ4g9vVsHhA0G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,357,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="454611755" References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <9314D30A-539F-409A-943E-E457C140C49F@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:20:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984f8d061869117217770 > > While sneaky street shooting is an art, taking out a large lump of a > camera is more honest in many ways. It gives people a chance to say > no - or to engage with the camera - and it yells 'professional' > unlike a Leica. You've got some nice shots there - do it again, and > again. "Yells 'professional' unlike a Leica" eh ?? jh -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:27:13 2009 Received: (qmail 23006 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:27:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E016A1C403AD for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA46A44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14EF19FB53 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:27:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13D519FB3E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:27:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14529 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 01:27:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 01:27:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:27:04 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:27:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fa71252561838542571 For large drives don't use anything other than NTFS. FAT32 partitions larger than 32MB can be created but Microsoft didn't want you to do that. They are very inefficient. That's why the non-arbitrary size restriction is there. FAT and FAT32 are very efficient for sequential access but very inefficient for random access and get less and less efficient as the drive gets larger and larger. But read my other mail on this subject. Get another computer. Chuck Norcutt Brian Swale wrote: > The article referenced in my previous e-mail (Mosaddiques Web Pages) > begins with this section > >> Working With Large Hard Drives - The issues and the Limits >> >> WinXP & Win2k - FAT32 format limitations >> >> A few points one must understand about creating and using FAT32 partitions >> in Windows XP or Windows 2000. There are limitations which are there by >> design. >> >> WinXP & Win2k cannot create FAT32 partitions larger than 32 GB. >> >> WinXP & Win2k cannot format FAT32 partitions larger than 32 GB. >> >> WinXP & Win2k will happily use larger ones created using Win95R2, Win98 or >> WinME. >> >> If you want to use large FAT32 partitions in WinXP / Win2k then create >> them and format them using Win95R2, Win98 or WinME boot floppies or >> bootable CDs. You can also use third party partitioning tools like >> partition magic, or any other, that support creating and formatting of >> FAT32 partitions. However, see later for limitations imposed by the old >> ATA protocol. >> >> You can obviously create large NTFS partitions instead. > > He does however go into more detail later on. > > Two questions for those of you who have installed large hard drives; > > (a)How did you format them? > > (b)How do you get your O/S to recognise and work with them? > > Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:28:50 2009 Received: (qmail 3587 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:28:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:28:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F29D1C40F45 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC27D44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5BA34AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AEB34AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.236]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n111Sfqv015869 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:41 +1100 Message-Id: <200902010128.n111Sfqv015869@mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au ([58.104.126.247]) by webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:28:41 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:28:41 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:28:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fad2173705368819438 > Brian Swale <> wrote: > > I am seriously running out of space on my Acer XP machine with a 40GB > HDD, and it seems that the maximum that this motherboard and XP will > recognise is 137GB. I asked a friend who services computers for > information about EIDE and ATA. > So I presume a 500GB drive in an external case with USB/Firewire would work ok ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:29:12 2009 Received: (qmail 30155 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:29:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:29:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DECB1C40F4E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01FE44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D015019FB7C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F1219FB53 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15060 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 01:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 01:28:55 -0000 Message-ID: <4984FAD6.5000308@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:28:54 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> <4984F34B.90106@chucknorcutt.com> <8664B150-B7D5-4C27-84E2-BEF65B54DDE8@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <8664B150-B7D5-4C27-84E2-BEF65B54DDE8@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:29:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fae8128109117217770 I didn't say grilling (of the right stuff) isn't good. Ya just gotta call it by the right name. But grilling ribs... heavens no! Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Some of us know the difference - and there's a lot of griddling going > on out there too. > As evidence of my thesis tho' , I'd like to point out how quickly > commennts on Bob Whitmire's Havard Square photos degenerated into a > discussion of the relative merits of burgers simply because there was > a sign in one shot. Hopeless. :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/02/2009, at 11:56 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> The Argentines don't barbecue, they grill. And the Aussi "barbie" >> is a >> grill. Real barbecue, that's different. Walt would understand. >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:36:55 2009 Received: (qmail 26996 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:36:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:36:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12B21C40F3C for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7046D44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627D734AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:36:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B1534AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:36:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26239 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 01:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.180.59) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:36:45 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <9314D30A-539F-409A-943E-E457C140C49F@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <1217978E-D25D-4F81-821E-F324D34BBAD6@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:36:44 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:36:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fcb7168483675314703 You heard. The subjects think it's a weird retro thing - they don't take it seriously. Leica doesn't 'yell' professional. That's the point for many L shooters. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 12:19 PM, John Hudson wrote: > >> >> While sneaky street shooting is an art, taking out a large lump of a >> camera is more honest in many ways. It gives people a chance to say >> no - or to engage with the camera - and it yells 'professional' >> unlike a Leica. You've got some nice shots there - do it again, and >> again. > > "Yells 'professional' unlike a Leica" > > eh ?? > > jh > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:37:32 2009 Received: (qmail 32725 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:37:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:37:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D831C40F02 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9114B44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828A634AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69C434AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n111bPPE013932 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:37:25 +1100 Message-Id: <200902010137.n111bPPE013932@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au ([58.104.126.247]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:37:25 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:37:25 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:37:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fcdc57651035110158 > Jay Drew <> wrote: > > I > know, how politically un-correct, but I still shoot film and I am sure > the > production and development of film is far less green than digital. > Don't > anyone, they'll ban film. > It might be an interesting exercise to compare the greeness of film/digital. If you just look at the film/memory card part digital probably is greener, but what about considering the whole whole process, e.g. people replacing digital camers every 2 years, every user (pretty much) has their own PC, printer, etc, all consuming power and other resources... ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:38:49 2009 Received: (qmail 32131 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:38:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:38:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98C61C40F4D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A725044004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C8734AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:38:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB5234AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:38:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ACo31b0030lTkoCA3Remtv; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:38:46 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.20.254.166]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ARel1b0053cAhRk8QRelKe; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:38:45 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com><4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com><07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:38:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:38:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fd29156401744846740 Ken Norton wrote: > > Veggies are those things that food eats. > -- AMEN!!! Darin -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:40:49 2009 Received: (qmail 20657 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:40:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:40:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC661C40F46 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B065844004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:40:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3C019FBE4 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:40:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC11619FBE3 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:40:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n111efJO021340 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:40:41 +1100 Message-Id: <200902010140.n111efJO021340@mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au ([58.104.126.247]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:40:41 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:40:41 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:40:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fda157491023412894 > Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: > > Help the economy. Buy a new system. > Pay more money to the people that need it the least, waste more resources, etc... ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:42:36 2009 Received: (qmail 2427 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:42:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:42:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F061C40300 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D7C44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3937434AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:42:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.572 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10=0.572, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DA434AC02A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:42:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26410 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 01:42:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.180.59) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:42:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:42:26 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:42:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984fe0c306331529615919 About to buy a Seagate for the MacPro - probably a 750 to match the one in there but that depends on the offers. Certainly not going to pay double for an Apple rebadged one! Coupla questions for the wise geeks here - 1. Is the difference between AS and NS grade significant? 2. My machine won't go to SATA 2's speed - will a SATA 2 drive simply run slower but happy? (I thinks so but...) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > For large drives don't use anything other than NTFS. FAT32 partitions > larger than 32MB can be created but Microsoft didn't want you to do > that. They are very inefficient. That's why the non-arbitrary size > restriction is there. FAT and FAT32 are very efficient for sequential > access but very inefficient for random access and get less and less > efficient as the drive gets larger and larger. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:46:44 2009 Received: (qmail 596 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:46:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:46:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AF91C40F57 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F8A44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E0F19FC26 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:46:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D117319FC13 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:46:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n111kbWR025081 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:46:37 +1100 Message-Id: <200902010146.n111kbWR025081@mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au ([58.104.126.247]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:46:37 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:46:37 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:46:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4984ff0447751993019900 > Bob Whitmire wrote: > > Sometimes you must abandon the comfort zone. I've been envious of > Nathan and others on this list for some time because they seem to be > completely comfortable shooting on the street. Me, I'd rather eat > worms. But then from time to time you've got to do something that > scares you, right? It's not that I don't want to, it's just that my > testicular complement is not up to the job. Or hasn't been. > Street photography seems to get easier the further you are away from home. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 02:53:25 2009 Received: (qmail 1708 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 01:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 01:53:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D4C1C4050D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F317D44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E3834AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:53:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB7634AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:53:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KED00C4Y6KQOCL0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:53:14 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-222-219-62.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.219.62]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:53:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:53:12 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <3F265CCF0BB448909E83CF5E0034624E@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAOABSPhEkY3ts+/2dsb2JhbACBaIg9vW8HhA0G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,357,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="454621457" References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <9314D30A-539F-409A-943E-E457C140C49F@people.net.au> <1217978E-D25D-4F81-821E-F324D34BBAD6@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 02:53:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985009535571035110158 Sorry ..... misread you. Must have enjoyed one too many glasses of Wolf Blass 2010 Shiraz this evening .......ah ! jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) > You heard. The subjects think it's a weird retro thing - they don't > take it seriously. > Leica doesn't 'yell' professional. That's the point for many L shooters. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/02/2009, at 12:19 PM, John Hudson wrote: > >> >>> >>> While sneaky street shooting is an art, taking out a large lump of a >>> camera is more honest in many ways. It gives people a chance to say >>> no - or to engage with the camera - and it yells 'professional' >>> unlike a Leica. You've got some nice shots there - do it again, and >>> again. >> >> "Yells 'professional' unlike a Leica" >> >> eh ?? >> >> jh >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 03:05:52 2009 Received: (qmail 16215 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 02:05:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 02:05:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FCB1C40F3F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E127A44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CE619FCF1 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:05:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E540919FCB4 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:05:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1125hJj028455 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:05:44 +1100 Message-Id: <200902010205.n1125hJj028455@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au ([58.104.126.247]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:05:43 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:05:43 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 03:05:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985038011151073733319 > John Hudson <> wrote: > > > Sorry ..... misread you. Must have enjoyed one too many glasses of Wolf > Blass 2010 Shiraz this evening .......ah ! > Many years ago Wolf Blass was accused of "doctoring" some of his reds by adding oak chips to the barrels they were maturing in, didn't realise he was mistating the vintage year too ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 03:15:33 2009 Received: (qmail 3061 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 02:15:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 02:15:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F071D1C40306 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ED044004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00C919FD1D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:15:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFE719FCB4 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29752 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 02:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 02:15:25 -0000 Message-ID: <498505BD.4070805@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:15:25 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 03:15:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498505c5111911946193717 Read the stuff on this page and make up your own mind on AS vs NS Maybe I would do it for the main drive but not for a backup drive which would run infrequently. But I wouldn't be willing to pay much for the difference. You've gotta have a backup drive anyhow. Manufacturer's MTBF is a sort of a phantom. I don't know if you can interpret it in a rational way. An SATA 2 drive will be happy running slower and it really won't be all that much slower. The spec difference is in the instantaneous transfer rate. Drives spend much of their time trying to find and get to the data and not too much on the actual data transfer time once they've found it. At 7200 rpm it takes 8 ms for the disk to make one rotation and for the head to read the entire track. But when the read head first gets to that track, on average, it's got to wait for 1/2 rotation to get to the right starting point. Head motion and rotational delays are a big part of total time. That is especially so on a multi-tasking computer where other processes may be vying for use of the same drive and disrupting the smooth streaming of data with demands for the read/write head to move somewhere else on the drive. There is no "instantaneous transfer" going on while the heads are bounding hither and yon between tracks. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > About to buy a Seagate for the MacPro - probably a 750 to match the > one in there but that depends on the offers. > Certainly not going to pay double for an Apple rebadged one! > Coupla questions for the wise geeks here - > 1. Is the difference between AS and NS grade significant? > 2. My machine won't go to SATA 2's speed - will a SATA 2 drive simply > run slower but happy? (I thinks so but...) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/02/2009, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> For large drives don't use anything other than NTFS. FAT32 partitions >> larger than 32MB can be created but Microsoft didn't want you to do >> that. They are very inefficient. That's why the non-arbitrary size >> restriction is there. FAT and FAT32 are very efficient for sequential >> access but very inefficient for random access and get less and less >> efficient as the drive gets larger and larger. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 03:31:12 2009 Received: (qmail 27651 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 02:31:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 02:31:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BFA1C40F59 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05EE44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A825119FD9A for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:31:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70FD19FA56 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:31:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2207 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 02:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 02:31:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49850968.3050401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:31:04 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902010128.n111Sfqv015869@mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200902010128.n111Sfqv015869@mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 03:31:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49850970104841585427447 No, it won't unless he partitions the drive into multiple logical drives less than or equal to 137MB. The problem is that his version of the OS doesn't support logical block addressing (LBA) which is required to fully address all the space on a drive larger than 137GB. Or the current version of his OS may support LBA but his drive was formatted and built at a time that it didn't. After installing an LBA conforming version of the OS he can probably enable LBA addressing on a drive by drive basis to avoid problems with his current drive. But it's potential problems with the current drive and uncertainty about the ability to enable LBA on a drive by drive basis that would keep me from doing it. I would fear for the viability of the boot drive after the conversion. Not worth it which is why I say get a newer system. Doesn't have to be new. Prior to the development of LBA drives were addressed on a cylinder, head, sector basis and the data on his current drive is organized and accessed that way. The OS tells the drive: get me sectors 8, 9 and 10 from cylinder 32, head number 11. With LBA the OS tells the drive: get me sectors 58113, 58114 and 58115 and the OS has no idea about the physical cylinder, head and sector organization of the drive or, as in the case of a CF card, if it even has cylinders, heads and sectors. I have a very poor understanding about how one converts (on the fly) from one system to another. Although I understand the cause of the problem I'm not sure I understand enough that I know with 100% certainty that I can solve it without killing the current drive. Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Brian Swale <> wrote: >> >> I am seriously running out of space on my Acer XP machine with a 40GB >> HDD, and it seems that the maximum that this motherboard and XP will >> recognise is 137GB. I asked a friend who services computers for >> information about EIDE and ATA. >> > > So I presume a 500GB drive in an external case with USB/Firewire would work ok ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 03:45:44 2009 Received: (qmail 500 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 02:45:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 02:45:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35FF1C40F58 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A029844004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E38019FE9D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:45:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B7219FDFD for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d1f.3fba97d3 (34895) for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:45:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA014-5bb249850cc8111; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:45:33 -0500 Received: from webmail-stg-d10 (webmail-stg-d10.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.31]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA021-5bb249850cc8111; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:45:28 -0500 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:45:27 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.181 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41095-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.31) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:45:27 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 03:45:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49850cd8179661702588592 Bombay Club is around there---been there 3 or 4 times. A solid B. There is a Southern Indian place with the same owner as Rani's on Harvard street around the corner, if you like dosas etc. For something different an Afghan place, The Helmand, (owned by Karzai's brother) is near Kendall Square---a several mile drive from where you were. I have them on speed dial. Most often requires a reservation even on a weekday eve. Nice series, thanks for posting. Mike There are several good ones. My preference was Cafe of India at 52 Brattle St. Good buffet, open front in the summer. Small and can get crowded at peak times. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: Didn't try the burgers. The smell of grease coming out of the place suggested I might be down for the count. But there were a _lot_ of people waiting to get in there at one point. Maybe they believed the sign. There's an excellent Indian restaurant near the Harvard Co-op, the name of which I can't recall. I've eaten there a couple of times. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 04:14:34 2009 Received: (qmail 17528 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 03:14:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 03:14:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D221C40F56 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860C944004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DE934AC02B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:14:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A824434AC006 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:14:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com (imo-m19.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cb7.487b89fb (37131) for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA025-5c3f498513861e7; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:14:18 -0500 Received: from webmail-stg-d10 (webmail-stg-d10.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.31]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB035-5c3f498513861e7; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:14:14 -0500 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:14:14 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.181 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41095-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.31) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:14:14 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB52324B88D219-1288-13F9@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Question on use of OM adaptall2 on a 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 04:14:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985139a181149347015869 Hmm, It seems I have yet one more to modify hiding on my 400/4. I'll try your variation next. The pungent epoxy aroma somehow urged me to search for a post of the all time most famous list epoxyier. http://lists.tako.de/Olympus-OM/2005-05/msg00388.html Mike My small variation on Gary's method (which was my guideline when I altered my adaptall): I put a very small piece of aluminum foil on top of the screw head to keep the epoxy from filling the slots of the screw in case I had to pull it apart - not that I would know what to do if I did pull it apart. I figured getting that epoxy out of the phillip slots might be painful. I run my finger nail across the mount before attaching to the camera body as a check. Jay -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 04:42:44 2009 Received: (qmail 17383 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 03:42:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 03:42:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901301C40F40 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AA544004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F6634AC003 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9920D34AC002 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGN85704 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3A8B5A57-782E-4006-B221-C0F53275BB68@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3F265CCF0BB448909E83CF5E0034624E@hudson> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:42:36 -0800 References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <9314D30A-539F-409A-943E-E457C140C49F@people.net.au> <1217978E-D25D-4F81-821E-F324D34BBAD6@people.net.au> <3F265CCF0BB448909E83CF5E0034624E@hudson> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: [OM] future booze, was (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 04:42:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49851a3444677927319144 On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:53 PM, John Hudson wrote: > > Sorry ..... misread you. Must have enjoyed one too many glasses of > Wolf > Blass 2010 Shiraz this evening .......ah ! > > jh > Time traveling now? 2010? Do tell me what new toys Olympus has released, particularly the M1 and M100 and any successors. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 04:46:21 2009 Received: (qmail 15364 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 03:46:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 03:46:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690B1C40F56 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C64544004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971C1A0052 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:46:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_NONELEMENT_40_50=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DD71A004E for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:46:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ARBT1b0031HzFnQ53TmEDJ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:46:14 +0000 Received: from sz0029.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.79]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ATmE1b0071iZpPQ3aTmECm; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:46:14 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:46:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Don Holbrook To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <705060632.228311233459974927.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <49848830.9020700@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [76.96.58.79] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64 (zclient/5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Question on use of OM adaptall2 on a 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 04:46:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49851b0d232351869477228 Overfill the screw hole and, just before it sets, carefully slice the glue flush with a single edge razor blade (not too soon, not too late). I've used several glue types - all worked. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Norcutt To: Olympus Camera Discussion Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OM] Question on use of OM adaptall2 on a 4T >From a near 10 year-old post from Gary Edwards ------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:42:43 -0600 From: Gary Edwards Subject: Re: [OM] Re: Adaptall for OM4t Yes, there ARE versions of the Adaptall 2 mount that will shear off the reset button on your OM-4(T, Ti) lens mount. But, you don't really have to chase down the version that does not - look at the Adaptall as you simulate mounting it. If one of the screw heads will pass across the reset button as the mount is rotated, just fill that screw recess with 5-minute epoxy. Mine has been working fine like that for eight or nine months now. Inspect it periodically to be sure that the epoxy hasn't fallen out. If, for any reason, it becomes necessary to disassemble that mount for service (anyone heard of having to service an Adaptall mount?) just apply heat to the epoxy with a soldering iron. It will soften and you can dig it out enough to remove the screw. Gary Edwards -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 05:24:51 2009 Received: (qmail 18828 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 04:24:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 04:24:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E548B1C40F66 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EFE44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132E234AC002 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:24:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F60634AC001 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:24:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYA08600 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:25:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:24:34 -0800 References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 05:24:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49852413156323675314703 On Jan 31, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > > www.bwp33.com > > and click on Harvard Square > > So fire away. Hit me with your best shots. > > --Bob Whitmire > "Art's just fart without the eff." > www.bwp33.com Love the reflections shot. and monument to manhood? is that what i think it is? but why?! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 06:18:58 2009 Received: (qmail 4521 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 05:18:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 05:18:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD8D1C40F45 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFF344004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF891A03B7 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:18:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA1719FEA4 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:18:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from macbook.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:18:48 +0100 Message-ID: <498530B7.1090302@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:18:47 +0100 From: swisspace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2009 05:18:48.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FC1CCC0:01C9842C] Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 06:18:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498530c2257602336821329 A pal at work and I had problems with noise in our macpros when we added disks, they got very noisy, we traced it down to having non matching disks, i,e western digital and seagate, luckily we could solve this by just swapping so he got the western digitals and me the seagates. We think it was caused by them having slightly different spin speeds which caused them to resonate it really was an irritating sound. later I ordered 5 identical seagate disks (one for a spare). then replaced 2 with 750G for my pictures, I have stayed with seagate with no problem, If I bought now I would get the 1.5TB seagates as they are tested to be fast (www.barefeats.com). I would't worry too much about the grades, one is designed to be permanently on in a server the other for intermittent desktop use, however you will probably swap them for larger drives well before they are ending their expected lifetime. IanW Andrew Fildes wrote: > About to buy a Seagate for the MacPro - probably a 750 to match the > one in there but that depends on the offers. > Certainly not going to pay double for an Apple rebadged one! > Coupla questions for the wise geeks here - > 1. Is the difference between AS and NS grade significant? > 2. My machine won't go to SATA 2's speed - will a SATA 2 drive simply > run slower but happy? (I thinks so but...) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 06:35:31 2009 Received: (qmail 29230 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 05:35:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 05:35:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FF31C40F38 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9426C44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD3F34AC003 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:35:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08D834AC002 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:35:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp130.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp130.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 99847 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 05:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arctic.dapoz.ca) (md@99.224.154.42 with plain) by smtp130.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 05:35:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: RIl2DekVM1n_hqac21Arlixqr5vsOXa3PHo10DdJ.l4c1NOMw3w.GJYniOBLxa8DZw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4985349A.9030407@dementia.org> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:35:22 -0500 From: Mark Dapoz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> <498530B7.1090302@yahoo.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <498530B7.1090302@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 06:35:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498534a323241585427447 swisspace said the following on 2/1/09 12:18 AM: > A pal at work and I had problems with noise in our macpros when we added > disks, they got very noisy, we traced it down to having non matching > disks, i,e western digital and seagate, luckily we could solve this by > just swapping so he got the western digitals and me the seagates. We > think it was caused by them having slightly different spin speeds which > caused them to resonate it really was an irritating sound. There's a known problem with the design of the hard drive caddy in the Mac Pro. Under some conditions the handle portion of the caddy can start to resonate. A little forceful bending of the handle or some padding behind it seems to fix it. > later I ordered 5 identical seagate disks (one for a spare). then > replaced 2 with 750G for my pictures, I have stayed with seagate with no > problem, If I bought now I would get the 1.5TB seagates as they are > tested to be fast (www.barefeats.com). I've been using the Samsung drives lately, they seem to run about 10C cooler in the Mac Pro than the Western Digitals. I have five drives in there right now and all the Samsung's are at about 25C while the WD's are about 37C. The Samsung's (750's and 1TB's) are quieter as well. -mark -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 06:52:39 2009 Received: (qmail 2701 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 05:52:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 05:52:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE4A1C40F62 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D451544004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B739C1A0410 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:52:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439001A0404 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:52:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cl40.gs02.gridserver.com (cl40.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50653 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl40.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LTVFw-0004Bb-IT for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:52:32 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:52:30 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Latest Combination Thread-Index: AcmEMUTXg4UEpvAkEd2wQQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Latest Combination X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 06:52:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498538a7257602336821329 No, this was before she was born. Back then, grandpa had more than 20 cats! He lived out in the country and had several acres of land. Strangely enough, he got a mouse in his house once back in the 20+ cat days. I don't know how it got past the horde of predators surrounding the building! He brought a cat in and it quickly caught and ate the mouse right there in his living room. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 1/31/09 6:37 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: > Obviously, it wasn't the evil cat. > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Chris Crawford < > chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: > >> My grandpa used to have a lot of cats, and the deer sometimes stole the cat >> food. Once a deer was eating cat food when one of the cats was standing >> there with its back arched, hair puffed up, hissing and growling. The deer >> wasn't impressed. I agree that a dog or two would probably work well >> though. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 07:52:47 2009 Received: (qmail 10448 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 06:52:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 06:52:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535CF1C40F65 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:52:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F09644004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEFD1A046F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:52:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.572 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10=0.572, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A956D1A046B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:52:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17725 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 06:52:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.150.204) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 06:52:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498530B7.1090302@yahoo.co.uk> References: <4985A988.23382.1AF634D@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4984FA68.3030104@chucknorcutt.com> <498530B7.1090302@yahoo.co.uk> Message-Id: <67C0B271-E647-40CF-BAD5-5DE322C7A04A@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:52:30 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 07:52:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498546bf78871257536491 That's why I was looking at Seagate - they seem to be what's needed. Thanks for the responses guys - pretty much what I thought but I needed reassurance as usual! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 4:18 PM, swisspace wrote: > A pal at work and I had problems with noise in our macpros when we > added > disks, they got very noisy, we traced it down to having non matching > disks, i,e western digital and seagate, luckily we could solve this by > just swapping so he got the western digitals and me the seagates. We > think it was caused by them having slightly different spin speeds > which > caused them to resonate it really was an irritating sound. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 07:58:56 2009 Received: (qmail 1865 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 06:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 06:58:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FCE1C40F4B for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F337A44004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF0B1A0479 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:58:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072C61A0476 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:58:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17931 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 06:58:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.150.204) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 06:58:45 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200902010205.n1125hJj028455@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200902010205.n1125hJj028455@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-Id: <87233F5C-5EA0-4CE5-8602-1B0DDD837417@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:58:44 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 07:58:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49854830306741470116606 That's a trick known as 'boisinee' as I recall. You add chips from broken, well used barrels or a fluid derived from them. It's a quick and dirty way of achieving fast maturation. They execute you in public in Bordeaux for that crime. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/02/2009, at 1:05 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Many years ago Wolf Blass was accused of "doctoring" some of his > reds by adding oak chips to the barrels they were maturing in, -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 08:15:44 2009 Received: (qmail 29597 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 07:15:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 07:15:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116E91C40F62 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF1444004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996EE34AC028 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE2034AC003 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so396602tia.10 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.110.42.1 with SMTP id p1mr4105155tip.51.1233472535924; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-220-35.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.220.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 25sm5783686tif.6.2009.01.31.23.15.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49854C0D.1060100@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:15:25 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 08:15:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49854c2049081499373980 Bob Whitmire wrote: > ... > www.bwp33.com > > and click on Harvard Square > ... > So fire away. Hit me with your best shots. Bob, I quite like this shot: http://www.bwp33.com/page6/files/page6-1014-full.html It's a whole lot of quite separated compositional elements put together nicely. The someone matching outfits on two of those elements don't hurt the image either. :-) Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 08:29:03 2009 Received: (qmail 29793 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 07:29:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 07:29:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1661C40F5F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EC644004F for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909821A04A1 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:28:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707691A049D for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:28:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251BAC96FD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:50:26 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:28:54 +0000 References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 08:29:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49854f3f239102070262475 Well done, Bob I found the first and the last two most interesting, but the composition of the "Show at the Toe" and "I dunno ..." also caught my eye. I did something similar this week, walking along Cromwell Road in London, between hotel and work, doing shots that caught my fancy, including the odd sneaky shot.. I'll see if I think it's worth putting them up. Chris On 31 Jan 2009, at 22:50, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Sometimes you must abandon the comfort zone. I've been envious of > Nathan and others on this list for some time because they seem to be > completely comfortable shooting on the street. Me, I'd rather eat > worms. But then from time to time you've got to do something that > scares you, right? It's not that I don't want to, it's just that my > testicular complement is not up to the job. Or hasn't been. > > So two weekends ago I visited my cousin in Cambridge, Massachusetts, > and lugged the D3 along. Despite biting cold and a desire to remain > in her house to play with her kids, I ventured forth. And I found my > fears to be true: I was _way_ outside my comfort zone. Give me a good > lighthouse any day! But I persisted. Actually talked to only one or > two people, including he woman in the first shot on the page. > > www.bwp33.com > > and click on Harvard Square snip -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 12:15:14 2009 Received: (qmail 9747 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 11:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 11:15:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30EC430238 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6567344004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A8934AC041 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:15:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABADB34AC03E for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:15:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LTaI4-0007z6-0m for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:15:04 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 12:15:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49858442273041838542571 I sold my last OM MD2 a year ago ago because I unintentionally used it on the OM-4Ti as if it was my E-400.... A 36-frame film was spent in less than two minutes, and worst of all I had brought only one spare. One gets used so easily to digital cameras with almost unlimited numbers of shots, that one forgets to be careful with film using the OMs. Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:08:02 -0600, Ken Norton wrote: >..... >3Ti light. My only problem with the MD2 is that it's so quick that if you >happen to blink when the picture is taken you're not sure that you actually >took a picture. Impressive. >..... >AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 12:22:22 2009 Received: (qmail 8005 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 11:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 11:22:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A45430309 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327DF44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100FF19E137 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:22:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C130519E130 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:22:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 5 days 20:23:02 ago / 195.8.64.7 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 03:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from 11.red-83-39-85.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.39.85.11]:49936 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LTaOr-0003PE-Ks (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:22:05 +0000 Message-Id: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Picture a Day discussion group , Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:22:04 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 4: streets of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 12:22:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498585ee199042336821329 This was a good week, with lots of photos and a new lens which I = already like very much--the 3.8/24mm Elmar. Of course I had to = thoroughly test it, and my approach to testing involves just going out = in the streets and taking pictures. If I like the results, the lens is = deemed good. There are also tapas and many se=F1oritas (and se=F1oras, I = guess): http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=3D183 As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 14:03:05 2009 Received: (qmail 23802 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 13:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 13:03:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E990D43028B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D7144004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82793610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:02:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8CA3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:02:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so393387ywa.80 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:02:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.6.16 with SMTP id 16mr1115160anf.108.1233493378724; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:02:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:02:58 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c570638013796a70 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 14:03:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49859d8991411023412894 My biggest mistake with the MD2 was holding the camera vertically in such a way that the film rewind knob was pressed against my nose. I thought it was going to rip half my nose off. Those are things one only does once. AG Schnozz to the grindstone -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 14:12:55 2009 Received: (qmail 4877 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 13:12:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 13:12:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E19343027B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4B144004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F61019E407 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:12:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB86C19E3D4 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:12:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2337 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 13:12:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 13:12:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49859FCA.1080309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:12:42 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 4: streets of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 14:12:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49859fd7101371342116753 I like this weeks main selection. Makes me wonder what these guys are = discussing. Vanessa and her friend more than adequately fullfill the = need for senoras/senoritas. I like Alt 1 and Alt 6 but converted to B&W = with a high contrast blue filter. I also like Alt 3 but would like it = better if both men were complete silhouettes. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > This was a good week, with lots of photos and a new lens which I = > already like very much--the 3.8/24mm Elmar. Of course I had to = > thoroughly test it, and my approach to testing involves just going out = > in the streets and taking pictures. If I like the results, the lens is = > deemed good. There are also tapas and many se=F1oritas (and se=F1oras, I = > guess): > = > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=3D183 > = > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > = > Nathan > = > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > = > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > = > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 14:19:57 2009 Received: (qmail 1616 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 13:19:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 13:19:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F0B430303 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF44444004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D223610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:19:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694E03610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:19:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19874 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 13:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 13:19:45 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201081344.011598b0@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:19:47 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901300857y7effe096m4fbf4d1a9ea356d1@mail.gmail.com> <498363A1.307@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Latest Combination X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 14:19:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985a17d170841234514069 At 04:44 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: >> >> I was astounded that she had not seen me or been able to change course >> in time. If I'd have been on a motorcycle it might have been me getting >> dispatched. > >If she was running, chances are she saw you coming and that's why she tried >getting to the other side of the road. Deer always think the other side is >safer for some stupid reason. We have deer that will jump our 5 foot chain link fence to get food. I hit a deer at 15mph once, fortunately the deer seemed OK. I was surprised that she rain in front of me like a suicidal squirrel. The reason is that the other deer had already crossed, and their instinct is to stay together. The only reason I was going 15mph was that I saw the group and thought that would be a safe speed. The biggest problem we have with deer here is the deer ticks and Lymes. Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 14:40:40 2009 Received: (qmail 206 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 13:40:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 13:40:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583AE43022A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4735A44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D4C19E4CD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:40:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479B219E4B1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 05:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26352 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 13:40:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 13:40:31 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201082112.0114b068@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:40:34 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0901281401n56a4adc4r3c5a8e632b1eaf25@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200901282140.n0SLeABc013051@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9e908c1f0901281401n56a4adc4r3c5a8e632b1eaf25@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Latest Combination X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 14:40:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985a65828425368819438 At 05:01 PM 1/28/2009, Joel wrote: > >I did some shooting with E-1 and Zuiko 28/2 (not 2.8) about a week ago: > >http://flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157612910443015/show/ > >It is the wider of the two shots. The closer was shot with 50/1.2. I >like both lenses on the E-1. > >No shots of the lenses on the camera, but I can assure you both look >gorgeous! :) Nice shots. This area reminds me more of northern Missourah with rolling hills than the flat Iowa I remember. In December we traveled home to Kansas City, the airport is out in the country and surrounded by farmland. I was surprised by the number of hawks we counted on the way to Independence. I would assume there are similar populations of hawks in Iowa? But I wonder if all the chemical usage has an affect on birds, rodents and other wildlife there? Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 15:55:19 2009 Received: (qmail 4908 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 14:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 14:55:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F8E430315 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03C844004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A3D19E7CD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:55:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3AD19E7C8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:55:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 06:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22340 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 14:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 14:55:05 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201095111.023a5210@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:55:08 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: <4983CD43.8090201@gmail.com> References: <4982E70B.90806@blueyonder.co.uk> <9e908c1f0901301846u38f61536jd1ddea43f041afce@mail.gmail.com> <4983CD43.8090201@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Inauguration Gigapan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 15:55:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985b7d7312837927319144 I notice the giga-thing-o must not be calibrated for focus pivot point. Notice the split in the close big lens on the far left due to stitching. Wayne At 11:02 PM 1/30/2009, Marc of Noosa Heads, Oz wrote: >Joel Wilcox wrote: >>> >> >> I've spent WAY, WAY too much time looking at this. >> >> I just wish the creator had had it Moosified before doing whatever it >> is that he did. > >The equipment to help you make your own: > >http://i.gizmodo.com/5143020/gigapan-epic-captures-photographs-by-the-gigapixel > >(your own gigapixel image that is, not inauguration) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 16:18:25 2009 Received: (qmail 2097 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 15:18:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 15:18:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E80643035B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E9944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FF519E8C8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:18:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D68A19E887 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:18:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13889 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 15:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 15:18:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4985BD36.7090705@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:18:14 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4982E70B.90806@blueyonder.co.uk> <9e908c1f0901301846u38f61536jd1ddea43f041afce@mail.gmail.com> <4983CD43.8090201@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090201095111.023a5210@zuik.net> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201095111.023a5210@zuik.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Inauguration Gigapan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 16:18:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985bd41103801499373980 Probably subject motion between two successive overlapping exposures. You can see frame-to-frame motion blurring other places. Look under the white TV camera tower. There are two DC cops standing there with their heads looking down at the ground. Look behind the legs of the cop on the right. You can see he shifted position. Chuck Norcutt ws wrote: > I notice the giga-thing-o must not be calibrated for focus pivot point. Notice > the split in the close big lens on the far left due to stitching. > > Wayne > > At 11:02 PM 1/30/2009, Marc of Noosa Heads, Oz wrote: >> Joel Wilcox wrote: >>>> >>> I've spent WAY, WAY too much time looking at this. >>> >>> I just wish the creator had had it Moosified before doing whatever it >>> is that he did. >> The equipment to help you make your own: >> >> http://i.gizmodo.com/5143020/gigapan-epic-captures-photographs-by-the-gigapixel >> >> (your own gigapixel image that is, not inauguration) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 16:23:45 2009 Received: (qmail 26143 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 15:23:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 15:23:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329A643022F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:23:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B86F44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639C219E8E2 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A1C19E8E6 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:23:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1019 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 15:23:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 15:23:36 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201100148.02382df8@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:22:32 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 16:23:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985be81168521585427447 Good for you. A cold day in Harvard you were out of the comfort zone in more than one way. I too am more introverted and taking out a big camera means being discrete is not a real option. I think my OM-4t would feel less invasive than the 5D. I like the "Arrival at Harvard" shot the best. It has that close, being in the scene with the subject, feeling that I like to see. The wider angle puts the main subject right there, while the background context is also pulled in. A longer focal length would not do that. Clearly she knew you were shooting, and probably modified her expression, but still you can feel the excitement in her step. One trick I learned, being a male photographer, if my wife or another female is with me, makes it easier. Being a photographer automatically puts one in the category of all photographers. Even though you may be the most considerate photographer, many are not. And that sort of pollutes the atmosphere and adds one more challenge. I'm always self-conscious about being invasive with a camera. Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 16:29:49 2009 Received: (qmail 30965 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 15:29:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 15:29:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5078143032D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59B044004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD74A3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:29:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C7D3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:29:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3853 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 15:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 15:29:41 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201102436.0231ddf0@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:29:43 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> References: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 4: streets of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 16:29:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985bfed62901470116606 My preferred lens testing procedure also. I notice most of your shots are horizontal. Clearly the main shot and most are good horizontal, but Alt 6 and maybe alt 10 might have worked better as a vertical. Wayne At 06:22 AM 2/1/2009, you wrote: >This was a good week, with lots of photos and a new lens which I = >already like very much--the 3.8/24mm Elmar. Of course I had to = >thoroughly test it, and my approach to testing involves just going out = >in the streets and taking pictures. If I like the results, the lens is = >deemed good. There are also tapas and many se=F1oritas (and se=F1oras, I = >guess): = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 16:32:31 2009 Received: (qmail 11774 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68854430389 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAC144004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE8C19E8F2 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:32:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38B919E971 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:32:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 07:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [98.127.161.204] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by fe-4.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 651859859 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:32:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4985C088.5050708@bresnan.net> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:32:24 -0700 From: Candace Lemarr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4982E70B.90806@blueyonder.co.uk> <9e908c1f0901301846u38f61536jd1ddea43f041afce@mail.gmail.com> <4983CD43.8090201@gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090201095111.023a5210@zuik.net> <4985BD36.7090705@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4985BD36.7090705@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Inauguration Gigapan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 16:32:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985c08f64962336821329 Check out the poor woman in the lavender jacket and gray pants holding what looks to be a baby and standing just below and (viewer's) right of the dais. She is missing most of her head, her left shoulder and has somehow managed to grow three legs. I've often wished for 3 arms...but not 3 legs. :-) Candace Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Probably subject motion between two successive overlapping exposures. > You can see frame-to-frame motion blurring other places. Look under the > white TV camera tower. There are two DC cops standing there with their > heads looking down at the ground. Look behind the legs of the cop on > the right. You can see he shifted position. > > Chuck Norcutt > > ws wrote: >> I notice the giga-thing-o must not be calibrated for focus pivot point. Notice >> the split in the close big lens on the far left due to stitching. >> >> Wayne >> >> At 11:02 PM 1/30/2009, Marc of Noosa Heads, Oz wrote: >>> Joel Wilcox wrote: >>>>> >>>> I've spent WAY, WAY too much time looking at this. >>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 17:11:51 2009 Received: (qmail 32205 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 16:11:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 16:11:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056ED4302DD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D021D19EA1D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:11:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C32D19E7DE for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:11:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from webmail-out.lnh.mail.rcn.net (webmail-out.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.109]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.92]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Feb 2009 11:11:39 -0500 Received: (from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net [209.6.134.92]) by ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id CCH11473 (AUTH lmwoods@rcn.com); Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:11:39 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence Woods To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.8.5-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090201111139.CCH11473@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:11:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp (spiedie) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 17:11:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985c9c7285621470116606 > From: Chuck Norcutt > > ... Spiedies are a local thing. > My wife went to Binghamton University in the 1970's and recalls spiedie as a lamb kabob sub sandwich available at many but not all sub shops in the area. She does not remember the Spiedie Festival. Chuck - it seems we have a strange non-connection going. You used to live in a town in Massachusetts next to mine, then moved to the area in New York where my wife used to live. I wonder what else we don't almost have in common? ----- Larry Woods lmwoods@rcn.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 17:55:43 2009 Received: (qmail 14323 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 16:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 16:55:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F5643039B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3289C44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB319ED0D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:55:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.819 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.819 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.819, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96AB19ED0C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:55:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from GMcGrath@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.ca4.3d2056b5 (14501) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:55:32 -0500 (EST) From: GMcGrath@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:55:31 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] ? about source for touchup paint X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 17:55:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985d40f9662070262475 I recall at some time in the past there was some info on the list about touchup paint for camera bodies, specifically for lettering that had become discolored or lost its original paint. I think paint sticks were mentioned. If anyone has a source for this item now, I'd appreciate some info about it. TIA, Greg **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:02:41 2009 Received: (qmail 23098 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:02:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:02:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DA2430382 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B19E44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EE619ED5C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:02:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59B819ED39 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:02:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from webmail-out.lnh.mail.rcn.net (webmail-out.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.109]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.92]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Feb 2009 12:02:33 -0500 Received: (from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net [209.6.134.92]) by ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id CCH17591 (AUTH lmwoods@rcn.com); Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:02:32 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence Woods To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.8.5-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090201120232.CCH17591@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:02:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:02:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985d5b12723675314703 >From: Bob Whitmire > ... And then there was the completely unpublicized > yet-to-be-unveiled Harvard Monument to Manhood. If you had the lens pulled in to 24mm, and were very close to an object actually about six feet high, what you were facing was a replica of a water pump from the 1600's that was the college's water supply. The green fabric is its winter protective coat. In a far corner of Harvard Yard, in front of the Lamont Library, there is a Henry Moore bronze sculpture in a similar custom-tailored green covering. I have often thought of trying to take identical vantage point pictures of the sculpture with and without its winter garb, but haven't done so. Harvard Square in general is an easy place for street phototgraphy. People (mostly not Harvard Students) come to see and be seen. In her suburban high-school days, my daughter was part of that scene. Holding my breath must have worked, because she got through the phase without tattoos, piercings, or something worse. ----- Larry Woods lmwoods@rcn.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:06:11 2009 Received: (qmail 24470 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:06:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:06:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185B9430389 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414E744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BBB3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:06:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531D83610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:06:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.36]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEE00CQDCU1OMI1@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:06:01 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-222-177-49.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.177.49]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:06:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:06:07 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <2405EC198F8A4008AB3925CB37E11CE6@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEMAEdlhUkY3rEx/2dsb2JhbACBaIg9vGgHhA0G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,360,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="274409179" References: Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:06:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985d683280014673671140 Will Tom, Mr Schnozz and Dr Joel be heading over to Clear Lake, Iowa on Tuesday 3 February with their E and OM cameras to record the local scenery and to join the other attendees for the 50th anniversary of the day when the music died? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank van Lindert" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest >I sold my last OM MD2 a year ago ago because I unintentionally used it > on the OM-4Ti as if it was my E-400.... A 36-frame film was spent in > less than two minutes, and worst of all I had brought only one spare. > > One gets used so easily to digital cameras with almost unlimited > numbers of shots, that one forgets to be careful with film using the > OMs. > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:08:02 -0600, Ken Norton wrote: > >>..... >>3Ti light. My only problem with the MD2 is that it's so quick that if you >>happen to blink when the picture is taken you're not sure that you >>actually >>took a picture. Impressive. >>..... >>AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:14:15 2009 Received: (qmail 5812 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:14:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:14:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92062430397 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D901444004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47EF3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:14:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AFB3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:14:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so410279ywa.80 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:14:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.9.19 with SMTP id 19mr759139ani.8.1233508448662; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:14:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090201111139.CCH11473@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> References: <20090201111139.CCH11473@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:14:08 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f27d9bdfa85b3ee6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp (spiedie) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:14:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985d867232691035110158 > > Chuck - it seems we have a strange non-connection going. You > used to live in a town in Massachusetts next to mine, then > moved to the area in New York where my wife used to live. I > wonder what else we don't almost have in common? > Chuck and his wife have eaten a pizza dinner in Grinnell, Iowa. Have you? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:15:51 2009 Received: (qmail 11208 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:15:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2134302A8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A0444004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6181E3610009 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:15:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A0C3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:15:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201171542.OCTV22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:15:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9314D30A-539F-409A-943E-E457C140C49F@people.net.au> References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <9314D30A-539F-409A-943E-E457C140C49F@people.net.au> Message-Id: <4BCCC009-7419-49BA-999C-BE7263F7BD11@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:40 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:15:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985d8c724911073733319 On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > First one - last two. All leave me with questions. Was the huge black > woman begging? In those conditions? Is that and oxygen tube? And the > appeal raises the inevitable questions about self-inflicted wounds. She was begging. Said she wanted money for fuel, family of seven, "Emergency!" Her exact word. I gave her two bucks and asked if I could take her picture. She held up the two bucks I gave her. It is an oxygen tube, connected to a tank. I have no idea whether the tank actually had oxygen in it. I did not hear the customary sounds of oxygen being breathed from a tube, and I heard a lot of that while my COPD mother lived with us for a year and a half. But we were outside, and there was a lot of street noise. After I took the woman's picture, I reminded myself that I did not want to spend the day shooting pictures of the indigent, homeless, hapless or fraudulent. > What does the woman with the dog have emblazoned on he arse? That > whole image is a very interesting composition. As best I could tell, the, ah, emblazon was "Juicy Land." I did not get a front look. The dog's coat has a hood, too. I have more pictures of her and the dog, but the woman walking close in front of the camera added an element I sort of liked. "Interesting composition" about says it. > The graffito is odd but I am bothered by that monument - did you give > it the name or is it really called that - and it can't possibly be > what it resembles, surely! Alas, I must confess the smart-ass in my rose to the surface. I gave it the name. I have no idea what's under that cover, though when I came around the corner of a building and saw it I nearly was crippled by laughter. It took a good five minutes to get over myself. The notion of Harvard, ah, erecting a monument to, ah, manhood is just too preposterous to contemplate, though contemplate it I did. I promise to revisit the, ah, erection, in spring or summer and see what's really there. I did see a few other pieces under the same sort of green tarp, but they did not resemble anything recognizable. > While sneaky street shooting is an art, taking out a large lump of a > camera is more honest in many ways. It gives people a chance to say > no - or to engage with the camera - and it yells 'professional' > unlike a Leica. You've got some nice shots there - do it again, and > again. Thank you! I will. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:20:16 2009 Received: (qmail 30636 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:20:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:20:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51AE43038F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186A744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098E619EE2B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870FC19EE0F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201172009.BEOI22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:20:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> References: <49846645.1040609@tc.umn.edu> <49846B9B.6020408@chucknorcutt.com> <4984DCDE.2000401@chucknorcutt.com> <07AA2478-DEB4-4A99-A385-E0E0DA0AAF41@people.net.au> Message-Id: <226891D7-0DB7-4AD4-87E7-065ED1223DB7@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:20:07 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:20:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985d9d0284891529615919 On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > It seems to be a murkin and Argentine thing - lotsa meat (barbecued), > sauce and bread - forget the green stuff. Go on, admit it! How many > Barbecue threads have there been on this list? In my home state of North Carolina, if it ain't pig, it ain't barbecue. Traditionally served on a bun with fries and cole slaw, or as a platter (no bun) with fries, cole slaw and hush puppies. For those of you outside the territorial limits of the American Southeast, hush puppies are cornmeal, usually seasoned with onion and sometimes flecks of peppers, and dropped in a "dollop" in hot oil. The come out golden brown, slightly smaller than a golf ball, and they are food of the gods! Sometimes flecks of green dot the cole slaw. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:21:32 2009 Received: (qmail 2449 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:21:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:21:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264B7430394 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C8C44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D17F3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:21:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ABA3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:21:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp117.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp117.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.233]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 36403 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 17:21:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arctic.dapoz.ca) (md@99.224.154.42 with plain) by smtp117.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:21:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: xgLKctsVM1nTjj0ZTFcWQDXxIwZaz4YZ_g55oqlrSKvTrhm0J.2YPMU2Q2gBmb.2uQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4985DA14.4080402@dementia.org> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:21:24 -0500 From: Mark Dapoz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] ? about source for touchup paint X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:21:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985da1c318511823421471 GMcGrath@aol.com said the following on 2/1/09 11:55 AM: > I recall at some time in the past there was some info on the list about > touchup paint for camera bodies, specifically for lettering that had become > discolored or lost its original paint. I think paint sticks were mentioned. If > anyone has a source for this item now, I'd appreciate some info about it. You're probably thinking of lacquer sticks: https://www.micro-tools.com/store/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=L51120 They work well on small narrow engravings such as those found on the lens aperture ring but they won't work well on larger engravings such as the word OLYMPUS on the OM bodies. For those larger ones you need to use a high viscosity paint and drip it in. -mark -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:29:47 2009 Received: (qmail 22243 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D4B430394 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B244004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843773610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:29:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB91E3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201172940.JSYW5582.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:29:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:29:38 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:29:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985dc0b37149347015869 I'll give that a try the next time I'm in town. We went to a show in the theater district Saturday night, and because we were running late, we stopped in an Indian place called Tantric for a mess of appetizers and a drink. I told my cousin and her husband I was not going to have sex without my wife present, but they insisted on Tantric anyway. The appetizers were good, and I was not required to have sex. I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. Reminds me of my days in the army, when one of our favorite ways to pass the time was long discussions of "famous meals I have eaten." I had never had Mexican food until after I got out of the army in 1971, but I'd heard so much about it, that when I went on a cross-country trip in 1972, I started eating Mexican food in Colorado, found that it lived up to its billing and then some, and didn't stop. Still haven't. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:45 PM, usher99@aol.com wrote: > For something > different an Afghan place, The Helmand, (owned by Karzai's > brother) is > near Kendall Square---a several mile drive from where you were. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:32:45 2009 Received: (qmail 29171 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:32:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:32:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DAF430327 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1506444004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062FD19EEF8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:32:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8613519EEE2 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:32:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201173239.JUDQ5582.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:32:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <7A96771C-0A9A-4807-88CA-DB3CAA0530F0@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:32:37 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:32:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985dcbd84162336821329 Thanx! Like I told Andrew, I don't think it's what it looks like, but I couldn't swear to it. After all, it's Harvard. But I'll go back in the spring and find out. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:24 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > Love the reflections shot. and monument to manhood? is that what i > think it is? but why?! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:34:30 2009 Received: (qmail 821 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:34:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89A4430391 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5CE44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50EF3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:34:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239863610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:34:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201173424.UBNO6485.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:34:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49854C0D.1060100@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <49854C0D.1060100@gmail.com> Message-Id: <1B978BC2-D326-4018-89A8-68AA79EE06E6@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:34:22 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:34:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985dd2648471257536491 Thanx! I can't take credit for the composition. The woman in the foreground walked into the shot at the moment of truth. But then that turned out to be the shot I liked, too. Can't say enough for serendipity. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:15 AM, Marc Lawrence wrote: > Bob, I quite like this shot: > > http://www.bwp33.com/page6/files/page6-1014-full.html > > It's a whole lot of quite separated compositional elements put > together > nicely. The someone matching outfits on two of those elements don't > hurt > the image either. :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:36:06 2009 Received: (qmail 15359 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:36:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174F943037B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B22F44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7656A19EF10 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:35:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD4A19EF04 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:35:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 846 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 17:35:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp (spiedie) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:36:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985dd86137822046811720 Binghamton University is my Alma Mater as well. I graduated in 1968 after the GI bill was passed which allowed me to go back to school and finish my last 2 years. But this area is my wife's home territory, not mine. But it's also the cradle of IBM which has its origins here going back to the late 1800's. My wife's father was an IBM manager who started with the company back about 1935 and encouraged me to join up as well after I was discharged from the Air Force. I started working for IBM in 1965, took an educational leave, came back after graduation in 1968 and then, since IBM in those days meant "I've Been Moved", took transfers to Manassas, Virginia in 1971, Kingston, New York in 1975, Boca Raton, Florida in 1985 and retired there after 30 years in 1995. Then I took another job in 1995 at Programart (a mainframe system software performance analysis company in Cambridge, Massachusetts), lost that job in 2002 after the company was acquired by Compuware (who fired half the work force and especially the experienced people which destroyed the product). So from 2002 to 2004 I took a job as engineering design manager for Henschel in Newburyport, Massachusetts and lost that when the big technology downturn hit in 2004. Then (by happenstance) I apprenticed myself to a well known photographer in Concord, Massachusetts who also happened to be a former instructor at the New England School of Photography. He's a great teacher and I worked with him doing weddings, event photography, architecture, jewelry and art works for 3 years before really "retiring" and moving here. Sold the Boston house and moved back here where it's much cheaper to live. I was born in Battle Creek, Michigan, moved to Baldwin Park, California in high school, went to school in La Puente, California, joined the Air Force and spent time in San Antonio, Texas, Syracuse, New York (where the Air Force sent me to Syracuse Univ. where my wife was also a student), San Angelo, Texas, and Zweibrucken, Germany before returning to San Antonio and then to the Binghamton area. While working for IBM and the other companies named I actually lived in Endicott, Endwell, Apalachin and Woodstock, New York (yes, that Woodstock), Centreville, Virginia, Boca Raton, Florida and Woburn, Massachusetts. There. Did we cross paths anywhere else? :-) Chuck Norcutt Lawrence Woods wrote: >> From: Chuck Norcutt >> >> ... Spiedies are a local thing. >> > > My wife went to Binghamton University in the 1970's and > recalls spiedie as a lamb kabob sub sandwich available at many > but not all sub shops in the area. She does not remember the > Spiedie Festival. > > Chuck - it seems we have a strange non-connection going. You > used to live in a town in Massachusetts next to mine, then > moved to the area in New York where my wife used to live. I > wonder what else we don't almost have in common? > > > > > ----- Larry Woods > lmwoods@rcn.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:38:30 2009 Received: (qmail 12898 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:38:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C80643038F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665A944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5692119EF1E for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E6F19EF1D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:38:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201173823.JWNA5582.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:38:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:38:21 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:38:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985de1656138512572685 Please do! Can't wait to have a look. FWIW, I think what Nathan said about black and white in street photography is mostly true. All of my shots were RAW, and in color, and the B&W were conversions. I think they look okay on the web, but I'll have to print one or two and see what they look like. B&W does seem to bring out more of the essence of street shooting than color. --Bob www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > I did something similar this week, walking along Cromwell Road in > London, between hotel and work, doing shots that caught my fancy, > including the odd sneaky shot.. I'll see if I think it's worth > putting them up. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 18:42:07 2009 Received: (qmail 15941 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 17:42:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 17:42:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5A04302E0 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D4244004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A43A3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:42:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B45C3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:42:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3048 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 17:42:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 17:42:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4985DEE7.4080705@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:41:59 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090201111139.CCH11473@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> In-Reply-To: <20090201111139.CCH11473@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 01/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Forest carp (spiedie) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 18:42:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985deef234185368819438 Ooops. I forgot to address your spiedie questions. A true spiedie would indeed be made with lamb but these days they are available made with just about any kind of meat. Venison is particularly good since the oil in the marinade makes up for the leanness of the meat. Not much fat on deer. The Spiedie Fest didn't exist in the 70's. It wasn't started until 1983. Check the Wiki link <> Chuck Norcutt Lawrence Woods wrote: >> From: Chuck Norcutt >> >> ... Spiedies are a local thing. >> > > My wife went to Binghamton University in the 1970's and > recalls spiedie as a lamb kabob sub sandwich available at many > but not all sub shops in the area. She does not remember the > Spiedie Festival. > > Chuck - it seems we have a strange non-connection going. You > used to live in a town in Massachusetts next to mine, then > moved to the area in New York where my wife used to live. I > wonder what else we don't almost have in common? > > > > > ----- Larry Woods > lmwoods@rcn.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 19:08:21 2009 Received: (qmail 12088 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 18:08:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 18:08:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12ACD43038D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B090F44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE473610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:08:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959FE3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:08:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:08:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201180805.HTYI21987.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:08:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> References: <3CF168F8-C1C8-4A35-9ADC-8FDBF833F707@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:08:03 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 4: streets of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 19:08:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985e515284509347015869 First and last. Love the antiques market, and the exuberance of the = two women. The naked manikins come in third. I can't wait for summer = to come here so I can do some fair and flea market shooting. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > This was a good week, with lots of photos and a new lens which I > already like very much--the 3.8/24mm Elmar. Of course I had to > thoroughly test it, and my approach to testing involves just going out > in the streets and taking pictures. If I like the results, the lens is > deemed good. There are also tapas and many se=F1oritas (and se=F1oras, I > guess): > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=3D183 -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 19:10:58 2009 Received: (qmail 18690 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 18:10:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 18:10:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D65430321 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A30044004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFE619F0B4 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:10:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18DF19F0AE for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:10:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201181051.PACK22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:10:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201100148.02382df8@zuik.net> References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090201100148.02382df8@zuik.net> Message-Id: <7E250E19-4490-47C4-BFFC-F3139ADF8283@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:10:48 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 19:10:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985e5b2189831993019900 I feel the same way. I was prepared to tell anyone who asked that I was a landscape photographer operating outside the comfort zone, but no one asked. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:22 AM, ws wrote: > I'm always self-conscious about being invasive with a camera. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 19:14:03 2009 Received: (qmail 31210 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 18:14:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 18:14:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C469E43039C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7F744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941C03610009 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:13:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E450A3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:13:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201181355.KKFY5582.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:13:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090201120232.CCH17591@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> References: <20090201120232.CCH17591@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Message-Id: <61532D13-2458-49A0-B279-818381E7E20B@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:13:52 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 19:14:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985e66b294189117217770 I checked the NEF file, and I shot at 32mm. I'm sure you're right. Water pump never crossed my mind. The alternative was just too obvious. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Lawrence Woods wrote: > If you had the lens pulled in to 24mm, and were very close to > an object actually about six feet high, what you were facing > was a replica of a water pump from the 1600's that was the > college's water supply. The green fabric is its winter > protective coat. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 19:25:20 2009 Received: (qmail 14602 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 18:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 18:25:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AE1430389 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2010844004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C523610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:25:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D05E3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:25:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.23]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [123.255.58.53] (53.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.53]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5303C3DBB6B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:24:59 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:24:57 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090131-0, 31/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] (OM) Off-topic: Re: 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 19:25:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985e910317041744846740 Hi all, Thanks very much for all the info and comment. I won't be buying a new computer any time soon, for a variety of reasons including the many programs I have so painstakingly installed on the present machine. The sole reason I need more GB is for image storage; not least due to having bought an E-510. And if I take this to the extreme and start shooting RAW, I'll need even more storage ... My investment lately for goals that are at least in part photographic include a red (wash your mouth out Brian) SUV that should be able to take me over hilly / mountains and off-road places especially when it is snowy. See it here in an image taken from the auction site http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=316914&l=b74de&id=1027725807 12 years old, and at a tad over $7,000 NZ, I saved $120,000 (that I didn't have then) by not buying it 12 years ago. It's called recycling (which is what I do to computers). Next, I have sent a 30-years old Schneider Super Angulon 90mm lens to Australia to have a custom made 6 x 17 body with focussing helical, fitted to it. Remember this? http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~razzle/Obsession_617/obsession_617.html It should arrive in Melbourne this week, if it has not arrived already. Recycling, again :-)) And I have just bought a Koni-Omega 180 f/4 lens on the Bay, and sent one of my KOM bodies to Greg Weber in Fremont NE for servicing. More recycling ... It's all go, I tell you ! Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 19:29:22 2009 Received: (qmail 22337 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 18:29:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 18:29:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42E343037B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A6944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6EC19F10B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:29:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB24719F153 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E943140C2 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277A93140BF for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:56:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4985E9FF.2050700@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:29:19 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 19:29:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985ea02320517927319144 > > I am totally mystified as to what computer gear I should have to run one or more hard drives of 500GB and (a lot ) more...... > (a)How did you format them? > > (b)How do you get your O/S to recognise and work with them? > > Brian Swale. Brian, You are limited by a hardware issue, the motherboard. (not the OS) There is a very small chance that you could flash the BIOS to an updated version but I doubt it. This must be a really old mb in computer years. You are stuck with the 137 limit and the only way around it is to split the drive into partitions as someone mentioned. A PITA. Don't use FAT32. Frankly, I wouldn't even do that. If you really must keep this box just get a 120gb or 160gb drive which will seem like tons of space after the 40gb drive. You could even get 2 or 3 of these drives but that isn't cost effective unless you get pulls from other computers as they upgrade. But I wouldn't risk my photos to 2nd hand drives. IMO any pesos spent on this machine would be better spent on a new computer. Around here $350 will get you a barebones system that will run circles around the one you have plus take out the garbage and feed the dog :-) Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 19:50:51 2009 Received: (qmail 25454 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 18:50:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 18:50:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD0B430328 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29CE44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CCB361000A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:50:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE773610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:50:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1149227wfd.26 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr1468615wfb.64.1233514244740; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2405EC198F8A4008AB3925CB37E11CE6@hudson> References: <2405EC198F8A4008AB3925CB37E11CE6@hudson> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:50:44 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902011050k422902ackc6a985dbf02a83c3@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 19:50:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985ef0b139031257536491 Doggonit John, I'm going to have to do it some time, but not this year. Unfortunately for me, even though it's within the state, it's about 5 or 6 hours away, and I'm driving not flying there, thanks much. Schnozz is too young to appreciate, and I almost am (I only became aware of Buddy Holly at a point at which his music sounded passe to my young ears). I just read a nice appreciation of Buddy the other day by Keith Richard, who said there were two great influences -- Elvis and Buddy -- but Buddy looked like a library clerk, so it was a little easier to hope to be Buddy than Elvis. I'm glad Keith is still alive as he has become such a cipher to the age, though I have to say it looks like he's actually been dead for a while. Not nice, I know, but with respect it was his music among others that put me off both Buddy and Elvis. As for Elvis, I'm afraid he died when he went into the army. It was never the same. Hey, didn't we have a rancorous thread about all this last year, Mr. Hudson, you troublemaker! ;^) Joel W. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM, John Hudson wrote: > Will Tom, Mr Schnozz and Dr Joel be heading over to Clear Lake, Iowa on > Tuesday 3 February with their E and OM cameras to record the local scenery > and to join the other attendees for the 50th anniversary of the day when the > music died? > > jh -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:13:38 2009 Received: (qmail 16737 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:13:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0EE430397 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7457444004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D0A3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBFF3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4859 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 19:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:18:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985f56f6361234514069 > From: Dean Hansen > > I don't mind sounding > heartless--40-50 deer per square mile of forest have an absolutely > devastating effect on pine and oak regeneration... > Dean (who's definitely NOT a PETA member) If we're really talking "ethical treatment of animals" here, then I = think culling is the proper thing to do. Or better yet, bring back the = top predators! In Yellowstone, streams and riparian areas were in trouble. Banks were = eroding, causing excessive silt, causing loss of fish habitat, causing = reductions in eagles and osprey. No one really knew why. Then, quite independently and for entirely different reasons, wolves = were re-introduced. The stream health mysteriously improved, and fish = increased, as did fish-eating predators and scavengers. The key was that the ungulates (moose, deer, elk) had been standing = around in one place without fear, eating new streamside vegetation to = the ground, not giving it a chance to re-grow. Once the wolves were re- = introduced, the ungulates became wary, and kept moving around, and = streamside vegetation (especially willows and other quick-growing, = water-loving perennials) came back. The lovely thing about this is that it eventually becomes better for = the ungulates, as well. A dense streamside thicket is a much safer = from predators than an eroded, cleared bank. A similar situation exists in the Olympics, and ecologists want to re- = introduce wolves there, but local opposition is strong. This has been a hard winter here. There was deep snow cover for longer = than deer can live without food. I counted six starved deer in less = than a quarter square kilometre. We'd find them in the brush and drag = them out into the fields for the eagles, who had a feast. (Requisite = on-topic info: no, didn't get any pictures of the eagles.) Dean, you can come over here and shoot all the deer you want. Although = I'm a vegetarian, I'd rather feed the deer to the eagles, who will = then leave our chickens alone. It's more ethical to cull the heard = than to let them die of starvation. We meddle in natural systems at our own peril. :::: Look at the suite of technologies used by a person or a culture, = and it=92s an easy matter to divine the values that person or that = culture holds and the goals they pursue. This is unmentionable in our = culture, because the values and goals our technologies reveal to the = world are a very long ways indeed from the ones we claim to embrace. = -- John Michael Greer :::: :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:21:14 2009 Received: (qmail 8362 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:21:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:21:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B14303AB for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDCE44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE56819F3DD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:21:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7583319F3CA for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:21:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1155633wfd.26 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:21:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr1477724wfb.64.1233516067103; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:21:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090201082112.0114b068@zuik.net> References: <200901282140.n0SLeABc013051@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9e908c1f0901281401n56a4adc4r3c5a8e632b1eaf25@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090201082112.0114b068@zuik.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:21:07 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902011121p15617fa4k52257229bad00c47@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Latest Combination X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:21:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985f62a152401838542571 On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:40 AM, ws <> wrote: > Nice shots. This area reminds me more of northern Missourah > with rolling hills than the flat Iowa I remember. Northern Missouri and southern Iowa look like two peas in a pod. Ken and I saw a couple flat areas yesterday, but not many. Eastern Iowa goes up and down enough to make a farmer wish he'd bought a farm somewhere else until the crop is in and he's spending the money. I don't get how people call Iowa flat unless they just mean there aren't mountains here. Perhaps a sea of corn and/or soybeans creates the optical illusion of actual flatness. It's also possible that my photos are misleading too in the sense that I like hills and undulations. I included at least one photo of a very flat field and I could have found many others here and there. I also like a short telephoto as a landscape lense and so my photos probably show some compression of the undulations. > In December we traveled home to Kansas City, the airport > is out in the country and surrounded by farmland. I was > surprised by the number of hawks we counted on the way to > Independence. > > I would assume there are similar populations of hawks in Iowa? > But I wonder if all the chemical usage has an affect on birds, > rodents and other wildlife there? They're all over the place. Not sure how anhydrous affects non-aquatic wildlife, but the eagles have come back very strong so far. I saw my first one flying down the river only 15 years ago and yesterday, as Ken said, we saw 50 in one location. Redtail hawks are common as dirt. There was one living on top of the gold dome of the historical capitol building on the University of Iowa campus. Squirrels were less plentiful for a while on that part of the campus. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:25:12 2009 Received: (qmail 23941 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:25:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD2343039F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3A844004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B3B3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832DC3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 17 days 12:24:41 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299972B316C8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z7yxoDIFla6T for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019FE2B316B7 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:25:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4DD54464-DE08-4B76-BA9A-AE761330257D@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:24:59 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] Deer fencing [was: Latest Combination] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:25:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985f718298591869477228 > From: Mike Lazzari > >> > The only way to fence a garden is with > a 6'+ fence with a stand of wire off set horizontally at the top. WILL PAY SHIPPING FOR OLD CDs AND DVDs! We string these up on our top wire (actually, polypro baling twine). It really keeps the deer away. I've seen them try to jump a 6' fence with a top wire, only to get tangled on the wire they couldn't clearly see. The CDs flashing and moving in the wind are a good deterrent. So if you have a stack of these things piled up in some corner, I'll take 'em. 80-grit sandpaper does a great job of read-protection if you have stuff on there you don't want to share. :::: Freedom of the commons brings ruin to all. -- Garrett Hardin :::: :::: Jan Steinman (a fossil-fuel free zone!) :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:29:38 2009 Received: (qmail 31140 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:29:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020E54303A1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FD544004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9573610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB513610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 17 days 12:29:08 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A132B31720 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YUs2gg5h5eW9 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629602B31711 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <22CC7B54-DC2C-47D8-A227-EE851CD32E4E@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:29:21 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:29:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985f822296241744846740 > From: "Brian Swale" > > I am totally mystified as to what computer > gear I should have to run one or more hard drives of 500GB and (a > lot ) > more. Any Macintosh back to 1997 or so. (Sorry, couldn't resist... :-) :::: Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the human race. - H.G. Wells :::: :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:32:47 2009 Received: (qmail 30212 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:32:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E701A430378 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C824A44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B792B19F430 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:32:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2334719F42D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:32:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12026 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 19:32:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 19:32:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4985F8D7.3050605@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:32:39 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:32:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985f8df92121234514069 Well, in that case, next time you're passing through Vernon, Texas be sure to stop here You woundn't know it from the sign but it's great mexican chow. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > > I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. > Reminds me of my days in the army, when one of our favorite ways to > pass the time was long discussions of "famous meals I have eaten." I > had never had Mexican food until after I got out of the army in 1971, > but I'd heard so much about it, that when I went on a cross-country > trip in 1972, I started eating Mexican food in Colorado, found that > it lived up to its billing and then some, and didn't stop. Still > haven't. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:39:59 2009 Received: (qmail 30676 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:39:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:39:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC36430391 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36C944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D553610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DB73610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14227 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 19:39:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 19:39:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4985FA85.2020108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:39:49 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Off-topic: Re: 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:39:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985fa8f214041234514069 I like your "investments". But let's probe a little deeper on the computer if you've decided you're not going to upgrade the machine. What version of Windows are you running... I know it's XP but what service pack do you have installed? Does the machine have a USB 2 port... not just USB but USB 2.0. Chuck Norcutt Brian Swale wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks very much for all the info and comment. > > I won't be buying a new computer any time soon, for a variety of reasons > including the many programs I have so painstakingly installed on the present > machine. > > The sole reason I need more GB is for image storage; not least due to > having bought an E-510. And if I take this to the extreme and start shooting > RAW, I'll need even more storage ... > > My investment lately for goals that are at least in part photographic include a > red (wash your mouth out Brian) SUV that should be able to take me over > hilly / mountains and off-road places especially when it is snowy. > > See it here in an image taken from the auction site > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=316914&l=b74de&id=1027725807 > > 12 years old, and at a tad over $7,000 NZ, I saved $120,000 (that I didn't > have then) by not buying it 12 years ago. It's called recycling (which is what I > do to computers). > > Next, I have sent a 30-years old Schneider Super Angulon 90mm lens to > Australia to have a custom made 6 x 17 body with focussing helical, fitted to > it. > > Remember this? > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~razzle/Obsession_617/obsession_617.html > > It should arrive in Melbourne this week, if it has not arrived already. > Recycling, again :-)) > > And I have just bought a Koni-Omega 180 f/4 lens on the Bay, and sent one > of my KOM bodies to Greg Weber in Fremont NE for servicing. > More recycling ... > > It's all go, I tell you ! > > Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:40:31 2009 Received: (qmail 25716 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:40:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C45843032A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5259744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406863610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233523610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 17 days 12:39:29 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA64F2B318DB for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UFDLuPC6Fp0 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44252B318CC for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <8F4363CE-013D-4091-8CF4-2CB2033B2A42@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:39:31 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:40:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985faaf127671234514069 > From: Chuck Norcutt > > Help the economy. Buy a new system. Help the ecology. Keep your old system running as long as possible. (Brought to you from a five-year-old Power Mac, my "daily driver," that runs everything I need to run -- including Aperture and Photoshop -- as fast as I need to run it. What do they call a five-year-old PC? Landfill!) :::: On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. -- Charles Babbage :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 20:58:03 2009 Received: (qmail 6371 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 19:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 19:58:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8496243039F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F19944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE51819F4E5 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469F119F4A5 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 17 days 12:57:33 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8E92B31D8B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nlmTXVG5mqHh for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CD52B31D7C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <81B386F1-8FA0-4A6A-89C0-A11E5812323D@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 11:57:51 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 20:58:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985fecb164643675314703 > From: Chuck Norcutt > > Drives spend much of their time trying to find and get to the > data and not too much on the actual data transfer time once they've > found it... That is especially so on a multi-tasking computer > where other processes may be vying for use of the same drive and > disrupting the smooth streaming of data with demands for the read/ > write > head to move somewhere else on the drive. There is no "instantaneous > transfer" going on while the heads are bounding hither and yon between > tracks. Buffering and caching, both in the drive, and in the OS, mitigate a great deal of seek time and rotational latency. The fastest drives -- designed for video and audio production -- not only have 10,000 rpm spindle speeds (to reduce latency), but also have larger buffer caches. But this costs money. The newest drives, with capacities of 750GB and up, employ "vertical recording," where more than one bit is recorded for any given location on the disk. This means the transfer speed off the platter is essentially doubled. So if you're interested in speed, don't mess with anything below 750GB. :::: Hydrogen power will dramatically reduce greenhouse gas admissions. -- George W. Bush :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:01:28 2009 Received: (qmail 9183 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:01:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:01:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC554303B1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F77E44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CB23610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:01:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DB33610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:01:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYC15597 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:02:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:01:20 -0800 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:01:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4985ff98190189117217770 On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > > I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on two of my favourite things, food, and photos. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&id=6313229 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&id=6313229 Usually end up eating more than photoing, hence only two galleries. Rest have more ppl than food, the former dispatching the latter in short order. An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:07:41 2009 Received: (qmail 26210 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:07:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95827430312 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D682A44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C553D3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:07:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.572 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10=0.572, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBE53610009 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:07:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21973 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2009 20:07:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.150.204) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:07:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> Message-Id: <036C4575-055F-4C5B-ACB3-5C3206109E76@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:07:27 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Off-topic: Re: 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:07:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986010d47951073733319 That's not an SUV - nothing much 'sporty' about it! It's a real 4WD with a chassis and stuff although a bit more refined than the original design. You will have the feeling that you can drive over anything that gets in your way. The most comfortable vehicle I ever owned. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/02/2009, at 5:24 AM, Brian Swale wrote: > My investment lately for goals that are at least in part > photographic include a > red (wash your mouth out Brian) SUV that should be able to take me > over > hilly / mountains and off-road places especially when it is snowy. > > See it here in an image taken from the auction site > http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=316914&l=b74de&id=1027725807 > > 12 years old, and at a tad over $7,000 NZ, I saved $120,000 (that I > didn't > have then) by not buying it 12 years ago. It's called recycling > (which is what I > do to computers). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:11:23 2009 Received: (qmail 21920 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:11:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:11:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C5E43039A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEB044004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:11:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CCC3610009 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:11:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D97A3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25784 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 20:11:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:11:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498601eb112642336821329 As well as seek path optimization but that can run afoul of task priority. Determining when system optimization is really sub-optimal at another level gets dicey. Chuck Norcutt Jan Steinman wrote: > > Buffering and caching, both in the drive, and in the OS, mitigate a > great deal of seek time and rotational latency. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:12:51 2009 Received: (qmail 32068 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:12:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487844303AE for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811AB44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AC33610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25EE3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:12:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26186 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 20:12:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:12:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49860243193309347015869 Uh, oh. Requires log-in. Don't got. Chuck Norcutt siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >> >> >> I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. > > > OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, > nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on > two of my favourite things, food, and photos. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&id=6313229 > > Usually end up eating more than photoing, hence only two galleries. > Rest have more ppl than food, the former dispatching the latter in > short order. > > An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:15:31 2009 Received: (qmail 19756 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:15:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:15:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9386E430397 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D88B44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF2D3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F404E3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGQ15640 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49860230.2070501@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:15:21 -0800 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> <49860230.2070501@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:15:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498602e3218421470116606 What? I thought I made them public. Stand by. Sorry. On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Uh, oh. Requires log-in. Don't got. > > Chuck Norcutt > > siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: >> On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >>> >>> >>> I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. >> >> >> OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, >> nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on >> two of my favourite things, food, and photos. >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&id=6313229 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&id=6313229 >> >> Usually end up eating more than photoing, hence only two galleries. >> Rest have more ppl than food, the former dispatching the latter in >> short order. >> >> An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:18:36 2009 Received: (qmail 27729 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:18:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:18:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2284303A7 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64DB44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC94D3610009 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDBC3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGQ16004 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <85699667-2E25-4774-BC60-FB1881E92D21@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:18:28 -0800 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:18:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986039c146574673671140 OK chaps, try now? On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:01 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >> >> >> I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. > > > OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, > nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on > two of my favourite things, food, and photos. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&id=6313229 > > Usually end up eating more than photoing, hence only two galleries. > Rest have more ppl than food, the former dispatching the latter in > short order. > > An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:28:49 2009 Received: (qmail 22729 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:28:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152F54303B4 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748D644004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5514919F5D6 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACD919F5CA for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGQ17595 (AUTH siddiq); Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <9EFCA085-60A6-4028-96A5-F11FF3E08BBF@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <85699667-2E25-4774-BC60-FB1881E92D21@ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:28:34 -0800 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> <85699667-2E25-4774-BC60-FB1881E92D21@ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Cc: Chuck Norcutt Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:28:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498606015957927319144 OK, third time's the charm. many apologies, feel terribly stupid. copied the wrong URL.. haven't had breakfast yet, that's my alibi. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 Just checked both, after logging out from fb, and it worked. so it should work for you all. if it doesn't I'll cry :( On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:18 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > OK chaps, try now? > > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:01 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > >> >> On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >>> >>> >>> I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. >> >> >> OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, >> nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on >> two of my favourite things, food, and photos. >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&id=6313229 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&id=6313229 >> >> Usually end up eating more than photoing, hence only two galleries. >> Rest have more ppl than food, the former dispatching the latter in >> short order. >> >> An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:36:06 2009 Received: (qmail 31417 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:36:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FB34303A2 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572C744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5F119F6BE for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:36:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44C219F663 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:35:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2260 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 20:35:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:36:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498607b6157578512572685 Fun. It was worth the wait. No need to cry. Chuck Norcutt siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > OK, third time's the charm. many apologies, feel terribly stupid. > copied the wrong URL.. haven't had breakfast yet, that's my alibi. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 > > > Just checked both, after logging out from fb, and it worked. so it > should work for you all. if it doesn't I'll cry :( -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 21:45:04 2009 Received: (qmail 5498 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 20:45:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 20:45:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF78430391 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348B944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176B03610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:44:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A603610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:44:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5388 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 20:44:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Feb 2009 20:44:56 -0000 Message-ID: <498609C7.9080102@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:44:55 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <2D7CCACA-732D-4528-83B7-4FDECF8FB064@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <2D7CCACA-732D-4528-83B7-4FDECF8FB064@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Tetons and the Snake River, calling Moose and PhotoShoppers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 21:45:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498609d0228702046811720 I wondered why I hadn't gotten any response to the following until I realized it was sent only to Nathan rather than the list. So I'll repeat part of what I said here with respect to my Tetons image. -------------------------------------------------- The display of this image has caused me some consternation. The web image was created by BreezeBrowser but does not looks as crisp or saturated as the original TIFF image displayed by BreezeBrowser's "slide show" function even though I would think it was the same code generating both images from the overly large original. Secondly, the smaller image of the river bend and boat cropped out of the full size image had dramatically reduced saturation and contrast compared to the display of the image it was derived from. As you see it on my site it has been somewhat pumped up so as not to look dramatically different... but it did. This is close to the largest image i have ever worked with (over 6000 pixels high and wide) and I wonder if the problem is that resizing something that large down to a visible screen size during editing leads to an unnatural display of contrast and saturation. When sharpening an image for print it's necessary to display the image at about 25-35% to get a good impression of how the on screen sharpening will actually look on paper. I wonder if the same sort of thing is required when editing pixel brightness. If the image is huge and too many pixels are averaged during the resizing to fit the screen do we lose the sense of the real color and brightness levels? I've never read anything about that. I may have to do some experimentation. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 22:30:52 2009 Received: (qmail 29868 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 21:30:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 21:30:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7C4430398 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD85C44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEC519F89B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1EF19F898 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201213045.KZVI21987.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:30:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:30:42 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 22:30:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986148c234471946193717 Won't let me on. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:01 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >> >> >> I love how photography threads so often morph into food threads. > > > OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, > nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on > two of my favourite things, food, and photos. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&id=6313229 > > Usually end up eating more than photoing, hence only two galleries. > Rest have more ppl than food, the former dispatching the latter in > short order. > > An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 22:32:45 2009 Received: (qmail 24703 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 21:32:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 21:32:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDC843039B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1350F44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027D83610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:32:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705AF3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:32:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201213238.SGSU22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:32:38 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9EFCA085-60A6-4028-96A5-F11FF3E08BBF@ucr.edu> References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> <85699667-2E25-4774-BC60-FB1881E92D21@ucr.edu> <9EFCA085-60A6-4028-96A5-F11FF3E08BBF@ucr.edu> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:32:35 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 22:32:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498614fd291931529615919 Got it. Food good. Pictures, good. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:28 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > OK, third time's the charm. many apologies, feel terribly stupid. > copied the wrong URL.. haven't had breakfast yet, that's my alibi. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 22:34:27 2009 Received: (qmail 18546 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 21:34:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 21:34:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C50430392 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B43144004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E52119F8A1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:34:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D3619F898 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:34:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090201213421.LYSF23506.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:34:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498609C7.9080102@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <2D7CCACA-732D-4528-83B7-4FDECF8FB064@frozenlight.eu> <498609C7.9080102@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:34:18 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Tetons and the Snake River, calling Moose and PhotoShoppers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 22:34:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49861563204471234514069 One of my favorite places in the world. Jenny Lake. Those semi- vertical trails. Hurricane Pass. Ah! Somewhere I have boxes of old slides from a big Teton trip back in the mid-70s. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I wondered why I hadn't gotten any response to the following until I > realized it was sent only to Nathan rather than the list. So I'll > repeat part of what I said here with respect to my Tetons image. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 22:49:09 2009 Received: (qmail 30841 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 21:49:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 21:49:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287664303DA for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C614544004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAECB19F8C4 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:49:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F3919F898 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:49:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1185727wfd.26 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:49:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.157.12 with SMTP id j12mr1515466wfo.228.1233524941285; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:49:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9EFCA085-60A6-4028-96A5-F11FF3E08BBF@ucr.edu> References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> <85699667-2E25-4774-BC60-FB1881E92D21@ucr.edu> <9EFCA085-60A6-4028-96A5-F11FF3E08BBF@ucr.edu> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:49:01 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902011349w45088c45m8dab6bbc6e5d9168@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 22:49:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498618d5221662046811720 On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > OK, third time's the charm. many apologies, feel terribly stupid. > copied the wrong URL.. haven't had breakfast yet, that's my alibi. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 Those galleries are quite interesting taken as a whole. I sense that they are also enjoyable to the persons featured in them. They are natural to a gathering of friends and almost documentary-like. I wish some of the faces were not lost in shadows at times, but it's not inconsistent to the lighting and how it might have looked being there. Correct for the venue, I'd say. :) The sashimi is beautiful. My Japanese mother-in-law won't eat it, so I don't eat it. I figure she knows something ... My New Year's Day soup was so beautiful in the bowl that I took a photo of it. I have half a mind now to show everybody ... Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 23:21:24 2009 Received: (qmail 28308 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 22:21:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 22:21:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE9C43039B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864E144004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7340919F94B for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:21:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F6E19F947 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:21:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7572 invoked by uid 504); 1 Feb 2009 22:21:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Tetons and the Snake River, calling Moose and PhotoShoppers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 23:21:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49862064274378512572685 I didn't even know Jenny Lake existed until you mentioned it. We spent = most of 2 days in Yellowstone but pretty much breezed trough Grand Teton = only stopping long enough to get this photo of the Snake River and the = Tetons as well as another set on Jackson Lake. You can't see Jenny Lake = in this photo but if you draw a line through the river between the two = bends that line would pass just about through the center of Jenny Lake = about 4-5 miles away. I anyone would like to know where this photo was = taken it's: N 43=B0 45.257 W 110=B0 37.445 For Ansel Adams devotees see Ansel Adams Photo Hunt Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > One of my favorite places in the world. Jenny Lake. Those semi- = > vertical trails. Hurricane Pass. Ah! Somewhere I have boxes of old = > slides from a big Teton trip back in the mid-70s. > = > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > = > = > On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:44 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > = >> I wondered why I hadn't gotten any response to the following until I >> realized it was sent only to Nathan rather than the list. So I'll >> repeat part of what I said here with respect to my Tetons image. >> -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 1 23:59:21 2009 Received: (qmail 8800 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 22:59:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 22:59:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7824303F3 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5118744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BA119E74F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:59:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F80D19F898 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:59:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 14:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so1615929qyk.14 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.214.12.19 with SMTP id 19mr808093qal.187.1233529153463; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from DSPT60 (mail.saint-marys.edu [216.174.58.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm4890218yxl.40.2009.02.01.14.59.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:59:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Sepke" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:59:11 -0500 Message-ID: <49862940.e203be0a.6955.77d5@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmECY17K8s7VnrQT52SSyFQopZH4gAtezZQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 1 23:59:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986294941971035110158 Ken, You may wish to consider the Pano Elements kit from RRS as it can do double duty as a gimble mount. RRS used to show the setup on their site but seem to have taken it down now. It works by mounting the MPR-CLII rail vertically with the clamp at the top holding the panning base. The lens is then mounted on the panning base by its tripod ring. I found the setup worked quite well for occasional use with my Tamron 70-350mm f4.5 (which is close to as large as 300mm f2.8). Plus you then have one of the nicest setups for pano stitching. Dan S. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Norton Subject: [OM] Iowa Wintertime Zuikofest Ken's rule of Lens Lust: No matter how big your biggest lens is, somebody will come along with a bigger one. One guy showed up with some Canon Uber-lens big enough that it probably needs its own car. Oh, I'm convinced of my next tripod-head purchase. That Wimberly head is just way too cool. How do I convince the CDFO I need it, though? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 00:23:35 2009 Received: (qmail 32766 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 23:23:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 23:23:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6F74303E1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087E44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D133610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:23:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0C93610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:23:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AhSp1b03N0QkzPwA1nPWFb; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:23:30 +0000 Received: from SpongeBob ([24.4.5.181]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id AnNt1b0093uLCT48NnPWAP; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:23:30 +0000 From: "Jay Drew" To: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:22:58 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c984c4$0bfdab00$6400a8c0@SpongeBob> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: [OM] Question on use of OM adaptall2 on a 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 00:23:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49862ef720643675314703 Just as an afterthought, the Adapatall is not the only device an OM-4/T should fear. The Vivitar 90-180 Series 1 lens will also need to be Walterized. Jay Hand me my costume Please won't you pass me my mask I have appointments I must keep with my past. Bill Nelson - Beauty Secrets -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 00:57:31 2009 Received: (qmail 7348 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2009 23:57:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Feb 2009 23:57:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FAC4303E8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187C944004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C53610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:57:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA533610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:57:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so476899tia.10 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.110.57.5 with SMTP id f5mr5399505tia.4.1233532644155; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-220-35.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.220.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8sm7765919tia.8.2009.02.01.15.57.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:57:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498636DA.4060804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:57:14 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <49854C0D.1060100@gmail.com> <1B978BC2-D326-4018-89A8-68AA79EE06E6@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <1B978BC2-D326-4018-89A8-68AA79EE06E6@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 00:57:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498636eb102791993019900 Bob Whitmire wrote: > ... Can't say enough for serendipity. Gees, Bob, you and your fancy art talk words. Cartier-Bresson just said, "Of course it's all luck". ;-) Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 01:28:11 2009 Received: (qmail 23174 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 00:28:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 00:28:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F404303B6 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2BD44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B863610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:28:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C0C3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:28:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.23]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 16:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [123.255.58.192] (192.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.192]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0CF3DB366 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:27:56 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:27:56 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4986F4DC.20798.BBF167@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 01/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] (OM) Candid photography; examples from Brian Brake (deceased) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 01:28:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49863e1b159751993019900 Hi all, I have just uploaded 10 of Brian Brake's photos re-photographed with E-1 and Z 50/3.5 from the books I mentioned a few days ago. Here they are. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=16185&l=01a83&id=1027725807 For at least the first of the two source volumes he used Leica and Nikon F cameras - with one exception; an XA which was told to me by the subject. I will take these images down in about 3 days' time. I await with interest for the comments which should be forthcoming. I know these are quick and imperfect copies; but it is technique in candid photography we are to learn about from them. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 05:14:41 2009 Received: (qmail 4765 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 04:14:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 04:14:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402CF4303F4 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD63A44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EC93610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:14:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35F83610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:14:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.113]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n124EUnO021526 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:14:31 +1100 Message-Id: <200902020414.n124EUnO021526@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail08.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:14:30 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:14:30 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 05:14:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498673312417350615338 > Marc Lawrence <> wrote: > > Gees, Bob, you and your fancy art talk words. Cartier-Bresson just said, > > "Of course it's all luck". ;-) > Was it him that said "the more I practise, the luckier I get" also ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 05:17:16 2009 Received: (qmail 26072 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A734303FD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888E44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15893610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2004C3610006 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.113]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n124H9ZU026478 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:09 +1100 Message-Id: <200902020417.n124H9ZU026478@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail08.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:17:09 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:17:09 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Candid photography; examples from Brian Brake (deceased) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 05:17:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498673cc230471993019900 > Brian Swale wrote: > > I know these are quick and imperfect copies; but it is technique in > candid > photography we are to learn about from them. > I wonder how that razzle will work for street photography Brian ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 05:20:06 2009 Received: (qmail 20707 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 04:20:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 04:20:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2011430404 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E780744004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F253610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:20:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2925F3610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:20:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1280469wfd.26 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.239.11 with SMTP id m11mr1652891wfh.156.1233548399807; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-220-35.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.220.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm5135008wfg.28.2009.02.01.20.19.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49867466.5010605@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:19:50 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902020414.n124EUnO021526@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200902020414.n124EUnO021526@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 05:20:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49867476293171035110158 Wayne Harridge wrote: > Was it him that said "the more I practise, the luckier I get" also ? Google seems to attribute it to Arnold Palmer or Gary Player, for a different type of shot. Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 06:07:13 2009 Received: (qmail 18882 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 05:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 05:07:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED87430406 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB91844004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:07:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9760019FE9F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:07:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E81C19FE84 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:07:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24319 invoked by uid 502); 2 Feb 2009 05:07:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.162.248) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 05:07:04 -0000 Message-ID: <49867F70.20504@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:06:56 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902020414.n124EUnO021526@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200902020414.n124EUnO021526@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 06:07:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49867f8166574673671140 Wayne Harridge wrote: > > Was it him that said "the more ... > Should that not read "Was it he that said "the more ..."? Certainly "Was he the one who said ...?" is correct and "Was him the one who said ...?" is not. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 06:10:16 2009 Received: (qmail 15335 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 05:10:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 05:10:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6B94303DE for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFF044004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279FB3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:10:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6903610009 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:10:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so461915ywa.80 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:10:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.164.12 with SMTP id m12mr2485799ane.144.1233551408874; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:10:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:10:08 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 094efaf01dadb12d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 06:10:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49868038281461470116606 This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on Saturday during the outing with Joel. No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed yet. That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's success rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. Same place as usual: www.zone-10.com AG-Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 06:19:43 2009 Received: (qmail 31081 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 05:19:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 05:19:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE594303E8 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695B544004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A91819FEC1 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:19:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B819FEBD for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:19:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27675 invoked by uid 502); 2 Feb 2009 05:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.162.248) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 05:19:35 -0000 Message-ID: <49868263.6000308@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:19:31 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> In-Reply-To: <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 06:19:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986826e11351257536491 siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just snapshots, nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. You just hit on two of my favourite things, food, and photos. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 > > A fun excursion, thanks. I hadn't realized until now that Nico had most likely learned f the list from you. "Only snapshots" means it's ok to enhance them so the faces of you and your friends are more clearly visible, no? So what if the source of the light isn't clear. Maybe you used fill flash - or carried abound a large, white wall behind you. :-) Something sort of flat and lifeless about the food pics, too. Maybe that's why some P&Ss now have a scene mode for food? I also think at least a couple of the images can transcend snapshot status into rather nice portraits with a little help. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 06:59:11 2009 Received: (qmail 1043 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 05:59:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 05:59:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A0C430424 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688B644004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4131519FF4F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:59:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F357319FF36 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:59:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 6 days 14:59:53 ago / 195.8.64.4 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:59:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 11.red-83-39-85.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.39.85.11]:52463 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LTrpf-0006Lp-AY (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:58:55 +0000 Message-Id: <608A4889-866B-4800-9AF9-5528EAB52848@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:58:54 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 1/2/2009: tebirkes X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 06:59:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49868baf125774673671140 Continuing the trend of food photography... While I cook a lot, I have not baked anything since the mandatory cooking lessons in 7th grade. But inspired by a Danish friend who bakes delicious breads and pizzas and such, and who had sent me the recipe, I baked a type of Danish roll called tebirkes yesterday. They were pronounced edible by all concerned: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#466176697_5yv6v-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 07:05:44 2009 Received: (qmail 9673 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 06:05:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 06:05:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5086430410 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A39E44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EA819FF6C for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:05:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B9819FF68 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:05:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14861 invoked by uid 502); 2 Feb 2009 06:05:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.178.238) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 06:05:34 -0000 Message-ID: <49868D29.3040903@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:05:29 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> <498366E2.4040801@chucknorcutt.com> <498456C9.4070804@chucknorcutt.com> <49854C0D.1060100@gmail.com> <1B978BC2-D326-4018-89A8-68AA79EE06E6@roadrunner.com> <498636DA.4060804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498636DA.4060804@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 07:05:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49868d3847801499373980 Marc Lawrence wrote: > Bob Whitmire wrote: > >> ... Can't say enough for serendipity. >> > > Gees, Bob, you and your fancy art talk words. Cartier-Bresson just said, "Of course it's all luck". ;-) > Jung might have credited it to synchronicity. ;-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 07:28:20 2009 Received: (qmail 13952 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 06:28:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 06:28:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C32430408 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B5444004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88143610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:28:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4F03610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:28:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C547C461423 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:47:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4986F4DC.20798.BBF167@bj.caverock.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:28:08 +0000 References: <4986F4DC.20798.BBF167@bj.caverock.net.nz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Candid photography; examples from Brian Brake (deceased) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 07:28:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49869284163043675314703 Thanks, Brian I had never heard of Mr Brake until your scans prompted me to look him up. How did you get hold of the photos? Chris On 2 Feb 2009, at 00:27, Brian Swale wrote: > Hi all, > > I have just uploaded 10 of Brian Brake's photos re-photographed with > E-1 > and Z 50/3.5 from the books I mentioned a few days ago. Here they are. > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=16185&l=01a83&id=1027725807 > > For at least the first of the two source volumes he used Leica and > Nikon F > cameras - with one exception; an XA which was told to me by the > subject. > > I will take these images down in about 3 days' time. > > I await with interest for the comments which should be forthcoming. > > I know these are quick and imperfect copies; but it is technique in > candid > photography we are to learn about from them. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 07:38:20 2009 Received: (qmail 17854 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 06:38:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 06:38:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E866430412 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59E044004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B529C3610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132683610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGR20155 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49868263.6000308@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:38:10 -0800 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> <49868263.6000308@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 07:38:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498694dc134025368819438 On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Moose wrote: > siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: >> OK, time to share some snapshots, and yes, they are just >> snapshots, nothing deliberate, and therefore nothing that great. >> You just hit on two of my favourite things, food, and photos. >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 >> >> > > A fun excursion, thanks. I hadn't realized until now that Nico had > most > likely learned f the list from you. Yup. > > "Only snapshots" means it's ok to enhance them so the faces of you and > your friends are more clearly visible, no? Fair enough, but one, I'm lacking the patience (and the necessary skills (beyond basic color balancing, if i'm feeling frisky and resizing in iphoto), plus ppl want to see the photos very soon right after! > So what if the source of the > light isn't clear. Maybe you used fill flash - or carried abound a > large, white wall behind you. :-) I'm already too conscious of the fact that I'm sticking camera in people's faces in these situations, popping a fillflash might be too much. But then, granted no one seems to mind when autoflashes in point and shoots go off everywhere. Could be just me that finds them bothersome and intrusive. Perhaps I should take a chapter from your book on street shooting, with a OM-5D (?) and a mondo 2.8 zoom as well :P > Something sort of flat and lifeless > about the food pics, too. Maybe that's why some P&Ss now have a scene > mode for food? > > I also think at least a couple of the images can transcend snapshot > status into rather nice portraits with a little help. > > Wow, I've just been Moosified! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 07:43:44 2009 Received: (qmail 6316 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 06:43:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 06:43:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70E143041F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E0244004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD271A0005 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:43:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EBC19FFFE for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:43:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYD11340 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:44:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <607C8748-8B7A-4C99-8FB3-5CCFDADB43D5@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902011349w45088c45m8dab6bbc6e5d9168@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:43:33 -0800 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> <85699667-2E25-4774-BC60-FB1881E92D21@ucr.edu> <9EFCA085-60A6-4028-96A5-F11FF3E08BBF@ucr.edu> <9e908c1f0902011349w45088c45m8dab6bbc6e5d9168@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 07:43:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49869620186882336821329 On Feb 1, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: >> OK, third time's the charm. many apologies, feel terribly stupid. >> copied the wrong URL.. haven't had breakfast yet, that's my alibi. >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2108283&l=d7c03&id=6313229 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2120428&l=89357&id=6313229 > > Those galleries are quite interesting taken as a whole. I sense that > they are also enjoyable to the persons featured in them. They are > natural to a gathering of friends and almost documentary-like. I wish > some of the faces were not lost in shadows at times, but it's not > inconsistent to the lighting and how it might have looked being there. > Correct for the venue, I'd say. :) Yeah, lighting tends to be on the dim side at these events, be it at a restaurant, or someone's house where we all gather to see how much mayhem we can cause in the kitchen by experimenting on 'nomables.' Plus as most of these are food and company driven, the latter tend to dispatch the former in short order, leaving little or no chance for documenting. I think most of the friends have gotten used to me being hidden behind the camera, but sometimes I get the feeling they find it offputting, some more than others, so I go easy on the shutter tripping. > > > The sashimi is beautiful. My Japanese mother-in-law won't eat it, so > I don't eat it. I figure she knows something ... Don't eat it much, but a friend visiting from Italy loved this hole in the wall mom and pop shop in little osaka part of LA, and given that it took no reservations and people were happily waiting for upwards of half and hour for a seat, figured it's worth a shot! I am disappointed in how plasticky looking the close ups came out, but I chalk that up to my lack of experience in shooting food, high ISO and high NR (just to save post processing time--and I wouldn't know where to start--so Massi could have photos to show as soon as he returned home). > > > My New Year's Day soup was so beautiful in the bowl that I took a > photo of it. I have half a mind now to show everybody ... Do share, there are many lovers of photography and food here! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 08:09:21 2009 Received: (qmail 15458 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 07:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 07:09:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2C243041D for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DED44004F for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D563610007 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:09:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC113610004 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:09:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYD15609 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:10:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2233B7B7-A512-4A68-95A4-878EBC9AFC61@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:09:13 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 08:09:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49869c21163471073733319 On Feb 1, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots > taken on > Saturday during the outing with Joel. > No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed > yet. > That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital > "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's > success > rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. > > Same place as usual: > > www.zone-10.com 'bin and stairs' and 'storefront reflection' are fantastic. missing the obligatory 'i've got an suv cuz i need to drive in the mud' shot though... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 09:04:07 2009 Received: (qmail 11302 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 08:04:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 08:04:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D9E4300C1 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C140244004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C2B3610006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:03:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.001 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059313610004 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:03:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690E34615EE for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:22:46 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:03:54 +0000 References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, was A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 09:04:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986a8f7248411529615919 I'll send you a message on the 'Book, Acer. Chris On 1 Feb 2009, at 20:01, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > > An aside, any listees on FB? msg me offline, will add :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 11:45:14 2009 Received: (qmail 23238 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 10:45:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 10:45:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFB143041C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B10A44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE9619DF69 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:45:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30A119DF65 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:45:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:45:03 +0100 Received: from ians-mac-pro.local (unknown [172.20.200.1]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BA2E5D04 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:45:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4986CEAE.5020001@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:45:02 +0100 From: ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB522E465C96F9-1288-1342@webmail-stg-d10.sysops.aol.com> <3F2785C9-566E-4576-A1C7-7D19ED261FCF@roadrunner.com> <230FA410-7DD5-4143-B05A-D7390A404144@ucr.edu> In-Reply-To: Subject: [OM] photomesa irfanview etc X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 11:45:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986ceba309161591313764 I can't be bothered finding out why I can sometimes send to the list from my gmail account and sometimes not, so I have now subscribed from here. Unfortunately or fortunately depending upon your stance I am having to use a windows laptop at the moment (my wife has hijacked the macbook). I exported my aperture library as jpegs so that I can look at them on the laptop, I downloaded irfanview but found it only displayed at a folder level - not showing me the subfolders so I tried photomesa, which seems to be the iphoto equivalent on the PC, took a while to catalogue my library though. http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/photomesa/ I hear a lot of praise of irfanview so maybe I need to change a default setting somewhere to display a folder and all its pictures including the subfolders, so if any one know which one I would appreciate a heads up as I would like to give it a second chance, otherwise photomesa seems good (and its free as well) thanks IanW - the hobby photographer formerly know as swisspace ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 11:48:41 2009 Received: (qmail 24230 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 10:48:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 10:48:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C82F430417 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C2344004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D0D3610006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:48:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CBB3610004 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:48:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30390 invoked by uid 504); 2 Feb 2009 10:48:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 10:48:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4986CF7D.6060207@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:48:29 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 11:48:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986cf89277171035110158 Nice. I liked that tour. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on > Saturday during the outing with Joel. > No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed yet. > That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital > "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's success > rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. > > Same place as usual: > > www.zone-10.com > > AG-Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 11:53:18 2009 Received: (qmail 6892 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 10:53:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 10:53:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2615D430412 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC94A44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67E73610007 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:53:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187823610004 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:53:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32461 invoked by uid 504); 2 Feb 2009 10:53:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 10:53:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4986D096.6020105@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:53:10 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <608A4889-866B-4800-9AF9-5528EAB52848@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <608A4889-866B-4800-9AF9-5528EAB52848@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 1/2/2009: tebirkes X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 11:53:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986d09e236618512572685 I thought at first that you burned the rolls. I've never seen or heard of black sesame seeds before. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Continuing the trend of food photography... > > While I cook a lot, I have not baked anything since the mandatory > cooking lessons in 7th grade. But inspired by a Danish friend who > bakes delicious breads and pizzas and such, and who had sent me the > recipe, I baked a type of Danish roll called tebirkes yesterday. They > were pronounced edible by all concerned: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#466176697_5yv6v-O-LB > > Nathan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 11:56:35 2009 Received: (qmail 30638 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 10:56:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 10:56:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D082043040A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE9D44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EE819DFB0 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:56:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5051419DF9A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:56:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n12AuA2Z021441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:56:23 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200902020414.n124EUnO021526@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> <49867F70.20504@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49867F70.20504@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:56:02 +1100 Message-ID: <000001c98524$e1011070$a3033150$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmE9BvLawoXnF1VTPSn4xeM5EzlaAAMJ99A Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 11:56:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986d16358281591313764 I'll reserve comment until Chris Barker has a look at it ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Wayne Harridge wrote: > > Was it him that said "the more ... > Should that not read "Was it he that said "the more ..."? Certainly "Was he the one who said ...?" is correct and "Was him the one who said ...?" is not. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 1/02/2009 6:02 PM -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 12:06:31 2009 Received: (qmail 14467 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 11:06:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 11:06:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA96B430131 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD03944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:06:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3A619DFE7 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:06:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D8019DFE4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:06:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n12B6H1s021107 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:06:21 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:06:10 +1100 Message-ID: <000101c98526$442c5fa0$cc851ee0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmE9IjfWXT91x3CRdyEuaTwUhTv/wAMZNDQ Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 12:06:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986d3b713641585427447 Excellent images Ken, I particularly like the "monochrome" silo. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on Saturday during the outing with Joel. No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed yet. That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's success rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. Same place as usual: www.zone-10.com AG-Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. 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(VPS 090201-0, 02/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 13:37:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986e911177901234514069 The Storefront Reflection and Bin and Stairs were my favorites. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 14:43:17 2009 Received: (qmail 20065 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 13:43:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 13:43:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3467E430442 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC524440051 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C11D34AC029 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:43:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FF134AC001 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:43:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.167.19.24]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEF00234Y3ROK10@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:43:04 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <4986F86D.3040000@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:43:09 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498229BC.7000802@chucknorcutt.com> <49822B55.8030302@chucknorcutt.com> <49823068.2010709@gmail.com> <49823E63.90302@chucknorcutt.com> <49824C70.1040408@gmail.com> <49833C70.9050205@verizon.net> <49833EF1.3030900@ctgonline.org> In-reply-to: <49833EF1.3030900@ctgonline.org> Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 14:43:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986f875304401838542571 Thanks, and I do have an open pci slot. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Paul Braun wrote: > John Hermanson wrote: >> My computer has eide drives, If I put in a sata drive, will that plug >> directly into the motherboard or is there some kind of sata adapter >> board involved? >> ___________________________________ > > Easiest thing to do is buy a SATA controller pci card. You'll connect > the new drives to that card. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 15:01:59 2009 Received: (qmail 2887 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 14:01:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 14:01:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BC44303F0 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D734444004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C418C34AC003 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:01:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DB134AC001 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:01:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.167.19.24]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KEF00BJ6YYNN042@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:01:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:01:41 -0500 From: John Hermanson In-reply-to: <4983705E.1020203@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <4986FCC5.20904@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 References: <498229BC.7000802@chucknorcutt.com> <49822B55.8030302@chucknorcutt.com> <49823068.2010709@gmail.com> <49823E63.90302@chucknorcutt.com> <49824C70.1040408@gmail.com> <49833C70.9050205@verizon.net> <49833EF1.3030900@ctgonline.org> <4983705E.1020203@chucknorcutt.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Subject: Re: [OM] 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 15:01:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4986fcd712201591313764 Thanks for the in-depth information (you are always reliable for that) and the link. This may be the way to go for me. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I agree that you'll need an eSATA adapter card (e for external). This > can be PCI or better PCIe (PCI express) if your motherboard has a PCIe > slot which is a faster interface. My motherboard supports SATA drives > but it would not work with external SATA enclosures. I had to install a > Rosewill PCIe card from Newegg which provides two eSATA ports at 3 Gb/s. > > I don't really know why my motherboard wouldn't support external SATA > drives. But I did discover that eSATA was a later development and, in > addition to using different and more robust cable connectors it also has > a slightly different voltage spec. Moose's motherboard appears to > support eSATA directly through backplane ports but mine does not and > Dell verified that I would need to add an adapter. > > I would suggest that you do what Moose and I did which was to get an > external drive dock for your SATA drives. That way they need no > external cases. Just plug and unplug as needed. This is what I got. > > You can find it or equivalents somewhat cheaper elsewhere but the free > shipping in combination with other stuff made it a better alternative > for me. Caution. Make sure it has an eSATA interface. There are > lookalike boxes which have only USB. Mine has both eSATA and USB cable > connections but only accepts SATA drives. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Paul Braun wrote: >> John Hermanson wrote: >>> My computer has eide drives, If I put in a sata drive, will that plug >>> directly into the motherboard or is there some kind of sata adapter >>> board involved? >>> ___________________________________ >> Easiest thing to do is buy a SATA controller pci card. You'll connect >> the new drives to that card. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 15:37:22 2009 Received: (qmail 3673 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 14:37:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 14:37:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B9A430448 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C31444004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566E634AC002 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:37:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA6534AC001 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:37:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1465697wfd.26 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:37:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.77.7 with SMTP id z7mr421644wfa.18.1233585435296; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:37:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:37:15 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902020637p1028fd2ch7a6ca8eac38c97c4@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 15:37:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49870522106921591313764 On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on > Saturday during the outing with Joel. > No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed yet. > That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital > "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's success > rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. > > Same place as usual: > > www.zone-10.com Hey, I recognize a few of those sites. I'll try to get my act together here and pony up a couple images now that I know what I have to go against! Hey, thanks for putting a big flaming circle around my anticipated success rate, Ken. HA! I took fewer photos because I was mostly fiddling around with settings all the time and moving back and forth between cameras. I'd like to think that would improve the success rate, but not very likely. Have I now sufficiently lowered expectations? I used both E-1 and E-3. Since I used Zuikos +adapter exclusively on the E-1, and since I found the Z 300/4.5 to yield my best results, I feel as though I got by best photos of the eagles with the E-1. I did use the 300 on the E-3, but not too much and, I believe, only with the 2XA TC at that time. I was hoping that that combination (=1200mm in film terms) along with IS would yield sharper results. But I think it's just an inherently soft combination. It's not recommended by Olympus even though they mate and it tends to exacerbate the CA of the 300. The DZ 50-200 didn't give quite as much reach as I would have liked at 200mm. Nor was I very accurate in following the eagles in flight. Using the single focus point setting I just couldn't stay with the birds well enough to make the focus accurate. It's not that it doesn't focus well or quickly, it just ended up focusing on something other than the bird.a lot of the time. I think I would have been better with this lens to have focused manually, waiting for the birds to enter the "focus zone" -- which would have been reasonably successful. Another possibility might have been to use a broader spread of focus points (five) rather than just one or the whole eleven. A good reason to do it all over again! But what a great day to be out. A little wind early on died out and the temperatures as the sun rose were largely in a perfect winter range of mid-20s F. Later in the day it reached into the 40s. Beautiful, full sun the entire day. I found out that Ken is a bit of a snob about the Kodak sensors. I have to say that right out of the starting gate I prefer the capture of the E-1 myself, though I know that camera better and have tweaked settings in it to get what I really like. There are so many more options with the E-3 that I haven't really tested the settings that might be likely to yield something similar to what I've got coming out of the E-1. It's pretty much soft and bland right now and I rely on RAW development processes to get me to something closer to what I like. I think the E-3 is somewhat more accurate in a clinical sense, but the E-1 is currently more beautiful and "photographic" right out of the box. My E-330 was apparently a lot easier to "tune" to a result similar to the E-1, but the E-3 is a different beast and I need to live in the menus for a while it seems. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 15:43:08 2009 Received: (qmail 8441 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 14:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 14:43:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1CF430423 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6655244004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EDA34AC02A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:43:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D75334AC028 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:43:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 01:01:15 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.167.19.24]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEF00D4MY1FIXK6@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:41:40 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <4986F819.2010802@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:41:45 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0901282213q795b2709q8b5108f844ebb3fe@mail.gmail.com> <26E83D4F-DDEE-444D-861A-E8C5CF59EBFA@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0901290601j1531df79jc3ca678076b5a484@mail.gmail.com> <4981BE21.5040806@gmail.com> <67C8D8B9-A076-4571-AA80-076BB743532F@gmail.com> <4983020C.4020902@verizon.net> <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <9e908c1f0901300942x613951eew19f4ec7583f68b78@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] More Winter Photos X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 15:43:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987067c140601499373980 I know how you feel. I almost always take my camera with me when I go out. I tell Lisa "I'm prepared for when I wander upon that big news story (or red barn in the snow)....". Lisa is an artist and photographer and also knows that sometimes it's just a matter of being there and looking. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Ken Norton <> wrote: >>> That's funny...."very little skill".... >>> >> >> Well, tomorrow morning is the gathering of the "skill impaired" in central >> Iowa. Results are not guaranteed, but we'll try not to embarrass ourselves >> too badly. >> >> AG (less than little) Schnozz > > OK, I wasn't fishing for compliments (but I deeply appreciate the kind > support!). All I meant is that if I get any good results, it's more a > matter of getting my rear end to a place at the right time, despite > the fact that there is usually a certain amount of hardship (early, > later, cold, or hot) and discomfort. > > There was a guy, a Brit, whose book I borrowed from the library many > years ago. I don't recall his name. I liked many of his photographs > but I was struck by the fact that they all looked like they were taken > at about noon. Compositions were terrific, but the lighting looked a > little flat, like a 1950s postcard. Turns out he was a Leica shooter, > did not care to use a tripod much, and he loved to shoot Kodachrome > 25. So most of his photographs were shot at about 1/60-1/125 (at the > fastest) and f2.8 or f4. Lenses primarily normal to wide, of course. > His contention, based on a couple of statements from his commentary, > is that only his Leica gear would give him the ability to produce > world-class landscape photographs at f2.8 (and, doubtless -- to > complete the image -- only after a good night's sleep to blow off the > single malt, a shower, a shave, and a proper breakfast first). > > In shooting Olympus we have to suffer more for our art perhaps. > > We'll see tomorrow, Ken! > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:10:43 2009 Received: (qmail 8705 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:10:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:10:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9216A43044A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1230744004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024E719EC79 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:10:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4393519EC63 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:10:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 12 days 14:49:13 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:10:33 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12GATIq006740; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:10:31 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:10:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:10:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49871b03161551073733319 Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-powered external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to suitability for backup use, and reliability? Thanks in advance. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:13:06 2009 Received: (qmail 23237 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:13:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:13:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC59430463 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C426744004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B084E34AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:13:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.819 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.819 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.819, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74FB34AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:12:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from imo-m13.mail.aol.com (imo-m13.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c8f.3cd7a6d9 (29679) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:12:41 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:12:34 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Off-topic: Re: 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:13:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49871b9262481838542571 Brian, thanks to another list enabler from down under, I also have one on its way, however mine may take a bit longer than yours. Look forward to hearing/seeing your reports. Bill Barber In a message dated 2/1/2009 12:25:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, bj@caverock.net.nz writes: Next, I have sent a 30-years old Schneider Super Angulon 90mm lens to Australia to have a custom made 6 x 17 body with focusing helical, fitted to it. **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals?c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d hs%26~ck=anavml) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:14:19 2009 Received: (qmail 8983 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DF7430449 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867B44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59FC34AC028 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:14:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88E334AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:14:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.23.8.62] (helo=localhost) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LU1R3-0003Ax-Nr for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:14:09 +0000 To: From: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:14:09 GMT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Originating-Ip: [64.209.26.189] X-Mailer: NOCC v0.9.5 Message-ID: X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [212.23.8.62] Subject: [OM] More Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:14:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49871bdb3465368819438 Yesterday evening & today we've actually had an appreciable amount of snow here - about 6 inches at the moment, pretty unusual for SE England (& still falling). Realise it's nothing compared to what many of you regularly experience but it's been sufficient to bring the country to it's knees, as always... :-) Took a pic (E-1) from the lavatory window at work - Happily I'm within walking distance (both of home & the lavatory). Cheers - Martyn -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:18:52 2009 Received: (qmail 9775 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:18:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:18:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F53E43043E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:18:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E665C44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7203610007 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:18:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.819 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.819 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.819, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67C53610004 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.beb.3868e1b8 (29679) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:18:38 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:18:36 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:18:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49871cec36941702588592 Ken, your shot of the eagle is spectacular. Manual focus on the fly with an e-1. You are my hero. Bill Barber In a message dated 2/1/2009 11:10:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on Saturday during the outing with Joel. No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed yet. That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's success rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. Same place as usual: www.zone-10.com AG-Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. 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One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their diagnostic software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nichols" To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-powered > external hard drives? 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/1/2009 6:02 PM -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:25:07 2009 Received: (qmail 2186 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:25:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1616D430488 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31C244004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C4D34AC002 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF4E34AC02A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:25:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 12 days 15:03:39 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:25:01 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12GOvk5014681 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:25:00 GMT Message-ID: <294668758F444B7DBBABF43D07EB7616@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:25:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:25:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49871e63244711946193717 Thanks, Bill. What is the nature of the problem with image files? Do the files disappear, or fail to open properly? Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no > problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some > last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their > diagnostic > software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Nichols" > To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" > Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM > Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered > ExternalDrives > > >> Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >> 2.0-powered >> external hard drives? 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(VPS 090201-0, 01/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Candid photography; examples from Brian Brake (deceased) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:37:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987215b21471869477228 Chris Barker asked ... > I had never heard of Mr Brake until your scans prompted me to look him > up. How did you get hold of the photos? > > Chris > > On 2 Feb 2009, at 00:27, Brian Swale wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have just uploaded 10 of Brian Brake's photos re-photographed with > > E-1 and Z 50/3.5 from the books I mentioned a few days ago. Here they > > are. Chris, I have two of the books (they are great photo essays of New Zealand), and I used the E-1 and Zuiko macro to re-record the images. Cropped and resized with Irfanview in short order. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=16185&l=01a83&id=1027725807 I'd really like to hear what people think of the results of Brake's candid photography technique. In my opinion, he was terrific. The books are two editions of "New Zealand - Gift of the Sea" and Brian Brake is one of the authors. The text was written (depends on the edition) by Maurice Shadbolt or another. Brake was a pupil of Cartier-Bresson. I have many books, and hunt them down using www.bookfinder.com/ A great resource, started by two women - bought out by (I think) Alibris. Alibris had the good sense to not absorb bookfinder into itself - compared with what Amazon did when they took over www.bibliofind.com - which does not exist now in its own right. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:48:10 2009 Received: (qmail 29176 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:48:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:48:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3D143042A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E24A44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A8934AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFD434AC003 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:48:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so528611anc.35 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:48:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.143.14 with SMTP id q14mr1023751and.47.1233593282907; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:48:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:48:02 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d1ccb4eaa805b2be Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:48:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498723ca25231073733319 > > Ken, your shot of the eagle is spectacular. Manual focus on the fly with > an > e-1. You are my hero. Bill Barber > Thank you. I only showed you two out of 590 pictures, though. Even a blind nut finds a squirrel once in a while. :) Actually, the water skiing eagle is a touch back-focused. I was at F5.6 on that one, but the ones at f8 gave me a lot more fudge-factor on focusing. Both shots, unfortunately are heavily cropped. I would have liked to have had another couple hundred mm of lens. Somebody showed up with a $6000 "Big White". Drool.... Of my focusing errors, I'd say that my hit-rate on focusing was at least 85%. When I blew focus, it was because there was an unexpected flyby and I had to not only FIND the bird in the viewfinder (600mm effective is hard to find birds with), but then track focus on it. I'd enjoy a good auto-focus system, but just as Joel experienced, you live and DIE by the auto-focus and when it gets defeated, it gets defeated big time. I figure another dozen outings like this and I might acutally get good at manual-focusing. My editing of images was brutal--I deleted at least 400 pictures that were technically OK, but the image didn't work for various reasons, like disturbing backgrounds, exposure, wing position incorrect, flying away, etc. Less than fifty were out-of-focus. Of course, there were probably as many images with NO birds in them where I completely lost the stupid things. One trick to getting the birds in focus is to start tracking them before you actually take the photograph. It's usually no secret which way they're going to go next and just like an airport, there seems to be a typical traffic pattern they follow. A bigger issue than focusing was exposure control. I ended up using manual exposure more often than not. A side-note regarding focusing with the 300/4.5. I discovered something when I swapped to the Tokina. The Tokina has a very very short throw between 50m and infinity. The Zuiko's throw is quite long in comparison requiring much more turning of the focus ring. The additional turning distance of the Zuiko made tracking birds much easier because I could better fine-tune the focus. Yes, the 300/4.5 does have CA. However, it only showed up on the heads and tails of the adult eagles. A very slight touch of color noise control wiped it out, though. As we have tools to fix CA in post, I consider this an annoyance, but definitely not a problem. I'm looking forward to seeing Joel's shots of the storefront. I know he was getting shots that I wasn't seeing. Also, I saved my good shots for film.... ;) All cameras performed flawlessly, even when the photographer didn't. I thought I'd have enticed Joel to bring an OM camera with him, but you know how it is when somebody buys a new digital toy (E-3)... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:49:46 2009 Received: (qmail 31653 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:49:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:49:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45A2430442 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF8C44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E20734AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:49:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C3534AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:49:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.167.19.24]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KEG00B1J6Q8N0X2@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:49:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:49:26 -0500 From: John Hermanson To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Message-id: <49872416.5090602@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:49:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987242a163451342116753 We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the same as "My Passport")? They are quiet, turn off when they're done. We've had no problems with them. -- ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html On 2/2/2009 11:20:47 AM, Sue Pearce (bs.pearce@cox.net) wrote: > Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no > problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some > last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their > diagnostic > software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Nichols" > To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" > Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM > Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered > ExternalDrives > > > > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0- > powered > > external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to > > suitability for backup use, and reliability? > > > > Thanks in advance. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 17:53:34 2009 Received: (qmail 14659 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 16:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 16:53:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6DB43044B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A210D44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C97619EEAF for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:53:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 2.432 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.432 required=7 tests=[DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=2.431, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF9419EEDD for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (68.230.240.8 is listed in dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net) Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (eastrmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.240.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090202165327.ZUOI8735.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:53:27 -0500 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id B4tS1b00D4Z9Gks024tSYH; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:53:26 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nfNcxmjjkg8A:10 a=qwKoF3tiupkA:10 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=7IozFXkhAYNf6657TcUA:9 a=8gIKCQhbaz2Dvt5lFykA:7 a=8j_OPaxuLAR7zoEQUf-xf0DtcTYA:4 a=nJ-q_yjzxj8A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=oIDA__ndP4QA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <172F1D02C3E243AE986E601A470D6F0A@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <294668758F444B7DBBABF43D07EB7616@jimnichols> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:53:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 17:53:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987250e82723675314703 The Files were garbled. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > Thanks, Bill. What is the nature of the problem with image files? Do the > files disappear, or fail to open properly? > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Pearce" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB > 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > > >> Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no >> problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some >> last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their >> diagnostic >> software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. >> >> Bill Pearce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Nichols" >> To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" >> Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM >> Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered >> ExternalDrives >> >> >>> Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >>> 2.0-powered >>> external hard drives? 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/1/2009 6:02 PM -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 18:04:42 2009 Received: (qmail 803 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 17:04:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 17:04:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88D3430453 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4D044004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7C03610004 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:04:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A31934AC003 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 12 days 15:43:12 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:04:33 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12H4UNi017668 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:04:32 GMT Message-ID: <356715DF95B64411B0886C406CA1B80B@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49872416.5090602@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:04:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 18:04:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498727aa186589347015869 Thanks, John. I suspect yours are similar to the ones that I am considering. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hermanson" To: Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives > We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the > same as "My Passport")? They are quiet, turn off when they're done. > We've had no problems with them. > > -- > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > On 2/2/2009 11:20:47 AM, Sue Pearce (bs.pearce@cox.net) wrote: >> Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no >> problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some >> last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their >> diagnostic >> software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. >> >> Bill Pearce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Nichols" >> To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" >> Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM >> Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered >> ExternalDrives >> >> >> > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0- >> powered >> > external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to >> > suitability for backup use, and reliability? >> > >> > Thanks in advance. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 18:06:03 2009 Received: (qmail 16800 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 17:06:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 17:06:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718D8430412 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8FFD0404A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6F734AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C4734AC003 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:49 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12H5Tls023561 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:05:35 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <294668758F444B7DBBABF43D07EB7616@jimnichols> <172F1D02C3E243AE986E601A470D6F0A@SueHome> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport EssentialUSB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 18:06:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498727fb150942046811720 Thanks, Bill. That presents a problem, doesn't it. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport EssentialUSB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > The Files were garbled. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Nichols" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:25 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential > USB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > > >> Thanks, Bill. What is the nature of the problem with image files? Do the >> files disappear, or fail to open properly? >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sue Pearce" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >> 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives >> >> >>> Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no >>> problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some >>> last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their >>> diagnostic >>> software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. >>> >>> Bill Pearce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jim Nichols" >>> To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" >>> Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM >>> Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered >>> ExternalDrives >>> >>> >>>> Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >>>> 2.0-powered >>>> external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to >>>> suitability for backup use, and reliability? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Jim Nichols >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: >>> 2/1/2009 >>> 6:02 PM >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/1/2009 > 6:02 PM > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 18:07:06 2009 Received: (qmail 129 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 17:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 17:07:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4118430419 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5023944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4277D34AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A013E34AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so532817anc.35 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:05:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.135.16 with SMTP id i16mr2878617and.99.1233594307910; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:05:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4987D813.27641.3385E1@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <4987D813.27641.3385E1@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f10dc16bc4549f6d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Candid photography; examples from Brian Brake (deceased) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 18:07:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987283a307821234514069 > > I'd really like to hear what people think of the results of Brake's candid > photography technique. In my opinion, he was terrific. > I'm impressed! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 18:09:37 2009 Received: (qmail 12755 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 17:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 17:09:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F761430448 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B2F44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1940B19F037 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:09:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE5719F047 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:09:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.130]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62796 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2009 17:09:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fmvEBZsVM1nEviP7JzEZL_40kB.m1VW30ZUULPR_uRZzSqVl2eUZeuuR Received: from [72.56.151.97] by web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:09:24 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:09:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Smith To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <356715DF95B64411B0886C406CA1B80B@jimnichols> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <623211.62623.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 18:09:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498728d1198871257536491 =A0 =A0Passports and books, pretty much tells the size. =A0I have a 500gig = passport, =A0it is a "housed" laptop size hard drive, where as the My Books= are desktop drives and I believe are about the size of a paperback book. G= uys use the My Passport drives all over here at work, and I have not heard = anything bad about them.=A0 =A0 Jerry=A0 Life is not a race, it is a ride. Enjoy it!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/proud-texan/ --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Jim Nichols wrote: From: Jim Nichols Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered Ext= ernalDrives To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 11:04 AM Thanks, John. I suspect yours are similar to the ones that I am considering. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- = From: "John Hermanson" To: Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered = ExternalDrives > We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the > same as "My Passport")? They are quiet, turn off when they're done. > We've had no problems with them. > > -- = > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > On 2/2/2009 11:20:47 AM, Sue Pearce (bs.pearce@cox.net) wrote: >> Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no >> problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost some >> last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their >> diagnostic >> software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. >> >> Bill Pearce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Nichols" >> To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" >> Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM >> Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered >> ExternalDrives >> >> >> > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0- >> powered >> > external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to >> > suitability for backup use, and reliability? >> > >> > Thanks in advance. > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 18:19:30 2009 Received: (qmail 12428 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 17:19:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 17:19:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B2743044C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4864644004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351B434AC003 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F46834AC02A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 12 days 15:57:59 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:21 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12HJHiN027718 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:19:19 GMT Message-ID: <9A3D8C5EB2754FE19F58062D3815EB00@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <623211.62623.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:19:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 18:19:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49872b22258782046811720 Thanks, Jerry. Now I know the difference in the two. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Smith" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > Passports and books, pretty much tells the size. I have a 500gig passport, > it is a "housed" laptop size hard drive, where as the My Books are desktop > drives and I believe are about the size of a paperback book. Guys use the > My Passport drives all over here at work, and I have not heard anything > bad about them. Jerry > > Life is not a race, it is a ride. Enjoy it!! > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/proud-texan/ > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Jim Nichols wrote: > From: Jim Nichols > Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered > ExternalDrives > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 11:04 AM > > Thanks, John. I suspect yours are similar to the ones that I am > considering. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hermanson" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered > ExternalDrives > > >> We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the >> same as "My Passport")? They are quiet, turn off when > they're done. >> We've had no problems with them. >> >> -- >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> On 2/2/2009 11:20:47 AM, Sue Pearce (bs.pearce@cox.net) wrote: >>> Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no >>> problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost > some >>> last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their >>> diagnostic >>> software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. >>> >>> Bill Pearce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jim Nichols" >>> To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" >>> Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > >>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM >>> Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered >>> ExternalDrives >>> >>> >>> > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB > 2.0- >>> powered >>> > external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as > to >>> > suitability for backup use, and reliability? >>> > >>> > Thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 19:00:39 2009 Received: (qmail 32755 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 18:00:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 18:00:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFD2430452 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29EB44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B232F3610004 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:00:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A333610007 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:00:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DF23140C1 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0961A3140B9 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:28:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498734C5.5080807@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:00:37 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-0, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] photomesa irfanview etc X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 19:00:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498734c7100037927319144 Just click the icon at the top, 3rd from left after the and icons. Make sure you go through the dialogue under Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 19:48:04 2009 Received: (qmail 27877 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 18:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 18:48:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B343430459 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2318E44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0311019F573 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:47:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E25019F54F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:47:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:47:51 +0100 Received: from ians-mac-pro.local (unknown [172.20.200.1]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AFC55D04 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:47:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49873FD5.5050308@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:47:49 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498734C5.5080807@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <498734C5.5080807@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] photomesa irfanview etc X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 19:48:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49873fe410894673671140 Thanks will try that though photomesa seems quite good. Mike Lazzari wrote: > Just click the icon at the top, 3rd from left after the > and icons. Make sure you go through the > dialogue under > > Mike > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 19:54:55 2009 Received: (qmail 6172 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 18:54:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 18:54:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B97C430440 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:54:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318AB44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0491119F656 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A277819EC93 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.242]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1612912rvb.50 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.157.6 with SMTP id f6mr1936519wfe.317.1233600888085; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:54:48 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902021054m601b121cg513e2d2cdfb15325@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 19:54:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987417f323411023412894 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > I'm looking forward to seeing Joel's shots of the storefront. I know he was > getting shots that I wasn't seeing. Also, I saved my good shots for > film.... ;) > > All cameras performed flawlessly, even when the photographer didn't. I > thought I'd have enticed Joel to bring an OM camera with him, but you know > how it is when somebody buys a new digital toy (E-3)... I forgot to switch to RAW on the E-3 after the eagles, so all my store fronts are jpg. Oh well, that won't be a huge issue as I was pretty careful with exposure. I didn't bring a film camera, but almost all the Zuikos I brought got used and even a 17mm Tokvivron. Even mixing the E-1 and E-3 had me slightly confused all day. We can do an all-film outing some time and I'll be happier that way. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 20:01:34 2009 Received: (qmail 23866 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 19:01:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 19:01:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9431243044E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:01:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03FFD0404A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED8819F762 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6680119F71A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFEC3140CE for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD253140BF for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:29:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:01:31 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-0, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 20:01:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987430e162331529615919 A couple from Thanksgiving 08: Robin's pie. (not Canadian :-) ) My contribution. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 20:05:12 2009 Received: (qmail 5826 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 19:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 19:05:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031AF430456 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04C344004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D313434AC03E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C9B34AC037 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.76]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 4E75EDB6VC for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:05:02 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:04:30 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] food<>photography, Thread-Index: AcmFaK3f8eQKx+FnR2ScoKmVxmGLpQAAEiSg From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2009 19:05:02.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[26E63090:01C98569] Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 20:05:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498743e890291035110158 >A couple from Thanksgiving 08: >Robin's pie. 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([72.14.241.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s35sm694715qbs.13.2009.02.02.11.10.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:10:22 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> References: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:10:11 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 20:10:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49874527137271234514069 yum! the cookies look interesting - were they soft inside? or crunchy? nico. On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: A couple from Thanksgiving 08: Robin's pie. (not Canadian :-) ) My contribution. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 20:16:42 2009 Received: (qmail 13561 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 19:16:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 19:16:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5007D430440 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6241844004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512E619F7DA for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:16:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2FF19F85F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:16:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGS98386 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:14:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:14:57 -0800 References: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 20:16:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987469a153521744846740 > > > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > > A couple from Thanksgiving 08: > > Robin's pie. (not Canadian :-) ) > > > My contribution. > > > Mike > -- Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some shadowing. but yum! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 20:26:12 2009 Received: (qmail 4527 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 19:26:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 19:26:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A70E430463 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B69F44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA2619F820 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D46719F81F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC39D461626 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:25:53 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 20:26:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498748d4155683675314703 Dear All Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed shots on this gallery: http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. Any thoughts? The scene is in the Reserve of the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB), not far from my home. My wife works there (for a pittance ... :-)). Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 21:05:02 2009 Received: (qmail 4658 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 20:05:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 20:05:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C389143045E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC67D0404A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4E919F94E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:04:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A6B19F952 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:04:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so578274yxi.80 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:04:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.70.15 with SMTP id x15mr3091398ank.112.1233605089329; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 12:04:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902021054m601b121cg513e2d2cdfb15325@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902021054m601b121cg513e2d2cdfb15325@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:04:49 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9d26b27544401b95 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 21:05:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498751ee212323675314703 > > I forgot to switch to RAW on the E-3 after the eagles, so all my store > fronts are jpg. Oh well, that won't be a huge issue as I was pretty > careful with exposure. > So you DID figure out how to change picture modes? AG (Where's that quick-release?) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 21:06:55 2009 Received: (qmail 5183 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 20:06:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 20:06:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4218343043A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6838144004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5649B34AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:06:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 2.432 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.432 required=7 tests=[DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=2.431, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC75234AC034 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:06:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (68.230.240.7 is listed in dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net) Received: from eastrmmtao101.cox.net (eastrmmtao101.cox.net [68.230.240.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090202200647.GYRJ15713.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:06:47 -0500 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id B86m1b00L4Z9Gks0286mPz; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:06:46 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-tIFgWDDQQYA:10 a=qwKoF3tiupkA:10 a=5-N1n4ZHNuI6sM0m4EIA:9 a=ADY17OxwRcusfEtqQVGL8ZBOgc8A:4 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49872416.5090602@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:06:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 21:06:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987525f275171234514069 > We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the > same as "My Passport")? The my book units are about the size of a trade paperback, and use, I suspect, the same size drive as a desktop computer. The Passports are about the size of a very thick, well, passport, and use laptop harddrives. BIll Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 21:07:25 2009 Received: (qmail 16642 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 20:07:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 20:07:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A2B43045B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C66644004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9C834AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 2.432 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.432 required=7 tests=[DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=2.431, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6506B34AC034 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (68.230.240.59 is listed in dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090202200715.BERO23750.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:07:15 -0500 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id B87E1b00H4Z9Gks0287EF3; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:07:14 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=L1dITgMuqeMA:10 a=WUIQKDKKYOkA:10 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=s4AQtgm5hGiF2CxRFDoA:9 a=N7ZrjTTkO9OJWsrohZMA:7 a=1V_2LqJqRwgYDhy0QSFYojEKez4A:4 a=nJ-q_yjzxj8A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=oIDA__ndP4QA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <18390814FEDC40ABBE99F83681468D2B@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <294668758F444B7DBBABF43D07EB7616@jimnichols><172F1D02C3E243AE986E601A470D6F0A@SueHome> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:07:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My PassportEssentialUSB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 21:07:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987527d251291529615919 I lost a file that makes me very sad. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My PassportEssentialUSB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > Thanks, Bill. That presents a problem, doesn't it. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Pearce" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport > EssentialUSB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives > > >> The Files were garbled. >> >> Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Nichols" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential >> USB2.0-PoweredExternalDrives >> >> >>> Thanks, Bill. What is the nature of the problem with image files? Do >>> the >>> files disappear, or fail to open properly? >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sue Pearce" >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >>> 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives >>> >>> >>>> Have two. One has been in continous use for years, it seems, with no >>>> problems. The second has been a problem with image files, and lost >>>> some >>>> last summer in Italy. UGH. I went to the WD website and ran their >>>> diagnostic >>>> software where it tested perfect. Will try it on less important data. >>>> >>>> Bill Pearce >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jim Nichols" >>>> To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" >>>> Cc: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>>> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:10 AM >>>> Subject: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered >>>> ExternalDrives >>>> >>>> >>>>> Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >>>>> 2.0-powered >>>>> external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to >>>>> suitability for backup use, and reliability? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>> -- >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: >>>> 2/1/2009 >>>> 6:02 PM >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: >> 2/1/2009 >> 6:02 PM >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 2/1/2009 6:02 PM -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 21:19:00 2009 Received: (qmail 21886 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 20:18:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 20:18:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259A8430455 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3020144004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DF219F9B4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:18:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409A319F9A1 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:18:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16347 invoked by uid 504); 2 Feb 2009 20:18:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090202-0, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 21:19:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49875534202723675314703 I think the camera got the uncompensated exposure exactly "correct". If you inspect the histogram of the baseline image (1/125 second) you will see that the tonal range of the image doesn't span the full range of the histogram. The shadow and highlight ends don't quite reach to the extremes. The whole histogram is quite nearly centered with both the shadow and highlight ends balanced at about 1/3 stop from from full range. The +1/3 compensation (1/100 second) has run the bright end of the histogram right up to the verge of being blown out. That would also be considered a "correct" exposure for one who follows the "expose to the right" philosophy (as do I). But that assumes you fully intend to work that image to extract something else from it and it works best with raw because there may be significant exposure change in post processing. But the difference in this case is only 1/3 stop and hardly worth worrying about. If you had set the exposure compensation to +0.5 or +1.0 you would have had a lot of blown highlights. An exposure compensation of +2 might have been required if (ala OM-4) you had spot metered the snow but, as it is, the normal metering is picking up a lot of dark trees and apparently making the right decision uncompensated. So, what's the right exposure? Probably the baseline. The image is improved by increasing the mid-tone brightness but that tends to push the highlights toward the end. If starting from the +1/3 it would probably be necessary to back it off a bit to keep the highlights from washing out as the overall brightness is increased. But I think the camera pretty much nailed it. Now it's only up to you as to how you really want it to look. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Dear All > > Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed > shots on this gallery: > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 > I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 > correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although > I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all > the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do > not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. > I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. > > Any thoughts? > > The scene is in the Reserve of the Royal Society for the Protection of > Birds (RSPB), not far from my home. My wife works there (for a > pittance ... :-)). > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 21:25:45 2009 Received: (qmail 13349 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 20:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 20:25:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9195143045B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190B944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A2819F9E5 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:25:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C01E19F9BB for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:25:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYE98362 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:26:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:25:15 -0800 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 21:25:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498756c9268829347015869 I think .3 is too little, I have a difficult time with which is which. One thing you can try is ISO braketing in RAW mode, at -1/0/+1 or half under, base and half over. ISOBKT+RAW takes just one shutter activation, but makes three files to merge, considering how much range there is from light to dark, and merge in post. /s On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Dear All > > Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed > shots on this gallery: > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 > I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 > correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although > I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all > the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do > not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. > I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. > > Any thoughts? > > The scene is in the Reserve of the Royal Society for the Protection of > Birds (RSPB), not far from my home. My wife works there (for a > pittance ... :-)). > > Chris > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 21:40:10 2009 Received: (qmail 28309 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 20:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 20:40:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762043048D for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7562C44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562A019FA5B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D8519F9A7 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:40:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29362 invoked by uid 504); 2 Feb 2009 20:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090202-0, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 21:40:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49875a2a141871823421471 If you read my prior post on this subject and look at the histograms of the actual images you will see that the tonal range is less than that which can be captured in a single JPEG. No HDR merging required. IMHO, bracketing for exposure is an old, film based paradigm which is no longer necessary. You now have in all of your cameras the finest light meter ever invented... the histogram. Rather than taking 3 or more bracketed images of unknown accuracy why not take one test image (in manual mode), evaluate the exposure, make corrections if needed and then take the real shot. But, in this case, a glance at the histogram of the first shot should have shouted out... I've got it. And most of the time you will on the first try. And manual mode works well in this environment since the exposure is unlikely to change much for a while. In this particular case it looks like the photo is taken in late afternoon under very overcast skies. You could turn the camera in any direction and the exposure will be the same... except that the meter might (incorrectly) argue with that. And since the meter might (incorrectly) argue with that why give it the chance to make an error when you know you've already got it right. Leave exposure bracketing to the film camera when you don't have a proper meter. You'll have a lot fewer images to discard. Chuck Norcutt siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > I think .3 is too little, I have a difficult time with which is which. > One thing you can try is ISO braketing in RAW mode, at -1/0/+1 or half > under, base and half over. ISOBKT+RAW takes just one shutter > activation, but makes three files to merge, considering how much range > there is from light to dark, and merge in post. > > /s > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> Dear All >> >> Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed >> shots on this gallery: >> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 >> I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 >> correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although >> I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all >> the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do >> not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. >> I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> The scene is in the Reserve of the Royal Society for the Protection of >> Birds (RSPB), not far from my home. My wife works there (for a >> pittance ... :-)). >> >> Chris >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 22:10:39 2009 Received: (qmail 27034 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 21:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:10:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC48430465 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4440044004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2740D19FAE2 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:10:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA06C19FB50 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:10:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1630100wfd.26 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.159.11 with SMTP id l11mr1984544wfo.143.1233609029131; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:10:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0902021054m601b121cg513e2d2cdfb15325@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:10:29 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902021310t72979c1cw82608d4711efa3a9@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 22:10:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987614f209351993019900 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> I forgot to switch to RAW on the E-3 after the eagles, so all my store >> fronts are jpg. Oh well, that won't be a huge issue as I was pretty >> careful with exposure. >> > > > So you DID figure out how to change picture modes? > > AG (Where's that quick-release?) Schnozz I had to go into an actual menu. How embarrassing. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 22:37:08 2009 Received: (qmail 26487 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 21:37:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:37:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA06F43041A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F4A44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12A319FD24 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:36:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C650A19FD0A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:36:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-web16-z02 ([10.127.132.167]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090202213656.XDOE19940.cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com@cdptpa-web16-z02>; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:36:56 +0000 Message-ID: <20090202213656.FESVU.108849.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:36:56 -0500 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Ken Norton Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 22:37:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987678455391869477228 Reflection by far my favorite. Nice mood shot. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Ken Norton wrote: > This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on > Saturday during the outing with Joel. > No film images, though. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 22:38:42 2009 Received: (qmail 9876 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:38:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7436430488 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6CF44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC89D19FD1D for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:38:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE37C19FD0A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:38:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30304 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2009 21:38:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.137.211) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:38:20 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <33F4E6B3-4E03-4627-9C68-D45C3EAE0538@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:38:18 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] More Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 22:38:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498767e2276745368819438 Very pretty - I have relatives who just flew back from a holiday here - 43deg to stone-cold zero. They can't work out which was worse. Now, I have o ask if you've started a whole new style of shooting here - dunny window photography. No doubt there are some fine opportunities but there will be questions asked about 'what the hell were you doing in there?!' Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/02/2009, at 4:14 PM, wrote: > Yesterday evening & today we've actually had an appreciable amount > of snow here - about 6 inches at the moment, pretty unusual for SE > England (& still falling). Realise it's nothing compared to what > many of you regularly experience but it's been sufficient to bring > the country to it's knees, as always... :-) > > Took a pic (E-1) from the lavatory window at work - > > topic_id=1481&msg_id=00SJmG&photo_id=8564492&photo_sel_index=0> > > Happily I'm within walking distance (both of home & the lavatory). > > Cheers - Martyn > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 22:40:56 2009 Received: (qmail 31001 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 21:40:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:40:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55449430459 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC8844004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA2C34AC040 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:40:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F57F34AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:40:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-web16-z02 ([10.127.132.167]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090202214049.SPLS27306.cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com@cdptpa-web16-z02>; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:40:49 +0000 Message-ID: <20090202214049.NVE3K.108908.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:40:49 -0500 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49868D29.3040903@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Moose Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 22:40:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987686821511993019900 I am the archetype, coo-coo-ka-choo! > > Jung might have credited it to synchronicity. ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 22:53:07 2009 Received: (qmail 25561 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 21:53:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:53:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF53A430450 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2D044004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B2419FD06 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:53:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B6119FD02 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:53:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-web16-z02 ([10.127.132.167]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090202215259.XIFE19940.cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com@cdptpa-web16-z02>; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:52:59 +0000 Message-ID: <20090202215259.3NGCR.109116.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:52:59 +0000 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Chris Barker Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 22:53:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49876b43132681585427447 157 looks the best to my eye, but I'm at work and this is a crappy monitor I'm using. Typically, meters don't do well with snow, so you can almost always count on adding an extra stop or so. It's why I shoot RAW. As AG once said, "I shoot RAW because I'm not good enough to shoot jpeg." --Bob www.bwp33.com ---- Chris Barker wrote: > Dear All > > Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed > shots on this gallery: > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 > I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 > correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although > I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all > the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do > not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. > I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 22:58:18 2009 Received: (qmail 9915 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 21:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 21:58:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F7343048A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECB244004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429F734AC037 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:58:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394AB34AC034 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:58:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-web16-z02 ([10.127.132.167]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090202215809.SVDS27306.cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com@cdptpa-web16-z02>; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:58:09 +0000 Message-ID: <20090202215809.QAZ8M.109213.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:58:09 +0000 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Chuck Norcutt Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 22:58:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49876c7a261637927319144 I don't know a freaking thing about the science involved, but some time back I started fiddling with curves in RAW and I like what I'm getting out of my printer. If you use curves in ACR, it provides the use of sliders rather than having to grip the stupid diagonal line and jerk it around. I like sliders. The thing I like best about ACR curves adjustments is really those middle two sliders, which seem to allow to bring up detail brightness and detail without mucking up the picture. But like I said, I know nothing about the science, even to the point of knowing whether your commentary on Chris's pics is the appropriate place for me to stick my $0.02 in. --Bob www.bwp33.com ---- Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I think the camera got the uncompensated exposure exactly "correct". If > you inspect the histogram of the baseline image (1/125 second) you will > see that the tonal range of the image doesn't span the full range of the > histogram. The shadow and highlight ends don't quite reach to the > extremes. The whole histogram is quite nearly centered with both the > shadow and highlight ends balanced at about 1/3 stop from from full range. > > The +1/3 compensation (1/100 second) has run the bright end of the > histogram right up to the verge of being blown out. That would also be > considered a "correct" exposure for one who follows the "expose to the > right" philosophy (as do I). But that assumes you fully intend to work > that image to extract something else from it and it works best with raw > because there may be significant exposure change in post processing. > But the difference in this case is only 1/3 stop and hardly worth > worrying about. > > If you had set the exposure compensation to +0.5 or +1.0 you would have > had a lot of blown highlights. An exposure compensation of +2 might > have been required if (ala OM-4) you had spot metered the snow but, as > it is, the normal metering is picking up a lot of dark trees and > apparently making the right decision uncompensated. > > So, what's the right exposure? Probably the baseline. The image is > improved by increasing the mid-tone brightness but that tends to push > the highlights toward the end. If starting from the +1/3 it would > probably be necessary to back it off a bit to keep the highlights from > washing out as the overall brightness is increased. > > But I think the camera pretty much nailed it. Now it's only up to you > as to how you really want it to look. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Chris Barker wrote: > > Dear All > > > > Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed > > shots on this gallery: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 > > I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 > > correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although > > I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all > > the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do > > not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. > > I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > The scene is in the Reserve of the Royal Society for the Protection of > > Birds (RSPB), not far from my home. My wife works there (for a > > pittance ... :-)). > > > > Chris > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 23:08:38 2009 Received: (qmail 13884 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 22:08:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 22:08:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972E1430456 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6780DD0404A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E97319FE96 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEBF19FD52 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5638 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2009 22:08:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.137.211) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 22:08:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> References: <4987430B.8050700@interisland.net> Message-Id: <1177065F-8D62-4DEA-8B61-C7FF50104F01@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:08:24 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 23:08:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49876ee625421702588592 Pie? - that's a flan! I mean, dya call a quiche a 'pie'?! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/02/2009, at 6:01 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > Robin's pie. (not Canadian :-) ) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 23:08:44 2009 Received: (qmail 3335 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 22:08:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 22:08:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F73430458 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44CD0404A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F3134AC03E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB32B34AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.238]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n12M8XqT011106 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:08:34 +1100 Message-Id: <200902022208.n12M8XqT011106@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail04.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:08:33 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:08:33 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 23:08:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49876eec241797927319144 > John Hermanson <> wrote: > > We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the > > same as "My Passport")? They are quiet, turn off when they're done. > We've had no problems with them. > I have 2 of these which I use for backup, probably have had them for 9 months, no problems so far. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 2 23:30:29 2009 Received: (qmail 25587 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 22:30:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 22:30:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D0E430447 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AA144004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0646119FF97 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:30:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABCD19FFC4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:30:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11220 invoked by uid 502); 2 Feb 2009 22:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.175.127) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 22:30:18 -0000 Message-ID: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:30:12 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 2 23:30:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49877405216561744846740 Jim Nichols wrote: > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-powered external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to suitability for backup use, and reliability? > I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, but it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. I have a couple of earlier external HDs with only USB 2.0, one also with Firewire 400/800, a couple with eSATA and an eSATA docking station (or "toaster"). So far, all eSATA devices I've seen also have a USB 2.0 interface. Specs say USB 2.0 should be slightly faster than Firewire 400. PC users seem to find USB better and Mac user seem to generally find Firewire 400 faster. I don't know how much is perception and how much is actual hardware/software implementation. I haven't noticed any obvious difference. The difference between them and eSATA is huge and immediately obvious. The external drive connection is just the same speed as my internal drives. For regular use as additional HD space, an enclosed device is smaller and prettier. I have a Vantech and a BeyondMicro and both have been flawless in use. For back-up use, where multiple drives and/or remote storage are contemplated, a docking station is most convenient and cost effective, as one needs only one device for multiple HDs. I've been happily using the Thermaltake BlacX docking station that Chuck posted links to more than once. The WD and Seagate back-up hard drive packages are nice marketing, but really offer nothing a toaster or other brand HD enclosure and a free back-up app like SyncBack don't have, but don't offer eSATA. Even if I didn't have eSATA yet, I'd look to the future and get a device that supported both USB 2.0 and eSATA. Before I went eSATA, I looked at the MyBooks and similar devices. As I recall there were some reports of overheating related failures of MyBooks in user reviews. What % of users that might represent and what local conditions might contribute to the problem, I don't know. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 00:18:05 2009 Received: (qmail 17185 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 23:18:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 23:18:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B96D430458 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424B744004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2628434AC001 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203E134AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGT64769 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:17:55 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 00:18:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49877f2d311081591313764 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 00:19:46 2009 Received: (qmail 8485 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 23:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 23:19:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F3430450 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ABD44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0551CD486 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:19:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A89F1CD483 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:19:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:19:38 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12NJZCh024030 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:19:36 GMT Message-ID: <1A03F7BDC0364720988F0A8F96C13096@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902022208.n12M8XqT011106@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:19:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 00:19:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49877f92213171035110158 Thanks, Wayne. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Harridge" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered ExternalDrives > > > > >> John Hermanson <> wrote: >> >> We each have WD 500G My Book USB2 on our computers (are these almost the >> >> same as "My Passport")? They are quiet, turn off when they're done. >> We've had no problems with them. >> > > I have 2 of these which I use for backup, probably have had them for 9 > months, no problems so far. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 00:22:47 2009 Received: (qmail 31341 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 23:22:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 23:22:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A193443046B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EA444004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6862034AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:22:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD60934AC001 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 12 days 22:01:16 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with SMTP id n12NMYrJ013879 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 23:22:37 GMT Message-ID: <460CDD45BC6B48BC83BDB46A4226DD42@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:22:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 00:22:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49878047246511823421471 Thanks, Moose. Since I only backup once a week, speed is not an issue for me. Your setup, however, does sound interesting. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives > Jim Nichols wrote: >> Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB >> 2.0-powered external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these >> as to suitability for backup use, and reliability? >> > > I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is > WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it > shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, but > it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. > > I have a couple of earlier external HDs with only USB 2.0, one also with > Firewire 400/800, a couple with eSATA and an eSATA docking station (or > "toaster"). So far, all eSATA devices I've seen also have a USB 2.0 > interface. Specs say USB 2.0 should be slightly faster than Firewire > 400. PC users seem to find USB better and Mac user seem to generally > find Firewire 400 faster. I don't know how much is perception and how > much is actual hardware/software implementation. I haven't noticed any > obvious difference. > > The difference between them and eSATA is huge and immediately obvious. > The external drive connection is just the same speed as my internal > drives. For regular use as additional HD space, an enclosed device is > smaller and prettier. I have a Vantech and a BeyondMicro and both have > been flawless in use. For back-up use, where multiple drives and/or > remote storage are contemplated, a docking station is most convenient > and cost effective, as one needs only one device for multiple HDs. I've > been happily using the Thermaltake BlacX docking station that Chuck > posted links to more than once. > > > > The WD and Seagate back-up hard drive packages are nice marketing, but > really offer nothing a toaster or other brand HD enclosure and a free > back-up app like SyncBack don't have, but don't offer eSATA. Even if I > didn't have eSATA yet, I'd look to the future and get a device that > supported both USB 2.0 and eSATA. > > Before I went eSATA, I looked at the MyBooks and similar devices. As I > recall there were some reports of overheating related failures of > MyBooks in user reviews. What % of users that might represent and what > local conditions might contribute to the problem, I don't know. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 00:23:30 2009 Received: (qmail 5190 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 23:23:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 23:23:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C56430450 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A931944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A6D34AC032 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:23:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEAE34AC001 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:23:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:23:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19716 invoked by uid 504); 2 Feb 2009 23:23:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Feb 2009 23:23:21 -0000 Message-ID: <49878068.8060809@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:23:20 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-0, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 00:23:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987807218041499373980 Keep in mind that your view of eSATA performance is based on a direct motherboard connection at native SATA 2 speed (3 Gbits/second). However, many here who might use an eSATA adapter card might not see the performance advantage you see. If a PCI eSATA adapter is used it is limited to the 133 M Bytes/second of the PCI bus which equates to approx 1 Gbits/second. If using a PCIe version 1 adapter it will be able to support 2 G bits/second which is faster than the eSATA transfer rate of 1.5 G bits/second but slower than the 3 G bits/second of eSATA 2. Any PCI or PCIe eSATA adapter will work but most drives on the market today are eSATA 2 and run at the faster rate which requires a PCIe version 2 or version 3 adapter if the full speed of the drive is to be realized. Which of these adapters can be used will depend on the motherboard. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > > I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is > WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it > shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, but > it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. > > I have a couple of earlier external HDs with only USB 2.0, one also with > Firewire 400/800, a couple with eSATA and an eSATA docking station (or > "toaster"). So far, all eSATA devices I've seen also have a USB 2.0 > interface. Specs say USB 2.0 should be slightly faster than Firewire > 400. PC users seem to find USB better and Mac user seem to generally > find Firewire 400 faster. I don't know how much is perception and how > much is actual hardware/software implementation. I haven't noticed any > obvious difference. > > The difference between them and eSATA is huge and immediately obvious. > The external drive connection is just the same speed as my internal > drives. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 00:26:37 2009 Received: (qmail 1191 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2009 23:26:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Feb 2009 23:26:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BB54304A5 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D96744004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DA434AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E0734AC037 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id DAD93A6B7G for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:26:27 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:25:36 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... Thread-Index: AcmFjIBzne3SZaX5QT2QYJ6HDafRTQAANVrw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2009 23:26:28.0079 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC1637F0:01C9858D] Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 00:26:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987812d92003675314703 >>http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >>Some food, some people, and general merriment. I like 11, but is that the note letter values I see on the keys?? And I like the band's name. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 00:33:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498782d8105271234514069 On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Timpe, Jim wrote: >>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >>> Some food, some people, and general merriment. > > I like 11, but is that the note letter values I see on the keys?? > And I like the band's name. > Jim Yup, note letter keys. They pulled that keyboard out from somewhere, it's not the bands, at least don't think so--they had had a much nicer one. This was a spoof, where the bandmeister "happen" to call upon certain audience members during dinner and said "ok you guys play" -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 01:30:30 2009 Received: (qmail 5500 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 00:30:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 00:30:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E963D4304B4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2746B44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0240934AC02A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:30:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093A234AC003 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:30:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n130UITj005969 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:19 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 01:30:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987902642271869477228 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB and I can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same PC). I believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited the data rate a lot. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" > > I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is > WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it > shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, but > it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 02:39:45 2009 Received: (qmail 20874 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD02430490 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B54B44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E29A34AC028 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF0E34AC034 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from blu0-omc3-s32.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s32.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.107]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP90 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s32.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:36 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [69.158.7.161] X-Originating-Email: [andrew.gullen@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Received: from [69.158.7.161] ([69.158.7.161]) by BLU0-SMTP90.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <705060632.228311233459974927.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <705060632.228311233459974927.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: Andrew Gullen Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:38:29 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2009 01:39:35.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[44F44310:01C985A0] Subject: Re: [OM] Question on use of OM adaptall2 on a 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 02:39:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987a06117711823421471 There's an art to making toast, Never try to guess: Toast until it smokes and then twenty seconds less. (author unfortunately forgotten) Andrew On Jan 31, 2009, at 22:46, Don Holbrook wrote: > Overfill the screw hole and, just before it sets, carefully slice the > glue flush with a single edge razor blade (not too soon, not too > late). I've used several glue types - all worked. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chuck Norcutt > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:19:44 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: Re: [OM] Question on use of OM adaptall2 on a 4T > -snip- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 02:51:13 2009 Received: (qmail 12283 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 01:51:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 01:51:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81ABC430486 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEF744004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4638434AC028 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3B034AC037 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so1735795wfd.26 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:51:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.192.1 with SMTP id p1mr2020797wff.17.1233625864691; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:51:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:04 -0800 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0902021751r5d61ab18ldc3a4d8a38ec2f38@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] examples of Street photography X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 02:51:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987a311158761591313764 Someone from the Leica list just got his pictures exhibited at the Leica headquarter. They are examples of good Street Photography, IMHO http://us.leica-camera.com/culture/galeries/gallery_solms/ -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 02:52:03 2009 Received: (qmail 22249 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 01:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 01:52:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D6D4304AD for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD7D44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE30334AC034 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1387434AC028 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16216 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 01:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 01:51:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4987A339.80507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:51:53 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 02:52:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987a343102883675314703 AS I said the other day, disks spend a lot of time just trying to get to were they're going and, once they get there, waiting on the correct data to rotate around to where the head is. They all seek to where they're going at very similar rates and, assuming the same RPM on the platters, they all wait at the same speed. Actual data throughput gets dragged down by all the mechanical delays. But do be aware of what you're comparing. If you are simply reading from the USB drive into memory but reading and writing between the two SATA drives then the write operation has the SATA drives at a big disadvantage. Writing takes longer than reading and the reading from drive 1 can't go any faster then the writing to drive 2 once the cache is full. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB and I > can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same PC). I > believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited the > data rate a lot. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Moose" >> I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is >> WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it >> shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, but >> it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 03:20:31 2009 Received: (qmail 1901 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 02:20:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 02:20:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12901430489 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907E844004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8432434AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:20:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E7034AC006 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:20:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so774588fgb.36 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:20:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr151454fgb.40.1233627624979; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:20:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:20:24 +0000 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 03:20:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987a9ef59641499373980 Good weather today in Leeds: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/leeds Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 03:27:40 2009 Received: (qmail 25424 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 02:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 02:27:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08704304D4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A727044004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D951CD481 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:27:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CEB1CD482 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:27:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.244]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1784921rvb.50 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.202.17 with SMTP id e17mr1344219rvq.84.1233628054608; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm4781780rvb.5.2009.02.02.18.27.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:27:33 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <5EDC2094-D4E3-4DC1-86FB-3CDD296235DB@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:27:22 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 03:27:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987ab9c325241499373980 1142 and 1133 - i'm a sucker for night photos, and snow, and wintery shots like these. thanks for sharing :) nico. On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Tom Fenwick wrote: Good weather today in Leeds: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/leeds Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 03:58:54 2009 Received: (qmail 19151 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 02:58:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 02:58:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B1143049A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53F444004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BAE34AC03E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:58:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06BF34AC034 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:58:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.65]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 50211 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2009 02:58:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uO6uYb8VM1mbEnontcTukLJMC5ZTYqWY8VcfojKxLtT58UdG2Og3SQVo3FiUEgIGQprxg5rJdQoZ6DwFt8jcLwJbcVXbj5ZD1DUUA8phoTE2XV_EjrZLId83r7tBvVKQOVKRNCHKpeal.UHjqMaZgDAfsz5VAjwYV_9z23lSM.DNbOQY7cTSMbu3rQ.RE4QLqd14dH8- Received: from [69.204.7.197] by web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:58:47 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:58:47 -0800 (PST) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <241780.48092.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 03:58:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987b2ee45271257536491 I love the cross: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229#/photo.php?pid=34535045&id=6313229&l=da23a Very nice! --- On Mon, 2/2/09, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > From: siddiq@ucr.edu > Subject: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 6:17 PM > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 > > Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly > as good as > Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony > Alpha 100 + > Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 04:21:02 2009 Received: (qmail 5820 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 03:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 03:21:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEABC4304CA for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3DF44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C421CD486 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:20:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEAE1CD483 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:20:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 8 days 01:48:05 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-217.ctimail.com [61.93.57.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n133KnAj014521 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:20:50 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n133KnrH021451 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:20:49 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <2154C9D6ABAF4B7893AF8745626FA7D8@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <4987A339.80507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:20:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 04:21:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987b81e134577350615338 So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing time is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > AS I said the other day, disks spend a lot of time just trying to get to > were they're going and, once they get there, waiting on the correct data > to rotate around to where the head is. They all seek to where they're > going at very similar rates and, assuming the same RPM on the platters, > they all wait at the same speed. Actual data throughput gets dragged > down by all the mechanical delays. > > But do be aware of what you're comparing. If you are simply reading > from the USB drive into memory but reading and writing between the two > SATA drives then the write operation has the SATA drives at a big > disadvantage. Writing takes longer than reading and the reading from > drive 1 can't go any faster then the writing to drive 2 once the cache > is full. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB >> and I >> can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same >> PC). I >> believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited >> the >> data rate a lot. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Moose" >>> I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is >>> WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it >>> shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, but >>> it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. >>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 04:49:17 2009 Received: (qmail 9992 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 03:49:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 03:49:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F2F4304AC for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF17944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87B934AC02A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:49:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B505434AC029 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:49:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-180.ctimail.com [61.93.57.180]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n133n9sn017052 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:09 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n133n8So026583 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:08 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com><4987A339.80507@chucknorcutt.com> <2154C9D6ABAF4B7893AF8745626FA7D8@main> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 04:49:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987bebd167831257536491 Sorry, overlooked the second part. I did the comparison by copying SATA to USB and SATA to SATA with the same 20GB data. I have not tried to check the Read rate only. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.H.Ling" > So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing time > is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > >> AS I said the other day, disks spend a lot of time just trying to get to >> were they're going and, once they get there, waiting on the correct data >> to rotate around to where the head is. They all seek to where they're >> going at very similar rates and, assuming the same RPM on the platters, >> they all wait at the same speed. Actual data throughput gets dragged >> down by all the mechanical delays. >> >> But do be aware of what you're comparing. If you are simply reading >> from the USB drive into memory but reading and writing between the two >> SATA drives then the write operation has the SATA drives at a big >> disadvantage. Writing takes longer than reading and the reading from >> drive 1 can't go any faster then the writing to drive 2 once the cache >> is full. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> C.H.Ling wrote: >>> 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB >>> and I >>> can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same >>> PC). I >>> believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited >>> the >>> data rate a lot. >>> >>> C.H.Ling >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Moose" >>>> I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is >>>> WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it >>>> shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, >>>> but >>>> it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. >>>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 04:57:53 2009 Received: (qmail 12921 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 03:57:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 03:57:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D3E4304D4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544FA44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385F034AC02A for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:57:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501BD34AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:57:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3237 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 03:57:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 03:57:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4987C0B7.9050503@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:57:43 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <241780.48092.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <241780.48092.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 04:57:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987c0c136021470116606 Yes, I did too. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > I love the cross: > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229#/photo.php?pid=34535045&id=6313229&l=da23a > > Very nice! > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 05:02:26 2009 Received: (qmail 8621 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 04:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 04:02:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDCB4304A8 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C915A44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D631CD487 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B701C1CD488 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.172]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1342HNU020390 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:02:18 +1100 Message-Id: <200902030402.n1342HNU020390@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail10.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:02:17 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:02:17 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 05:02:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987c1d2243311823421471 > Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: > > > But do be aware of what you're comparing. If you are simply reading > from the USB drive into memory but reading and writing between the two > SATA drives then the write operation has the SATA drives at a big > disadvantage. Writing takes longer than reading and the reading from > drive 1 can't go any faster then the writing to drive 2 once the cache > is full. > Other factors that might be involved: sharing of the bus and/or controller between the 2 drives. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 05:02:47 2009 Received: (qmail 31636 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 04:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 04:02:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA55430488 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CAB44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87CD34AC03F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971934AC02B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5934 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 04:02:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 04:02:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4987C1DF.5000009@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:02:39 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com><4987A339.80507@chucknorcutt.com> <2154C9D6ABAF4B7893AF8745626FA7D8@main> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 05:02:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987c1e7214481838542571 Probably a fair test if the drives were otherwise fairly empty such that the source data was relatively sequentially organized on the drive. Otherwise, if the data was scattered on one drive and not the other, seek and rotational delays would be greater on the drive with the scattered data. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > Sorry, overlooked the second part. I did the comparison by copying SATA to > USB and SATA to SATA with the same 20GB data. I have not tried to check the > Read rate only. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C.H.Ling" > >> So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing time >> is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chuck Norcutt" >> >>> AS I said the other day, disks spend a lot of time just trying to get to >>> were they're going and, once they get there, waiting on the correct data >>> to rotate around to where the head is. They all seek to where they're >>> going at very similar rates and, assuming the same RPM on the platters, >>> they all wait at the same speed. Actual data throughput gets dragged >>> down by all the mechanical delays. >>> >>> But do be aware of what you're comparing. If you are simply reading >>> from the USB drive into memory but reading and writing between the two >>> SATA drives then the write operation has the SATA drives at a big >>> disadvantage. Writing takes longer than reading and the reading from >>> drive 1 can't go any faster then the writing to drive 2 once the cache >>> is full. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> C.H.Ling wrote: >>>> 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB >>>> and I >>>> can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same >>>> PC). I >>>> believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited >>>> the >>>> data rate a lot. >>>> >>>> C.H.Ling >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Moose" >>>>> I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is >>>>> WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe it >>>>> shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, >>>>> but >>>>> it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. >>>>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 06:36:57 2009 Received: (qmail 5764 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 05:36:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 05:36:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2D2430512 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F3244004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519D134AC041 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:36:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863F34AC03E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:36:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 8 days 04:03:58 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-179.ctimail.com [61.93.57.179]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n135agFa024625 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:36:42 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n135agCF013196 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:36:42 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <84DFE7AE96ED4A19A5299DF76BDCADCB@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com><4987A339.80507@chucknorcutt.com> <2154C9D6ABAF4B7893AF8745626FA7D8@main> <4987C1DF.5000009@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:36:37 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 06:36:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987d7f9222429347015869 My experience is if you have a large set of files to copy the result is quite accurate (did many tests in the pass twenty years), I bet no more than 20% variation in most cases unless your dirve is almost full. To gain more speed you better go with a 10000rpm drive or a RAID setup. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > Probably a fair test if the drives were otherwise fairly empty such that > the source data was relatively sequentially organized on the drive. > Otherwise, if the data was scattered on one drive and not the other, > seek and rotational delays would be greater on the drive with the > scattered data. > > Chuck Norcutt > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Sorry, overlooked the second part. I did the comparison by copying SATA >> to >> USB and SATA to SATA with the same 20GB data. I have not tried to check >> the >> Read rate only. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "C.H.Ling" >> >>> So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing >>> time >>> is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. >>> >>> C.H.Ling >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" >>> >>>> AS I said the other day, disks spend a lot of time just trying to get >>>> to >>>> were they're going and, once they get there, waiting on the correct >>>> data >>>> to rotate around to where the head is. They all seek to where they're >>>> going at very similar rates and, assuming the same RPM on the platters, >>>> they all wait at the same speed. Actual data throughput gets dragged >>>> down by all the mechanical delays. >>>> >>>> But do be aware of what you're comparing. If you are simply reading >>>> from the USB drive into memory but reading and writing between the two >>>> SATA drives then the write operation has the SATA drives at a big >>>> disadvantage. Writing takes longer than reading and the reading from >>>> drive 1 can't go any faster then the writing to drive 2 once the cache >>>> is full. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>> C.H.Ling wrote: >>>>> 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB >>>>> and I >>>>> can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same >>>>> PC). I >>>>> believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer >>>>> limited >>>>> the >>>>> data rate a lot. >>>>> >>>>> C.H.Ling >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Moose" >>>>>> I'm simply not buying any external HD which is USB 2.0 only. eSATA is >>>>>> WAY faster, 5x the speed, and only a very few $ more, if that. Maybe >>>>>> it >>>>>> shouldn't make a difference for a drive planned for backup use only, >>>>>> but >>>>>> it does for me. I simply find it easier when the process goes faster. >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 06:55:07 2009 Received: (qmail 14759 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 05:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 05:55:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335D4304C5 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D154144004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B0734AC041 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A4534AC03E for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15531 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 05:54:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.195.56) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 05:54:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:54:51 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 06:55:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987dc3b65351993019900 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I think the camera got the uncompensated exposure exactly "correct". .... > Just the conclusion I reached. > The +1/3 compensation ... would also be considered a "correct" exposure ... > Again agreed. Perfectly usable, with no loss of tonal detail. > If you had set the exposure compensation to +0.5 or +1.0 you would have had a lot of blown highlights. Yup. Mostly in the sky. The big lump of snow tones are quite a way down in the histogram. > An exposure compensation of +2 might have been required if (ala OM-4) you had spot metered the snow but, as it is, the normal metering is picking up a lot of dark trees and apparently making the right decision uncompensated. > Not only the fairly substantial area of lesser reflectance than the snow, but the heavy overcast mean that this is not, in fact, a "snow compensation" subject. Clear the sky for direct sun on this subject, and it would be so. > So, what's the right exposure? Probably the baseline. Yup. > The image is improved by increasing the mid-tone brightness but that tends to push the highlights toward the end. If starting from the +1/3 it would probably be necessary to back it off a bit to keep the highlights from washing out as the overall brightness is increased. > > But I think the camera pretty much nailed it. Well ... Yes and no, from my perspective. this is one of those shots where I disagree with the "Get it right in the camera and avoid the evil of post processing." viewpoint. I suspect there are photographers out there who could pick the right film, lens and exposure to give this subject some real life in a slide or print. I'm not one of them, nor ever likely to be. The thousands of hours of practice and experience needed to reach that level don't appeal to me. I offer the work of far less than an hour as an alternative. The problem with this shot out of the camera is not brightness, per se, but tonal locations, local, area and overall contrast and lack of sharpening. Sharpening is important for the top part of this kind of image as it highlights the contrast between snow and the many branches so they don't mush together. Foreground, background and woman each treated separately. > Now it's only up to you as to how you really want it to look. > Indeed, that's why I offered three levels of brightening. Hard to tell from here how bright and crisp the day looked to those who were there. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 06:55:35 2009 Received: (qmail 11033 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 05:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 05:55:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8494304D4 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238AA44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAD31CD481 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.001 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5791CD482 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCD54615EE for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:14:21 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <8B5B2771-1AA4-4BEA-8746-24B19B94545D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:55:27 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 06:55:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987dc57268382046811720 Thanks for talking this through, Chuck. According to the histogram on the RAW file, I could increase the exposure by another .3 and still retain all the highlights. I have tried this with both the +0.3 and 0.0 EV versions (i.e. to a total of +0.6 overall). So you're right, of course, that a starting positive compensation of 0.5 or more would have blown the highlights, but only on the highest exposure version. And you're right that the result is up to me: it's good to have a choice :-) Chris On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:18, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I think the camera got the uncompensated exposure exactly > "correct". If > you inspect the histogram of the baseline image (1/125 second) you > will > see that the tonal range of the image doesn't span the full range of > the > histogram. The shadow and highlight ends don't quite reach to the > extremes. The whole histogram is quite nearly centered with both the > shadow and highlight ends balanced at about 1/3 stop from from full > range. > > The +1/3 compensation (1/100 second) has run the bright end of the > histogram right up to the verge of being blown out. That would also > be > considered a "correct" exposure for one who follows the "expose to the > right" philosophy (as do I). But that assumes you fully intend to > work > that image to extract something else from it and it works best with > raw > because there may be significant exposure change in post processing. > But the difference in this case is only 1/3 stop and hardly worth > worrying about. > > If you had set the exposure compensation to +0.5 or +1.0 you would > have > had a lot of blown highlights. An exposure compensation of +2 might > have been required if (ala OM-4) you had spot metered the snow but, as > it is, the normal metering is picking up a lot of dark trees and > apparently making the right decision uncompensated. > > So, what's the right exposure? Probably the baseline. The image is > improved by increasing the mid-tone brightness but that tends to push > the highlights toward the end. If starting from the +1/3 it would > probably be necessary to back it off a bit to keep the highlights from > washing out as the overall brightness is increased. > > But I think the camera pretty much nailed it. Now it's only up to you > as to how you really want it to look. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 07:05:11 2009 Received: (qmail 888 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 06:05:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 06:05:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304A6430516 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54F944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB26B1CD482 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F651CD481 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYG39674 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:05:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <520AE3F5-D131-4533-9B85-B381789A3EFB@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:04:52 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 07:05:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987de9720731342116753 On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Good weather today in Leeds: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/leeds That second to last sepia toned tree looks like it's not real! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 07:46:28 2009 Received: (qmail 27914 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 06:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 06:46:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EF2430522 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5F944004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB861CD485 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:46:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13BE1CD484 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D02C96D1 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:07:53 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:46:17 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 07:46:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987e8445454673671140 Thanks, Moose. The result is attractive, and I found it interesting that you used the -0.3EV version. The day was crisp only among the trees; in the open it was still snowing and another shot of my wife coming out of her place of work resulted in her being out of focus as the system has (cleverly, I suppose) focused on the snow: http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 So it wasn't very crisp at all ... Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 05:54, Moose wrote: >> >> The image is improved by increasing the mid-tone brightness but >> that tends to push the highlights toward the end. If starting from >> the +1/3 it would probably be necessary to back it off a bit to >> keep the highlights from washing out as the overall brightness is >> increased. >> >> But I think the camera pretty much nailed it. > > Well ... Yes and no, from my perspective. this is one of those shots > where I disagree with the "Get it right in the camera and avoid the > evil > of post processing." viewpoint. I suspect there are photographers out > there who could pick the right film, lens and exposure to give this > subject some real life in a slide or print. I'm not one of them, nor > ever likely to be. The thousands of hours of practice and experience > needed to reach that level don't appeal to me. > > I offer the work of far less than an hour as an alternative. > > > The problem with this shot out of the camera is not brightness, per > se, > but tonal locations, local, area and overall contrast and lack of > sharpening. Sharpening is important for the top part of this kind of > image as it highlights the contrast between snow and the many branches > so they don't mush together. Foreground, background and woman each > treated separately. > >> Now it's only up to you as to how you really want it to look. >> > > Indeed, that's why I offered three levels of brightening. Hard to tell > from here how bright and crisp the day looked to those who were there. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 09:25:26 2009 Received: (qmail 27868 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 08:25:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 08:25:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101514303FA for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C819844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B4A34AC043 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:25:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E5634AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:25:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 00:29:57 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from smtp3.dyxs.nl (199-61.bbned.dsl.internl.net [92.254.61.199]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.10.12] (rt25bb146-89-44.routit.net [89.146.25.44]) by smtp3.dyxs.nl with ESMTP (Mailtraq/2.11.0.2198) id SMTP97B009D5 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:55:03 +0100 Message-Id: <7F2A1F2E-1157-4391-A3A1-494CEDD1D06D@millennics.com> From: Olaf Greve To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8CB253A39E94409-D8C-843@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:55:01 +0100 References: <8CB253A39E94409-D8C-843@WEBMAIL-DC13.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] TOPE 37: time to send in entries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 09:25:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4987ff7612425368819438 Hi guys, I just realised that I had forgotten to mention that the TOPE 37 "Signs" shooting interval is over, and that one can start sending in entries for it (if you hadn't done so already). The planned go-live date for TOPE 37 will be Wednesday, February 11th. Cheers! Olafo Main page: http://www.tope.nl Direct link to the complete TOPE Events calendar: http://www.tope.nl/events.php -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 10:58:17 2009 Received: (qmail 30469 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 09:58:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 09:58:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F574303D9 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB8F44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8693734AC045 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:58:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C986C34AC043 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:58:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23508 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 09:58:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.172.184) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 09:58:07 -0000 Message-ID: <49881529.10507@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:58:01 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 10:58:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988153983961499373980 Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Moose. The result is attractive, Thanks > and I found it interesting that you used the -0.3EV version. > I did? I thought I used the 0EV one. That's what I meant to do. -0.3EV was to far down, with a very few lost shadows tones. > The day was crisp only among the trees; in the open it was still snowing and another shot of my wife coming out of her place of work resulted in her being out of focus as the system has (cleverly, I suppose) focused on the snow: > I could make it duller if you want. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 11:47:45 2009 Received: (qmail 1074 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 10:47:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 10:47:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C35B4304E6 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:47:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7C844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6D319E0FB for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:47:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8840B19E0F9 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:47:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12745 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 10:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.174.39) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 10:47:36 -0000 Message-ID: <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:47:30 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> In-Reply-To: <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 11:47:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498820d1220301702588592 siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > I think .3 is too little, I have a difficult time with which is which. > ... makes three files to merge, considering how much range there is from light to dark, and merge in post. > I agree with Chuck. Proposing bracketing and HDR is an example of mis-diagnosis of image tonality. The entire range of brightness in the subject has been captured in the one, 0EV shot. That's not at all surprising, as the scene is actually rather low in contrast, ranging from black to light gray. I see HDR images being made all the time where nothing beyond a single, properly exposed image was needed. When an image looks dull, flat, the first place to look is at the histogram, not to HDR. There are indeed subjects that will benefit from bracketing and combining to capture the whole brightness range, but it seems to me that they are a rather small minority of those to which HDR is being applied. The other amusing thing is when people convert three (or more?) output images from one RAW file, then combine them to capture more brightness range. In reality, RAW files are 12 or 14 bit. RAW converters are capable of reading all thos bits at once and outputting 16 bit files. They have a greater tonal range than the input, so everything in the RAW file is available in one conversion. Adjusting the RAW converter to avoid clipping shadows or highlights beyond what are already lost in the RAW file gets all that's in that RAW file in one pass. Don't get me wrong. I understand that HDR apps are used to get all sorts of effects beyond simply extending the natural looking dynamic range of the subject. Some I like, some not, but HDR software is obviously a fun thing to use in that way. But if one is looking for a reasonably natural rendition of a wide dynamic range subject, first check the histogram. Adjust EV and reshoot as necessary. Then learn how to process images without HDR. I've bracketed a lot of images, thinking I would need to combine them. To date, that hasn't been the case. Especially with contemporary DSLRs, there is a wide dynamic range available, enough for the vast majority of subjects. Even with a simple, JPEG output only digicam, you might be amazed what is in the image that isn't obvious. I took 2 or 3 shots of this one, but only needed one for the finished product. I shot to the right to retain highlights, low ISO for low noise, then bring up the shadows. It was all there in one shot. There are a few other examples in this gallery. Much the same problem is shown in some of your shots that I messed with, especially the food shots and the two of women with bright backgrounds behind them. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 12:32:13 2009 Received: (qmail 15502 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 11:32:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 11:32:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D184303C1 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 03:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFE844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 03:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF9034AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 03:32:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6F234AC034 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 03:32:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 03:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32203 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 11:32:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.173.129) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 11:32:01 -0000 Message-ID: <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:31:54 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 12:32:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49882b3d327651234514069 C.H.Ling wrote: > 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB and I can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same PC). I believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited the data rate a lot. > I have not done any careful comparisons, as a big difference was readily apparent just watching the progress of a copy operation. I've now done a very simple one. I've compared only read speeds for small pieces of data - for the simple reason that my free version of HDTune only does that. I think the results are instructive. Unfortunately, the program also rescales the graph height, so you need to look at the vertical scale and/or the numbers on the right. Both tests are of the same drive in the same docking station. The top one is eSATA. It shows the typical shape, flat at first, then tapering down as latency becomes greater as the circumference of the tracks increases farther out on the platters. In fact, it's a better than average plot, with a long high speed section. As it does slope down slightly right from the start, I believe the limitation is the disk itself, not the connections. The second plot is of the same equipment, but using the USB 2.0 HSE connection. The dead flat plot is a clear indication that the USB connection is the limiting factor in speed. So at least for read speed, the 5x raw spec is optimistic for this drive. On the other hand, 85.4/27.2 is still 3x. To date, I've only filled part of the 1.5Tb drive, so I am still seeing something like the 90 MB/sec part of the curve. But again, the limitation is the drive, not the eSATA connection, so this test doesn't say what that might be capable of. C.H.Ling wrote: > So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing time is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. I assume you meant to say "writing time is also *not* very important". Sure, but the price difference between USB only and USB & eSATA was only $US5. So why not go with the faster interface? The docking station can handle any 3.5" or 2.5" SATA drive. The possibilities for other tasks, where speed could make a difference, are there. C.H.Ling wrote: > My experience is if you have a large set of files to copy the result is quite accurate (did many tests in the pass twenty years), I bet no more than 20% variation in most cases unless your dirve is almost full. I've never measured that. Frankly, I doubt is I will. It's obvious to me from experience that eSATA is much faster. Just how much I don't need to quantify. As Chuck said, such a test is only valid if all drives are defragmented before testing. > To gain more speed you better go with a 10000rpm drive or a RAID setup. That is much more expensive than a simple eSATA appliance. And the higher speed drives don't come in the largest sizes, at least that I've seen. Another other factor to consider is that the 1TB and larger drives use vertical recording, so the bit density is higher and any given read speed can generate a higher output speed. The drive I tested has that advantage. So I added a test of a WD 500GB drive without vertical recording to the example. This is an internal drive, directly connected to the MB SATA header. As you can see, the graph starts much lower and drops much faster than the 1TB drive. So it appears that the advantage of eSATA may be greater for 1TB and larger drives. 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In reality, RAW files are 12 or 14 bit. RAW converters are capable of reading all thos bits at once and outputting 16 bit files. They have a greater tonal range than the input, so everything in the RAW file is available in one conversion. I should have been more precise: "They work in 16-bit and are capable of handling a greater tonal range than is in the input, so everything in the RAW file is available in one conversion." 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(VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 13:07:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49883395139671257536491 Someday we'll be on solid state drives. Then the speed will really increase. :-) Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > My experience is if you have a large set of files to copy the result is > quite accurate (did many tests in the pass twenty years), I bet no more than > 20% variation in most cases unless your dirve is almost full. To gain more > speed you better go with a 10000rpm drive or a RAID setup. > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 13:14:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8058 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 12:14:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 12:14:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0195C4303C3 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC4C44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8989219E3D7 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:14:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5EF19E3D3 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:14:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 548 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 12:14:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 12:14:34 -0000 Message-ID: <4988352A.7050102@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:14:34 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <520AE3F5-D131-4533-9B85-B381789A3EFB@ucr.edu> In-Reply-To: <520AE3F5-D131-4533-9B85-B381789A3EFB@ucr.edu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 13:14:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49883531111557927319144 I suspect that it's because it's not a sepia toned B&W conversion. Appears to me to be a full color image. It think that's "natural" color. Note the yellow street light in the distance and the very blue snow on the rooftop in the distance. I think there's a yellow glow on the foreground snow from another yellowish streetlight. Chuck Norcutt siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > >> Good weather today in Leeds: >> >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/leeds > > That second to last sepia toned tree looks like it's not real! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 13:31:07 2009 Received: (qmail 19892 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 12:31:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 12:31:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BCA4303FB for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF8244004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6053E34AC041 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:31:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9ED934AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:30:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 04:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n13CUrXT026260 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:30:54 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:30:48 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 13:31:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988390b23821702588592 I will not put all my trust to one test program as I don't know how it was wrote, if you only read or write a small file you will not see the truth. My Pinnacle Studio reported the R/W speed of my SATA drive as 39.6/29.8MB (ok, it is an old drive) and the USB drive as 29.5/25MB. Why not simply copy a folder full of files and compare the result? It is how I use my backup drives. I'm not arguing the $5 difference, I will also go for the duo version, just don't belive there is such a big difference (even 3x not to mention 5x). C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" > C.H.Ling wrote: >> 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB >> and I can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the >> same PC). I believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the >> computer limited the data rate a lot. >> > > I have not done any careful comparisons, as a big difference was readily > apparent just watching the progress of a copy operation. I've now done a > very simple one. I've compared only read speeds for small pieces of data > - for the simple reason that my free version of HDTune only does that. I > think the results are instructive. > > > Unfortunately, the program also rescales the graph height, so you need > to look at the vertical scale and/or the numbers on the right. Both > tests are of the same drive in the same docking station. The top one is > eSATA. It shows the typical shape, flat at first, then tapering down as > latency becomes greater as the circumference of the tracks increases > farther out on the platters. In fact, it's a better than average plot, > with a long high speed section. As it does slope down slightly right > from the start, I believe the limitation is the disk itself, not the > connections. > > The second plot is of the same equipment, but using the USB 2.0 HSE > connection. The dead flat plot is a clear indication that the USB > connection is the limiting factor in speed. So at least for read speed, > the 5x raw spec is optimistic for this drive. On the other hand, > 85.4/27.2 is still 3x. To date, I've only filled part of the 1.5Tb > drive, so I am still seeing something like the 90 MB/sec part of the > curve. > > But again, the limitation is the drive, not the eSATA connection, so > this test doesn't say what that might be capable of. > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing >> time is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. > > I assume you meant to say "writing time is also *not* very important". > > Sure, but the price difference between USB only and USB & eSATA was only > $US5. So why not go with the faster interface? The docking station can > handle any 3.5" or 2.5" SATA drive. The possibilities for other tasks, > where speed could make a difference, are there. > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> My experience is if you have a large set of files to copy the result is >> quite accurate (did many tests in the pass twenty years), I bet no more >> than 20% variation in most cases unless your dirve is almost full. > > I've never measured that. Frankly, I doubt is I will. It's obvious to me > from experience that eSATA is much faster. Just how much I don't need to > quantify. > > As Chuck said, such a test is only valid if all drives are defragmented > before testing. > >> To gain more speed you better go with a 10000rpm drive or a RAID setup. > > That is much more expensive than a simple eSATA appliance. And the > higher speed drives don't come in the largest sizes, at least that I've > seen. > > Another other factor to consider is that the 1TB and larger drives use > vertical recording, so the bit density is higher and any given read > speed can generate a higher output speed. The drive I tested has that > advantage. So I added a test of a WD 500GB drive without vertical > recording to the example. This is an internal drive, directly connected > to the MB SATA header. > > As you can see, the graph starts much lower and drops much faster than > the 1TB drive. So it appears that the advantage of eSATA may be greater > for 1TB and larger drives. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 14:04:42 2009 Received: (qmail 21692 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 13:04:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 13:04:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9A4303FC for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CA544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B822234AC03E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:04:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA4034AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so889874fgb.36 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:04:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.79.4 with SMTP id c4mr167583fgb.56.1233666271795; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:04:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4988352A.7050102@chucknorcutt.com> References: <520AE3F5-D131-4533-9B85-B381789A3EFB@ucr.edu> <4988352A.7050102@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:04:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 14:04:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498840ea239331234514069 Indeed. Monochrome lighting, more or less. Tom 2009/2/3 Chuck Norcutt > I suspect that it's because it's not a sepia toned B&W conversion. > Appears to me to be a full color image. It think that's "natural" > color. Note the yellow street light in the distance and the very blue > snow on the rooftop in the distance. I think there's a yellow glow on > the foreground snow from another yellowish streetlight. > > Chuck Norcutt > > siddiq wrote: > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > > > >> Good weather today in Leeds: > >> > >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/leeds > > > > That second to last sepia toned tree looks like it's not real! > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 14:27:42 2009 Received: (qmail 8837 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 13:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 13:27:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDF44303D8 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BC044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A58E34AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:27:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FBB34AC002 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:27:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 23:45:50 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([71.167.120.151]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEH00075S1I0MA5@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:27:18 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <4988463D.1020207@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:27:25 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - AG's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 14:27:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988464e47271946193717 Amazing shot of the eagle, and (agreeing with BB) fantastic with a 300mm OM lens. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: > This week's "Featured Picture of the Week" is a collection of shots taken on > Saturday during the outing with Joel. > No film images, though. Haven't had a chance to get them developed yet. > That's where the "good stuff" is, though. These are just the digital > "proofs". :) All told, I took about 800 pictures--I'm sure Joel's success > rate was a bit better as he probably took half the pictures I did. > > Same place as usual: > > www.zone-10.com > > AG-Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 14:53:35 2009 Received: (qmail 13256 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 13:53:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 13:53:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9924303C6 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE7044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE7834AC002 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:53:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3FD34AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 05:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19708 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 13:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 13:53:24 -0000 Message-ID: <49884C54.9040607@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:53:24 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 14:53:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49884c5f120751823421471 I found your graphs very interesting since it made it obvious that I haven't been paying close attention to changes in hard drive technology for quite some time. It was clear from the change in performance with track radius that this drive has something like "constant linear velocity" (CLV) as is used in CDs and DVDs where the bit density is constant and the speed of the disk changes to keep the linear velocity under the heads as constant. Older hard drives use "constant angular velocity" (CAV). The disk rotation is constant as is the number of bits per track but bit spacing on the outer tracks is greater. This keeps the bit rate passing under the heads as a constant but underutilizes the recording density capabilities of the greater circumference of the outer tracks. A little googling told me quickly that newer hard drives hadn't converted to CLV. They still maintain a constant disk speed but take advantage of greater track circumference by dividing the tracks into zones in a technique called "zoned bit recording" (ZBR). Sector counts per track increase as you move from the inner to the outer zones. Bit frequency passing under the heads also increases as you move outward but is constant within the zone. Your analysis of the speed drop-off as due to latency is incorrect since you assumed that the highest performance was achieved on the inner tracks. In fact, the highest performance is achieved on the outer tracks and, unlike CDs and DVDs which begin filling the disk from the inside out, the hard drive works from the outside in. Latency is only related to spindle speed and not to recording density. It's constant anywhere on the disk. However, latency really only relates to the first seek trying to find the starting sector for some data request. If the request is large and the data continues on another track vertically up or down the cylinder the transfer can continue with only a head switch with no latency involved. Likewise, if the data is on an adjacent track served by the same head the only delay is track-to-track head positioning which is on the order of 1ms or less. Again, there is no latency involved due to cylinder and head skew. Cylinder and head skewt offsets the starting track on the next cylinder to a position that will place it under the head just as the head gets there instead of just having passed by and having to wait for it to come around again. In any case it behooves us these days to put files which require the highest performance on the outside of the disk on the lowest cylinder numbers. There is probably some disk utility somewhere that can monitor file usage and defrag your disk while moving high frequency usage data to the outer zones. But I don't know what it is. Maybe it's part of what you pay for in a server version of the OS. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > C.H.Ling wrote: >> 5x! Did you ever made a real comparison? I got 22MB per second for USB and I can't get over 30MB with SATA to SATA (two hard disks inside the same PC). I believe the HD sustain rate and other overheads in the computer limited the data rate a lot. >> > > I have not done any careful comparisons, as a big difference was readily > apparent just watching the progress of a copy operation. I've now done a > very simple one. I've compared only read speeds for small pieces of data > - for the simple reason that my free version of HDTune only does that. I > think the results are instructive. > > > Unfortunately, the program also rescales the graph height, so you need > to look at the vertical scale and/or the numbers on the right. Both > tests are of the same drive in the same docking station. The top one is > eSATA. It shows the typical shape, flat at first, then tapering down as > latency becomes greater as the circumference of the tracks increases > farther out on the platters. In fact, it's a better than average plot, > with a long high speed section. As it does slope down slightly right > from the start, I believe the limitation is the disk itself, not the > connections. > > The second plot is of the same equipment, but using the USB 2.0 HSE > connection. The dead flat plot is a clear indication that the USB > connection is the limiting factor in speed. So at least for read speed, > the 5x raw spec is optimistic for this drive. On the other hand, > 85.4/27.2 is still 3x. To date, I've only filled part of the 1.5Tb > drive, so I am still seeing something like the 90 MB/sec part of the curve. > > But again, the limitation is the drive, not the eSATA connection, so > this test doesn't say what that might be capable of. > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> So when we are talking about external drives for backup, then writing time is also very important, eSATA does not has that much advantage here. > > I assume you meant to say "writing time is also *not* very important". > > Sure, but the price difference between USB only and USB & eSATA was only > $US5. So why not go with the faster interface? The docking station can > handle any 3.5" or 2.5" SATA drive. The possibilities for other tasks, > where speed could make a difference, are there. > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> My experience is if you have a large set of files to copy the result is quite accurate (did many tests in the pass twenty years), I bet no more than 20% variation in most cases unless your dirve is almost full. > > I've never measured that. Frankly, I doubt is I will. It's obvious to me > from experience that eSATA is much faster. Just how much I don't need to > quantify. > > As Chuck said, such a test is only valid if all drives are defragmented > before testing. > >> To gain more speed you better go with a 10000rpm drive or a RAID setup. > > That is much more expensive than a simple eSATA appliance. And the > higher speed drives don't come in the largest sizes, at least that I've > seen. > > Another other factor to consider is that the 1TB and larger drives use > vertical recording, so the bit density is higher and any given read > speed can generate a higher output speed. The drive I tested has that > advantage. So I added a test of a WD 500GB drive without vertical > recording to the example. This is an internal drive, directly connected > to the MB SATA header. > > As you can see, the graph starts much lower and drops much faster than > the 1TB drive. So it appears that the advantage of eSATA may be greater > for 1TB and larger drives. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 15:12:18 2009 Received: (qmail 11428 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 14:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 14:12:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC004303E4 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AE544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D791A19E96D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:12:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AD219E968 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:12:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 06:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30494 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 14:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 14:12:07 -0000 Message-ID: <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:12:07 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> <49882CF6.4020501@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49882CF6.4020501@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090202-1, 02/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 15:12:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498850c2324721744846740 I don't think your use of "tonal range" is correct here. The tonal range of the input is what it is. Somewhat greater in a raw file than a JPEG with perhaps up to 1 stop or so of additional highlight and shadow detail. But the tonal range of the 12 or 14 bits is not improved by converting to 16 bits... it's only scaled upward. For example, with 12 bit input the maximum value for pure white is 4095. In 16 bits it's 16535 or 16 times larger. During the conversion of 12 bits to 16 bits all the 12 bit values are simply multiplied by 16 and 4095 becomes 16520 (as close as you can get to 16535 on an integer conversion). The advantage of the 16 bits is that the additional range over the JPEG is retained and, as you frequently point out, editing produces fewer integer truncations and star-stepping when dividing numbers downward when reducing pixel brightness during editing. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Moose wrote: > >> ... In reality, RAW files are 12 or 14 bit. RAW converters are >> capable of reading all thos bits at once and outputting 16 bit >> files. They have a greater tonal range than the input, so >> everything in the RAW file is available in one conversion. > > I should have been more precise: "They work in 16-bit and are capable > of handling a greater tonal range than is in the input, so everything > in the RAW file is available in one conversion." > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 16:22:46 2009 Received: (qmail 30582 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 15:22:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 15:22:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFD443054C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DB744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A553434AC02D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:22:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F78D34AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:22:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.62]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28763 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2009 15:22:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DCMkBm0VM1nOPZtcMmumlK4cn4fN8MxLBsmuS9MlkOc6KOYtJW_IMgp.hYIb3bPAqnch3JDQ9ob3PwFtjo2q6YoeMubyJyXQAup9JBxcapwOKOsYxEzLTFgz2xDWwFnjYsmykFeYYAwY4espyo9s7QNxqN1M0wZEYIsdBr0SWdZ0NNDw0JsZbH7MGtvDHPu2i5XF9ejlY2H41rs- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:22:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:22:38 -0800 (PST) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <385390.28663.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: [OM] E3 firmware update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 16:22:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49886146136458512572685 "Olympus announces a firmware update for the Olympus E-3 Digital SLR. The new firmware update allows E-3 users to select the AF target by pressing the arrow keys, improves AF accuracy when using fast lenses with f2.0 aperture, improve C-AF performance, and improves battery life when using the HLD-4 battery holder." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 16:51:07 2009 Received: (qmail 6302 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 15:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 15:51:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9C4304F6 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8A444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6635E19EF79 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.001 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733EB19EF31 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1975C9716 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:12:35 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <385390.28663.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:50:58 +0000 References: <385390.28663.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E3 firmware update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 16:51:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498867eb27351257536491 Thanks, Acer. I'll look out for that next week. Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 15:22, AS wrote: > "Olympus announces a firmware update for the Olympus E-3 Digital > SLR. The new firmware update allows E-3 users to select the AF > target by pressing the arrow keys, improves AF accuracy when using > fast lenses with f2.0 aperture, improve C-AF performance, and > improves battery life when using the HLD-4 battery holder." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 16:51:39 2009 Received: (qmail 21204 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 15:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 15:51:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A738430403 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CB244004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA95419EF73 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.001 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2843D19EF5F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE1DC96ED for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:13:03 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <2DC105D1-7258-4BE8-8B7F-AE0775A591C7@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <385390.28663.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:51:27 +0000 References: <385390.28663.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E3 firmware update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 16:51:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988680b134082336821329 Sorry, Ali, not Acer. Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 15:22, AS wrote: > "Olympus announces a firmware update for the Olympus E-3 Digital > SLR. The new firmware update allows E-3 users to select the AF > target by pressing the arrow keys, improves AF accuracy when using > fast lenses with f2.0 aperture, improve C-AF performance, and > improves battery life when using the HLD-4 battery holder." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:18:11 2009 Received: (qmail 20463 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:18:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:18:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99ED7430516 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F3644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41E234AC02D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F85434AC001 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYH73457 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2DC105D1-7258-4BE8-8B7F-AE0775A591C7@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:18:03 -0800 References: <385390.28663.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2DC105D1-7258-4BE8-8B7F-AE0775A591C7@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] E3 firmware update X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:18:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49886e4373602336821329 Close enough, ironically--part of my (official) last name :P /s On Feb 3, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Sorry, Ali, not Acer. > > Chris > > On 3 Feb 2009, at 15:22, AS wrote: > >> "Olympus announces a firmware update for the Olympus E-3 Digital >> SLR. The new firmware update allows E-3 users to select the AF >> target by pressing the arrow keys, improves AF accuracy when using >> fast lenses with f2.0 aperture, improve C-AF performance, and >> improves battery life when using the HLD-4 battery holder." > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:30:31 2009 Received: (qmail 29653 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:30:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:30:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE857430589 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D0844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF2034AC02D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D23F34AC001 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGV54236 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <08A6BE56-2D58-466F-B58B-D4331C55F626@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:30:21 -0800 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:30:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49887127310931023412894 On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:47 AM, Moose wrote: > siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: >> I think .3 is too little, I have a difficult time with which is >> which. >> ... makes three files to merge, considering how much range there is >> from light to dark, and merge in post. >> > > I agree with Chuck. Proposing bracketing and HDR is an example of > mis-diagnosis of image tonality. The entire range of brightness in the > subject has been captured in the one, 0EV shot. That's not at all > surprising, as the scene is actually rather low in contrast, ranging > from black to light gray. > > I see HDR images being made all the time where nothing beyond a > single, > properly exposed image was needed. When an image looks dull, flat, the > first place to look is at the histogram, not to HDR. There are indeed > subjects that will benefit from bracketing and combining to capture > the > whole brightness range, but it seems to me that they are a rather > small > minority of those to which HDR is being applied. > > The other amusing thing is when people convert three (or more?) output > images from one RAW file, then combine them to capture more brightness > range. In reality, RAW files are 12 or 14 bit. RAW converters are > capable of reading all thos bits at once and outputting 16 bit files. > They have a greater tonal range than the input, so everything in the > RAW > file is available in one conversion. Adjusting the RAW converter to > avoid clipping shadows or highlights beyond what are already lost in > the > RAW file gets all that's in that RAW file in one pass. > > Don't get me wrong. I understand that HDR apps are used to get all > sorts > of effects beyond simply extending the natural looking dynamic range > of > the subject. Some I like, some not, but HDR software is obviously a > fun > thing to use in that way. > > But if one is looking for a reasonably natural rendition of a wide > dynamic range subject, first check the histogram. Adjust EV and > reshoot > as necessary. Then learn how to process images without HDR. I've > bracketed a lot of images, thinking I would need to combine them. To > date, that hasn't been the case. Especially with contemporary DSLRs, > there is a wide dynamic range available, enough for the vast > majority of > subjects. > > Even with a simple, JPEG output only digicam, you might be amazed what > is in the image that isn't obvious. I took 2 or 3 shots of this one, > but > only needed one for the finished product. > > > I shot to the right to retain highlights, low ISO for low noise, then > bring up the shadows. It was all there in one shot. There are a few > other examples in this gallery. > > Much the same problem is shown in some of your shots that I messed > with, > especially the food shots and the two of women with bright backgrounds > behind them. > > > > Moose Fascinating, thanks for the explanation, will have to actually try next time, instead of out of camera JPGs! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:34:57 2009 Received: (qmail 25752 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:34:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:34:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E27E430524 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508F3440050 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ABD19F23F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:34:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDA219F270 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:34:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 95306 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Feb 2009 16:34:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: TFHQ_9AVM1mFhGAEYuVjq13mD9Kmt9xFhoq6mEzL2HIpM7nApZOsWWDjl6MEmvBdTEfGxJDx_PXy2L9F7i0r.A6G6hrR2wyWirbV9TsY_1ZyeAIko97m88bhHioeTlb68kpeQtJ_sHIDlQo6IcmZTYX4zdiw9yd.t8SneF3c3g54V9_e2uur9qGi_3DNwLMeSw_4FuiOz7p_dPqMuzBWzwInOJsFtJNRiRjVrVtSaX0.TjbgGw-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:34:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:34:50 -0800 (PST) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <08A6BE56-2D58-466F-B58B-D4331C55F626@ucr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <869912.95290.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:34:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49887231202011529615919 I attempted bracketing during a particularly bright day using the 420. I had a strange issue while trying to create a HDR using photomatix so I blended the images instead. The snow came out blue matching the sky and I could not fix that. Therefore, I converted the image to BW to hide that blue snow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/4love/3189868974/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:36:34 2009 Received: (qmail 201 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:36:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:36:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B9D430529 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76A4D0404A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397734AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:36:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B00B34AC02D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:36:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090203163621.JJDQ22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:36:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> Message-Id: <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:36:19 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:36:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988729253531529615919 I like! For some reason the dark profile with glasses lens really caught me. But to truly follow Nathan's lead, we need to include a brief commentary on each shot. Sometimes the words make the picture, IMO. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 > > Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as > Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + > Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:39:30 2009 Received: (qmail 4325 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:39:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:39:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600A343051F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBAC44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E4519F2B0 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:39:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712E19F2C0 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:39:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090203163923.CUZJ23506.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:39:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:39:22 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:39:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988734276977350615338 Not crisp, but a very pleasant effect. Good capture of the climate, and a wee bit of mystery about that approaching figure. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 3, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > another shot of my wife coming out of her place of work > resulted in her being out of focus as the system has (cleverly, I > suppose) focused on the snow: > > http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:41:24 2009 Received: (qmail 13358 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:41:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:41:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4487143051A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9273F44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC3E34AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:41:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.819 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.819 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.819, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C34234AC001 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:41:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d26.2329f6ed (42807) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:41:01 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:41:00 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:41:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498873b4135601744846740 As we might say back home, "There ain't no flies on these." Bill Barber In a message dated 2/2/2009 5:18:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, siddiq@ucr.edu writes: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:56:17 2009 Received: (qmail 10825 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:56:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:56:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6EE43055A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C8D44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4D019F31D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:56:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0EC19F39D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:56:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.144]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so240276eyg.26 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:56:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.35.17 with SMTP id i17mr6078670ebi.140.1233680166554; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:56:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> <49882CF6.4020501@gmail.com> <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:56:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:56:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988773171537350615338 2009/2/3 Chuck Norcutt : > For example, with 12 > bit input the maximum value for pure white is 4095. In 16 bits it's > 16535 or 16 times larger. Er, 65535. Not sure if you meant to type that or 16383 (which would be 14 bits worth). Sorry, my inner pedant makes me say these things. No offence intended or anything. -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 17:59:52 2009 Received: (qmail 29554 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 16:59:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 16:59:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75625430508 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C783944004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31E934AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400F934AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGV63628 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3A1641E8-ABA8-4D8A-B8FC-E9700D289C20@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:59:44 -0800 References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 17:59:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988780842611035110158 Good point... added commentary, and will do so for future posts, thanks for looking! /s On Feb 3, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I like! For some reason the dark profile with glasses lens really > caught me. But to truly follow Nathan's lead, we need to include a > brief commentary on each shot. Sometimes the words make the picture, > IMO. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >> >> Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as >> Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + >> Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 18:21:11 2009 Received: (qmail 5348 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 17:21:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 17:21:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818F2430545 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB2F44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9A919F436 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:21:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C4E19F3F9 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:21:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2052567wfd.26 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.148.19 with SMTP id v19mr2455482wfd.60.1233681664589; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:21:04 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902030921g554b54f8u189d5acf290812f1@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 18:21:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49887d07219191234514069 On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 5:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 > > Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as > Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + > Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 Dood, too much good stuff to pick favorites. The proper response is to look, learn, and enjoy. The Whippersnapper is back! Thanks for that. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 18:43:09 2009 Received: (qmail 14189 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 17:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 17:43:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6D443050D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2057644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0796F19F677 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:43:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D419C19F5DB for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:43:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:43:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05DA31411E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A873140B9 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4988822C.20004@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:43:08 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB, 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 18:43:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988822d21191993019900 > > Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-powered external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to suitability for backup use, and reliability? They are convenient. They are slow. They are much more expensive than other options. They can't be upgraded. They are as reliable as any harddrive since they are just a tarted up hd. Why not get an enclosure with eSATA and add a big drive as discussed in the other thread? These are the enclosures I got (on sale) so I don't have to swap out drives. (that link is really long) Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 18:45:57 2009 Received: (qmail 14567 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 17:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 17:45:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72214304F0 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:45:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CE3D0404A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2992419F6EC for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:45:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE86119F6EB for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:45:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBEA314123 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43BC31411E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:13:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498882D6.5040901@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:45:58 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] photomesa irfanview etc X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 18:45:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498882d5175818512572685 > > Thanks will try that though photomesa seems quite good. Yes it does. Thanks for the link. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 18:55:22 2009 Received: (qmail 5818 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 17:55:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 17:55:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09D3430405 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E190F44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61543648002 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:55:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC2F3648001 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:55:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895CB314128 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:23:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312D3314127 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49888509.1020202@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:55:21 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 18:55:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988850a202011529615919 > > Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some > shadowing. but yum! The flash on the 510 is crap. However it did capture the moment. About all I can say for it. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 19:26:22 2009 Received: (qmail 1773 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 18:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 18:26:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C031C40F37 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118EE34AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:26:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AC034AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:26:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:26:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so745509ywa.80 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:26:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.132.14 with SMTP id f14mr3977108and.107.1233685574525; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:26:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090202215259.3NGCR.109116.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <20090202215259.3NGCR.109116.root@cdptpa-web16-z02> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:26:13 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7413bed517e851c8 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 19:26:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49888c4e252601499373980 > > It's why I shoot RAW. As AG once said, "I shoot RAW because I'm not > good enough to shoot jpeg." > I've gotten better since I said that. Had to, I'm shooting film again. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 19:43:10 2009 Received: (qmail 7382 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 18:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 18:43:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462B1430523 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137C444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E5D19F957 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:43:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C27D19F94F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:43:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:43:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0277131412C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44663140C3 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:10:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4988903F.4050404@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:43:11 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB, 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 19:43:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988903e234771023412894 > > Which of these adapters can be used will depend on the motherboard.... > Chuck if you have SATA headers on your motherboard you only need an eSATA adapter that plugs into the header and mounts into a blank slot on the back of the computer. This is for convenience only. Unless OEM's are doing something I'm not aware of there is no difference whether the hd is inside or outside the box. No PCI card is required unless you lack the mb headers. I have two of these to run external backup drives without having to switch wires. This still leaves one free eSATA port for occasional use. My remote enclosures have their own power supply and fan so you aren't pulling power from the computer. Another reason the marketed external drives are slower is because they are typically a 5400rpm or slower drive with less cache. This probably doesn't matter for a straight backup drive but I keep my remote photo drives connected all the time which is easy to do with eSATA and I can download photos off the camera directly to the hd. They are alway available for browsing or editing with no speed penalty. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 19:51:25 2009 Received: (qmail 27211 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 18:51:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 18:51:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1A9430551 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2F744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E9F19F9C1 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:51:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B56319F9AA for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:51:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28296 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 18:51:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB, 2.0-PoweredExternalDrives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 19:51:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988922d142441591313764 Skip the enclosure and get a drive dock like this. Costs a bit more but you only need one for multiple drives. Needs a 2-1/2 or 3-1/2" SATA drive and supports both eSATA II and USB 2.0 interfaces. You may find a better price elsewhere but use caution as there is another version which requires an SATA drive but only has a USB interface to the computer. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Are any of you using Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-powered external hard drives? If so, what are your comments on these as to suitability for backup use, and reliability? > They are convenient. They are slow. They are much more expensive than > other options. They can't be upgraded. They are as reliable as any > harddrive since they are just a tarted up hd. > > Why not get an enclosure with eSATA and add a big drive as discussed in > the other thread? These are the enclosures I got (on sale) so I don't > have to swap out drives. > > > (that link is really long) > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 19:54:13 2009 Received: (qmail 7314 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 18:54:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 18:54:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2709430523 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5321044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F1A34AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:54:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBFF34AC02D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:54:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090203185356.HDXR19709.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:53:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Message-Id: To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:53:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: [OM] Zuiko 1.4 teleconverter FS X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 19:54:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498892d5262491529615919 Just noticed I still have my Zuiko 1.4x teleconverter, but no Zuiko lenses to mount it on. I had pretty good luck with this guy and the 50-200. With 4/3 ratio, it gives a nice range. Really nice condition. $295 includes shipping to lower 48. Overseas will be extra. First "I'll take it!" e-mail gets it. --Bob www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:05:22 2009 Received: (qmail 1483 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:05:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20740430533 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9797144004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A1E19FA2C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAD019FA1C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:05:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from webmail-out.lnh.mail.rcn.net (webmail-out.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.109]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.92]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2009 14:05:15 -0500 Received: (from ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net [134.174.144.115]) by ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id CCM34633 (AUTH lmwoods@rcn.com); Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:05:14 -0500 (EST) From: Lawrence Woods To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.8.5-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090203140514.CCM34633@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:05:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OM] Fwd: Re: (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:05:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988957274041499373980 Bob - I was in Harvard Yard Monday night, and found the thing you photographed. It is nowhere near the water pump. I stand corrected, and you did indeed find the Harvard Monument to Manhood. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:02:32 -0500 (EST) >From: Lawrence Woods >Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) >To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > >>From: Bob Whitmire > >> ... And then there was the completely unpublicized >> yet-to-be-unveiled Harvard Monument to Manhood. > >If you had the lens pulled in to 24mm, and were very close to >an object actually about six feet high, what you were facing >was a replica of a water pump from the 1600's that was the >college's water supply. The green fabric is its winter >protective coat. > >In a far corner of Harvard Yard, in front of the Lamont >Library, there is a Henry Moore bronze sculpture in a similar >custom-tailored green covering. I have often thought of >trying to take identical vantage point pictures of the >sculpture with and without its winter garb, but haven't done >so. > >Harvard Square in general is an easy place for street >phototgraphy. People (mostly not Harvard Students) come to >see and be seen. In her suburban high-school days, my >daughter was part of that scene. Holding my breath must have >worked, because she got through the phase without tattoos, >piercings, or something worse. > >----- Larry Woods > lmwoods@rcn.com ----- Larry Woods lmwoods@rcn.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:31:27 2009 Received: (qmail 6180 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:31:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C4D430535 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E335044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF10219F7C1 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:31:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2841519FA21 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:31:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23723 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 19:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:31:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49889b8f327362336821329 The key to understanding your problem is likely to be found in "particularly bright day". I suspect that, despite exposing multiple images for an HDR blend, your exposure for the brightest highlights was probably still overexposed... but not totally. Most cameras do not get blown out on all 3 color channels simultaneously. I think most will give up the red channel first as do my Mynolta A1 and Canyon 5D. I don't know which one goes next but I think the effect you are seeing is that the red channel (at least) is blown and maybe the green as well although maybe not as bad. What you are left with is RGB highlights (snow) with no R and maybe no G and what's left is predominantly blue and blending into the sky. Check the histograms on the brightest images and pay attention to the individual color channels and I think you'll find that I'm right. Check those when you're shooting too and you may catch it in the act. And, if you shoot raw you'll have some additional headroom for highlight recovery. This is one place where different raw converters may march to different drummers. The manufacturer's converters usually give up if they know that one channel is blown because they know the color accuracy is gone. Other converters may try to guesstimate from surrounding pixels what the color should look like and fudge the numbers. But I don't know if anyone attempts to handle two blown channels. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > I attempted bracketing during a particularly bright day using the > 420. I had a strange issue while trying to create a HDR using > photomatix so I blended the images instead. > > The snow came out blue matching the sky and I could not fix that. > Therefore, I converted the image to BW to hide that blue snow. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/4love/3189868974/ > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:38:35 2009 Received: (qmail 20391 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:38:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:38:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65AA430530 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00ED044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E5834AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:38:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0079934AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:38:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28405 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 19:38:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 19:38:22 -0000 Message-ID: <49889D2E.2090108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:38:22 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> <49882CF6.4020501@gmail.com> <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:38:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49889d3b150961744846740 Yes, good catch on my typo. I've been doing binary numbers since I was about 10100 or some 101101 years ago. But it was too easy to type 100000010010111 when it was followed by 10000. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ian Nichols wrote: > 2009/2/3 Chuck Norcutt : > >> For example, with 12 >> bit input the maximum value for pure white is 4095. In 16 bits it's >> 16535 or 16 times larger. > > Er, 65535. Not sure if you meant to type that or 16383 (which would > be 14 bits worth). > > Sorry, my inner pedant makes me say these things. No offence intended > or anything. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:49:06 2009 Received: (qmail 13573 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:49:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:49:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7354304EC for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756F544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BD234AC034 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:48:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3BF34AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:48:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED45C9716 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:10:29 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <3B13E7E2-BA28-4FDF-B076-09047D9C776F@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <869912.95290.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:48:52 +0000 References: <869912.95290.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:49:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49889fb229011023412894 Very cool shot, Ali. Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 16:34, AS wrote: > I attempted bracketing during a particularly bright day using the > 420. I had a strange issue while trying to create a HDR using > photomatix so I blended the images instead. > > The snow came out blue matching the sky and I could not fix that. > Therefore, I converted the image to BW to hide that blue snow. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/4love/3189868974/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:50:02 2009 Received: (qmail 1943 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:50:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:50:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459A5430530 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA23A44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A488234AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DCB34AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C6AC973E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:11:30 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:49:53 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:50:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49889fea105001591313764 Thanks, Bob. I like the effect, even if it was unintentional. And it made Madame smile, mainly because I was there to take her home on a snowy day with icy roads ... :-) Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Not crisp, but a very pleasant effect. Good capture of the climate, > and a wee bit of mystery about that approaching figure. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> another shot of my wife coming out of her place of work >> resulted in her being out of focus as the system has (cleverly, I >> suppose) focused on the snow: >> >> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:51:16 2009 Received: (qmail 6203 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:51:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:51:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9398E430521 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7947E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479C534AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6773610006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGW13913 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <8658F6B0-9391-4E11-96BF-CF5577199FAF@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:51:06 -0800 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:51:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a034248351869477228 Aww, how sweet! On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Bob. I like the effect, even if it was unintentional. And it > made Madame smile, mainly because I was there to take her home on a > snowy day with icy roads ... :-) > > Chris > > On 3 Feb 2009, at 16:39, Bob Whitmire wrote: > >> Not crisp, but a very pleasant effect. Good capture of the climate, >> and a wee bit of mystery about that approaching figure. >> >> --Bob Whitmire >> www.bwp33.com >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >> >>> another shot of my wife coming out of her place of work >>> resulted in her being out of focus as the system has (cleverly, I >>> suppose) focused on the snow: >>> >>> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:52:30 2009 Received: (qmail 29893 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:52:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9E843055D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7C944004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B499B34AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:52:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB0F34AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:52:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6022 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 19:52:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 19:52:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4988A075.5080003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:52:21 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49888509.1020202@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <49888509.1020202@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:52:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a07e217681838542571 Try putting a piece of tissue in front of it. If you're in a restaurant a layer of paper napkin might make a handy diffuser. If you're shooting close things like the food on the table the loss of power shouldn't be too significant. If you've got a buddy or two present have them use another napkin or two to make an impromptu reflector so you can fill some shadows. A simple diffuser and a single reflector will make a big difference. Without a buddy even a napkin propped up against some glasses or bottles should help. I've never seen such a thing but I'd be surprised if someone somewhere doesn't make a simple sort of diffuser for clipping on to the camera somehow for pop-up flashes. I just invented one. How about a piece of white, translucent plastic slightly larger than the open size of the flash head which has an attaching hood made of cloth tape that drapes over the top of the flash and folds around to attach to the diffuser at its sides. The side pieces could be creased such that they fold inward when the top piece is folded down. The whole thing should be not much larger than a matchbook and probably thinner when folded up. Easy to put in your pocket. Dr. Flash Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some >> shadowing. but yum! > The flash on the 510 is crap. However it did capture the moment. About > all I can say for it. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:55:07 2009 Received: (qmail 22540 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:55:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A38A43050D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2897444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1451419FB67 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E6519FB5C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7612 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 19:54:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 19:54:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:54:58 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:55:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a11b95374673671140 Something I can't do with my simple HTML page generator. Maybe Lightroom (which I have but don't use yet) or PS itself does this somehow. What do folks use for simple one-off page generation that would allow photo commentary. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > I like! For some reason the dark profile with glasses lens really > caught me. But to truly follow Nathan's lead, we need to include a > brief commentary on each shot. Sometimes the words make the picture, > IMO. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >> >> Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as >> Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + >> Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 20:55:32 2009 Received: (qmail 15040 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 19:55:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 19:55:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDD3430506 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C9244004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BAC34AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.211 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.211 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E95634AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (216.200.145.38 is listed in dnsbl-1.uceprotect.net) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D2D74F101 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:49 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0206 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d56b7) id dm0206.4981ce0d.5dcf65 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:55:20 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiKEotil5ngIAAAAB,65fc53313e5dd3cfa97f52f84ca95283 Message-ID: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:55:27 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 20:55:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a134135081591313764 It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the motion blur of the students entering the main building. They paid me well... I'm happy. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:01:44 2009 Received: (qmail 21361 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:01:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:01:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958681C40F44 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7946044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C201CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E2C1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5131412B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8C6314129 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:29:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4988A2A7.1000002@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:01:43 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-Powered, External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:01:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a2a8300802336821329 > > To gain more speed you better go with a 10000rpm drive or a RAID setup. Easy enough to do with one or a a couple of eSATA drives in separate enclosures. Especially for a redundant backup. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:02:30 2009 Received: (qmail 27844 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:02:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:02:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629A91C40E83 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C53440050 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1056734AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3C834AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2118465wfd.26 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:01:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.82.13 with SMTP id f13mr2488651wfb.290.1233691309817; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:01:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:01:49 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902031201w273323c3n37f99dc99713b127@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:02:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a2d6269521838542571 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Richard Lovison wrote: > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) Richard, that's fantastic. It's a great image! Congrats! Long live the E-1. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:04:52 2009 Received: (qmail 20569 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:04:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA1D1C40F48 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A894E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFDC34AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D212D34AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYI49901 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:04:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <880DC408-0192-4DD0-AEE3-1A1CA71715F9@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4988A075.5080003@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:03:48 -0800 References: <49888509.1020202@interisland.net> <4988A075.5080003@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:04:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a364321231073733319 Once I had to take an impromptu shot of my manager/supervisor in a new studio classroom. Pulled out a business card, and used that to bounce the oncamera flash (department camera) onto the ceiling, and that worked rather well. I wasn't told it was for publication, and I didn't have my camera with me either. Found out later when I was emailed the following: http://campustechnology.com/Articles/2008/06/Incubating-NextGenEdu.aspx?Page=2 On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Try putting a piece of tissue in front of it. If you're in a > restaurant > a layer of paper napkin might make a handy diffuser. If you're > shooting > close things like the food on the table the loss of power shouldn't be > too significant. If you've got a buddy or two present have them use > another napkin or two to make an impromptu reflector so you can fill > some shadows. A simple diffuser and a single reflector will make a > big > difference. Without a buddy even a napkin propped up against some > glasses or bottles should help. > > I've never seen such a thing but I'd be surprised if someone somewhere > doesn't make a simple sort of diffuser for clipping on to the camera > somehow for pop-up flashes. I just invented one. How about a piece > of > white, translucent plastic slightly larger than the open size of the > flash head which has an attaching hood made of cloth tape that drapes > over the top of the flash and folds around to attach to the diffuser > at > its sides. The side pieces could be creased such that they fold > inward > when the top piece is folded down. The whole thing should be not much > larger than a matchbook and probably thinner when folded up. Easy to > put in your pocket. > > Dr. Flash > > Mike Lazzari wrote: >>> Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some >>> shadowing. but yum! >> The flash on the 510 is crap. However it did capture the moment. >> About >> all I can say for it. >> >> Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:07:17 2009 Received: (qmail 23637 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:07:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83551C40F51 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5A544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CBB1CD48B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA1C1CD489 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGW18193 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:07:10 -0800 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:07:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a3f5127861470116606 On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Richard Lovison wrote: > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of > you. > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks > like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to > create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) > > Richard Awesome shot, well done, and got paid for it too! (which is more than I can say for my department when they use my photos all over promotional material w/o so much as a credit line....) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:08:34 2009 Received: (qmail 30813 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:08:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:08:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCA61C40F46 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD3144004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1BF34AC040 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:08:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A6034AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:08:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16837 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 20:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 20:08:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4988A439.6070606@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988903F.4050404@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4988903F.4050404@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB, 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:08:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a44226001838542571 OEM's are doing something you're not familiar with. I tried this route thinking exactly what you said. However, my Dell motherboard was built before the existence of the eSATA spec or in ignorance or defiance of it. When I attached my external drives with appropriate backplate connectors and cables the drives were simply not recognized. It was as though they weren't even there. A call to Dell tech support informed me that my 6 SATA port motherboard would not support eSATA drives and my only solution was an eSATA adapter. Fortunately the mb has two PCIe slots so I was able to use a card that's fast enough to support SATA II. Once the eSATA adapter was in place the drives fired up instantly. I really don't know why it doesn't work as the only difference I can find between SATA and eSATA specs is the connectors (different shape and far greater insertion life) and a slight change in voltage. Apparently, small as it is, the voltage difference must be large enough that it doesn't work. The BlacX drive dock also has its own power supply. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Which of these adapters can be used will depend on the motherboard.... >> > Chuck if you have SATA headers on your motherboard you only need an > eSATA adapter that plugs into the header and mounts into a blank slot on > the back of the computer. This is for convenience only. Unless OEM's are > doing something I'm not aware of there is no difference whether the hd > is inside or outside the box. No PCI card is required unless you lack > the mb headers. I have two of these to run external backup drives > without having to switch wires. This still leaves one free eSATA port > for occasional use. My remote enclosures have their own power supply and > fan so you aren't pulling power from the computer. > > Another reason the marketed external drives are slower is because they > are typically a 5400rpm or slower drive with less cache. This probably > doesn't matter for a straight backup drive but I keep my remote photo > drives connected all the time which is easy to do with eSATA and I can > download photos off the camera directly to the hd. They are alway > available for browsing or editing with no speed penalty. > > > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:13:36 2009 Received: (qmail 32611 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:13:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:13:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4671C40F57 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F9044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAEE1CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:13:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5D71CD48B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:13:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:13:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19855 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 20:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:13:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a5706971342116753 It just occurred to me that a good thing to make the diffuser from might be a "clear" plastic polyethelene bottle. Polyethelene really isn't clear but should give you the diffusion you need. A milk bottle or any of several other types you might have around the house would make a good donor. Chuck Norcutt Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Try putting a piece of tissue in front of it. If you're in a restaurant > a layer of paper napkin might make a handy diffuser. If you're shooting > close things like the food on the table the loss of power shouldn't be > too significant. If you've got a buddy or two present have them use > another napkin or two to make an impromptu reflector so you can fill > some shadows. A simple diffuser and a single reflector will make a big > difference. Without a buddy even a napkin propped up against some > glasses or bottles should help. > > I've never seen such a thing but I'd be surprised if someone somewhere > doesn't make a simple sort of diffuser for clipping on to the camera > somehow for pop-up flashes. I just invented one. How about a piece of > white, translucent plastic slightly larger than the open size of the > flash head which has an attaching hood made of cloth tape that drapes > over the top of the flash and folds around to attach to the diffuser at > its sides. The side pieces could be creased such that they fold inward > when the top piece is folded down. The whole thing should be not much > larger than a matchbook and probably thinner when folded up. Easy to > put in your pocket. > > Dr. Flash > > Mike Lazzari wrote: >>> Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some >>> shadowing. but yum! >> The flash on the 510 is crap. However it did capture the moment. About >> all I can say for it. >> >> Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:15:58 2009 Received: (qmail 8055 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:15:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAD31C40F02 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD7D44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1209A1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:15:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BD91CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:15:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYI52783 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:16:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <0A5DF338-6748-45C1-AF25-0E0811A48779@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4988A567.4080707@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:15:25 -0800 References: <49888509.1020202@interisland.net> <4988A075.5080003@chucknorcutt.com> <4988A567.4080707@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:15:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a5fe106161744846740 If you still have film canisters (remember those? the milky white translucent kind, cut a vertical slit along the length of it, and you can slide it sideways onto most pop-up flashes, for instant diffuser. Might block too much light, but it works. On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > It just occurred to me that a good thing to make the diffuser from > might > be a "clear" plastic polyethelene bottle. Polyethelene really isn't > clear but should give you the diffusion you need. A milk bottle or > any > of several other types you might have around the house would make a > good > donor. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Try putting a piece of tissue in front of it. If you're in a >> restaurant >> a layer of paper napkin might make a handy diffuser. If you're >> shooting >> close things like the food on the table the loss of power shouldn't >> be >> too significant. If you've got a buddy or two present have them use >> another napkin or two to make an impromptu reflector so you can fill >> some shadows. A simple diffuser and a single reflector will make a >> big >> difference. Without a buddy even a napkin propped up against some >> glasses or bottles should help. >> >> I've never seen such a thing but I'd be surprised if someone >> somewhere >> doesn't make a simple sort of diffuser for clipping on to the camera >> somehow for pop-up flashes. I just invented one. How about a >> piece of >> white, translucent plastic slightly larger than the open size of the >> flash head which has an attaching hood made of cloth tape that drapes >> over the top of the flash and folds around to attach to the >> diffuser at >> its sides. The side pieces could be creased such that they fold >> inward >> when the top piece is folded down. The whole thing should be not >> much >> larger than a matchbook and probably thinner when folded up. Easy to >> put in your pocket. >> >> Dr. Flash >> >> Mike Lazzari wrote: >>>> Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some >>>> shadowing. but yum! >>> The flash on the 510 is crap. However it did capture the moment. >>> About >>> all I can say for it. >>> >>> Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:25:12 2009 Received: (qmail 6259 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:25:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7F430501 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3281E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAE61CD488 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1461CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.76]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 2238BDB6AH for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:04 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:25:00 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] a proud moment Thread-Index: AcmGOWXh15BB2bPtS2WFcyQUnbvC/wAA/afA From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2009 20:25:04.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F386860:01C9863D] Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:25:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988a828110277927319144 >It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. >They paid me well... 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Best advice is to check anything going on the mount that doesn't have the word "Zuiko" on it. PS - the #3 body is the same. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Drew Just as an afterthought, the Adapatall is not the only device an OM-4/T should fear. The Vivitar 90-180 Series 1 lens will also need to be Walterized. Jy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 21:56:05 2009 Received: (qmail 27574 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 20:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 20:56:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AF643052B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8C344004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7219D34AC034 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:55:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FE934AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:55:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:55:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so775654anc.35 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:55:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.3.13 with SMTP id 13mr1581764anc.74.1233694554094; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:55:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:55:54 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c3eaf58e33cc8036 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 21:56:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988af65317957927319144 Yeah Team! Good job. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 22:17:47 2009 Received: (qmail 30246 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 21:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 21:17:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224AC430539 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD35E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C075B34AC045 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:17:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8764434AC03F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:17:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30177 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 21:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 22:17:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988b47b131921838542571 Great job! As Bill Barber said: "There ain't no flies on these." Chuck Norcutt Richard Lovison wrote: > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) > > Richard -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 22:24:15 2009 Received: (qmail 17387 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 21:24:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 21:24:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BB4430553 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF6844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD6434AC03F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:24:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B5F34AC03E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:24:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 days 06:24:53 ago / 195.8.64.6 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 187.red-79-147-168.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([79.147.168.187]:55766 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LUSkS-000342-Gi (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:24:00 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:23:59 +0100 References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 22:24:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988b5ff282151946193717 Why, thanks, Bob, but that's just my style because I'm a blabbermouth... When I started doing the weekly pictures in 2001, I more or less stuck with the images. But over the years it has kind of evolved into the weekly blog it is now. Every week I try to put together a story of my week, comprised of words and images. That is my way, but then again there are others who just put up awesome pictures that need no commentary. The diversity is what makes this whole web interaction so rewarding. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I like! For some reason the dark profile with glasses lens really > caught me. But to truly follow Nathan's lead, we need to include a > brief commentary on each shot. Sometimes the words make the picture, > IMO. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > >> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >> >> Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as >> Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + >> Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 22:38:26 2009 Received: (qmail 5060 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 21:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 21:38:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B0C43058A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB02B44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C738A1CD48C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:38:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B011C1CD482 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:38:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9750 invoked by uid 504); 3 Feb 2009 21:38:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 21:38:18 -0000 Message-ID: <4988B949.40907@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:38:17 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-0, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 22:38:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988b95267341702588592 It should have been obvious to me earlier but I guess you're also building a little photographic diary of your life and times. You may appreciate it more and more as the years roll on. Maybe you do and don't show those here but also include some shots of your house and the immediate surroundings. I don't have those from the early part of my life and I can't recreate them. The first two houses I lived in and in one case the entire surrounding area buildings have been demolished. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Why, thanks, Bob, but that's just my style because I'm a blabbermouth... > > When I started doing the weekly pictures in 2001, I more or less stuck > with the images. But over the years it has kind of evolved into the > weekly blog it is now. Every week I try to put together a story of my > week, comprised of words and images. That is my way, but then again > there are others who just put up awesome pictures that need no > commentary. The diversity is what makes this whole web interaction so > rewarding. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > >> I like! For some reason the dark profile with glasses lens really >> caught me. But to truly follow Nathan's lead, we need to include a >> brief commentary on each shot. Sometimes the words make the picture, >> IMO. >> >> --Bob Whitmire >> www.bwp33.com >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >>> >>> Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as >>> Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + >>> Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 22:43:37 2009 Received: (qmail 13987 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 21:43:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 21:43:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DA343058D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9EF44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CA31CD48A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:43:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EDB1CD482 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:43:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.152]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so789579yxi.80 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.157.19 with SMTP id j19mr3532758qbo.39.1233697404475; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?169.235.33.245? ([72.14.241.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s30sm535727qbs.0.2009.02.03.13.43.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:43:23 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Message-Id: <710615EE-6317-403A-B46E-82C90C040EE2@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:43:09 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 22:43:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988ba89301081234514069 nice shot indeed! (and yay for getting paid for it, awesome!) nico. On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Richard Lovison wrote: It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the motion blur of the students entering the main building. They paid me well... I'm happy. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 22:46:00 2009 Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 21:45:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 21:45:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94836430529 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D433944004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00591CD48A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429A81CD482 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so789566ywa.80 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.81.16 with SMTP id i16mr3536183qbl.120.1233697552004; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?169.235.33.245? ([72.14.241.159]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k8sm437183qba.13.2009.02.03.13.45.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:45:51 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Message-Id: <38352775-79CB-4133-8ED1-0A2EE3AC7B4A@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:45:37 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 22:46:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988bb18220951257536491 if all else fails, you know you did it for the glory :) or for chocolate, whichever floats your boat! (i like to get paid in pizza or candies...) nico. On Feb 3, 2009, at 12:07 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: Awesome shot, well done, and got paid for it too! (which is more than I can say for my department when they use my photos all over promotional material w/o so much as a credit line....) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 22:47:59 2009 Received: (qmail 15208 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 21:47:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 21:47:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF81C430551 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20A344004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB0234AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:47:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C86534AC003 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C496C974C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:09:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:47:50 +0000 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 22:47:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988bb8f48931234514069 Nicely done indeed, Richard! And you got paid ... :-) Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:55, Richard Lovison wrote: > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks > like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to > create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 23:44:06 2009 Received: (qmail 27115 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 22:44:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 22:44:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B72430592 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9040644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F021CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:43:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ABE1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:43:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.240]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2228007rvb.50 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:43:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.136.5 with SMTP id j5mr3196152rvd.39.1233701035242; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:43:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:55 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb2a9173a41709f4 Message-ID: <60f983080902031443n66bd0135x9320413904edf903@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Some new shots X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 23:44:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988c8b6234671823421471 Some shots with my new toys, the contrast is lower than my "old" ZF lenses. The color saturation is more natural. Sometimes I found the contrast & color saturation of my ZF lenses are too much. I'm much appreciated the performance of my "new" lens :-) Leica M4-P, Summicron 35 ASPH, Fujichrome Velvia 100 http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/35ASPH There are 6 rolls B&W film is not developed yet. Hope I may "solve" them this week & share with you soon. The equipment for my darkroom will be collected next week, I'll be "drunk" in my darkroom :-) --- Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 23:53:46 2009 Received: (qmail 31491 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 22:53:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 22:53:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3ECE43055D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAF644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9605234AC03F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11ED34AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.23]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [123.255.58.172] (172.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.172]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203AA2F447E; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:53:27 +1300 (NZDT) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net, brian swales Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:53:28 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body Subject: [OM] (OM) off-topic; Godalming snow photo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 23:53:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988cafa3262070262475 Hi all http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=323417&l=4efb7&id=1027725807 Image on loan from my cousin Imogen; taken when she walked to work. She wrote that the snow came up to her knee; didn't say which knee or if the other knee was similarly afflicted :-)) I think it is a great photo. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 3 23:59:09 2009 Received: (qmail 4667 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 22:59:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 22:59:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AA443052C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF81744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19D834AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:59:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7F534AC03F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:59:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n13Mwwjj023070 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:58:59 +1100 Message-Id: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:58:58 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:58:58 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 3 23:59:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988cc3d109641585427447 > Mike Lazzari <> wrote: > > > > > Looks like the oncamera flash and lens and/or hood cause some > > shadowing. but yum! > The flash on the 510 is crap. However it did capture the moment. About > all I can say for it. > Yes I agree *crap*, It's a real pain in the arse having to remove the hood (on the 14-42mm) when you use the flash. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 00:01:22 2009 Received: (qmail 5394 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 23:01:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 23:01:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA5E430548 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDE544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A1519FBAA for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:01:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.494 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.494 required=7 tests=[MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=1.495, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10B919FBA5 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:01:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n13N1E3r026024 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:01:14 +1100 Message-Id: <200902032301.n13N1E3r026024@mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:01:14 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:01:14 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 00:01:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988ccc2190243675314703 > Ken Norton <> wrote: > > I've gotten better since I said that. > > Had to, I'm shooting film again. > Shooting neg films is a bit like raw, polaroids a bit like jpg. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 00:18:17 2009 Received: (qmail 14183 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 23:18:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 23:18:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AA443058F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D75A34AC048 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:18:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CA434AC03F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:18:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26351 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 23:18:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.192.224) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 23:18:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4988D0A9.60305@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:18:01 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <0308DE7D-4D21-4B88-B7DA-2E5EC48C87B2@ucr.edu> <498820C2.4000101@gmail.com> <49882CF6.4020501@gmail.com> <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498850B7.1080107@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 00:18:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988d0b9150261470116606 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I don't think your use of "tonal range" is correct here. The tonal > range of the input is what it is. I knew that sentence was going to get me in trouble. And it did, even after rewriting. I mean to say that the 16 bit processing and output of RAW converters are capable of handling an even greater range of brightness than is present in any current RAW files that I know of. Of course it can't add dynamic range that's not in the original. > Somewhat greater in a raw file than a JPEG with perhaps up to 1 stop or so of additional highlight and shadow > detail. But the tonal range of the 12 or 14 bits is not improved by converting to 16 bits... it's only scaled upward. For example, with 12 bit input the maximum value for pure white is 4095. In 16 bits it's 16535 or 16 times larger. During the conversion of 12 bits to 16 bits all the 12 bit values are simply multiplied by 16 and 4095 becomes 16520 (as close as you can get to 16535 on an integer conversion). > I've hoped it's something like that, rather than fully stretching fewer to more values.The advantage would be in the low values, where binary representation in the lowest bits leaves only coarse steps available for interpolation during editing. 16 bit histograms in PS don't show gaps in such converted files, but that may be by design. I dunno. > The advantage of the 16 bits is that the additional range over the JPEG is retained and, as you frequently point out, editing produces fewer integer truncations and star-stepping when dividing numbers downward when reducing pixel brightness during editing. > Yup, the greater the tonal resolution, the smoother the results of interpolation. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 00:37:38 2009 Received: (qmail 4138 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 23:37:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 23:37:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C57430548 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A80944004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7210434AC03F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:37:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3F534AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:37:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6534 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 23:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.179.244) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 23:37:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4988D537.7060506@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:37:27 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 00:37:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988d542322185368819438 C.H.Ling wrote: > .... > > Why not simply copy a folder full of files and compare the result? It is how I use my backup drives. > Because I don't care enough to spend the time. I've done my research, bought my equipment and am quite happy with the results. > I'm not arguing the $5 difference, I will also go for the duo version, just don't belive there is such a big difference (even 3x not to mention 5x). > OK, make it whatever you want, it won't affect the reality for me of faster performance. Some of the difference between our experiences may well be a difference in drive performance. So far, we are only testing drive speed on the (e)SATA connections, not the limits of the SATA interface. And that's as it should be. Relatively speaking, HDs are expensive and interfaces inexpensive. Why should choice of interface slow down performance of the more expensive components? But that's what's happening using USB, even with your older drive. As Mr. Spock would say, "Illogical". Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 00:58:08 2009 Received: (qmail 3796 invoked by uid 0); 3 Feb 2009 23:58:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Feb 2009 23:58:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F3F43055F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F0044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EBA34AC041 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:58:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.21 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.21 required=7 tests=[SPF_NEUTRAL=1.21] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4438C34AC034 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:57:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17906 invoked by uid 502); 3 Feb 2009 23:57:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.179.244) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Feb 2009 23:57:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4988DA03.8040608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:57:55 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988903F.4050404@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4988903F.4050404@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB, 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 00:58:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988da10104517927319144 Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Which of these adapters can be used will depend on the motherboard.... >> >> > ... I have two of these to run external backup drives without having to switch wires. This still leaves one free eSATA port for occasional use. My remote enclosures have their own power supply and fan so you aren't pulling power from the computer. > I had a single backplane header and recently added one with two additional connections to give me lots of flexibility. And to think that I thought siz MB SATA headers were overkill when I got this box. Now they are all full. eSATA doesn't provide power, so the devices have to provide their own. > Another reason the marketed external drives are slower is because they are typically a 5400rpm or slower drive with less cache. Oh yeah, I forgot. That's another reason I bought drives and enclosures separately. All 7200 rpm with 16MB caches on the smaller ones, 32MB on the 1.5TBs. > This probably doesn't matter for a straight backup drive but I keep my remote photo drives connected all the time which is easy to do with eSATA and I can download photos off the camera directly to the hd. They are alway available for browsing or editing with no speed penalty. I keep mine connected all the time now, but turn them off when not in use so they are safe from any virus that may wander by. I've never had a virus damage anything, but choose to minimize temptation of fate. Lowers my carbon footprint, too. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 01:48:03 2009 Received: (qmail 26550 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 00:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 00:48:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF11343056B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B627744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C841CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263F41CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2232650wfd.26 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:47:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.153.8 with SMTP id a8mr170636wfe.123.1233708467650; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:47:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:47:47 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 01:48:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988e5c3314029117217770 OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last weekend: http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 02:59:14 2009 Received: (qmail 18107 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 01:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 01:59:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3170B430564 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4F144004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCDD34AC034 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:59:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6017334AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:59:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-209.ctimail.com [61.93.57.209]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n141x1rE024735 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:59:01 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n141x0Oe011191 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:59:01 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> <4988D537.7060506@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:58:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 02:59:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988f67267021702588592 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" > OK, make it whatever you want, it won't affect the reality for me of > faster performance. Some of the difference between our experiences may > well be a difference in drive performance. > Yes, obviously we have very different approach. Actually, I have sold my 3.5" backup drives two years ago and started to use 2.5" with USB case for backup, the price is much more expensive but it doesn't need external power and very protable. With less power and smaller disc, I feel it is more reliable than 3.5" hard disk. Seperate the backups on more drivers is easier for me to catalogue them and you won't loss all files with one drive failure. > So far, we are only testing drive speed on the (e)SATA connections, not > the limits of the SATA interface. And that's as it should be. > > Relatively speaking, HDs are expensive and interfaces inexpensive. Why > should choice of interface slow down performance of the more expensive > components? But that's what's happening using USB, even with your older > drive. As Mr. Spock would say, "Illogical". > We should think about overall performance not only one part of the component where it is not the bottle neck. Just like people paying a premium for the super fast CF card and use on the slow digital camera. Yes, you can use the card later with fast digital camera but tomorrow the CF card price already dropped to half or there is already a new memory type available where you can't use your old card anymore. If I go with external 3.5" backup, I don't mind to pay the extra for a faster performance (if only I have eSATA on my computer but unfortunately not). I don't care much about backup performance, 50% increase in speed is not critical to me. If it is my boot drive or for PS cache then I will choose a faster one. C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 03:13:58 2009 Received: (qmail 3570 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 02:13:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 02:13:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D2143058E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560C844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C381CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:13:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D371CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:13:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so824441anc.35 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:13:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.32.6 with SMTP id f6mr4392809anf.90.1233713629857; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:13:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:13:49 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 66c3a3a1dcfae0c9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 03:13:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988f9e623471823421471 Excellent eagle shots. Good job on the store front. I don't recall seeing that broken board. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 03:19:31 2009 Received: (qmail 15218 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 02:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 02:19:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B357643058A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2552644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9E734AC041 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:19:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B440834AC02D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:19:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so827529ywa.80 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:19:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.141.10 with SMTP id o10mr1137028and.145.1233713956938; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:19:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:19:16 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f51d0e44d987e575 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 03:19:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4988fb33176441499373980 Anybody interested in exploring the concept of how flat Iowa is on a peddly-bike? This summer is another annual installment of RAGBRAI. (google is a wonderful tool here). I am planning on biking the entire week. Anybody interested in coming along? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 03:59:21 2009 Received: (qmail 4660 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 02:59:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 02:59:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18BC430551 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAC144004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5EA1CD482 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:59:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0C81CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:59:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-017.ctimail.com [61.93.57.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n142xB2V016723 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:59:11 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n142xB9u021575 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:59:11 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <0D777D46E9CA403FB341F6754B171909@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:59:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 03:59:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890489315921838542571 That's a really nice shot! Congratulations! C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lovison" > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) > > Richard -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:00:36 2009 Received: (qmail 14637 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:00:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:00:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDF943056B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B799744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0A434AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5086E34AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8C2751B98 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c5196) id dm0205.4981cdff.62713f for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:00:28 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiQTM0d1iAAIAAAAB,fdb0fb2cfcbc7bc690cb2bfba1a5be30 Message-ID: <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:00:35 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:00:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498904d4255791823421471 Joel Wilcox wrote: > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) I'm always sucked in by sunrises so "dawn's early light" was a favorite along with the eagle shot 1313152 and the doorway shot 1312057. Are those tennis shoes on Ken? In the snow? You wouldn't last four hours out here in a New England winter. ;) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:04:32 2009 Received: (qmail 2811 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:04:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DEF43057B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EB444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFC61CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BF81CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30410 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 03:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:04:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-Id: <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:04:14 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:04:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498905c0192081838542571 Indeed - i just received an E-30 loaner with the 14-54mm mk2 and got a great big hood shadow with one of my first mucking around shots! That's a bit naughty - it was at about 20mm too. Now for the news. Just received an invite to an Oly presentation in two weeks at which I will be shown a new SLR. I shall prolly have to sign the Oly Secrets Act as usual so won't be able to say anything until March but feel free to speculate. Know though that there is a new SLR in the pipe. As far as I can see, the only gap in the line is for a high performance, high resolution professional model. That would surprise me though. Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 9:58 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > Yes I agree *crap*, It's a real pain in the arse having to remove > the hood (on the 14-42mm) when you use the flash. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:06:07 2009 Received: (qmail 10228 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:06:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:06:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3A9430552 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41421CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4BA1CD482 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D56E63958 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:16 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c5196) id dm0205.4981cdff.6387a0 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiQYYDZu0vgIAAAAB,0e3d77da14f9965057addc1c59f12769 Message-ID: <4989061F.9080908@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:06:07 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:06:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989061f192749117217770 Thanks to everyone that responded with your comments and support. And yes, getting paid was a wonderful bonus. It made the purchase on an E-3 body possible. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:06:12 2009 Received: (qmail 18065 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:06:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:06:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBF343055F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330E4440050 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126FE1CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49EA1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090204030559.UYWN19709.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:05:59 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090203140514.CCM34633@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> References: <20090203140514.CCM34633@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Message-Id: <61B4A465-20B2-4264-823A-76098E6F3330@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:05:57 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Fwd: Re: (OT) A little street shooting in Cambridge (MA) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:06:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890624144778512572685 Yippeeeee! Someone alert the New York Times. --Bob www.bwp33.com On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Lawrence Woods wrote: > I was in Harvard Yard Monday night, and found the thing you > photographed. It is nowhere near the water pump. I stand > corrected, and you did indeed find the Harvard Monument to > Manhood. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:06:35 2009 Received: (qmail 24012 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:06:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:06:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8063B43057F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1227244004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1041CD488 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673901CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5069 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 03:06:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 03:06:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4989062F.4010702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:06:23 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Ooops! They shoulda used epoxy! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:06:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989063b325471869477228 Got this from the friendly folks at Canon today. E thing users feel free to gloat. Chuck Norcutt __________________________________________________ Dear Charles, Thank you for using Canon products. We have discovered that, in rare instances, the main mirror of some EOS 5D Digital SLR cameras may detach due to deterioration in the strength of the adhesive. Accordingly, we would like to convey the details and our service policy concerning this phenomenon. We offer our sincerest apologies to those customers who have been inconvenienced by this issue. Canon always strives to provide the highest quality products to our customers and we will spare no effort in our quality management to make sure our customers can use our products with confidence. We hope our efforts will earn your understanding. Phenomenon The main mirror of the camera detaches and images cannot be viewed through the viewfinder. Affected Product EOS 5D Digital SLR cameras whose main mirror has detached. User Support We will repair and reinforce the mirror portion of the affected products free of charge. If you own one of the affected products, please contact our Customer Support Center. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:12:49 2009 Received: (qmail 26778 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:12:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D3143058C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB43444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73E734AC002 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A22C34AC001 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090204031243.XXA22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:12:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:12:40 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:12:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498907b1281011035110158 When it's good but unintentional, it's called luck. But, hey, luck is just another four-letter word. Serendipity sounds so much more, ah, artsy. (Right, Marc?) And never underestimate the rewards of making Madame smile. It is a thing to strive for, as any old married man doth know. --Bob www.bwp33.com On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Bob. I like the effect, even if it was unintentional. And it > made Madame smile, mainly because I was there to take her home on a > snowy day with icy roads ... :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:13:14 2009 Received: (qmail 6374 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:13:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FF2430586 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828FA44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746D51CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F1C1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so830929anc.35 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:12:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.126.15 with SMTP id y15mr1238254anc.38.1233717176332; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:12:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:12:56 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0274f1e1c050a99a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:13:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498907ca247191257536491 > > Are those tennis shoes on Ken? In the snow? You wouldn't last four hours > out here in a New England winter. ;) > Off-road running shoes. My boots were in the Jeep. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:14:34 2009 Received: (qmail 27608 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:14:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:14:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D28943058E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F0744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC54B1CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:14:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A2C1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:14:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090204031428.VDYR19709.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:14:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:14:25 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:14:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989081a229469347015869 I'd reverse the order there, but that's a small thing. Congrats! --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Richard Lovison wrote: > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:18:10 2009 Received: (qmail 28219 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:18:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:18:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087FD43055D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8797744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F031CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B4F1CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0110.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0110.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63959638593 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:28:46 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c5196) id dm0205.4981cdff.63aa21 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:18:04 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiQjsnlIfggIAAAAB,fbc9e81c28deb22777030b666aaef58c Message-ID: <498908F3.8010003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:18:11 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4989062F.4010702@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4989062F.4010702@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Ooops! They shoulda used epoxy! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:18:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498908f2163717927319144 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Got this from the friendly folks at Canon today. E thing users feel > free to gloat. I can just imagine your choice of words if the mirror popped off during a shoot. Ya gotta keep them things out of the rain otherwise the glue that holds them together dissolves. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:19:43 2009 Received: (qmail 30763 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:19:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AFC43056A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6605E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE3D34AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37FC34AC02A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090204031937.WWXZ5582.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:19:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:19:35 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:19:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989094f143451529615919 I like eagles, but Loose Board is Fabulous! --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 3, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be > found herein!) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:20:07 2009 Received: (qmail 17709 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:20:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:20:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FB9430544 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5C344004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8941CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925201CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2024 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 03:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:19:44 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:19:40 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:20:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890967122361499373980 ***1979 - awesome shot. Took my breath away. That would make a magnificent poster. Everything about it is perfect, from that irregular curl of the lower leading primary feather to the position of the feet and the angle of the head. It's hard to imagine a better in-flight shot. Sell it. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au > Joel Wilcox wrote: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:26:10 2009 Received: (qmail 29777 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:26:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:26:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA62430558 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC42844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3334AC002 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:26:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D734AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:26:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15821 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 03:26:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:26:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890ad2248778512572685 I thought you were doing a job on us to lower our expectations but twarn't necessary. I'm also a sucker for sunrise and sunset so Dawn's Early Light hits me just right. I also thought you said or implied that you didn't get any good eagle shots. No flies on them babies either. I do like the old store front but not with your reflection in it. It changes the entire mood of the shot from something old to something right now. I'm not sure how to get rid of it. Maybe you should have stepped to the right a bit. The close-up worked better. The grain elevator(?) is an interesting architectural study in gray/blue but the criss-crossing wires just don't belong. I do like the old house and the old barn and also the house and barn on the hill top. Nathan would probably go berserk but if it were my image I'd have cloned out the power poles. Nice job. Much better than I usually get on a day's outing. And I think I've only ever seen two eagles in the wild in my entire life. But I'm highly competitive in gator and water moccasin sightings. :-) Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:33:38 2009 Received: (qmail 3658 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:33:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:33:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B932E1C40F46 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A3A44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D520A1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5615A1CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:33:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17189 invoked by uid 502); 4 Feb 2009 03:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.179.21) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 03:33:29 -0000 Message-ID: <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:33:25 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:33:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890c92154723675314703 Andrew Fildes wrote: > .... > Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. > - Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:35:17 2009 Received: (qmail 10817 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:35:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:35:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFB91C4030D for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B308944004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFE51CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243451CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-055.ctimail.com [61.93.57.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n143Z9qg019698 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:35:09 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n143Z9q7027627 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:35:09 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <81DBD92C963041BEA77E7521FBB5E489@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4989062F.4010702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:35:03 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Ooops! They shoulda used epoxy! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:35:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890cf513342046811720 This is a well known problem, here lots of Canyon users learnt about that. The new 5D II improved this by adding metal clamps on the mirror. The M*nolta 600si I once owned also had mirror popped off few days after purchase, I used back glass sealant to fix it and no more problem again. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > Got this from the friendly folks at Canon today. E thing users feel > free to gloat. > > Chuck Norcutt > __________________________________________________ > > Dear Charles, > > Thank you for using Canon products. > > We have discovered that, in rare instances, the main mirror of some EOS > 5D Digital SLR cameras may detach due to deterioration in the strength > of the adhesive. Accordingly, we would like to convey the details and > our service policy concerning this phenomenon. > > We offer our sincerest apologies to those customers who have been > inconvenienced by this issue. Canon always strives to provide the > highest quality products to our customers and we will spare no effort in > our quality management to make sure our customers can use our products > with confidence. We hope our efforts will earn your understanding. > > Phenomenon > The main mirror of the camera detaches and images cannot be viewed > through the viewfinder. > > Affected Product > EOS 5D Digital SLR cameras whose main mirror has detached. > > User Support > We will repair and reinforce the mirror portion of the affected products > free of charge. If you own one of the affected products, please contact > our Customer Support Center. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 04:42:33 2009 Received: (qmail 8201 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 03:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 03:42:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7F31C40F47 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6910344004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2131CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:42:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A831CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:42:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-055.ctimail.com [61.93.57.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n143gQwH020362 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:42:26 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n143gQFV028920 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:42:26 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <817F5C095C8C433E890D9D7B5926F1D7@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net><49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:42:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 04:42:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49890ea946942046811720 The feel wouldn't be so good if the focus was right :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Whitmire" > Not crisp, but a very pleasant effect. Good capture of the climate, > and a wee bit of mystery about that approaching figure. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> another shot of my wife coming out of her place of work >> resulted in her being out of focus as the system has (cleverly, I >> suppose) focused on the snow: >> >> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:02:02 2009 Received: (qmail 15666 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:02:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405491C40F02 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0717744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A861CD487 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:01:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEDD1CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:01:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2303986wfd.26 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.229.6 with SMTP id b6mr1641020wfh.256.1233720111362; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-220-35.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.220.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm8703706wfg.25.2009.02.03.20.01.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:01:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:01:46 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:02:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49891339133937350615338 Bob Whitmire wrote: > When it's good but unintentional, it's called luck. But, hey, luck is > just another four-letter word. Serendipity sounds so much more, ah, > artsy. (Right, Marc?) "Luck" is just "pluck" without the "p". (Hmm, this sounded funnier in my head. I need an editor) > On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Chris Barker wrote: >> Thanks, Bob. I like the effect, even if it was unintentional. And it >> made Madame smile, mainly because I was there to take her home on a >> snowy day with icy roads ... :-) I never mentioned before, but it's a fine photo. It's very pleasant to peruse, Chris. (which is "chrisp" also without the "p"...nope, still not funny). Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:05:26 2009 Received: (qmail 27293 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:05:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F231C40F57 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC14744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5FC1CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:05:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF84B1CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8332 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 04:05:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 04:05:18 -0000 Message-ID: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:05:18 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:05:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49891406176014673671140 Durn, gotta go on vacation again. It's tough but somebody's gotta do it and spend a little money to keep the economy agoin'. I'll be leavin' for Palmetto, Florida tomorrow and be gone for about 5 weeks. I'll be checkin' mail from time to time but will probably be a little slower than usual. I may have to walk a block or two to get a signal. Been thinkin' I might like to take a muck-about walk in the swamp with Clyde Butcher but I don't know if the timing will work out. 5Ds aren't waterproof though. I like Clyde's stuff as much or more so than Ansel Adams. One of my favorites bein' a cloud guy n' all. or this one Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:13:01 2009 Received: (qmail 24453 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:13:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E60C1C40F51 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5115244004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4676034AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B9434AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:12:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 689 invoked by uid 502); 4 Feb 2009 04:12:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.179.21) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 04:12:55 -0000 Message-ID: <498915C3.7040006@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:12:51 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net><49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <817F5C095C8C433E890D9D7B5926F1D7@main> In-Reply-To: <817F5C095C8C433E890D9D7B5926F1D7@main> Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:13:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498915cd210311993019900 C.H.Ling wrote: > The feel wouldn't be so good if the focus was right :-) > I agree, it's better as it is. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:16:24 2009 Received: (qmail 7119 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:16:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:16:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E692C1C40F4E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0190544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:16:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F5719FBEF for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:16:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7287419FBF5 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:16:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1925 invoked by uid 502); 4 Feb 2009 04:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.179.21) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 04:16:18 -0000 Message-ID: <4989168E.4040404@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:16:14 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:16:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49891698218151946193717 Richard Lovison wrote: > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. > > I did an architectural shoot ... Great! It is a perfect sot for the purpose. Also, it gives me an excuse to do what I've been meaning to do for days and days - say how nice it is to "hear" your voice on the list again after several months. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:21:18 2009 Received: (qmail 1154 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E16C1C40F4F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62F644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6233610004 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:21:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD5234AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:21:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.153]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so839707ywa.80 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:21:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.141.10 with SMTP id o10mr1186408and.145.1233721270926; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:21:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:21:10 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 384534838140ee38 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:21:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498917be3251035110158 > > I thought you were doing a job on us to lower our expectations but > twarn't necessary. Yeah, I've got to wake up pretty early in the morning to top Joel on these outings. I slept in while he was driving over from IC. The grain elevator(?) is an interesting architectural study in gray/blue > but the criss-crossing wires just don't belong. To get my shot I had to tightly crop around the lines and threw away a good 50% of the digital image. I think that Joel's picture isn't so much about the bin, but the entire scene of which the lines are a part of the composition. Maybe a monochrome conversion might change the perspective. BTW, it looks like I'm using the OM-4T in that one shot. The MD2 was attached and the lens was the 35-80. Depending on when it was taken, it was loaded with either Ilford PanF or Kodak Portra 400NC. OM camera gear worked flawlessly, of course. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:24:37 2009 Received: (qmail 16352 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:24:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:24:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415CF1C40F4E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D8544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347434AC03E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:24:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833C53610004 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:24:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2354335rvb.50 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.163.12 with SMTP id l12mr3388204rve.41.1233721470273; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm6427891rvb.9.2009.02.03.20.24.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:24:29 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> Message-Id: <297EEBF0-835E-4AB2-AF1B-A4EE62947E30@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:24:15 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) off-topic; Godalming snow photo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:24:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49891885223191257536491 i think so too, nice photo indeed. nico. On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Brian Swale wrote: Hi all http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=323417&l=4efb7&id=1027725807 Image on loan from my cousin Imogen; taken when she walked to work. She wrote that the snow came up to her knee; didn't say which knee or if the other knee was similarly afflicted :-)) I think it is a great photo. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 05:28:39 2009 Received: (qmail 30963 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 04:28:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 04:28:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3595E1C40F4E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D7744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EE234AC006 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EC634AC002 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.240]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2355711rvb.50 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.13.13 with SMTP id q13mr742437rvi.163.1233721712462; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm6403090rvb.3.2009.02.03.20.28.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:18 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 05:28:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49891977249881234514069 love the shots of the abandoned store - and it looks like it was freezing out there... nico. On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last weekend: http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 06:19:44 2009 Received: (qmail 14587 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 05:19:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 05:19:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44A51C40F57 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C613444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B501CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:19:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03791CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:19:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.123]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n145JYGw006375 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:19:35 +1100 Message-Id: <200902040519.n145JYGw006375@mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:19:34 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:19:34 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Ooops! They shoulda used epoxy! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 06:19:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49892570245851529615919 I don't have any interest in gloating (because something just as bad is likely to happen to an E-?). I can see this might do a bit of damage inside the mirror box, especially if you were shooting continuous. ...Wayne > Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: > > Got this from the friendly folks at Canon today. E thing users feel > free to gloat. > > Chuck Norcutt > __________________________________________________ > > Dear Charles, > > Thank you for using Canon products. > > We have discovered that, in rare instances, the main mirror of some EOS > 5D Digital SLR cameras may detach due to deterioration in the strength > of the adhesive. Accordingly, we would like to convey the details and > our service policy concerning this phenomenon. > > We offer our sincerest apologies to those customers who have been > inconvenienced by this issue. Canon always strives to provide the > highest quality products to our customers and we will spare no effort in > > our quality management to make sure our customers can use our products > with confidence. We hope our efforts will earn your understanding. > > Phenomenon > The main mirror of the camera detaches and images cannot be viewed > through the viewfinder. > > Affected Product > EOS 5D Digital SLR cameras whose main mirror has detached. > > User Support > We will repair and reinforce the mirror portion of the affected products > > free of charge. If you own one of the affected products, please contact > our Customer Support Center. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 06:24:00 2009 Received: (qmail 16594 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 05:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 05:23:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0941C40F69 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581F544004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550F19FCC6 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:23:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEF419FCC9 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:23:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.123]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n145NqBq007988 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:23:53 +1100 Message-Id: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:23:52 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:23:52 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 06:24:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989267020891529615919 > Moose <> wrote: > > Andrew Fildes wrote: > > .... > > Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. > > Not even the 9-18mm seems to be in the shops here yet ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 06:51:49 2009 Received: (qmail 7556 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 05:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 05:51:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC61D430554 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D7444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DE019FD0B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE19919FCDA for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DGX59896 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <95546798-3ADC-438A-B0B0-8878A3C39FFB@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:51:36 -0800 References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 06:51:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49892cf5179582070262475 On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found > herein!) > > Joel W. Loose boards caught my eye--lots of texture, but it also looks like it's a tad too sharp, crackly, dare I say? Maybe it's a killer lens you used, or the light/texture really is that crackly fragile looking. Also, it looks level, vertically, but at the same time looks like it's leaning to the left. And I finally get to see Ken! Looks *nothing* like the imaginary AG persona I had in mind, but that's how it always is, isn't it? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:05:08 2009 Received: (qmail 9943 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:05:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F7943055B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E135644004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A797E1CD487 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:05:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F801CD486 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:04:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 days 15:05:49 ago / 195.8.64.5 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from 187.red-79-147-168.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([79.147.168.187]:56517 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LUasZ-0002or-Eh (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:04:55 +0000 Message-Id: <6849EABA-5729-4C14-B183-473D62CF3CE6@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4988B949.40907@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:04:54 +0100 References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988B949.40907@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:05:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49893014194641838542571 Hi Chuck, Indeed, the diary aspect has not escaped me. Sometimes I go back and look at some week in, say, 2001. Also helps to resolve arguments with the Mrs. of the type: "what year did we go to Italy?" :-) Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Feb 3, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > It should have been obvious to me earlier but I guess you're also > building a little photographic diary of your life and times. You may > appreciate it more and more as the years roll on. Maybe you do and > don't show those here but also include some shots of your house and > the > immediate surroundings. I don't have those from the early part of my > life and I can't recreate them. The first two houses I lived in and > in > one case the entire surrounding area buildings have been demolished. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Why, thanks, Bob, but that's just my style because I'm a >> blabbermouth... >> >> When I started doing the weekly pictures in 2001, I more or less >> stuck >> with the images. But over the years it has kind of evolved into the >> weekly blog it is now. Every week I try to put together a story of my >> week, comprised of words and images. That is my way, but then again >> there are others who just put up awesome pictures that need no >> commentary. The diversity is what makes this whole web interaction so >> rewarding. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> >> On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >> >>> I like! For some reason the dark profile with glasses lens really >>> caught me. But to truly follow Nathan's lead, we need to include a >>> brief commentary on each shot. Sometimes the words make the picture, >>> IMO. >>> >>> --Bob Whitmire >>> www.bwp33.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:17 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 >>>> >>>> Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good >>>> as >>>> Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + >>>> Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:18:33 2009 Received: (qmail 24345 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:18:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:18:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FC64305AA for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE5E44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29183610004 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:18:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6BB34AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:18:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28F54615F6 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:37:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:18:25 +0000 References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:18:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989333964821470116606 Thanks, for that, Acer; I prefer the people photos. And the contre- jour shots have come out particularly well. Chris On 2 Feb 2009, at 23:17, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2143969&l=da23a&id=6313229 > > Some food, some people, and general merriment. Not nearly as good as > Nathan's by any means. Shot with a mix of Oly E10, Sony Alpha 100 + > Sigma 18-50 and Nikon D90 + Nikkor 16-85 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:20:17 2009 Received: (qmail 4520 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:20:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:20:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8BB4305AA for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B862C44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A953E1CD487 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE2C1CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B75F46152E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:39:05 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:20:09 +0000 References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:20:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498933a1182257350615338 Use a blogging tool, like WordPress or Blogger, Chuck. It is reasonably easy, even if you decide to install WordPress on your own domain. Chris On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:54, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Something I can't do with my simple HTML page generator. Maybe > Lightroom (which I have but don't use yet) or PS itself does this > somehow. What do folks use for simple one-off page generation that > would allow photo commentary. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:24:55 2009 Received: (qmail 32266 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:24:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:24:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563384305BC for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B6C44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0AE34AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:24:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416F234AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:24:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE7046152E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:42 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:24:47 +0000 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:24:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498934b7153041838542571 5 weeks? Are you retired or something, Chuck? :-) That looks amazing, and the weather should be very comfortable. Have fun. Perhaps you ought to borrow an E-3 ... :-) Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 04:05, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Durn, gotta go on vacation again. It's tough but somebody's gotta > do it > and spend a little money to keep the economy agoin'. I'll be leavin' > for Palmetto, Florida tomorrow and be gone for about 5 weeks. I'll be > checkin' mail from time to time but will probably be a little slower > than usual. I may have to walk a block or two to get a signal. > > Been thinkin' I might like to take a muck-about walk in the swamp with > Clyde Butcher but I don't know if the timing will work out. 5Ds > aren't > waterproof though. I like Clyde's stuff as > much or more so than Ansel Adams. One of my favorites bein' a cloud > guy > n' all. > > > or this one > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:26:11 2009 Received: (qmail 8356 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:26:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:26:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F85A430595 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DFC44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBC134AC02B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:26:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B5734AC028 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:26:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7A246152E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <95713919-961D-4660-802F-C47352B76C4D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:26:04 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:26:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49893503125762336821329 Indeed, Chum, indeed :-) Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 03:12, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > And never underestimate the rewards of making Madame smile. It is a > thing to strive for, as any old married man doth know. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:27:24 2009 Received: (qmail 6360 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:27:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:27:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608B1430560 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8B744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12581CD489 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:27:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D4F1CD488 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:27:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6128746152E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:46:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:27:18 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:27:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989354c287789117217770 Well at 0630 it made me laugh! :-) Thanks, Marc. Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 04:01, Marc Lawrence wrote: > > I never mentioned before, but it's a fine photo. It's very pleasant to > peruse, Chris. (which is "chrisp" also without the "p"...nope, still > not > funny). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:28:15 2009 Received: (qmail 4486 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:28:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A81430560 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A2044004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E371CD488 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:28:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DFF1CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:28:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F2846152E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:47:05 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <7D4434B5-9035-42B8-AB60-9BD0B886112B@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498915C3.7040006@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:28:09 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net><49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <817F5C095C8C433E890D9D7B5926F1D7@main> <498915C3.7040006@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:28:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989357f322951993019900 Thanks, Moose and CH. As Bob wrote, serendipity indeed. Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 04:12, Moose wrote: > C.H.Ling wrote: >> The feel wouldn't be so good if the focus was right :-) >> > > I agree, it's better as it is. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:36:33 2009 Received: (qmail 17159 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:36:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C4143056A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E8D44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D41D34AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:36:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CC634AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:36:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8839831410E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3481C31410A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:04:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49893775.6050206@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:36:37 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Western Digital My Passport Essential USB2.0-Powered, External Drives X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:36:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49893771244482336821329 > > Someday we'll be on solid state drives. Then the speed will really > increase. :-) Very very soon! Newegg has a special on a 60gb SSD for about $105. I was tempted for an OS or scratch disk drive but there are reports that while the reads are phenomenally fast the writes stall out. So unless you have a need for really long battery life on a notebook or an app that reads cached data (TOPO! comes to mind) they aren't ready for prime time yet. Note: I see that the manufacturer has put up a link to help sort out the read/write speed issues. I can't get to it. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:39:45 2009 Received: (qmail 28438 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:39:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B287743059B for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F9744004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DAE1CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C461CD488 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37D231410E for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36F431410A for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:07:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49893836.1070609@interisland.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:39:50 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:39:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989383123523675314703 > Yes I agree *crap*, It's a real pain in the arse having to remove the hood (on the 14-42mm) when you use the flash. Even when I pull the hood there is a big shadow. And the thing has an effective working range of about 6 feet. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 07:57:49 2009 Received: (qmail 4077 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 06:57:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 06:57:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846C3430560 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2E444004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5BF34AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:57:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0209C34AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:57:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 days 15:58:31 ago / 195.8.64.4 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from 187.red-79-147-168.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([79.147.168.187]:56565 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LUbhZ-0001WY-CO (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:57:38 +0000 Message-Id: <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:57:36 +0100 References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 07:57:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49893c6d293721234514069 Yes, that is what I use, beginning with the 2006 PAWs. Installing stuff on a server may sound complicated but actually isn't. You just need a server with an SQL database and the ability to install things on it. Most hosting companies provide the database, and many nowadays include Wordpress already pre-installed. The Lightroom web page generator is pretty good too (that is what I use for my frozenlight.eu site) but the running commentary has to be in the form of captions (which can be as long as you wish, I think, at least I have never run into any limitation). Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Feb 4, 2009, at 7:20 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Use a blogging tool, like WordPress or Blogger, Chuck. It is > reasonably easy, even if you decide to install WordPress on your own > domain. > > Chris > On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:54, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Something I can't do with my simple HTML page generator. Maybe >> Lightroom (which I have but don't use yet) or PS itself does this >> somehow. What do folks use for simple one-off page generation that >> would allow photo commentary. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 08:14:14 2009 Received: (qmail 2993 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 07:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 07:14:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B45243058C for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF46844004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3BB34AC037 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:14:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F17F34AC032 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:14:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5545 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 07:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 07:14:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-Id: <1EA5EA31-6507-4CE6-A1A0-3F94E78698F3@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:13:59 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 08:14:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49894046148802336821329 Croydon Camera House had one the other day for around $800. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > >> Moose <> wrote: >> >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >>> .... >>> Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. >>> > > Not even the 9-18mm seems to be in the shops here yet ! > > ...Wayne > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 08:17:44 2009 Received: (qmail 21224 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 07:17:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 07:17:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAC8430599 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F1344004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792F61CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:17:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E91D1CD481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:17:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5801 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 07:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 07:17:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:31 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 08:17:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989411812589117217770 That's the same cute concept body they showed at PMA - I suspect it'll be rather different when it appears. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 2:33 PM, Moose wrote: > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> .... >> Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. >> > - > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 08:53:27 2009 Received: (qmail 6293 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 07:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 07:53:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CE44305C5 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C5C44004F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D0E1CD485 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:53:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04A91CD483 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:53:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 23:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n147rFeN008569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:53:17 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> <1EA5EA31-6507-4CE6-A1A0-3F94E78698F3@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <1EA5EA31-6507-4CE6-A1A0-3F94E78698F3@people.net.au> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:53:15 +1100 Message-ID: <000001c9869d$a3b67140$eb2353c0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmGmC8Xx8axed7iRgaOtrLNVdHyJgABJtfw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 08:53:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49894977241561234514069 G'day Andrew, That's interesting, I was in town on Monday and called into MICHAELS where they seemed to have a reasonable collection of E-Stuff, but they didn't have one and it wasn't listed on their glass typewriter either. $800 isn't bad, late last year it would have cost me $AU1000+ to get it from Adorama. Have you tried it ? After just spending $1600 on a major service for the Golf it seems *cheap*. What are you doing this weekend ? Is it worth trying to arrange something with Ian Manners ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 6:14 PM To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, Croydon Camera House had one the other day for around $800. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > >> Moose <> wrote: >> >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >>> .... >>> Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. >>> > > Not even the 9-18mm seems to be in the shops here yet ! > > ...Wayne > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 09:44:51 2009 Received: (qmail 20411 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 08:44:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 08:44:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA974301AB for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641D444004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3668A19DADA for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:44:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46F419DA77 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:44:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 00:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21817 invoked by uid 502); 4 Feb 2009 08:44:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.160.179) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 08:44:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4989556A.3010004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:44:26 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 09:44:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49895583306505368819438 Chris Barker wrote: > Well at 0630 it made me laugh! :-) > If I laugh at that hour, it's in a dream. :-) A. Night Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 10:04:46 2009 Received: (qmail 14019 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 09:04:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 09:04:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE72430192 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C625644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B321834AC034 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:04:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F72634AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:04:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29719 invoked by uid 502); 4 Feb 2009 09:04:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.160.63) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 09:04:38 -0000 Message-ID: <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:04:32 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 10:04:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49895a2e8551946193717 Andrew Fildes wrote: > That's the same cute concept body they showed at PMA - I suspect it'll be rather different when it appears. > Like - not a bar of soap wrapped in leather with a lens stuck into it? Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 10:06:29 2009 Received: (qmail 22496 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 09:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 09:06:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E431D430143 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB16244004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867C234AC037 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:06:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54D934AC032 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 10:06:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49895a95123077927319144 Try the Lumiquest soft screen: http://www.amazon.com/Lumiquest-Soft-Screen-Diffusion-Flashes/dp/B000B5H2BE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1233738301&sr=8-3 cheers jez On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I've never seen such a thing but I'd be surprised if someone somewhere > doesn't make a simple sort of diffuser for clipping on to the camera > somehow for pop-up flashes. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:03:22 2009 Received: (qmail 22928 invoked by uid 0); 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Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n14A3Bv6001570 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:03:13 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> <1EA5EA31-6507-4CE6-A1A0-3F94E78698F3@people.net.au> <000001c9869d$a3b67140$eb2353c0$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <000001c9869d$a3b67140$eb2353c0$@com.au> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:03:11 +1100 Message-ID: <006801c986af$ca71bc60$5f553520$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmGmC8Xx8axed7iRgaOtrLNVdHyJgABJtfwAAS5CHA= Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:03:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498967ea155534673671140 Oops, sorry, this shoulda been off list - hope I haven't incriminated myself ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Harridge [mailto:wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 6:53 PM To: 'Olympus Camera Discussion' Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, G'day Andrew, That's interesting, I was in town on Monday and called into MICHAELS where they seemed to have a reasonable collection of E-Stuff, but they didn't have one and it wasn't listed on their glass typewriter either. $800 isn't bad, late last year it would have cost me $AU1000+ to get it from Adorama. Have you tried it ? After just spending $1600 on a major service for the Golf it seems *cheap*. What are you doing this weekend ? Is it worth trying to arrange something with Ian Manners ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 6:14 PM To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, Croydon Camera House had one the other day for around $800. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 4:23 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > >> Moose <> wrote: >> >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >>> .... >>> Still nothing on the compact Micro 4/3rds body - damn. >>> > > Not even the 9-18mm seems to be in the shops here yet ! > > ...Wayne > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:05:00 2009 Received: (qmail 2461 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:04:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:04:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42E7430148 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878ACD0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A1819DD98 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:04:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37B019DD73 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:04:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n14A4hNC022434 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:04:51 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:04:42 +1100 Message-ID: <006901c986b0$052c5f90$0f851eb0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmGp6ASRHes2UAlS4aA2ZHENv2kdAACEZsg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:05:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989684c145071823421471 I think it was an old trip 35 with Morgan Sparks leather. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Andrew Fildes wrote: > That's the same cute concept body they showed at PMA - I suspect it'll be rather different when it appears. > Like - not a bar of soap wrapped in leather with a lens stuck into it? Moose -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:25:58 2009 Received: (qmail 8849 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:25:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:25:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6786D430148 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2C8D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A047634AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:25:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52834AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:25:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26145 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 10:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 10:25:48 -0000 Message-ID: <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:25:48 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:25:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896d3680181470116606 Gotta have a break from the snow. I imagine y'all could use a break from the snow too. :-) Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > 5 weeks? Are you retired or something, Chuck? :-) > > That looks amazing, and the weather should be very comfortable. Have > fun. > > Perhaps you ought to borrow an E-3 ... :-) > > Chris > > On 4 Feb 2009, at 04:05, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Durn, gotta go on vacation again. It's tough but somebody's gotta >> do it >> and spend a little money to keep the economy agoin'. I'll be leavin' >> for Palmetto, Florida tomorrow and be gone for about 5 weeks. I'll be >> checkin' mail from time to time but will probably be a little slower >> than usual. I may have to walk a block or two to get a signal. >> >> Been thinkin' I might like to take a muck-about walk in the swamp with >> Clyde Butcher but I don't know if the timing will work out. 5Ds >> aren't >> waterproof though. I like Clyde's stuff as >> much or more so than Ansel Adams. One of my favorites bein' a cloud >> guy >> n' all. >> > or this one >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:30:06 2009 Received: (qmail 19640 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:30:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:30:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A56C430180 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E00D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D7834AC034 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:30:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F8A34AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:29:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25720 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 10:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:29:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <000001c9869d$a3b67140$eb2353c0$@com.au> References: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> <1EA5EA31-6507-4CE6-A1A0-3F94E78698F3@people.net.au> <000001c9869d$a3b67140$eb2353c0$@com.au> Message-Id: <0503BF8C-7A91-46AB-B45F-8ADB80550AE6@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:29:51 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:30:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896e2e267961499373980 I have a quick thingy on Saturday am but that's all. I need to shoot some test shots with the E-30 so why not set summat up? Sounds good. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 6:53 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > That's interesting, I was in town on Monday and called into > MICHAELS where > they seemed to have a reasonable collection of E-Stuff, but they > didn't have > one and it wasn't listed on their glass typewriter either. > > $800 isn't bad, late last year it would have cost me $AU1000+ to > get it from > Adorama. Have you tried it ? After just spending $1600 on a major > service > for the Golf it seems *cheap*. > > What are you doing this weekend ? > > Is it worth trying to arrange something with Ian Manners ? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:31:49 2009 Received: (qmail 6296 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:31:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30432430146 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED44D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC4019DE34 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE7519DE53 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29102 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 10:31:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 10:31:40 -0000 Message-ID: <49896E8B.5080403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:31:39 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988B949.40907@chucknorcutt.com> <6849EABA-5729-4C14-B183-473D62CF3CE6@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <6849EABA-5729-4C14-B183-473D62CF3CE6@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:31:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896e95267377350615338 We don't have such arguments. She is always correct. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Indeed, the diary aspect has not escaped me. Sometimes I go back and > look at some week in, say, 2001. Also helps to resolve arguments with > the Mrs. of the type: "what year did we go to Italy?" :-) > > Cheers, > Nathan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:32:11 2009 Received: (qmail 26428 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:32:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:32:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9154043014F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2160FD0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF08E34AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB1234AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LUf30-0003sI-Ac for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:31:58 +0000 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LUf2z-0000aq-To for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:31:57 +0000 Message-ID: <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:32:10 +0000 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:32:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896eab102509117217770 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Gotta have a break from the snow. I imagine y'all could use a break > from the snow too. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > Not me, mate. Haven't had any here in the 'frozen north'; no fair! Have a nice time down there! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:32:12 2009 Received: (qmail 24992 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:32:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:32:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD7143017B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21062D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F14419DE38 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F91319DE58 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26129 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 10:32:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:32:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> Message-Id: <8003DE17-6499-416D-82CB-C56DB4F947E9@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:31:58 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:32:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896eac156745368819438 Don't forget the silver paint and snake oil! It did occur to me that when they mentioned a new SLR...could they be referring to something micro 4/3rds? Hmmmm. Timing seems right. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 8:04 PM, Moose wrote: > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> That's the same cute concept body they showed at PMA - I suspect >> it'll be rather different when it appears. >> > > Like - not a bar of soap wrapped in leather with a lens stuck into it? > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:32:48 2009 Received: (qmail 12337 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:32:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:32:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F101430105 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0201D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD39619DE58 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0065319DE4F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26194 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 10:32:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:32:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <006901c986b0$052c5f90$0f851eb0$@com.au> References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> <006901c986b0$052c5f90$0f851eb0$@com.au> Message-Id: <303C04CC-7255-4FCE-8726-4251EB1A49F6@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:32:36 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:32:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896ed061171035110158 And the rangefinder sliced off? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 9:04 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > I think it was an old trip 35 with Morgan Sparks leather. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:34:13 2009 Received: (qmail 14895 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:34:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:34:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CB24301AA for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DFED0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663DD19DE63 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:34:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7383319DE58 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:34:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30936 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 10:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 10:34:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49896F1D.1090405@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:34:05 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:34:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49896f25205031946193717 Thanks guys. I'll check into it but later. It's too much work for vacation. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Yes, that is what I use, beginning with the 2006 PAWs. Installing > stuff on a server may sound complicated but actually isn't. You just > need a server with an SQL database and the ability to install things > on it. Most hosting companies provide the database, and many nowadays > include Wordpress already pre-installed. > > The Lightroom web page generator is pretty good too (that is what I > use for my frozenlight.eu site) but the running commentary has to be > in the form of captions (which can be as long as you wish, I think, at > least I have never run into any limitation). > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 7:20 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> Use a blogging tool, like WordPress or Blogger, Chuck. It is >> reasonably easy, even if you decide to install WordPress on your own >> domain. >> >> Chris >> On 3 Feb 2009, at 19:54, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> Something I can't do with my simple HTML page generator. Maybe >>> Lightroom (which I have but don't use yet) or PS itself does this >>> somehow. What do folks use for simple one-off page generation that >>> would allow photo commentary. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:43:50 2009 Received: (qmail 22626 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:43:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:43:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7647043017B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27276D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D01019DED8 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:43:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA9C19DED3 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:43:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2571 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 10:43:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 10:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <4989715E.6080103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:43:42 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49888509.1020202@interisland.net> <4988A075.5080003@chucknorcutt.com> <9f07ac840902040106m6fa35838yfcf3abc0bf06179c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840902040106m6fa35838yfcf3abc0bf06179c@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:43:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49897166173471869477228 Interesting. I should have checked Lumiquest and Sto-fen. One of them was bound to have something. Sto-fen has one too: I'll bet it works better but looks clumsy. Chuck Norcutt Jez Cunningham wrote: > Try the Lumiquest soft screen: > > http://www.amazon.com/Lumiquest-Soft-Screen-Diffusion-Flashes/dp/B000B5H2BE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1233738301&sr=8-3 > > cheers > jez > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Chuck Norcutt > wrote: > >> I've never seen such a thing but I'd be surprised if someone somewhere >> doesn't make a simple sort of diffuser for clipping on to the camera >> somehow for pop-up flashes. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:46:14 2009 Received: (qmail 12647 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:46:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476B21C403AD for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA4DD0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9726819DEF7 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:46:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC9A19DED8 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:46:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31862 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 10:46:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:46:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <006801c986af$ca71bc60$5f553520$@com.au> References: <200902040523.n145NqBq007988@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> <1EA5EA31-6507-4CE6-A1A0-3F94E78698F3@people.net.au> <000001c9869d$a3b67140$eb2353c0$@com.au> <006801c986af$ca71bc60$5f553520$@com.au> Message-Id: <346BF08A-FDD6-428F-B2ED-16D7DCB2FCFC@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:46:01 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:46:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498971f6123311823421471 Good job it wasn't - my reply to your off-list message just bounced! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/02/2009, at 9:03 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Oops, sorry, this shoulda been off list - hope I haven't > incriminated myself -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 11:48:47 2009 Received: (qmail 10493 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 10:48:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 10:48:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FCE430167 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E591D0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:48:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF5519DF16 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:48:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6B519DCDE for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:48:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 02:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2435844wfd.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.136.16 with SMTP id j16mr2607232wfd.27.1233744521503; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-220-35.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.220.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm9300576wfg.25.2009.02.04.02.48.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:48:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49897284.1080606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:48:36 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902032258.n13Mwwjj023070@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9AB7AB34-79E8-4302-AF1C-B045F2370111@people.net.au> <49890C85.8060305@gmail.com> <49895A20.7000603@gmail.com> <8003DE17-6499-416D-82CB-C56DB4F947E9@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <8003DE17-6499-416D-82CB-C56DB4F947E9@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] food<>photography, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 11:48:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989728f87481499373980 Andrew Fildes wrote: > Don't forget the silver paint and snake oil! It did occur to me that > when they mentioned a new SLR...could they be referring to something > micro 4/3rds? Hmmmm. Timing seems right. From The Online Photographer: "...On the digital front, the BJoP is also saying that the first two Olympus Micro 4/3 cameras, one of which was shown as a wooden mockup at Photokina, are only "days (or weeks) away." Of course, as goes with these things, this might be a rumour of a rumour of a rumour that ends up eating its own tale/tail, but I thought I'd post the link anyway, since it also refers to the Fuji folder, which I believe some here had an interest in. Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 13:18:53 2009 Received: (qmail 27003 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 12:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 12:18:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1EC0430153 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BE044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC9434AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:18:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208B034AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:18:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LUgiC-0007kn-Iu for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:18:36 +0000 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:18:34 -0000 Message-ID: <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> Thread-Index: AcmGs9W9MmZp+E03SBWqaxg+Vb2GAwADpkBA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 03/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 13:18:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498987ad248411529615919 Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go figure, as I believe one says. Have a fine time, Chuck, we will save up the flash and hard disk technology questions for when you return. Piers -----Original Message----- From: Donald [mailto:d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 04 February 2009 10:32 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Gotta have a break from the snow. I imagine y'all could use a break > from the snow too. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > Not me, mate. Haven't had any here in the 'frozen north'; no fair! Have a nice time down there! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 13:30:39 2009 Received: (qmail 28791 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 12:30:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 12:30:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E8F430143 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B503F44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939A519E1F5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:30:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F4E19E1F3 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:30:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0207.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B8C6488A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:42:58 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0207 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c517f) id dm0207.4981ce11.69a173 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:30:33 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiYpp7AqDcgIAAAAB,d97e6c30b5431c9ce6f60576f5036d21 Message-ID: <49898A71.8020805@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:30:41 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <4989168E.4040404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4989168E.4040404@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 13:30:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49898a6f138641838542571 Moose wrote: > Great! It is a perfect sot for the purpose. > > Also, it gives me an excuse to do what I've been meaning to do for days > and days - say how nice it is to "hear" your voice on the list again > after several months. Thanks, that was very kind of you. It's good to be back "hearing" everyone's voice. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 13:45:53 2009 Received: (qmail 24482 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 12:45:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 12:45:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EE54301C5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9FED0404A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD73D19E261 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:45:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2544119E24F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:45:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 04:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27735 invoked by uid 504); 4 Feb 2009 12:45:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.81.112) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Feb 2009 12:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <49898DE2.2050909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:45:22 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> In-Reply-To: <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 13:45:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49898e0197922336821329 I'll be watching the mail from time to time. I just don't know yet if I'll have a good wireless connection from where I'm staying or if I'll have to hoof it a couple of blocks where I know there's a good one. Chuck Norcutt Piers Hemy wrote: > Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go figure, as I > believe one says. > > Have a fine time, Chuck, we will save up the flash and hard disk technology > questions for when you return. > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald [mailto:d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: 04 February 2009 10:32 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Gotta have a break from the snow. I imagine y'all could use a break >> from the snow too. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> > > Not me, mate. Haven't had any here in the 'frozen north'; no fair! > > Have a nice time down there! > > D. > > > -- > I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 14:03:14 2009 Received: (qmail 9112 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 13:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 13:03:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A18E1C40F53 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6181144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514FE19E2E0 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:03:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC41B19E2CF for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:03:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0207.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1377319F8 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0207 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c517f) id dm0207.4981ce11.692c50 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:03:08 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiZIMXMI2/AIAAAAB,9aded61de7c6685d538d63ce3d2e92d2 Message-ID: <49899214.8020109@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:03:16 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <49898DE2.2050909@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49898DE2.2050909@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 02/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 14:03:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49899212310681234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I'll be watching the mail from time to time. I just don't know yet if > I'll have a good wireless connection from where I'm staying or if I'll > have to hoof it a couple of blocks where I know there's a good one. Enjoy the warmth. :) If you find that internet connection post some images of the oceanfront... that is if the ocean spray doesn't dissolve the remaining amount of glue holding that mirror in place. I'm such a stinker, I couldn't resist. :) Have fun! Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 14:17:19 2009 Received: (qmail 27581 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 13:17:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 13:17:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5711C40F3D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F77D34AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:17:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2604A34AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:17:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.23.170.146] (helo=anti-virus03-09) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LUhct-00089W-9W for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:17:11 +0000 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LUhcs-0000ct-Ty for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:17:10 +0000 Message-ID: <49899564.5080809@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:17:24 +0000 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <49898DE2.2050909@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49898DE2.2050909@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 14:17:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989955f14749347015869 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I'll be watching the mail from time to time. I just don't know yet if > I'll have a good wireless connection from where I'm staying or if I'll > have to hoof it a couple of blocks where I know there's a good one. > > Chuck Norcutt > At least you won't be hoofing through drifts... D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 14:59:42 2009 Received: (qmail 18962 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 13:59:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 13:59:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4C81C40F48 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E59F44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212BE34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:59:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FAD34AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:59:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.228.168]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEJ00HDXO71F5V2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:59:26 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <49899F47.6000308@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:59:35 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4989062F.4010702@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4989062F.4010702@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Ooops! They shoulda used epoxy! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 14:59:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49899f4e108745368819438 Nice they admit it and offer a factory improvement. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Got this from the friendly folks at Canon today. E thing users feel > free to gloat. > > Chuck Norcutt > __________________________________________________ > > Dear Charles, > > Thank you for using Canon products. > > We have discovered that, in rare instances, the main mirror of some EOS > 5D Digital SLR cameras may detach due to deterioration in the strength > of the adhesive. Accordingly, we would like to convey the details and > our service policy concerning this phenomenon. > > We offer our sincerest apologies to those customers who have been > inconvenienced by this issue. Canon always strives to provide the > highest quality products to our customers and we will spare no effort in > our quality management to make sure our customers can use our products > with confidence. We hope our efforts will earn your understanding. > > Phenomenon > The main mirror of the camera detaches and images cannot be viewed > through the viewfinder. > > Affected Product > EOS 5D Digital SLR cameras whose main mirror has detached. > > User Support > We will repair and reinforce the mirror portion of the affected products > free of charge. If you own one of the affected products, please contact > our Customer Support Center. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:08:51 2009 Received: (qmail 28505 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:08:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5E81C40F3C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B466144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E2334AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF8134AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 097BE03EK2 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:42 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:08:11 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results Thread-Index: AcmGbkBdoF71Ecl5T7yK3Itu27JfFwAY7AHw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2009 14:08:42.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[15F3C080:01C986D2] Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:08:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a173232951234514069 >>Excellent eagle shots. Good job on the store front. I don't recall seeing that broken board. AG That's because Joel popped it loose after you had moved on...... Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. 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Central Standard Time, rlovison@gmail.com writes: They paid me well... As well, they should. Lovely work. Bill Barber **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:18:43 2009 Received: (qmail 30575 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:18:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:18:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F091C40F3B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF78B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC5E19E5B7 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:18:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5674B19E59C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:18:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cf7.4c1db360 (29678) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:18:28 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:18:28 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:18:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a3c3102601585427447 In a message dated 2/3/2009 10:05:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: Been thinkin' I might like to take a muck-about walk in the swamp with Clyde Butcher Hope you do and share some of your images. As do you, I really like his work. The alligators and water moccasins aren't a big deal . . . not sure which ones are the meanest. Bill Barber **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:22:56 2009 Received: (qmail 30862 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:22:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9911C40F38 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B620E44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44BC3610007 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:22:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107553610006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:22:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m11.mail.aol.com (imo-m11.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.99]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cfb.4d9b9036 (29678) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:22:41 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:22:41 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:22:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a4c0185502046811720 Anybody have any ideas how I can get this crap off the bottom of my emails? In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:18:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, NSURIT@aol.com writes: Hope you do and share some of your images. As do you, I really like his work. The alligators and water moccasins aren't a big deal . . . not sure which ones are the meanest. Bill Barber **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:36:55 2009 Received: (qmail 1001 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:36:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:36:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEED1C40F6B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B101C44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26FD19E662 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C0319E6CF for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so898739yxi.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:36:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.96.10 with SMTP id t10mr2709567anb.32.1233758206147; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:36:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:36:46 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae57cdde3eb969b0 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:36:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a807284471234514069 > > That's because Joel popped it loose after you had moved on...... > Jim > That explains that sly look he had. I thought he was up to something. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:38:09 2009 Received: (qmail 13144 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:38:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:38:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D891C40F52 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F8D44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B353F34AC02B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:38:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339CC34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:38:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so899022yxi.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:38:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.133.1 with SMTP id g1mr2133725and.159.1233758281424; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:38:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:38:01 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e66b69c420a390fc Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:38:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a851188111073733319 > > Anybody have any ideas how I can get this crap off the bottom of my > emails? > Yes, get rid of AOL. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:40:39 2009 Received: (qmail 21097 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:40:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:40:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9631C4050A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CDC44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C0619E6DD for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0B519E6DA for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so898172anc.35 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:40:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.205.15 with SMTP id c15mr964459ang.98.1233758432335; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:40:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:40:32 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 69e39e3a9029533c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:40:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a8e7174071234514069 Anyone? Anybody interested in exploring the concept of how flat Iowa is on a > peddly-bike? This summer is another annual installment of RAGBRAI. (google > is a wonderful tool here). I am planning on biking the entire week. > Anybody interested in coming along? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 15:43:51 2009 Received: (qmail 9450 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 14:43:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 14:43:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96A11C4050D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3D944004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEA819E704 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919A119E702 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.76]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 37E588E30U for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:43:42 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 06:42:44 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. Thread-Index: AcmG1o5JQ+djvkUPSZ2SneMTUjW1mgAACHJw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2009 14:43:42.0306 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9749420:01C986D6] Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 15:43:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989a9a7300561838542571 >Anybody interested in exploring the concept of how flat Iowa is on a > peddly-bike? This summer is another annual installment of RAGBRAI. > (google is a wonderful tool here). I am planning on biking the entire > week. Anybody interested in coming along? -- >>Anyone? It's still 0:dark thirty out here on the left coast. Give folks a chance to wake up and have their morning coffee. Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. 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The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:10:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989aff0150541702588592 I have always wanted to do the ride, but mid July is the high season at my shop, so it is real tough to get away for a week. Jim Couch Ken Norton wrote: > Anyone? > > Anybody interested in exploring the concept of how flat Iowa is on a > >> peddly-bike? This summer is another annual installment of RAGBRAI. (google >> is a wonderful tool here). I am planning on biking the entire week. >> Anybody interested in coming along? >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:11:24 2009 Received: (qmail 15619 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:11:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D873C1C40F37 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DDC19E88E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:11:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40AD19E8CB for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:11:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cbd.397b36eb (29678) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:11:00 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:11:00 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:11:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b01c31761838542571 Some of us are slower learners than others. It is a little like an old pair of shoes . . . comfortable. I've had this email address for close to 25 years. It would be like a divorce. Any other suggestions? Bill Barber In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:38:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Yes, get rid of AOL. **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:19:30 2009 Received: (qmail 13832 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:19:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:19:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327D81C40F02 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FE744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CED34AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632D434AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 8D0CCD1CL5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:50 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:18:17 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! Thread-Index: AcmG2tz0e+9SUsd6QGmz7lPUu9lgEgAALIEw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2009 15:18:50.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[E232A720:01C986DB] Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:19:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b202161225368819438 >> It would be like a divorce. Any other suggestions? Bill Barber Maybe a trial separation. You could keep the AWOL for personal and get a second address just for list activities. Just a thought. Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment to this email. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:26:06 2009 Received: (qmail 4917 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:26:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:26:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D11F1C40F60 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388BB44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2846834AC02B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD2234AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:25:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so910113anc.35 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:25:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.247.12 with SMTP id u12mr36401anh.102.1233761158763; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:25:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:25:58 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c9ded7540f7a4bf2 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:26:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b38e161481585427447 > > It's still 0:dark thirty out here on the left coast. Give folks a > chance to wake up and have their morning coffee. > Yeah, I guess you are right. Asking somebody to bicycle their rumps off is something that needs two cups of coffee to contemplate correctly. My employer is putting a team together, so it will be semi-supported and we get to stay in people's homes. So no need to worry about soggy tents in the "refugee camp". Whichever town RAGBRAI overnights in is temporarily the second most populated city in the state. For more information, visit http://www.ragbrai.org/ RAGBRAI is unlike anything you've ever seen. Some view it as a weeklong death-march on wheels, others view it as a legal way to "drink and drive" all the way across an entire state. It's both one big rolling party and a way to connect with friends from all over the world. On any given day you can have over 20,000 bicyclists with an almost equal amount of support people and visitors. For some people it's all about the bicycle, for others it's about the culture, for some it's about the party. Take your pick and you can hang out with like-minded people. The "scenery" ain't too bad either. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:31:11 2009 Received: (qmail 1282 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:31:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:31:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52D01C40F52 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFB544004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BED734AC03F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:31:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE8434AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:31:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.ce7.4624d704 (29678) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:56 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:55 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:31:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b4bf128702070262475 Yes, I know it is cold up north and you know it is warm down south. We will probably be in the high 60's or low 70's today. We've had one or two days so far this year that have dipped below freezing and this isn't about global warming, it just happens to be the way things are in Texas when it isn't hotter than hell. What you may not know is it is drier than a popcorn fart down here. Driest year since 1902. Yes, I know, we should just suck it up. Unfortunately, that is exactly what San Antonio has been doing for many years . . . sucking the Edwards Aquifer dry. What that means is, as a new homeowners in an area on top of the Edwards, I can't tap into it for my water. That really isn't a problem as I installed a rainwater collection system when the house was built. Unfortunately we plan to move in by the end of the month and we have two 10,000 gallon rainwater storage tanks that are empty. That sucks! So, my request of the list is for each of you to take a moment this weekend and do a little rain dance for central Texas. Perhaps the collective consciousness of the OMers will break this dry spell. What this has to do with OMs is that I need water for my wet darkroom. Until it rains, there will be no "cloud juice" produced images. So, please everyone, dance like there is no tomorrow. A huge Texas thanks goes out to all you dancers. <{B^) Bill Barber **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:32:13 2009 Received: (qmail 18991 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:32:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:32:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC2A1C40F40 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA81144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D231E34AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4539A34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LUjjQ-000238-Kv for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:32:04 +0000 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:32:03 -0000 Message-ID: <29197C62EC8C40C496EB0F0E1AE7F4EE@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmG2tmwdR0aT2DOSju7zX3ovBHMvgAAlqKQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090203-1, 03/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:32:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b4fd158111869477228 Keep the aol address for incoming mail, Bill, use googlemail for the outgoing stuff, but give your aol address as the return address. I'll send you an offlist message using that approach so that you can see what it looks like - in my case I use google mail when I am away from my office, but give the usual piers at hemy dot org as the return address. Who knows, you may get to like it enouh to ditch aol! Piers -----Original Message----- From: NSURIT@aol.com [mailto:NSURIT@aol.com] Sent: 04 February 2009 15:11 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! Some of us are slower learners than others. It is a little like an old pair of shoes . . . comfortable. I've had this email address for close to 25 years. It would be like a divorce. Any other suggestions? Bill Barber In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:38:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Yes, get rid of AOL. **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:33:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b55b143971234514069 I'm hoping to make life easier. Perhaps I'll send AOL a nastygram. Please, a show of hands for all those who think that will help. Bill Barber In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, Jim.Timpe@Fluke.com writes: Maybe a trial separation. You could keep the AWOL for personal and get a second address just for list activities. **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:34:26 2009 Received: (qmail 19866 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:34:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:34:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91361C40F57 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B5244004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F6C19E95C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:33:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD0419E986 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:33:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k57so1981244rnd.13 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:33:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.37.20 with SMTP id k20mr2689748ank.5.1233761630861; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:33:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4989AFE1.4080809@spokeandsprocket.com> References: <4989AFE1.4080809@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:33:50 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a45a1aff0bf4caa6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:34:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b582120002336821329 > > I have always wanted to do the ride, but mid July is the high season at > my shop, so it is real tough to get away for a week. > Jim, two questions: 1. Do you ship parts? 2. On shipped parts, are you relatively competitive in price? I need to buy a half-dozen tires/tubes and possibly two new wheels. Oh, and new cables. Also, I'm interested in something like a flex-stem to help relieve my wrists. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:39:05 2009 Received: (qmail 30439 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:39:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3991C40F40 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A986244004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9918234AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:38:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9B834AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:38:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LUjq4-0004l8-I7 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:38:56 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:38:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:39:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b699190985368819438 Maybe this link will help you out: http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2008/05/remove-aol-email-footer-advertising.html Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:22:41 EST, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: >Anybody have any ideas how I can get this crap off the bottom of my emails? > > >In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:18:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, >NSURIT@aol.com writes: > >Hope you do and share some of your images. As do you, I really like his >work. The alligators and water moccasins aren't a big deal . . . not sure >which ones are the meanest. Bill Barber >**************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. >(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http: >//ad.doubleclick. >net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > > >**************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. >(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. >net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 16:46:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8984 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 15:46:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 15:46:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132551C40F35 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D315644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B423234AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:46:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D7E34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:46:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.63]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 66108 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2009 15:46:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: N09fYC8VM1mqmPVyp7MdzafCgIQytQOauvyfz95qRQwdOC6Ycx6v7t2cjWrZJYoFOIVrX8Yc1tIzJYG7aGBSwfEb94Y.IGT6a056AhuTKpXQC6wNf4X50_Dg_i0EAASoFbJKtbIi7Eonfu1CTiG3KBFED96Er3B8.HEGY_BqeHYIMjNv90KByvauAd0bKOWGBCDzH8paC9rODMLsSLlMjJ8NG54c8ibZpK9YmllKLJdQ8e5604qNjCWIOTf7Bw-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:46:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 16:46:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989b861243311823421471 This is way OT but I thought I would share. The article actually mentions the camera type, however I believe "1D" might be an error. Was there a C*non 1d MK2? http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_035021334.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:06:31 2009 Received: (qmail 27031 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:06:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:06:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B660B1C40F51 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586C444004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A33A34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40DB34AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:06:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cdd.46d8e053 (29678) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:06:09 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:06:03 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Test for removal of footer advertising X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:06:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989bd07218741470116606 Lets see if this worked. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:12:41 2009 Received: (qmail 18534 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:12:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786231C40F3F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C580F44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3FD19EBF9 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B56E19EBF7 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LUkMb-0007XV-K6 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:12:33 +0000 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LUkMa-0003Ol-VE for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:12:33 +0000 Message-ID: <4989BE7F.60005@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:12:47 +0000 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Test for removal of footer advertising X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:12:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989be7975981702588592 NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Lets see if this worked. Bill Barber YeeeHaaaah! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:20:39 2009 Received: (qmail 19618 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:20:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:20:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3781C40F51 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4328244004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2737A34AC001 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:20:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9269134AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:20:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-gx0-f20.google.com (mail-gx0-f20.google.com [209.85.217.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk13 with SMTP id 13so2178608gxk.14 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:20:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.229.8 with SMTP id b8mr1732963anh.12.1233764432956; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:20:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:20:32 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c774a5c5710b5588 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Test for removal of footer advertising X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:20:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989c05739071869477228 > > Lets see if this worked. Bill Barber > I miss the Dell advertisements. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:24:12 2009 Received: (qmail 28016 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:24:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:24:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CE41C40F63 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DD144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3130034AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD61334AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2564671wfd.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:24:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.135.13 with SMTP id i13mr2338138wfd.8.1233764645533; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:24:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:24:05 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040824t52706026m4bf8c9bf8d0bef2d@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:24:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989c12c277971023412894 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Richard Lovison wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to >> include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last >> weekend: >> >> http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html >> >> (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) > > I'm always sucked in by sunrises so "dawn's early light" was a favorite > along with the eagle shot 1313152 and the doorway shot 1312057. > > Are those tennis shoes on Ken? In the snow? You wouldn't last four hours > out here in a New England winter. ;) Thanks for your comments, Richard. We were enjoying the warmest temps of the year at the point at which I photographed Ken (mid 40s). I was sweating into my Columbia boots by that time. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:25:00 2009 Received: (qmail 17856 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:24:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8B21C40F58 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C63644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF9534AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FCA34AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2565001wfd.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:24:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr861316wfa.154.1233764692597; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:24:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:24:52 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040824o563a6c0do825fe8559eff0e88@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:25:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989c15c50989117217770 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I like eagles, but Loose Board is Fabulous! > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com Thanks Bob! Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:30:26 2009 Received: (qmail 3613 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:30:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:30:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05F41C40F45 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B6C44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D27C3610004 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF663610006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2567149wfd.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.148.19 with SMTP id v19mr330922wfd.16.1233765020023; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:30:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:19 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:30:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989c2a2101831993019900 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > ***1979 - awesome shot. Took my breath away. That would make a > magnificent poster. > Everything about it is perfect, from that irregular curl of the lower > leading primary feather to the position of the feet and the angle of > the head. > It's hard to imagine a better in-flight shot. Sell it. Thanks AF. It prints reasonably well up to letter size. Doesn't really require up-rezzing despite significant cropping to get something like a composition. 13x19 is probably a different story. I was glad that a bit of the horizontal clouds were perceptible to break of the uniform blue of the sky a bit, since there's still so much of it. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:45:36 2009 Received: (qmail 22304 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:45:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD931C40F38 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0C744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACBD19EDF3 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:45:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC2219EDC9 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:45:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:45:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 26so2573236wfd.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:45:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.15.14 with SMTP id s14mr3001416wfi.284.1233765923080; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:45:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:45:23 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:45:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989c63055021234514069 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I thought you were doing a job on us to lower our expectations but > twarn't necessary. I'm also a sucker for sunrise and sunset so Dawn's > Early Light hits me just right. I also thought you said or implied that > you didn't get any good eagle shots. No flies on them babies either. Thanks Chuck. I was disappointed at how many shots were poor, so perhaps it was that speaking. There is a sequence of a young bird in the air that I really love for its antics, but every frame is slightly out of focus. > I do like the old store front but not with your reflection in it. It > changes the entire mood of the shot from something old to something > right now. I'm not sure how to get rid of it. Maybe you should have > stepped to the right a bit. The close-up worked better. The self-portrait is not my favorite, but since I included a photo of Ken, I thought I'd include myself as a joke. You might like the alternative which is now on my homepage better: http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > The grain elevator(?) is an interesting architectural study in gray/blue > but the criss-crossing wires just don't belong. Ken showed me his shot on the LCD and I knew that I'd been whiffed. Rather than imitate his right there, I figured I'd sneak back to that town sometime and copy him. My shot is one of my classic attempts to try to work too many things at once. I figured I show post it anyway and take my lumps. I got lucky enough on a couple of the eagles. Ken also tried to show my his photos on the back on his OM-3Ti, but apparently only he is able to see those. > I do like the old house > and the old barn and also the house and barn on the hill top. Nathan > would probably go berserk but if it were my image I'd have cloned out > the power poles. You're a lot like my older brother, who can't stand electric lines and poles in photos. I like them -- so there! Just say NO to cloning. > Nice job. Much better than I usually get on a day's outing. And I > think I've only ever seen two eagles in the wild in my entire life. But > I'm highly competitive in gator and water moccasin sightings. :-) OK, you're on. I want to see gators! Have a great vacation and don't lose any fingers and toes. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 17:48:50 2009 Received: (qmail 4974 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 16:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 16:48:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D151C40515 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB87B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA30D19EE09 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCFA19EDF3 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so935844ywa.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:48:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.50.6 with SMTP id x6mr582863wfx.218.1233766122297; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:48:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:48:42 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040848l6671ceb5y83d164b54b9a80b5@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 17:48:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989c6f173081499373980 No, it was balmy in the 40s. It was -3 this morning, but we're supposed to be back up into the 40s in a day or two. We'll most likely lose most of the snow that's on the ground right now. Thanks for looking. Joel W. On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > love the shots of the abandoned store - and it looks like it was > freezing out there... > > nico. > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found > herein!) > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:12:36 2009 Received: (qmail 25443 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:12:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:12:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB681C4050A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B02C44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A6034AC041 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CA534AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so942180anc.35 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:12:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr4957592and.134.1233767546231; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:12:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:12:26 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a10ef07b0aa336bb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:12:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989cc84122302070262475 > > Ken also tried to show my his photos on the back on his OM-3Ti, but > apparently only he is able to see those. > It has the new Delitescent display. AG (obfuscated) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:32:08 2009 Received: (qmail 11116 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:32:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:32:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655111C40546 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:32:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA5644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:31:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A1F34AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:31:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4634AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:31:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so948927yxi.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:31:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.153.8 with SMTP id a8mr3028463wfe.15.1233768715338; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:31:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <95546798-3ADC-438A-B0B0-8878A3C39FFB@ucr.edu> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <95546798-3ADC-438A-B0B0-8878A3C39FFB@ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:31:55 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040931k3485a8acgdcc1bb81ff16114e@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:32:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989d118326109347015869 On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to >> include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last >> weekend: >> >> http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html >> >> (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found >> herein!) >> >> Joel W. > > Loose boards caught my eye--lots of texture, but it also looks like > it's a tad too sharp, crackly, dare I say? Maybe it's a killer lens > you used, or the light/texture really is that crackly fragile looking. > Also, it looks level, vertically, but at the same time looks like it's > leaning to the left. Could definitely be over-sharpened, or perhaps the file is a bit too compressed. I did my normal stuff in PS which includes some initial sharpening, but I just let Jalbum crunch the images this time in processing the web page. They looked OK on my CRT monitor at home but are crunchier on my LCD at work. But if you don't know whether it's sharpening or a sharp lens, I'll settle for that, as the 14-54 is no slouch. Also, thanks for the comment about the lines. I'll think some more about that. I know I was struggling with the decision as to what to line it up with when I was composiing the image and what you're seeing is the decision I made while shooting rather than later in PS. > And I finally get to see Ken! Looks *nothing* like the imaginary AG > persona I had in mind, but that's how it always is, isn't it? He's a big, tall guy, likes hot food, and is a good friend. I enjoy every minute I can spend with him. We're both a lot more serious when we're together than when we're online. Ken is the guy I think of when I recall Doris' frequent admonition that the most important piece of equipment in photography is the big chip between your shoulders. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:34:18 2009 Received: (qmail 2726 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:34:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC201C40F64 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FDE44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:34:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C4D34AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:34:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E859134AC001 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so949514yxi.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.107.1 with SMTP id f1mr3024431wfc.140.1233768848850; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:34:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:34:08 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040934m457053eexd591c7a56f90a5d7@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:34:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989d19a124829347015869 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Timpe, Jim wrote: >>>Excellent eagle shots. Good job on the store front. I don't recall > seeing that broken board. AG > > That's because Joel popped it loose after you had moved on...... > Jim Actually, I probably would have nailed it back in place if I'd had my tools! Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:36:44 2009 Received: (qmail 23684 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:36:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:36:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4401C40F54 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED244004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08AB19F0AC for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:36:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D50919F09F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:36:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so949428anc.35 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:36:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.42.6 with SMTP id u6mr3025930wfj.121.1233768995136; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:36:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:36:35 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040936u9b7626co360c567d7483d34f@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:36:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989d22c214631946193717 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> That's because Joel popped it loose after you had moved on...... >> Jim >> > > > That explains that sly look he had. I thought he was up to something. > > AG That's just how I look when you chimp your OM-4T. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:49:40 2009 Received: (qmail 12167 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:49:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956D21C40F3B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7C444004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987A534AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:49:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A98734AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:49:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 3so953526yxi.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:49:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.185.21 with SMTP id i21mr1300016wff.311.1233769771095; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:49:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:49:30 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040949u2d79e71q95a9b03f1ed99c34@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:49:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989d534316174673671140 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:46 AM, AS wrote: > > This is way OT but I thought I would share. The article actually mentions the camera type, however I believe "1D" might be an error. Was there a C*non 1d MK2? > > http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_035021334.html The 1DMkII is actually kind of interesting in that it had higher MP (8) than the original 1D and still holds its value, being full frame and all. KEH wants $1200 for body only, whereas the 5 MP 1D is half that. I wonder what else its got that it competes at the price point of used 5Ds. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:53:37 2009 Received: (qmail 12234 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:53:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:53:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFD2434029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62A5440050 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B711F19F0E9 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A06619F176 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so15870wfg.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr3034856wfb.29.1233770007166; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:53:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:53:27 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902040953j5c78b728y55d564e7700f185d@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:53:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989d62186082336821329 Too many hobbies already ... Joel (1975 Fuji 10-speed) W. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > Anyone? > > Anybody interested in exploring the concept of how flat Iowa is on a >> peddly-bike? This summer is another annual installment of RAGBRAI. (google >> is a wonderful tool here). I am planning on biking the entire week. >> Anybody interested in coming along? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 18:57:35 2009 Received: (qmail 30095 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 17:57:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 17:57:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB0A1C40F55 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7480544004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D7219F179 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFD819F176 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.harbornet.com (smtp2.harbornet.com [199.2.132.27]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (69-10-198-38.localaccess.com [69.10.198.38]) by smtp2.harbornet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A22C380424 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:41:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4989D6D8.4010807@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:56:40 -0800 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4989AFE1.4080809@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Iowa is flat - yeah right. The RAGBRAI challenge. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 18:57:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989d70f154201234514069 1. Yes we do. 2. I would say yes for the most part, but it does depend on what you need.. With what you are looking for we should be able to do ok for you. Ken Norton wrote: > Jim, two questions: > 1. Do you ship parts? > 2. On shipped parts, are you relatively competitive in price? > > I need to buy a half-dozen tires/tubes and possibly two new wheels. Oh, and > new cables. Also, I'm interested in something like a flex-stem to help > relieve my wrists. > > AG > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 19:23:16 2009 Received: (qmail 24505 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 18:23:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 18:23:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4361C40F54 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A066744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:23:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8755219F2BD for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:23:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A1A19F2B3 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so962654anc.35 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.105.9 with SMTP id d9mr1782985anc.142.1233771787900; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:23:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902040936u9b7626co360c567d7483d34f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902040936u9b7626co360c567d7483d34f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:23:07 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a4782517c08dc377 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 19:23:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989dd1457891234514069 > > That's just how I look when you chimp your OM-4T. > I was NOT chimping. I was examining the leatherette on the back of the camera. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 19:31:17 2009 Received: (qmail 13469 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 18:31:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 18:31:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4C81C40F4A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8AF44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931C934AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303C43610006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090204183055.KZMH5582.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:30:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> Message-Id: <46FBEEA0-5B56-49F7-A780-760A6EC7251D@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:30:53 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 19:31:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989def54382046811720 One man's blabbermouth is another man's journalist. I think your stuff is journalism in a fine old sense of the world. You aren't preaching. You aren't telling us how to react, or what it all means to us and the world; you're presenting your particular point of view, along with cogent, brief observations. WE make of them what we will. Keep it up. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Why, thanks, Bob, but that's just my style because I'm a > blabbermouth... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 20:59:13 2009 Received: (qmail 4058 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 19:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 19:59:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0A01C407EC for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C96344004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA5A3610004 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ED534AC02A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:58:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 9 days 04:59:48 ago / 195.8.64.6 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 187.red-79-147-168.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([79.147.168.187]:57121 helo=[192.168.1.33]) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LUnte-0007IS-HW (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:58:54 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902040949u2d79e71q95a9b03f1ed99c34@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:58:53 +0100 References: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e908c1f0902040949u2d79e71q95a9b03f1ed99c34@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 20:59:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989f391298291035110158 I used a 1D Mark II as my primary camera for 2 years (2005-2007). It is indeed 8 MP but not full-frame. Its sensor has a factor of 1.3. $1200 is less than a third of what it cost new, so it did certainly drop in value. But it is still perfectly usable. Very rugged, very heavy, very weatherproof (I tested that in pouring Amsterdam rain on several occasions), a battery that lasts forever even in freezing weather etc. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:46 AM, AS wrote: >> >> This is way OT but I thought I would share. The article actually >> mentions the camera type, however I believe "1D" might be an error. >> Was there a C*non 1d MK2? >> >> http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_035021334.html > > The 1DMkII is actually kind of interesting in that it had higher MP > (8) than the original 1D and still holds its value, being full frame > and all. KEH wants $1200 for body only, whereas the 5 MP 1D is half > that. I wonder what else its got that it competes at the price point > of used 5Ds. > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 21:46:53 2009 Received: (qmail 22745 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 20:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:46:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C801C40F45 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB5844004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:46:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E6F19F8F4 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:46:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9D419F8D5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:46:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3216 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 20:46:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:46:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <8CD3E662-3EE6-44DF-848E-1CD4EA9FFFF1@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:46:26 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 21:46:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989febd47311073733319 "A certified construction teacher, he has learned not to try to save the chain saw." However, he hasn't learned not to sit on the branch he's cutting off! Good grief. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 2:46 AM, AS wrote: > This is way OT but I thought I would share. The article actually > mentions the camera type, however I believe "1D" might be an error. > Was there a C*non 1d MK2? > > http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_035021334.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 21:48:23 2009 Received: (qmail 1278 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 20:48:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:48:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415301C4048A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718C044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623A034AC041 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A3D34AC03E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so87105wfg.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr3099544wfh.31.1233780486170; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e908c1f0902040949u2d79e71q95a9b03f1ed99c34@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:48:06 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902041248h6d67461r74fe458f3a475e67@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 21:48:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989ff17237741234514069 Oops, thanks for the correction. Don't know what I was thinking, but then I have trouble keeping my own gear straight sometimes. Joel W. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I used a 1D Mark II as my primary camera for 2 years (2005-2007). It > is indeed 8 MP but not full-frame. Its sensor has a factor of 1.3. > $1200 is less than a third of what it cost new, so it did certainly > drop in value. But it is still perfectly usable. Very rugged, very > heavy, very weatherproof (I tested that in pouring Amsterdam rain on > several occasions), a battery that lasts forever even in freezing > weather etc. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:46 AM, AS wrote: >>> >>> This is way OT but I thought I would share. The article actually >>> mentions the camera type, however I believe "1D" might be an error. >>> Was there a C*non 1d MK2? >>> >>> http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_035021334.html >> >> The 1DMkII is actually kind of interesting in that it had higher MP >> (8) than the original 1D and still holds its value, being full frame >> and all. KEH wants $1200 for body only, whereas the 5 MP 1D is half >> that. I wonder what else its got that it competes at the price point >> of used 5Ds. >> >> Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 21:49:59 2009 Received: (qmail 6112 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 20:49:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:49:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A9A1C40F46 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D61044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DC134AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E72834AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3350 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 20:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:48:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:48:33 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 21:49:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4989ff7718101470116606 Why crop - I wouldn't much. I like all that blue and yes, the light band of cloud grounds it. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 3:30 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > It prints reasonably well up to letter size. Doesn't > really require up-rezzing despite significant cropping to get > something like a composition. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 21:52:34 2009 Received: (qmail 1114 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 20:52:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:52:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C141C40F4E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAB044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743C819F8F5 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:51:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE34C1CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:51:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3526 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 20:51:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:51:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e908c1f0902040949u2d79e71q95a9b03f1ed99c34@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <48A97F68-ADC0-4723-B1CC-1A2A5820DDBE@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:51:46 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 21:52:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a0012256611234514069 Yup - 1D* = 1.3x. 1Ds* = full frame. Confusing. I think the only other 1.3x factor camera is the Leica M8 Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 6:58 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I used a 1D Mark II as my primary camera for 2 years (2005-2007). It > is indeed 8 MP but not full-frame. Its sensor has a factor of 1.3. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 21:57:37 2009 Received: (qmail 8660 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 20:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:57:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC31C40F38 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B08A44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7076134AC032 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:57:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1AD34AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:57:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1001857anc.35 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:57:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr955942wfa.154.1233781049050; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:57:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:57:29 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 21:57:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a01418803675314703 I won't crop more, but what you are seeing is cropped from the original capture. Joel W. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Why crop - I wouldn't much. I like all that blue and yes, the light > band of cloud grounds it. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/02/2009, at 3:30 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> It prints reasonably well up to letter size. Doesn't >> really require up-rezzing despite significant cropping to get >> something like a composition. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 21:58:19 2009 Received: (qmail 29328 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 20:58:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 20:58:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE041C4050A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D8744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663E11CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:58:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA76519F937 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:58:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:58:07 +0100 Received: from [172.20.200.1] (unknown [172.20.200.1]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id DC8D55D04 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:58:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498A015C.5040303@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:58:04 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <46FBEEA0-5B56-49F7-A780-760A6EC7251D@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46FBEEA0-5B56-49F7-A780-760A6EC7251D@roadrunner.com> Subject: [OM] Mac Aperture and dual monitors - Jan or anyone else X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 21:58:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a016b239431993019900 Hi For using aperture I have a dell 24" display for main and a HP 20" for looking at the photos full screen, however I see a colour shift from one to the other, I can adjust the HP while using aperture however when I leave aperture it looks totally false. I found that this was mentioned on forums in the past the solution then was to use the colour profile of the second display - most were using laptops so it was not a problem making the external the main display. It seems that macpro can't handle two seperate monitor profiles in apps like aperture (I believe its the same in lightroom). I have tried having the monitors connected to two seperate cards 7300GT and nvidia 3870 and both on the 3870 but that makes no difference so does anyone else have this problem or better still had the problem and found a fix -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:01:15 2009 Received: (qmail 18119 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:01:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15C21C40F45 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B00844004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:01:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D40834AC034 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:01:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A377134AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:01:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:01:07 +0100 Received: from [172.20.200.1] (unknown [172.20.200.1]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 41F315D04 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:01:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498A0210.40902@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:01:04 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:01:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a021b42521234514069 I like using the pictures I take as a diary, though mine are concentrated on the kids and family life, I try and keep them interesting. http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/7009141_k2AJN#467077559_t2kYM-A-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:07:19 2009 Received: (qmail 20940 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:07:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A5F1C40F75 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275C744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F4D1CD49D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD3A1CD48F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5591 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2009 21:06:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:06:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:06:29 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:07:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a038730681234514069 Of course - idiot me. If you uprez in PS, remember the 10% rule - increase in 10% steps. I love how well that works. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 7:57 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > I won't crop more, but what you are seeing is cropped from the > original capture. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:08:05 2009 Received: (qmail 9812 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:08:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3F11C40F58 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C171B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27661CD49D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255681CD49C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:06:54 +0100 Received: from [172.20.200.1] (unknown [172.20.200.1]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id D13725D04 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:06:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:06:49 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:08:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a03b5304517927319144 I tried capturing the little sparklies you sometimes get on the snow like you see on sand, but even bracketing didn't make it easy, here is one of the best http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/6716762_L89RL#467524777_hACB5-A-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:13:56 2009 Received: (qmail 12813 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:13:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EF91C40F51 for ; 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Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:13:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <27092016-1B6A-4443-85DD-8635F546446F@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:13:47 -0800 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:13:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a051450117927319144 On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Ian W wrote: > I tried capturing the little sparklies you sometimes get on the snow > like you see on sand, but even bracketing didn't make it easy, here is > one of the best > > http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/6716762_L89RL#467524777_hACB5-A-LB That's very pretty! Late afternoon? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:29:34 2009 Received: (qmail 32139 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:29:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BEE1C40E83 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB00344004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E69134AC003 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:29:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F081834AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:29:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:29:29 +0100 Received: from ians-mac-pro.local (unknown [172.20.200.2]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D1485D04 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:29:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498A08B3.5060105@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:29:23 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> <27092016-1B6A-4443-85DD-8635F546446F@ucr.edu> In-Reply-To: <27092016-1B6A-4443-85DD-8635F546446F@ucr.edu> Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:29:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a08be218551234514069 Thanks, yes it was just before it got dark. I just couldn't capture what I was seeing though only if I really overdid the processing could I get somewhere close http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/6716762_L89RL#467694771_F5MTv > > That's very pretty! Late afternoon? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:39:17 2009 Received: (qmail 13856 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:39:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:39:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544501C4050B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA9544004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2B91CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6CA1CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A22461590 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <1BBC0B26-2CA8-470B-8B05-3665D028E614@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4989556A.3010004@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:39:09 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> <4989556A.3010004@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:39:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a0b05196311257536491 That must be because you go to bed so much later than I do, Moose. I am normally in bed by 2200, but then I do wake at 0530 ... Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 08:44, Moose wrote: > Chris Barker wrote: >> Well at 0630 it made me laugh! :-) >> > > If I laugh at that hour, it's in a dream. :-) > > A. Night Moose > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:40:00 2009 Received: (qmail 4573 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:40:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741281C407EC for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC0B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D051CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5E61CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD09461640 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:58:46 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:39:50 +0000 References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:40:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a0b30318201499373980 That's pretty successful, Ian. Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 21:06, Ian W wrote: > I tried capturing the little sparklies you sometimes get on the snow > like you see on sand, but even bracketing didn't make it easy, here is > one of the best > > http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/6716762_L89RL#467524777_hACB5-A-LB > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:53:44 2009 Received: (qmail 16262 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:53:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:53:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D682E1C40546 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEDE44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AE334AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:53:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE12234AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:53:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE14A461515 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:12:30 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:53:33 +0000 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:53:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a0e6819171234514069 Hoi, Piers, don't *you* start letting your language slip to cr*ppy Friends-speak (among other rubbish American comedy programmes) :-). Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 12:18, Piers Hemy wrote: > Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go > figure, as I > believe one says. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 22:55:12 2009 Received: (qmail 3209 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 21:55:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 21:55:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758B81C40F3D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245F344004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6CC1CD494 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:55:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25BC1CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:55:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF96461640 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:14:01 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:55:04 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Test for removal of footer advertising X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 22:55:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a0ec056211023412894 Well done, Bill. Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 16:06, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Lets see if this worked. Bill Barber > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 23:08:26 2009 Received: (qmail 27071 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 22:08:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 22:08:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B111C40F35 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F4B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F9034AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:08:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A9634AC034 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:08:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so119445wfg.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:08:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.172.12 with SMTP id u12mr3132920wfe.132.1233785296920; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:08:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:08:16 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 23:08:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a11da72931234514069 I'd like to give that a try. Bicubic I presume? I've lately just relied on the FM plug-in SI-Pro. But I think it actually works sort of along the same principle. I like SI-Pro for downsizing quite well -- convenient to configure various ways. Joel W. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Of course - idiot me. > If you uprez in PS, remember the 10% rule - increase in 10% steps. I > love how well that works. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/02/2009, at 7:57 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> I won't crop more, but what you are seeing is cropped from the >> original capture. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 23:36:57 2009 Received: (qmail 27190 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 22:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 22:36:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A5C1C40F57 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F049B44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02EC34AC03E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:36:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4198834AC034 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:36:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.123]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n14Malsx017572 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:36:48 +1100 Message-Id: <200902042236.n14Malsx017572@mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:36:47 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:36:47 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 23:36:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a1889114142046811720 > NSURIT wrote: > > I'm hoping to make life easier. Perhaps I'll send AOL a nastygram. > Please, > a show of hands for all those who think that will help. Bill Barber > Perhaps you can pay aol more to get email without the advertising ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Feb 4 23:55:07 2009 Received: (qmail 31007 invoked by uid 0); 4 Feb 2009 22:55:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Feb 2009 22:55:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97561C40F46 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B975D44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9547C34AC029 for ; 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Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:54:55 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:54:55 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Feb 4 23:55:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a1ccb96163675314703 > Joel Wilcox <> wrote: > > sharpening, but I just let Jalbum crunch the images this time in > processing the web page. > I've noticed Jalbum tends to do that by default, seems particularly bad if the image is a bit noisy. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:15:50 2009 Received: (qmail 8025 invoked by uid 0); 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Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n150Fd4D025800 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:15:39 +1100 Message-Id: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:15:38 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:15:38 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:15:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a2fb638025368819438 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > "A certified construction teacher, he has learned not to try to save > the chain saw." > However, he hasn't learned not to sit on the branch he's cutting off! > Good grief. Looks like the other beams that he had already cut off might have extended into the other part of the roof. He probably *assumed* (not a good idea !) that all of the beams were the same. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:17:20 2009 Received: (qmail 13575 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:17:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:17:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE6C1C40F46 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5716E44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4815034AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3B83610006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:17:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28367 invoked by uid 502); 5 Feb 2009 00:17:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.198.233) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 00:17:07 -0000 Message-ID: <498A2FFC.4020806@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:17:00 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:17:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a300f96121499373980 Joel Wilcox wrote: > I'd like to give that a try. Bicubic I presume? > > I've lately just relied on the FM plug-in SI-Pro. But I think it actually works sort of along the same principle. I like SI-Pro for downsizing quite well -- convenient to configure various ways. > Indeed, that's what the "SI" stands for, Step Interpolation. I believe SI-Pro II, which I use, does a better job than I can do with a lot of xx% at a time steps. At least that's what I found with the original SI_Pro, and II is better. It's excellent for down-sampling, but I prefer the results with IntelliSharpen II at display size to doing sharpening as part of down-sampling. It's also the best up-rez app I've tried for general use. For printing, Qimage does a better up-rez job - quite amazing, really. Anyone who isn't using tools like SI-Pro II, IntelliSharpen II, PTLens and NeatImage or equivalent plug-ins from other makers is wasting a lot of time. They do a better job than I can do with PS's built-in tools, and in much less time. The first three, especially, are so inexpensive it seems nuts to me not to use them. I have them built into Actions with my own settings. Down-sizing to my standard display sizes, 840H or 760V, flattening layers, 16=>8 bit and open save dialog for JPG are all in single Actions. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:22:00 2009 Received: (qmail 10276 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:21:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FDD1C40F55 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF6544004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7831234AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:21:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C570634AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:21:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n150Lp2c022881 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:21:51 +1100 Message-Id: <200902050021.n150Lp2c022881@mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:21:51 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:21:51 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:22:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a3128134311946193717 > Ian W <> wrote: > > I tried capturing the little sparklies you sometimes get on the snow > like you see on sand, but even bracketing didn't make it easy, here is > one of the best > > http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/6716762_L89RL#467524777_hACB5-A > -LB > -- You got the sparkles ok, funny they actually look like little square donuts ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:27:33 2009 Received: (qmail 25246 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:27:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:27:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F71C40F48 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79FD44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A831C34AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D27034AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so174909wfg.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr2813589wfq.229.1233793645163; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498A2FFC.4020806@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> <498A2FFC.4020806@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:27:25 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902041627y6d0a7246v8ecbd52c7f80fd6f@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:27:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a327566991823421471 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Moose wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> I'd like to give that a try. Bicubic I presume? >> >> I've lately just relied on the FM plug-in SI-Pro. But I think it actually works sort of along the same principle. I like SI-Pro for downsizing quite well -- convenient to configure various ways. >> > > Indeed, that's what the "SI" stands for, Step Interpolation. I believe > SI-Pro II, which I use, does a better job than I can do with a lot of > xx% at a time steps. At least that's what I found with the original > SI_Pro, and II is better. > > It's excellent for down-sampling, but I prefer the results with > IntelliSharpen II at display size to doing sharpening as part of > down-sampling. It's also the best up-rez app I've tried for general use. > For printing, Qimage does a better up-rez job - quite amazing, really. > > Anyone who isn't using tools like SI-Pro II, IntelliSharpen II, PTLens > and NeatImage or equivalent plug-ins from other makers is wasting a lot > of time. They do a better job than I can do with PS's built-in tools, > and in much less time. The first three, especially, are so inexpensive > it seems nuts to me not to use them. > > I have them built into Actions with my own settings. Down-sizing to my > standard display sizes, 840H or 760V, flattening layers, 16=>8 bit and > open save dialog for JPG are all in single Actions. > > Moose I've saved your note, Moose. Thanks! Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:35:46 2009 Received: (qmail 3880 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:35:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDCE1C40F5B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E619D44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41031CD486 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:35:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB221CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:35:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so2280289rvb.6 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.63.20 with SMTP id q20mr2144920rvk.58.1233794138471; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm2169905rvb.1.2009.02.04.16.35.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:35:38 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> References: <684B4909-E389-4583-A8AF-F696E1B36D19@threeshoes.net> <49875529.4030309@chucknorcutt.com> <4987DC2B.50403@gmail.com> <1F658D91-E8F6-4513-A8C3-844E1C738455@threeshoes.net> <4989132A.9020508@gmail.com> <498A0369.20303@picturepedia.org> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:35:21 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:35:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a3462296891342116753 nice! tried a few times myself, and failed miserably each and every one of them. nico. On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Ian W wrote: I tried capturing the little sparklies you sometimes get on the snow like you see on sand, but even bracketing didn't make it easy, here is one of the best http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/ 6716762_L89RL#467524777_hACB5-A-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:37:04 2009 Received: (qmail 5764 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:37:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE13C1C40F5C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D5444004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342171CD487 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:36:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B371CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:36:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.249]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2798117rvb.50 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.13.13 with SMTP id q13mr1371893rvi.163.1233794218339; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm7714709rvb.5.2009.02.04.16.36.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:57 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:36:41 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:37:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a34b0127801499373980 but whyyy... i learned english (or at the very least greatly improved it) through "friends"! :( nico. On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Hoi, Piers, don't *you* start letting your language slip to cr*ppy Friends-speak (among other rubbish American comedy programmes) :-). Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 12:18, Piers Hemy wrote: > Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go > figure, as I > believe one says. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:52:22 2009 Received: (qmail 9842 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:52:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:52:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5A1C40F52 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322A744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C9F1CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8027A1CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mwalters@rogers.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp115.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp115.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.231]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 69226 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 00:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (mwalters@99.241.188.157 with plain) by smtp115.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:52:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 2AFyfR0VM1l5GbAWvKzz3HZrOPnF.lFTGTAnna2e4mqW4VxRMskkbYsZUuoLDT9ZoA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:52:01 -0500 From: Martin Walters User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:52:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a38467601744846740 Richard: Congratulations - great photo(s). Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well worth a visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else around. At the time there seemed to be a lot of construction going on. I think the sports facility was nearing completion. Martin Richard Lovison wrote: > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) > > Richard -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 01:53:49 2009 Received: (qmail 16302 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 00:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 00:53:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4F21C407EC for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A8F44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B4034AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:53:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFED34AC001 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:53:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.237]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n150rfER013866 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:53:41 +1100 Message-Id: <200902050053.n150rfER013866@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:53:41 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:53:41 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 01:53:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a389d111951073733319 > Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > > > "A certified construction teacher, he has learned not to try to save > > the chain saw." > > However, he hasn't learned not to sit on the branch he's cutting off! > > Good grief. > > Looks like the other beams that he had already cut off might have > extended into the other part of the roof. He probably *assumed* (not a > good idea !) that all of the beams were the same. > Thinking about it a bit more, that reason explains why the chain was jamming - he should have realised that ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 02:01:10 2009 Received: (qmail 19443 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 01:01:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 01:01:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED001C4030D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A92144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B891CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:01:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB0F1CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:01:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.157]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so1044857ywa.80 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:01:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.180.20 with SMTP id c20mr3227430wff.129.1233795662135; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:01:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200902042254.n14Mstut031659@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200902042254.n14Mstut031659@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:01:02 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902041701m132c890bv47c620742ebb8f02@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 02:01:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a3a5634349117217770 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: >> Joel Wilcox <> wrote: >> >> sharpening, but I just let Jalbum crunch the images this time in >> processing the web page. >> > > I've noticed Jalbum tends to do that by default, seems particularly bad if the image is a bit noisy. > > ...Wayne By default the amount of sharpening is a bit harrowing too. In the past I have tended to make Jalbum use the images as I originally sized and sharpened them, and that was fine. Next time I'll probably just go back to that. Of course, it's impossible to tell what people are looking at. The images look fine on my monitor at home, which is one of the last CRTs I could find and on which color is really well-behaved, easily profiled, and matches my print output nicely. The LCD at work is terribly difficult to manage color on and there are halos in a number of places. I know which monitor I'd like to believe, but I don't know which one is really right! Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 02:11:32 2009 Received: (qmail 27921 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 01:11:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 01:11:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1042F1C40F3D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456BC440051 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333FE3610004 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:11:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C045934AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:11:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922AB73099D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:18:32 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049ac909) id dm0201.4981cddc.77e9d8 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:11:25 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jijy94Z7bRAIAAAAB,63da40218eab28facd86140918c7d71e Message-ID: <498A3CC7.9040708@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:11:35 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 02:11:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a3cc4150011342116753 NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > As well, they should. Lovely work. Bill Barber Thanks Bill. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 02:12:51 2009 Received: (qmail 19662 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 01:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 01:12:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7611C40F57 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65EE44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82BE34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:12:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949D534AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:12:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BF5752308 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:22:33 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049ac909) id dm0201.4981cddc.77f552 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:12:45 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jij0NzVib5gIAAAAB,efc81c69d2bd2c6590357630b6a8e9f1 Message-ID: <498A3D17.70201@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:12:55 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 02:12:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a3d13319789117217770 Bob Whitmire wrote: > I'd reverse the order there, but that's a small thing. Congrats! > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com Thanks Bob. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 02:24:59 2009 Received: (qmail 10901 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 01:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 01:24:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0FD1C40F3B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB5044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44FF1CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F871CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E8F752570 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:34:40 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049ac909) id dm0202.4981cde5.778c52 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:24:51 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jij/j9qyZ0QIAAAAB,6f49a79420cedcb1fd8cefbd0a9a11ac Message-ID: <498A3FED.5010109@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:25:01 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 02:24:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a3feb14942046811720 Martin Walters wrote: > Richard: > Congratulations - great photo(s). > > Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable > setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well worth a > visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went > down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else around. > > At the time there seemed to be a lot of construction going on. I think > the sports facility was nearing completion. Martin, Thank you. Berkshire School is a wonderful institution... I hope those wealthy enough to attend appreciate its many offerings. When you were there in June they were still working on the renovation of Berkshire Hall and the construction of the Athletic Center. Both are beautiful buildings in their completion. My wife has worked there for a little over 3 years as Director of Stewardship. Overall I feel she's happier there than at Simon's Rock College, her last place of employment. She couldn't have a more beautiful place to work as the surroundings are quite picturesque and the co-workers in her office seem like very nice people. Her office doesn't even feel like a conventional office -- more like an extension of home. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 02:31:38 2009 Received: (qmail 17607 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 01:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 01:31:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ADE1C40F4D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E0A44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A97434AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:31:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3117A34AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:31:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mwalters@rogers.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.206]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 17:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 81663 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 01:31:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (mwalters@99.241.188.157 with plain) by smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 01:31:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: DNjrjkYVM1kSkp8tTMLmk6Hv5PgmgS4325t2I6uNHG1tiqMm._DyGfsf1SMace06hA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <498A416F.80908@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:31:27 -0500 From: Martin Walters User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498A3FED.5010109@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498A3FED.5010109@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 02:31:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a417a317521838542571 Richard: My sister-in-law and her husband would be flattered to be termed "wealthy". They chose to sacrifice to send one of their sons there. He did his share and got very good grades. Family was proud! Martin Richard Lovison wrote: > Martin Walters wrote: >> Richard: >> Congratulations - great photo(s). >> >> Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable >> setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well worth a >> visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went >> down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else around. >> >> At the time there seemed to be a lot of construction going on. I think >> the sports facility was nearing completion. > > Martin, > > Thank you. > > Berkshire School is a wonderful institution... I hope those wealthy > enough to attend appreciate its many offerings. > > When you were there in June they were still working on the renovation of > Berkshire Hall and the construction of the Athletic Center. Both are > beautiful buildings in their completion. > > My wife has worked there for a little over 3 years as Director of > Stewardship. Overall I feel she's happier there than at Simon's Rock > College, her last place of employment. She couldn't have a more > beautiful place to work as the surroundings are quite picturesque and > the co-workers in her office seem like very nice people. Her office > doesn't even feel like a conventional office -- more like an extension > of home. > > Richard -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:02:42 2009 Received: (qmail 32330 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:02:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:02:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6796D1C40F46 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E4544004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF7C1CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:02:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521B61CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:02:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3514 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:02:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:02:29 -0000 Message-ID: <498A48B2.2040801@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:02:26 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:02:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a48c113301470116606 Don't use AOL! Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Anybody have any ideas how I can get this crap off the bottom of my emails? > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:18:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, > NSURIT@aol.com writes: > > Hope you do and share some of your images. As do you, I really like his > work. The alligators and water moccasins aren't a big deal . . . not sure > which ones are the meanest. Bill Barber > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http: > //ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > > > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:04:37 2009 Received: (qmail 16388 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:04:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:04:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61031C40F4B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3A044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF141CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:04:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D541CD486 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4350 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:04:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:04:19 -0000 Message-ID: <498A4921.1090409@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:04:17 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:04:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a493591831234514069 Yes, your 25 year old shoes are now hurting your feet. Get a new pair. Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Some of us are slower learners than others. It is a little like an old pair > of shoes . . . comfortable. I've had this email address for close to 25 > years. It would be like a divorce. Any other suggestions? Bill Barber > > > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:38:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, > ken@zone-10.com writes: > > Yes, get rid of AOL. > > > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. 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(chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:08:42 -0000 Message-ID: <498A4A27.4080401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:08:39 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:08:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a4a32327071869477228 The leaches on the bottom of your mail are paying for your mail. Your nastygram's life will be measured in nanoseconds at best. Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > I'm hoping to make life easier. Perhaps I'll send AOL a nastygram. Please, > a show of hands for all those who think that will help. Bill Barber > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, > Jim.Timpe@Fluke.com writes: > > Maybe a trial separation. > You could keep the AWOL for personal and get a second address just for > list activities. > > > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:17:44 2009 Received: (qmail 11966 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:17:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:17:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF69B1C40F54 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A3344004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5B1CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271941CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8841 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:17:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:17:37 -0000 Message-ID: <498A4C3E.9020703@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:17:34 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <406819.64859.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:17:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a4c485481591313764 The 1D line is the top of the Canon professional line. There is a Mark II (2004) and several follow-on models Latest is the 1Ds Mark III Only $6550 at B&H Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > This is way OT but I thought I would share. The article actually > mentions the camera type, however I believe "1D" might be an error. > Was there a C*non 1d MK2? > > http://www.lockportjournal.com/local/local_story_035021334.html > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:18:32 2009 Received: (qmail 1736 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:18:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406A11C40F44 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1299344004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018171CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C9F1CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9077 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:18:26 -0000 Message-ID: <498A4C70.8020907@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:18:24 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Test for removal of footer advertising X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:18:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a4c78221431234514069 Yay! I wouldn't have believed it possible. Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Lets see if this worked. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:26:47 2009 Received: (qmail 112 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:26:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:26:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979861C40F4F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4BD44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5819C34AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:26:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60A734AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:26:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11920 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:26:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:26:39 -0000 Message-ID: <498A4E5C.30709@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:26:36 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:26:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a4e67130942070262475 Yes, I really like the one on the home page. I'm only taking a 28mm on the muck about. Won't see much gator with that. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Chuck Norcutt > wrote: >> I thought you were doing a job on us to lower our expectations but >> twarn't necessary. I'm also a sucker for sunrise and sunset so Dawn's >> Early Light hits me just right. I also thought you said or implied that >> you didn't get any good eagle shots. No flies on them babies either. > > Thanks Chuck. I was disappointed at how many shots were poor, so > perhaps it was that speaking. There is a sequence of a young bird in > the air that I really love for its antics, but every frame is slightly > out of focus. > >> I do like the old store front but not with your reflection in it. It >> changes the entire mood of the shot from something old to something >> right now. I'm not sure how to get rid of it. Maybe you should have >> stepped to the right a bit. The close-up worked better. > > The self-portrait is not my favorite, but since I included a photo of > Ken, I thought I'd include myself as a joke. You might like the > alternative which is now on my homepage better: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > >> The grain elevator(?) is an interesting architectural study in gray/blue >> but the criss-crossing wires just don't belong. > > Ken showed me his shot on the LCD and I knew that I'd been whiffed. > Rather than imitate his right there, I figured I'd sneak back to that > town sometime and copy him. My shot is one of my classic attempts to > try to work too many things at once. I figured I show post it anyway > and take my lumps. I got lucky enough on a couple of the eagles. > > Ken also tried to show my his photos on the back on his OM-3Ti, but > apparently only he is able to see those. > >> I do like the old house >> and the old barn and also the house and barn on the hill top. Nathan >> would probably go berserk but if it were my image I'd have cloned out >> the power poles. > > You're a lot like my older brother, who can't stand electric lines and > poles in photos. I like them -- so there! Just say NO to cloning. > >> Nice job. Much better than I usually get on a day's outing. And I >> think I've only ever seen two eagles in the wild in my entire life. But >> I'm highly competitive in gator and water moccasin sightings. :-) > > OK, you're on. I want to see gators! Have a great vacation and don't > lose any fingers and toes. > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:38:12 2009 Received: (qmail 6230 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:38:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:38:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1171C40F57 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C9144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFACE34AC02D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:38:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6E634AC028 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:38:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16363 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:38:04 -0000 Message-ID: <498A5109.7090608@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:38:01 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> <498A0210.40902@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <498A0210.40902@picturepedia.org> Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:38:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a511437898512572685 You and your wife are amazing and have an amazing story to tell... as you've done here. Chuck Norcutt Ian W wrote: > I like using the pictures I take as a diary, though mine are > concentrated on the kids and family life, I try and keep them interesting. > > http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/7009141_k2AJN#467077559_t2kYM-A-LB > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:44:05 2009 Received: (qmail 1986 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:44:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7B21C40F40 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED581CD487 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:43:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEDC1CD486 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:43:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18573 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:43:56 -0000 Message-ID: <498A5269.3090401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:43:53 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:44:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a527587791823421471 Johnathon Sachs, creator of Picture Window told me when I asked about incremental uprezzing... "if that's true in PhotoShop then those guys don't know how to properly implement an uprezzing algorithm." That's a paraphrasing but pretty close to the original. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > I'd like to give that a try. Bicubic I presume? > > I've lately just relied on the FM plug-in SI-Pro. But I think it > actually works sort of along the same principle. I like SI-Pro for > downsizing quite well -- convenient to configure various ways. > > Joel W. > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Of course - idiot me. >> If you uprez in PS, remember the 10% rule - increase in 10% steps. I >> love how well that works. >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> >> >> On 05/02/2009, at 7:57 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: >> >>> I won't crop more, but what you are seeing is cropped from the >>> original capture. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 03:49:38 2009 Received: (qmail 31032 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 02:49:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 02:49:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82C41C40F3F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBE144004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA9E1CD487 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:49:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9291CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:49:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20466 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 02:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 02:49:29 -0000 Message-ID: <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:49:26 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 03:49:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a53c271761838542571 Because he's the protector of the mother tongue. He may be attempting = to establish the equivalent of L'Acad=E9mie fran=E7aise for English. :-) Chuck Norcutt Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > but whyyy... i learned english (or at the very least greatly improved = > it) through "friends"! > = > :( > = > nico. > = > = > = > = > On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > = > Hoi, Piers, don't *you* start letting your language slip to cr*ppy > Friends-speak (among other rubbish American comedy programmes) :-). > = > Chris > = > On 4 Feb 2009, at 12:18, Piers Hemy wrote: > = >> Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go >> figure, as I >> believe one says. > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 04:00:53 2009 Received: (qmail 25717 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 03:00:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 03:00:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D6D1C40F54 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521B944004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416331CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:00:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053451CD48A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:00:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so19287wfg.26 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:00:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.125.9 with SMTP id x9mr3290041wfc.85.1233802846713; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:00:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498A4E5C.30709@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> <498A4E5C.30709@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:00:46 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902041900t1e4883cei678bbfd3366e6b6d@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 04:00:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a5665265911234514069 On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yes, I really like the one on the home page. I'm only taking a 28mm on > the muck about. Won't see much gator with that. Well do your best. If you had an E-thingie it would be almost a normal =56mm. What do the canonistas say? "I can just crop to get that.. " Safe travels, doc. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 04:18:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25395 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 03:18:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 03:18:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46511C40302 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D6644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C08734AC02A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:17:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAD634AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:17:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32604 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 03:17:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 03:17:56 -0000 Message-ID: <498A5A62.4040207@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:17:54 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <49890AC9.8070108@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0902040845i9e00042u303e3e85c3212be0@mail.gmail.com> <498A4E5C.30709@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0902041900t1e4883cei678bbfd3366e6b6d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902041900t1e4883cei678bbfd3366e6b6d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 04:18:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a5a6d91021702588592 Much of a cypress swamp is rather shallow water (often just 6-18" deep) and pretty densely covered with vegetation. Not suitable for gators who like deeper and more open water. You're not likely to see a gator in the swamp until the water opens out into deeper, open space often created by the gator himself and referred to as a "gator hole". As the swamp dries up in the dry season (now) the small fish and other water loving critters get forced into the hole as the only place where there may be water. The gator eats well then until his hole dries up. I won't likely see a gator unless I venture out into the hole or the area around the hole which I'm not likely to do... at least with just a 28mm lens. I might be under water by that time too. Might be 6 or 8 foot deep out there. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Norcutt > wrote: >> Yes, I really like the one on the home page. I'm only taking a 28mm on >> the muck about. Won't see much gator with that. > > Well do your best. If you had an E-thingie it would be almost a > normal =56mm. What do the canonistas say? "I can just crop to get > that.. " > > Safe travels, doc. > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 04:18:31 2009 Received: (qmail 27308 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 03:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 03:18:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7611C40F53 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB5C44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9F634AC02A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:18:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C839134AC002 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n153I3o4028050 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:18:04 +1100 Message-Id: <200902050318.n153I3o4028050@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:18:03 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:18:03 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 04:18:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a5a87209477927319144 > Richard Lovison <> wrote: > > Her office > doesn't even feel like a conventional office -- more like an extension > of home. > Hey, many of us go to work to escape that feeling ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 04:23:39 2009 Received: (qmail 22314 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 03:23:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 03:23:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4371C4030D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF0F44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC7A1CD481 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:23:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF61D19F990 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:23:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 19:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n153NUN4029902 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:23:31 +1100 Message-Id: <200902050323.n153NUN4029902@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:23:30 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:23:30 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 04:23:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a5bbb147641499373980 > Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: > > Johnathon Sachs, creator of Picture Window told me when I asked about > incremental uprezzing... "if that's true in PhotoShop then those guys > don't know how to properly implement an uprezzing algorithm." That's a > paraphrasing but pretty close to the original. > I'd have to agree, anything that requires the user to have to do this incrementally indicates some fundamental flaw in the algorithm they use. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 06:44:39 2009 Received: (qmail 1487 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 05:44:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 05:44:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F171C40F37 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963AC44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9C01CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:44:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360671CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:44:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15574 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 05:44:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 05:44:23 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <4CA3A8BB-2E66-4B83-8AD6-105704321163@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:44:18 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 06:44:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a7cc7282097350615338 Fred Miranda's (SI) 'Stair Interpolator' works on repeating the 10% rule - saves doing manual repeats. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 9:08 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > I'd like to give that a try. Bicubic I presume? > > I've lately just relied on the FM plug-in SI-Pro. But I think it > actually works sort of along the same principle. I like SI-Pro for > downsizing quite well -- convenient to configure various ways. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 06:48:50 2009 Received: (qmail 19727 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 05:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 05:48:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D881C40521 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD6C44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0968D1CD485 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:48:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475111CD483 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:48:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16224 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 05:48:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 05:48:40 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> Message-Id: <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:48:34 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 06:48:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a7dc2117442336821329 Annoy them while there - insist on pronouncing it 'Barkshire' - as it should be. Especially as 'berk' is a rather offensive insult in the UK. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 11:52 AM, Martin Walters wrote: > Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable > setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well > worth a > visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went > down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else > around. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 07:43:27 2009 Received: (qmail 1317 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 06:43:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 06:43:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226E51C40F4B for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F8044004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7BD34AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:43:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B1534AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ED7461644 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:02:15 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:43:17 +0000 References: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 07:43:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a8a8f192401838542571 And he has no protective gear that I can see. The trousers might be the saw-jamming type, but since he wears no boots, helmet or eye cover, I doubt it -- or that the gloves are of the proper sort. Not a bright sort ... Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 00:15, Wayne Harridge wrote: >> >> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: >> >> "A certified construction teacher, he has learned not to try to save >> the chain saw." >> However, he hasn't learned not to sit on the branch he's cutting off! >> Good grief. > > Looks like the other beams that he had already cut off might have > extended into the other part of the roof. He probably *assumed* > (not a good idea !) that all of the beams were the same. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 07:45:24 2009 Received: (qmail 634 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 06:45:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 06:45:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6E1C40F6C for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2153944004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDBE3610004 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EBF34AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30336 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 06:45:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 06:45:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498A2FFC.4020806@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> <498A2FFC.4020806@gmail.com> Message-Id: <17FB5B65-CADC-4651-9C4E-2BEF14D43632@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:44:54 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 07:45:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a8b0428062046811720 The Moose has spoken! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 11:17 AM, Moose wrote: > Anyone who isn't using tools like SI-Pro II, IntelliSharpen II, PTLens > and NeatImage or equivalent plug-ins from other makers is wasting a > lot > of time. They do a better job than I can do with PS's built-in tools, > and in much less time. The first three, especially, are so inexpensive > it seems nuts to me not to use them. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 07:45:43 2009 Received: (qmail 32073 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 06:45:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 06:45:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A00B1C40546 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2925544004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A7B19FA5A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01FA19FA59 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19503461644 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:04:33 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:35 +0000 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 07:45:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a8b1797922336821329 If only ... :-) Friends English has changed the English of a generation, I reckon. We = now hear "rocks" instead of "stones", "train station" instead of = "railway station" etc ... They even say "tough" not "difficult" on the = BBC now Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 02:49, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Because he's the protector of the mother tongue. He may be attempting > to establish the equivalent of L'Acad=E9mie fran=E7aise for English. :-) -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 07:50:06 2009 Received: (qmail 20555 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 06:50:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 06:50:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24861C40F42 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D118440051 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9E334AC02A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:49:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8E834AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:49:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76558461644 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:08:55 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:49:57 +0000 References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 07:50:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a8c1e73561234514069 Lovely photos, Joel. I detect a very slight blue cast to some of them, but it might because there is a good amount of blue around. They're all very crisp and clear, but the detail of the shop front is excellent and the eagles very exciting. Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 00:47, Joel Wilcox wrote: > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found > herein!) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 08:29:04 2009 Received: (qmail 12683 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 07:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 07:29:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66391C40F42 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1838644004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F8019FB54 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:28:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE3C19FB44 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:28:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.243]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so118039rvb.50 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.247.11 with SMTP id u11mr116409rvh.247.1233818932233; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21sm651197rvb.7.2009.02.04.23.28.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:28:51 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:28:34 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 08:29:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a9540254462070262475 oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with petrol. til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) nico. On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Chris Barker wrote: If only ... :-) Friends English has changed the English of a generation, I reckon. We now hear "rocks" instead of "stones", "train station" instead of "railway station" etc ... They even say "tough" not "difficult" on the BBC now Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 02:49, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Because he's the protector of the mother tongue. He may be attempting > to establish the equivalent of L'Acad=E9mie fran=E7aise for English. :-) -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 08:35:30 2009 Received: (qmail 13745 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 07:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 07:35:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72CB1C40F4A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062BA44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E513134AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:35:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F69C34AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:35:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYN88238 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:36:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:35:20 -0800 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 08:35:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a96c2159281744846740 Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence = of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with petrol. > til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) > > nico. > > > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > > If only ... :-) > > Friends English has changed the English of a generation, I reckon. We > now hear "rocks" instead of "stones", "train station" instead of > "railway station" etc ... They even say "tough" not "difficult" on the > BBC now > > Chris > > On 5 Feb 2009, at 02:49, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Because he's the protector of the mother tongue. He may be = >> attempting >> to establish the equivalent of L'Acad=E9mie fran=E7aise for English. :-) > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 08:43:24 2009 Received: (qmail 26966 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 07:43:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 07:43:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DE61C40515 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AB744004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D74134AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:43:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C2034AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:43:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n157hEVD006788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:43:15 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:43:11 +1100 Message-ID: <004101c98765$665409c0$32fc1d40$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmHZFKoFzyLfsQIT4maCuXBhdPw4gAAOlyw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 08:43:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a989c313865368819438 Wait 'till you see the Bogongmoths. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 08:53:07 2009 Received: (qmail 29686 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 07:53:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 07:53:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4E91C40515 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E10C44004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BE234AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:52:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B558634AC006 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:52:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894F9C9734 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:14:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <36AA4B2E-FC92-4EED-80F5-3F698887F851@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:52:56 +0000 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 08:53:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a9ae3161157927319144 Excellent, Nico! Our culture is safe ... :-) Chris p.s. but radio announcers have started saying things like "slew" (as in "slew of measures to combat crime ...") recently. cb On 5 Feb 2009, at 07:28, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with petrol. > til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) > > nico. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 08:54:20 2009 Received: (qmail 16944 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 07:54:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 07:54:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E521C40F4F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4159944004F for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3363734AC02A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:54:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F0134AC029 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:54:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EB8C9734 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:15:54 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <2AC48D1E-266D-4C8F-98D1-2E6C6CF9043B@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:54:13 +0000 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 08:54:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498a9b2c36589117217770 I think that Nico meant the use of the term, Acer :-) Luckily the credit crunch and the price of petrol have reduced the number of plonkers who drive prat-size vehicles in the cities. Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 07:35, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence > of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > >> oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with petrol. >> til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) >> >> nico. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 09:15:07 2009 Received: (qmail 20465 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 08:15:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 08:15:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066F243017C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BF144004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79AA34AC02A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:15:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5218134AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:15:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:15:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DHA91619 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <035A71A4-4E85-41D4-985D-8B2D1A8F834A@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2AC48D1E-266D-4C8F-98D1-2E6C6CF9043B@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:14:58 -0800 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> <2AC48D1E-266D-4C8F-98D1-2E6C6CF9043B@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 09:15:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498aa00b302921585427447 In that case, I'm holding the fort across the pond, as I fill up with petrol! On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > I think that Nico meant the use of the term, Acer :-) > > Luckily the credit crunch and the price of petrol have reduced the > number of plonkers who drive prat-size vehicles in the cities. > > Chris > > On 5 Feb 2009, at 07:35, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > >> Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence >> of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! >> >> On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: >> >>> oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with >>> petrol. >>> til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) >>> >>> nico. >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 09:22:35 2009 Received: (qmail 17797 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 08:22:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 08:22:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B091430107 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249EE44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793234AC037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:22:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF4734AC03E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:22:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.248]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so139314rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.128.19 with SMTP id f19mr141420rvn.276.1233822148741; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm481597rvb.3.2009.02.05.00.22.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:22:28 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <035A71A4-4E85-41D4-985D-8B2D1A8F834A@ucr.edu> References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> <2AC48D1E-266D-4C8F-98D1-2E6C6CF9043B@threeshoes.net> <035A71A4-4E85-41D4-985D-8B2D1A8F834A@ucr.edu> Message-Id: <01CEF3D5-B8A0-4F1E-B736-97C88A3750C3@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:22:11 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 09:22:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498aa1cb266871234514069 ... and spell with "ou"... and put milk in your tea... and use "odd" words... and like british shows... and i could go on! psh, "hold the fort" - you're little britain yourself! :) On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:14 AM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: In that case, I'm holding the fort across the pond, as I fill up with petrol! On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > I think that Nico meant the use of the term, Acer :-) > > Luckily the credit crunch and the price of petrol have reduced the > number of plonkers who drive prat-size vehicles in the cities. > > Chris > > On 5 Feb 2009, at 07:35, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > >> Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence >> of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! >> >> On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: >> >>> oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with >>> petrol. >>> til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) >>> >>> nico. >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 09:55:09 2009 Received: (qmail 22322 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 08:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 08:55:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341414300F3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4A844004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2834AC02B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:54:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F8C34AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:54:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.193]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail12.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n158st3L003442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:54:57 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> <36AA4B2E-FC92-4EED-80F5-3F698887F851@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <36AA4B2E-FC92-4EED-80F5-3F698887F851@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:54:53 +1100 Message-ID: <004201c9876f$6a045c00$3e0d1400$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmHZsd8+ShfT/ePTxC/qOl7C5obxwACHc0w Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 09:55:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498aa96d8561744846740 I see that "slew" is sometimes used for "slough", "A state of deep despair or moral degradation" - how appropriate ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Chris p.s. but radio announcers have started saying things like "slew" (as in "slew of measures to combat crime ...") recently. cb On 5 Feb 2009, at 07:28, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with petrol. > til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) > > nico. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 10:05:59 2009 Received: (qmail 24490 invoked by uid 0); 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Thu, 5 Feb 2009 01:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [77.208.12.242] (port=49372) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LV0hi-0001Vi-Hm (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:39:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , LEG , Olympus Camera Discussion Message-Id: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:39:23 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 10:39:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ab3df30291023412894 Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in the end. http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 11:02:33 2009 Received: (qmail 14768 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 10:02:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 10:02:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46E743015D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E3244004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEDB19DED1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:02:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4FD19DEE2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:02:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:02:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so136353fgb.36 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:02:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.80.17 with SMTP id d17mr215123fgb.55.1233828140191; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:02:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:02:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d130b0c4e972a734 Message-ID: <9f07ac840902050202i25cae518te775ba57ad627351@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 11:02:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ab93921671946193717 Lovely shot! So much more interesting than 4 burnt terbrikes (or whatever!)I admit I would be tempted to photoshop out that join in the wall panels (sorry!) Jez On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Nathan wrote: > Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her > before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was > struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the > other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a > quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she > was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over > with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the > background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly > combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what > B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of > softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in > the end. > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB > > Nathan > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 11:04:02 2009 Received: (qmail 25381 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 10:04:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 10:04:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6374F4301C2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:04:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163F144004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF27634AC02D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:03:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB7C34AC037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:03:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LV15O-00060e-Id for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:03:54 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:03:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 11:04:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ab992168681591313764 I like that last one, Tom. Especially how in the reflected part of the image the tenement (?) buildings have vanished below the ice ;-) Frank. On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:05:52 +0000, Tom Fenwick wrote: >Everything is getting a bit picturesque around here but I can't help liking >yesterday's new ones: > >http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877770 >http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 > >Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 11:05:27 2009 Received: (qmail 10011 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 10:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 10:05:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4934301AB for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E4A44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5932E34AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:05:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E0D34AC02B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:05:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so137414fgb.36 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:05:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.95.8 with SMTP id s8mr222876fgb.28.1233828318550; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:05:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:05:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 96167c1c2b065380 Message-ID: <9f07ac840902050205i227cf6d3p28d6a19774120787@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 11:05:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ab9e719102046811720 We'll dance for all y'all - and for the Dell adverts that continue to interest us...jez On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:30 PM, wrote: > Yes, I know it is cold up north and you know it is warm down south. We > will > probably be in the high 60's or low 70's today. We've had one or two days > so far this year that have dipped below freezing and this isn't about > global > warming, it just happens to be the way things are in Texas when it isn't > hotter than hell. > > What you may not know is it is drier than a popcorn fart down here. > Driest > year since 1902. Yes, I know, we should just suck it up. Unfortunately, > that is exactly what San Antonio has been doing for many years . . . > sucking the > Edwards Aquifer dry. What that means is, as a new homeowners in an area > on > top of the Edwards, I can't tap into it for my water. That really isn't a > problem as I installed a rainwater collection system when the house was > built. > Unfortunately we plan to move in by the end of the month and we have two > 10,000 gallon rainwater storage tanks that are empty. That sucks! So, my > request of the list is for each of you to take a moment this weekend and > do a > little rain dance for central Texas. Perhaps the collective consciousness > of the > OMers will break this dry spell. > > What this has to do with OMs is that I need water for my wet darkroom. > Until it rains, there will be no "cloud juice" produced images. So, > please > everyone, dance like there is no tomorrow. A huge Texas thanks goes out > to all > you dancers. <{B^) Bill Barber > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 11:09:00 2009 Received: (qmail 21496 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 10:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 10:08:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C464301C3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE7F44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0DC19DF18 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:08:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295D519DF15 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:08:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [77.208.12.242] (port=49395) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LV1A9-0003mP-CW (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:08:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840902050202i25cae518te775ba57ad627351@mail.gmail.com> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> <9f07ac840902050202i25cae518te775ba57ad627351@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Nathan Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:08:45 +0100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 11:09:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ababc235091023412894 Thanks Jez, but MY TEBIRKES WERE NOT BURNT--they just look like that because of the black sesame seeds. So there :-) Nathan (heading for Brussels in a couple of hours) On 05/02/2009, at 11:02, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Lovely shot! So much more interesting than 4 burnt terbrikes (or > whatever!)I > admit I would be tempted to photoshop out that join in the wall panels > (sorry!) > Jez > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Nathan wrote: > >> Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her >> before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was >> struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the >> other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a >> quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she >> was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over >> with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the >> background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly >> combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what >> B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of >> softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in >> the end. >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB >> >> Nathan >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 11:42:28 2009 Received: (qmail 31251 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 10:42:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 10:42:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278564301B1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4635A440050 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3366A34AC028 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:42:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A4D34AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:42:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LV1ga-0003rj-Ox for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:42:20 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:42:16 +0100 Message-ID: <63flo4567vggc8t5unl90uqsf56pvfgkdj@4ax.com> References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 11:42:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ac2949182046811720 All the fault of Gary Davies! (the DJ, I mean). You must have disliked his 'modern' radio speech... But isn't this just the way SE - and any other living language - develops in time? Frank. On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:35 +0000, Chris Barker wrote: >If only ... :-) > >Friends English has changed the English of a generation, I reckon. We >now hear "rocks" instead of "stones", "train station" instead of >"railway station" etc ... They even say "tough" not "difficult" on the >BBC now > >Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 12:08:19 2009 Received: (qmail 17681 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 11:08:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 11:08:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094A84301B1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805EF44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9DE19E12E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:08:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A955B19E103 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:08:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ralf_loi@it.ibm.com whitelisted) Received: from mtagate3.de.ibm.com (mtagate3.de.ibm.com [195.212.29.152]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate3.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n15B89uE169688 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:08:09 GMT Received: from d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.216]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.1) with ESMTP id n15B88ev1687782 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:08:09 +0100 Received: from d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n15B8825017426 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:08:08 +0100 Received: from d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.166.154]) by d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n15B8782017413 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:08:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Disclaimed: 41310 To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 From: Ralf Loi X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 05/02/2009 12.08.05, Serialize by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 05/02/2009 12.08.05, Serialize complete at 05/02/2009 12.08.05, S/MIME Sign failed at 05/02/2009 12.08.05: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on D12ML401/12/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 05/02/2009 12:08:07, Serialize complete at 05/02/2009 12:08:07 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:08:05 +0100 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Re: Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 12:08:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ac8a3542046811720 If it were possible, I would send you tons of north italy rain - had probably the most rainier winter in a long time Ralf Loi -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 12:39:45 2009 Received: (qmail 3908 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 11:39:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 11:39:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78A04301B5 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51CB44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59E234AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:39:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184B734AC032 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:39:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LV2a0-0008VT-QF for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:39:37 +0000 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com><49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk><2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:39:34 -0000 Message-ID: <2FBB4580A9684CC0A2738EA852E461B0@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> Thread-Index: AcmHEw0PcxGJFpARRTefuTeZZMJYnQAcu+Zw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 12:39:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ad001226681499373980 Eternally sorry, chum. But I had hoped you would spot the ironic juxtaposition of the (deliberate) Americanism and the damned proper English use of "one". Actually, I am sure you did spot it ;-) Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] Sent: 04 February 2009 21:54 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. Hoi, Piers, don't *you* start letting your language slip to cr*ppy Friends-speak (among other rubbish American comedy programmes) :-). Chris On 4 Feb 2009, at 12:18, Piers Hemy wrote: > Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go > figure, as I believe one says. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 12:48:51 2009 Received: (qmail 10459 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 11:48:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 11:48:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDF5430192 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EDC44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3992534AC037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:48:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B731B34AC032 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:48:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 03:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27EE461651 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:07:40 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <57DBE7C4-937B-4DF5-AAC4-4E7B92315DAB@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2FBB4580A9684CC0A2738EA852E461B0@your9ya3hf92n3> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:48:42 +0000 References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com><49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk><2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <2FBB4580A9684CC0A2738EA852E461B0@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 12:48:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ad22373401499373980 I did, old bean, but it gave me a platform, so to speak ... :-) Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 11:39, Piers Hemy wrote: > Eternally sorry, chum. But I had hoped you would spot the ironic > juxtaposition of the (deliberate) Americanism and the damned proper > English > use of "one". Actually, I am sure you did spot it ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:14:29 2009 Received: (qmail 518 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:14:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:14:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3185A4301B4 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D806444004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB22F19E35A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:14:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3B719E36B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:14:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30831 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 12:14:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 12:14:14 -0000 Message-ID: <498AD813.8080308@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:14:11 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:14:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ad825101741234514069 Ooh! I really like 589. Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > Everything is getting a bit picturesque around here but I can't help liking > yesterday's new ones: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877770 > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 > > Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:22:24 2009 Received: (qmail 24153 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:22:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:22:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB13430233 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB1C44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FB534AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:22:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6616834AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:22:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE39946165F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:41:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <385FCE68-8079-4DD5-BD99-C1E1B0C2997E@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:22:16 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:22:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ada00159217350615338 Right, Tom, that's it! I'm off to collect Madame from work and I'll find some more picturesque scenes ... :-) Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 09:05, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Everything is getting a bit picturesque around here but I can't help > liking > yesterday's new ones: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877770 > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:26:07 2009 Received: (qmail 8183 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:26:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BF0430229 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230E144004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145A634AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:26:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6706134AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:25:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3276 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 12:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 12:25:58 -0000 Message-ID: <498ADAD4.2030305@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:25:56 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:26:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498adadf113911234514069 Very nice and the softness is fine in a portrait. However, you have violated one of the portraitist's commandments. Thou shalt not have prominent background lines emanating from the subject's head. Fine, of course, for a snapshot but, were it mine, I'd have the clone tool working them out. But I suspect no one else even notices such things. Chuck Norcutt Nathan wrote: > Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her > before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was > struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the > other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a > quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she > was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over > with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the > background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly > combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what > B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of > softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in > the end. > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:37:41 2009 Received: (qmail 3087 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:37:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:37:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92068430233 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A15044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9DB19E436 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:37:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E66419E440 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:37:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70DC732DEC for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:44:46 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d561e) id dm0201.4981cddc.80262c for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:37:33 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jit2NnxupTQIAAAAB,9de7f6fa0db5c9cb56103e493d7cf34e Message-ID: <498ADD98.2090909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:37:44 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902050318.n153I3o4028050@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200902050318.n153I3o4028050@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:37:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498add95137294673671140 Wayne Harridge wrote: > >> Richard Lovison <> wrote: >> >> Her office doesn't even feel like a conventional office -- >> more like an extension of home. >> > > Hey, many of us go to work to escape that feeling ! LOL. I didn't mean the "emotional atmosphere of home" that I'm sure there are times my wife loves to escape from but more the physical environment. When you enter her office building it is more like entering a nicely decorated, comfortable home instead of a sterile, cold office environment that has cubicles and fluorescent lighting. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:49:12 2009 Received: (qmail 19516 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:49:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:49:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E894301BB for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD7044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44934AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D7934AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0107.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0107.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A68B2E415 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:04 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d561e) id dm0202.4981cde5.80ccf7 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:49:03 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiuA/hyP3/AIAAAAB,752d0715b9a9f80db39509f146ed889b Message-ID: <498AE04A.8070502@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:49:14 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498A3FED.5010109@gmail.com> <498A416F.80908@rogers.com> In-Reply-To: <498A416F.80908@rogers.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:49:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae04858723675314703 Martin Walters wrote: > Richard: > My sister-in-law and her husband would be flattered to be termed > "wealthy". They chose to sacrifice to send one of their sons there. He > did his share and got very good grades. Family was proud! Martin, I wasn't targeting you when I wrote "I hope those wealthy enough to attend appreciate its many offerings." Actually what I wrote was poorly written. I'm happy to hear your nephew did well and I hope the school's teachings has lasting positive effects for him. There are many students at the school on scholarship and I'm sure many that don't come from wealthy families. Yet there are those that feel they are the privileged ones and let others know it. The latter is the group I have issue with. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:57:47 2009 Received: (qmail 23059 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:57:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:57:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D769A430200 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAC044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF81419E512 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:57:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2483619E25D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:57:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LV3nV-0004tl-R3 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:57:38 +0000 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:57:34 -0000 Message-ID: <9C0D617D9D334571B14A0A0F73A0F3B0@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> Thread-Index: AcmHVWrEPDDP1myKQx2ZDs6MVn8FuwAO8YXw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:57:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae24b90185368819438 Indeed so, Andrew - but let's not start on the rhyming slang from which the insult derives. Piers -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: 05 February 2009 05:49 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment Annoy them while there - insist on pronouncing it 'Barkshire' - as it should be. Especially as 'berk' is a rather offensive insult in the UK. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 11:52 AM, Martin Walters wrote: > Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable > setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well worth > a visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went > down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else > around. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 13:59:24 2009 Received: (qmail 11335 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 12:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 12:59:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E7E1C40F45 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F97544004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA15734AC032 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:59:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4508234AC031 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:59:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.10]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEL00F2HG2SVKH1@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:59:16 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-138-10-33.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.10.33]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:59:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:59:21 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnARAGNxikkYigoh/2dsb2JhbACBaIhUxlkHhA8G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,385,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="467302788" References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 13:59:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae2ac60862070262475 Hey, what's wrong with Berk? There was an hour long piece on tv station WGBH Boston, MA last night about the Queen's visit to Virginia in 2007 and her subsequent meeting with Bush 43. Interviews were screened with, amongst others, the first lady of Virginia.. The first lady said on one or more occasions that she had been assigned to take care of the Duke of Edinberg and that HM could look forward to her trip to the Kentucky Darby. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment > Annoy them while there - insist on pronouncing it 'Barkshire' - as it > should be. > Especially as 'berk' is a rather offensive insult in the UK. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/02/2009, at 11:52 AM, Martin Walters wrote: > >> Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable >> setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well >> worth a >> visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went >> down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else >> around. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:05:21 2009 Received: (qmail 9388 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:05:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E231C40F55 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF78F44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4CC34AC031 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:05:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B1D34AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:05:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28301 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 13:05:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:05:09 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <63flo4567vggc8t5unl90uqsf56pvfgkdj@4ax.com> References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> <63flo4567vggc8t5unl90uqsf56pvfgkdj@4ax.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:05:03 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:05:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae411219961499373980 It's just bloody Newspeak. Doubleplus ungood. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 9:42 PM, Frank van Lindert wrote: > But isn't this just the way SE - and any other living language - > develops in time? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:07:02 2009 Received: (qmail 741 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:07:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F190430230 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:07:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC86444004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEF919E534 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3495519E53A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.10]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEL00FSOGF0VHH1@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:06:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-138-10-33.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.10.33]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:06:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:06:41 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <6996D2EEFB964C7380BFE09C7323A571@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnARAJByikkYigoh/2dsb2JhbACBaIhUxlYHhA8G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,385,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="467305198" References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498A3FED.5010109@gmail.com> <498A416F.80908@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:07:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae476307077927319144 The value of a year or three at such schools is not so much the education. The value lies in the connections made in one's junior years that will survive for the rest of your life. A simple case of "it's not what you know but who you know". Those who go are generally up on the "nature" scale in nature v nurture. What the school does is to work on the nurture end of things. At the end of the day the output is likely far ahead of what comes out of the non-private system. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Walters" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment > Richard: > My sister-in-law and her husband would be flattered to be termed > "wealthy". They chose to sacrifice to send one of their sons there. He > did his share and got very good grades. Family was proud! > Martin > > Richard Lovison wrote: >> Martin Walters wrote: >>> Richard: >>> Congratulations - great photo(s). >>> >>> Berkshire School has an excellent reputation and is in an enjoyable >>> setting. We've always been told that the Berkshire area is well worth a >>> visit. My wife's nephew graduated from there last June. We all went >>> down for the ceremony. Short visit, and we didn't see much else around. >>> >>> At the time there seemed to be a lot of construction going on. I think >>> the sports facility was nearing completion. >> >> Martin, >> >> Thank you. >> >> Berkshire School is a wonderful institution... I hope those wealthy >> enough to attend appreciate its many offerings. >> >> When you were there in June they were still working on the renovation of >> Berkshire Hall and the construction of the Athletic Center. Both are >> beautiful buildings in their completion. >> >> My wife has worked there for a little over 3 years as Director of >> Stewardship. Overall I feel she's happier there than at Simon's Rock >> College, her last place of employment. She couldn't have a more >> beautiful place to work as the surroundings are quite picturesque and >> the co-workers in her office seem like very nice people. Her office >> doesn't even feel like a conventional office -- more like an extension >> of home. >> >> Richard > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:12:22 2009 Received: (qmail 11360 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:12:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCD1430233 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A6944004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293E19E5B6 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:12:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9780A19E59F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:12:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28651 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 13:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:12:12 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:12:06 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:12:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae5b6246651342116753 My car runs on petrol AND gas (tho' not at the same time). Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 6:28 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > oh, needn't worry... you chaps still have lorries filled with petrol. > til you start seeing gas-guzzling trucks, you're safe :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:13:15 2009 Received: (qmail 10626 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:13:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD58D430230 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9B544004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003833610004 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:13:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADCC34AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:13:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29716 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 13:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:13:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <004101c98765$665409c0$32fc1d40$@com.au> References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> <004101c98765$665409c0$32fc1d40$@com.au> Message-Id: <7230C46C-6216-4D90-A990-095D78B7E69F@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:12:57 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:13:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae5eb48241744846740 Pygmy Possums ate 'em all. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 6:43 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > Wait 'till you see the Bogongmoths. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > > Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence > of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:20:30 2009 Received: (qmail 4180 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:20:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:20:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE82F4301F3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2633C440050 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164FB34AC033 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:20:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7360F34AC034 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:20:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.234.120]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEL00JRGGTNADT3@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:15:23 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <498AE79E.1000300@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:20:30 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:20:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae79e80989347015869 Love the texture in the abandoned store. Very nice. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Joel Wilcox wrote: > OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to > include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last > weekend: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:22:52 2009 Received: (qmail 5338 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:22:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845AB4301C5 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCDF44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402A734AC033 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:22:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E68D34AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:22:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30329 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 13:22:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:22:42 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:22:35 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:22:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ae82c172441234514069 It's a piece of rhyming slang - for 'idiot'. I am pleased that Piers knows the origin tho' I'd expect no less. It refers to a dimwit 19th Century (?) celebrity of the name of Berkley Hunt. No further explanation forthcoming. Berkshire and Derby are place names pronounced as if the 'e' is an 'a'. This is because, like many English names, they have retained the pronunciation as it was before the Great Vowel Shift (mid-12th Century). If you are going to steal them, for gawd's sake, get them right! Please note also - Leicester - lester (where I was dragged up). And for Tasmanians, Launceston - lawnstun. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/02/2009, at 11:59 PM, John Hudson wrote: > Hey, what's wrong with Berk? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 14:43:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8763 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 13:43:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 13:43:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FFF430205 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9B044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BD419E6D3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E74319E62B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.234.120]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEL006U9HVW7UQB@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:38:20 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <498AECFF.4050703@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:43:27 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902042254.n14Mstut031659@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-reply-to: <200902042254.n14Mstut031659@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 14:43:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498aed0d174094673671140 I had been unhappy with how my Jalbum looked until I found that their built in sharpening was turned way up (did I do it, I don't know, maybe). I lowered it to first notch from the left and that made it all good. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Joel Wilcox <> wrote: >> >> sharpening, but I just let Jalbum crunch the images this time in >> processing the web page. >> > > I've noticed Jalbum tends to do that by default, seems particularly bad if the image is a bit noisy. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:00:09 2009 Received: (qmail 22468 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:00:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2D5430239 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BF0D0404A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFC219E799 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:00:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33F719E77E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:00:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LV4ls-0003n5-Dx for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:00:00 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:59:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <49896D2C.8030009@chucknorcutt.com> <49896EAA.7010504@blueyonder.co.uk> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> In-Reply-To: <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:00:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498af0e95662046811720 Brings me to another language question: On telly I heard one say 'temperature going north'. He definitely meant that it was getting warmer. Is this also 'new speak'? Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. ps: or is this only said in Oz? ;-) On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:18:34 -0000, Piers Hemy wrote: >Same from up in the frozen *really* north - no snow at all. Go figure, as I >believe one says. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:10:50 2009 Received: (qmail 27337 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:10:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:10:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE554301D2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F2744004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F310519E827 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9717419E823 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090205141043.JKYD22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:10:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498A5269.3090401@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <498904D3.70104@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902040830s3f4e8aecx7076f868a7eab3cc@mail.gmail.com> <8B841BF0-6C7A-4877-BA72-BC3448F12A15@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041257i2c213c06ob87f27417e143b21@mail.gmail.com> <6BF73664-E566-4A01-89B0-C150D0F5C9F7@people.net.au> <9e908c1f0902041408j2ff76abboee64c7d0b999a5e7@mail.gmail.com> <498A5269.3090401@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:10:37 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:10:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498af36a186989117217770 I don't know about theory, but in practice I've used CS2, CS3, Picture Window Pro, Fred Miranda, Q-imabge and Genuine Fractals for going up and down, and for most sizes there's not a dime's worth of difference in the final print between any of them. When you start taking an E-1 file large, to, say, 16x20, IMHO, Genuine Fractals takes a very slight edge, but you really have to be looking for it. With the Nykon D3's native files, which are considerably larger (roughly 11x14), the leaps are not so dramatic, and Q-image and CS3 seem just fine. Genuine Fractals as well, because it allows some extra tinkering with the final product. This is of course utterly subjective, and your mileage will vary. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Johnathon Sachs, creator of Picture Window told me when I asked about > incremental uprezzing... "if that's true in PhotoShop then those guys > don't know how to properly implement an uprezzing algorithm." > That's a > paraphrasing but pretty close to the original. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:14:23 2009 Received: (qmail 2576 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:14:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:14:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A3B430290 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C772C44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA30534AC006 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:14:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66ED634AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:14:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.234.120]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEL00MXWJJDILD3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:14:01 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <498AF435.7030206@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:14:13 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <198D855E-BBBD-44B1-8D0B-C64EEED9C6C2@ucr.edu> <3F4F5AC0-12D0-432F-90BD-AD9603BD2D98@roadrunner.com> <4988A112.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> <3A87EF54-FAD6-4CF7-9D10-D6026B51E343@threeshoes.net> <3F4825D9-C7D1-47B2-A270-56C0C538BBC8@frozenlight.eu> <498A0210.40902@picturepedia.org> In-reply-to: <498A0210.40902@picturepedia.org> Subject: Re: [OM] Following Nathan's lead... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:14:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498af43f141011023412894 I have kept many of Cai's pictures in my pictures-from-customers folder as it is such a touching story. We hope everything goes well. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ian W wrote: > I like using the pictures I take as a diary, though mine are > concentrated on the kids and family life, I try and keep them interesting. > > http://thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/7009141_k2AJN#467077559_t2kYM-A-LB > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:16:19 2009 Received: (qmail 19547 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:16:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA17E4301E9 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A67C44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF16A34AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:16:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945A134AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:16:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:16:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090205141612.CXTO21987.cdptpa-omta05.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:16:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:16:06 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:16:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498af4b3158671073733319 She really took the genes down straight, didn't she? Nice shot. My only criticism, if you could call it that, is the vertical lines in the background. But backgrounds have a way of generating intrusions when you're trying for a meaningful grab shot. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:39 AM, Nathan wrote: > Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her > before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was > struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:26:25 2009 Received: (qmail 2276 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:26:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:26:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907FB43022D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3F044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF8919E8D5 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:26:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B0F19E8D1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:26:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so335152qyk.14 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:26:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.116.17 with SMTP id o17mr788122qac.79.1233843976153; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:26:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7230C46C-6216-4D90-A990-095D78B7E69F@people.net.au> References: <498913FE.9060407@chucknorcutt.com> <2E714BD18E7F480EB02ECC814A1A287E@your9ya3hf92n3> <2E2A9F79-07B6-460D-84E2-769BDC89E4BB@threeshoes.net> <32AE222C-3756-455A-8D59-F12B2F4749D7@gmail.com> <498A53B6.1080601@chucknorcutt.com> <004101c98765$665409c0$32fc1d40$@com.au> <7230C46C-6216-4D90-A990-095D78B7E69F@people.net.au> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:26:15 -0500 Message-ID: <14883a8b0902050626i18f1b579h31925891971cdd17@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:26:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498af711318897350615338 That would be "Opossums" but alas less alliterative. Charlie On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Pygmy Possums ate 'em all. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/02/2009, at 6:43 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > Wait 'till you see the Bogongmoths. > > > > ...Wayne > > > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > > > > > Oh I think the day has come... I was surprised to see the prevalence > > of behemoths in London, and this was 2003! > > > > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:30:24 2009 Received: (qmail 4652 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:30:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA771C40302 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C0D44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A723719E8E3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:30:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2304519E8E1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:30:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32027 invoked by uid 504); 5 Feb 2009 14:30:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@75.145.241.121) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Feb 2009 14:30:16 -0000 Message-ID: <498AF7F5.507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:30:13 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:30:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498af80067871869477228 Generally the case in eastern Massachusetts although I don't ever recall berk and derby pronounced as though e was a. My own Massachusetts town (now spelled Woburn) is pronounced by the locals as "Wooob'n" and derives from its original incorporation spelling (1642?) as Wobourne and the propensity of those from Massachusetts to lose track of r. I lived in Woburn for 11 years and still can't pronounce it like a native. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > It's a piece of rhyming slang - for 'idiot'. > I am pleased that Piers knows the origin tho' I'd expect no less. > It refers to a dimwit 19th Century (?) celebrity of the name of > Berkley Hunt. > No further explanation forthcoming. > > Berkshire and Derby are place names pronounced as if the 'e' is an > 'a'. This is because, like many English names, they have retained the > pronunciation as it was before the Great Vowel Shift (mid-12th > Century). If you are going to steal them, for gawd's sake, get them > right! > > Please note also - > Leicester - lester (where I was dragged up). > And for Tasmanians, Launceston - lawnstun. > > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/02/2009, at 11:59 PM, John Hudson wrote: > >> Hey, what's wrong with Berk? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 15:45:17 2009 Received: (qmail 19009 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 14:45:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 14:45:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC221C40F53 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F4B44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830C534AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B4934AC001 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so98152anc.35 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:45:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr293795wff.138.1233845109163; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:45:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:45:09 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Hawaiian gator (was "Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 15:45:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498afb7d278701234514069 Chuck, I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html Joel W. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Much of a cypress swamp is rather shallow water (often just 6-18" deep) > and pretty densely covered with vegetation. Not suitable for gators who > like deeper and more open water. You're not likely to see a gator in > the swamp until the water opens out into deeper, open space often > created by the gator himself and referred to as a "gator hole". As the > swamp dries up in the dry season (now) the small fish and other water > loving critters get forced into the hole as the only place where there > may be water. The gator eats well then until his hole dries up. I > won't likely see a gator unless I venture out into the hole or the area > around the hole which I'm not likely to do... at least with just a 28mm > lens. I might be under water by that time too. Might be 6 or 8 foot > deep out there. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 16:12:43 2009 Received: (qmail 3250 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 15:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 15:12:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD799430262 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808C844004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DAB34AC034 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:12:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FE834AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:12:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:12:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC6F461515 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:31:32 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:12:34 +0000 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 16:12:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b01eb176921234514069 Unfortunately for your explanation, Andrew. The rude four-letter word to which you refer isn't really an insult, as we Brits would understand it (or say it), in the USA. Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 13:22, Andrew Fildes wrote: > It's a piece of rhyming slang - for 'idiot'. > I am pleased that Piers knows the origin tho' I'd expect no less. > It refers to a dimwit 19th Century (?) celebrity of the name of > Berkley Hunt. > No further explanation forthcoming. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 16:25:30 2009 Received: (qmail 22150 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 15:25:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 15:25:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B69430267 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDAED0404A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327CC34AC034 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:25:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ED434AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:25:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAFB461659 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:44:20 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <6A2E346B-9D44-43D9-A5EE-FC454E5B8651@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:25:21 +0000 References: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Hawaiian gator (was "Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 16:25:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b04ea208138512572685 Excellent, Joel! Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 14:45, Joel Wilcox wrote: > Chuck, > I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 16:28:19 2009 Received: (qmail 2348 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 15:28:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 15:28:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D5A43023B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA4D44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:28:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9BD19EB51 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:28:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E1419EB3D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:28:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:28:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED73461531 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:47:06 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:28:08 +0000 References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 16:28:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b059342269347015869 That's a lovely pair of faces, Nathan, with great expressions. And don't listen to the others: I didn't notice the vertical lines emanating from their heads, not at all ... :-) Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 09:39, Nathan wrote: > Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her > before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was > struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the > other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a > quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she > was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over > with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the > background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly > combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what > B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of > softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in > the end. > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 16:35:50 2009 Received: (qmail 19697 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 15:35:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 15:35:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C0443022B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9437244004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AF019EC1E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:35:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DACD19EC09 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:35:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so112850anc.35 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:35:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.173.18 with SMTP id v18mr294589ane.17.1233848136209; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:35:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:35:36 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 69ddbc9237a73fb8 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 16:35:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b0756123401585427447 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 16:40:00 2009 Received: (qmail 12415 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 15:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 15:40:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538E01C40306 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03F144004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02A319EC72 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:39:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CCB19EC37 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:39:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (candacerocks@bresnan.net whitelisted) Received: from cluster1.bresnan.net (cluster1.bresnan.net [69.145.248.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [98.127.161.204] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTP id 809247281 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:39:45 -0700 Message-ID: <498B0842.3090001@bresnan.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:39:46 -0700 From: Candace Lemarr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 16:40:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b085087877927319144 It would seem to be... Candace Ken Norton wrote: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 16:42:46 2009 Received: (qmail 15879 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 15:42:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 15:42:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C75A430292 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B2044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73E319E831 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F0819EC91 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 8C99E82FP0 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:32 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:42:31 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Is it my imagination? Thread-Index: AcmHp2/jwaWHtEPWQgCOBWpxtXBotwAANaWw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2009 15:42:32.0650 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C1E12A0:01C987A8] Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 16:42:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b08f6120441499373980 Ken said: To which I reply: Pretty unimaginative if it is.... 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Processed in 0.228519 secs); 05 Feb 2009 16:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp4.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp2.localnet.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:03:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21411 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 16:03:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-13-222.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.13.222]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp4.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Feb 2009 16:03:07 -0000 From: Doug To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:04:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902051105.00214.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:03:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b0dc6271711869477228 On Thursday, February 05, 2009 01:43, Chris Barker wrote: > And he has no protective gear that I can see. The trousers might be > the saw-jamming type, but since he wears no boots, helmet or eye > cover, I doubt it -- or that the gloves are of the proper sort. > > Not a bright sort ... > > Chris > > On 5 Feb 2009, at 00:15, Wayne Harridge wrote: > >> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > >> > >> "A certified construction teacher, he has learned not to try to save > >> the chain saw." > >> However, he hasn't learned not to sit on the branch he's cutting off! > >> Good grief. > > > > Looks like the other beams that he had already cut off might have > > extended into the other part of the roof. He probably *assumed* > > (not a good idea !) that all of the beams were the same. I'll bet he was showing off for the photographer just to make the situation worse. He doesn't realize just how lucky he was not to land on the running chain saw! Also notice that the electric wires are still hooked to the building. After listening to a ringing in my head(in other words my bs detector going off) I took another look at the photos in more detail. I think we aren't being told the whole story. If you look from the first photo to the fifth photo it becomes apparent that he was sitting on the roof and not the beam and the roof is still there. Now compare the first and second photo. In the first photo his feet are back under the edge of the roof. In the second photo the feet are above the edge of the roof. Even if you summersault going off the roof, your heels are going to catch on the underside of the roof. Here's what I think happened. The reporter shows up and wants to get photos with some action in them. They may even be friends. The construction guy grabs his chain saw and cuts a side notch out of the rafter. The only reason, I can think of, that you would do this is to give the photographer some action to shoot. The photographer does catch the piece of wood from the notch falling. If you are going to notch a board to keep your saw from being pinched then you'll cut the notch from the top or bottom depending on which way you think the board is being bent. One of two things happen next. The construction guy starts to cut the beam from the top and gets the saw pinched. He then switches position to his knees on the roof. From this position he either tried to pull the saw out by jerking it, the beam breaks and the sudden addition of ten pounds of chainsaw at arms length over balances him and and off the roof he goes. The other possibility is that he was trying to push down on the beam to break it. When it did, he was leaning on nothing but air. There's a third possibility. If a video does show up on America's Funny home videos I'll believe that the whole thing was staged. -Doug being his cynical self -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:03:50 2009 Received: (qmail 11396 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:03:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64197430281 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6005A44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD8534AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:03:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB59E34AC002 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:03:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so181839ele.8 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:03:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.239.11 with SMTP id m11mr330633wfh.174.1233849797332; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:03:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:03:17 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902050803ga3d40e8veb1565ac14d00b7c@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:03:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b0de642831073733319 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Everything is getting a bit picturesque around here but I can't help liking > yesterday's new ones: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877770 > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 I like that as a way of incorporating buildings into a landscape. Well done. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:09:01 2009 Received: (qmail 17849 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:09:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:09:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993F7430268 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71371440050 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6232819EDFD for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2008519EDC3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so326664wfg.26 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:08:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr338701wfc.130.1233850134873; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:08:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:08:54 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902050808m3e834733mc9432f4a4e5ab4d1@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:09:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b0f1d266269347015869 Thanks Chris. I'm actually gratified that you picked up the cool cast. I feel it is pretty accurate, but I'm not sure I like it. I need to work with my settings on the E-3. Compared to the E-1, the default settings seem quite clinical to me. Lightroom is also part of the stream as well and may be contributing its bits as well. Joel W. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Lovely photos, Joel. I detect a very slight blue cast to some of > them, but it might because there is a good amount of blue around. > > They're all very crisp and clear, but the detail of the shop front is > excellent and the eagles very exciting. > > Chris > > > On 4 Feb 2009, at 00:47, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to >> include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last >> weekend: >> >> http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html >> >> (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found >> herein!) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:33:00 2009 Received: (qmail 7838 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:32:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED061C40F45 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1541644004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088F234AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:32:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091DA34AC037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:32:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so129679anc.35 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:32:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.57.13 with SMTP id f13mr314911ana.143.1233851566661; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:32:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050808m3e834733mc9432f4a4e5ab4d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902050808m3e834733mc9432f4a4e5ab4d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:32:46 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4e8aa6261f1278db Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:33:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b14bc7671234514069 > > Lightroom is also part of > the stream as well and may be contributing its bits as well. > Ah, that makes sense. Lightroom doesn't quite get E-3 files right in colorcast. Corey and I have been working on this for the better part of a year now with his E-3s and almost without exception Lightroom is "clinical" and uninviting as compared to either in-camera JPEGs or Capture One. Adobe usually gets the profiles right, but the E-3 profile has always been a point of contention with Olympus users. Capture One does the best job of keeping the "Olympus colors" alive of any third-party converter. It is not unusual for pros using the E-3 for portraiture to use RAW+JPEG and use the JPEG files whenever possible. Olympus has gone to great lengths getting the in-camera processing tweeked to a particular look. Lightroom, in particular, applies a less than ideal profile to the conversion. The term "third party" in regards to photography makes me think of cheep lenses. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:40:56 2009 Received: (qmail 30689 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:40:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:40:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9021C40F4A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEA7D0404A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9B234AC033 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:40:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1DC34AC031 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:40:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl34.gs02.gridserver.com (cl34.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.43]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50924 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl34.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LV7HT-0006eu-09 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:40:47 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:40:45 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] a proud moment Thread-Index: AcmHsH24vBrCdPOjEd2zcAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:40:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1698279671234514069 Richard, That's a great photo. I'm glad they paid you well too, so often businesses (including schools) want creatives to work for free despite our need for food and shelter that is the same as anyone else's needs. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/3/09 2:55 PM, "Richard Lovison" wrote: > It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot > of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the > motion blur of the students entering the main building. > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) > > Richard -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:43:05 2009 Received: (qmail 22509 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:43:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:43:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E8E43027C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:43:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0749E44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD7819EFFD for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:42:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F5219EFE7 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:42:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so132569anc.35 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:42:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.140.15 with SMTP id n15mr328278and.111.1233852174473; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:42:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:42:54 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8a2d570c26809fc9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:43:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1719283582070262475 > > > "A certified construction teacher, he has learned not to try to save > > the chain saw." > > However, he hasn't learned not to sit on the branch he's cutting off! > > Good grief. > I counted five OSHA violations without even trying. Some "certified construction teacher" he is. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:58:25 2009 Received: (qmail 9076 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:58:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8CD430233 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E844004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B2834AC03F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DBC34AC037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090205165817.TRUW6485.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:58:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:58:11 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:58:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1ab1261321585427447 I dunno. Do you suppose that's where the American "barking idiot" came from? I was advised of my gaff rather sharply by a British mystery writer some years ago when she told me to do something and I snapped a salute and said "Roger that!" --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > The rude four-letter word to which you refer isn't really an > insult, as we Brits would understand it (or say it), in the USA. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 17:59:52 2009 Received: (qmail 26047 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 16:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 16:59:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E9C43023B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AAD44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E3C19F0B7 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:59:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B8D19F0B1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:59:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090205165944.JBTY19709.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:59:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <285DA326-3180-4D83-8E8F-FB6454EACF5C@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:38 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 17:59:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1b08101911257536491 Perhaps AG's gone Zen on us and has discovered the truth of emptiness. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Timpe, Jim wrote: > Ken said: > > > To which I reply: > Pretty unimaginative if it is.... > Jim -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:03:58 2009 Received: (qmail 20468 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:03:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:03:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86E44301F3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212B344004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47D34AC037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:03:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B55734AC033 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:03:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:03:37 +0100 Received: from ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local (unknown [172.22.111.60]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD475D04 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:03:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498B1BE4.5030706@picturepedia.org> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:03:32 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:03:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1bfe306451023412894 nope it was a picture of a white cat in a snowstorm blinking ! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:08:59 2009 Received: (qmail 21703 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:08:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:08:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB06430278 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCF844004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F66219F0E2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:08:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A60619F11B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:08:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:08:57 +0100 Received: from ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local (unknown [172.22.111.60]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5151B5D04 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:08:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498B1D24.8090609@picturepedia.org> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:08:52 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <285DA326-3180-4D83-8E8F-FB6454EACF5C@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <285DA326-3180-4D83-8E8F-FB6454EACF5C@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:08:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1d2b176211023412894 nope it was a picture of a white cat in a snowstorm blinking ! sorry ignore my previous post right list wrong thread ;-) Bob Whitmire wrote: > Perhaps AG's gone Zen on us and has discovered the truth of emptiness. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Timpe, Jim wrote: > > >> Ken said: >> >> >> To which I reply: >> Pretty unimaginative if it is.... >> Jim >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:11:51 2009 Received: (qmail 29787 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:11:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:11:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148D043025A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A96544004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABE919F138 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:11:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E967319F129 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:11:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k57so307675rnd.13 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:11:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.10.15 with SMTP id n15mr359906wfi.268.1233853903956; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:11:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:11:43 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902050911o472de424h9779fa49b031446@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:11:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1dd7141491035110158 Judging from the disbelief, not to mention embarrassment, when I have tried to explain Hamlet's famous question to Ophelia ("Thought you I meant country matters?") in the clear, clinical light of the classroom, I would have to disagree with you, Chris. ;^) Joel W. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Unfortunately for your explanation, Andrew. The rude four-letter word > to which you refer isn't really an insult, as we Brits would > understand it (or say it), in the USA. > > Chris > > On 5 Feb 2009, at 13:22, Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> It's a piece of rhyming slang - for 'idiot'. >> I am pleased that Piers knows the origin tho' I'd expect no less. >> It refers to a dimwit 19th Century (?) celebrity of the name of >> Berkley Hunt. >> No further explanation forthcoming. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:13:04 2009 Received: (qmail 22395 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:13:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:13:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6BB430276 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2948A44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFF834AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:12:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA0234AC028 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:12:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f13.google.com (mail-ew0-f13.google.com [209.85.219.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so55720ewy.14 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.152.15 with SMTP id e15mr527256ebo.95.1233853815003; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:10:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:10:14 +0000 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] It's all gone a bit high-key over here. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:13:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1e20289081499373980 Won't last long - most of it's melted already. Seems to have kept many off the roads this morning though. Still, muggins here had booked a day off anyway and went out walking around the locale and one of the bigger parks around Bristol with an E-3 and a 14-54. Took a 50/2 and a 7-14, but didn't use the latter at all and the 50 only for a couple of shots. http://ian955.fotopic.net/c1649191.html You might like to compare some of these with similar shots in http://ian955.fotopic.net/c1488566.html and http://ian955.fotopic.net/c1488566.html which show some of the same scenery in Autumn and Spring. I am now officially annoyed with the inability of the E-3's eyecup to stay in place. It's still out there somewhere. -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:13:30 2009 Received: (qmail 17033 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:13:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6920E4302A6 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4BF44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88A519F16D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BF319F165 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-236.ucr.edu [138.23.208.236]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DYP05766 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <9F3B3652-F3E8-43E7-9E3D-F1FBBD774305@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:13:05 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:13:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b1e3a150221702588592 On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 > > Tom Love the reflection--is it on ice or water? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:27:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8788 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:27:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75456430267 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372B544004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A72534AC02B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:27:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5BE34AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:27:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so141386ywa.80 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:27:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.221.11 with SMTP id t11mr362787wfg.335.1233854853817; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:27:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902050808m3e834733mc9432f4a4e5ab4d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:27:33 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902050927tea12ff1tc16ec856ceb90abb@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:27:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b218d201711823421471 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Lightroom is also part of >> the stream as well and may be contributing its bits as well. >> > Ah, that makes sense. Lightroom doesn't quite get E-3 files right in > colorcast. Corey and I have been working on this for the better part of a > year now with his E-3s and almost without exception Lightroom is "clinical" > and uninviting as compared to either in-camera JPEGs or Capture One. The reason could be relatively simple. In camera auto WB is almost always warmer than Lightroom likes. I fare better when I stick with Daylight WB. The E-1 auto WB matches Daylight much more often than the E-3 does, and Lightroom Daylight is also a trifle cooler than I am used to.(closer to 5200 rather than 5300 or 5400 IIRC). But if you think jpg is the reference, I'll do my experiments shooting RAW +jpg. That's a great suggestion. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:30:01 2009 Received: (qmail 10130 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:30:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:30:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD730430267 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A42A44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E8334AC02A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:29:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674D34AC028 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:29:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LV82t-00054R-FW for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:29:47 +0000 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LV82t-0007fd-2g for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:29:47 +0000 Message-ID: <498B221D.50104@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:30:05 +0000 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] It's all gone a bit high-key over here. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:30:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b2219102917927319144 Ian Nichols wrote: > Won't last long - most of it's melted already. Seems to have kept > many off the roads this morning though. Och, that's just a frost! Pretty, though. D (no snow here, mate) -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:31:19 2009 Received: (qmail 6692 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:31:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:31:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CF9430233 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825AA44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7231E19EDA3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:31:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83919F26C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:31:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LV84B-00064u-6V for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:31:07 +0000 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LV84A-0008GM-8s for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:31:06 +0000 Message-ID: <498B226C.7030006@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:31:24 +0000 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <9e908c1f0902050911o472de424h9779fa49b031446@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050911o472de424h9779fa49b031446@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:31:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b226738082336821329 Joel Wilcox wrote: > Judging from the disbelief, not to mention embarrassment, when I have > tried to explain Hamlet's famous question to Ophelia ("Thought you I > meant country matters?") in the clear, clinical light of the > classroom, I would have to disagree with you, Chris. ;^) > > Joel W. > Yes, I recall delivering the line with considerable emphasis and relish. They have no control of you once you're out there... ;-) D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:50:41 2009 Received: (qmail 24499 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:50:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A12B430236 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3579444004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E97734AC032 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:50:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83AA34AC02D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:50:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f20.google.com (mail-gx0-f20.google.com [209.85.217.20]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by gxk13 with SMTP id 13so357285gxk.14 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:50:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.1.12 with SMTP id d12mr46727wfi.189.1233856214572; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:50:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498B221D.50104@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <498B221D.50104@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:50:14 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902050950t41b3e593lef7ee43ad1f11ff6@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] It's all gone a bit high-key over here. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:50:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b26f1326311946193717 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Donald wrote: > Ian Nichols wrote: >> Won't last long - most of it's melted already. Seems to have kept >> many off the roads this morning though. > > Och, that's just a frost! Pretty, though. > > D (no snow here, mate) I enjoyed those, Ian, especially towards the end where there was a bit of color here and there to provide a bit of a surprise. It's fun to see the different parts of your community -- the local baron's home, the monument to dogs, and stone bridges. Very nice stuff. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 18:57:52 2009 Received: (qmail 25593 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 17:57:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 17:57:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFFE430281 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B722544004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A980934AC02D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:57:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7B534AC029 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:57:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F38C731A5D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c510d) id dm0202.4981cde5.869f7a for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:57:43 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiyiXw1C2mgIAAAAB,c1b34bbe0076231f6f21bee0f595f24b Message-ID: <498B28A3.8020808@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:57:55 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090205-1, 02/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 18:57:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b28a045454673671140 Chris Crawford wrote: > Richard, > > That's a great photo. I'm glad they paid you well too, so often businesses > (including schools) want creatives to work for free despite our need for > food and shelter that is the same as anyone else's needs. Thanks Chris. Yes, the money does come in handy. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:00:40 2009 Received: (qmail 577 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:00:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:00:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1909430232 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037E344004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E092D19F43B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:00:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DC419F450 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:00:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A10731CF8 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:07:22 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0206 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c510d) id dm0206.4981ce0d.8697eb for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:00:05 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JiyklaWSpFQIAAAAB,ad5235698dfdfdc5f0a40b7fa79e27a3 Message-ID: <498B2931.2020804@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:00:17 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902050808m3e834733mc9432f4a4e5ab4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902050927tea12ff1tc16ec856ceb90abb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050927tea12ff1tc16ec856ceb90abb@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090205-1, 02/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:00:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b294853841838542571 Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> Ah, that makes sense. Lightroom doesn't quite get E-3 files right in >> colorcast. Corey and I have been working on this for the better part of a >> year now with his E-3s and almost without exception Lightroom is "clinical" >> and uninviting as compared to either in-camera JPEGs or Capture One. > > The reason could be relatively simple. In camera auto WB is almost > always warmer than Lightroom likes. I fare better when I stick with > Daylight WB. The E-1 auto WB matches Daylight much more often than > the E-3 does, and Lightroom Daylight is also a trifle cooler than I am > used to.(closer to 5200 rather than 5300 or 5400 IIRC). > > But if you think jpg is the reference, I'll do my experiments shooting > RAW +jpg. That's a great suggestion. Joel, Take a look at these presets for Lightroom if you haven't already. http://www.zs2.hu/csgzsfoto/technical/LRtemplates/ Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:10:29 2009 Received: (qmail 15789 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:10:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33CC430230 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6CF44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7D534AC073 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:10:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0DD3618017 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:09:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D232461649 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:28:10 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <06894274-CD02-4846-B980-060CD30A6D0C@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <200902051105.00214.doug9345@localnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:09:11 +0000 References: <200902050015.n150Fd4D025800@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> <200902051105.00214.doug9345@localnet.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] interesting story X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:10:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b2b95321551073733319 I'm starting to believe that you might be right ... Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 16:04, Doug wrote: > > There's a third possibility. If a video does show up on America's > Funny home > videos I'll believe that the whole thing was staged. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:11:10 2009 Received: (qmail 7740 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:11:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:11:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27937430285 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4069244004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326AC34AC04E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:11:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A9E34AC034 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:11:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:11:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92AB46165A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:30:01 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <73C382AC-ADA2-4466-A9B4-35D06DB6F408@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050803ga3d40e8veb1565ac14d00b7c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:11:03 +0000 References: <9e908c1f0902050803ga3d40e8veb1565ac14d00b7c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:11:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b2bbe271351234514069 Yes, I like that too. In particular the way the ice has masked the upper part of the reflection, leaving the calm foreground to do all the work. Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 16:03, Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Tom Fenwick > wrote: >> Everything is getting a bit picturesque around here but I can't >> help liking >> yesterday's new ones: >> >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877770 >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 > > I like that as a way of incorporating buildings into a landscape. > Well done. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:16:13 2009 Received: (qmail 1035 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:16:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DDE430252 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDAB44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719F634AC05B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:16:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B734E34AC05C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:16:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1BC4615EE for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:34:59 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <7E249265-CF7A-4805-BD2C-D1C607F3EB3D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:16:00 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] It's all gone a bit high-key over here. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:16:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b2ced35785368819438 Thanks, Ian. Those came out well. I fancy the snow-covered park with Lowry-esque people and the bridge with the red coat. Erm, my eyecup is still attached. But I have managed to lose a lens cap for my 12-60 (LC-72B). It took 3 weeks to get another one (plus spare) through Jacobs Digital. It seems that Olympus is pretty slow with small stuff. Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 17:10, Ian Nichols wrote: > Won't last long - most of it's melted already. Seems to have kept > many off the roads this morning though. Still, muggins here had > booked a day off anyway and went out walking around the locale and one > of the bigger parks around Bristol with an E-3 and a 14-54. Took a > 50/2 and a 7-14, but didn't use the latter at all and the 50 only for > a couple of shots. > > http://ian955.fotopic.net/c1649191.html > > You might like to compare some of these with similar shots in > > http://ian955.fotopic.net/c1488566.html > > and > > http://ian955.fotopic.net/c1488566.html > > which show some of the same scenery in Autumn and Spring. > > I am now officially annoyed with the inability of the E-3's eyecup to > stay in place. It's still out there somewhere. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:18:33 2009 Received: (qmail 6276 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:18:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4022430276 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A8F44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1319F53E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:18:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C8019F0DB for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:18:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:18:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B356146143D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:37:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:18:26 +0000 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:18:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b2d7987451529615919 In this country it's "barking mad", or just "barking". But some have been described as "Dorking", a place just up the line from Barking ... It took me a couple of seconds to work out the "roger that" one :-) Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 16:58, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I dunno. Do you suppose that's where the American "barking idiot" > came from? > > I was advised of my gaff rather sharply by a British mystery writer > some years ago when she told me to do something and I snapped a > salute and said "Roger that!" -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:20:13 2009 Received: (qmail 11274 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:20:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0745430229 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C6A44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24E234AC05E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3881234AC05C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7479461651 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:39:02 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <40C98620-A461-4DCC-A48E-A71343D5FE9D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050911o472de424h9779fa49b031446@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:20:04 +0000 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <9e908c1f0902050911o472de424h9779fa49b031446@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:20:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b2ddd23902046811720 Oh. Well that's the impression I gained while with a USAF squadron at MacDill AFB in the 80s. But then I was a furriner and it might have been lost in translation :-) Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 17:11, Joel Wilcox wrote: > Judging from the disbelief, not to mention embarrassment, when I have > tried to explain Hamlet's famous question to Ophelia ("Thought you I > meant country matters?") in the clear, clinical light of the > classroom, I would have to disagree with you, Chris. ;^) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:32:50 2009 Received: (qmail 19893 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:32:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:32:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6A04302A7 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4C144004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8733619F691 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:32:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E13119F685 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:32:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d3so86348nfc.20 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:32:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.105.2 with SMTP id d2mr585662ebc.67.1233858763017; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:32:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:32:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:32:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b30d29123675314703 2009/2/5 Chris Barker : > In this country it's "barking mad", or just "barking". But some have > been described as "Dorking", a place just up the line from Barking ... Is there another Dorking? Only one I know is in Surrey, just South of Leatherhead, West of Reigate and outside the M25. Barking is on the North bank of the Thames and a bit further East than the East End. -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:41:59 2009 Received: (qmail 4457 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:41:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C497D430233 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C809044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B022019F6D2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:41:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C36919F2C2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:41:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A0E3140D2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346B7314089 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498B32EF.80805@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:41:51 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:41:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b32f7323629117217770 > > at the point at which I photographed Ken (mid 40s)... Really! I'd wouldn't have thunk a day over 29. ;-) By the way Joel, the JAlbum page works much better for me. > but I just let Jalbum crunch the images this time in processing the web page. I size the images myself and tell JAlbum to not mess with them. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:43:14 2009 Received: (qmail 11968 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:43:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9310F43022B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3BF44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897D19F7C1 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2AA19F7C0 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.144]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so110047qwj.26 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:43:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.243.7 with SMTP id q7mr1211332qah.299.1233859386924; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:43:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:43:06 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 938fcee56d760196 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] It's all gone a bit high-key over here. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:43:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b3342127601744846740 Snork. You call THAT snow? ;) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:43:59 2009 Received: (qmail 10898 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:43:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5FB430285 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7673144004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1732634AC061 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA29D34AC064 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4963140D4 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2333140D2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:11:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498B335F.3090205@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:43:43 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090204-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Durn, gotta go on vacation. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:43:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b336f115309117217770 > > Because he's the protector of the mother tongue. .. Is the engine in the boot or the bonnet? Is it even an engine? As I mentioned before, I watch Coronation Street to brush up on the mother tongue. Subtitles on. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:51:16 2009 Received: (qmail 2752 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:51:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:51:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA214302CB for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E2644004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0FE19F805 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE1019F7FC for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so598711qyk.14 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:51:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.215.12.8 with SMTP id p8mr1255571qai.128.1233859865210; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:51:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498B32EF.80805@interisland.net> References: <498B32EF.80805@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:51:05 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d514d65e467597da Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:51:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b3524291951823421471 > > > at the point at which I photographed Ken (mid 40s)... > Really! I'd wouldn't have thunk a day over 29. ;-) > Low 40's thank you. At what point do you wish you were counting in Celsius? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 19:51:17 2009 Received: (qmail 17276 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 18:51:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 18:51:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893DE4302D4 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B976E44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB8F3610012 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16B434AC078 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:51:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD21461688 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:09:56 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <85DA1C79-D200-4B7D-AF4A-1880CE26408A@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:50:58 +0000 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 19:51:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b3525127951073733319 Trust someone to muck up a perfectly good story! :-) Actually, I thought that there was another one, south of London. Chris On 5 Feb 2009, at 18:32, Ian Nichols wrote: > Is there another Dorking? Only one I know is in Surrey, just South of > Leatherhead, West of Reigate and outside the M25. Barking is on the > North bank of the Thames and a bit further East than the East End. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 20:41:39 2009 Received: (qmail 17681 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 19:41:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 19:41:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A891143026C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2DE44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A641519F9EC for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:41:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1C119FA04 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:41:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f15.google.com (mail-ew0-f15.google.com [209.85.219.15]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so31363ewy.14 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:41:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.45.17 with SMTP id s17mr623335ebs.74.1233862705119; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 11:38:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <85DA1C79-D200-4B7D-AF4A-1880CE26408A@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> <85DA1C79-D200-4B7D-AF4A-1880CE26408A@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:38:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 20:41:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b40f3125791869477228 2009/2/5 Chris Barker : > Trust someone to muck up a perfectly good story! :-) > > Actually, I thought that there was another one, south of London. Never mind, you might have got away with it for a little while there - from a US perspective they look very close together ;) -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 21:02:27 2009 Received: (qmail 31045 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 20:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:02:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA9B43026C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8A044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7E419FAAA for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:02:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1ED19F9E9 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:02:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11642 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 20:02:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:02:14 -0000 In-Reply-To: <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <5EEF787D-7F68-4F74-B11A-2BEE6A6DDDE9@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:02:10 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 21:02:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b45d3127951073733319 I know, though oh how they need it. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/02/2009, at 2:12 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Unfortunately for your explanation, Andrew. The rude four-letter word > to which you refer isn't really an insult, as we Brits would > understand it (or say it), in the USA. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 21:09:53 2009 Received: (qmail 27808 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 20:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:09:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770F843025B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F292944004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE0919FB1D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F0019FB04 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so193030anc.35 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:09:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.167.15 with SMTP id u15mr482415wfo.147.1233864582196; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:09:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498B2931.2020804@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902050808m3e834733mc9432f4a4e5ab4d1@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902050927tea12ff1tc16ec856ceb90abb@mail.gmail.com> <498B2931.2020804@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:09:42 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902051209w3aeca212x3a4ffe2730975df6@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 21:09:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b4791308751073733319 On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Richard Lovison wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > >>> Ah, that makes sense. Lightroom doesn't quite get E-3 files right in >>> colorcast. Corey and I have been working on this for the better part of a >>> year now with his E-3s and almost without exception Lightroom is "clinical" >>> and uninviting as compared to either in-camera JPEGs or Capture One. >> >> The reason could be relatively simple. In camera auto WB is almost >> always warmer than Lightroom likes. I fare better when I stick with >> Daylight WB. The E-1 auto WB matches Daylight much more often than >> the E-3 does, and Lightroom Daylight is also a trifle cooler than I am >> used to.(closer to 5200 rather than 5300 or 5400 IIRC). >> >> But if you think jpg is the reference, I'll do my experiments shooting >> RAW +jpg. That's a great suggestion. > > Joel, > > Take a look at these presets for Lightroom if you haven't already. > > http://www.zs2.hu/csgzsfoto/technical/LRtemplates/ Thanks much, Richard. I wasn't aware of this site. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 21:12:23 2009 Received: (qmail 29832 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 20:12:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:12:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F7C430295 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475E344004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD1634AC096 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:12:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E5234AC097 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:12:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12244 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 20:12:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:12:12 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <2E657733-DD2A-4C66-8E55-CEA3F941463D@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:12:08 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 21:12:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b4827291831234514069 Indeed - but why were you carrying a gaff? In expectation of fish? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/02/2009, at 3:58 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I was advised of my gaff rather sharply by a British mystery writer > some years ago when she told me to do something and I snapped a > salute and said "Roger that!" -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 21:18:40 2009 Received: (qmail 9574 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 20:18:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:18:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAC24302AE for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9A444004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C51234AC097 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:17:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98BF34AC09A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:17:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13581 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 20:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:17:31 -0000 In-Reply-To: <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <41258E1A-DBB6-4A68-9EF7-1F8D7B7AA0B3@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:17:28 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 21:18:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b49a0323018512572685 And just around the corner from Bonking? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/02/2009, at 5:18 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > In this country it's "barking mad", or just "barking". But some have > been described as "Dorking", a place just up the line from Barking ... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 21:20:44 2009 Received: (qmail 5378 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 20:20:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:20:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BE84302CB for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C91E44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FCD34AC08E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:20:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A942234AC09D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:20:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13743 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 20:20:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:20:32 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <498B32EF.80805@interisland.net> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:20:28 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 21:20:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b4a1c266831073733319 We've got 40's coming up this weekend - you really, really are glad that you're not counting in Celsius, or even Centigrade. As a friend of mine commented yesterday, you can always pull on extra socks, but you can't get below nude. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/02/2009, at 5:51 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > Low 40's thank you. > > At what point do you wish you were counting in Celsius? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 21:23:48 2009 Received: (qmail 11735 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 20:23:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:23:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1722C430255 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8288044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBDC34AC08E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:23:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5CA34AC087 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:23:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13908 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2009 20:23:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 20:23:34 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> <85DA1C79-D200-4B7D-AF4A-1880CE26408A@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <691EB2C0-F4E0-4607-BC33-E273A56D01A2@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:23:30 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 21:23:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b4ad4296177350615338 And from an Australian perspective, they're pretty much the same place. Jeez, mate, you think Texas is big? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/02/2009, at 6:38 AM, Ian Nichols wrote: > Never mind, you might have got away with it for a little while there - > from a US perspective they look very close together ;) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:11:41 2009 Received: (qmail 16430 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:11:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:11:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAD543026A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078F744004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8D034AC08E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:11:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D23434AC09A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:11:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.249]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so433464rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.197.14 with SMTP id z14mr679776rvp.203.1233868290160; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm2827356rvf.1.2009.02.05.13.11.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:11:29 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7B2D79C5-B609-4F89-BFD8-0F45DE91ED1F@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:11:11 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:11:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b560d200458512572685 On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:05 AM, Tom Fenwick wrote: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 gorgeous photo! i wish that big houses in the back were not there, it would feed my need for bucolic landscapes, but i guess you can't have it all :) nico. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:12:53 2009 Received: (qmail 3588 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:12:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:12:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4239430242 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3954044004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288D234AC096 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:12:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0FC34AC09A for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:12:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.248]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so433927rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.100.15 with SMTP id c15mr699531rvm.52.1233868362323; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm2683rvb.0.2009.02.05.13.12.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:12:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: <4107F02C-C60D-489D-9F62-DF23263E41AD@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:12:24 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:12:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b5655258511073733319 nice photo :) and such a cute girl! nico. On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:39 AM, Nathan wrote: Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in the end. http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:13:40 2009 Received: (qmail 26590 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:13:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:13:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040A043023B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E725544004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D832234AC09C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:13:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959C134AC09D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:13:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.247]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so434152rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.141.16 with SMTP id o16mr688947rvd.138.1233868403299; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm2683rvb.0.2009.02.05.13.13.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:13:22 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <6AF00C6D-3AB1-4EC5-B913-823AC432DA35@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:13:06 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:13:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b568459821234514069 uh! someone else in (from?) italy!?!? nico. On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Ralf Loi wrote: If it were possible, I would send you tons of north italy rain - had probably the most rainier winter in a long time Ralf Loi -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:14:49 2009 Received: (qmail 29086 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:14:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5E6430285 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5087644004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4038234AC09D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:14:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0A234AC09B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:14:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m20.mx.aol.com (imo-m20.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c2f.4af59419 (30740) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:14:36 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:14:36 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . 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Central Standard Time, ralf_loi@it.ibm.com writes: If it were possible, I would send you tons of north italy rain - had probably the most rainier winter in a long time Ralf Loi -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:20:18 2009 Received: (qmail 2036 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:20:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:20:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD79430268 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B06A44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E9C19FCC6 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:20:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0BE19FCB7 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:20:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.240]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so436580rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.76.21 with SMTP id d21mr691457rvl.154.1233868811439; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? 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On Feb 5, 2009, at 6:45 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: Chuck, I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:31:20 2009 Received: (qmail 8824 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:31:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C914302A6 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9AE44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1588634AC09A for ; 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Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:31:11 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:31:11 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:31:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b5aa8149469347015869 > Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: > > But I suspect no one else even notices such things. > Some of us do ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:41:53 2009 Received: (qmail 5727 invoked by uid 0); 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Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n15LfgrC027989 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:41:43 +1100 Message-Id: <200902052141.n15LfgrC027989@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:41:42 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:41:42 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:41:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b5d21314131023412894 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > And for Tasmanians, Launceston - lawnstun. > Usually pronounced as "lonny" by the locals (Tasmanians). ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:47:24 2009 Received: (qmail 11711 invoked by uid 0); 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:47:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b5e6c115683675314703 > From: AFHEVG@nby.pbz > > Anybody have any ideas how I can get this crap off the bottom of my > emails? I note you're on AOL. Do you pay for this service? I would expect advertising attached to free email accounts (gmail, yahoo, etc.) but would not expect it if U was paying AOL for service. (And if you AREN'T paying for your email account, I think it's debatable who the leach is... :-) :::: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw :::: :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 22:58:23 2009 Received: (qmail 18435 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 21:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 21:58:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F60430285 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC1244004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9E819FD63 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C59B19FD64 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEC92B7F0FA for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v8FlUhnXgSgk for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BF92B7F0EA for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <17E2D4CA-7359-4047-A44C-F94758F4E840@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:58:07 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Mac Aperture and dual monitors - Jan or anyone else X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 22:58:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b60ff253081234514069 > From: Ian W > > For using aperture I have a dell 24" display for main and a HP 20" for > looking at the photos full screen, however I see a colour shift from > one > to the other, I can adjust the HP while using aperture however when I > leave aperture it looks totally false. I am successfully using two separate profiles with two monitors with Aperture 2.0. My secondary monitor doesn't look great, but that's because it's a nine-year-old CRT, and is slowly losing brightness. (My 20", $1,400 "palette monitor." :-) > It seems that macpro can't handle > two seperate monitor profiles in apps like aperture (I believe its the > same in lightroom). That would be strange indeed. I don't understand how a MacPro wouldn't handle separate monitor profiles -- sorta defeats the purpose, no? I've been using two monitors with separate profiles for what, nearly ten years now? I remember thinking how lovely it was in those days when it was a struggle to get a Windows machine to show *anything* on a second monitor, let alone something colour-accurate. Sorry I can't be of more help! :::: Our present economic system is... little more than a well- organized method for converting natural resources into garbage. -- Jay Hanson :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 23:02:52 2009 Received: (qmail 31493 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 22:02:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 22:02:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B651E430276 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D196844004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD80319FD76 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:02:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF8919FD73 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m11.mail.aol.com (imo-m11.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.99]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.bed.34ff5c9a (30740) for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:02:26 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:02:26 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 23:02:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b620c130641838542571 Yes, I'm paying and I've put a nice layer of salt on the leaches. Bill Barber In a message dated 2/5/2009 3:47:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, Jan@Bytesmiths.com writes: > From: AFHEVG@nby.pbz > > Anybody have any ideas how I can get this crap off the bottom of my > emails? I note you're on AOL. Do you pay for this service? I would expect advertising attached to free email accounts (gmail, yahoo, etc.) but would not expect it if U was paying AOL for service. (And if you AREN'T paying for your email account, I think it's debatable who the leach is... :-) :::: The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw :::: :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 23:14:37 2009 Received: (qmail 23507 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 22:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 22:14:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5E430295 for ; 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Who knew? Charlie On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > i want one! but i also want it to speak like in the geico commercial. > > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 6:45 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > > Chuck, > I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > Joel W. > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 23:35:39 2009 Received: (qmail 260 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 22:35:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 22:35:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7196A4302B5 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F191E44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE39B19FDF8 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:35:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314D619FDE8 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:35:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090205223530.DORX4139.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:35:30 -0500 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id CNbX1b0074Z9Gks02NbX97; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:35:31 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qmpe40poZpYA:10 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=hEDVGALd7Jq_OIMsEKsA:9 a=4J0Boy0v4ugzyDE8xjQA:7 a=8tD6OUm9zHJlsaXLBiwxq9X_XWEA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=iA6jqQkP7qMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <2FD419E4FDF44371AEAD269C126A0F90@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <6AF00C6D-3AB1-4EC5-B913-823AC432DA35@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:35:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 23:35:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b69bb174791993019900 Nico, I remember a trip to Tuscany in November. Not a mistake I"ll make again! Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicoletta Da Ros" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . > uh! someone else in (from?) italy!?!? > > nico. > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Ralf Loi wrote: > > If it were possible, I would send you tons of north italy rain - had > probably the most rainier winter in a long time > > Ralf Loi > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 02/04/09 08:24:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 23:39:58 2009 Received: (qmail 27992 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 22:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 22:39:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72554302CE for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C54644004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698CB19FDED for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FD019FE0B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.241]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so465895rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.157.5 with SMTP id f5mr749285rve.122.1233873590539; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm1673563rvb.5.2009.02.05.14.39.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0902051426s2e90af22vb4242905254f831c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> <38E0FBAC-FE73-4931-9E03-5317BDA58025@gmail.com> <14883a8b0902051426s2e90af22vb4242905254f831c@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <31EA0F78-DCD8-45AB-BA10-833CCE94E829@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:39:17 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Hawaiian gator (was "Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 23:39:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b6abe173271257536491 LOL, no, i'm in the US :) been for the past 5 1/2 yrs - and counting... nico. On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Charles Geilfuss wrote: You get Geico commercials in Italy? Who knew? Charlie On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > i want one! but i also want it to speak like in the geico commercial. > > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 6:45 AM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > > Chuck, > I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > Joel W. > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Feb 5 23:42:05 2009 Received: (qmail 8155 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2009 22:42:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Feb 2009 22:42:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC567430263 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCEB44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E24334AC097 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270134AC003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.247]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so466718rvb.50 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.122.20 with SMTP id z20mr737484rvm.216.1233873718301; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm1676858rvf.0.2009.02.05.14.41.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:41:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2FD419E4FDF44371AEAD269C126A0F90@SueHome> References: <6AF00C6D-3AB1-4EC5-B913-823AC432DA35@gmail.com> <2FD419E4FDF44371AEAD269C126A0F90@SueHome> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <73F15733-2F06-494B-90EC-4F0A9C568373@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:41:37 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Feb 5 23:42:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b6b3d179161234514069 oh! why is that? rainrainrain and fogfogfog? best time to visit is may/june or september, when the rush of tourists is not there yet/has left already. july and august are traditionally the months when stores, offices, firms and factories close for the summer (3/4 weeks each) so locals are around as well. nico. On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Sue Pearce wrote: Nico, I remember a trip to Tuscany in November. Not a mistake I"ll make again! Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicoletta Da Ros" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . > uh! someone else in (from?) italy!?!? > > nico. > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Ralf Loi wrote: > > If it were possible, I would send you tons of north italy rain - had > probably the most rainier winter in a long time > > Ralf Loi > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 02/04/09 08:24:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 03:22:39 2009 Received: (qmail 20520 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 02:22:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 02:22:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F694303CB for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6300844004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432D634AC02D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E45434AC006 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27358 invoked by uid 504); 6 Feb 2009 02:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 02:22:24 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090205211255.01145db0@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:14:37 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) off-topic; Godalming snow photo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 03:22:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b9eef129531342116753 At 05:53 PM 2/3/2009, Brian wrote: >Hi all > >http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=323417&l=4efb7&id=1027725807 > >Image on loan from my cousin Imogen; taken when she walked to work. >She wrote that the snow came up to her knee; didn't say which knee or if the >other knee was similarly afflicted :-)) > >I think it is a great photo. me also. I like the mood. You can feel the heavy sky even. Nice. Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 03:22:39 2009 Received: (qmail 19055 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 02:22:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 02:22:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0E343031D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977FC44004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867911CD490 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC441CD486 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27408 invoked by uid 504); 6 Feb 2009 02:22:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@98.118.121.81) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 02:22:26 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090205211444.022f8420@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:22:23 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <49869FC9.5156.C7022A@bj.caverock.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) Off-topic: Re: 1TB drives now under $100 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 03:22:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b9eef261581702588592 At 01:24 PM 2/1/2009, Brian wrote: > > >Remember this? >http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~razzle/Obsession_617/obsession_617.html > >It should arrive in Melbourne this week, if it has not arrived already. >Recycling, again :-)) > >And I have just bought a Koni-Omega 180 f/4 lens on the Bay, and sent one >of my KOM bodies to Greg Weber in Fremont NE for servicing. >More recycling ... I don't remember, perhaps it was during my absence. But that looks very cool. Maybe you can get Peter Lik's Vegas shop to print some results when you have them. :-) Please keep us informed how this works out. I think some computer upgrade may be in order to deal with the images. Do you plan to scan the results? any plans along what you want to do with the resulting images? I'm curious for myself as well. WayneS -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 03:24:32 2009 Received: (qmail 12034 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 02:24:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 02:24:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85963430329 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2701344004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004191CD48C for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:24:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FB31CD486 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:24:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8207 invoked by uid 504); 6 Feb 2009 02:24:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@64.16.191.97) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 02:24:23 -0000 Message-ID: <498B9F55.4040309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:24:21 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Hawaiian gator (was "Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 03:24:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498b9f60128551946193717 How long does it take them to grow teeth? Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > Chuck, > I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: > > http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html > > Joel W. > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Chuck Norcutt > wrote: >> Much of a cypress swamp is rather shallow water (often just 6-18" deep) >> and pretty densely covered with vegetation. Not suitable for gators who >> like deeper and more open water. You're not likely to see a gator in >> the swamp until the water opens out into deeper, open space often >> created by the gator himself and referred to as a "gator hole". As the >> swamp dries up in the dry season (now) the small fish and other water >> loving critters get forced into the hole as the only place where there >> may be water. The gator eats well then until his hole dries up. I >> won't likely see a gator unless I venture out into the hole or the area >> around the hole which I'm not likely to do... at least with just a 28mm >> lens. I might be under water by that time too. Might be 6 or 8 foot >> deep out there. >> >> Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 04:46:29 2009 Received: (qmail 16448 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 03:46:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 03:46:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EFE43032F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE4344004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E151CD490 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FDC1CD48F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so602329wfg.26 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:46:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.139.14 with SMTP id m14mr699761wfd.253.1233891980145; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:46:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498B9F55.4040309@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0902050645y503beca0rf919cabfc28f1563@mail.gmail.com> <498B9F55.4040309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:46:20 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902051946v39418249s2589ba9c97c5ff99@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Hawaiian gator (was "Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 04:46:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498bb295164551993019900 Dunno but whatever they've got takes care of roaches! Joel W. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > How long does it take them to grow teeth? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> Chuck, >> I put a Hawaiian gator on my homepage for your inspiration: >> >> http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 08:04:44 2009 Received: (qmail 17779 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 07:04:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 07:04:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8514304C3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8C744004F for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA6219FF8E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:04:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8749019FF89 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:04:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:04:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from 62-87-46-68.red-acceso.airtel.net ([62.87.46.68]:49163) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LVKlJ-0008VB-IB (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:04:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498ADAD4.2030305@chucknorcutt.com> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> <498ADAD4.2030305@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <39838848-E7E6-4EE0-98B1-930C276FEB98@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:04:25 +0100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 08:04:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498be10c16349347015869 Thanks Chuck (and others) Yes, the lines I could have done without, but the way my office is arranged, there was no other good spot for them to be. So I decided that I would rather have a picture with the lines than no picture. Photoshopping them out is against my self-imposed digital code of conduct. Cheers, Nathan On 05/02/2009, at 13:25, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Very nice and the softness is fine in a portrait. However, you have > violated one of the portraitist's commandments. Thou shalt not have > prominent background lines emanating from the subject's head. > Fine, of > course, for a snapshot but, were it mine, I'd have the clone tool > working them out. But I suspect no one else even notices such things. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Nathan wrote: >> Charo is the youngest member of my team at work. I have shown her >> before. Recently I saw her oldest daughter for the first time and was >> struck by how the little girl was a veritable copy of Charo. So the >> other day, when she had her in the office in the afternoon, I took a >> quick portrait. It was the little girl's 4th birthday, and while she >> was willing to pose for Mum's boss, she just wanted to get it over >> with so they could go home to celebrate her birthday. So the >> background is just a boring office wall, and the light is an ugly >> combination of window and fluorescent overhead light--but that's what >> B&W is for :-) Shot with the 50mm Summilux at f1.4. There is bit of >> softness, but both I and Charo like it, and that's what matters in >> the end. >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#467986422_WdCfw-O-LB >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:13:47 2009 Received: (qmail 21897 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:13:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC06C430098 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE19BD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9089F34AC02B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:13:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE85934AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:13:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n16ADYcd031085 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:13:35 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:13:28 +1100 Message-ID: <000601c98843$8f2235a0$ad66a0e0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmGOV98kQBOzLQER9af6ca11LKDRgCCd+zg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:13:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c0d5b215203675314703 Congratulations on getting published (and paid !) The school has quite an attractive web site, they can obviously pay to get the right results. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ It's not too often I can share good news of my work with the rest of you. I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife works for a month ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques given to the major donors of their new athletic center (what I would have given to go to this school when I was a teenager). The web folks loved the night shot of the building so much that they included it in the main page banner (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the one that looks like a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm at 14mm, 5 secs, f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched together to create the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the one with the motion blur of the students entering the main building. They paid me well... I'm happy. :) Richard -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:16:58 2009 Received: (qmail 24182 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:16:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:16:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698FC430177 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F46D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638A919DD6F for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:16:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8F219DD3F for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:16:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n16AGjY7028905 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:16:51 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <498981B8.21489.9EA16F@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:16:39 +1100 Message-ID: <000701c98844$03bc3730$0b34a590$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmGUkWbHTfkWv/gTCmXBbBeMGkVRAB8W3Mw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) off-topic; Godalming snow photo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:16:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c0e1a263537350615338 Excellent shot, great rendering of the detail in the spire. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=323417&l=4efb7&id=1027725807 Image on loan from my cousin Imogen; taken when she walked to work. She wrote that the snow came up to her knee; didn't say which knee or if the other knee was similarly afflicted :-)) I think it is a great photo. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:25:27 2009 Received: (qmail 19711 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:25:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6619F43008B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986C8D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B3019DD89 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:25:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001219DD80 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:25:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5191 invoked by uid 502); 6 Feb 2009 10:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.173.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 10:25:19 -0000 Message-ID: <498C1008.1050507@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:25:12 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: [OM] eSATA speed [was Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:25:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c1017312471257536491 C.H.Ling wrote: > I will not put all my trust to one test program as I don't know how it was wrote, if you only read or write a small file you will not see the truth. My Pinnacle Studio reported the R/W speed of my SATA drive as 39.6/29.8MB (ok, it is an old drive) and the USB drive as 29.5/25MB. > > Why not simply copy a folder full of files and compare the result? It is how I use my backup drives. > OK. My backup drive arrived. I installed it today. I copied 527,945,113,600 bytes from one Seagate 1.5TB drive in the computer, attached to the MB STAT header to an empty, identical drive mounted in the eSATA docking station. Time to copy it all using SyncBack was 1:34:51, = 5691 sec. That's 92.8MB/sec., in marketing megabytes. However you look at it, it's LOTS faster than USB 2.0 HSE. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:43:15 2009 Received: (qmail 20643 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:43:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:43:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AED430099 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EF9D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283BC19DD9A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:43:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9262719DBC1 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:43:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n16Ah6QA021285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:43:07 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031647j7c283b10h70634c54d9c28425@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:43:00 +1100 Message-ID: <000801c98847$aefbc180$0cf34480$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmGYjyyyiV1IWCBSAmegtWEHXzo3gB5SvqQ Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:43:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c1443243921838542571 Excellent collection, only just got around to having a close look. I particularly like "doorway, abandoned store..." ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ OK, I've been busy and got my real so-called web site updated to include my take-aways from the Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest (with eagles!) last weekend: http://myweb.uiowa.edu/jfwilcox/index.html (Psst! a self-portrait of sorts and a study of Dr. 3Ti may be found herein!) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:47:10 2009 Received: (qmail 5626 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:47:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:47:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0524343009D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E593ED0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92C034AC029 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6290734AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so750545wfg.26 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.214.11 with SMTP id m11mr105849wfg.57.1233917224097; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-220-35.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.220.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm3604508wfd.46.2009.02.06.02.47.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:47:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:46:54 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:47:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c152e106771023412894 The latest photo on Chris Crawford's blog is another one I particularly like, and so I felt the need to pass it on to the Olympus list: http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com/?p=153 Not bad, hey? Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:47:33 2009 Received: (qmail 4814 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:47:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C75430190 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E5FD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134DE34AC029 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4114C34AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n16AlIJk003252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:47:20 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:47:12 +1100 Message-ID: <000901c98848$45f0ed90$d1d2c8b0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmHcPaXW29l9zxfQ9SVDSvWU36f8AA1y06g Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] More Leeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:47:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c154564711993019900 Yeah, it pays to get out in the cold - nice shots ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Everything is getting a bit picturesque around here but I can't help liking yesterday's new ones: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877770 http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/108877589 Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:50:54 2009 Received: (qmail 1971 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:50:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:50:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8164301F1 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04394D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E511F34AC033 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3758B34AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n16Aojxa026628 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:50:46 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> <9f07ac840902050202i25cae518te775ba57ad627351@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:50:39 +1100 Message-ID: <000a01c98848$c0d1fd60$4275f820$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmHecMNIB1PuU6AQY2BW7rSuVAldQAzrKcg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:50:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c160e17371529615919 I'd never seen black sesame seeds before, but was watching a cooking program on TV earlier tonight and actually saw some being used. Do they taste any different than the "normal" ones ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Thanks Jez, but MY TEBIRKES WERE NOT BURNT--they just look like that because of the black sesame seeds. So there :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 11:51:22 2009 Received: (qmail 32372 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 10:51:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 10:51:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8FA430206 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84629D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C0819DBBF for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:51:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB83A19DE88 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:51:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 02:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17802 invoked by uid 502); 6 Feb 2009 10:51:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.175.163) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 10:51:14 -0000 Message-ID: <498C1614.4060309@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:51:00 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> <498C1008.1050507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498C1008.1050507@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] eSATA speed [was Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 11:51:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c162a69721234514069 Oops, that's SATA, not STAT. While I'm at it again, in 1,048,576 byte MBs, that's 88.5MB/sec. Looks like what I said from the HDTune tests earlier in this thread was pretty accurate: "So at least for read speed, the 5x raw spec is optimistic for this drive. On the other hand, 85.4/27.2 is still 3x. To date, I've only filled part of the 1.5Tb drive, so I am still seeing something like the 90 MB/sec part of the curve." Yup, right around 90MB/sec., depending on he size of the megabytes. Moose wrote: > > OK. My backup drive arrived. I installed it today. I copied 527,945,113,600 bytes from one Seagate 1.5TB drive in the computer, attached to the MB STAT header to an empty, identical drive mounted in > the eSATA docking station. Time to copy it all using SyncBack was > 1:34:51, = 5691 sec. > > That's 92.8MB/sec., in marketing megabytes. However you look at it, it's > LOTS faster than USB 2.0 HSE. > > Moose > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 13:41:26 2009 Received: (qmail 15509 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 12:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 12:41:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C324303F5 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFD3D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2037634AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:41:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CAE34AC029 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:41:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n16CfCnZ014981 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:41:13 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <01EA107772B84F31AB0E52EB58885FEA@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> <498C1008.1050507@gmail.com> <498C1614.4060309@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:41:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] eSATA speed [was Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 13:41:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c2ff619501234514069 Ok, I have overlooked the fast change in HD technology, two years ago many 3.5" 7200rmp drives was still top at 40-50MB/s sustain rate. Now the 1.5T HD is up to 120MB/s, this really makes a big difference when comparing SATA and USB interface. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" > Oops, that's SATA, not STAT. > > While I'm at it again, in 1,048,576 byte MBs, that's 88.5MB/sec. > > Looks like what I said from the HDTune tests earlier in this thread was > pretty accurate: > > "So at least for read speed, the 5x raw spec is optimistic for this > drive. On the other hand, 85.4/27.2 is still 3x. To date, I've only > filled part of the 1.5Tb drive, so I am still seeing something like the > 90 MB/sec part of the curve." > > Yup, right around 90MB/sec., depending on he size of the megabytes. > > > Moose wrote: >> >> OK. My backup drive arrived. I installed it today. I copied >> 527,945,113,600 bytes from one Seagate 1.5TB drive in the computer, >> attached to the MB STAT header to an empty, identical drive mounted in >> the eSATA docking station. Time to copy it all using SyncBack was >> 1:34:51, = 5691 sec. >> >> That's 92.8MB/sec., in marketing megabytes. However you look at it, it's >> LOTS faster than USB 2.0 HSE. >> >> Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 13:50:11 2009 Received: (qmail 7613 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 12:50:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 12:50:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1143048E for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FADD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2009019E272 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:50:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8E619E264 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:50:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27286 invoked by uid 504); 6 Feb 2009 12:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.61?) (chucknorcutt@64.16.191.97) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 12:50:02 -0000 Message-ID: <498C31F8.9010005@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:50:00 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498773F4.6060006@gmail.com> <49882B2A.8040600@gmail.com> <498C1008.1050507@gmail.com> <498C1614.4060309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498C1614.4060309@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] eSATA speed [was Western Digital My Passport Essential USB 2.0-Powered External Drives] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 13:50:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c320371582046811720 I used to have one of these in my machine room and used to be impressed with the 3 MBS transfer rate but not so much with the 5 MB capacity. I don't recall the price but I think it was a multi-million dollar machine. Absolutely required though for fast virtual storage. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Oops, that's SATA, not STAT. > > While I'm at it again, in 1,048,576 byte MBs, that's 88.5MB/sec. > > Looks like what I said from the HDTune tests earlier in this thread was > pretty accurate: > > "So at least for read speed, the 5x raw spec is optimistic for this > drive. On the other hand, 85.4/27.2 is still 3x. To date, I've only > filled part of the 1.5Tb drive, so I am still seeing something like the > 90 MB/sec part of the curve." > > Yup, right around 90MB/sec., depending on he size of the megabytes. > > > Moose wrote: >> OK. My backup drive arrived. I installed it today. I copied 527,945,113,600 bytes from one Seagate 1.5TB drive in the computer, attached to the MB STAT header to an empty, identical drive mounted in >> the eSATA docking station. Time to copy it all using SyncBack was >> 1:34:51, = 5691 sec. >> >> That's 92.8MB/sec., in marketing megabytes. However you look at it, it's >> LOTS faster than USB 2.0 HSE. >> >> Moose >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 14:21:31 2009 Received: (qmail 955 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 13:21:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 13:21:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C834303F6 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097F4D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E2834AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:21:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DC334AC029 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:21:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [77.208.128.50] (port=49416) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LVQdy-0005mP-ET (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:21:20 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <000a01c98848$c0d1fd60$4275f820$@com.au> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> <9f07ac840902050202i25cae518te775ba57ad627351@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c98848$c0d1fd60$4275f820$@com.au> Message-Id: From: Nathan Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:21:13 +0100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Sesame seeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 14:21:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c395b110841499373980 Not really, to me they tasted more or less like the regular ones. Cheers, Nathan On 06/02/2009, at 11:50, Wayne Harridge wrote: > I'd never seen black sesame seeds before, but was watching a > cooking program > on TV earlier tonight and actually saw some being used. Do they > taste any > different than the "normal" ones ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > > > Thanks Jez, but MY TEBIRKES WERE NOT BURNT--they just look like that > because of the black sesame seeds. > > So there :-) > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 14:49:44 2009 Received: (qmail 14239 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 13:49:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 13:49:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCA5430421 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A9AD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA3519E4A7 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE80619E4A6 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090206134936.ONNG6485.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:49:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <5828F468-A354-4F7E-A978-78808DB0F2FF@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:49:26 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 14:49:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c3ff856702070262475 I'd think after spending time on this side of the pond blasting around in fighter jets you'd have heard "Roger That" more than once. And it's mate, "Roger Wilco." Must have wondered who that Wilco person was getting Rogered all the time. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > It took me a couple of seconds to work out the "roger that" one :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 14:54:24 2009 Received: (qmail 20050 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 13:54:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 13:54:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233B9430402 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A41DD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF3134AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:54:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED5834AC02D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:54:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090206135417.JPPE22988.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:54:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <2E657733-DD2A-4C66-8E55-CEA3F941463D@people.net.au> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <2E657733-DD2A-4C66-8E55-CEA3F941463D@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <1CBE3ECC-F45D-4FAF-AD92-DFDCE45898E8@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:54:07 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 14:54:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c411015694673671140 Smart ass! For lack of an "e" I'm in the pillory. --Bob Whitmire "Art's just fart without the eff." www.bwp33.com On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Indeed - but why were you carrying a gaff? In expectation of fish? > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 15:12:18 2009 Received: (qmail 21460 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 14:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 14:12:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2E8430425 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5425D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB1119E505 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:12:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095CE19E4FD for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:12:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1EFC976B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:33:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <390F52D8-0F63-4AD3-BCF2-BE85265E6835@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <5828F468-A354-4F7E-A978-78808DB0F2FF@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:12:08 +0000 References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <92C948E2-FC3F-46B1-AD46-7C4BFC2D06FB@threeshoes.net> <5828F468-A354-4F7E-A978-78808DB0F2FF@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 15:12:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c454274991823421471 :-) They must have been banged up together ... But to say Roger and Wilco together is something of a tautology. Chris On 6 Feb 2009, at 13:49, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I'd think after spending time on this side of the pond blasting > around in fighter jets you'd have heard "Roger That" more than once. > And it's mate, "Roger Wilco." Must have wondered who that Wilco > person was getting Rogered all the time. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 15:34:22 2009 Received: (qmail 20015 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 14:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 14:34:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F2A430225 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0E4D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AB234AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF21834AC029 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0111.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0111.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8632674EF2C for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:44:25 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d5629) id dm0202.4981cde5.964377 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:34:11 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JjEpjzXA29gIAAAAB,6ba285828414ac410d9bb8378304f439 Message-ID: <498C4A71.8030506@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:34:25 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090205-1, 02/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 15:34:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c4a6e101831993019900 Marc Lawrence wrote: > The latest photo on Chris Crawford's blog is another one I particularly > like, and so I felt the need to pass it on to the Olympus list: > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com/?p=153 > > Not bad, hey? Very nice as are many of the other images on his site. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 15:46:12 2009 Received: (qmail 9971 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 14:46:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 14:46:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B755C430437 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC608D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE1119E702 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B46219E6FE for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.181]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so506479ele.8 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:46:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.88.4 with SMTP id l4mr975987wfb.112.1233931565245; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:46:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <39838848-E7E6-4EE0-98B1-930C276FEB98@frozenlight.eu> References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> <498ADAD4.2030305@chucknorcutt.com> <39838848-E7E6-4EE0-98B1-930C276FEB98@frozenlight.eu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:46:05 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902060646q108afb9fhf8626790bb2a49c1@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 03/02/2009: mother and child X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 15:46:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c4d34243629117217770 On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Nathan wrote: > Thanks Chuck (and others) > > Yes, the lines I could have done without, but the way my office is > arranged, there was no other good spot for them to be. So I decided > that I would rather have a picture with the lines than no picture. Hurrah! > Photoshopping them out is against my self-imposed digital code of > conduct. Double hurrah!! (Just say NO to cloning ...) Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 15:57:51 2009 Received: (qmail 28854 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 14:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 14:57:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65E04303F5 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B43D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3732D19E7AD for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:57:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A366119E78A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:57:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so346557anc.35 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:57:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.209.5 with SMTP id h5mr1005817ang.79.1233932260870; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:57:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <66711CC0-0068-4974-8CEE-50B8D83F5689@frozenlight.eu> <9f07ac840902050202i25cae518te775ba57ad627351@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c98848$c0d1fd60$4275f820$@com.au> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:57:40 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ae61f11c8ac0b4f Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Sesame seeds X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 15:57:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c4fef68661470116606 When I was growing up, "Sesame Seed" was my favorite television show. 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(75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm2840469rvb.3.2009.02.06.07.45.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:45:01 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> References: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:44:42 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 16:45:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c5b0984977350615338 nope, not bad at all - thanks for passing it on. nico. On Feb 6, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Marc Lawrence wrote: The latest photo on Chris Crawford's blog is another one I particularly like, and so I felt the need to pass it on to the Olympus list: http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com/?p=153 Not bad, hey? Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 17:25:20 2009 Received: (qmail 11847 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 16:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 16:25:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B513D4303F6 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEECD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EC7361000D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:25:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66BC361000C for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:25:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ralf_loi@it.ibm.com whitelisted) Received: from mtagate6.de.ibm.com (mtagate6.de.ibm.com [195.212.29.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.167.49]) by mtagate6.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n16GOFwP376786 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:24:15 GMT Received: from d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.165.216]) by d12nrmr1607.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.1) with ESMTP id n16GOFpk3408092 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:24:15 +0100 Received: from d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n16GOEZt001638 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:24:14 +0100 Received: from d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com (d12ml401.megacenter.de.ibm.com [9.149.166.154]) by d12av05.megacenter.de.ibm.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n16GOEB1001633 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:24:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6AF00C6D-3AB1-4EC5-B913-823AC432DA35@gmail.com> X-Disclaimed: 28170 To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 From: Ralf Loi X-MIMETrack: S/MIME Sign by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 06/02/2009 17.24.13, Serialize by Notes Client on Ralf Loi/Italy/IBM(Release 7.0 HF277|June 21, 2006) at 06/02/2009 17.24.13, Serialize complete at 06/02/2009 17.24.13, S/MIME Sign failed at 06/02/2009 17.24.13: The cryptographic key was not found, Serialize by Router on D12ML401/12/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 06/02/2009 17:24:14, Serialize complete at 06/02/2009 17:24:14 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:24:13 +0100 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 17:25:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c646f207721591313764 << uh! someone else in (from?) italy!?!? nico. >> Yes, I live near Milan. I'm a loooooog time user here but post rarely. ... and I only have OM gear ... Ralf PS Still raining -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 17:41:58 2009 Received: (qmail 11503 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 16:41:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 16:41:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E6E430466 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B686D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB3819EE30 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:41:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9692A19EE06 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:41:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 08:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c6a.49d179eb (32913) for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:41:49 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:41:49 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of weather . . . X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 17:41:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c6856253603675314703 My forecast for Monday and Tuesday is: Isolated Thunder-storms. I'm not sure what that means, however a friend says it means it will rain someplace other than at your house. Oh well, the tank truck is bring 4200 gallons on Saturday. I'll try to get an OM picture of it. Bill Barber In a message dated 2/6/2009 10:25:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, ralf_loi@it.ibm.com writes: Yes, I live near Milan. I'm a loooooog time user here but post rarely. ... and I only have OM gear ... Ralf PS Still raining -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 18:19:04 2009 Received: (qmail 9043 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 17:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 17:19:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A86A1C40F57 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2A5D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD923610007 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8F73610006 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172532B86FF7 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5KInP8hnPpWA for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8552B86FE7 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <0FF89AD6-547F-486C-B8E8-5E61DF280C73@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:18:44 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 18:19:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c7108293411234514069 > From: Bob Whitmire > > When you start > taking an E-1 file large, to, say, 16x20, IMHO, Genuine Fractals > takes a very slight edge, but you really have to be looking for it. Yea, but try taking it to 24x36! That's where GF really shines. :::: Being human being isn't being human. Are we human beings, or humans, being? :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 18:20:34 2009 Received: (qmail 12741 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 17:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 17:20:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D802430488 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239DAD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FE219F06C for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B5E19F06A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39B62B8702A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gZigh5L+-1KR for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E40E2B87015 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <83D31C59-8B64-4C9D-912E-A62BC6E7154D@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:20:20 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 18:20:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c716267854673671140 > From: Ken Norton > > > > Only in your own mind. :::: "Primitive skills" are trivial to learn, compared to getting along with each other! It's not hard to make a stone axe -- what's hard is not using it on your neighbor! :::: :::: Jan Steinman, http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 18:30:35 2009 Received: (qmail 10977 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 17:30:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 17:30:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B543041A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A94D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5803919F136 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE8819F12B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E21B2B87153 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10ZVowg18NBM for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E661C2B8713F for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5C054649-C659-48EB-B2A1-1CC83819646B@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:08 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Aggrevating leaches on my emails! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 18:30:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c73bb102071234514069 > From: AFHEVG@nby.pbz > > Yes, I'm paying and I've put a nice layer of salt on the leaches. Yes, I see. Digest mode keeps me slow on the draw. I should read the entire digest before replying! I can see why you're aggravated, since you're paying for the service. Sorta like getting little ads in with your hydro or phone bill. :::: You know what? What makes our economy grow is energy. And Americans are used to going to the gas tank (sic), and when they put that hose in their, uh, tank, and when I do it, I wanna get gas out of it. And when I turn the light switch on, I want the lights to go on, and I don't want somebody to tell me I gotta change my way of living to satisfy them. Because this is America, and this is something we've worked our way into, and the American people are entitled to it, and if we're going improve (sic) our standard of living, you have to consume more energy. -- Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA) :::: :::: Jan Steinman, http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 19:21:55 2009 Received: (qmail 25045 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 18:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 18:21:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B480D43046A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B590D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4945219F4D4 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:21:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACBA19F4C4 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:21:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so392024anc.35 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:21:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.209.5 with SMTP id h5mr1246953ang.79.1233944506803; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:21:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83D31C59-8B64-4C9D-912E-A62BC6E7154D@Bytesmiths.com> References: <83D31C59-8B64-4C9D-912E-A62BC6E7154D@Bytesmiths.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:21:46 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 128eadb6dff0d3e5 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 19:21:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498c7fc3267631823421471 The "Voices" have spoken -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 22:30:19 2009 Received: (qmail 8659 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 21:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 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06 Feb 2009 16:30:09 -0500 Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.1.20090206162831.01b90860@erols.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:30:06 -0500 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net From: Stephen Troy Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Cheap M-1 bodies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 22:30:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cabeb43161234514069 If anyone would like a cheap M-1 body for their collection, KEH has two "bargain" bodies on their web site M1 CHROME (ORIGINAL OM1) WITHOUT SHOE 35MM SLR MANUAL FOCUS CAMERA BODY Product Specs OM020090336450 Grade Now Was BGN $299.00 $325.00 Olympus M1 CHROME (ORIGINAL OM1) WITHOUT SHOE METER INOPERATIVE 35MM SLR MANUAL FOCUS CAMERA BODY Product Specs OM02009033645L Grade Now Was BGN $245.00 $265.00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 22:33:19 2009 Received: (qmail 14120 invoked by uid 0); 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I shot that with my Hasselblad, but I have some new OM photos in progress too. I've got 75 rolls of film waiting to have images scanned from them. I just scanned some 35mm stuff that is all OM. Hope to have it online soon. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/6/09 5:46 AM, "Marc Lawrence" wrote: > The latest photo on Chris Crawford's blog is another one I particularly > like, and so I felt the need to pass it on to the Olympus list: > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com/?p=153 > > Not bad, hey? > > Cheers, > Marc > Noosa Heads, Oz > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 22:41:41 2009 Received: (qmail 30485 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 21:41:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 21:41:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BEF430501 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF355D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82E119FFCA for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD6319FDCE for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13869 invoked by uid 502); 6 Feb 2009 21:41:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.206.99) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Feb 2009 21:41:32 -0000 Message-ID: <498CAE83.5090501@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:41:23 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <285DA326-3180-4D83-8E8F-FB6454EACF5C@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <285DA326-3180-4D83-8E8F-FB6454EACF5C@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 22:41:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cae95237261702588592 Bob Whitmire wrote: > Perhaps AG's gone Zen on us and has discovered the truth of emptiness. > Discovering the emptiness of Truth is an important step for many. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 22:50:55 2009 Received: (qmail 9219 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 21:50:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 21:50:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB0F4304A3 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE5FD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C232334AC02F for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B08334AC02D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id E4C2657ATB for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:47 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:50:31 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <498CAE83.5090501@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. Thread-Index: AcmIo7O0DwzZR1+MSnOPuUfRxD7EpgAAHzVw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2009 21:50:47.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[F86013F0:01C988A4] Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 22:50:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cb0bf150985368819438 >Moose >Discovering the emptiness of Truth is an important step for many. :-) Evidently most politicians have attained this step and moved on. Hey, Chris (Barker); Haven't heard your take on the Hudson splash down of a couple weeks ago. I've heard pilots express opinions all over the map, from "any seasoned, skilled pilot could have done that" to "nothing short of miraculous". I guess my thought is that if it were really as easy as the first group would have us believe, there would be far more successful water landings on record. As I understand it, the number is quite miniscule. Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. 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(VPS 090206-0, 02/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 22:51:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cb0f2130403675314703 Wayne Harridge wrote: > Congratulations on getting published (and paid !) > > The school has quite an attractive web site, they can obviously pay to get > the right results. Thanks Wayne. It felt good to have my work appreciated and the school was very generous in payment and gratitude for this project as for the one that preceded it. I hope the majority of my clients in the future treat me this well. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 23:10:08 2009 Received: (qmail 10169 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 22:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 22:10:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D91A43057B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE998D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09BA1A0065 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8261A005B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from heliar (d58-104-126-247.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [58.104.126.247]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n16M9vri024333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:09:59 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:09:50 +1100 Message-ID: <000301c988a7$a2706280$e7512780$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmIon4xvOQgjvSVEd2dfAAKlchBUgABQAdg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 23:10:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cb540254281585427447 That Hasselblad makes great photos Chris ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ Thanks! I shot that with my Hasselblad, -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 23:33:17 2009 Received: (qmail 17952 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 22:33:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 22:33:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E13E4304B2 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6782DD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2F434AC02D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AF034AC02A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl16.gs02.gridserver.com (cl16.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.25]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50715 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl16.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LVZG1-0001ai-JJ for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:33:09 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:33:07 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Another photo by Chris Thread-Index: AcmIon4xvOQgjvSVEd2dfAAKlchBUgABQAdgAADY3Ic= In-Reply-To: <000301c988a7$a2706280$e7512780$@com.au> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 23:33:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cbaad233511946193717 Yeah it does, I like it a lot. That shot was done with the 50mm FLE Distagon, a super sharp wide angle. My only complaint with the Hassy is the ungodly cost of the lenses, even when buying used. The 50mm was given to me, as was the camera and the 80 and 150mm lenses. I want the 40mm lens cause the 50 isn't always wide enough. The 40mm Hasselblad lens goes for over $1700 on ebay for one in decent used condition. Beat to hell examples still go for $1000 and if I had that much money to spend (and I don't) I would never pay that much for a beat up lens no matter if it is Zeiss. Zuikoholics, console yourselves: the really expensive OM lenses we lust for, like the 90mm macro and the 100m f2 and the 35-80 are still usually cheaper than Hasselblad lenses that are really common and easy to find! -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/6/09 5:09 PM, "Wayne Harridge" wrote: > That Hasselblad makes great photos Chris ! > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > > Thanks! I shot that with my Hasselblad, > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 23:49:54 2009 Received: (qmail 6434 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 22:49:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 22:49:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1964304D2 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BB2D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E175434AC02B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:49:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA9F34AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:49:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090206224924.RPHX23506.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:49:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <0FF89AD6-547F-486C-B8E8-5E61DF280C73@Bytesmiths.com> References: <0FF89AD6-547F-486C-B8E8-5E61DF280C73@Bytesmiths.com> Message-Id: <86D3E843-B8BC-4439-8EBD-C06FD2DD2B18@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:49:12 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Mid-Iowa ZuikoFest - Joel's results X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 23:49:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cbe92165961585427447 I've never gone that big. My printer is limited to 17-inch paper, and I've not had occasion yet to get anything printed by an outside source, though I'm tempted to try one or two really large. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Jan Steinman wrote: > Yea, but try taking it to 24x36! That's where GF really shines. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 23:51:30 2009 Received: (qmail 18458 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 22:51:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 22:51:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291E24304AE for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB039D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FE61A00FA for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:51:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F5D1A00F8 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:51:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090206225103.WDMY17503.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:51:03 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498CAE83.5090501@gmail.com> References: <285DA326-3180-4D83-8E8F-FB6454EACF5C@roadrunner.com> <498CAE83.5090501@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:50:52 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 23:51:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cbef235821234514069 Either way lies wisdom, Grasshopper Moose! --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Moose wrote: > Bob Whitmire wrote: >> Perhaps AG's gone Zen on us and has discovered the truth of >> emptiness. >> > > Discovering the emptiness of Truth is an important step for many. :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Feb 6 23:53:19 2009 Received: (qmail 11938 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2009 22:53:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Feb 2009 22:53:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D99E430552 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE666D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E264134AC02A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FD934AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090206225250.WEMQ17503.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:52:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <798AB14C-292B-4A4A-99AD-B1511BF5B7C7@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:52:38 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Feb 6 23:53:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cbf5f115161234514069 I see the US Air pilot is going to be on 60 Minutes this weekend. I haven't watched 60 Minutes in 20 years. (No, I don't recall why I stopped. I'm sure it was a very good reason. ) I may make an exception this week. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Timpe, Jim wrote: > I've heard pilots express opinions all over the > map, from "any seasoned, skilled pilot could have done that" to > "nothing > short of miraculous". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 01:03:17 2009 Received: (qmail 22384 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 00:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 00:03:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFBF1C40F39 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C025AD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C2E34AC028 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:03:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF9534AC006 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:03:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (lggriffin@clearwire.net whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.250]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1019060rvb.50 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.116.17 with SMTP id t17mr1735550rvm.268.1233964984256; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? (64-195-90-221.mod.clearwire-dns.net [64.195.90.221]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm3770054rvf.0.2009.02.06.16.03.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:03:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498CCF39.8050309@clearwire.net> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:00:57 -0800 From: "Larry G. Griffin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081031 SeaMonkey/1.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] FS Olumpus OM camera equipmentm, OM-2Ns, lenses, and more. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 01:03:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ccfc520814673671140 Long time lurker back again. In looking at the forth coming digital camera revolution, I'm a little slow, down size my OM equipment. In additon weekends are slow on the list. :) Below you will find the significant part, there is also a text file I'll email. The text file includes these and Finders, Focusing screens,Flashes, Motor drives, Filters misc., hoods misc., Neck straps, Never ready cases, boxes, and manuals. Not all of it is priced, so I'll take reasonable offers. I will return for what ever reason purchase price and shipping. Which is to also say that shipping will is not included in the price. I have been buying and selling on that auction site for 10 years as l6griffin. I will include with the cameras any Olympus neck strap, manual or box, if request. Thanks, Larry 1 ea. OM-2N silver body with 50mm f1.8 was CLA by Photosphere the end of 07 and has not had a roll of film in since. Minimal wear photos available. Comes with a complete set of manuals. $200 1 ea. OM-2N black body with 50mm f1.8 was CLA by Photosphere the end of 07 and has not had a roll of film in since. Minimal wear photos available. Comes with a complete set of manuals. $200 1 ea. Olympus Quick Flash AFL camera with manual, leather bag, Focal Aux wide angle, and telephoto lens, lens case. NO batteries. I have no history on this. $10 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Group price $300 1 ea. 250 Film Back 1 3 ea. 250 Film magazines in leather cases, with 2 spare cases 1 ea 250 Film Loader 1 ea. Darkroom cloth bag ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 ea. Manual adapters for OM-10, $5 ea. 2 ea. 2GB Kingston MicroSD cards $25 Lenses - all come with both end caps. 1 ea. Olympus Lens AF 50mm, f=1.8 $25 1 ea. lens 50mm f1.8 with Hoya UV filter. This is an excellent condition Lens, lettering is white, the mount doesn't show any signs of wear, like new. Made in Japan on lens. $60 1 ea. lens 50mm f1.8 with Vivatar skylight filter. This is in good condition, lettering is yellowed, the mount shows little sign of wear. $25 1 ea. Lens 50mm f1.4 with Tiffen filter, the Olympus rubber hood screw type mount, sn 11363xx. It has the two piece lens mount. Condition is excellent or seasoned new. There are a few spots on end of flutes, that are bright and some some dirt in flutes on the aperture ring. The mount some signs of wear. $150 1 ea. Lens 50mm f1.4 both with Hoya UV filters, in good condition sn 7883xx. The lettering is a little yellowed and the are some bright spots on the aperture ring. The body mount shows signs of use and the end cap for the body mount is an Adaptall 2. $60 1 ea. Lens 35mm f2.0 with Hoya skylight filter and Olympus metal hood screw on, sn 1003xx, silver nosed, aperture ring has some bright spots, and there is a bright spot on the front lens ring, over all good condition. $125 1 ea. Kiron 1.5X Match Mate MC O/OM teleconverter, good condition $10 1 ea. Vivitar Automatic Tele Converter 3X-21, , good condition. $5 1 set of Extension Tubes 7, 14, 25, I'd say in like new condition if wasn't for some bright spots on the 25mm extension. The mounts do not show any signs of wear. $15 1 ea. Lens case for 100mm f3.5, like new for one little 1/8 dia. faded spot. $15 3 ea. Tamron Adaptall mounts 2 look to be used in good condition, the other well used, there are 3 different marks, OM, OL, and O/OM. $10 ea. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 02:16:17 2009 Received: (qmail 20130 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 01:16:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 01:16:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996F11C40515 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADCED0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4CC34AC006 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:16:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57EF34AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:16:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.36]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEO002EM8URDFL0@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:16:03 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-138-10-33.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.10.33]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:16:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:16:00 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <3AAD63EFBB744EB6885452D56301286D@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcTAJ9vjEkYigoh/2dsb2JhbACBaIhTti8JjWkHgluBNwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,394,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="277488256" References: Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 02:16:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ce0e1163697350615338 How would the Mamiya R7II medium format range finder camera system compare with the Hassy system in terms of usability, lens quality, output and general appeal ? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Crawford" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris > Yeah it does, I like it a lot. That shot was done with the 50mm FLE > Distagon, a super sharp wide angle. My only complaint with the Hassy is > the > ungodly cost of the lenses, even when buying used. The 50mm was given to > me, > as was the camera and the 80 and 150mm lenses. I want the 40mm lens cause > the 50 isn't always wide enough. The 40mm Hasselblad lens goes for over > $1700 on ebay for one in decent used condition. Beat to hell examples > still > go for $1000 and if I had that much money to spend (and I don't) I would > never pay that much for a beat up lens no matter if it is Zeiss. > > Zuikoholics, console yourselves: the really expensive OM lenses we lust > for, > like the 90mm macro and the 100m f2 and the 35-80 are still usually > cheaper > than Hasselblad lenses that are really common and easy to find! > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 2/6/09 5:09 PM, "Wayne Harridge" wrote: > >> That Hasselblad makes great photos Chris ! >> >> ...Wayne >> >> Wayne Harridge >> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ >> >> >> Thanks! I shot that with my Hasselblad, >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 03:07:44 2009 Received: (qmail 4506 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 02:07:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 02:07:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9EF1C407EC for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D94D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCFC34AC029 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:07:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8BA34AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:07:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3420 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 02:07:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 02:07:29 -0000 In-Reply-To: <1CBE3ECC-F45D-4FAF-AD92-DFDCE45898E8@roadrunner.com> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <2E657733-DD2A-4C66-8E55-CEA3F941463D@people.net.au> <1CBE3ECC-F45D-4FAF-AD92-DFDCE45898E8@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <5E8718EE-0A0A-467F-9C07-7A07D6383364@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:07:24 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 03:07:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498cecf0315949117217770 I'm a smart-arse thankyou. No donkeys involved. Andrew Fildes don't need murkin pissweak euphemisms. afildes@people.net.au On 07/02/2009, at 12:54 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Smart ass! For lack of an "e" I'm in the pillory. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 04:55:00 2009 Received: (qmail 3459 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 03:54:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 03:54:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BEF1C40F56 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD84D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF80A34AC006 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DFB34AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl34.gs02.gridserver.com (cl34.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.43]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50896 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl34.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LVeHK-00028r-Vx for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:54:51 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:54:49 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Another photo by Chris Thread-Index: AcmI19KiERLw9vTLEd23vQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <3AAD63EFBB744EB6885452D56301286D@hudson> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 04:55:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d0614163631823421471 I didn't even consider the Mamiya 7II. Rangefinders aren't suited to the kind of architecture work on a tripod that I do. To do the photo of that church, I focused first on the foreground, noted the distance, then focused on the background and set focus in between and the appropriate aperture. I ended up with a 90 second exposure at f16. Hyperfocal focus like that with a rangefinder is a PAIN because you can only focus in the middle of the frame, which means taking it off the tripod. With the SLR I could compose then focus without moving the camera off the tripod or messing up my composition to check focus. Rangefinder frames aren't accurate enough for that kind of work too. Rangefinders are great for candid stuff, but with f4 max. aperture on the standard lens, no thanks. I regularly do low light work with my OM-4T and 50/1.4 at f1.4, 2, and 2.8 and I did so when testing the Bessa Rangefinder I was given. I have an f1.7 lens on it and will use it often near wide open for low light when it comes back from repair. I think the Bessa is gonna get A LOT of use, I really like it for candid work! The M7II is rather disgustingly overpriced for something so mechanically simple compared to a Hasselblad, which costs about the same for a basic system (body, lens, back, finder) as a Mamiya 7II with 80mm. The lenses are said to be very sharp, but still Zeiss lenses are too and are often cheaper. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/6/09 8:16 PM, "John Hudson" wrote: > How would the Mamiya R7II medium format range finder camera system compare > with the Hassy system in terms of usability, lens quality, output and > general appeal ? > > jh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Crawford" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris > > >> Yeah it does, I like it a lot. That shot was done with the 50mm FLE >> Distagon, a super sharp wide angle. My only complaint with the Hassy is >> the >> ungodly cost of the lenses, even when buying used. The 50mm was given to >> me, >> as was the camera and the 80 and 150mm lenses. I want the 40mm lens cause >> the 50 isn't always wide enough. The 40mm Hasselblad lens goes for over >> $1700 on ebay for one in decent used condition. Beat to hell examples >> still >> go for $1000 and if I had that much money to spend (and I don't) I would >> never pay that much for a beat up lens no matter if it is Zeiss. >> >> Zuikoholics, console yourselves: the really expensive OM lenses we lust >> for, >> like the 90mm macro and the 100m f2 and the 35-80 are still usually >> cheaper >> than Hasselblad lenses that are really common and easy to find! >> >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-747-3962 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >> >> >> >> On 2/6/09 5:09 PM, "Wayne Harridge" wrote: >> >>> That Hasselblad makes great photos Chris ! >>> >>> ...Wayne >>> >>> Wayne Harridge >>> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ >>> >>> >>> Thanks! I shot that with my Hasselblad, >>> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 05:46:29 2009 Received: (qmail 16367 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 04:46:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 04:46:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC111C40F42 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965BFD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F43534AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:46:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4D234AC003 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:46:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27650 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 04:46:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.134.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 04:46:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:46:12 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 05:46:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d1225144585368819438 Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh blowing dead leaves. Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like a furnace blast full of dust. Typical fire weather - weird grey light with strong sun tho' we don't get really nervous until it turns orange. It gets so hot, dry and windy that the forest can seem to explode up here in the trees. Public radio has shifted to full time emergency reports - there's a decision point when people have to decide whether to evacuate or stay and fight. There's about 300 fire outbreaks recorded so far today but only 5-6 are big ones and none close to here. Still, that smell of smoke makes you nervous - there was a small fire about 2km away but it's out. Bunkered down and living on fingernails. Cool change tonight, we hope - if you think 32deg (90oF) is cool. Now, ain't you glad you've got a snowstorm? :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 07:02:10 2009 Received: (qmail 25286 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 06:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 06:02:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4657B1C40F5A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130FED0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45A234AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:02:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A931434AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:02:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:02:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from invader.comkal.net (invader.comkal.net [192.168.1.41]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 07 Feb 2009 17:01:56 +1100 Message-ID: <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:01:52 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.03 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.03.08.1277) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 07:02:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d23e2138481744846740 Hi Andrew, > Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh > blowing dead leaves. Brilliant and wonderful weather, though not what Melbourne normally gets. Humidity here is (or was when I checked 30 mins ago) at 3%, and 46.7 at 1600Hrs. OM content below :-) Been outside cutting all the dead tree's and plants down and enjoying every minute of the heat. Might actually start getting a tan again as I've found it very hard to get my original brown look back since I moved to Melbourne and I turned white. Taken some photos of the house and yard to compare it all to the gardens heyday, not much left now :-( Thats the downside. Put a lot of water bowls around as there are some very shell shocked birds on the ground under the bushs. a few dead birds on the streets here as well. My black Kalgoorlie bush cat was lounging on the dirt in the shade, pissed off as he knows he's not to touch the birds, at least not while I'm around. > Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like > a furnace blast full of dust. Makes me feel at home :-) The dust is nothing like what Kalgoorlie us to get though, that bit I dont miss. > Cool change tonight, we hope - if you think 32deg (90oF) is cool. Ya but the humidity will go up again :-( > Now, ain't you glad you've got a snowstorm? :-) No ! That humidity is certainly to high for me. Come inside to check my wifes ok, after checking that Bill next door is still going ok (he's in his 80's). Nice cup of coffee and to check my email. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ All taglines are busy... One will be with you shortly. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 07:05:56 2009 Received: (qmail 30835 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 06:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 06:05:56 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B041C40F57 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52BFD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28991CD486 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:05:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF45D1CD481 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:05:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from invader.comkal.net (invader.comkal.net [192.168.1.41]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 07 Feb 2009 17:05:47 +1100 Message-ID: <300.10f10800b9248d49.035@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:05:45 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.03 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.03.08.1277) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 07:05:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d24c4121081499373980 Gee, before you correct me :-) > The dust is nothing like what Kalgoorlie "use" to get though, that bit I > dont miss. > "Came" inside to check my wifes ok, after checking that Bill next > door is still going ok (he's in his 80's). Nice cup of coffee and to > check my email. Hmm, should rewrite the above I think... Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ Microsoft Marketing: Slicker than Pennzoil 10-W-40. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 07:06:32 2009 Received: (qmail 8695 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 06:06:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 06:06:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF81C1C40515 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1174D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED8A34AC003 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:06:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619CF34AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:06:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:06:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5674 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 06:06:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.171.203) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 06:06:20 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> Message-Id: <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:06:15 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 07:06:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d24e823481499373980 You are a very sick man - back down the mines with you. As I remember, the only other major industry in Kalgoorlie was something to do with loose wimmen in tin sheds? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/02/2009, at 5:01 PM, Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Andrew, > >> Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh >> blowing dead leaves. > > Brilliant and wonderful weather, though not what Melbourne normally > gets. > Humidity here is (or was when I checked 30 mins ago) at 3%, and 46.7 > at 1600Hrs. > > OM content below :-) > > Been outside cutting all the dead tree's and plants down and enjoying > every minute of the heat. Might actually start getting a tan again > as I've > found it very hard to get my original brown look back since I moved to > Melbourne and I turned white. Taken some photos of the house and > yard to compare it all to the gardens heyday, not much left now :-( > Thats the downside. > > Put a lot of water bowls around as there are some very shell shocked > birds on the ground under the bushs. a few dead birds on the streets > here as well. > > My black Kalgoorlie bush cat was lounging on the dirt in the shade, > pissed off as he knows he's not to touch the birds, at least not while > I'm around. > >> Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like >> a furnace blast full of dust. > > Makes me feel at home :-) > The dust is nothing like what Kalgoorlie us to get though, that bit I > dont miss. > >> Cool change tonight, we hope - if you think 32deg (90oF) is cool. > > Ya but the humidity will go up again :-( > >> Now, ain't you glad you've got a snowstorm? :-) > > No ! > That humidity is certainly to high for me. > > Come inside to check my wifes ok, after checking that Bill next > door is still going ok (he's in his 80's). Nice cup of coffee and to > check my email. > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.comkal.net/ > > All taglines are busy... One will be with you shortly. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 07:20:17 2009 Received: (qmail 28358 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 06:20:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 06:20:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BDC1C40F39 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE90FD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D190934AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:20:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8DC34AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:20:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from invader.comkal.net (invader.comkal.net [192.168.1.41]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 07 Feb 2009 17:20:08 +1100 Message-ID: <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:20:07 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.03 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.03.08.1277) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 07:20:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d2821256141702588592 Hi Andrew, > You are a very sick man - back down the mines with you. As I For my age I think I'm very healthy thank you :-) > remember, the only other major industry in Kalgoorlie was something > to do with loose wimmen in tin sheds? Yes, called Hay St, but the part of the same street that has the Kalgoorlie Police station in it is called Brookman St, for some strange reason :-) Brookman St is also were my main office and business us to be before I moved to Melbourne. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ WINERR 012 - CASH UNDERFLOW - CREDIT CARD NUMBER WILL BE ASSIMILATED -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 07:32:37 2009 Received: (qmail 23033 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 06:32:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 06:32:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477911C40515 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8384BD0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8E034AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:32:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD60234AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:32:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (mail.bbp.ch [193.73.134.71]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ronald.localdomain (unverified) by mailkeeper2.bbp.ch (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:32:26 +0100 Received: from ians-mac-pro.local (unknown [172.20.200.2]) by ronald.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 7138B5E2C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:32:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:32:23 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> In-Reply-To: <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> Subject: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 07:32:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d2b0569789347015869 Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some in camera setting I have wrongly set. has anyone else found this? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 08:57:07 2009 Received: (qmail 22769 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 07:57:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 07:57:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AA41C4048A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB88D0404A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B27134AC001 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:57:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB89C34AC002 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:56:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.243]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1132606rvb.50 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:56:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.49.20 with SMTP id w20mr390209wfw.328.1233993419495; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:56:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:56:59 -0800 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 08:57:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d3ed3280163675314703 I never had an E-1, but it's "well known" that *generally* speaking, a full frame transfer CCD has better dynamic range and color rendition than CMOS. OTOH, try printing out the pictures larger. The higher resolution of the E-3 may kick in then. YMMV of course. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Ian W wrote: > Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using > irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, > sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the > E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. > > maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some > in camera setting I have wrongly set. > > has anyone else found this? > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 10:57:08 2009 Received: (qmail 10473 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 09:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 09:57:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7E94301E8 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 01:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D2B44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A646434AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347A534AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 01:56:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 01:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF87461689 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:15:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <4E46B19D-46E7-482A-BD79-C66B5F1265EB@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:56:56 +0000 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 10:57:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d5af414831823421471 I'm getting confused, Ian. Do you use more than one account to post to the List? Are you normally "swisspace"? Chris On 7 Feb 2009, at 06:32, Ian W wrote: > Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using > irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, > sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the > E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. > > maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's > some > in camera setting I have wrongly set. > > has anyone else found this? > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 11:08:20 2009 Received: (qmail 5555 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 10:08:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 10:08:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE16B430171 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C91944004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6CC34AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:08:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280DC34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:08:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB9C4615A4 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:27:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:08:13 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 11:08:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d5d94136177350615338 Hi Jim Not miraculous, but extremely well executed, in my view. The chap had little time to make a decision, but in the space of a couple of minutes he had to: 1. Lower the nose pretty smartly to avoid stalling the aircraft; he would have had it pretty high in a steep climb for noise abatement procedures in a city area. 2. Guess at a good gliding speed, although a good, experienced and conscientious pilot would have known the minimum drag speed for that weight. 3. Tell ATC that a large aircraft was over a large and populous city with no way of remaining airborne for long (then ignore them for a while as they had nothing useful to offer him). 4. Indicate to the crew and passengers that they had better prepare for a hard landing. 5. Make a plan with very little in the way of resources (runways, guidance, wind direction) that are normally available to the cosseted airline pilot (:-)). 6. Tell ATC what that plan was and carry out the emergency shutdown drills for the engines -- and and the emergency landing drills. 7. Find a clear bit of space, probably his easiest decision as the river was right in front of him -- once he had the nose down to glide. 8. Decide on the approach angle, when to flare (no practice is available for either gliding or ditching) and order an evacuation. 9. Finally, to walk down the watery aisle checking that he was the last one there. Wonderful! But so was the prompt and professional reaction of the ferry captains. The whole thing was excellent and I felt proud of all involved. Chris On 6 Feb 2009, at 21:50, Timpe, Jim wrote: > > Hey, Chris (Barker); Haven't heard your take on the Hudson splash > down > of a couple weeks ago. I've heard pilots express opinions all over > the > map, from "any seasoned, skilled pilot could have done that" to > "nothing > short of miraculous". I guess my thought is that if it were really as > easy as the first group would have us believe, there would be far more > successful water landings on record. As I understand it, the number > is > quite miniscule. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 11:36:34 2009 Received: (qmail 23628 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 10:36:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 10:36:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28416430146 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ECD44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3321834AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:36:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2134AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:36:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LVkXw-0004oY-Sk for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:36:24 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:36:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 11:36:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d6432277801591313764 Hi Ian. I don't own the E-1 or E-3 camera, but I have the smaller E-400. I have noticed, and got it confirmed by comparison with some friends' pictures, that my older E-400 also gives slightly better results than its successor E-420. Since I can do without the LiveView I did not 'upgrade'... Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:32:23 +0100, Ian W wrote: >Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using >irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, >sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the >E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. > >maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some >in camera setting I have wrongly set. > > has anyone else found this? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 11:41:33 2009 Received: (qmail 3773 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 10:41:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 10:41:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49933430173 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015A044004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4F334AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:41:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9103C34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:41:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 02:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22416 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 10:41:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.130.100) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 10:41:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:41:14 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 11:41:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d655d70734673671140 Good grief - what's the co-pilot doing? :-) The cockpit transcript is now published so we have an idea of what was offered and rejected. He also had to miss a bridge by not much and from that little bit of film I saw, he managed the perfect tail-dragging angle for ditching as a opposed to a wheels-up landing. I tend to think that 'bravery' should be used to describe a situation where one has a choice. In this situation it's more a case of quite admirable professionalism and skill. Even the passengers behaved very well indeed. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/02/2009, at 9:08 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Hi Jim > > Not miraculous, but extremely well executed, in my view. > > The chap had little time to make a decision, but in the space of a > couple of minutes he had to: > > 1. Lower the nose pretty smartly to avoid stalling the aircraft; he > would have had it pretty high in a steep climb for noise abatement > procedures in a city area. > > 2. Guess at a good gliding speed, although a good, experienced and > conscientious pilot would have known the minimum drag speed for that > weight. > > 3. Tell ATC that a large aircraft was over a large and populous city > with no way of remaining airborne for long (then ignore them for a > while as they had nothing useful to offer him). > > 4. Indicate to the crew and passengers that they had better prepare > for a hard landing. > > 5. Make a plan with very little in the way of resources (runways, > guidance, wind direction) that are normally available to the cosseted > airline pilot (:-)). > > 6. Tell ATC what that plan was and carry out the emergency shutdown > drills for the engines -- and and the emergency landing drills. > > 7. Find a clear bit of space, probably his easiest decision as the > river was right in front of him -- once he had the nose down to glide. > > 8. Decide on the approach angle, when to flare (no practice is > available for either gliding or ditching) and order an evacuation. > > 9. Finally, to walk down the watery aisle checking that he was the > last one there. > > Wonderful! But so was the prompt and professional reaction of the > ferry captains. > > The whole thing was excellent and I felt proud of all involved. > > Chris > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 12:47:52 2009 Received: (qmail 31569 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 11:47:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 11:47:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068994301EA for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342A644004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:47:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B57734AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:47:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7989534AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:47:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Feb 2009 12:47:44 +0100 Message-ID: <498D74DF.2060200@picturepedia.org> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:47:43 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <4E46B19D-46E7-482A-BD79-C66B5F1265EB@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <4E46B19D-46E7-482A-BD79-C66B5F1265EB@threeshoes.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2009 11:47:44.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[E37F5390:01C98919] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 12:47:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d74e8204997927319144 Hi Chris, yes thats me I got fed up with gmail not always sending messages. Chris Barker wrote: > I'm getting confused, Ian. Do you use more than one account to post > to the List? Are you normally "swisspace"? > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 12:56:48 2009 Received: (qmail 22398 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 11:56:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 11:56:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6FE430153 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B97244004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199BA19E288 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:56:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0487919E287 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:56:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.jazztel.es (smtp02.jazztel.es [62.14.3.171]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.164.17] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp02.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVlgB-0005oY-9B for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:48:59 +0100 Message-ID: <498D76F5.5030309@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:56:37 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 12:56:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d7700161123675314703 Ian, certainly a very interesting topic. I do the same as you. I spend hours in front of my Apple Cinema, going = through the images, checking dynamic range, highlights, noise, etc... I have been working with E-1 since 2003. Color was superb in that time = but I missed too much reversal film color rendition. I also didn=B4t like = at all Olympus Studio for processing my images and jumping to another = software, Olympus color was lost. CaptureONE with their lovely etcetera = consulting ICC profiles, is a good candidate but their demosaicing = algorithms were very bad. Even with their new 4.0 release, fine details = in images are lost. I have been reading a lot about E-3 but also have seen hundreds of = images, checking noise, color, detail, etc... and I must say E-3 is = better than E-1 in all fields. I agree with Richard about dynamic range. = E-1 KAF-5101CE CCD was superb. Underexposed images processed under RAW = software, pushing up (1 to 1.5 stops) are rendered with rich detail and = little noise. We cannot say the same about E-3. Have a look to this = Olympus demo image. It=B4s ISO 100 and have a look into the deep shadows = between her neck and hair. Banding, green cast, etc... It seems this = sensor has banding issues even at lower ISOs but I the overall quality = is fantastic. http://olympus-imaging.jp/product/dslr/e3/sample/images/index_image02_l.jpg Something I don=B4t agree with you is about E-3 color. I think E-3 color = is simply awesome. Muchhhhh better than E-1. Olympus did a great job. = This camera blows away CANON and NIKON in color rendition. Clearly, = color is one of Olympus priorities when creating a camera. Regards, Dave = Frank van Lindert escribi=F3: > Hi Ian. > > I don't own the E-1 or E-3 camera, but I have the smaller E-400. I > have noticed, and got it confirmed by comparison with some friends' > pictures, that my older E-400 also gives slightly better results than > its successor E-420. Since I can do without the LiveView I did not > 'upgrade'... > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > > On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:32:23 +0100, Ian W wrote: > > = >> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using = >> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, = >> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the = >> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >> >> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some = >> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >> >> has anyone else found this? >> = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 13:17:22 2009 Received: (qmail 22199 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 12:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 12:17:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718A64301B9 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB44444004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A993634AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:17:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761634AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:17:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.jazztel.es (smtp02.jazztel.es [62.14.3.171]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.164.17] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp02.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVm06-00084N-JG for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:09:34 +0100 Message-ID: <498D7BC9.3030300@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:17:13 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D76F5.5030309@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-Reply-To: <498D76F5.5030309@mirko2.jazztel.es> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 13:17:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d7bd272497350615338 Hi Ian, I forgot to tell something. Everybody is claiming that E-30 has a better = sensor than E-3. Well Panasonic could have solved banding issues but = noise is much higher than E-3. Have a look to these images. http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/lenses/35-100_20/images/sampl= e04.jpg This image is ISO 200 taken with E-30. Please go through the image. Mid = tones and shadows are covered by noise, noise and noise. Red and green = noise dots spoling the whole image. Now E-3 ISO 100, same lens, same lighting conditions. http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/products/dslr/e3/sample/images/sample_02.jpg Olympus did a terribly great job redesigning E-510 sensor for E-3. The = quality is awesome for such a small sensor. Please enlarge the image = have a look to image structure, color, noise... This is a pro camera. E-30 is good but I don=B4t agree the new sensor = ouperforms E-3. In my honest opinion E-30 sensor was designed long time = ago and we cannot see a linear evolution between E-3 and E-30. The new = E-4 will show the real evolution from E-3 to E-4. E-30 reminds me too much to E-500 image structure. These red and green = dots all over the image while E-1 was always clean like E-3. Regards, Dave > > Frank van Lindert escribi=F3: > = >> Hi Ian. >> >> I don't own the E-1 or E-3 camera, but I have the smaller E-400. I >> have noticed, and got it confirmed by comparison with some friends' >> pictures, that my older E-400 also gives slightly better results than >> its successor E-420. Since I can do without the LiveView I did not >> 'upgrade'... >> >> Frank van Lindert >> Utrecht NL. >> >> >> On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:32:23 +0100, Ian W wrote: >> >> = >> = >>> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using = >>> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, = >>> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the = >>> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >>> >>> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's som= e = >>> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >>> >>> has anyone else found this? >>> = >>> = > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 13:22:44 2009 Received: (qmail 9156 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 12:22:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 12:22:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120474301E3 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0876C44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF95734AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:22:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740F034AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:22:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 04:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEP005C73PN02Z0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:22:35 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-222-216-19.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.216.19]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:22:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:22:35 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <014DB3EBD11D4F6F8E8D9A1DCD55CC5F@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8QALsLjUkY3tgT/2dsb2JhbACBaIhTtWsJjVcHglyBNwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,396,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="422332111" References: Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 13:22:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d7d136243675314703 Claiming that a rangefinder is unsuitable for architectural work because one cannot see through the lens is spurious. Using the camera to focus upon any object in the scene involves moving the camera unless of course one uses the depth of field markers on the lens itself. All your pre-exposure prep work could readily be done with with an SLR or a RF. The only variable of significance is the maximum lens aperture and that applies to both SLRs and RFs. I relied and still rely heavily on the accuracy of those depth of field markers ande have not come unstuck yet. I have had very successful results using a rangefinder in tight architectural surroundings including Salisbury Cathedral, Montreal' s Notre-Dame Basilica, Ummayed Mosque in Damascus, and the Roman ruins at Baalbek in Lebanon. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Crawford" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris >I didn't even consider the Mamiya 7II. Rangefinders aren't suited to the > kind of architecture work on a tripod that I do. To do the photo of that > church, I focused first on the foreground, noted the distance, then > focused > on the background and set focus in between and the appropriate aperture. I > ended up with a 90 second exposure at f16. Hyperfocal focus like that with > a > rangefinder is a PAIN because you can only focus in the middle of the > frame, > which means taking it off the tripod. With the SLR I could compose then > focus without moving the camera off the tripod or messing up my > composition > to check focus. Rangefinder frames aren't accurate enough for that kind of > work too. > > Rangefinders are great for candid stuff, but with f4 max. aperture on the > standard lens, no thanks. I regularly do low light work with my OM-4T and > 50/1.4 at f1.4, 2, and 2.8 and I did so when testing the Bessa Rangefinder > I > was given. I have an f1.7 lens on it and will use it often near wide open > for low light when it comes back from repair. I think the Bessa is gonna > get > A LOT of use, I really like it for candid work! > > The M7II is rather disgustingly overpriced for something so mechanically > simple compared to a Hasselblad, which costs about the same for a basic > system (body, lens, back, finder) as a Mamiya 7II with 80mm. The lenses > are > said to be very sharp, but still Zeiss lenses are too and are often > cheaper. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 2/6/09 8:16 PM, "John Hudson" wrote: > >> How would the Mamiya R7II medium format range finder camera system >> compare >> with the Hassy system in terms of usability, lens quality, output and >> general appeal ? >> >> jh >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Crawford" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris >> >> >>> Yeah it does, I like it a lot. That shot was done with the 50mm FLE >>> Distagon, a super sharp wide angle. My only complaint with the Hassy is >>> the >>> ungodly cost of the lenses, even when buying used. The 50mm was given to >>> me, >>> as was the camera and the 80 and 150mm lenses. I want the 40mm lens >>> cause >>> the 50 isn't always wide enough. The 40mm Hasselblad lens goes for over >>> $1700 on ebay for one in decent used condition. Beat to hell examples >>> still >>> go for $1000 and if I had that much money to spend (and I don't) I would >>> never pay that much for a beat up lens no matter if it is Zeiss. >>> >>> Zuikoholics, console yourselves: the really expensive OM lenses we lust >>> for, >>> like the 90mm macro and the 100m f2 and the 35-80 are still usually >>> cheaper >>> than Hasselblad lenses that are really common and easy to find! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chris Crawford >>> Fine Art Photography >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>> 260-747-3962 >>> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>> >>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/6/09 5:09 PM, "Wayne Harridge" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> That Hasselblad makes great photos Chris ! >>>> >>>> ...Wayne >>>> >>>> Wayne Harridge >>>> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! I shot that with my Hasselblad, >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 15:13:40 2009 Received: (qmail 5834 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 14:13:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 14:13:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2525443027F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DAB44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8644519E71C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3259519E711 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090207141332.FUBF8858.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:13:32 +0000 In-Reply-To: <5E8718EE-0A0A-467F-9C07-7A07D6383364@people.net.au> References: <4988A12F.7040402@gmail.com> <498A3831.3000200@rogers.com> <498CCBB1-0CDD-432D-9FC7-CAF3AFC631F9@people.net.au> <5F819A95-92EF-4937-90FB-7D4C8F73EE8A@people.net.au> <2C886128-8991-4FBD-9B4F-C7CB5F41E1D2@threeshoes.net> <2E657733-DD2A-4C66-8E55-CEA3F941463D@people.net.au> <1CBE3ECC-F45D-4FAF-AD92-DFDCE45898E8@roadrunner.com> <5E8718EE-0A0A-467F-9C07-7A07D6383364@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:13:31 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 15:13:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d971487351234514069 Are you sure? --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > No donkeys involved. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 15:21:19 2009 Received: (qmail 12885 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 14:21:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 14:21:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A949430266 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BC044004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7947234AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:21:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E4934AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:21:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090207142113.TWG23506.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:21:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <0670EFF9-2E4F-4E84-8E5D-C13C9C2863AA@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:21:12 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 15:21:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d98df293711073733319 On Feb 7, 2009, at 5:41 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > I tend to think that 'bravery' should be used to describe a situation > where one has a choice. > In this situation it's more a case of quite admirable professionalism > and skill. I've heard it said, and my limited experience tends to bear it out, that in adversity, one does not rise to the level of one's potential, but rather sinks to the level of one's training (and experience). --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 15:40:43 2009 Received: (qmail 4449 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 14:40:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 14:40:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F010F430295 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B8844004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB18419E7E1 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BFA19E7DE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EE0C972D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:02:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0670EFF9-2E4F-4E84-8E5D-C13C9C2863AA@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:40:36 +0000 References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> <0670EFF9-2E4F-4E84-8E5D-C13C9C2863AA@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 15:40:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d9d6b9602336821329 Oh, I'm not sure that I could agree with that, Bob. But it's difficult to be more objective or for us to understand exactly what each other means by these words. I reckon I'm better in adversity than when I have had too much time to think through the options ... :-) Chris On 7 Feb 2009, at 14:21, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > I've heard it said, and my limited experience tends to bear it out, > that in adversity, one does not rise to the level of one's potential, > but rather sinks to the level of one's training (and experience). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 15:41:26 2009 Received: (qmail 13774 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 14:41:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 14:41:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2379430283 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0F044004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193CE19E7ED for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:41:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926E519E7DE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:41:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16519 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 14:41:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 14:41:18 -0000 Message-ID: <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:41:16 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 15:41:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d9d96222331342116753 Nothing to do with color but aperture is certainly a consideration with pixel density of the E3. Diffraction will begin to limit E1 resolution at apertures smaller than f/8. An E3 will be diffraction limited at apertures smaller than about f/5.6. It's not that you can't shoot the E3 at f/8 but if you do the resolution limits will be closer to the E1. There should be nothing you can set in the camera that will affect raw development unless you're accepting the conversion using the parameters that would have been used if the camera had made a JPEG. If I were home I'd say send me one and let me convert it for you to see what I could do in ACR. But the only computer I've got at the moment is the "Krappy Kolor" laptop. Now that I'm thinking about it I'm wondering if diffraction can in fact have an effect on color. Diffracted beams don't go where they're intended. Check color for shots of f/5.6 or wider vs. f/8 or smaller. Chuck Norcutt Ian W wrote: > Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using > irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, > sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the > E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. > > maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some > in camera setting I have wrongly set. > > has anyone else found this? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 15:47:00 2009 Received: (qmail 12866 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 14:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 14:46:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EC143026B for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C09C44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:46:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDFE19E80D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:46:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C444119E7FB for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:46:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A5AC973C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:08:39 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:46:53 +0000 References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 15:47:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498d9ee495881585427447 That's an eternal problem, Andrew. It's easy enough to allocate jobs among the team for circumstances that you have trained for, but it is extremely difficult to train for this sort of eventuality, I reckon. I look forward to hearing or reading the transcript. It might well become a required lesson in CRM (Crew Resource Management) training. The perfect angle for the landing was the most tricky part. Too low an angle and the rate of descent would have been too high (for a given speed); too high and he might, I suspect, have broken the aircraft and lost people. Chris On 7 Feb 2009, at 10:41, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Good grief - what's the co-pilot doing? :-) > The cockpit transcript is now published so we have an idea of what > was offered and rejected. > He also had to miss a bridge by not much and from that little bit of > film I saw, he managed the perfect tail-dragging angle for ditching > as a opposed to a wheels-up landing. > > I tend to think that 'bravery' should be used to describe a situation > where one has a choice. > In this situation it's more a case of quite admirable professionalism > and skill. > Even the passengers behaved very well indeed. > Andrew Fildes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 16:13:32 2009 Received: (qmail 11003 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 15:13:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 15:13:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10292430278 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B75844004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135EB34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:13:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A815634AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:13:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.36]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEP0047PBMDFR50@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:13:25 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-222-216-19.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.216.19]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:13:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:13:25 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <2850DAA560DB4AF58AEC2EF23DB3ACB0@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlsRAFMzjUkY3tgT/2dsb2JhbACBaIhUwzEHhBMG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,396,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="277732752" References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 16:13:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498da51c269051342116753 The miracle was that there was no river traffic in the way. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" <> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. > Hi Jim > > Not miraculous, but extremely well executed, in my view. > > The chap had little time to make a decision, but in the space of a > couple of minutes he had to: > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 17:00:37 2009 Received: (qmail 25435 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 16:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 16:00:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12C430277 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3452744004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0743B19EAA6 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:00:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8BC19EAFE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:00:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.jazztel.es (smtp02.jazztel.es [62.14.3.171]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.164.17] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp02.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVpU5-0006DI-GU for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:52:45 +0100 Message-ID: <498DB018.8010802@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:00:24 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 17:00:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498db025187214673671140 Hi Chuck, I am not an engineer and I don=B4t really understand this complex = technical data so I apologize if I am reporting something wrong but I = remember reading this in slrgear about E-510 and Zuiko Digital 50 f2. Sharpness Looking at the blur graph, the lens is incredibly sharp: it barely = surpasses one blur unit at =83/2, and by =83/4 it produces images as sharp = as our scale can detect. This sharpness trend continues all the way to = =83/16, where diffraction limiting starts to set in. By =83/22, the lens = still produces fantastic results, registering just over 2 on our blur = scale. Some lens owners would be content to see the kind of performance = you see at =83/22 at more commonly used apertures such as =83/8. Overall, = absolutely superb performance. Do you think E-3 is diffraction limited? http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/35/cat/all Warmest regards, David Chuck Norcutt escribi=F3: > Nothing to do with color but aperture is certainly a consideration with = > pixel density of the E3. Diffraction will begin to limit E1 resolution = > at apertures smaller than f/8. An E3 will be diffraction limited at = > apertures smaller than about f/5.6. It's not that you can't shoot the = > E3 at f/8 but if you do the resolution limits will be closer to the E1. > > There should be nothing you can set in the camera that will affect raw = > development unless you're accepting the conversion using the parameters = > that would have been used if the camera had made a JPEG. If I were home = > I'd say send me one and let me convert it for you to see what I could do = > in ACR. But the only computer I've got at the moment is the "Krappy = > Kolor" laptop. > > Now that I'm thinking about it I'm wondering if diffraction can in fact = > have an effect on color. Diffracted beams don't go where they're = > intended. Check color for shots of f/5.6 or wider vs. f/8 or smaller. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Ian W wrote: > = >> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using = >> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, = >> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the = >> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >> >> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some = >> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >> >> has anyone else found this? >> = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 17:52:06 2009 Received: (qmail 24231 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 16:52:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 16:52:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70424302BA for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29AE44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22C919ED1E for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79B19ECFA for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1299914wfg.26 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.194.1 with SMTP id r1mr1731594wff.138.1234025520082; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:52:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:52:00 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 17:52:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dbc36200681591313764 On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Ian W wrote: > Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using > irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, > sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the > E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. > > maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some > in camera setting I have wrongly set. > > has anyone else found this? I think it's probably going to be largely a matter of finding the settings that you like best with the E-3. Since I was shooting with both bodies last weekend, I was struck by how pleasing the E-1 capture is. But I also was -- mostly -- using entirely different lenses between the two cameras, and at the time the E-1 was the winning camera/lens combination. But there is NOTHING wrong with the E-1, and yet I'm not ready by that fact to declare the E-3 a stinker. It seems extremely accurate; it's just that accuracy is not always precisely what one is looking for. For now the E-1 has that 'je ne sais quoi" quality -- for me -- and I'm pretty confident that I know almost exactly what I will get with it, whereas I'm not at that level of familiarity yet with the E-3 and get both pleasant surprise as well as disappointments from it. This is not to say that I can't ordinarily pull the result I'm after from the E-3 RAW file. I just like the camera settings to get me 90% of the way there. My hypothesis is that what I'm looking for lies in the E-3 VIVID menu, with some scaling back of the saturation settings and a bit of a tweak away from green in WB. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 17:57:26 2009 Received: (qmail 11437 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 16:57:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 16:57:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805BC430286 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFC744004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B5734AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2495E34AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:57:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n17Gum11025957 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:56:48 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <48FFE50D8F1F439AA976D79ED1D82681@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org><498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DB018.8010802@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:54:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 17:57:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dbd76164371023412894 The blur index of 50/2 is actually increasing from F4 that means resolution = is reducing. You better look at dpreview for easier understanding of the = actual performance, its resolution is reduced to half at F16 that means = could only resolve ~4MP. http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/olympus_50_2_o20/page3.asp C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- = From: "David Irisarri" Hi Chuck, I am not an engineer and I don=B4t really understand this complex technical data so I apologize if I am reporting something wrong but I remember reading this in slrgear about E-510 and Zuiko Digital 50 f2. Sharpness Looking at the blur graph, the lens is incredibly sharp: it barely surpasses one blur unit at =83/2, and by =83/4 it produces images as sharp as our scale can detect. This sharpness trend continues all the way to =83/16, where diffraction limiting starts to set in. By =83/22, the lens still produces fantastic results, registering just over 2 on our blur scale. Some lens owners would be content to see the kind of performance you see at =83/22 at more commonly used apertures such as =83/8. Overall, absolutely superb performance. Do you think E-3 is diffraction limited? http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/35/cat/all Warmest regards, David Chuck Norcutt escribi=F3: > Nothing to do with color but aperture is certainly a consideration with > pixel density of the E3. Diffraction will begin to limit E1 resolution > at apertures smaller than f/8. An E3 will be diffraction limited at > apertures smaller than about f/5.6. It's not that you can't shoot the > E3 at f/8 but if you do the resolution limits will be closer to the E1. > > There should be nothing you can set in the camera that will affect raw > development unless you're accepting the conversion using the parameters > that would have been used if the camera had made a JPEG. If I were home > I'd say send me one and let me convert it for you to see what I could do > in ACR. But the only computer I've got at the moment is the "Krappy > Kolor" laptop. > > Now that I'm thinking about it I'm wondering if diffraction can in fact > have an effect on color. Diffracted beams don't go where they're > intended. Check color for shots of f/5.6 or wider vs. f/8 or smaller. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Ian W wrote: > >> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using >> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, >> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the >> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >> >> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some >> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >> >> has anyone else found this? -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 18:13:34 2009 Received: (qmail 18969 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 17:13:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 17:13:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A172243029C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE6944004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1118219EE53 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:13:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2DF19EE3D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:13:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n17HDNCE029224 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:13:23 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:13:15 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 18:13:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dc13e210097350615338 I had the E-1 for almost four years and the E-3 for two months, the only cases when E-3 is not as sharp as E-1 were due to focusing error, E-3 resolve MUCH better than E-1 in all cases otherwise. The noise control of E-3 is also much better than E-1. Talking about color, if you are not using Olympus RAW it is very difficult to make a compare, third party software may not be that reliable. PhaseOne C1 just failed the color accuracy for my 5D II files. Can't remember if E-3 has the "auto gradation" function, I hate it with the E-520, it pull up the shadows and make lot of noise. For a fair comparison make sure both E-3 and E-1 has the same setting. Some people also mentioned the WB of E-3 is not as good as E-1 but it is easy to correct in RAW. C.H.Ling > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Ian W wrote: > >> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using >> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, >> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the >> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >> >> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some >> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >> >> has anyone else found this? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 18:25:46 2009 Received: (qmail 26123 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 17:25:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 17:25:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D624A4302A2 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B319644004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A388834AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:25:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD4934AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8016733752 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:33:17 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d5642) id dm0201.4981cddc.aa09ee for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:25:38 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JjcQSaj65lwIAAAAB,1a4038bd76462823c2e2c87b78206cea Message-ID: <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:25:40 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 18:25:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dc41a165391073733319 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Nothing to do with color but aperture is certainly a consideration with > pixel density of the E3. Diffraction will begin to limit E1 resolution > at apertures smaller than f/8. An E3 will be diffraction limited at > apertures smaller than about f/5.6. It's not that you can't shoot the > E3 at f/8 but if you do the resolution limits will be closer to the E1. Hmmm, isn't it more like f11 for the E-1 and f8 for the E-3? Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach pictures. :) Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 18:57:43 2009 Received: (qmail 24022 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 17:57:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 17:57:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869EA430276 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4AB44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:57:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383DD34AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:57:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A449B34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.jazztel.es (smtp02.jazztel.es [62.14.3.171]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.164.17] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp02.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVrJS-0001oI-PR for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:49:54 +0100 Message-ID: <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:57:33 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> In-Reply-To: <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 18:57:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dcb9785751234514069 Hi C.H.Ling, So... E-3 doesn=B4t give you a tack sharp focus images. I readed something = in this website and it might be the reason of your problems. Anyway I = think this system is much better than E-1. You can switch to three point = AF in your E-3. http://olyflyer.blogspot.com/ I am not quite sure but I also hear something related with E-3 AWB but = they solved with firmware update, didn=B4t they? Regards, Dave C.H.Ling escribi=F3: > I had the E-1 for almost four years and the E-3 for two months, the only = > cases when E-3 is not as sharp as E-1 were due to focusing error, E-3 = > resolve MUCH better than E-1 in all cases otherwise. The noise control of = > E-3 is also much better than E-1. > > Talking about color, if you are not using Olympus RAW it is very difficul= t = > to make a compare, third party software may not be that reliable. PhaseOn= e = > C1 just failed the color accuracy for my 5D II files. > > Can't remember if E-3 has the "auto gradation" function, I hate it with t= he = > E-520, it pull up the shadows and make lot of noise. For a fair compariso= n = > make sure both E-3 and E-1 has the same setting. Some people also mention= ed = > the WB of E-3 is not as good as E-1 but it is easy to correct in RAW. > > C.H.Ling > > > = >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Ian W wrote: >> >> = >>> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using >>> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, >>> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the >>> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >>> >>> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some >>> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >>> >>> has anyone else found this? >>> = > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:01:02 2009 Received: (qmail 28038 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:01:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D1B43029F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED84A44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFBB19F021 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:00:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF4119E6DE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:00:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E20C972D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:22:40 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:00:54 +0000 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:01:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dcc5e290451023412894 I'm glad that you have resisted the temptation of AC, Andrew, but I don't envy you the heat. I used to experience heat like that when I lived in Aden, Mukalla and Bahrain as a child. More recently I was in Phoenix (1990) when it was that hot with high humidity; it was bloomin' miserable! Chin up ... Chris On 7 Feb 2009, at 04:46, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh > blowing dead leaves. > Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like > a furnace blast full of dust. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:01:28 2009 Received: (qmail 22359 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:01:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:01:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDC3430290 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC3044004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CAC19E6DE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:01:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F3319F021 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:00:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 22 days 21:25:16 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-41-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.41.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17I0nNl023697 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:00:50 -0200 Message-ID: <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:00:29 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:01:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dcc78289371529615919 Hi list, Back from holidays, Punta del Este was warm and too sunny if such a thing is conceivable :) Too lazy this summer, but I hope to have at least six good pictures on Velvia 50 and Provia 100. What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. I suspect there could be a means to recover them, since when I power it up one of the erased .jpg shows up in the display, and because counter says 67 instead of zero. How? TIA Fernando. Richard Lovison wrote: > > Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach pictures. :) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:06:03 2009 Received: (qmail 21251 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:06:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:06:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6EA4302B4 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A18944004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C38E34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:05:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF3734AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:05:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 22 days 21:30:14 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-41-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.41.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17I5pfs024084 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:05:51 -0200 Message-ID: <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:05:31 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-Reply-To: <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:06:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dcd8b55262046811720 'read' David; not 'readed' - LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... Fernando. David Irisarri wrote: > I readed something = > = -- = Dr. Fernando Gonz=E1lez Gentile M.D. Av.L.P.Ponce 1526B - 11600 Montevideo, Uruguay. Phone: +598 2 7084858 Fax: +598 2 7087396 -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:30:58 2009 Received: (qmail 14428 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:30:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:30:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7CC4302BC for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A99D44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0C634AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EDE34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:30:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 22 days 21:55:07 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-41-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.41.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17IUhWO025931 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:30:43 -0200 Message-ID: <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:30:23 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:30:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dd362169241234514069 wow I was melting at 32 here. humidity always above 40% - there were about 20 fire outbreaks during January along the seaside area only, and wind didn't help either, but rarely above 50 kmh. Cattle suffered badly since December all over this small country. Fresh fruits and vegetables became expensive under this ozone-free atmosphere. Except peaches :-) Fernando. Andrew Fildes wrote: > Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh > blowing dead leaves. > Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like > a furnace blast full of dust. > > Typical fire weather - weird grey light with strong sun tho' we don't > get really nervous until it turns orange. > It gets so hot, dry and windy that the forest can seem to explode up > here in the trees. > Public radio has shifted to full time emergency reports - there's a > decision point when people have to decide whether to evacuate or stay > and fight. > There's about 300 fire outbreaks recorded so far today but only 5-6 > are big ones and none close to here. > Still, that smell of smoke makes you nervous - there was a small fire > about 2km away but it's out. > Bunkered down and living on fingernails. > Cool change tonight, we hope - if you think 32deg (90oF) is cool. > > Now, ain't you glad you've got a snowstorm? :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:35:48 2009 Received: (qmail 5957 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:35:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:35:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8750643029A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A03C44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9A734AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:35:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0624034AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:35:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.jazztel.es (smtp01.jazztel.es [62.14.3.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.164.150] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp01.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVs1k-0003ie-C5 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:35:40 +0100 Message-ID: <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:35:40 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:35:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dd484307661702588592 Here in Spain we have a proverb that it=B4s certainly very accurate for = this case. "A palabras necias, o=EDdos sordos" I remember some years ago someone told me that "read" can be used as a = regular but also irregular verb. I tried to help Ian with his query but = if I must write a perfect english, I think it=B4s better to leave. Ah! y lo de burro, no me doy por aludido. Regards, Dave Fernando Gonzalez Gentile escribi=F3: > 'read' David; not 'readed' - > LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... > > Fernando. > > David Irisarri wrote: > = >> I readed something = >> = >> = > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:49:09 2009 Received: (qmail 31245 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:49:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:49:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BA343026A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC12B44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F0634AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:49:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9588E34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:49:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 22 days 22:13:20 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-41-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.41.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17ImtWM026974 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:48:55 -0200 Message-ID: <498DE593.1030402@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:48:35 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-Reply-To: <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:49:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dd7a5305391823421471 I apologize David, I only meant to make a joke - should have done it = offlist perhaps, y eso fue realmente una necedad. Fernando. David Irisarri wrote: > Here in Spain we have a proverb that it=B4s certainly very accurate for = > this case. > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 19:50:52 2009 Received: (qmail 5325 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 18:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 18:50:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FA143029E for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DB044004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F6119F250 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:50:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385A619F223 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:50:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LVsGJ-0003ew-OK for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:50:43 +0000 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LVsGJ-0002kk-A6 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:50:43 +0000 Message-ID: <498DD81E.4030507@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:51:10 +0000 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-Reply-To: <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 19:50:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dd80c248749117217770 David Irisarri wrote: > Here in Spain we have a proverb that it=B4s certainly very accurate for = > this case. > = > "A palabras necias, o=EDdos sordos" > = > I remember some years ago someone told me that "read" can be used as a = > regular but also irregular verb. I tried to help Ian with his query but = > if I must write a perfect english, I think it=B4s better to leave. > = > Ah! y lo de burro, no me doy por aludido. > = > Regards, > = > Dave Dave, mate! We'd lose half the group if perfect English (whatever that is) was a = criterion for membership! ;-) D. -- = I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:02:01 2009 Received: (qmail 28142 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:01:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:01:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54ED4302B6 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D5E44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8132219F2EE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA3E19F2E8 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl34.gs02.gridserver.com (cl34.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.43]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50193 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl34.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LVsR8-0001jW-KW for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:01:54 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:01:52 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... Thread-Index: AcmJVolFyBToAPVJEd24hgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:02:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ddaa9129901234514069 Fernando, If you're on a Mac, google a program called EXIF UNTRASHER. It recovers deleted files from memory cards, even if you formatted the card. I've been successful with it a number of times, and it is freeware. I think there are free programs, as well as ones that you'd have to buy, for Windows too. Don't use the card anymore until you do the recovery, taking new photos will overwrite some of the deleted ones. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/7/09 2:00 PM, "Fernando Gonzalez Gentile" wrote: > Hi list, > > Back from holidays, Punta del Este was warm and too sunny if such a > thing is conceivable :) > Too lazy this summer, but I hope to have at least six good pictures on > Velvia 50 and Provia 100. > > What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus > 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. > She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. > > I suspect there could be a means to recover them, since when I power it > up one of the erased .jpg shows up in the display, and because counter > says 67 instead of zero. > > How? > > TIA > > Fernando. > > Richard Lovison wrote: >> >> Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach pictures. :) >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:02:45 2009 Received: (qmail 10964 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:02:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:02:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FC343029F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9E944004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDE234AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E606034AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rtomcala@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:02:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([173.67.40.169]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEP00DMFM7YR131@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:02:22 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:02:31 -0500 From: Rand E User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-reply-to: <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:02:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ddad5223181702588592 Dave, I wouldn't worry about the small stuff. Most of english "native = speakers" have difficulties also with the language. And, for the most = part, we can only communicate in that one language. English is a very = difficult language and that is true to even those of us who are born = into it. More power to you and the others that are multi-lingual to = whatever degree. The main thing to remember, is what is important. The sharing of = Olympus and general photographic information. This is a great list and = it remains that way becaure, for the most part, we pay attention to what = is important and ignore the trivial stuff. Rand E. P.S. I have likely made several mistakes in the above. I know that my = fellow members from "across the pond" would have some issues. The = important thing remains "Do we understand each other ?". ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Irisarri wrote: > Here in Spain we have a proverb that it=B4s certainly very accurate for = > this case. > > "A palabras necias, o=EDdos sordos" > > I remember some years ago someone told me that "read" can be used as a = > regular but also irregular verb. I tried to help Ian with his query but = > if I must write a perfect english, I think it=B4s better to leave. > > Ah! y lo de burro, no me doy por aludido. > > Regards, > > Dave > > > Fernando Gonzalez Gentile escribi=F3: > = >> 'read' David; not 'readed' - >> LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... >> >> Fernando. >> >> David Irisarri wrote: >> = >> = >>> I readed something = >>> = >>> = >>> = >> = >> = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:03:48 2009 Received: (qmail 22018 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:03:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:03:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D644302B5 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64644004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B5134AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:03:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6C334AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:03:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (gmcgrath@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from GMcGrath@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.bea.37501f21 (41809) for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:03:37 -0500 (EST) From: GMcGrath@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:03:37 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:03:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ddb14260401744846740 Fernando, If you haven't already done it, take the card out of the camera to prevent anyone from accidentally overwriting the old files by taking pictures. There are a number of "undelete" programs available, which work with varying degrees of success. I'd check the Web site of your card's manufacturer first, because some of them have free downloads available. Then there are a number of other programs available, including Image Recall, PhotoRescue, and Digital Image Recovery. You can find them on shareware sites, or I can email you a copy, if you like. Hopefully, one of these will retrieve the images. HTH, Greg **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000003) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:08:19 2009 Received: (qmail 26186 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:08:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:08:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40C94302A4 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CDC44004F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2833334AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:08:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997BA34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:08:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2209 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 19:08:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 19:08:09 -0000 Message-ID: <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:08:06 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:08:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ddc2352851035110158 Richard Lovison wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Nothing to do with color but aperture is certainly a consideration with >> pixel density of the E3. Diffraction will begin to limit E1 resolution >> at apertures smaller than f/8. An E3 will be diffraction limited at >> apertures smaller than about f/5.6. It's not that you can't shoot the >> E3 at f/8 but if you do the resolution limits will be closer to the E1. > > Hmmm, isn't it more like f11 for the E-1 and f8 for the E-3? No. > > Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Yes. Low 70's today. Send beach pictures. :) Haven't been there yet. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:15:21 2009 Received: (qmail 23391 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:15:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:15:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A52043029E for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:15:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ADED0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06D834AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:15:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1704634AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:15:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4823 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 19:15:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 19:15:12 -0000 Message-ID: <498DDDBD.4020302@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:15:09 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org><498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DB018.8010802@mirko2.jazztel.es> <48FFE50D8F1F439AA976D79ED1D82681@main> In-Reply-To: <48FFE50D8F1F439AA976D79ED1D82681@main> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:15:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dddc9252189347015869 It is the lens that experiences diffraction. All of them do. And the = resolution values are *theoretical* maximums. Actual performance is = probably less. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > The blur index of 50/2 is actually increasing from F4 that means resoluti= on = > is reducing. You better look at dpreview for easier understanding of the = > actual performance, its resolution is reduced to half at F16 that means = > could only resolve ~4MP. > = > http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/olympus_50_2_o20/page3.asp > = > C.H.Ling > = > ----- Original Message ----- = > From: "David Irisarri" > = > Hi Chuck, > = > I am not an engineer and I don=B4t really understand this complex > technical data so I apologize if I am reporting something wrong but I > remember reading this in slrgear about E-510 and Zuiko Digital 50 f2. > = > Sharpness > Looking at the blur graph, the lens is incredibly sharp: it barely > surpasses one blur unit at =83/2, and by =83/4 it produces images as sharp > as our scale can detect. This sharpness trend continues all the way to > =83/16, where diffraction limiting starts to set in. By =83/22, the lens > still produces fantastic results, registering just over 2 on our blur > scale. Some lens owners would be content to see the kind of performance > you see at =83/22 at more commonly used apertures such as =83/8. Overall, > absolutely superb performance. > = > Do you think E-3 is diffraction limited? > = > http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/35/cat/all > = > Warmest regards, > = > David > = > Chuck Norcutt escribi=F3: >> Nothing to do with color but aperture is certainly a consideration with >> pixel density of the E3. Diffraction will begin to limit E1 resolution >> at apertures smaller than f/8. An E3 will be diffraction limited at >> apertures smaller than about f/5.6. It's not that you can't shoot the >> E3 at f/8 but if you do the resolution limits will be closer to the E1. >> >> There should be nothing you can set in the camera that will affect raw >> development unless you're accepting the conversion using the parameters >> that would have been used if the camera had made a JPEG. If I were home >> I'd say send me one and let me convert it for you to see what I could do >> in ACR. But the only computer I've got at the moment is the "Krappy >> Kolor" laptop. >> >> Now that I'm thinking about it I'm wondering if diffraction can in fact >> have an effect on color. Diffracted beams don't go where they're >> intended. Check color for shots of f/5.6 or wider vs. f/8 or smaller. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Ian W wrote: >> >>> Last night I was looking through my pictures with my wife (using >>> irfanview) and we came to the conclusion that they were better colour, >>> sharpness and in some other unexplained way than ones taken with the >>> E-3, not much but enough to notice has anyone else found this. >>> >>> maybe its to do with aperture and its raw development or maybe it's some >>> in camera setting I have wrongly set. >>> >>> has anyone else found this? > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:18:03 2009 Received: (qmail 18180 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:18:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:18:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C00643026F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052BAD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72E819F3E6 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:17:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F2619F3CF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:17:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LVsgd-0007Xy-Sw for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:17:55 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:17:48 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:18:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dde6b49271234514069 That's how burritos are made, isn't it? ;-) Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:05:31 -0300, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... > >Fernando. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:23:31 2009 Received: (qmail 32213 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:23:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:23:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627984302A5 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349ABD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CE219F40D for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:23:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D4819F3CF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:23:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 22 days 22:47:43 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-41-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.41.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17JNKM5029609 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:23:21 -0200 Message-ID: <498DEDA4.4090505@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:23:00 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:23:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ddfb3259043675314703 Thanks Chris and Gary, and anyone else who's willing to write for more support. Unfortunately I'm not on a Mac anymore since a couple of years ago, Chris - long story. Fernando. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:26:26 2009 Received: (qmail 4915 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:26:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2F5430290 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E5AD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2D334AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:26:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D292334AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:26:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 22 days 22:50:37 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-41-49.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.41.49]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17JQCuu029857 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:26:13 -0200 Message-ID: <498DEE50.50406@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:25:52 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:26:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498de062142257350615338 ROTFLOL ;-) Fernando. Frank van Lindert wrote: > That's how burritos are made, isn't it? ;-) > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:05:31 -0300, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > > = >> Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... >> >> Fernando. >> = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:33:58 2009 Received: (qmail 32754 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:33:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:33:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A9843027C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAEED0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772DF34AC028 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:33:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0473534AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:33:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13449 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 19:33:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 19:33:46 -0000 Message-ID: <498DE217.8080406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:33:43 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:33:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498de226246001744846740 Immediately remove this card from the camera and do not use it in the camera until I have a change to write a more complete response. Taking another image with the card in the camera after the erasure may compromise the ability to recover accidentally deleted files. Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Hi list, > > Back from holidays, Punta del Este was warm and too sunny if such a > thing is conceivable :) > Too lazy this summer, but I hope to have at least six good pictures on > Velvia 50 and Provia 100. > > What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus > 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. > She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. > > I suspect there could be a means to recover them, since when I power it > up one of the erased .jpg shows up in the display, and because counter > says 67 instead of zero. > > How? > > TIA > > Fernando. > > Richard Lovison wrote: >> Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach pictures. :) >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:47:18 2009 Received: (qmail 13054 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A8F4302A6 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256EFD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9E34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE4C34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18508 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 19:47:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 19:47:10 -0000 Message-ID: <498DE53C.1070900@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:47:08 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile , Olympus mail list References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <498DE300.9090806@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498DE300.9090806@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Lexar Image Rescue 3 attached X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:47:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498de546273321591313764 Install Image Rescue 3 that I sent you and attempt to recover deleted files. If, prior to erasing all, there were individual deletions made the recovery may not work or may work for some images and not others. These images may be corrupted or truncated. Lesson: NEVER delete images in camera. If you make a mistake such as here with multiple erasures or accidentally formatting the card a single file erasure may prevent successful recovery of other images. I'm copying this to the list to spread this same advice which I've given here before. Chuck Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Chuck > > Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> Back from holidays, Punta del Este was warm and too sunny if such a >> thing is conceivable :) >> Too lazy this summer, but I hope to have at least six good pictures on >> Velvia 50 and Provia 100. >> >> What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my >> Stylus 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase >> All. >> She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. >> >> I suspect there could be a means to recover them, since when I power >> it up one of the erased .jpg shows up in the display, and because >> counter says 67 instead of zero. >> >> How? >> >> TIA >> >> Fernando. >> >> Richard Lovison wrote: >>> Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach >>> pictures. :) >>> >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 20:55:30 2009 Received: (qmail 1669 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 19:55:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 19:55:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7684B43029A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93211D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C6534AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:55:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C9134AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:55:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21126 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 19:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 19:55:22 -0000 Message-ID: <498DE727.1000702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:55:19 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 20:55:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498de732180731342116753 For FAT and FAT32 formatted media, whether recovery or, at least, complete recovery is possible after accidental erasure or formatting isn't knowable if any single or multiple file deletions were previously made or if any new images were added. It depends upon how full the card was and what the storage reuse methodology is in the particular FAT system implementation. Best rule of thumb is to *never* delete selected images in camera and never write anything to the card after accidental formatting or erasure. If you follow those rules then complete recovery will be assured since simple formatting or erasure do not destroy data other than directory pointers. Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > Fernando, > > If you're on a Mac, google a program called EXIF UNTRASHER. It recovers > deleted files from memory cards, even if you formatted the card. I've been > successful with it a number of times, and it is freeware. I think there are > free programs, as well as ones that you'd have to buy, for Windows too. > > Don't use the card anymore until you do the recovery, taking new photos will > overwrite some of the deleted ones. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:10:49 2009 Received: (qmail 19900 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:10:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:10:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2D043028A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2E9D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0F119F8EF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:10:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01C519F8F8 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:10:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13475 invoked by uid 502); 7 Feb 2009 21:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.203.158) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 21:10:38 -0000 Message-ID: <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:10:28 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:10:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498df8d955251023412894 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > ... > > What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. > She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. > > I suspect there could be a means to recover them, since when I power it up one of the erased .jpg shows up in the display, and because counter says 67 instead of zero. > > How? > My recollection in a similar situation is the the app, RescuePro, that came with one of my SanDisk cards, didn't work at all. I think the one that did was FreeUndelete. As I recall, it didn't recover everything, as I had taken some pics since and overwritten. Things may be different with an xD card than the SDHC card I worked with. If one recovery app doesn't work, just try another. there are a lot of free or trial version ones out there. What did recover everything was the copies I had made each night on the laptop. Why or how I had missed copying a day's shooting onto the desktop or erased it, I'll never know for sure. I think it was due to running out of space on my main image disk and getting into a complicated arrangement of primary and back-up locations on various disks. I do know that rigid rules not to delete any image in-camera other than the last one taken and of making copies on FlashTrax and/or Laptop each night saved me the one time I somehow screwed up. Especially after that incident, I compare directories on the portable storage devices to those on the desktop and update the back-ups of those before deleting anything on the portables. Good luck! Moose > TIA > > Fernando. > > Richard Lovison wrote: > >> Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach pictures. :) >> >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:26:16 2009 Received: (qmail 21345 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:26:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B178430289 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4113CD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1379419F947 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:26:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2061D19F923 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:26:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7589 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 21:26:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.172.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:26:03 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498DD81E.4030507@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DD81E.4030507@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-Id: <3108935F-7E1F-4478-813C-16816E7143F3@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:25:57 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:26:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfc78256837927319144 Some of us are keeping note of which half. :-) Andrew Fildes (perfectly imperfect) afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 5:51 AM, Donald wrote: > Dave, mate! > > We'd lose half the group if perfect English (whatever that is) was a > criterion for membership! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:28:56 2009 Received: (qmail 27334 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:28:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECCB430331 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6754D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9169B19F957 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:28:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A4F19F923 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:28:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21858 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 21:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 21:28:48 -0000 Message-ID: <498DFD0D.9030804@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:28:45 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:28:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfd18231981234514069 Moose has properly identified the one exception to not deleting in camera. You may delete the last one *provided* you had not previously deleted another. If there was a previous deletion the last image may not be the last one in the chain of storage locations. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: >> ... >> >> What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. >> She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. >> >> I suspect there could be a means to recover them, since when I power it up one of the erased .jpg shows up in the display, and because counter says 67 instead of zero. >> >> How? >> > > My recollection in a similar situation is the the app, RescuePro, that > came with one of my SanDisk cards, didn't work at all. I think the one > that did was FreeUndelete. > As I recall, it > didn't recover everything, as I had taken some pics since and > overwritten. Things may be different with an xD card than the SDHC card > I worked with. If one recovery app doesn't work, just try another. there > are a lot of free or trial version ones out there. > > What did recover everything was the copies I had made each night on the > laptop. Why or how I had missed copying a day's shooting onto the > desktop or erased it, I'll never know for sure. I think it was due to > running out of space on my main image disk and getting into a > complicated arrangement of primary and back-up locations on various > disks. I do know that rigid rules not to delete any image in-camera > other than the last one taken and of making copies on FlashTrax and/or > Laptop each night saved me the one time I somehow screwed up. > > Especially after that incident, I compare directories on the portable > storage devices to those on the desktop and update the back-ups of those > before deleting anything on the portables. > > Good luck! > > Moose > >> TIA >> >> Fernando. >> >> Richard Lovison wrote: >> >>> Are you enjoying the Florida warmth and sunshine? Send beach pictures. :) >>> >>> >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:30:19 2009 Received: (qmail 29695 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:30:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3CD4302BB for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA3ED0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F6B34AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:30:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F45334AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:30:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22841 invoked by uid 504); 7 Feb 2009 21:30:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 21:30:09 -0000 Message-ID: <498DFD5E.5050509@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:30:06 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:30:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfd6b305171023412894 They'll probably have issues with your use of the word "issues". :-) Chuck Norcutt Rand E wrote: > Dave, > I wouldn't worry about the small stuff. Most of english "native = > speakers" have difficulties also with the language. And, for the most = > part, we can only communicate in that one language. English is a very = > difficult language and that is true to even those of us who are born = > into it. More power to you and the others that are multi-lingual to = > whatever degree. > The main thing to remember, is what is important. The sharing of = > Olympus and general photographic information. This is a great list and = > it remains that way becaure, for the most part, we pay attention to what = > is important and ignore the trivial stuff. > Rand E. > = > P.S. I have likely made several mistakes in the above. I know that my = > fellow members from "across the pond" would have some issues. The = > important thing remains "Do we understand each other ?". > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > = > David Irisarri wrote: >> Here in Spain we have a proverb that it=B4s certainly very accurate for = >> this case. >> >> "A palabras necias, o=EDdos sordos" >> >> I remember some years ago someone told me that "read" can be used as a = >> regular but also irregular verb. I tried to help Ian with his query but = >> if I must write a perfect english, I think it=B4s better to leave. >> >> Ah! y lo de burro, no me doy por aludido. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dave >> >> >> Fernando Gonzalez Gentile escribi=F3: >> = >>> 'read' David; not 'readed' - >>> LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... >>> >>> Fernando. >>> >>> David Irisarri wrote: >>> = >>> = >>>> I readed something = >>>> = >>>> = >>>> = >>> = >>> = >> = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:31:32 2009 Received: (qmail 8347 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:31:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:31:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6464F430278 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A21D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D83919F963 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:31:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A4919F959 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 23 days 00:55:43 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-60-153.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.60.153]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n17LVAU4005868; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:31:11 -0200 Message-ID: <498E0B9A.6040507@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:30:50 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Done !! - was:Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:31:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfdb4189283675314703 Recovering files successful :-) This is a great list - Thanks everyone. More than that: after erasure, I kept on taking some five .jpg more, since I thought I had nothing to lose, and wanted to keep on using the camera ( both reasons ). Every file was undeleted - shall upload those I think are worthwhile: would you prefer an abstract Cadillac or a nice stormy sunset ? I feel good :-) Fernando. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:32:49 2009 Received: (qmail 31883 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:32:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:32:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BF7430298 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51927D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410E319F963 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:32:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE11119F967 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:32:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22880 invoked by uid 502); 7 Feb 2009 21:32:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.185.128) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 21:32:40 -0000 Message-ID: <498DFDF0.1070106@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:32:32 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:32:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfe01309811035110158 Chris Barker wrote: > I'm glad that you have resisted the temptation of AC, Andrew, but I don't envy you the heat. I'm not convinced that enduring high heat is good for my health. It doesn't get as hot here as you describe (at least so far), but hot enough to make me quite uncomfortable. My compromise has been to put a small, inexpensive AC unit in a window in the master bedroom. I don't suppose it runs more than 100 hours in an average year, but the relief and the ability to get a good nights sleep is an enormous benefit. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:34:27 2009 Received: (qmail 24793 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:34:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:34:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807A9430298 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60E8D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE82934AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:34:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3547234AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:34:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KEP00C0PT97BT70@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:34:19 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-222-216-19.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.216.19]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:34:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:34:19 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <3CD934D600664ACB944928F582A3CDD3@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlsRAOeMjUkY3tgT/2dsb2JhbACBZ4hUwjUHhBMG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,397,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="459221245" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:34:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfe63103021234514069 Hong Kong in the summer months rarely reaches above 33C but the humidity can read over 90%. That is miserable. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather > I'm glad that you have resisted the temptation of AC, Andrew, but I > don't envy you the heat. I used to experience heat like that when I > lived in Aden, Mukalla and Bahrain as a child. More recently I was in > Phoenix (1990) when it was that hot with high humidity; it was > bloomin' miserable! > > Chin up ... > > Chris > > On 7 Feb 2009, at 04:46, Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh >> blowing dead leaves. >> Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like >> a furnace blast full of dust. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:36:01 2009 Received: (qmail 5210 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:36:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:36:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E402F43029B for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C02ED0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB2734AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:35:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C44234AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:35:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24179 invoked by uid 502); 7 Feb 2009 21:35:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.185.128) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 21:35:54 -0000 Message-ID: <498DFEB2.7060303@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:35:46 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <498DE300.9090806@chucknorcutt.com> <498DE53C.1070900@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498DE53C.1070900@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Lexar Image Rescue 3 attached X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:36:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498dfec163971234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > ... > > Lesson: NEVER delete images in camera. Here, my practice differs. I happily delete the last shot taken if it's obviously trash. That seems entirely safe in theory, and I've had no problem in practice. I never go back and delete prior shots. > If you make a mistake such as here with multiple erasures or accidentally formatting the card a single file erasure may prevent successful recovery of other images. > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:41:33 2009 Received: (qmail 28451 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:41:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:41:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D6343029C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A4CD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5539A19F989 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:41:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DA119F987 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:41:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9721 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 21:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.172.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:41:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> Message-Id: <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:41:17 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:41:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e000d295694673671140 Hottest day ever recorded in Melbourne yesterday - 46.4deg. Cool change is through but some of the grass and forest fires have simply turned and run with at least six large ones still out of control ('large' usually involves thousands of hectares). Some of those rural fires can move at tens of kilometres an hour. Latest figures are 25 dead in the fires in this state and likely to go above 40, many in their cars trying to flee. Last week's heatwave already filled the morgues with premature deaths among the elderly. Worst since 1983 when my mother-in-law lost her home but we didn't have any bad outbreaks in my patch of the forest this time. Meanwhile, up north where it's supposed to be hot, Queensland has disappeared under severe floods. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 6:30 AM, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > wow I was melting at 32 here. humidity always above 40% - there were > about 20 fire outbreaks during January along the seaside area only, > and > wind didn't help either, but rarely above 50 kmh. > Cattle suffered badly since December all over this small country. > Fresh fruits and vegetables became expensive under this ozone-free > atmosphere. > Except peaches :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:46:58 2009 Received: (qmail 23198 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:46:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:46:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A6E4302B4 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E66D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D09E34AC028 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:46:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDC834AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:46:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090207214651.SYYZ6485.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:46:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> <0670EFF9-2E4F-4E84-8E5D-C13C9C2863AA@roadrunner.com> Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:46:49 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:46:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e0152116621702588592 Ah, but you are well trained and experienced. I think, to put it more simply, that when the sh*t hits the fan and one does not have time to think things through, one falls back on training and experience and just does what needs to be done without a lot of hand-wringing. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Oh, I'm not sure that I could agree with that, Bob. But it's > difficult to be more objective or for us to understand exactly what > each other means by these words. > > I reckon I'm better in adversity than when I have had too much time to > think through the options ... :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:51:54 2009 Received: (qmail 17014 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:51:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B744302CE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56403D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E2934AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:51:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3EE34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:51:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11271 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 21:51:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.172.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:51:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498DFD5E.5050509@chucknorcutt.com> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> <498DFD5E.5050509@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:51:37 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:51:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e027a15721591313764 I've had many non-native English speakers tell me that it's an easy language - it is simplified, after all with no obvious cases or complex inflections. That's offset by a high level of irregularity and by regional variations, but that's common to any widespread language I suspect. I imagine that there are several very distinct forms of Spanish. Now if you want a rule concerning the comment below, it's simple and applies to both sides of the pond - - Don't say 'utilise' when you mean 'use'. - Don't say 'issue' when you mean 'problem.' (Even if 'issue' is right, 'problem' suffices). It's Occam' Linguistic razor - prefer the simpler word. As to a list rule - I don't think we ever correct the several and welcome non-native English speakers here. Only those who should know better. :-) Andrew Fildes (aspiring to infallibility). afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 8:30 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > They'll probably have issues with your use of the word "issues". :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 22:52:27 2009 Received: (qmail 6285 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 21:52:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 21:52:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB844302BF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C9AD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0663319F9DA for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:52:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A995E19F9A5 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:52:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090207215221.TBGH6485.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:52:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> Message-Id: <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:52:20 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 22:52:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e029b200062070262475 If it were possible I would box up some cold and send it your way. I can't imagine enduring that kind of heat, and I grew up in the American south. It was a smidge below zero (F) this morning, and I think it got to 21 or 22 (F). Tomorrow, we've got our own heat wave, where the merc is supposed to rise to a whopping 40 (F). --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 7, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Hottest day ever recorded in Melbourne yesterday - 46.4deg. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:08:09 2009 Received: (qmail 10003 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:08:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:08:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA184302B4 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8B1D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C219FA49 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:08:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FF619FA42 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:08:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13446 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 22:07:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.172.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:07:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> Message-Id: <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:07:52 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:08:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e0649272141702588592 Did I say ot weather wasn't photogenic, last week? Here's that very special orange light I mentioned - http://www.theage.com.au/national/death-toll-rises-from- bushfires-20090208-80jv.html Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 8:52 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > If it were possible I would box up some cold and send it your way. I > can't imagine enduring that kind of heat, and I grew up in the > American south. It was a smidge below zero (F) this morning, and I > think it got to 21 or 22 (F). Tomorrow, we've got our own heat wave, > where the merc is supposed to rise to a whopping 40 (F). > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > On Feb 7, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> Hottest day ever recorded in Melbourne yesterday - 46.4deg. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:10:25 2009 Received: (qmail 4468 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:10:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:10:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B343029A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F59D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D7E34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0819734AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:10:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87628461515 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:29:19 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:10:16 +0000 References: <0A984490-536D-48A2-A9F7-43E74477CBBA@threeshoes.net> <0670EFF9-2E4F-4E84-8E5D-C13C9C2863AA@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:10:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e06d1202589347015869 Yes, that must be right, Bob. I expect that you've had your fair share of that. Chris On 7 Feb 2009, at 21:46, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I think, to put it more > simply, that when the sh*t hits the fan and one does not have time to > think things through, one falls back on training and experience and > just does what needs to be done without a lot of hand-wringing. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:18:12 2009 Received: (qmail 10271 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:18:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:18:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43DB4302BC for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF43FD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED5219FA8C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6433019FA70 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94C8730297 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:25:38 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c511a) id dm0201.4981cddc.aedf85 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:17:57 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JjgiVe2DUaAIAAAAB,48029ebd095d5af6dd9ec12ef3196246 Message-ID: <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:18:00 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:18:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e08a4144962336821329 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > Richard Lovison wrote: >> Hmmm, isn't it more like f11 for the E-1 and f8 for the E-3? > > No. Where does your data come from? From actual use of the E-1 and E-3 in the field or a specific review or tech paper you found online? Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:35:23 2009 Received: (qmail 14284 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:35:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021C8430298 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39230D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2947834AC029 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:35:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CE934AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:35:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17538 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2009 22:35:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.172.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:35:11 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> Message-Id: <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:35:06 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:35:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e0cab23191257536491 And another nice photo set - http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2009/02/04/2482299.htm Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 9:07 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Did I say hot weather wasn't photogenic, last week? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:48:34 2009 Received: (qmail 21566 invoked by uid 0); 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Accepted (Neutral) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:58:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.11] (me-14-110-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KE400FK8P8PB150@asmtp030.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:58:05 -0800 (PST) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:57:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:54 -0800 Subject: [OM] Some photos from last summer X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:54:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e110987481499373980 Just to show some photos, I send you this: http://homepage.mac.com/jmalmstrom/Summer2008/ All OM-photos. Thanks, Johan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:54:04 2009 Received: (qmail 3777 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:54:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:54:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6256C4302D7 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB3FD0404B for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17F834AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:29:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1FE34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:29:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m26.mail.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d22.36f5327a (37130) for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA024-5c45498dfd41217; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:29:45 -0500 Received: from webmail-stg-d02 (webmail-stg-d02.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.23]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA013-5c45498dfd41217; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:29:37 -0500 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:29:37 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 208.27.111.119 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41421-STANDARD Received: from 208.27.111.119 by webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:29:37 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB578250337088-1DFC-487@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:54 -0800 Subject: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:54:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e110c243451342116753 Speaking of Hassey vs Mamiya---I was a bit surprised to see this comparison of the Mamiya 120 macro vs the Hasselblad. There has been a link on the list before but here it is: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/back-testing.shtml Really very little difference despite a very large price difference. Mamiya 645 lenses at least don't seem to outrageously priced. Never have seen any published MTF data on them--perhaps don't exist? Stumbled into some 100% crops comparing the Mam 120 to a Tam 90/2.5. Very limited sample size and perhaps a slight focusing issue, but despite subtle differences, no clear winner. This appeared to provide evidence that the Lp/mm performance is not that different despite the larger format. Any of these platforms are very potent tools in Chris's hands. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:54:04 2009 Received: (qmail 24720 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:54:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:54:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDF44302CD for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1BAD0404A for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7CC1CD484 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:56:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7614D1CD486 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:56:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 00:27:18 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-173.ctimail.com [61.93.57.173]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:56:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n0S6SppB028412 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:28:51 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n0S6SoUB019460 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:28:51 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <2494F8FCDF6E428CAEB95D0AB5BF14EA@main> From: "Accura" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <475380.41075.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <497EDA31.1030907@yahoo.co.uk> <497EDEF0.3070102@yahoo.co.uk><2DB4EAC21CB3499885E0C8229F09CAFD@main> <497F0C5A.40301@yahoo.co.uk> <497F2B8B.5070106@chucknorcutt.com><8412DD2369F942838A19E93C3136C318@main> <497F4A7B.1020804@chucknorcutt.com><57B7270E22CA4944964A81634E7B31CA@main> <497FBAF7.4040807@chucknorcutt.com> <497FC70D.4030302@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:27:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [OM] Photos of kids (was: More on noise E3 - iso 3200) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:54:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e110c12909117217770 Marc, your kids shots are very nice. I especially like this one: http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=216 I'm not good at taking photo for children, we usually won't ask for smiling face even most of them are posted. Here are two typical shots from our elder son in 1990 with OM 24/2: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/1990-05A-16.jpg http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/1990-02A-27.jpg BTW, besides the kid shots your page shown some very nice portraits too! C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Aside from recordshots/snapshots, I'm not fond of taking > smile-at-the-camera photos ("fake smile" or not), and thus I frequently > get, from my own mum and from my siblings (as parents) "It's a shame you > didn't get them to smile". I like just saying "Oi! [Name]!" and clicking > when they turn. Generally they're all pretty used to me having the > camera around anyway, so I get my "unaware" shots too ("It's a shame > they're not looking at the camera"). I admit it's a little demotivating > at times when the family doesn't appreciate my selection of favourites: > > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=127 > (Olympus OM1 and Zuiko 50/1.4) > > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=194 > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=214 > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=216 > (these will likely be my EOS 10D and some lens or other) > > I do get smiles on occasion though: > > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=212 > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=210 > > > I therefore tend to take far more pictures of my dogs and inanimate > objects. :) > > Cheers, > Marc > Noosa Heads, Oz > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:54:11 2009 Received: (qmail 14251 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:54:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:54:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF06430286 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F26D44004F for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E8F19F800 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E3319F80C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:25:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([62.249.223.39]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KEG008XRDX14D30@asmtp029.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:24:40 -0800 (PST) Message-id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:24:37 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:54 -0800 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Bracketing for snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:54:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e1113103217350615338 Dear All Since we have just been discussing this, I have put a set of bracketed shots on this gallery: http://gallery.me.com/zuiko/100037 I set the E-3 for 3 shots at 0.3EV intervals with a baseline of 0 correction. It seems to me that the +0.3 has come out best, although I have had to adjust the White Balance (I have it set to Daylight all the time, rather than Auto). I used bracketing on purpose since I do not often see snow here and I wasn't sure how to adjust the exposure. I now see that I should have set it to +0.5 or +1.0 as baseline. Any thoughts? The scene is in the Reserve of the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB), not far from my home. My wife works there (for a pittance ... :-)). Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:54:14 2009 Received: (qmail 3746 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:54:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:54:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245434302EB for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA14044004F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0FF19DC68 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:40:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB2D19DC60 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.11] (me-14-110-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KE600LJSAQUNV50@asmtp028.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:40:13 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <46F98E15-01E7-4A84-80EA-A98B8C616E81@me.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <419D1150-509C-4082-8D24-DEA1830F88F7@ucr.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:40:02 +0100 References: <419D1150-509C-4082-8D24-DEA1830F88F7@ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:53:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [OM] Some photos from last summer X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:54:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e1116201763675314703 The foreground is the same flower as is present in another photo. We = call it Fire Lily, but the english name seems to be Orange Lily = (Lilium bulbiferum L. ) Thanks for looking and the kind words. / Johan 27 jan 2009 kl. 17.14 skrev siddiq@ucr.edu: > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:59 AM, Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > >> Just to show some photos, I send you this: >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/jmalmstrom/Summer2008/ >> >> All OM-photos. > > #1 took a while to figure out what was in the foreground--nicely done, > and agreed with Chuck, the last one is fantastic. > > Thanks for sharing. > /s > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Feb 7 23:58:10 2009 Received: (qmail 26224 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 22:58:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 22:58:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE7B4302CD for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D22D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5D334AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:58:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF7D34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:58:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LVw7e-00068t-RE for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:58:02 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:57:55 +0100 Message-ID: <544so49ggj24tc73196r4uv1j8t9d5kkse@4ax.com> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Feb 7 23:58:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e1202317681744846740 Well, eh.. nice, photogenic - let me put it this way: the pictures are good. It makes you realise once more how devastating the weather can be - not that I needed the reminder, being a meteorologist. The toll is enormous, both in terms of lives and property damage. I feel sympathy for all of your fellow Australians hit by the nature disasters of this summer. Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:35:06 +1100, Andrew Fildes wrote: >And another nice photo set - >http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2009/02/04/2482299.htm >Andrew Fildes >afildes@people.net.au > > > >On 08/02/2009, at 9:07 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> Did I say hot weather wasn't photogenic, last week? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 00:34:39 2009 Received: (qmail 9732 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 23:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 23:34:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2484302DA for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84316D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A1E19FC28 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:34:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFDA19FC1B for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:34:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl34.gs02.gridserver.com (cl34.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.43]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50562 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl34.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LVwgx-0003jf-LM for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:34:31 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:34:29 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Another photo by Chris Thread-Index: AcmJfJ7N3Ws/YPVvEd2OpwAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <8CB578250337088-1DFC-487@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 00:34:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e1a8f268401744846740 I have a Mamiya 645 and the lenses are very, very good. And CHEAP. They were fairly cheap even when new and are dirt cheap used. There must be something magical about rangefinders that make manufacturers think they can rape us on cost. The 645 lenses likely cost more to make, they're more mechanically complex with their auto-aperture mechanisms. I really like my 645 system. I'm shooting a lot with the Hasselblad too because I really like square format. The Hassy lenses are better than the 645 lenses, but you only see it in the corners, so I still shoot 645 when I want a rectangle instead of a square (yeah I know I can crop the square and sometimes I do if the Hassy is all I have with me, but I try not to waste film given my financial situation now). -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/7/09 4:29 PM, "usher99@aol.com" wrote: > Speaking of Hassey vs Mamiya---I was a bit surprised to see this > comparison of the Mamiya 120 macro vs the Hasselblad. There has been a > link on the list before but here it is: > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/back-testing.shtml > > Really very little difference despite a very large price difference. > Mamiya 645 lenses at least don't seem to outrageously priced. > > Never have seen any published MTF data on them--perhaps don't exist? > Stumbled into some 100% crops comparing the Mam 120 to a Tam 90/2.5. > Very limited sample size and perhaps a slight focusing issue, but > despite subtle differences, no clear winner. This appeared to provide > evidence that the Lp/mm performance is not that different despite the > larger format. > > Any of these platforms are very potent tools in Chris's hands. > > > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 00:44:42 2009 Received: (qmail 29905 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2009 23:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Feb 2009 23:44:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864F3430298 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0563D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B3234AC006 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:44:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1366634AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:44:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10895 invoked by uid 502); 7 Feb 2009 23:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.4?) (moose@71.139.205.219) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Feb 2009 23:43:58 -0000 Message-ID: <498E1CBC.70001@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:43:56 -0800 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> <498E0B9A.6040507@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <498E0B9A.6040507@adinet.com.uy> Subject: Re: [OM] Done !! - was:Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 00:44:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e1cea259481234514069 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Recovering files successful :-) > Excellent! Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 01:18:37 2009 Received: (qmail 23572 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 00:18:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 00:18:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B2C430292 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839EFD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A99C19FD0A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:18:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C7D19FD04 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 01:18:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e24dc302431869477228 I've heard it said: "The only cause worth fighting for is the lost cause." --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Feb 7, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Andrew Fildes (aspiring to infallibility). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 01:47:01 2009 Received: (qmail 15100 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 00:47:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 00:47:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B14B430299 for ; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 01:47:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e2b85239131529615919 Andrew, I am of those who think English language is an easy language - = at least when written and out of Literature level. And yes, there are several very distinct forms of Spanish. Spanish is difficult: this summer I happened to read two novels by = Gabriel Garc=EDa M=E1rquez: "Cien A=F1os de Soledad" which I had read for t= he = first time in 1974, and "Vivir para Contarla". I'm not a fan of GGM, but = found his last novel ( 2002 ) outstanding - despite there were complete = sentences I didn't understand !! - several nouns and adjectives I had = never read before, all in one sentence. I bet this wouldn't happen even = with the "Ulysses". If I turn to spoken Spanish, I do think that Pedro = Almod=F3var films need subtitles: I'm almost convinced that I understand = spoken French better. A former list member who became a friend of mine, = lives at Almer=EDa, Spain - and very frequently I have to ask him what = does he mean by this or that, and we laugh a lot. Here at this list I enjoyed when someone corrected my Latin when I wrote = "Et tu, Brutus" instead of "Et tu, Brute". I felt it was an obvious joke my correction to David's written English, = but put emoticons and anything just in case - and wrote him privately = too. None of us are native English speakers, but both consider ourselves = native Spanish speakers. Isn't it funny that me, who never walked on any = English-speaking country, 'dares' to correct another native Spanish = speaker on English grammar matter? Perhaps it's not, but I still think = it was a very amusing situation - perhaps because I'm one of those who = always think I should know better :-) Fernando. Andrew Fildes wrote: > I've had many non-native English speakers tell me that it's an easy = > language - it is simplified, after all with no obvious cases or = > complex inflections. That's offset by a high level of irregularity = > and by regional variations, but that's common to any widespread = > language I suspect. I imagine that there are several very distinct = > forms of Spanish. > Now if you want a rule concerning the comment below, it's simple and = > applies to both sides of the pond - > - Don't say 'utilise' when you mean 'use'. > - Don't say 'issue' when you mean 'problem.' (Even if 'issue' is = > right, 'problem' suffices). > It's Occam' Linguistic razor - prefer the simpler word. > > As to a list rule - I don't think we ever correct the several and = > welcome non-native English speakers here. Only those who should know = > better. :-) > Andrew Fildes (aspiring to infallibility). > afildes@people.net.au > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 01:49:50 2009 Received: (qmail 9277 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 00:49:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 00:49:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CB24302DF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554BAD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5DA19FD74 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:49:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6A919FD66 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:49:43 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.63]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97792 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2009 00:49:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: WQoUasIVM1n3cdaygahrdzL52gxBoaG1fjc7iFdG3BTuFv8rLeRt7QHonEx55hgCp8EQ1MEzD0RGzlPBHQhSpPTvCLOXj3nOS0JY2Vbi89yJIZVhwDSQOwaNkxlyHq.DxZ.n1vhAnt5CICGJAlNIv9Lrimso2dcg9KHE8iXSZ0IJTFxEMW1RWV8pRSkazrwpaa_ptoK9EK.vfyJlLdxfWXnye7Ed_nz6UA6Z3FvJN6dfOHRkIuHfeV57p67hIw-- Received: from [69.204.7.197] by web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:49:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:49:42 -0800 (PST) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902031201w273323c3n37f99dc99713b127@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <962997.96043.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 01:49:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e2c2e190277927319144 Gorgeous photos. The night shot is awesome. --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Joel Wilcox wrote: > From: Joel Wilcox > Subject: Re: [OM] a proud moment > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 3:01 PM > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Richard Lovison > wrote: > > It's not too often I can share good news of my > work with the rest of you. > > > > I did an architectural shoot for the school my wife > works for a month > > ago. The pictures were used in dedication plaques > given to the major > > donors of their new athletic center (what I would have > given to go to > > this school when I was a teenager). The web folks > loved the night shot > > of the building so much that they included it in the > main page banner > > (http://www.berkshireschool.org/home/home.asp -- the > one that looks like > > a spaceship). It was taken with the E-1 and 14-54mm > at 14mm, 5 secs, > > f8, and ISO 100. Three individual shots were stitched > together to create > > the panorama. My favorite of the banner shots was the > one with the > > motion blur of the students entering the main > building. > > > > They paid me well... I'm happy. :) > > Richard, that's fantastic. It's a great image! > Congrats! Long live the E-1. > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 01:55:04 2009 Received: (qmail 26816 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 00:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 00:55:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D59A43029A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634C8D0404B for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5071034AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:54:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C195F34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:54:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from invader.comkal.net (invader.comkal.net [192.168.1.41]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 08 Feb 2009 11:54:52 +1100 Message-ID: <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:54:46 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.03 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.03.08.1277) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 01:55:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e2d6814121591313764 Hi Fernando, > What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus > 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. > She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. PhotoRec v6.10 Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ Microsoft Education, the first step to "Planet of the Apes." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 02:03:16 2009 Received: (qmail 10078 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 01:03:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 01:03:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478174302D1 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255FDD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D8B19FD9A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:03:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59F719FD96 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:03:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1417940wfg.26 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:03:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr233371wfc.130.1234054987321; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:03:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497FC70D.4030302@gmail.com> References: <475380.41075.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <497F0C5A.40301@yahoo.co.uk> <497F2B8B.5070106@chucknorcutt.com> <8412DD2369F942838A19E93C3136C318@main> <497F4A7B.1020804@chucknorcutt.com> <57B7270E22CA4944964A81634E7B31CA@main> <497FBAF7.4040807@chucknorcutt.com> <497FC70D.4030302@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:03:07 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902071703s4beaf463xcdba8cfc98ef17d1@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Photos of kids (was: More on noise E3 - iso 3200) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 02:03:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e2f53116341470116606 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:46 PM, montsnmags@gmail.com wrote: > Aside from recordshots/snapshots, I'm not fond of taking > smile-at-the-camera photos ("fake smile" or not), and thus I frequently > get, from my own mum and from my siblings (as parents) "It's a shame you > didn't get them to smile". I don't mind the big smile photos, but for myself studies of the face, light, and all that sort of thing is what I enjoy. I remember my sister-in-law's reaction to a series of photos I took of my nephew once -- something to the effect that I only liked weird and/or serious expressions. Many, many comments on photos tell you more about the commentator than the photo. Anyway, I enjoyed these a lot, Marc. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 02:23:39 2009 Received: (qmail 12619 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 01:23:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 01:23:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DFA43029C for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E59D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00F234AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:23:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBAA34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:23:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n181NSVB012686 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:23:28 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <3CD934D600664ACB944928F582A3CDD3@hudson> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:23:23 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 02:23:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e341a251214673671140 Being suffered from eczema, I like high humidity but not the temperature, RH below 40% is too dry for me. The best condition for me is 24 C and 70% RH. Here in Hong Kong even it reports over 90% RH outside but inside my house it only reach around 75%, at the mean time my wife will certainly turn on the air conditioner due to high temperature then the room RH will be dropped to below 50%. Now my room temperature is 23.5C and RH 57%. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hudson" > Hong Kong in the summer months rarely reaches above 33C but the humidity > can > read over 90%. That is miserable. > > jh > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Barker" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather > > >> I'm glad that you have resisted the temptation of AC, Andrew, but I >> don't envy you the heat. I used to experience heat like that when I >> lived in Aden, Mukalla and Bahrain as a child. More recently I was in >> Phoenix (1990) when it was that hot with high humidity; it was >> bloomin' miserable! >> >> Chin up ... >> >> Chris >> >> On 7 Feb 2009, at 04:46, Andrew Fildes wrote: >> >>> Temp's 45-47deg (114-117oF), humidity under 10%, wind gusts 50-90kmh >>> blowing dead leaves. >>> Reports of 50deg in hot pockets such as on the highway. Wind is like >>> a furnace blast full of dust. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 02:50:32 2009 Received: (qmail 4056 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 01:50:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 01:50:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77443430308 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AC8D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E2519FE17 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:50:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB67E19FDCF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:50:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n181oNWJ015323 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:50:23 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:50:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 02:50:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e3a68280654673671140 The production of rangefinder is much less so the high price. If you need a silent operation, you can only choose RF. If you need good image quality (for film) and RF the Mamiya and Bronica are good choices (may be the only choices for lens changable). Besides noise, mirror vibration is also a big problem. A professional documentary photographer who sold me his whole OM system many years ago said he can hardly handhold the Pent*x 67 and get a tack sharp photo. I'm also suffering from mirror vibration with the 5D II, you really need to hold the camera firm to get a sharp photo at 1/15s to even 1/250s. It was never a problem with E-1 and E-300, may be partly due to the lower resolution and partly due to the mirror vibration. For your Hasselblad, the A16 film magazine is excellent for 645 format, it can take 16 shoots while others only take 15. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Crawford" >I have a Mamiya 645 and the lenses are very, very good. And CHEAP. They >were > fairly cheap even when new and are dirt cheap used. There must be > something > magical about rangefinders that make manufacturers think they can rape us > on > cost. The 645 lenses likely cost more to make, they're more mechanically > complex with their auto-aperture mechanisms. I really like my 645 system. > I'm shooting a lot with the Hasselblad too because I really like square > format. The Hassy lenses are better than the 645 lenses, but you only see > it > in the corners, so I still shoot 645 when I want a rectangle instead of a > square (yeah I know I can crop the square and sometimes I do if the Hassy > is > all I have with me, but I try not to waste film given my financial > situation > now). > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 03:10:09 2009 Received: (qmail 6873 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 02:10:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 02:10:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC464302EB for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A00CD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E69034AC003 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8500534AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so547064anc.35 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.5.15 with SMTP id 15mr2063608ane.50.1234059001940; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:10:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:10:01 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ef72dd5fc6c72718 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 03:10:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e3f01321721499373980 > > But there is NOTHING wrong with the E-1, and yet I'm not ready by that > fact to declare the E-3 a stinker. It seems extremely accurate; it's > just that accuracy is not always precisely what one is looking for. > For now the E-1 has that 'je ne sais quoi" quality -- for me -- and > I'm pretty confident that I know almost exactly what I will get with > it, whereas I'm not at that level of familiarity yet with the E-3 and > get both pleasant surprise as well as disappointments from it. > I believe that my thoughts regarding the color qualities from the E-1 are well documented. If Olympus had just introduced an upgraded E-1 with more resolution and a couple performance enhancements it would have been near perfect. But the E-3 seems to be an entire reinvention of the camera with little to know heritage of the E-1. It's a nice camera, but it ain't no E-1. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 03:20:11 2009 Received: (qmail 27155 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 02:20:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 02:20:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A90E4302E1 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD67D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBDE19FE5B for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:20:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C9319FE3F for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:20:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 23 days 05:44:21 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-4-163.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.4.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n182Jr79021579 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:19:53 -0200 Message-ID: <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:19:33 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> In-Reply-To: <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 03:20:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e415b97342070262475 Hi Ian, Bookmarked already. Too optimistic about having made five more .jpg - there are some corrupted files, fortunately not those I liked best. Working on those which survived or those which can be recovered by a small crop. Thanks a lot. Fernando. Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Fernando, > > >> What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus >> 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. >> She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. >> > > PhotoRec v6.10 > > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.comkal.net/ > > Microsoft Education, the first step to "Planet of the Apes." > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 03:27:33 2009 Received: (qmail 20610 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 02:27:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 02:27:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB0A4302DF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7613BD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDC419FE65 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:27:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA02B19FE0A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:27:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so958984rvb.6 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:27:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.230.7 with SMTP id c7mr1980310wfh.251.1234060046121; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:27:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:27:25 -0800 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0902071827q52865f69h1e62e8c45d0d2173@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 03:27:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e4315200691035110158 To be fair to Olympus, how many 10+ megapixels CCD sensors at 4/3 size are out there? Everyone is moving and have moved to CMOS, so ce la vie. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > > I believe that my thoughts regarding the color qualities from the E-1 are > well documented. If Olympus had just introduced an upgraded E-1 with more > resolution and a couple performance enhancements it would have been near > perfect. But the E-3 seems to be an entire reinvention of the camera with > little to know heritage of the E-1. It's a nice camera, but it ain't no > E-1. > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 03:29:26 2009 Received: (qmail 11696 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 02:29:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 02:29:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC1F4302B5 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEC0D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA28034AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:29:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FCC34AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:29:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30340 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 02:29:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 02:29:18 -0000 Message-ID: <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:29:15 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 03:29:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e438658831073733319 Read this paper on diffraction limits in lenses regarding the diameter of the Airy disk and the effect of its size relative to pixel dimensions. Then see table 3 near the end of the page which gives maximum resolution for different sized sensors for wavelengths in the red, green and blue parts of the spectrum. Chuck Norcutt Richard Lovison wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Richard Lovison wrote: >>> Hmmm, isn't it more like f11 for the E-1 and f8 for the E-3? >> No. > > Where does your data come from? From actual use of the E-1 and E-3 in > the field or a specific review or tech paper you found online? > > Richard -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 03:31:20 2009 Received: (qmail 15062 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 02:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 02:31:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73764302D3 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A59ED0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3775119FE6E for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:31:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCFA19FE69 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:31:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31371 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 02:31:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 02:31:12 -0000 Message-ID: <498E43EE.2010200@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:31:10 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <475380.41075.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <497F0C5A.40301@yahoo.co.uk> <497F2B8B.5070106@chucknorcutt.com> <8412DD2369F942838A19E93C3136C318@main> <497F4A7B.1020804@chucknorcutt.com> <57B7270E22CA4944964A81634E7B31CA@main> <497FBAF7.4040807@chucknorcutt.com> <497FC70D.4030302@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902071703s4beaf463xcdba8cfc98ef17d1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902071703s4beaf463xcdba8cfc98ef17d1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Photos of kids X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 03:31:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e43f8317851529615919 Mother's view of the kid's smiles and expressions only fits into a small subset of otherwise acceptable photos. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:46 PM, montsnmags@gmail.com > wrote: >> Aside from recordshots/snapshots, I'm not fond of taking >> smile-at-the-camera photos ("fake smile" or not), and thus I frequently >> get, from my own mum and from my siblings (as parents) "It's a shame you >> didn't get them to smile". > > I don't mind the big smile photos, but for myself studies of the face, > light, and all that sort of thing is what I enjoy. I remember my > sister-in-law's reaction to a series of photos I took of my nephew > once -- something to the effect that I only liked weird and/or serious > expressions. Many, many comments on photos tell you more about the > commentator than the photo. > > Anyway, I enjoyed these a lot, Marc. > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 03:43:27 2009 Received: (qmail 24182 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 02:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 02:43:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBF34302CB for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A864D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503A819FE87 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9456719FE82 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:43:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so548796anc.35 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:43:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.197.3 with SMTP id u3mr2045208anf.64.1234060998833; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:43:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0902071827q52865f69h1e62e8c45d0d2173@mail.gmail.com> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <7ac27f4f0902071827q52865f69h1e62e8c45d0d2173@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:43:18 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b92b7ca551f3f6ae Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 03:43:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e46cf22577350615338 > > To be fair to Olympus, how many 10+ megapixels CCD sensors at 4/3 size are > out there? Everyone is moving and have moved to CMOS, so ce la vie. I believe that the current "CMOS Rules, CCD Drools" attitude is temporary. Early on, it was recognized that CMOS was inferior to CCD in multiple areas. What Canon did with CMOS is nothing short of amazing and then created a marketing advantage. The common masses now assume that CMOS is the trick and CCDs have moss growing all over them. Meanwhile, high-end sensors for both medium-format and custom sensor applications remain CCD. I predict that it'll take two more years and then we'll see the re-emergence of CCD as the preferred sensor technology because of the advantages which were originally true are still true and the on-chip noise control which has temporarily given CMOS the SNR advantage will have been eliminated. Sorry about the run-on sentence. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 04:05:12 2009 Received: (qmail 18265 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 03:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 03:05:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1546C4302C6 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:05:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EBED0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CA919FEA0 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:05:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781E719FEB0 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:05:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9745 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 03:05:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 03:05:02 -0000 Message-ID: <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:04:59 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 04:05:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e4be8171701470116606 Try Ian's suggested tool before proceeding. More intelligence regarding file structure may lead to better recovery. Worth a try. Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Bookmarked already. > > Too optimistic about having made five more .jpg - there are some > corrupted files, fortunately not those I liked best. > > Working on those which survived or those which can be recovered by a > small crop. > > Thanks a lot. > > Fernando. > > Ian Manners wrote: >> Hi Fernando, >> >> >>> What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus >>> 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. >>> She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. >>> >> PhotoRec v6.10 >> >> >> Cheers >> Ian Manners >> http://www.comkal.net/ >> >> Microsoft Education, the first step to "Planet of the Apes." >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 04:52:37 2009 Received: (qmail 26454 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 03:52:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 03:52:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C251F1C40F46 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5EAD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD69D19FEF4 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:52:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A41D19FEF2 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:52:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d26.23b5324e (34917) for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.150]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA032-5c6f498e56f9219; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:52:27 -0500 Received: from webmail-stg-d02 (webmail-stg-d02.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.23]) by smtprly-mb03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB035-5c6f498e56f9219; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:52:25 -0500 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:52:25 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 208.27.111.119 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41421-STANDARD Received: from 208.27.111.119 by webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:52:25 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB57B7C9C4C871-1DFC-F93@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 04:52:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e5705147481234514069 Remember the previous Antarctica trip? http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/aa-07-worked.shtml Here's how the current batch fared. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/antarctica-2009-worked.shtml A bit disappointing for the new digital back for OM's. Wonder if QA is suffering in a rush to get out a selling profitable product in a bad economy. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 05:38:10 2009 Received: (qmail 10618 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 04:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 04:38:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCEA430326 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016D9D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA7919FF78 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:38:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEE019FF70 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:38:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-127.ctimail.com [61.93.57.127]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n184c0OR023761 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:38:00 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n184c0Ja014410 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:38:00 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8CB57B7C9C4C871-1DFC-F93@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:37:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 05:38:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e61b2153321591313764 I'm not surprised, the 5D II built quality is even not as good as the 10D I once owned, you can feel from the loose CF card door (it is not really loose but when you grip it hard you can feel it is not that rigid). The lens mount is also reported to be a bit loose when compare with the older one. It clamied to be dust and water resistance but under the top LCD cover of my 5D II there are already lots of dust collected while my E-1 was extremely clean. The 5D II's mechanical built does not match with its high quality image feature, a really odd combination. So the high price we paid was mainly went to the electronics. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: > Remember the previous Antarctica trip? > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/aa-07-worked.shtml > > Here's how the current batch fared. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/antarctica-2009-worked.shtml > > > A bit disappointing for the new digital back for OM's. Wonder if QA is > suffering in a rush to get out a selling profitable product in a > bad economy. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 06:04:46 2009 Received: (qmail 22597 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 05:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 05:04:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8CA4302DF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B70DD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3475D34AC002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:04:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2745434AC001 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:04:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2016 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 05:04:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.172.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 05:04:35 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: <8CB57B7C9C4C871-1DFC-F93@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:04:28 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 06:04:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e67ee121671993019900 The 10D was exceptionally strong - when I finally got a 5D to replace mine, I was surprised by the feel of the rear thumbwheel - it felt flimsy in comparison, as if it was half the thickness and had lesser bearings. One of life's disappointments. The decision to downbuild the 10D seems to have occurred with the 20D - I still have one as a backup. It's better than the latest double-digits and even the 5D2 but a degree below the old brick. All part of product line differentiation. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 3:37 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > I'm not surprised, the 5D II built quality is even not as good as > the 10D I > once owned, you can feel from the loose CF card door (it is not > really loose > but when you grip it hard you can feel it is not that rigid). The > lens mount > is also reported to be a bit loose when compare with the older one. It > clamied to be dust and water resistance but under the top LCD cover > of my 5D > II there are already lots of dust collected while my E-1 was extremely > clean. > > The 5D II's mechanical built does not match with its high quality > image > feature, a really odd combination. So the high price we paid was > mainly went > to the electronics. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 08:13:38 2009 Received: (qmail 9338 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 07:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 07:13:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B478430337 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D734D0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C20D1A05BE for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:13:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0B31A059A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:13:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6F6C9734 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:35:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:13:27 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 08:13:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e8622180621702588592 It could also be the smaller mirror, CH. There is less mass to move and stop. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 01:50, C.H.Ling wrote: > I'm also > suffering from mirror vibration with the 5D II, you really need to > hold the > camera firm to get a sharp photo at 1/15s to even 1/250s. It was > never a > problem with E-1 and E-300, may be partly due to the lower > resolution and > partly due to the mirror vibration. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 08:18:23 2009 Received: (qmail 30931 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 07:18:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 07:18:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B041C40302 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F74AD0404A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4AD1A05C5 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:18:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9681A059A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:18:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3561C9756 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:40:01 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:18:14 +0000 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 08:18:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e873f55217350615338 Those are great photos, but of worrying times, Andrew. Whereabouts in the country are you? Chris On 7 Feb 2009, at 22:35, Andrew Fildes wrote: > And another nice photo set - > http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2009/02/04/2482299.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 09:02:11 2009 Received: (qmail 12849 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 08:02:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:02:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215AF1C40F39 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D3BD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DE734AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:02:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148B734AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:02:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DKjQ1b00C0x6nqcA6L240v; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:02:04 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.20.254.166]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DL231b0063cAhRk8YL24Fe; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:02:04 +0000 Message-ID: <00CA311EA9A74573A0ADAAD00452B8E6@daingtanfxkwk9> From: "Darin" To: "OM List" Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:01:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] OM-3 found on Craigs List in Portland, OR X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 09:02:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e9183193123675314703 I wish I could afford it myself, but since I can't, I thought I'd pass it along to the list. No connection! Darin Olympus OM-3 and lenses- in box new/like new Reply to: sale-1020314440@craigslist.org Date: 2009-02-04, 6:56AM Like new OM-3 very little use in box with all documents. Olympus 75-150 f4 zoom unused still in box; 50mm 1.8 with Olympus sky filter, in box; circular polarizer; focusing screen unused still in box; Olympus case in OK condition. $700 for all. OM-3's on ebay are going for $600-$900 so this is a fair price. a.. Location: Tualatin, OR Original URL:http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/pho/1020314440.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 09:27:00 2009 Received: (qmail 12017 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 08:26:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:26:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1021643015B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B9ED0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2934AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:26:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BE434AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:26:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n188Qehr003193 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:26:40 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <72BCDE82FA534AAC97F637852E9A0E24@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:26:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 09:27:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e9754316105368819438 Yes, sure! Eventually I will go for the micro 4/3, there is no more mirror vibration. I wish there are two to three small fixed lenses like what Pent*a has done. At the mean time a Pen F to micro 4/3 adapter will certainly help, I can use my 20/3.5 for street snap, the 40/1.4 will also be a good portrait lens, they are just so.... cute! C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" > It could also be the smaller mirror, CH. There is less mass to move > and stop. > > Chris > > On 8 Feb 2009, at 01:50, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> I'm also >> suffering from mirror vibration with the 5D II, you really need to >> hold the >> camera firm to get a sharp photo at 1/15s to even 1/250s. It was >> never a >> problem with E-1 and E-300, may be partly due to the lower >> resolution and >> partly due to the mirror vibration. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 09:32:36 2009 Received: (qmail 17415 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 08:32:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:32:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AE543011B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B003D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C48119D92E for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48B919D916 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28196 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 08:32:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:32:24 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:32:16 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 09:32:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e98a4170161744846740 In the forested hills to the East of Melbourne. Fortunately (for me and mine) the big fires were well to the north and south of us this time - unlike 1983 which was the last time it was this bad. A couple of my favourite small towns have simply disappeared this time around. We had a couple of small ones and the main road and rail line into my town were cut for a while. This was the basis of my earlier comments on professional skill versus bravery. That pilot did his job extraordinarily well thank goodness but, in the end, it was his job and he was saving himself as well. At the moment, there are almost four hundred firetrucks out in the Victorian bushland. Each is a standard 10 tonner from a rural fire station and has a crew of 6-8 volunteers, members of a community, although they travel to where the fires are burning in a crisis like this. Some have come over the border from New South Wales as well. My local station is a few hoses down the road - they have a truck and a pursuit vehicle. The captain is a real estate agent and his assistant the owner of the local store. They're out there somewhere although the local area is covered by a neighboring station. There's a couple of pix of these volunteers in their yellow overalls with the trucks, in the set. They are ordinary but well trained people with nothing to gain personally and they're going up against terrifying, uncontrollable fires miles wide and as high as a tidal wave. A couple of the big fires have burned out over 100,000 hectares by now. Some come back to find their own homes lost. Occasionally, some don't come back - whole crews have perished with their truck before now. That's bravery for me - they have a choice not to go but do it because it has to be done and someone has to do it. Some more pix have been added - it's worth a look for the colour of the light alone - scary as hell. http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2009/02/04/2482299.htm Death toll is 65 and rising. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 6:18 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Those are great photos, but of worrying times, Andrew. > > Whereabouts in the country are you? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 09:32:59 2009 Received: (qmail 10211 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 08:32:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:32:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C38430217 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970D0D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AC734AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1029434AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1510160wfg.26 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:32:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.141.21 with SMTP id o21mr2138756wfd.33.1234081969012; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:32:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:32:48 -0800 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0902080032v97ec0dme44da2852f30e929@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Released: program for shooting Olympus E-System tethered X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 09:32:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e98bb24109117217770 The URL is here: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/E-Capture-setup.exe. The webpage will be up tomorrow. *** ImageCraft E-Capture Copyright (C) 2009 ImageCraft Creations Inc. web: http://www.imagecraft.com email: richard@imagecraft.com blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com E-Capture is a program that performs a simple task: it captures images from an Olympus E-System camera tethered to the PC's USB port and saves the images to disk as fast as possible. It does not display images, nor does it have an image browser, leaving that job to an image browsing or cataloging program such as ACDSee, Bibble, Lightroom etc. Since it is a very small program, it is much faster to use than Olympus Studio 2 for those who are only interested in the tether support of Studio 2. All E-System cameras are supported, from the original E-1 to the latest E-30. Currently, E-Capture only saves the images to disk. In some future release, we may support direct export to Lightroom. Currently, if you are using Lightroom, you will need to set up Lightroom to auto-import images from E-Capture's output directory. The images are named as a sequence of 2 digits: yymmddhrmn for year, month, day, hour, minutes respectively, and if necessary, an additional 2 digit second value is added to make the file names unique. The file extension is .ORF for RAW files and .JPG for JPEG files. To use E-capture, invoke the program. Then attach your E-System camera to the PC's USB port and turn on the camera. On the camera's control LCD, select "Control" and hit OK. The program will recognize your camera automatically. If you attach another E-System camera when one is already under the program's control, you have the option to choose whether to switch control to the new camera. You may detach the camera at any time except during image downloading. The program is protected, and will not save images after 15 days unless you purchase a license ($10). To purchase, go to http://www.imagecraft.com and click on the "Photo Software" button. Once we process your order, we will send you the registration name and a license key. Enter the info to the Help->"Register Software" dialog box and click "License" to activate your license. -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 09:42:42 2009 Received: (qmail 4029 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 08:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:42:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B891430096 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1587D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F4819D9E5 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:42:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC42B19D9D5 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:42:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29843 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 08:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 08:42:32 -0000 In-Reply-To: <72BCDE82FA534AAC97F637852E9A0E24@main> References: <72BCDE82FA534AAC97F637852E9A0E24@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <382B584C-8957-41A6-B546-33E3E22BF2C8@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:42:25 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 09:42:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498e9b02316521591313764 Panasonic plans to release 14-140mm f4-5.6, 7-14mm f4 AND a 20mm f1.7 for the 4/3rds system this year. That last one would seem to meet your street needs and I'll bet it'll be tiny! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 7:26 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > Yes, sure! Eventually I will go for the micro 4/3, there is no more > mirror > vibration. I wish there are two to three small fixed lenses like > what Pent*a > has done. At the mean time a Pen F to micro 4/3 adapter will > certainly help, > I can use my 20/3.5 for street snap, the 40/1.4 will also be a good > portrait > lens, they are just so.... cute! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 10:34:23 2009 Received: (qmail 23234 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 09:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 09:34:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE671C40F3B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0850D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686D834AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:34:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535C934AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:34:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-176.ctimail.com [61.93.57.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 01:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n189Y8ox008712 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:34:08 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n189Y78n011188 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:34:07 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <72BCDE82FA534AAC97F637852E9A0E24@main> <382B584C-8957-41A6-B546-33E3E22BF2C8@people.net.au> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:34:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 10:34:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ea71f229001585427447 I doubt the size will be small based on Pana's history for the 4/3 lenses, even if they are small, the prices certainly will not :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" > Panasonic plans to release 14-140mm f4-5.6, 7-14mm f4 AND a 20mm > f1.7 for the 4/3rds system this year. > That last one would seem to meet your street needs and I'll bet it'll > be tiny! > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 08/02/2009, at 7:26 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> Yes, sure! Eventually I will go for the micro 4/3, there is no more >> mirror >> vibration. I wish there are two to three small fixed lenses like >> what Pent*a >> has done. At the mean time a Pen F to micro 4/3 adapter will >> certainly help, >> I can use my 20/3.5 for street snap, the 40/1.4 will also be a good >> portrait >> lens, they are just so.... cute! > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 12:44:13 2009 Received: (qmail 14830 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 11:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 11:44:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E699343008D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EABD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C866134AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:43:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EFF34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:43:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.jazztel.es (smtp01.jazztel.es [62.14.3.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 03:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.165.81] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp01.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LW84q-0007pA-TI for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:43:57 +0100 Message-ID: <498EC57C.4040703@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:43:56 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 12:44:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ec58d54761591313764 Hi Rand, Donald,... for your kind words. I was a little shocked when I saw "LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al otro". Anyway, everything is solved. Cheers, Dave Rand E escribi=F3: > Dave, > I wouldn't worry about the small stuff. Most of english "native = > speakers" have difficulties also with the language. And, for the most = > part, we can only communicate in that one language. English is a very = > difficult language and that is true to even those of us who are born = > into it. More power to you and the others that are multi-lingual to = > whatever degree. > The main thing to remember, is what is important. The sharing of = > Olympus and general photographic information. This is a great list and = > it remains that way becaure, for the most part, we pay attention to what = > is important and ignore the trivial stuff. > Rand E. > > P.S. I have likely made several mistakes in the above. I know that my = > fellow members from "across the pond" would have some issues. The = > important thing remains "Do we understand each other ?". > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > David Irisarri wrote: > = >> Here in Spain we have a proverb that it=B4s certainly very accurate for = >> this case. >> >> "A palabras necias, o=EDdos sordos" >> >> I remember some years ago someone told me that "read" can be used as a = >> regular but also irregular verb. I tried to help Ian with his query but = >> if I must write a perfect english, I think it=B4s better to leave. >> >> Ah! y lo de burro, no me doy por aludido. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dave >> >> >> Fernando Gonzalez Gentile escribi=F3: >> = >> = >>> 'read' David; not 'readed' - >>> LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al otro .... >>> >>> Fernando. >>> >>> David Irisarri wrote: >>> = >>> = >>> = >>>> I readed something = >>>> = >>>> = >>>> = >>>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >> = >> = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 13:05:31 2009 Received: (qmail 26826 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 12:05:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 12:05:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AA34302CE for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAA5D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E8C34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:05:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88A334AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:05:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2133146141F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:24:26 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <1E2DC359-48E7-4C4E-9981-8F44CB37D706@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498EC57C.4040703@mirko2.jazztel.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:05:22 +0000 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au><300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net><67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au><300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <7ac27f4f0902062356v53caacb1h878923831fee4c5@mail.gmail.com> <7F0619845D1E40E0A9A1EB4DDAC19DC2@main> <498DCB8D.2010108@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDB7B.5080305@adinet.com.uy> <498DD47C.1050900@mirko2.jazztel.es> <498DDAC7.3050904@verizon.net> <498EC57C.4040703@mirko2.jazztel.es> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 13:05:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498eca8b24803675314703 I speak only a little Spanish, David, but I assumed it meant something = like "the blind leading the blind", since you are both not native- = English speakers. That is, a Uruguayan was correcting a Spaniard's = English: a bit of self-deprecating humour :-) And, as Andrew says, none of us corrects any but who should know = better; and such corrections are always in good humour. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 11:43, David Irisarri wrote: > Hi Rand, Donald,... for your kind words. > > I was a little shocked when I saw "LOL ;^) Un burro le ense=F1a al = > otro". > > Anyway, everything is solved. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 13:28:45 2009 Received: (qmail 2581 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 12:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 12:28:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3AE43009B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C434DD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FF734AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:28:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CE934AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:28:39 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 04:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17021 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 12:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 12:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: <498ECFF2.8090800@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:28:34 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB57B7C9C4C871-1DFC-F93@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB57B7C9C4C871-1DFC-F93@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 13:28:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ecffd115991257536491 Sounds more like design deficiencies than QA problems. Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > Remember the previous Antarctica trip? > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/aa-07-worked.shtml > > Here's how the current batch fared. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/antarctica-2009-worked.shtml > > > A bit disappointing for the new digital back for OM's. Wonder if QA is > suffering in a rush to get out a selling profitable product in a > bad economy. > > Mike > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 14:07:00 2009 Received: (qmail 27153 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 13:06:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 13:06:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25654302F3 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B455CD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A135B34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:06:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5004034AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:06:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0207.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4205C5DE6F7 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:14:41 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0207 Received: by dm0207.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c51fa) id dm0207.4981ce11.b62f15 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:06:52 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JjtjsUhATIQIAAAAB,6e952276aa24bc0eef2ad55076c0c9fa Message-ID: <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:06:50 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 14:07:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ed8f439451529615919 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Read this paper on diffraction limits in lenses regarding the diameter > of the Airy disk and the effect of its size relative to pixel > dimensions. Then see table 3 near the end of the page which gives > maximum resolution for different sized sensors for wavelengths in the > red, green and blue parts of the spectrum. > Thanks for pointing out the article. I did a real world test last night. I took four images of a magazine display with the E-3 and 14-54mm lens mounted on a tripod using four different f stops -- f5.6, f6.3, f8 and f11. The resulting images were cropped displaying the lower left hand corner at 100% with camera sharpening in RAW conversion set to +1. No other sharpening in PS was added. F11 even looks good to me. http://richardlovison.com/E-3%20diffraction%20test.html Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 14:13:49 2009 Received: (qmail 8124 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 13:13:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 13:13:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9371643009B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E6FD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3244634AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:13:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D206B34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:13:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1565851wfg.26 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:13:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.8.17 with SMTP id l17mr2224063wfi.173.1234098822659; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:13:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:13:42 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 14:13:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498eda8d90551234514069 On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> But there is NOTHING wrong with the E-1, and yet I'm not ready by that >> fact to declare the E-3 a stinker. It seems extremely accurate; it's >> just that accuracy is not always precisely what one is looking for. >> For now the E-1 has that 'je ne sais quoi" quality -- for me -- and >> I'm pretty confident that I know almost exactly what I will get with >> it, whereas I'm not at that level of familiarity yet with the E-3 and >> get both pleasant surprise as well as disappointments from it. >> > > > I believe that my thoughts regarding the color qualities from the E-1 are > well documented. If Olympus had just introduced an upgraded E-1 with more > resolution and a couple performance enhancements it would have been near > perfect. But the E-3 seems to be an entire reinvention of the camera with > little to know heritage of the E-1. It's a nice camera, but it ain't no > E-1. > > AG See, I told ya he was a snob. :) I managed a few shots late yesterday afternoon with the E-3 using the VIVID setting. It's not really vivid as in Velvia vivid, but it brings one more within range of the CS2 setting on the E-1. The danger at all times with the E-3 seems to me to be over-saturation of blue. I like its rendering of blue iniitially, but any further increase in overall saturation tends to overdo the blue. Sometimes the remedy is to saturate generally, and then select blues and desaturate them back to what they were. Interestingly, though I was shooting at magic hour, Auto WB put the color temp at 4900. If I change it to 5300 (daylight) in LR, it seems less accurate in a way such that I tend to prefer what I saw with Auto WB. This is weird to me and quite different from the E-1. Overall, the E-3 seems more accurate than the E-1, which is not to say it is necessarily more pleasing by that fact. There is somewhat more to choose from in settings as well. I'm interested in what others are using as their standard settings on the E-3. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:25:01 2009 Received: (qmail 750 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:24:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B21A1C40F5C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88F4D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D7919E4D3 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:24:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE4819E4C7 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:24:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1ACC96B8 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:46:33 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:24:45 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] OT: BBC NEWS | UK | Your video: the Tornado steam train X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:25:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ef94d29481591313764 Sorry, chaps, this is the new locomotive. The other one was just as pretty though. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7745105.stm Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:25:21 2009 Received: (qmail 5993 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:25:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:25:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468B24300D3 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F15DD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F19019E4D4 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EE219E4C7 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECA6C96D9 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:46:49 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:25:01 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:25:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498ef961231081591313764 I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the business! Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:36:48 2009 Received: (qmail 10160 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:36:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:36:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324381C40F3F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D85D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1C234AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:36:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AF134AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20104 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 15:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 15:36:36 -0000 Message-ID: <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:36:34 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:36:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498efc10228091342116753 I agree. There's precious little to choose from in these images. But I think the only thing you've demonstrated is that the 14-54 doesn't resolve more than 4-8MP in the corners regardless of aperture. Chuck Norcutt Richard Lovison wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Read this paper on diffraction limits in lenses regarding the diameter >> of the Airy disk and the effect of its size relative to pixel >> dimensions. Then see table 3 near the end of the page which gives >> maximum resolution for different sized sensors for wavelengths in the >> red, green and blue parts of the spectrum. >> > > Thanks for pointing out the article. > > I did a real world test last night. I took four images of a magazine > display with the E-3 and 14-54mm lens mounted on a tripod using four > different f stops -- f5.6, f6.3, f8 and f11. The resulting images were > cropped displaying the lower left hand corner at 100% with camera > sharpening in RAW conversion set to +1. No other sharpening in PS was > added. F11 even looks good to me. > > http://richardlovison.com/E-3%20diffraction%20test.html > > Richard > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:43:17 2009 Received: (qmail 31091 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:43:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:43:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163BB1C4048A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D26CD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DC519E527 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:43:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D3419E521 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:43:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22275 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 15:43:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 15:43:10 -0000 Message-ID: <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:43:08 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:43:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498efd9530622046811720 What was the reason for building a new steam engine? Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a > little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm > > This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the > business! > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:45:19 2009 Received: (qmail 10310 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:45:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:45:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E54A1C40F55 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E18D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832934AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:45:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA2F34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:45:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@m93.myzen.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [217.155.39.109] (helo=[192.168.1.64]) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LWBqK-0005Fz-Ga for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:45:12 +0000 Message-ID: <498EFE0B.9070508@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:45:15 +0000 From: Martyn Smoothy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [217.155.39.109] Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:45:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498efe0f303351234514069 Fun... :-) Chuck Norcutt wrote: > What was the reason for building a new steam engine? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Chris Barker wrote: > >> I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a >> little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm >> >> This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the >> business! >> >> Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:48:51 2009 Received: (qmail 13122 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:48:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:48:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78661C40F43 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2271D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D5319E57D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459D419E5B7 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AD661496 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:02:36 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c51da) id dm0205.4981cdff.b84969 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:48:45 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jjv7dhatH0gIAAAAB,6531daa69f07387ba6d79109cf439c13 Message-ID: <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:48:43 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:48:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498efee38837927319144 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I agree. There's precious little to choose from in these images. But I > think the only thing you've demonstrated is that the 14-54 doesn't > resolve more than 4-8MP in the corners regardless of aperture. Then from your statement one would assume the 14-54 doesn't resolve more than 4-8MP at center (at 54mm) because I get the same results examining an image dead center. F16 shows the first noticeable amount of degradation. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:56:01 2009 Received: (qmail 25839 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:56:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:56:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C2D1C40F3A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5523D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ECC19E625 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:55:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E930F19E618 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:55:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so251331ywk.80 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:55:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.142.15 with SMTP id p15mr2175169and.33.1234108555135; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:55:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:55:55 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 476c4bcd8edc071b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:56:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f0091302451035110158 > > See, I told ya he was a snob. :) > You think I'm an E-1 snob, well wait till I start expounding on the virtues of Pro 160S. You ain't seen nuthin yet. AG (Film Rules, Digital Drools) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 16:57:51 2009 Received: (qmail 31141 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 15:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 15:57:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12FB1C40F54 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D239AD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8B319E618 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4FC19E611 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:57:45 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so584825anc.35 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:57:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.137.12 with SMTP id k12mr2298583and.124.1234108663984; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 07:57:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498ECFF2.8090800@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CB57B7C9C4C871-1DFC-F93@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> <498ECFF2.8090800@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:57:43 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dc5c75c8e3c130c0 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 16:57:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f00ff178811342116753 What makes this even more disturbing is that most likely the vast majority of those 77 photographers on that trip are anal-retentive types that would barely even let a drop of water touch their cameras. AG (The E-1 Legend Lives On) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 17:36:17 2009 Received: (qmail 28912 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 16:36:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 16:36:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE8C1C40F5E for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985A9D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7273A34AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:36:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38A534AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:36:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11903 invoked by uid 504); 8 Feb 2009 16:36:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Feb 2009 16:36:09 -0000 Message-ID: <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:36:06 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 17:36:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f0a01303709347015869 Could well be. Max theoretical resolution at f/16 is only 1 MP for red, 2MP for green and 4MP for blue. Chuck Norcutt Richard Lovison wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> I agree. There's precious little to choose from in these images. But I >> think the only thing you've demonstrated is that the 14-54 doesn't >> resolve more than 4-8MP in the corners regardless of aperture. > > Then from your statement one would assume the 14-54 doesn't resolve more > than 4-8MP at center (at 54mm) because I get the same results examining > an image dead center. F16 shows the first noticeable amount of degradation. > > Richard > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 17:56:22 2009 Received: (qmail 29600 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 16:56:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 16:56:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372431C40F3A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFC2D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E404C34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC2634AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1618262wfg.26 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.156.17 with SMTP id i17mr2336916wfo.13.1234112177464; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:56:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:56:17 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902080856x918f55eue3e1f3910a8dd04@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 17:56:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f0eb6143991234514069 On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> See, I told ya he was a snob. :) >> > > You think I'm an E-1 snob, well wait till I start expounding on the virtues > of Pro 160S. You ain't seen nuthin yet. Any sort of E-associated snobbery and/or bravado is fine with me. I tend to enjoy seeing your sails billow from time to time, and it doesn't really matter to me whether you're going north or south. ;^) Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 18:59:28 2009 Received: (qmail 19996 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 17:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 17:59:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8514B1C40F47 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF606D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEC419EB8C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A9619EB7A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C11731409C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9A6314091 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:27:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498F1D7E.6040007@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:59:26 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 18:59:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f1d8016501470116606 > > Hottest day ever recorded in Melbourne yesterday - 46.4deg Interesting difference between the north and south. Finally, I thought you over heated blokes might cool off just looking at this one. :-) Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 19:06:05 2009 Received: (qmail 19910 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 18:06:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 18:06:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F271C40F6B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D23DD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE6C34AC028 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:06:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF2A34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:05:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:05:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E53F2883E9 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:16:03 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0205 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d56f2) id dm0205.4981cdff.ba4ff9 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:02:10 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jjx4iaWIGggIAAAAB,bcd73c9df82ee0bd87fa70f20bd7861a Message-ID: <498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:02:09 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 19:06:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f1f0d327541470116606 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Could well be. Max theoretical resolution at f/16 is only 1 MP for red, > 2MP for green and 4MP for blue. > > Richard Lovison wrote: >> Then from your statement one would assume the 14-54 doesn't resolve more >> than 4-8MP at center (at 54mm) because I get the same results examining >> an image dead center. F16 shows the first noticeable amount of degradation. Just to push this a bit further I did a test with the older 14-48mm and results seemed identical to the 14-54. F11 showed barely perceivable softness at 100% and f16 was more noticeable. As I understood it, the limits of the ZD lenses wouldn't be reached to somewhere around 16MB in sensor size. I'm I wrong in this assumption? Anyone else care to join in? Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 19:27:11 2009 Received: (qmail 22442 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 18:27:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 18:27:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7C01C40F5A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650B3D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5989934AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC4534AC002 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 19:27:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f23ff55362336821329 While strolling around the Avenue Louise area in Brussels yesterday afternoon, I came across these urban warriors on two wheels, practicing in front of the court house and the war monument: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#469812283_WzCdQ-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 19:28:37 2009 Received: (qmail 5762 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 18:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 18:28:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E901C40F59 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CFBD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:28:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EB319ED10 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:28:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30F319ED30 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:28:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f20.google.com (mail-fx0-f20.google.com [209.85.220.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so2535299fxm.14 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:28:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.244.4 with SMTP id w4mr415747mur.11.1234117709546; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:28:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:28:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c1bdc18ce31e3bea Message-ID: <9f07ac840902081028k311327fei51b287c279dbe561@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 07/02/2009: Brussels cyclists X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 19:28:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f2455308761234514069 Nice action shot!Sorry I missed your get-together... cheers Jez On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Nathan wrote: > While strolling around the Avenue Louise area in Brussels yesterday > afternoon, I came across these urban warriors on two wheels, > practicing in front of the court house and the war monument: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#469812283_WzCdQ-O-LB > > Nathan > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 19:46:33 2009 Received: (qmail 23429 invoked by uid 0); 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Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F44615F4 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:05:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <37BBF694-2575-4D21-AA71-015908939F6F@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:46:24 +0000 References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 19:46:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f288970031073733319 Probably because they could (:-)), but one of the "official" reasons = is that all the original models of the Peppercorn A1 were scrapped. = But the real reasons will have been to do with the romance of steam, = wonder at the machinery and the fact that they found enough people to = sponsor its construction to the tune of some =A33m. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 15:43, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > What was the reason for building a new steam engine? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Chris Barker wrote: >> I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a >> little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm >> >> This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the >> business! > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 20:02:22 2009 Received: (qmail 31734 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 19:02:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 19:02:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B391F1C4050A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16602D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0893B34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:02:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C134AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:02:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rbinnj@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.47] ([72.79.3.56]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-2.01 (built Jun 13 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KER00CFPGV2KJL1@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:01:50 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <498F2C28.1020305@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:02:00 -0500 From: Russ Butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: OMlist Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Rough in Australia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 20:02:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f2c3e48989347015869 I see the fires are raging http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090208/ap_on_re_au_an/as_australia_wildfires I hope you guys/gals down under are doing ok. Objects, including OM etc. bodies and lenses, can be replaced. Don't delay getting yourselves out of harms way. We all enjoy your company on this list and need your help to keep us straight :-) -- Russ Butler (NJ USA) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 20:05:13 2009 Received: (qmail 31425 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 19:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 19:05:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C441C4050D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE042D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF2519EE7B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8533C19EDD9 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0206.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92B6624AD for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:19:00 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0206 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d56e0) id dm0206.4981ce0d.bb762b for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:05:06 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9JjyzijdoS5AIAAAAB,d519e115c835ddd749df8a538cbaaabc Message-ID: <498F2CE1.6030109@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:05:05 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090207-0, 02/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 20:05:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f2ce9175831257536491 Joel Wilcox wrote: > Interestingly, though I was shooting at magic hour, Auto WB put the > color temp at 4900. If I change it to 5300 (daylight) in LR, it seems > less accurate in a way such that I tend to prefer what I saw with Auto > WB. This is weird to me and quite different from the E-1. Overall, > the E-3 seems more accurate than the E-1, which is not to say it is > necessarily more pleasing by that fact. There is somewhat more to > choose from in settings as well. > > I'm interested in what others are using as their standard settings on the E-3. Joel, I don't have any "standard settings" that I use with the E-3 as I don't shoot jpegs, making all of my choices in Olympus Studio during RAW conversion with further adjustments in PS. I'm still in the experimental stage. One thing I noticed about Lightroom. If I shoot using Daylight WB in the E-1, Lightroom initially shows a WB as 'as shot" with a color temperature of 4950 with a tint of +9 in the develop module (the E-3 is 4900 with a +3 tint). I'm assuming 4950 is their equivalent of Olympus daylight for the E-1. So if you set Lightroom to 5300, as I understand it, you would be getting a much warmer color cast than you would probably want. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 20:06:51 2009 Received: (qmail 1608 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 19:06:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 19:06:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701B21C40F4E for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA56D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC2534AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:06:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AED34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:06:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.249]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1532248rvb.50 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:06:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.157.4 with SMTP id f4mr1455824rve.17.1234120001865; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:06:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm13144123rvb.2.2009.02.08.11.06.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:06:41 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:06:20 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 20:06:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f2d4b48014673671140 they have it on the italian newspaper as well. i wanted to share the gallery mainly for the last photo: http://www.repubblica.it/2006/05/gallerie/esteri/australia-caos/25.html as a child, i wanted to be a firefighter, but women are not allowed to do that in italy. when i moved to the US i still could not do it because i was not a resident/green card holder (nope, not even as volunteer). let's hope those fires are put out soon. On Feb 8, 2009, at 12:32 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: In the forested hills to the East of Melbourne. Fortunately (for me and mine) the big fires were well to the north and south of us this time - unlike 1983 which was the last time it was this bad. A couple of my favourite small towns have simply disappeared this time around. We had a couple of small ones and the main road and rail line into my town were cut for a while. This was the basis of my earlier comments on professional skill versus bravery. That pilot did his job extraordinarily well thank goodness but, in the end, it was his job and he was saving himself as well. At the moment, there are almost four hundred firetrucks out in the Victorian bushland. Each is a standard 10 tonner from a rural fire station and has a crew of 6-8 volunteers, members of a community, although they travel to where the fires are burning in a crisis like this. Some have come over the border from New South Wales as well. My local station is a few hoses down the road - they have a truck and a pursuit vehicle. The captain is a real estate agent and his assistant the owner of the local store. They're out there somewhere although the local area is covered by a neighboring station. There's a couple of pix of these volunteers in their yellow overalls with the trucks, in the set. They are ordinary but well trained people with nothing to gain personally and they're going up against terrifying, uncontrollable fires miles wide and as high as a tidal wave. A couple of the big fires have burned out over 100,000 hectares by now. Some come back to find their own homes lost. Occasionally, some don't come back - whole crews have perished with their truck before now. That's bravery for me - they have a choice not to go but do it because it has to be done and someone has to do it. Some more pix have been added - it's worth a look for the colour of the light alone - scary as hell. http://www.abc.net.au/news/photos/2009/02/04/2482299.htm Death toll is 65 and rising. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/02/2009, at 6:18 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Those are great photos, but of worrying times, Andrew. > > Whereabouts in the country are you? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 20:07:30 2009 Received: (qmail 5018 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 19:07:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 19:07:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DA21C4050D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3458FD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:07:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1822634AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:07:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD99534AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:07:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399246150B for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:26:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:07:20 +0000 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 20:07:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f2d72315831234514069 Am I right in thinking, Joel, that these settings matter only for non- RAW capture? Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 13:13, Joel Wilcox wrote: > > I managed a few shots late yesterday afternoon with the E-3 using the > VIVID setting. It's not really vivid as in Velvia vivid, but it > brings one more within range of the CS2 setting on the E-1. The danger > at all times with the E-3 seems to me to be over-saturation of blue. > I like its rendering of blue iniitially, but any further increase in > overall saturation tends to overdo the blue. Sometimes the remedy is > to saturate generally, and then select blues and desaturate them back > to what they were. > > Interestingly, though I was shooting at magic hour, Auto WB put the > color temp at 4900. If I change it to 5300 (daylight) in LR, it seems > less accurate in a way such that I tend to prefer what I saw with Auto > WB. This is weird to me and quite different from the E-1. Overall, > the E-3 seems more accurate than the E-1, which is not to say it is > necessarily more pleasing by that fact. There is somewhat more to > choose from in settings as well. > > I'm interested in what others are using as their standard settings > on the E-3. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 20:55:17 2009 Received: (qmail 10667 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 19:55:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 19:55:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C071C40F52 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BDDD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D0019F027 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:55:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978E219EF92 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:55:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14068 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 19:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 19:55:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <7F077B67-005D-48DA-92B1-75DBBA9952A5@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:58 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: BBC NEWS | UK | Your video: the Tornado steam train X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 20:55:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f38a57251023412894 I didn't know they were doing that - what a really beautiful thing. Great project. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/02/2009, at 2:24 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Sorry, chaps, this is the new locomotive. The other one was just as > pretty though. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7745105.stm > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 21:00:16 2009 Received: (qmail 14874 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 20:00:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:00:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE331C40F5A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B01D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DA419F050 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:00:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C518019F03C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:00:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14303 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 20:00:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:00:05 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:59:59 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 21:00:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f39d0255682336821329 Huh?! What on earth has reason got to do with it. It's ART! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/02/2009, at 2:43 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > What was the reason for building a new steam engine? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 21:04:20 2009 Received: (qmail 31372 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 20:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:04:18 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851F41C407EC for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C62D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177FC19F06C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F5C19F05A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:04:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15750 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 20:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:04:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <4A9B227B-348C-4A6C-9E39-C44694511CA7@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:04:01 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 21:04:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f3ac4306001838542571 Many of those volunteer firefighters are women. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/02/2009, at 6:06 AM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > as a child, i wanted to be a firefighter, but women are not allowed > to do that in italy. when i moved to the US i still could not do it > because i was not a resident/green card holder (nope, not even as > volunteer). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 21:09:07 2009 Received: (qmail 22531 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 20:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:09:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303A01C40F4E for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F56D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4195719F05A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:09:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F363619EA05 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:09:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (cygnus@ctgonline.org whitelisted) Received: from www.baddogwebhosting.com (69-64-64-52.dedicated.abac.net [69.64.64.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26036 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 14:08:48 -0600 Received: from pool-96-248-130-28.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net (HELO Cygnus-DuallieTwoolie.local) (96.248.130.28) by 69-64-64-52.dedicated.abac.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 14:08:48 -0600 Message-ID: <498F3BDA.8040909@ctgonline.org> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 14:08:58 -0600 From: Paul Braun Organization: Acoustic Connection User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <37BBF694-2575-4D21-AA71-015908939F6F@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <37BBF694-2575-4D21-AA71-015908939F6F@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 21:09:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f3be3275262070262475 Chris Barker wrote: > Probably because they could (:-)), but one of the "official" reasons = > is that all the original models of the Peppercorn A1 were scrapped. = > But the real reasons will have been to do with the romance of steam, = > wonder at the machinery and the fact that they found enough people to = > sponsor its construction to the tune of some =A33m. > = The actual website for the group is www.a1steam.com. Very cool thing that they did. -- = Paul Braun Valparaiso, IN "It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever." - David St. Hubbins "Enjoy every sandwich." - Warren Zevon "The Fountain of Youth is a state of mind." - The Ides of March -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 21:12:31 2009 Received: (qmail 7704 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 20:12:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:12:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4998D1C40F5E for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFBAD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB7519F0B0 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD3119F09A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:12:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17420 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2009 20:12:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:12:20 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> Message-Id: <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:12:14 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Curmudgeon training X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 21:12:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f3caf317469347015869 Watching Gran Torino yesterday - to sharpen up my grumpy old bastard skills (think of it as 'personal development' - we can all improve in our chosen path). There's a nice scene where Clint hands the kid next door three items with the approximate words, 'This'll fix 90% of things around the house' - WD40, ViseGrips and a roll of duct tape. I could almost hear the shade of Walt demanding, "What about the f##king epoxy then?!" Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 21:24:08 2009 Received: (qmail 16481 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 20:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:24:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330811C40F56 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE0D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E84F19F15F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:24:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB719F15D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:23:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 23 days 23:48:15 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-52-58.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.52.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n18KNnbf003523 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:23:49 -0200 Message-ID: <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:23:30 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 21:24:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f3f68273891234514069 Reporting results on file recovery software: One sentence: both should be used. PhotoRec v6.10 recovered completely usable and uncorrupted files only, which means it *repaired* damaged files while recovering at the cost of ignoring at least 2 damaged files. ImageRescue3 recovered both corrupted and uncorrupted files, and I could repair two of them with a minor crop. PhotoRec v6.10 recovered 68 files - one more than the Stylus' own counter ( 67 ) - !!. ImageRescue3 recovered a lot more, but many of them corrupted - two suffered from minor damage and these two were ignored by PhotoRec v6.10. OTOH, PhotoRec v6.10 recovered files which were seen as damaged by ImageResue3, that's why I say PhotoRec v6.10 *repaired* those. Since there are many file recovery software, comparison could fill a large table - so, take this as a simple experiment with one conclusion: use more than two. Nice thing about PhotoRec v6.10: the software package comes in fact with two Utilities, TestDisk & PhotoRec. Again, thanks a lot Ian and Chuck. Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Try Ian's suggested tool before proceeding. More intelligence regarding > file structure may lead to better recovery. Worth a try. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > >> Hi Ian, >> >> Bookmarked already. >> >> Too optimistic about having made five more .jpg - there are some >> corrupted files, fortunately not those I liked best. >> >> Working on those which survived or those which can be recovered by a >> small crop. >> >> Thanks a lot. >> >> Fernando. >> >> Ian Manners wrote: >> >>> Hi Fernando, >>> >>> >>> >>>> What I surely had were four really good beach pictures inside my Stylus >>>> 720SW - until my 15-year daughter entered Menu > Erase > Erase All. >>>> She had good reasons to Erase a selected one ... my fault. >>>> >>>> >>> PhotoRec v6.10 >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ian Manners >>> http://www.comkal.net/ >>> >>> Microsoft Education, the first step to "Planet of the Apes." >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 21:31:26 2009 Received: (qmail 12480 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 20:31:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 20:31:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842F01C4048A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3A7D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B2234AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:31:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BC434AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:31:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 23 days 23:55:36 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-52-58.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.52.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n18KVEcg003847 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:31:14 -0200 Message-ID: <498F4F10.8090409@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:30:56 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498DF8C4.40407@gmail.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Help needed: any possible way to recover them .... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 21:31:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f411e293561499373980 Or just as Moose had said ... ;-) Moose wrote: > > If one recovery app doesn't work, just try another. there > are a lot of free or trial version ones out there. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 22:05:11 2009 Received: (qmail 25963 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 21:05:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 21:05:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284311C40F38 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895F0D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0E534AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:05:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE6C34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:05:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:05:00 +0100 Message-ID: <498F48FF.3060405@picturepedia.org> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:05:03 +0100 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Feb 2009 21:05:00.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[E776DDC0:01C98A30] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 22:05:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f4907201511946193717 Has anyone tested the raw convertors with the E-3, I have found reviews for other olympus cameras but not so much for E-3, is silky pix for example still rated, does studio offer more than master etc? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 22:08:30 2009 Received: (qmail 6261 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 21:08:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 21:08:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCC41C40F59 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1944ED0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF09019F2D5 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:08:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65AA19F20D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:08:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1381431412E for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D1E314124 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:36:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498F49CC.8020603@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:08:28 -0800 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090208-0, 02/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 22:08:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f49ce140141234514069 Here's a landing... and take off for you. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 22:35:44 2009 Received: (qmail 160 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 21:35:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 21:35:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05E11C40F53 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6914CD0404C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF7F34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C4934AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.250]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1560710rvb.50 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.133.14 with SMTP id k14mr3255970rvn.98.1234128935503; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm13514096rvb.6.2009.02.08.13.35.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:35:35 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A9B227B-348C-4A6C-9E39-C44694511CA7@people.net.au> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> <4A9B227B-348C-4A6C-9E39-C44694511CA7@people.net.au> Message-Id: <7E9493F9-B065-4994-B3E1-DBC8660875FC@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:13 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 22:35:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f50309431257536491 i always knew that australia was a civilized country. nico. On Feb 8, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: Many of those volunteer firefighters are women. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/02/2009, at 6:06 AM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > as a child, i wanted to be a firefighter, but women are not allowed > to do that in italy. when i moved to the US i still could not do it > because i was not a resident/green card holder (nope, not even as > volunteer). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 22:43:59 2009 Received: (qmail 21459 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 21:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 21:43:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECB01C40F5D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C65D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D11F19F3DC for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4A519F367 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentrell.ucr.edu (sentrell.ucr.edu [138.23.226.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (pool-71-110-197-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.110.197.153]) by sentrell.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DHK39985 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <07B22E9D-81B8-4B59-95EE-509990B08527@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7E9493F9-B065-4994-B3E1-DBC8660875FC@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:43:49 -0800 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <498DE14F.8090901@adinet.com.uy> <1675814D-3FD8-4E32-8197-581DAC3F122C@people.net.au> <50E68ED6-74F7-4CDF-B62E-05680E680D05@roadrunner.com> <38066A84-5C11-4E18-AFC0-C18EEAC4CA38@people.net.au> <15001A9F-5BAB-4C93-A937-52564762E3C1@people.net.au> <46A446C3-BF4B-49A3-BF00-22C380C3632C@threeshoes.net> <4A9B227B-348C-4A6C-9E39-C44694511CA7@people.net.au> <7E9493F9-B065-4994-B3E1-DBC8660875FC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] The other kind of weather X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 22:43:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f521f6142070262475 which is why it was a penal colony?! they got the best of every (commonwealth/colonialized) nations... On Feb 8, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > i always knew that australia was a civilized country. > > nico. > > > > On Feb 8, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > > Many of those volunteer firefighters are women. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 09/02/2009, at 6:06 AM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > >> as a child, i wanted to be a firefighter, but women are not allowed >> to do that in italy. when i moved to the US i still could not do it >> because i was not a resident/green card holder (nope, not even as >> volunteer). > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 22:50:56 2009 Received: (qmail 31415 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 21:50:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 21:50:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF821C40546 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E82D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6519C34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFDF34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0202.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBB0732254 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:58:42 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0202 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049d5671) id dm0202.4981cde5.bd6231 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:50:49 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jj1O5WCT5JgIAAAAB,6f57d8192514b0424ceaf5917380304a Message-ID: <498F53B8.8050704@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:50:48 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> <498F48FF.3060405@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <498F48FF.3060405@picturepedia.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090208-0, 02/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 22:50:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f53c0315721585427447 SwissPace wrote: > Has anyone tested the raw convertors with the E-3, I have found reviews > for other olympus cameras but not so much for E-3, is silky pix for > example still rated, does studio offer more than master etc? Studio offers more options in its RAW conversion. It provides a photoshop-like curves tool and advanced settings that include: false color suppression aberration compensation distortion correction shading compensation unsharp mask I believe the engine is supposed to be a bit faster as well. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 22:56:29 2009 Received: (qmail 25533 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 21:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 21:56:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D691C40F4C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C5FD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C319634AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:56:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A5234AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:56:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.bbf.449729e1 (34920) for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA035-5c51498f54fedc; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:56:17 -0500 Received: from webmail-stg-d02 (webmail-stg-d02.sim.aol.com [205.188.162.23]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA027-5c51498f54fedc; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:56:14 -0500 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:56:14 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 208.27.111.119 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41421-STANDARD Received: from 208.27.111.119 by webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:56:14 -0500 Message-Id: <8CB584F32045433-25C8-329@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 22:56:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f550d42511073733319 Unfortunately appears to be some of both. Reinforcing the CF door with electrical tape seem to be common. Questionable 24-105 lenses with the kit appear prevalent and one 5D11 even shipped with a missing light shield plate---and that was this person's 3rd try! (FM) The Mike Grouse-o-meter (pat. pend.) detects disturbing activity. Though the numerator is undoubtedly large for problems, the denominator is unknown. The MR Antarctica trip provides a clue as to incidence. So does one just order form B&H and cross your fingers, wait a bit until they have another production run? Less grouse-o-meter activity with the D700 or D3 or A900. CZ lenses in Sony mount seem to get little QA criticism, though some reports of trouble with bad apples in the other mounts. Mike Sounds more like design deficiencies than QA problems. Chuck Norcutt usher99@xxxxxxx wrote: > Remember the previous Antarctica trip? > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/aa-07-worked.shtml > > Here's how the current batch fared. > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/antarctica-2009-worked.shtml > > > A bit disappointing for the new digital back for OM's. Wonder if QA is > suffering in a rush to get out a selling profitable product in a > bad economy. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 23:10:53 2009 Received: (qmail 8120 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 22:10:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 22:10:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEC71C407E0 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C5DD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBF734AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:10:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F1E34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD4BC95F8 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:32:30 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <9336F14D-28D7-44BD-AD93-C25C9DE76E79@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498F49CC.8020603@interisland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:10:41 +0000 References: <498F49CC.8020603@interisland.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 23:10:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f586d59214673671140 That was a very cool landing, but the takeoff was rather foolish. Instead of turning and taxiiing for a better position he takes off over the hill, then turns towards the high ground! Those little aircraft are short of performance at sea level, but at around 8,000ft the performance becomes even worse. And it was a sunset, so that chap will have been flying in the mountains when it was pretty dark. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 21:08, Mike Lazzari wrote: > Here's a landing... and take off for you. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Feb 8 23:12:22 2009 Received: (qmail 28895 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 22:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 22:12:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEE21C40521 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BC9D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1916234AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:12:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A324534AC006 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:12:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139EEC95F8 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7F077B67-005D-48DA-92B1-75DBBA9952A5@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:12:14 +0000 References: <7F077B67-005D-48DA-92B1-75DBBA9952A5@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: BBC NEWS | UK | Your video: the Tornado steam train X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Feb 8 23:12:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f58c617851342116753 I know! I should have enjoyed the shindig at King's Cross. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 19:54, Andrew Fildes wrote: > I didn't know they were doing that - what a really beautiful thing. > Great project. > Andrew Fildes > > > > > On 09/02/2009, at 2:24 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> Sorry, chaps, this is the new locomotive. The other one was just as >> pretty though. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7745105.stm > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 00:38:38 2009 Received: (qmail 4601 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2009 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Feb 2009 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DE31C40F35 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A348D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5427734AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:38:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E6234AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:38:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1729236wfg.26 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr1254185wfv.103.1234136310692; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:38:30 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902081538g3c504dfar58b8f4a3c17b1ab4@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 00:38:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f6cfe22971342116753 That turns out to be a very good question, Chris. I had to shoot some RAW +jpg to make sure I do know what is going on in LR. It appears that picture settings are a kind of in-camera PP and only affect jpg. In camera exposure and WB, of course, are starting-points for RAW development. FastStone viewer shows the tethered RAW and jpg files to look identical. But when I pulled a RAW image into PS via LR without adjustments, it differs from the jpg with respect to picture settings. My old Viewer program allows you (in E-1 development) to apply and/or edit picture settings in RAW development. Silly me, I was hoping LR was actually doing the same thing. Joel W. On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Am I right in thinking, Joel, that these settings matter only for non- > RAW capture? > > Chris > > On 8 Feb 2009, at 13:13, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> >> I managed a few shots late yesterday afternoon with the E-3 using the >> VIVID setting. It's not really vivid as in Velvia vivid, but it >> brings one more within range of the CS2 setting on the E-1. The danger >> at all times with the E-3 seems to me to be over-saturation of blue. >> I like its rendering of blue iniitially, but any further increase in >> overall saturation tends to overdo the blue. Sometimes the remedy is >> to saturate generally, and then select blues and desaturate them back >> to what they were. >> >> Interestingly, though I was shooting at magic hour, Auto WB put the >> color temp at 4900. If I change it to 5300 (daylight) in LR, it seems >> less accurate in a way such that I tend to prefer what I saw with Auto >> WB. This is weird to me and quite different from the E-1. Overall, >> the E-3 seems more accurate than the E-1, which is not to say it is >> necessarily more pleasing by that fact. There is somewhat more to >> choose from in settings as well. >> >> I'm interested in what others are using as their standard settings >> on the E-3. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 01:54:55 2009 Received: (qmail 10933 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 00:54:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 00:54:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E301750B19 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8CAD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A3D34AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D2734AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so1753117wfg.26 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.154.14 with SMTP id b14mr2267214wfe.69.1234140888560; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:54:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8CB584F32045433-25C8-329@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB584F32045433-25C8-329@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:54:48 -0800 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0902081654s563cd98ar44135468e572674@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 01:54:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f7edf260761234514069 I always wonder how the E-1 or E-3 will fare, but I guess lowly Olympus owners cannot afford such exotic trips. -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 02:00:02 2009 Received: (qmail 20019 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 01:00:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 01:00:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62601C40F4F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:59:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F3FD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1AF19F9BA for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:59:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572A419F9B9 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:59:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.harbornet.com (smtp2.harbornet.com [199.2.132.27]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [209.91.54.178]) by smtp2.harbornet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B42380205 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:44:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498F800A.2010909@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:59:54 -0800 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <72BCDE82FA534AAC97F637852E9A0E24@main> <382B584C-8957-41A6-B546-33E3E22BF2C8@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <382B584C-8957-41A6-B546-33E3E22BF2C8@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 02:00:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f8012156222070262475 DAMN! A 20mm f1.7 might just be the push to get me into a 4/3 system body. If it is a pancake I'm a goner! Jim Couch Andrew Fildes wrote: > Panasonic plans to release 14-140mm f4-5.6, 7-14mm f4 AND a 20mm > f1.7 for the 4/3rds system this year. > That last one would seem to meet your street needs and I'll bet it'll > be tiny! > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 08/02/2009, at 7:26 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > > >> Yes, sure! Eventually I will go for the micro 4/3, there is no more >> mirror >> vibration. I wish there are two to three small fixed lenses like >> what Pent*a >> has done. At the mean time a Pen F to micro 4/3 adapter will >> certainly help, >> I can use my 20/3.5 for street snap, the 40/1.4 will also be a good >> portrait >> lens, they are just so.... cute! >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 02:03:06 2009 Received: (qmail 29990 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 01:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 01:03:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151931C40F54 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350F9D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D66C34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:02:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ED434AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:02:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.harbornet.com (smtp2.harbornet.com [199.2.132.27]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [209.91.54.178]) by smtp2.harbornet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC41380253 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:47:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498F80BF.8050502@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:02:55 -0800 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <72BCDE82FA534AAC97F637852E9A0E24@main> <382B584C-8957-41A6-B546-33E3E22BF2C8@people.net.au> <498F800A.2010909@spokeandsprocket.com> In-Reply-To: <498F800A.2010909@spokeandsprocket.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 02:03:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f80c9211601838542571 Oh double Damn! I just did a Google search - check this link out: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2008-09/12/20mmF17-L.jpg I'm toast! - Imagine that lens on the projected Olympus micro 4/3 body! Jim Couch Jim Couch wrote: > DAMN! > > A 20mm f1.7 might just be the push to get me into a 4/3 system body. If > it is a pancake I'm a goner! > > Jim Couch > > Andrew Fildes wrote: > >> Panasonic plans to release 14-140mm f4-5.6, 7-14mm f4 AND a 20mm >> f1.7 for the 4/3rds system this year. >> That last one would seem to meet your street needs and I'll bet it'll >> be tiny! >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 02:08:44 2009 Received: (qmail 17309 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 01:08:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 01:08:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28931C40546 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C429BD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B308F34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:08:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A2C34AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:08:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikoholic@spokeandsprocket.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.harbornet.com (smtp2.harbornet.com [199.2.132.27]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [209.91.54.178]) by smtp2.harbornet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43E0380443 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:53:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498F8215.9090507@spokeandsprocket.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:08:37 -0800 From: Jim Couch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Curmudgeon training X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 02:08:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f821c100751073733319 Epoxy is for the remaining 10%, and requires a level of skill well beyond that of your typical WD40, ViceGrip wielding duct taper! Jim Couch Andrew Fildes wrote: > Watching Gran Torino yesterday - to sharpen up my grumpy old bastard > skills (think of it as 'personal development' - we can all improve in > our chosen path). > There's a nice scene where Clint hands the kid next door three items > with the approximate words, 'This'll fix 90% of things around the > house' - WD40, ViseGrips and a roll of duct tape. > I could almost hear the shade of Walt demanding, "What about the > f##king epoxy then?!" > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 03:00:30 2009 Received: (qmail 23193 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 02:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 02:00:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDA51C40F64 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2302D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:00:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC83219FAF1 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:00:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF0719FAE8 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:00:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25252 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 02:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 02:00:20 -0000 Message-ID: <498F8E32.2090608@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:00:18 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com> <498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 03:00:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f8e3e121711823421471 It's not the limit of the lens that's in question, only the limit of the lens at a particular aperture. Small sensors with small pixels run up against the limits of diffraction faster than large sensors with large pixels. Simple as that. Diffraction is worse at small apertures. If you had a 16 MP 4/3 sensor you would not able to shoot at smaller apertures than about f/5.6 in order to reach full resolution at the sensor. Small sensors can perform but they take high quality lenses that perform well at apertures larger than we are accustomed to in 35mm. Chuck Norcutt Richard Lovison wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Could well be. Max theoretical resolution at f/16 is only 1 MP for red, >> 2MP for green and 4MP for blue. >> >> Richard Lovison wrote: >>> Then from your statement one would assume the 14-54 doesn't resolve more >>> than 4-8MP at center (at 54mm) because I get the same results examining >>> an image dead center. F16 shows the first noticeable amount of degradation. > > Just to push this a bit further I did a test with the older 14-48mm and > results seemed identical to the 14-54. F11 showed barely perceivable > softness at 100% and f16 was more noticeable. > > As I understood it, the limits of the ZD lenses wouldn't be reached to > somewhere around 16MB in sensor size. I'm I wrong in this assumption? > Anyone else care to join in? > > Richard > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:03:13 2009 Received: (qmail 25871 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:03:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:03:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238EF1C40F51 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A45D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9229819FC42 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F2119FC49 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:03:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so307443ywk.80 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:03:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.109.13 with SMTP id h13mr1241013anc.21.1234148585153; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:03:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0902081654s563cd98ar44135468e572674@mail.gmail.com> References: <8CB584F32045433-25C8-329@webmail-stg-d02.sysops.aol.com> <7ac27f4f0902081654s563cd98ar44135468e572674@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:03:05 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ad7e59031f1cb1f9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] MR trip to Antarctica X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:03:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f9cf1228494673671140 > > I always wonder how the E-1 or E-3 will fare, but I guess lowly Olympus > owners cannot afford such exotic trips. > I know there are a handful of Olympus owners that could and do. However, we probably tend to do it either on our own or as part of another "professional purpose" in the journey. >From personal experience in putting on a workshop in a remote location, all participants used E-1 based systems. Of our particular sampling of four, there were no failures nor have any of us experienced as much as a hickup before or after. And to extend this to another level, here on this list we have far more E-1 and E-3 bodies represented than there were cameras on that luminous-landscape trip. A friend here in Iowa had one E-3 suffer from a broken shutter, but otherwise we've had almost a completely clear reliability record. One driving force behind my purchasing the E-1 was the extreme reliability experienced during the first year and a half of general availability. I frequently subject my E-1 to the same conditions indicated by MR of the Antartica trip. I'm completely mystified by the failures his shipmates experienced. I know that my E-1 is built a bit better than the average bear, but maybe I'm a bit naive when it comes to the level of expectation I should have in how physically capable a $3000 camera should be. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:07:22 2009 Received: (qmail 13042 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:07:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7294A1C40F5A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D93D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8058719FC64 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:07:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D221B19FC42 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:07:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-139.ctimail.com [61.93.57.139]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n1937CqL018322 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:07:12 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n1937BSO008688 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:07:11 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <5066E44193474612BD84544B1A324954@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com><498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> <498F8E32.2090608@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:07:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:07:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f9dea125151869477228 Isn't it the diffraction limit is also related to the lens focal length? As I remember the shorter the lens the faster it reach the diffraction limit. If you have a long lens, you can stop down more before it reach the diffraction limit. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > It's not the limit of the lens that's in question, only the limit of the > lens at a particular aperture. Small sensors with small pixels run up > against the limits of diffraction faster than large sensors with large > pixels. Simple as that. Diffraction is worse at small apertures. If > you had a 16 MP 4/3 sensor you would not able to shoot at smaller > apertures than about f/5.6 in order to reach full resolution at the > sensor. > > Small sensors can perform but they take high quality lenses that perform > well at apertures larger than we are accustomed to in 35mm. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:12:44 2009 Received: (qmail 31508 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:12:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:12:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB7D1C40F43 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E3FD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6426119FC71 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:12:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB9119FC5D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:12:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so640884anc.35 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:12:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.109.13 with SMTP id h13mr1244013anc.21.1234149157684; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:12:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <498F8E32.2090608@chucknorcutt.com> References: <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com> <498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> <498F8E32.2090608@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:12:37 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 196a94db135c6931 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:12:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f9f2c241951869477228 Intriguing observations. I find it amazing that the 14-54 which obviously has a limit of 4-8MP of effective resolution shows far more resolving ability on the E-3 than my E-1. If the lens truly was this limited, we would see very little difference in image quality between the 5MP sensor and the 10MP sensor. As to diffraction limits, there is theory of diffraction and then actual practice of diffraction. The airy disk isn't a "bubble" with all or nothing blurring, but it is a general fall-off with a penumbra. As such, diffraction limits are not hard barriers, but general loss of clarity in the extremes of resolution. The more diffraction you throw at it, the wider the penumbra and eventually the umbra of the airy disk covers enough neighboring pixels to finally limit the maximum effective resolution. Since the diffraction limits are somewhat soft, a very slight sub-one pixel sharpening will usually counteract and invert the penumbra hence recovering the details otherwise obsured or diminished by the diffraction. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:15:17 2009 Received: (qmail 7992 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:15:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E481C40F50 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFF3D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3610119FC8D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:15:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26D019FC85 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:15:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090209031511.HRQS3752.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:15:11 -0500 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id DfFA1b00P4Z9Gks02fFBoK; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:15:11 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cQsfQKP6Z5IA:10 a=oEWaQDCjwYUA:10 a=wGA6kVOSO7BIJks1p8kA:9 a=734upibm7Jnk13KsgRWYMO5uHuAA:4 a=-ZQhYGXY2L8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <50FC05EC642B491E98972A9DC75B695E@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net><498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:15:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:15:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498f9fc5174371234514069 For what this may or may not be worth, Kodaks sensors as in the E1 have reputation for great color. The E3 has a Panasonic sensor, which might account for the difference. Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:37:12 2009 Received: (qmail 27730 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:37:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:37:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918C21C40F3D for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA926D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AEF19FD8F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:37:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DBF19FD8A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:37:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n193b19a032034 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:37:02 +1100 Message-Id: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:37:01 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:37:01 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:37:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fa4e8235701470116606 > C.H.Ling <> wrote: > > Isn't it the diffraction limit is also related to the lens focal length? > As > I remember the shorter the lens the faster it reach the diffraction > limit. > If you have a long lens, you can stop down more before it reach the > diffraction limit. > Simplistically, the amount of diffraction is related to the "size of the hole" through which the light passes, so yes a longer lens can be stopped down further than a short lens before it has a diffraction "problem". A 200mm lens at f16 has an effective aperture of 12.5mm, same as a 50mm lens at f4. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:41:46 2009 Received: (qmail 1170 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:41:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:41:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20611C40F5A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F8FD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B1719FD8F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:41:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B26319FCE6 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:41:40 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n193fd5v027878 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:41:39 +1100 Message-Id: <200902090341.n193fd5v027878@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:41:39 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:41:39 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:41:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fa5fa153911234514069 > Sue Pearce <> wrote: > > For what this may or may not be worth, Kodaks sensors as in the E1 have > reputation for great color. The E3 has a Panasonic sensor, which might > account for the difference. > So we might expect that the E-1 would be better for American scenes (portraits ?) and the E-3 better for Japanese scenes (portraits ?) ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:48:04 2009 Received: (qmail 29395 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:48:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:48:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820801C40F42 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912A1D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8625B34AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:47:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD4334AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:47:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rlovison@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0105.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dm0201.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0105.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E365DA609 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:51:53 -0800 (PST) X-Eon-Dm: dm0201 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 049c5148) id dm0201.4981cddc.c0c83c for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:43:57 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMZKi9Jj6Z9seYPhwIAAAAB,aa22cde1b9baecfe55a9158788a77ac3 Message-ID: <498FA67D.5020206@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:43:57 -0500 From: Richard Lovison User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com> <498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> <498F8E32.2090608@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090208-1, 02/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:48:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fa774223881585427447 Ken Norton wrote: > Intriguing observations. I find it amazing that the 14-54 which obviously > has a limit of 4-8MP of effective resolution shows far more resolving > ability on the E-3 than my E-1. If the lens truly was this limited, we > would see very little difference in image quality between the 5MP sensor and > the 10MP sensor. I am so confused... I need to get back to taking images. Here's where it all started. At this webpage: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camera-sensor-size.htm the diffraction estimator indicates that a four-thirds sensor at 10MP has a diffraction limited aperture at 7.9. It seems my home tests confirm this with f11 beginning to show the signs of softening. Chuck indicates it's at f5.6 not f8 and drew a conclusion that my results were possibly due to the 14-54mm not resolving more than 4-8MP. Huh??? Where's my OM-1 and vinyl records. I'm starting to self-destruct. Oh well... this is what I get for diving to deeply into tech issues I don't understand. Richard -- Richard Lovison Photography http://www.richardlovison.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 04:51:52 2009 Received: (qmail 8163 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 03:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 03:51:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644FC1C40F58 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059D8D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD12319FDD5 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:51:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB5419FCE6 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:51:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 807 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 03:51:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 03:51:44 -0000 Message-ID: <498FA84D.7000906@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:51:41 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDC16.9060108@chucknorcutt.com> <498E0898.1050705@gmail.com> <498E437B.9090408@chucknorcutt.com> <498ED8EA.9080103@gmail.com> <498EFC02.7070702@chucknorcutt.com> <498EFEDB.4070006@gmail.com> <498F09F6.20708@chucknorcutt.com><498F1E21.4020200@gmail.com> <498F8E32.2090608@chucknorcutt.com> <5066E44193474612BD84544B1A324954@main> In-Reply-To: <5066E44193474612BD84544B1A324954@main> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 04:51:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fa858139771342116753 Yes, indirectly related to focal length since focal ratio is the important measure for diffraction. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > Isn't it the diffraction limit is also related to the lens focal length? As > I remember the shorter the lens the faster it reach the diffraction limit. > If you have a long lens, you can stop down more before it reach the > diffraction limit. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > >> It's not the limit of the lens that's in question, only the limit of the >> lens at a particular aperture. Small sensors with small pixels run up >> against the limits of diffraction faster than large sensors with large >> pixels. Simple as that. Diffraction is worse at small apertures. If >> you had a 16 MP 4/3 sensor you would not able to shoot at smaller >> apertures than about f/5.6 in order to reach full resolution at the >> sensor. >> >> Small sensors can perform but they take high quality lenses that perform >> well at apertures larger than we are accustomed to in 35mm. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 05:11:43 2009 Received: (qmail 6540 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 04:11:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 04:11:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205351C40521 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA47D0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A04834AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:11:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D45434AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:11:35 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-125.ctimail.com [61.93.57.125]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:11:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n194BXXS022008 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:11:33 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n194BW4v028088 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:11:33 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:11:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 05:11:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498facff196618512572685 Thanks for Wayne and Chuck's confirmation, then we may only be able to shoot at F4 with the 7-14 at 7mm :-) I would prefer to use my 16mm fisheye with OM5D II. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Harridge" > >> C.H.Ling <> wrote: >> >> Isn't it the diffraction limit is also related to the lens focal length? >> As >> I remember the shorter the lens the faster it reach the diffraction >> limit. >> If you have a long lens, you can stop down more before it reach the >> diffraction limit. >> > > Simplistically, the amount of diffraction is related to the "size of the > hole" through which the light passes, so yes a longer lens can be stopped > down further than a short lens before it has a diffraction "problem". A > 200mm lens at f16 has an effective aperture of 12.5mm, same as a 50mm lens > at f4. > > ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 05:17:31 2009 Received: (qmail 25255 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 04:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 04:17:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F4F1C40F56 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B012CD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8BA34AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:17:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BB234AC001 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:17:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k57so1336158rnd.13 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:17:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.9.19 with SMTP id 19mr26675ani.8.1234153045471; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:17:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:17:25 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b9f7715acc913336 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 05:17:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fae5b61361744846740 > > Thanks for Wayne and Chuck's confirmation, then we may only be able to > shoot > at F4 with the 7-14 at 7mm :-) I would prefer to use my 16mm fisheye with > OM5D II. Sorry, at 7mm, the lens is diffraction limited at F1.4 according to the calculations. ;) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 07:29:16 2009 Received: (qmail 6950 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 06:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 06:29:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A43C1C40F4F for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4CCD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:29:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC381A0106 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:29:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87901A0102 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:29:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50705 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LWPdi-0005dQ-6a for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:29:06 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:29:04 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: New photo from my OM-system Thread-Index: AcmKf7Pf8lRLfPZyEd2rJwAKlchBUg== Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: [OM] New photo from my OM-system X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 07:29:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fcd3c99978512572685 I've added a new OM photo to my website & blog tonight. I think it is a powerful one of my grandpa's old cat, Molly. http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com Shot with an OM-4T on Tmax 3200 (EI 1600), using a Zuiko 50/1.4 with serial over 1,100,000 -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 07:44:28 2009 Received: (qmail 22664 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 06:44:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 06:44:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD5D1C40F40 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2431BD0404A for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BD534AC003 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:44:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BE134AC002 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:44:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B277A461596 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:03:23 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902081538g3c504dfar58b8f4a3c17b1ab4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:44:18 +0000 References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> <9e908c1f0902081538g3c504dfar58b8f4a3c17b1ab4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 07:44:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 498fd0cc103971234514069 It must be, Joel, that the settings are applied initially as the default for your viewing, just as the AutoWB setting is used to give you your first look in Camera Raw in PS. Perhaps, LightRoom strips the settings prior to export to PS. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 23:38, Joel Wilcox wrote: > It appears that picture settings are a kind of in-camera PP and only > affect jpg. In camera exposure and WB, of course, are starting-points > for RAW development. FastStone viewer shows the tethered RAW and jpg > files to look identical. But when I pulled a RAW image into PS via LR > without adjustments, it differs from the jpg with respect to picture > settings. > > My old Viewer program allows you (in E-1 development) to apply and/or > edit picture settings in RAW development. Silly me, I was hoping LR > was actually doing the same thing. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 12:09:03 2009 Received: (qmail 13320 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 11:09:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 11:09:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27C41C4048A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70FCD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A447319E0CA for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA2719E0B2 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KES00APYPMQUNE1@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:08:50 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-224-166-224.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.166.224]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:08:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:08:50 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoUUACKdj0kY4Kbg/2dsb2JhbACBaIhUxBsHhBMG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,404,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="411420430" References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> Subject: [OM] deleting image files in camera. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 12:09:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49900ecf281738512572685 Someone posted a message recently opining that unwanted image files should not be deleted in camera. What was the reason for suggesting that unwanted images should not be deleted by exercising the trash-can button on the camera? jh -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 12:14:07 2009 Received: (qmail 32300 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 11:14:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 11:14:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCAA430124 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F31D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2011419E108 for ; 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d="scan'208";a="423362489" References: <498F2C28.1020305@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Rough in Australia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 12:14:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49900fff230931023412894 According to the early CBC news this morning a lot of these fires are being attributed to people who are running around with boxes of matches. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Butler" <> To: "OMlist Olympus Camera Discussion" <> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: [OM] Rough in Australia >I see the fires are raging > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090208/ap_on_re_au_an/as_australia_wildfires > > I hope you guys/gals down under are doing ok. > Objects, including OM etc. bodies and lenses, can be replaced. > Don't delay getting yourselves out of harms way. > > We all enjoy your company on this list and need your help to keep us > straight :-) > > -- > Russ Butler (NJ USA) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 12:37:42 2009 Received: (qmail 30967 invoked by uid 0); 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(218.215.161.2) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 11:37:30 -0000 In-Reply-To: <437D0FFF1FEC4892ABD8A5CA975B1AF9@hudson> References: <498F2C28.1020305@verizon.net> <437D0FFF1FEC4892ABD8A5CA975B1AF9@hudson> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <906CBA49-4BB5-4FAF-B2A2-374385CAF55C@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:37:21 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Rough in Australia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 12:37:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990158690101470116606 They always are but, frankly, on Saturday you could have started a bushfire by sneezing sideways. People like to blame evildoers because it gives them someone to hate. I've seen fires started by sparks from rail wheels, car accidents, twigs brushing power lines. Other causes are sun shining through glass bottles, discarded cigarettes, clumsy picnics, etc. And then old fires reignite when the area dries out again... Some are started by arson but not as many as some think and they are almost uncatchable. One around here was a young man who was part of a fire brigade and enjoyed the glory of the call-outs. When he was caught, the community was not kind to him... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/02/2009, at 10:14 PM, John Hudson wrote: > According to the early CBC news this morning a lot of these fires > are being > attributed to people who are running around with boxes of matches. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 13:27:38 2009 Received: (qmail 11595 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 12:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 12:27:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AEF1C40F4A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FBDD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496F19E35D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:27:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D69B19E345 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:27:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13025 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 12:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.105?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 12:27:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:27:26 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> In-Reply-To: <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 13:27:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990213a98011529615919 But your OM5D II has small pixels too. For diffraction limited shooting you'll be limited to about f/9-10. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > Thanks for Wayne and Chuck's confirmation, then we may only be able to shoot > at F4 with the 7-14 at 7mm :-) I would prefer to use my 16mm fisheye with > OM5D II. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Harridge" > >>> C.H.Ling <> wrote: >>> >>> Isn't it the diffraction limit is also related to the lens focal length? >>> As >>> I remember the shorter the lens the faster it reach the diffraction >>> limit. >>> If you have a long lens, you can stop down more before it reach the >>> diffraction limit. >>> >> Simplistically, the amount of diffraction is related to the "size of the >> hole" through which the light passes, so yes a longer lens can be stopped >> down further than a short lens before it has a diffraction "problem". A >> 200mm lens at f16 has an effective aperture of 12.5mm, same as a 50mm lens >> at f4. >> >> ...Wayne > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 13:40:49 2009 Received: (qmail 23849 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 12:40:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 12:40:48 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5361C40F49 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85B6D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370C19E3B8 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:40:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFE919E3B1 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:40:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19Cecbo010990 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:40:38 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:40:35 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 13:40:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49902451318858512572685 F9-10 is ok for me, over 95% of my shots were below F8 and less than 1% were above, I only remember I had a few F16 shots with the 80 macro for insects. F22? Never touch that. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > But your OM5D II has small pixels too. For diffraction limited shooting > you'll be limited to about f/9-10. > > Chuck Norcutt > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Thanks for Wayne and Chuck's confirmation, then we may only be able to >> shoot >> at F4 with the 7-14 at 7mm :-) I would prefer to use my 16mm fisheye with >> OM5D II. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wayne Harridge" >> >>>> C.H.Ling <> wrote: >>>> >>>> Isn't it the diffraction limit is also related to the lens focal >>>> length? >>>> As >>>> I remember the shorter the lens the faster it reach the diffraction >>>> limit. >>>> If you have a long lens, you can stop down more before it reach the >>>> diffraction limit. >>>> >>> Simplistically, the amount of diffraction is related to the "size of the >>> hole" through which the light passes, so yes a longer lens can be >>> stopped >>> down further than a short lens before it has a diffraction "problem". A >>> 200mm lens at f16 has an effective aperture of 12.5mm, same as a 50mm >>> lens >>> at f4. >>> >>> ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 13:45:21 2009 Received: (qmail 13603 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 12:45:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 12:45:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2757F430137 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF71D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FF019E3D7 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9C819E3D0 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2017654wfg.26 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:45:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.35.4 with SMTP id n4mr2841666wfj.177.1234183512813; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:45:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902070852w67f35775p8129a476e4b632e5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0902080513p4c599dcet7fa2a079ce9c22bd@mail.gmail.com> <306677AB-6F4F-4A82-8654-7826DA745F24@threeshoes.net> <9e908c1f0902081538g3c504dfar58b8f4a3c17b1ab4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:45:12 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902090445h7d0fdac6u88e90be9b30eb16d@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 13:45:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499025614391946193717 I wasn't being very clear. Faststone Viewer seems to have its own values for viewing and I can't tell the difference between tethered jpg and RAW files using FS alone. Faststone seems to apply an auto levels for purposes of viewing (something I haven't figured out how to turn off). It's a pity, as I like it for sorting and organizing better than anything else. In Lightroom I can see the effect of the picture settings on the jpg and the difference to the RAW. I should probably just learn to do all the handling in Lightroom. Joel W. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > It must be, Joel, that the settings are applied initially as the > default for your viewing, just as the AutoWB setting is used to give > you your first look in Camera Raw in PS. Perhaps, LightRoom strips > the settings prior to export to PS. > > Chris > > On 8 Feb 2009, at 23:38, Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> It appears that picture settings are a kind of in-camera PP and only >> affect jpg. In camera exposure and WB, of course, are starting-points >> for RAW development. FastStone viewer shows the tethered RAW and jpg >> files to look identical. But when I pulled a RAW image into PS via LR >> without adjustments, it differs from the jpg with respect to picture >> settings. >> >> My old Viewer program allows you (in E-1 development) to apply and/or >> edit picture settings in RAW development. Silly me, I was hoping LR >> was actually doing the same thing. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 14:02:41 2009 Received: (qmail 32 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 13:02:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 13:02:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4015243013D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5741AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4461F34AC02A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:02:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39C634AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:02:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2024576wfg.26 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:02:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.42.6 with SMTP id u6mr2851486wfj.144.1234184554050; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:02:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:02:34 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902090502g356175aj740771c08aac7262@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] deleting image files in camera. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 14:02:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49902971272501470116606 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:08 AM, John Hudson wrote: > Someone posted a message recently opining that unwanted image files should > not be deleted in camera. > > What was the reason for suggesting that unwanted images should not be > deleted by exercising the trash-can button on the camera? The main argument is that deleting in-camera makes it harder to rescue those specific files later if you need to. Another argument (of a wholly different order) is aesthetic: you might exercise better judgment about deleting images if you see them on the computer first. Nevertheless, I personally delete images off the card all of the time. In my case, accidental erasure of a whole card is not among my arsenal of bad habits and I don't let others get into my camera bag to look at and edit my photos in-camera. If it did happen, presumably I would know not to use that card until I had run a recovery process, assuming I had discovered that it happened. In any case, deleting single images off the card has nothing to do with that scenario. YMMV. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 14:28:40 2009 Received: (qmail 19184 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 13:28:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 13:28:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0771F4300ED for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59F4D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D877334AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5AB34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (andrew.gullen@sympatico.ca whitelisted) Received: from blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.84]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP65 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:32 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [69.158.3.217] X-Originating-Email: [andrew.gullen@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Received: from [69.158.3.217] ([69.158.3.217]) by BLU0-SMTP65.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:28:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: From: Andrew Gullen Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:23 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 13:28:31.0740 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D0393C0:01C98ABA] Subject: Re: [OM] New photo from my OM-system X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 14:28:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49902f88241443675314703 Very nice - that really gives a feel for the cat, and the Tmax 3200 is perfect for it. What did you develop in: D76? Andrew On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:29, Chris Crawford wrote: > I've added a new OM photo to my website & blog tonight. I think it is a > powerful one of my grandpa's old cat, Molly. > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com > > Shot with an OM-4T on Tmax 3200 (EI 1600), using a Zuiko 50/1.4 with > serial > over 1,100,000 > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 14:38:59 2009 Received: (qmail 25872 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 13:38:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 13:38:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035E11C40F4F for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657F2D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACF34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C115734AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:38:52 +0100 Message-ID: <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:38:51 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> In-Reply-To: <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 13:38:52.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF08EB40:01C98ABB] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 14:38:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499031f382029117217770 This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically depending upon which lens is attached something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done automatically. The difference in colour between the E1 and E3 doesn't bother me too much, it can always be changed to be near as dammit, but the fact that I can't get sharp results with my very expensive 180/2 (my wife still reminds me about how much I paid for it!) is perturbing me - shooting wide open and on a tripod with anti shake. I wonder if there is some failure in my technique (most likely) or maybe I have a faulty camera (least likely). Maybe its just the wrong light. I am also finding the 12-60 doesn't appear to give me the results I got with the E1 and 14-54 - sadly neither are with me anymore so I can't compare. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 14:42:06 2009 Received: (qmail 9081 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 13:42:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 13:42:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE4A4300FB for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36C1D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B06134AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5685434AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50611 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LWWOZ-0004iw-TI for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:41:56 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:41:54 -0500 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] New photo from my OM-system Thread-Index: AcmKvCsyaaOQyPavEd2D5wAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] New photo from my OM-system X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 14:42:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499032ae275511234514069 Thanks Andrew, I developed it in Tmax Developer. I've never tried D76 for Tmax 3200. I've used Xtol and don't like it as much as Tmax, although Xtol has finer grain. Tmax Developer gives better tonality in my opinion. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 2/9/09 8:27 AM, "Andrew Gullen" wrote: > Very nice - that really gives a feel for the cat, and the Tmax 3200 is > perfect for it. What did you develop in: D76? > > Andrew > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:29, Chris Crawford wrote: > >> I've added a new OM photo to my website & blog tonight. I think it is a >> powerful one of my grandpa's old cat, Molly. >> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com >> >> Shot with an OM-4T on Tmax 3200 (EI 1600), using a Zuiko 50/1.4 with >> serial >> over 1,100,000 >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-747-3962 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 14:55:20 2009 Received: (qmail 8346 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 13:55:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 13:55:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A6C1C40F3A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A58CD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63CB634AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:55:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953E934AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:55:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19DtBVX025515 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:55:11 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:55:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 14:55:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499035c8227721585427447 Do a focus check with your problem lenses, most likely the problem was due to E-3 focusing error, the E-3 I had consistantly gave me front focus with 11-22 at 11mm and 50-200 at 50mm, the other focal lengths also affected but not that much. While the 14-45 was working perfectly. For the 180/2 it could be a problem of the MF system, mirror angle, focusing screen position... etc. Try to use live view and your image should be sharp. My late purchased E-520 also had front focus problem and the viewfinder is too small for MF, that's why I totally gave up on the 4/3. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian W" > This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp > option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically > depending upon which lens is attached > something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done > automatically. > > The difference in colour between the E1 and E3 doesn't bother me too > much, it can always be changed to be near as dammit, but the fact that I > can't get sharp results with my very expensive 180/2 (my wife still > reminds me about how much I paid for it!) is perturbing me - shooting > wide open and on a tripod with anti shake. I wonder if there is some > failure in my technique (most likely) or maybe I have a faulty camera > (least likely). Maybe its just the wrong light. > > I am also finding the 12-60 doesn't appear to give me the results I got > with the E1 and 14-54 - sadly neither are with me anymore so I can't > compare. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:10:08 2009 Received: (qmail 2976 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:10:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A96D430106 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7C8D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A003D34AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B7D34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so1489260rvb.6 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr812001wfh.209.1234188601829; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:10:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:10:01 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:10:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49903940213182070262475 I also wonder whether you shouldn't turn off IS if the camera is tripod-mounted? Joel W. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > Do a focus check with your problem lenses, most likely the problem was due > to E-3 focusing error, the E-3 I had consistantly gave me front focus with > 11-22 at 11mm and 50-200 at 50mm, the other focal lengths also affected but > not that much. While the 14-45 was working perfectly. > > For the 180/2 it could be a problem of the MF system, mirror angle, focusing > screen position... etc. Try to use live view and your image should be sharp. > > My late purchased E-520 also had front focus problem and the viewfinder is > too small for MF, that's why I totally gave up on the 4/3. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian W" > >> This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp >> option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically >> depending upon which lens is attached >> something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done >> automatically. >> >> The difference in colour between the E1 and E3 doesn't bother me too >> much, it can always be changed to be near as dammit, but the fact that I >> can't get sharp results with my very expensive 180/2 (my wife still >> reminds me about how much I paid for it!) is perturbing me - shooting >> wide open and on a tripod with anti shake. I wonder if there is some >> failure in my technique (most likely) or maybe I have a faulty camera >> (least likely). Maybe its just the wrong light. >> >> I am also finding the 12-60 doesn't appear to give me the results I got >> with the E1 and 14-54 - sadly neither are with me anymore so I can't >> compare. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:10:35 2009 Received: (qmail 24660 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:10:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F174300FB for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DE2D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C3E34AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C959034AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:10:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:10:21 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 14:10:22.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[256A57D0:01C98AC0] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:10:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990395b251501234514069 Thanks I will try that, I am hoping to borrow a digital 50/2 macro to compare with mine. also I wanted to make clear I was referring to discussion on defraction limits with this paragraph. "This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically depending upon which lens is attached something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done automatically." C.H.Ling wrote: > Do a focus check with your problem lenses, most likely the problem was due > to E-3 focusing error, the E-3 I had consistantly gave me front focus with > BTW now back as SwissPace to save confusion ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:20:58 2009 Received: (qmail 6088 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:20:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:20:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75B6430145 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434F8D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3234219E81A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:20:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A76F19E826 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:20:51 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19EKZ4u029998 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:20:35 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <6CFEEEC277D243399DB14EBD03328464@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main><4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main><499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:20:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:20:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49903bca136631234514069 I belive the "anti shake" was talking about time delay before shoot, this is another feature on the 4/3 for tripod shooting. Mirror will be up first and then wait for a definded time before activating the shutter. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Wilcox" >I also wonder whether you shouldn't turn off IS if the camera is > tripod-mounted? > > Joel W. > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: >> Do a focus check with your problem lenses, most likely the problem was >> due >> to E-3 focusing error, the E-3 I had consistantly gave me front focus >> with >> 11-22 at 11mm and 50-200 at 50mm, the other focal lengths also affected >> but >> not that much. While the 14-45 was working perfectly. >> >> For the 180/2 it could be a problem of the MF system, mirror angle, >> focusing >> screen position... etc. Try to use live view and your image should be >> sharp. >> >> My late purchased E-520 also had front focus problem and the viewfinder >> is >> too small for MF, that's why I totally gave up on the 4/3. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ian W" >> >>> This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp >>> option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically >>> depending upon which lens is attached >>> something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done >>> automatically. >>> >>> The difference in colour between the E1 and E3 doesn't bother me too >>> much, it can always be changed to be near as dammit, but the fact that I >>> can't get sharp results with my very expensive 180/2 (my wife still >>> reminds me about how much I paid for it!) is perturbing me - shooting >>> wide open and on a tripod with anti shake. I wonder if there is some >>> failure in my technique (most likely) or maybe I have a faulty camera >>> (least likely). Maybe its just the wrong light. >>> >>> I am also finding the 12-60 doesn't appear to give me the results I got >>> with the E1 and 14-54 - sadly neither are with me anymore so I can't >>> compare. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:26:14 2009 Received: (qmail 32320 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:26:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:26:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919E543011B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95718D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8501819E88D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:26:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E9519E87E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:26:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2062245wfg.26 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:26:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr2898967wfa.154.1234189567993; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:26:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6CFEEEC277D243399DB14EBD03328464@main> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> <6CFEEEC277D243399DB14EBD03328464@main> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:26:07 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902090626m2813d892pf013bdf8f6edefaf@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:26:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49903d06140751073733319 Of course. Sorry! Joel W. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:20 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > I belive the "anti shake" was talking about time delay before shoot, this is > another feature on the 4/3 for tripod shooting. Mirror will be up first and > then wait for a definded time before activating the shutter. > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:28:34 2009 Received: (qmail 28779 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:28:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:28:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FFF43016E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:28:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C0DD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77A534AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451F734AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:28:26 +0100 Message-ID: <49903D89.3080309@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:28:25 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> <6CFEEEC277D243399DB14EBD03328464@main> <9e908c1f0902090626m2813d892pf013bdf8f6edefaf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902090626m2813d892pf013bdf8f6edefaf@mail.gmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 14:28:26.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB783480:01C98AC2] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:28:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49903d92157454673671140 No need to say sorry - the first time I used the tripod I forgot to switch IS off and a couple of times since ;-( Joel Wilcox wrote: > Of course. Sorry! > > Joel W. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:32:56 2009 Received: (qmail 24162 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:32:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:32:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7D2430124 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACA8D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7B534AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:32:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DF334AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:32:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19EWlwo002307 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:32:47 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:32:44 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:32:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49903e98165741234514069 I think this has been included in the program mode of some compact digital cameras, I remember my Canyon S30 goes up to 1/640s and still using F2.8 or F3.5. It is a good idea even for DSLR but I have not check the program curve of 4/3. On the other hand, I believe experience DSLR users want to set the aperture themselves. On some cases DOF is more important than a little lost in sharpness and on the other cases we may want larger aperture to soften the background. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian W" > > also I wanted to make clear I was referring to discussion on defraction > limits with this paragraph. > > "This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp > option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically > depending upon which lens is attached > something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done > automatically." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:46:28 2009 Received: (qmail 11765 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:46:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CFC43010B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4175D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63A334AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1659E34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k57so1466117rnd.13 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:46:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.140.20 with SMTP id n20mr837818and.16.1234190779154; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:46:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902090502g356175aj740771c08aac7262@mail.gmail.com> References: <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> <9e908c1f0902090502g356175aj740771c08aac7262@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:19 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3ed69925bde88161 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] deleting image files in camera. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:46:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499041c4249781470116606 I think that advice dates back to the dark ages of early DSLRs with poorly implemented disk operating systems or too little cache. I do it all the time with my A1 and E-1 with never a problem. About the only things I delete, however, are the obvious outtakes--the blurs, the misexposures, etc. When shooting things like portraits, If I take a dozen shots of a particular pose, unless they blink, I keep them. It's hard to judge a photo on a 1.5 inch screen. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:54:13 2009 Received: (qmail 26189 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:54:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:54:12 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946984300FD for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23D3D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B555434AC02A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1764134AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24193 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 14:54:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 14:54:02 -0000 Message-ID: <499023D0.1010406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:38:40 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:54:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990439547791823421471 Diffraction is based on focal ratio, not simply focal length or physical size of the aperture. Diffraction in a lens is caused by light rays bending around the edges of the lens retaining cells and especially the blades of the diaphragm. The larger the focal ratio the greater relative distance the beams have to travel after passing the diaphragm blades and the greater the linear displacement from where they're supposed to land on film or sensor. The smaller the size of the pixel the greater the chance that the wayward beam will fall outside the pixel position it was intended for. The same happens with film, of course, except no one paid attention then. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> Thanks for Wayne and Chuck's confirmation, then we may only be able to >> shoot >> at F4 with the 7-14 at 7mm :-) I would prefer to use my 16mm fisheye with >> OM5D II. > > > > Sorry, at 7mm, the lens is diffraction limited at F1.4 according to the > calculations. > > ;) > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:54:45 2009 Received: (qmail 32438 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:54:43 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932F7430137 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635EBD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A3E19EA0E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D225119E9ED for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24200 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 14:54:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 14:54:04 -0000 Message-ID: <49903A6A.1090606@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:15:06 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5FFA839C-7107-4AB4-AC8A-4909556B84A4@people.net.au> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <300.90b80700d0238d49.034@comkal.net> <67F83C1C-BE25-473E-81E3-180D3D4DE42B@people.net.au> <300.9059020017288d49.038@comkal.net> <498D2AF7.1090709@picturepedia.org> <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] deleting image files in camera. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:54:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499043b5192382070262475 It has to do with the ability to recover from accidentally formatting the card or (very much less likely) development of read errors in the directory. A FAT16 or FAT32 formatted card/disk consists of a directory containing file names, a pointer to the address where that file begins and a count of the number of storage clusters used (a cluster is the smallest storage allocation unit and consists of a group of 512 byte sectors, the smallest storage unit on the disk) For FAT16 format (CF cards of 2GB or less) cluster size can range from as small as one sector (512 bytes) to as large as 64 sectors (32KB). For FAT32, clusters are always 8 sectors and 4KB. When FAT format files are written they are initially written sequentially. If you delete a file it opens a hole in the chain of storage locations. Depending on the storage allocation logic in use by your camera that hole may or may not be used when it comes time to store the next image. If it's smart code it will not reuse that space until the card is otherwise full. If it's not so smart or if you've filled the card from beginning to end, storing another image requires finding the space freed by your deletions. But it's unlikely that the size of the file about to be written is exactly the same size as the original file that had been in that space. If will either be smaller or larger. If smaller the original space will be occupied by the new file plus a tail end fragment of the old file. If larger the old space will be occupied by a portion of the new file and the remainder will be allocated to another chunk of empty space that might be anywhere. Furthermore, that space may not be contiguous but may in turn be broken into many smaller non-contiguous chunks. The directory also keeps track of these non-contiguous storage areas via use of a linked list that tells which clusters are used for that file and where they are all located. When you format a disk or CF card on your computer you can do either a full format or a "quick" format. A full format completely erases all the directory information and all of the data by writing a fixed bit pattern into all storage locations. It may also read back the erasure data pattern to check the health of each sector. A quick format (what the camera does) only erases the directory information. All of the file data still exists but the list of file names and where they start and end has been lost. If you were to accidentally format your CF card or if the card developed errors in the directory a smart utility can recover everything if all of the files have been written sequentially. It doesn't have any pointers to know start or end positions but, if it knows the format of the JPEG or raw files, it can recognize the starting position of a new file by recognizing certain file header or descriptive information at the beginning of the file that is independent of the actual image data. It then infers the size of the file by searching for the next image header. If there have been no erasures the end of one file will be marked by the beginning of the next and there's no ambiguity. The original file name will not be known but the file will be successfully recovered. If there have been erasures but that space hasn't been reused then the recovery utiliyt will recover the file that you thought was deleted. If the space has been reused that new image will likely be corrupted unless it just happens to exactly fit the old space allocation. If smaller it may pick up some piece of the image previously stored there. If larger, other pieces of the image will be stored in one or more non-contiguous locations and there is no way to know how to reconstruct them. Fortunately, this has only happened to me once. I picked up the wrong CF card, put it into the camera and realized about 1/2 second too late that I was formatting the wrong card. Because I had manually erased a number of images on that card the recovery utility only successfully completely recovered a subset of images. Fortunately the couple that I really needed were intact. Lesson learned. Never erase images in-camera unless absolutely required. Chuck Norcutt John Hudson wrote: > Someone posted a message recently opining that unwanted image files should > not be deleted in camera. > > What was the reason for suggesting that unwanted images should not be > deleted by exercising the trash-can button on the camera? > > jh > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:54:51 2009 Received: (qmail 9850 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:54:49 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13132430171 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC9AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D86F34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123CB34AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.226.203]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KES00HZCZXFCSK3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:51:15 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <499042EA.60303@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:51:22 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> In-reply-to: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:54:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499043ba276963675314703 I love the steam engines but am surprised they would build a new one (I understand China builds them on a regular basis). They are huge money pits, labor intensive, huge polluters, but fun to watch and listen to. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chris Barker wrote: > I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a > little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm > > This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the > business! > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 15:59:03 2009 Received: (qmail 20349 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 14:59:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 14:59:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DE443015B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFABD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCA434AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9645B34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2534886qyk.14 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.241.8 with SMTP id o8mr6821477qah.212.1234191535174; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <498CAE83.5090501@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: <14883a8b0902090658k70acd635ubc2658f4133a0929@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Is it my imagination?NOW Hudson splashdown. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 15:59:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499044b780837927319144 I seem to remember a newscaster saying that the last time a commercial liner made a water landing with all passengers surviving was sometime in the mid-50's. Rare indeed. Charlie On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Timpe, Jim wrote: > >Moose > >Discovering the emptiness of Truth is an important step for many. :-) > > Evidently most politicians have attained this step and moved on. > > Hey, Chris (Barker); Haven't heard your take on the Hudson splash down > of a couple weeks ago. I've heard pilots express opinions all over the > map, from "any seasoned, skilled pilot could have done that" to "nothing > short of miraculous". I guess my thought is that if it were really as > easy as the first group would have us believe, there would be far more > successful water landings on record. As I understand it, the number is > quite miniscule. > > Jim > -- > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. 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Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. > > In addition, Danaher and its subsidiaries disclaim that the content of > this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, > any > contract or agreement or any amendment thereto; provided that the > foregoing disclaimer does not invalidate the binding effect of any > digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is > included in any attachment to this email. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:00:55 2009 Received: (qmail 31290 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:00:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:00:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4961C40F35 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4370BD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D48919EA23 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:00:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EB419EA53 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:00:42 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2536274qyk.14 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:00:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.215.67.17 with SMTP id u17mr6844194qak.144.1234191641436; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:00:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <14883a8b0902090700m6c1c40b8tbb048450cf8f6eea@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Curmudgeon training X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:00:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904527273191946193717 My wife and I saw it last week and I had the exact same thought about Walt during that scene. Charlie On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Watching Gran Torino yesterday - to sharpen up my grumpy old bastard > skills (think of it as 'personal development' - we can all improve in > our chosen path). > There's a nice scene where Clint hands the kid next door three items > with the approximate words, 'This'll fix 90% of things around the > house' - WD40, ViseGrips and a roll of duct tape. > I could almost hear the shade of Walt demanding, "What about the > f##king epoxy then?!" > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:01:52 2009 Received: (qmail 20443 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:01:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:01:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0AA43014C for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5A6D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F6434AC02A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0303934AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.76]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 6788A8C19H for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:42 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:01:42 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <499042EA.60303@verizon.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London Thread-Index: AcmKxlzPHQn4gtUWTZmYC5GWMIoC8wAAMv5g From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 15:01:43.0030 (UTC) FILETIME=[51AEB960:01C98AC7] Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:01:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904560165111234514069 >John Hermanson >They are huge money pits, labor intensive, huge polluters, but fun to watch and listen to. ___________________________________ Thought you were talking about Congress until that last part... 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Even using the sharpest (50mm f2) OM = macro with this film and then scanning it with my Nikon LS-4000ED = quality of image is lower than E-1 5Mp camera. Please don=B4t tell me = things like film curvature as I divided the film in 64 cells, then = scanned every cell and finally I stitched all of them. Image was = perfectly focused (corner to corner) but effective resolution isn=B4t 4000 = dpi at all. There are lot of space between silver halide particles and = resolution is very poor. Digital sensors give much higher resolving = power with less megapixels. Do you think future cameras will have more than 20Mp??? IMHO 15Mp is = plenty enough and please take into account bayern pattern will disappear = in a near future, so effective resolution will be a true 15Mp image. No = more interpolation required for generating an image from surrounding pixels. So although diffraction limit is a problem in small sensors I am = delighted with my Zuiko Digital 50mm f2 results at f16. Quality is hair = raising. I don=B4t miss OM-SYSTEM at all regarding to image quality. I = miss other gadgets like multi-spot metering. Something I wonder is... if airy disk is a general fall-off with a = penumbra, do microleses help to prevent this fall-off penumbra light = reaching the photodetector? I also suppose a telecentric system also = reduces this effect in the corners of the image, doesn=B4t it? Regards, Dave -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:09:35 2009 Received: (qmail 3634 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:09:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:09:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659C143016A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355B0D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A52734AC02A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1D034AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2265 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 15:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 15:09:27 -0000 Message-ID: <49904725.2070609@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:09:25 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:09:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990472f169182046811720 The diffraction limits are only based on focal ratio... not focal length. The particular lens attached makes no difference. But I like your idea. At a certain focal ratio it would make more sense to decrease the ISO or increase the shutter speed if possible rather than closing down the lens. Chuck Norcutt Ian W wrote: > This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp > option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically > depending upon which lens is attached > something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done > automatically. > > The difference in colour between the E1 and E3 doesn't bother me too > much, it can always be changed to be near as dammit, but the fact that I > can't get sharp results with my very expensive 180/2 (my wife still > reminds me about how much I paid for it!) is perturbing me - shooting > wide open and on a tripod with anti shake. I wonder if there is some > failure in my technique (most likely) or maybe I have a faulty camera > (least likely). Maybe its just the wrong light. > > I am also finding the 12-60 doesn't appear to give me the results I got > with the E1 and 14-54 - sadly neither are with me anymore so I can't > compare. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:10:02 2009 Received: (qmail 9654 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:10:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:10:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4E3430196 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0F6D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FC634AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873CE34AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2543899qyk.14 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:09:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.148.17 with SMTP id v17mr6841625qad.257.1234192175876; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:09:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:09:35 -0500 Message-ID: <14883a8b0902090709j3f123b13pc4b4c7889792e646@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New photo from my OM-system X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:10:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990474a323902070262475 Excellent Chris. Superb photo. Charlie On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: > I've added a new OM photo to my website & blog tonight. I think it is a > powerful one of my grandpa's old cat, Molly. > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com > > Shot with an OM-4T on Tmax 3200 (EI 1600), using a Zuiko 50/1.4 with serial > over 1,100,000 > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:13:08 2009 Received: (qmail 32517 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:13:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:13:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029C43016A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13E3D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E39719EB10 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F7219EAEB for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com (imo-m19.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.11]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c29.4eef844f (14501) for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:12:53 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:12:52 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:13:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990480470551257536491 Here is the link to the winners of the Krappy Kamera Competition XXI. sohophoto.com/kk11_winners_gallery/index.html Thanks goes out to all who did a rain dance this weekend. It rained last night and there is more coming this week. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:16:51 2009 Received: (qmail 9912 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:16:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:16:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACEB430168 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71089D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FD034AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:16:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00CD34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:16:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.226.203]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KET00JG613R04T3@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:16:40 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <499048DE.7000006@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:16:46 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] New photo from my OM-system X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:16:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499048e3119881585427447 I like that, very sharp! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chris Crawford wrote: > I've added a new OM photo to my website & blog tonight. I think it is a > powerful one of my grandpa's old cat, Molly. > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com > > Shot with an OM-4T on Tmax 3200 (EI 1600), using a Zuiko 50/1.4 with serial > over 1,100,000 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:18:11 2009 Received: (qmail 29715 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:18:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:18:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA21D1C40F3B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7234AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B7134AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F171134AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:18:04 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7344 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 15:18:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 15:18:04 -0000 Message-ID: <49904929.3090103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:18:01 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:18:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990493319341702588592 The E3 manual says to turn the IS off when on a tripod. IIRC, older Canyon lenses require turning the IS off when on a tripod but later lenses are able to detect tripod mounting and quiet themselves. They can also be switched such that only the vertical component is active thus allowing panning horizontally without interference from the IS. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > I also wonder whether you shouldn't turn off IS if the camera is > tripod-mounted? > > Joel W. > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: >> Do a focus check with your problem lenses, most likely the problem was due >> to E-3 focusing error, the E-3 I had consistantly gave me front focus with >> 11-22 at 11mm and 50-200 at 50mm, the other focal lengths also affected but >> not that much. While the 14-45 was working perfectly. >> >> For the 180/2 it could be a problem of the MF system, mirror angle, focusing >> screen position... etc. Try to use live view and your image should be sharp. >> >> My late purchased E-520 also had front focus problem and the viewfinder is >> too small for MF, that's why I totally gave up on the 4/3. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ian W" >> >>> This discussion makes me wonder why the manufactures don't have a sharp >>> option in auto mode where it limits the aperture size automatically >>> depending upon which lens is attached >>> something like setting a maximum iso limit for auto iso mode, but done >>> automatically. >>> >>> The difference in colour between the E1 and E3 doesn't bother me too >>> much, it can always be changed to be near as dammit, but the fact that I >>> can't get sharp results with my very expensive 180/2 (my wife still >>> reminds me about how much I paid for it!) is perturbing me - shooting >>> wide open and on a tripod with anti shake. I wonder if there is some >>> failure in my technique (most likely) or maybe I have a faulty camera >>> (least likely). Maybe its just the wrong light. >>> >>> I am also finding the 12-60 doesn't appear to give me the results I got >>> with the E1 and 14-54 - sadly neither are with me anymore so I can't >>> compare. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:22:54 2009 Received: (qmail 9645 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:22:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590BB1C40546 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1E3D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFED19EB91 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:22:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198BF19EB60 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:22:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so711109anc.35 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:22:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.9.19 with SMTP id 19mr323481ani.8.1234192965263; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:22:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:22:45 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dd0218dbdf84dc99 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Diffraction in real life - Today's PAW on ZX X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:22:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904a4e219381470116606 Shameless Plug Alert: Last night I was shooting a favorite Iowa landscape during the moonrise. I was being very careful to do "best practices" in photographing this scene. http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=394&Itemid=1 The first picture is the "preferred shot", but the other two were included for entertainment value. Beware of the mystery photographer riding inside the camera bag. The aperture was F9 and the scene was manually focused to achieve full DoF for the entire scene. Tripods, 2-second Anti-Shake, and heavy-lifting in Raw Therapee. This article was updated a few minutes ago with the addition of the text and the other two photographs. -- Ken Norton ken@zone-10.com http://www.zone-10.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:26:16 2009 Received: (qmail 22799 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:26:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F86A430146 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A240AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9569A34AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D747034AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11927 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 15:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 15:26:07 -0000 Message-ID: <49904B0C.5010602@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:26:04 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> <9e908c1f0902090502g356175aj740771c08aac7262@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] deleting image files in camera. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:26:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904b183214673671140 Absolutely nothing to do with cache but everything to do with accidentally formatting the wrong CF card. If you do that and have deleted images prior to the format you may well have a recovery problem. See my more complete response in an earlier post. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > I think that advice dates back to the dark ages of early DSLRs with poorly > implemented disk operating systems or too little cache. I do it all the > time with my A1 and E-1 with never a problem. > > About the only things I delete, however, are the obvious outtakes--the > blurs, the misexposures, etc. When shooting things like portraits, If I > take a dozen shots of a particular pose, unless they blink, I keep them. > It's hard to judge a photo on a 1.5 inch screen. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:34:20 2009 Received: (qmail 1752 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:34:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:34:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74389430107 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761F3D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6439519EC38 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:34:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC9819EC20 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:34:11 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.157]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so380815ywk.80 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:34:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.255.9 with SMTP id c9mr2897546ani.135.1234193650796; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:34:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:34:10 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c3f1405507fdfa7a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:34:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904cfc226757927319144 Awesome Job, Bill!!!! Man-o-live, I have to get myself a piece-o-krap camera. My stuff takes too good of pictures. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:41:32 2009 Received: (qmail 9705 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:41:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:41:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624A643015B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AF4D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CC034AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F9834AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20299 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2009 15:41:25 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: JE5o7tEVM1kJCYhVAdBtPr22qJ3PVQtBsN17wIVn.hQYprfN7tY7Dn1S8Z9tsmyofJhWDgPdwW9KjmiFhSz3fksELO32HCTZMxNdtyUaMmAoBpKMw822hkirMNFIFavbSlYtrVwr1uWo.GCH8ISin_UFsR3nLJjOp0edANagrG27kHr.skYsFNSQSZtZ_lGYA2UBXohSIzujtMcs1aMAgmUX.gaZlQtjHyk3vvoIEGK_OJ4hKoLvoA-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:41:24 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <162558.19982.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:41:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904eac186221234514069 Congrats!! --- On Mon, 2/9/09, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > From: NSURIT@aol.com > Subject: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:12 AM > Here is the link to the winners of the Krappy Kamera > Competition XXI. > > sohophoto.com/kk11_winners_gallery/index.html > > Thanks goes out to all who did a rain dance this weekend. > It rained last > night and there is more coming this week. > > Bill Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:42:20 2009 Received: (qmail 14522 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:42:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:42:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC1B43016F for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:42:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E22D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B544234AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:42:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5121E34AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:41 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KET00D1029D3ZA0@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:41:37 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-224-166-224.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.166.224]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:41:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:41:31 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <8A3E60AF536E4E36AE0B7DE0283BCB75@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgXAJfdj0kY4Kbg/2dsb2JhbACBaIhUuEgJjGEHglyBNwY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,406,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="411598386" References: Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:42:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49904edc262291023412894 Lots of pork in the UK as well :-)) jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London > >John Hermanson >>They are huge money pits, labor intensive, huge polluters, but fun to > watch and listen to. ___________________________________ > > Thought you were talking about Congress until that last part... > > Jim > -- > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or > re-transmit this email. 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Here are two shots I made in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in previous discussion before): OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to have some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in the = images.... and no, I won't wait for Olympus. : http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- = From: "David Irisarri" Hi all, I think we are taking fourthirds system to the limit ;) Some days ago I was scanning some Ektachrome E100 slides with Kodak T-grain, supposed to be a very fine grain reversal film. Even using the sharpest (50mm f2) OM macro with this film and then scanning it with my Nikon LS-4000ED quality of image is lower than E-1 5Mp camera. Please don=B4t tell me things like film curvature as I divided the film in 64 cells, then scanned every cell and finally I stitched all of them. Image was perfectly focused (corner to corner) but effective resolution isn=B4t 4000 dpi at all. There are lot of space between silver halide particles and resolution is very poor. Digital sensors give much higher resolving power with less megapixels. Do you think future cameras will have more than 20Mp??? IMHO 15Mp is plenty enough and please take into account bayern pattern will disappear in a near future, so effective resolution will be a true 15Mp image. No more interpolation required for generating an image from surrounding pixels. So although diffraction limit is a problem in small sensors I am delighted with my Zuiko Digital 50mm f2 results at f16. Quality is hair raising. I don=B4t miss OM-SYSTEM at all regarding to image quality. I miss other gadgets like multi-spot metering. Something I wonder is... if airy disk is a general fall-off with a penumbra, do microleses help to prevent this fall-off penumbra light reaching the photodetector? I also suppose a telecentric system also reduces this effect in the corners of the image, doesn=B4t it? Regards, Dave -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:48:25 2009 Received: (qmail 1442 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:48:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A6F430101 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA35D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED0919ED0D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:47:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D0C19ED0C for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:47:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26157 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 15:47:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 15:47:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49905029.3050308@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:47:53 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <162558.19982.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <162558.19982.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:48:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990504983591993019900 Wow. Nice job. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > Congrats!! > > > > > --- On Mon, 2/9/09, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > >> From: NSURIT@aol.com >> Subject: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! >> To: olympus@thomasclausen.net >> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:12 AM >> Here is the link to the winners of the Krappy Kamera >> Competition XXI. >> >> sohophoto.com/kk11_winners_gallery/index.html >> >> Thanks goes out to all who did a rain dance this weekend. >> It rained last >> night and there is more coming this week. >> >> Bill Barber >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: >> http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: >> http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:50:53 2009 Received: (qmail 21588 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:50:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:50:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2C243012A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E237ED0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C0C19ECB0 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:50:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5B919ED14 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:50:38 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so717856anc.35 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:50:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.9.19 with SMTP id 19mr350401ani.8.1234194638107; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:50:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:50:37 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9cbe91b8d9b19afb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:50:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499050dd313961591313764 > > I think we are taking fourthirds system to the limit ;) Some days ago I > was scanning some Ektachrome E100 slides with Kodak T-grain, supposed to > be a very fine grain reversal film. Even using the sharpest (50mm f2) OM > macro with this film and then scanning it with my Nikon LS-4000ED > quality of image is lower than E-1 5Mp camera. Please don=B4t tell me > things like film curvature as I divided the film in 64 cells, then > scanned every cell and finally I stitched all of them. Image was > perfectly focused (corner to corner) but effective resolution isn=B4t 4000 > dpi at all. There are lot of space between silver halide particles and > resolution is very poor. Digital sensors give much higher resolving > power with less megapixels. > I believe what you have run into is the halation characteristics of the film. Some films are much more prone to this issue than others. For example, Fujichrome Provia is horrid when it comes to halation and firmly stamps a resolution limit on the imaging process. I know exactly what you are saying, though, and it is disconcerting to think that FIVE lowly megapixels from the E-1 of all cameras meets and exceeds what you "normally" get from 35mm film in raw resolution. But that isn't the full story. I've been converting over from slide films to print films (completely transitioned now), and I find that the latest Fuji Pro 160S emulsion to maintain about the best detail of all the fine-grain print films. The grain of the new Portra films is finer and 400NC is as good as the best ISO 100 films of just a couple years ago and all the Portra films as well as 160S are right at the limit of resolving ability. I did controlled testing of various films and digital cameras. Fuji Pro 160S and Kodak Portra 160NC easily matched the 10+ MP cameras for resolution and detail, but blew them away in the subtleties right at the limits of what the sensors were able to capture. Even with ALL noise-reduction turned off (that can be turned off), it is obvious that in the random nature of natural subjects, there was a marked advantage to film. However, for man-made objects, digital rules the day with greater edge-detail which leads the eye/brain to "see" greater detail which may or may not actually be there. AG -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:55:41 2009 Received: (qmail 7439 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:55:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:55:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F75C43010B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B5FD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0EB34AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC05034AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19FtMPS018134 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:55:22 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:55:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:55:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499051fd184391993019900 I can't agree with you, E-1's resolution is far from 35mm film can provide. Here are two shots I took in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in previous discussion ). OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to have some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. The film shot are clearly MUCH better. I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in the images.... may be I will try to make a Velvia 50 comparison again: OM-5D II, 35-70/3.6 at F5.6 http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- = From: "David Irisarri" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 Hi all, I think we are taking fourthirds system to the limit ;) Some days ago I was scanning some Ektachrome E100 slides with Kodak T-grain, supposed to be a very fine grain reversal film. Even using the sharpest (50mm f2) OM macro with this film and then scanning it with my Nikon LS-4000ED quality of image is lower than E-1 5Mp camera. Please don=B4t tell me things like film curvature as I divided the film in 64 cells, then scanned every cell and finally I stitched all of them. Image was perfectly focused (corner to corner) but effective resolution isn=B4t 4000 dpi at all. There are lot of space between silver halide particles and resolution is very poor. Digital sensors give much higher resolving power with less megapixels. Do you think future cameras will have more than 20Mp??? IMHO 15Mp is plenty enough and please take into account bayern pattern will disappear in a near future, so effective resolution will be a true 15Mp image. No more interpolation required for generating an image from surrounding pixels. So although diffraction limit is a problem in small sensors I am delighted with my Zuiko Digital 50mm f2 results at f16. Quality is hair raising. I don=B4t miss OM-SYSTEM at all regarding to image quality. I miss other gadgets like multi-spot metering. Something I wonder is... if airy disk is a general fall-off with a penumbra, do microleses help to prevent this fall-off penumbra light reaching the photodetector? I also suppose a telecentric system also reduces this effect in the corners of the image, doesn=B4t it? Regards, Dave -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:56:17 2009 Received: (qmail 20306 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:56:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:56:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EACF430152 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3605D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FCE34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BB834AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31941 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 15:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 15:56:04 -0000 Message-ID: <49905211.6060104@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:56:01 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:56:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905221290505368819438 If that 50/2 macro was being used as a macro typically is (extension and = small aperture) then diffraction is probably rearing its ugly head and = limiting resolution on the film. f/22 will limit 35mm film or sensor = resolution to less than the E-1's 5MP and extension will make the = effective focal ratio smaller than indicated on the aperture ring. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > I can't agree with you, E-1's resolution is far from 35mm film can provid= e. > Here are two shots I made in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in > previous discussion before): > = > OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 > = > http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) > = > E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s > = > http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) > = > Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to have > some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. > = > I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in th= e = > images.... and no, I won't wait for Olympus. : > = > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) > = > = > C.H.Ling > = > = > = > = > ----- Original Message ----- = > From: "David Irisarri" > = > Hi all, > = > I think we are taking fourthirds system to the limit ;) Some days ago I > was scanning some Ektachrome E100 slides with Kodak T-grain, supposed to > be a very fine grain reversal film. Even using the sharpest (50mm f2) OM > macro with this film and then scanning it with my Nikon LS-4000ED > quality of image is lower than E-1 5Mp camera. Please don=B4t tell me > things like film curvature as I divided the film in 64 cells, then > scanned every cell and finally I stitched all of them. Image was > perfectly focused (corner to corner) but effective resolution isn=B4t 4000 > dpi at all. There are lot of space between silver halide particles and > resolution is very poor. Digital sensors give much higher resolving > power with less megapixels. > = > Do you think future cameras will have more than 20Mp??? IMHO 15Mp is > plenty enough and please take into account bayern pattern will disappear > in a near future, so effective resolution will be a true 15Mp image. No > more interpolation required for generating an image from surrounding pixe= ls. > = > So although diffraction limit is a problem in small sensors I am > delighted with my Zuiko Digital 50mm f2 results at f16. Quality is hair > raising. I don=B4t miss OM-SYSTEM at all regarding to image quality. I > miss other gadgets like multi-spot metering. > = > Something I wonder is... if airy disk is a general fall-off with a > penumbra, do microleses help to prevent this fall-off penumbra light > reaching the photodetector? I also suppose a telecentric system also > reduces this effect in the corners of the image, doesn=B4t it? > = > Regards, > = > Dave -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 16:57:34 2009 Received: (qmail 16834 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 15:57:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 15:57:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF93043018B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E621D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023D334AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:57:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F05534AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:57:28 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2583824qyk.14 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:57:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.43.11 with SMTP id q11mr6922138qaq.227.1234195047540; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 07:57:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:57:27 -0500 Message-ID: <14883a8b0902090757o1baa096fq142d7b6c1178a980@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 16:57:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990526e133941470116606 Well done Bill. Charlie On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, wrote: > Here is the link to the winners of the Krappy Kamera Competition XXI. > > sohophoto.com/kk11_winners_gallery/index.html > > Thanks goes out to all who did a rain dance this weekend. It rained last > night and there is more coming this week. > > Bill Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:06:38 2009 Received: (qmail 28603 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:06:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:06:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C686430170 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFE1D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786FF19EDC7 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:06:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A2019EDB8 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:06:31 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m22.mail.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d1d.3d717a85 (14501) for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:06:23 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:06:23 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:06:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990548e210471946193717 Ken, if you will carefully wrap the OM 3T and ship it to me, I'll send you a load of Krap. Hmm, maybe I just did that . . . These images may not appeal to some. Most I find rather interesting. I had fun creating mine and I say that was probably true for the others. Isn't that what it is all about? <{B^) Bill Barber In a message dated 2/9/2009 9:34:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Man-o-live, I have to get myself a piece-o-krap camera. My stuff takes too good of pictures. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:09:38 2009 Received: (qmail 30890 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:09:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A1B430196 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E1FD0404B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC4A34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:09:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D3F34AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:09:26 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so389896ywk.80 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:09:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.123.11 with SMTP id v11mr2926303anc.71.1234195764617; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:09:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:09:24 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 011b468c31127b58 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:09:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905542314651529615919 The Iowa Interstate Railroad imported two steam locomotives from China and had them customized for legal use here in the States. http://www.iaisrr.com/sites/iaisrr.com/files/Steam_0.pdf I photographed them coming through Grinnell and they really are an amazing thing to watch. This railroad had bought these for experimentation to see if they could be used in actual fleet use. The short answer is yes, but the manual labor costs ate up the savings in fuel. As a general rule, it takes 20 man-hours of operation and maintenance for every hour of rail time. This past fall, they attempted to set the world-record for amount of freight pulled by steam on a scheduled run. Their site is a bit slack when it comes to news, but I think they did set the record. The Iowa Interstate tracks run right past my office as well as near my home. Every once in a while you'll see the steam engines go past, but mostly it's the new locomotives. They had a horribly ancient fleet of engines, but over the past year or two have upgraded their fleet to the latest/greatest engines. These things are like twice as efficient and twice as powerful as the old engines they replaced. So, they've been able to reduce their engine count by up to 75% on their runs. A good operation. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:17:12 2009 Received: (qmail 24717 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:17:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:17:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A501C4050A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0791ED0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF3C34AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:17:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C934AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:17:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:17:03 +0100 Message-ID: <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:17:02 +0100 From: Ian W User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 16:17:03.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[D810D6F0:01C98AD1] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:17:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990570838829117217770 Going back to my original posting I think part of my problem is the raw convertor in aperture, For a couple of days I shot raw and jpg (normally I only shoot raw) and imported both into aperture, there is a noticeable difference in colour and sharpness (detail) between the two which no amount of raw fine tuning seems to fix. For the first time ever I opened the same raw image in master and compared it to the ones in aperture. It looks identical to the jpg version. This is a real blow as I like aperture because of its one program solution and ability, if anyone else is using aperture could they compare a raw and jpg file (you have to import the jg to a separate folder and then I created a smart album to see them side by side) I also opened it in camera raw 5 that came with photoshop cs4 and it also looks different (darker) though better than the aperture as it retains the detail) also does anyone use lightroom and if so could they do a comparison for me as well - (preferably on a mac) Note I am comparing them all on the same screen so that I don't have any colorsync issue in the equation. Thanks in advance Ian W -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:23:10 2009 Received: (qmail 20940 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:23:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:23:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E53430124 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694D7D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6C019EE9D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B11519EEA5 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.jazztel.es (smtp01.jazztel.es [62.14.3.170]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.165.157] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp01.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LWYuM-0005C0-Nk for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:22:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:22:53 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> In-Reply-To: <2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:23:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990586e3102046811720 Dear C.H. Ling, This is exactly what I mean. Nice example, even concentrating on the = center the image is so blurred and it lacks of so much deail that you=B4ll = need a PS unsharp mask of 200 and radius of 2.0 to sharpen the image. = This is the main problem of 35 film images. The second one blows away = the first one. There is no point seeing a higher number of pixels with more blurred detail. If bayer pattern in the second image could be removed, 5Mp would be = plenty enough to blow away 35mm images in clarity and definition. Now try to select something inside the 35mm image with the PS magic hand = tool, due to the lack of contrast detail, etc... it=B4s almost impossible. = Digital SLR images have contrast, detail and it=B4s much easier to work = with them. Believe me that it was a nightmare to retouch 35mm images = some years ago. Regards, Dave .H.Ling escribi=F3: > I can't agree with you, E-1's resolution is far from 35mm film can provid= e. > Here are two shots I took in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in > previous discussion ). > > OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 > > http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) > > E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s > > http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) > > Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to have > some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. > The film shot are clearly MUCH better. > > I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in the > images.... may be I will try to make a Velvia 50 comparison again: > > OM-5D II, 35-70/3.6 at F5.6 > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) > > C.H.Ling > > > ----- Original Message ----- = > From: "David Irisarri" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:08 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 > > > Hi all, > > I think we are taking fourthirds system to the limit ;) Some days ago I > was scanning some Ektachrome E100 slides with Kodak T-grain, supposed to > be a very fine grain reversal film. Even using the sharpest (50mm f2) OM > macro with this film and then scanning it with my Nikon LS-4000ED > quality of image is lower than E-1 5Mp camera. Please don=B4t tell me > things like film curvature as I divided the film in 64 cells, then > scanned every cell and finally I stitched all of them. Image was > perfectly focused (corner to corner) but effective resolution isn=B4t 4000 > dpi at all. There are lot of space between silver halide particles and > resolution is very poor. Digital sensors give much higher resolving > power with less megapixels. > > Do you think future cameras will have more than 20Mp??? IMHO 15Mp is > plenty enough and please take into account bayern pattern will disappear > in a near future, so effective resolution will be a true 15Mp image. No > more interpolation required for generating an image from surrounding pixe= ls. > > So although diffraction limit is a problem in small sensors I am > delighted with my Zuiko Digital 50mm f2 results at f16. Quality is hair > raising. I don=B4t miss OM-SYSTEM at all regarding to image quality. I > miss other gadgets like multi-spot metering. > > Something I wonder is... if airy disk is a general fall-off with a > penumbra, do microleses help to prevent this fall-off penumbra light > reaching the photodetector? I also suppose a telecentric system also > reduces this effect in the corners of the image, doesn=B4t it? > > Regards, > > Dave > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:27:22 2009 Received: (qmail 8819 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:27:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:27:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27127430173 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3365BD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9CC34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7502C34AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.188]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k57so1520265rnd.13 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:27:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.164.20 with SMTP id m20mr2950791ane.121.1234196835708; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:27:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:27:15 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: df4dd754cb0f4a51 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:27:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990596a80821470116606 > > Ken, if you will carefully wrap the OM 3T and ship it to me, I'll send you > a > load of Krap. Hmm, maybe I just did that . . . > Uh.... Not. Somehow I managed to get through Christmas and my Birthday without a Zero-Image showing up from my wife. Maybe I can negotiate for a pittance from the bonus check to buy one. I'm thinking of the 6x6 deluxe. That seems to be about the most ideal for me since my primary enlarger is 6x6. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:38:39 2009 Received: (qmail 17776 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:38:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:38:38 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC94434002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5137D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF98734AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:38:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA65334AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:38:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19GcMEg026135 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:38:22 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es><2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> <4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:38:16 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:38:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905c0f46391234514069 Sorry, I think I need a new monitor, I don't see what you mean, the film = image is very fine and details to my eyes at 100% (actual pixel) veiw. Ther= e = is simply not enough pixels on the 5MP image, even a true 5MP (RGB) image = will not resolve the details as seen on the film image. If you don't see what I mean, just look at the poster to read the small = characters. BTW, I don't see any problem to work with film images. After scanning over = 10K images, I found I started to love negatives more. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- = From: "David Irisarri" Dear C.H. Ling, This is exactly what I mean. Nice example, even concentrating on the center the image is so blurred and it lacks of so much deail that you=B4ll need a PS unsharp mask of 200 and radius of 2.0 to sharpen the image. This is the main problem of 35 film images. The second one blows away the first one. There is no point seeing a higher number of pixels with more blurred detail. If bayer pattern in the second image could be removed, 5Mp would be plenty enough to blow away 35mm images in clarity and definition. Now try to select something inside the 35mm image with the PS magic hand tool, due to the lack of contrast detail, etc... it=B4s almost impossible. Digital SLR images have contrast, detail and it=B4s much easier to work with them. Believe me that it was a nightmare to retouch 35mm images some years ago. Regards, Dave .H.Ling escribi=F3: > I can't agree with you, E-1's resolution is far from 35mm film can = > provide. > Here are two shots I took in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in > previous discussion ). > > OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 > > http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) > > E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s > > http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) > > Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to have > some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. > The film shot are clearly MUCH better. > > I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in the > images.... may be I will try to make a Velvia 50 comparison again: > > OM-5D II, 35-70/3.6 at F5.6 > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) > > C.H.Ling > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:42:18 2009 Received: (qmail 1628 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:42:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:42:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4D843019D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC30D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCF534AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:42:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0059934AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:42:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.157]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so399262ywk.80 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:42:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.197.3 with SMTP id u3mr2921204anf.64.1234197730154; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:42:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0902090700m6c1c40b8tbb048450cf8f6eea@mail.gmail.com> References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> <14883a8b0902090700m6c1c40b8tbb048450cf8f6eea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:42:10 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cc2ad98fef7b0786 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Curmudgeon training X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:42:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905cea136817350615338 Are we sure this isn't a documentary about Walt? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:46:11 2009 Received: (qmail 5484 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:46:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:46:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855E4430161 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3589DD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2512D19EFC7 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6919EFBC for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c6f.3302f4f3 (14501) for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:45:54 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:45:53 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:46:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905dd3180174673671140 Mine is the Zero 2000 which gives you a choice of formats. Don't know that there is much difference in price. Were I doing it again, I'd get the cable release feature. 8banners was in business producing some less expensive pinholes, however they seem to have disappeared. Check ebay. Oh, I think I have a clue as to why you don't yet have the Zero, assuming you were waiting for your lovely wife to procure it for you. <{B^) Bill Barber In a message dated 2/9/2009 10:27:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Somehow I managed to get through Christmas and my Birthday without a Zero-Image showing up from my wife. Maybe I can negotiate for a pittance from the bonus check to buy one. I'm thinking of the 6x6 deluxe. That seems to be about the most ideal for me since my primary enlarger is 6x6. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:46:53 2009 Received: (qmail 25387 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:46:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AB8430173 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26B2D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A186634AC02B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95D934AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so733394anc.35 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:46:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.153.6 with SMTP id a6mr1503427ane.76.1234198004072; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:46:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> <4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es> <91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:46:43 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cf9c8cd437c6134d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:46:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905dfd30871257536491 > > BTW, I don't see any problem to work with film images. After scanning over > 10K images, I found I started to love negatives more. > I'm somewhere in the 1500-2000 range and have barely scratched the surface of what the digitization process is capable of. This is one of those things where it requires constant learning and experimentation to keep pushing the limits of the technology even farther than the last scan. I have yet to achieve the "perfect scan". It's illusive and requires constant skill-level improvement. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 17:48:03 2009 Received: (qmail 20454 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 16:48:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 16:48:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F172B430129 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:48:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A93D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9388534AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:47:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A081134AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:47:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.jazztel.es (smtp01.jazztel.es [62.14.3.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.165.157] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp01.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LWZIV-0002JE-3c for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:47:51 +0100 Message-ID: <49905E36.4060603@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:47:50 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 17:48:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49905e43110641744846740 Dear Ian, Good demosaicing algorithms are the key for getting fine detail images. You can have a look to this: = http://www.13thmonkey.org/~boris/rawtobw/colourtest.html Or search by : Variable number gradients Adaptive Homogeneity Directed Bilinear Interpolation Laplacian, etc... I tried all Raw Software packages and the best one is Raw Developer. It = uses David Coffin=B4s DCRAW software with nice sharpening algorithms = giving you super sharp pictures. If you want I can process this image = for you and then you can check results. Color can=B4t be the same as = Olympus one. Brian Griffith creates matrix icc profiles for this = software and this type of icc profiles have some advantages but they are = not really good in color accuracy. Dave Ian W escribi=F3: > Going back to my original posting I think part of my problem is the raw = > convertor in aperture, For a couple of days I shot raw and jpg (normally = > I only shoot raw) and imported both into aperture, there is a noticeable = > difference in colour and sharpness (detail) between the two which no = > amount of raw fine tuning seems to fix. For the first time ever I opened = > the same raw image in master and compared it to the ones in aperture. It = > looks identical to the jpg version. > > This is a real blow as I like aperture because of its one program = > solution and ability, if anyone else is using aperture could they = > compare a raw and jpg file (you have to import the jg to a separate = > folder and then I created a smart album to see them side by side) > > I also opened it in camera raw 5 that came with photoshop cs4 and it = > also looks different (darker) though better than the aperture as it = > retains the detail) also does anyone use lightroom and if so could they = > do a comparison for me as well - (preferably on a mac) > > Note I am comparing them all on the same screen so that I don't have any = > colorsync issue in the equation. > > Thanks in advance Ian W > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:06:23 2009 Received: (qmail 16145 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:06:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:06:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366921C4050D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0466D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5A434AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:06:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB534AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:06:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n19H6DPN000629 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:06:13 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main><499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org><4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main><499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es><2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main><4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es><91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:06:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:06:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990628f43091023412894 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" > > >> BTW, I don't see any problem to work with film images. After scanning >> over >> 10K images, I found I started to love negatives more. >> > > I'm somewhere in the 1500-2000 range and have barely scratched the surface > of what the digitization process is capable of. This is one of those > things > where it requires constant learning and experimentation to keep pushing > the > limits of the technology even farther than the last scan. > > I have yet to achieve the "perfect scan". It's illusive and requires > constant skill-level improvement. I see this the biggest problem, I had my film scanning starting from the LS-10 8 bit N*kon scanner in 93 to the LS2000 in 98, some years ago I started to rescan the old films due to 4000ED is much better. Fortunately due to the job loading I didn't made too much scan until I retired early last year. In this one year I found I leart many new techniques (not really new, just I didn't understand them) through the scanning job I got from local hospital authority, they have some old and poor processed negatives that force me to try different methods to retouch them. The scans I have done for my own film in the pass seems wasted, I think I have to rescan them as I can do better now. C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:13:52 2009 Received: (qmail 646 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:13:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:13:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F61430201 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5E5D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EE719F0A9 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:13:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1C519F0A8 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:13:44 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2143707wfg.26 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:13:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.218.4 with SMTP id q4mr2995070wfg.225.1234199623737; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:13:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:13:43 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902090913y5dedc236q1f6103e00a678b3e@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:13:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990645042894673671140 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Ian W wrote: > Going back to my original posting I think part of my problem is the raw > convertor in aperture, For a couple of days I shot raw and jpg (normally > I only shoot raw) and imported both into aperture, there is a noticeable > difference in colour and sharpness (detail) between the two which no > amount of raw fine tuning seems to fix. For the first time ever I opened > the same raw image in master and compared it to the ones in aperture. It > looks identical to the jpg version. > > This is a real blow as I like aperture because of its one program > solution and ability, if anyone else is using aperture could they > compare a raw and jpg file (you have to import the jg to a separate > folder and then I created a smart album to see them side by side) > > I also opened it in camera raw 5 that came with photoshop cs4 and it > also looks different (darker) though better than the aperture as it > retains the detail) also does anyone use lightroom and if so could they > do a comparison for me as well - (preferably on a mac) No Mac here, but you are sort of dealing in issues I was just trading notes with Chris Barker about within this thread subject heading. What are your sharpness settings for jpg? Is Master using jpg picture settings (including sharpness) for this initial presentation of what you see in RAW? Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:15:17 2009 Received: (qmail 28116 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:15:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:15:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CC743012A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32179D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142B119F0B1 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C3019F0AF for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:15:02 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (div2000@mirko2.jazztel.es whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.jazztel.es (smtp01.jazztel.es [62.14.3.170]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [87.222.165.157] (helo=mac-pro-de-david-irisarri.local) by smtp01.jazztel.es with esmtpa (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LWZim-0000M8-Jz for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <49906494.9020509@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:15:00 +0100 From: David Irisarri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es><2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> <4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es> <91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> In-Reply-To: <91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> X-Virus-Checked: Passed : Kaspersky at jazztel.es X-AntiSpam-Checked: Passed : Threshold - 0.0 : SA jazztel.es Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:15:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499064a5213831993019900 Dear C.H.Ling, I found this article very interesting. I wanted to see if this perception I had about contrast of digital = images was true or false. http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/scandetail.html#digi2camres2 I still think a 5Mp camera without bayern pattern can beat 35mm film. = The main problem is color interpolation. An Olympus E-4 with 10Mp with no color interpolation will be plenty = enough for our purposes. David Irisarri C.H.Ling escribi=F3: > Sorry, I think I need a new monitor, I don't see what you mean, the film = > image is very fine and details to my eyes at 100% (actual pixel) veiw. Th= ere = > is simply not enough pixels on the 5MP image, even a true 5MP (RGB) image = > will not resolve the details as seen on the film image. > > If you don't see what I mean, just look at the poster to read the small = > characters. > > BTW, I don't see any problem to work with film images. After scanning ove= r = > 10K images, I found I started to love negatives more. > > C.H.Ling > > > ----- Original Message ----- = > From: "David Irisarri" > > Dear C.H. Ling, > > This is exactly what I mean. Nice example, even concentrating on the > center the image is so blurred and it lacks of so much deail that you=B4ll > need a PS unsharp mask of 200 and radius of 2.0 to sharpen the image. > This is the main problem of 35 film images. The second one blows away > the first one. > > There is no point seeing a higher number of pixels with more blurred deta= il. > > If bayer pattern in the second image could be removed, 5Mp would be > plenty enough to blow away 35mm images in clarity and definition. > > Now try to select something inside the 35mm image with the PS magic hand > tool, due to the lack of contrast detail, etc... it=B4s almost impossible. > Digital SLR images have contrast, detail and it=B4s much easier to work > with them. Believe me that it was a nightmare to retouch 35mm images > some years ago. > > Regards, > > Dave > > > .H.Ling escribi=F3: > = >> I can't agree with you, E-1's resolution is far from 35mm film can = >> provide. >> Here are two shots I took in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in >> previous discussion ). >> >> OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) >> >> E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) >> >> Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to ha= ve >> some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. >> The film shot are clearly MUCH better. >> >> I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in t= he >> images.... may be I will try to make a Velvia 50 comparison again: >> >> OM-5D II, 35-70/3.6 at F5.6 >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> = > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:17:21 2009 Received: (qmail 20031 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:17:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:17:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4A24301AF for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:17:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEF3D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B5E34AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:17:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EB934AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:17:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 36so35205yxh.80 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:17:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.58.19 with SMTP id g19mr1122657ana.82.1234199834248; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:17:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:17:14 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a723e6cd63dd2b94 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:17:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49906521111791823421471 > > Mine is the Zero 2000 which gives you a choice of formats. Don't know > that > there is much difference in price. Were I doing it again, I'd get the > cable > release feature. 8banners was in business producing some less expensive > pinholes, however they seem to have disappeared. Check ebay. Oh, I think > I have > a clue as to why you don't yet have the Zero, assuming you were waiting > for > your lovely wife to procure it for you. > Thanks. The Zero 2000 (Deluxe) is probably the most "practical" for me. And, yes, you are right about the domestic resistance to such a purchase. However, a conversation yesterday may have started the thawing process a bit. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:20:29 2009 Received: (qmail 20602 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:20:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:20:29 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476C3430196 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FABD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAEA34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:20:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD12634AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:20:22 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA0AC972C for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:42:11 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:20:20 +0000 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:20:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499065dd222541702588592 Well done, Bill. There are certainly some interesting images there. And, although I like yours, the most interesting for me is the sand dune. But that's probably because I am sucker for Dali-esque compositions. Chris On 9 Feb 2009, at 15:12, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Here is the link to the winners of the Krappy Kamera Competition XXI. > > sohophoto.com/kk11_winners_gallery/index.html > > Thanks goes out to all who did a rain dance this weekend. It > rained last > night and there is more coming this week. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:30:54 2009 Received: (qmail 4022 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:30:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:30:53 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2520A430154 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D998FD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB52934AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:30:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309E834AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m12.mail.aol.com (imo-m12.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.100]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.ceb.508ce937 (14501) for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:30:24 -0500 (EST) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:30:24 EST To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Now, that is a bunch of Krap! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:30:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990684e171981702588592 In a message dated 2/9/2009 11:20:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, ftog@threeshoes.net writes: Well done, Bill. There are certainly some interesting images there. And, although I like yours, the most interesting for me is the sand dune. But that's probably because I am sucker for Dali-esque compositions. Chris Yes, I like that one also. I really have done very little with color film and my pinhole cameras. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:33:02 2009 Received: (qmail 13607 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:33:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A97430149 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AD4D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5A534AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E585034AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:32:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.36]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KET002FP7CWHQR0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:31:44 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-224-166-224.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.166.224]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:31:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:31:40 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgXAF/3j0kY4Kbg/2dsb2JhbACBaIhUxg4HhBMG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,406,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="278705380" References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:33:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499068cd237551823421471 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" <> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London > The Iowa Interstate Railroad imported two steam locomotives from China and > had them customized for legal use here in the States. > http://www.iaisrr.com/sites/iaisrr.com/files/Steam_0.pdf Made in China ??????????????????????????????? You must be kidding ! jh -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 18:56:43 2009 Received: (qmail 15706 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 17:56:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 17:56:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424774301C0 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26F5D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EED334AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED9B34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-245.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-245.ucr.edu [138.23.208.245]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DZC50975 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:57:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <63A7B14C-B69D-4EE4-875B-748CD04ED8B0@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:56:33 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] New photo from my OM-system X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 18:56:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49906e5b279498512572685 On Feb 8, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Chris Crawford wrote: > I've added a new OM photo to my website & blog tonight. I think it > is a > powerful one of my grandpa's old cat, Molly. > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com > > Shot with an OM-4T on Tmax 3200 (EI 1600), using a Zuiko 50/1.4 with > serial > over 1,100,000 Hi Chris; Lovely photo, as is usually the case. Like the framing and composition, how it's split 2/3 window, 1/3 frame, and Molly withdrawn into herself. Nice to see OM+Z being used, and film. Saw my photo professor couple days back, and inquired if I (as a campus staff member, not student) can still get access to the darkroom. Hopefully will find out soon, and will jump back onto the OM wagon. I miss shooting the 1n+50/1.4. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:01:20 2009 Received: (qmail 1196 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:01:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:01:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8DD430145 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5B8D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E62319F38B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:01:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3DB19F361 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:01:10 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f12.google.com (mail-qy0-f12.google.com [209.85.221.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by qyk5 with SMTP id 5so2687954qyk.14 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:01:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.114.10 with SMTP id m10mr7140702qac.306.1234202468789; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:01:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <032C0FB1-E081-4497-A56F-0636C53A83B5@people.net.au> <42D982D9-7605-4C14-99A1-08E123B753E2@people.net.au> <14883a8b0902090700m6c1c40b8tbb048450cf8f6eea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:01:08 -0500 Message-ID: <14883a8b0902091001o452975d9m2a7de9a0d29c679c@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Curmudgeon training X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:01:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49906f70285822070262475 Perhaps. Actually the movie's main character, portrayed by Clint Eastwood, is named Walt. Charlie On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > Are we sure this isn't a documentary about Walt? > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:08:06 2009 Received: (qmail 26753 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:08:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC774301AF for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F376D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9BC19F3E3 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:07:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D72719F3DD for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:07:56 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so426524ywk.80 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:07:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.142.15 with SMTP id p15mr2899017and.33.1234202875499; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:07:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49906494.9020509@mirko2.jazztel.es> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> <4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es> <91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> <49906494.9020509@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:07:55 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f5e7a09c6e53d3bd Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:08:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49907106288905368819438 > > An Olympus E-4 with 10Mp with no color interpolation will be plenty > enough for our purposes. > I would suspect that an E-4 will probably be in the 14-16MP region. I've decided that unless I absolutely need to buy something sooner, I'll just skip over the E-3 and current 10-12MP variants and get the next E-Beast that comes out. Fuji Pro 160S is serving duty for when I need higher pixel-counts than what the E-1 gives me and is nearly identical to the E-1's color and contrast. In the meantime, I'm REALLY enjoying the images and quality that I'm getting from my killer OM system. A couple days ago I negotiated with the organization I shoot a HUGE annual shindig for and we established a budget for film/processing. The majority of images will be digital, but I have up to 10 rolls included in the pricing schedule. One thing we're doing differently this year is I'm shooting for a planned layout instead of just shooting everything that breathes and letting them figure things out later. Regardless, the usage will still be between 50 and 100 published images and hundreds of prints. As it is a non-profit, I pretty much keep the profit margin non-existent. I used a second shooter last year, but may forgo it this time as we doubled our frame-count, but the number of keepers only increased by maybe 15%. I can roll the cost of the second shooter into film/processing as well as a couple of radio-triggered cameras buried on-stage. For the "awards ceremony", I'm thinking about a remote-triggered ISO-400 equipped OM body with wide-angle lens mounted inside the podium. They do the "grip-n-grin" about 10 feet back from the podium. I never could use the podium before because it was a see-through jobby, but I understand they now have a new one. If not, I'll mount the camera on a tiny tripod hidden behind a plant at the edge of the platform, but I know the angle won't be quite right. I shoot this part of the ceremony from the balcony with a full complement of strobes buried in with the stage lights. (the entire stage is almost 120 feet wide, by about 60 feet deep, so I have to use some serious horsepower) Hmm. Maybe I can hire my daughters to be my assistants. They're doing extremely well. For this event, I'll be using the OM-3Ti with 35-80/2.8, MD-2 and T45 flash. The E-1 will be used with radio triggers to my strobe-farm. The OM-2S with MD-2 (or Winder) would be wirelessly triggered (still working on getting the ebay remotes to work correctly for that) and adjusted for ambient lighting conditions. The OM-4T would also be setup for ambient lighting or may be the camera to use for wireless operation. My goal is to get it back under 3000 pictures. Last year, two of us shot around 6000 pictures. We were out of control. I realized that my trend for the past three years has been getting pretty sloppy and shooting hundreds of dupes to get that one "killer shot" which never materialized or was even used in the final layout. But one thing different this year is that the first night they're doing a huge banquet held in a gymnasium. The lighting in there is "gutwrench-green" (resembling bile), so I'll change from ambient/on-camera flash to studio strobes blasting the ceiling with on-camera fill flash. This will give me a nice fall-off without the dungeon look. They want "table-shots" of everybody this year. :( So, the point of all this rambling is that the ancient technology still serves a purpose and to the dedicated (crazy) photographer a powerful tool in the arsenal. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:15:09 2009 Received: (qmail 1002 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:15:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66629430148 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E694ED0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFC534AC02D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6B234AC02B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sproul-dhcp-245.ucr.edu (sproul-dhcp-245.ucr.edu [138.23.208.245]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.3-GA) with ESMTP id DZC57049 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:15:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:14:57 -0800 References: <498C151E.3030408@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Another photo by Chris X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:15:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499072ad60431073733319 On Feb 6, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Marc Lawrence wrote: > The latest photo on Chris Crawford's blog is another one I > particularly > like, and so I felt the need to pass it on to the Olympus list: > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com/?p=153 > > Not bad, hey? http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com/fine_art/portfolio/prairie-grove/photopages/prairie-pulpit.htm is the one I'm partial to, out of that series. Something about how light (in every sense) and airy it feels. befitting the subject. /s -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:18:32 2009 Received: (qmail 22115 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:18:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711BA430172 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA5BD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5104134AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:18:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5EF34AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:18:21 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 9so431135ywk.80 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.41.9 with SMTP id o9mr3068798ano.39.1234203500794; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:18:20 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dd4e89123108026b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:18:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990737894109347015869 > > Made in China ??????????????????????????????? > > You must be kidding ! > No sir, I'm not kidding. They're actually pretty nice units and I understand they can be easily converted to bunker oil. The one thing I noticed different about them is the driven wheels appear to be smaller diameter than the older, retired American units. Therefore, the pistons are shuttling faster than I've ever seen before. I photographed them passing by at about 60MPH, and those things were just about a blur. I suspect that was probably about the top speed for these locomotives. BTW, they aren't small. They're the size of a regular diesel-electric. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:23:38 2009 Received: (qmail 31475 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:23:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:23:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01DA430161 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F878D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B2434AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:23:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535B834AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:23:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.92]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 85087 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2009 18:23:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ev8YNQUVM1lRfw50kc..oIir3vAp36hf6qxn06eLS1XVOmq2q7Owk0W1zoBRQe98B5CHYS14wblwvk2H5YLMj38_owEvaas3RsaZwo4v6xEQ5KBI3bfvsWRhDfXjzk71tR5uH9kbTv2TJikvhKNwPkMJEUzzG3GvFytq4FrRB9FnjRPP27K2z5f_21EW Received: from [86.163.213.16] by web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:23:27 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:23:27 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <970393.79140.qm@web86007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: [OM] Olympus microscope cameras X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:23:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499074aa314541234514069 Anyone interested in these Olympus "toys". Very cheap buy it now price, basis of experimental pin hole camera etc. (Bill Barber pricking up his ears!) 110349103285 E*bay Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:33:01 2009 Received: (qmail 30456 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:33:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E5B43012A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C09D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD2C34AC029 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:33:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499076dd183351234514069 http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/bushfires_in_victoria_australi.html hope any and all listees and aussies are ok... someone needs to balance the madness the northerners bring here :) and the boston bigpicture photoblog is a worthwhile daily stop -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:47:55 2009 Received: (qmail 25869 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:47:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:47:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A3E43010D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14521D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C7E34AC02B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:47:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A257434AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:47:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.226.203]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KET000BHAUGAMO0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:47:04 -0600 (CST) Message-id: <49907A2F.5060802@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:47:11 -0500 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:47:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49907a5b138851234514069 About 15 years ago (maybe 20) the NYS&W bought a brand new (I think) 2-8-2 or something like that from the Chinese manufacturer. On it's way over the container ship hit terrible weather. Either the whole ship sank or the loco slid overboard and went to the bottom. John On 2/9/2009 1:18:20 PM, Ken Norton (ken@zone-10.com) wrote: > > > > Made in China ??????????????????????????????? > > > > You must be kidding ! > > > > > No sir, I'm not kidding. They're actually pretty nice units and I > understand > they can be easily converted to bunker oil. > > The one thing I noticed different about them is the driven wheels appear > to > be smaller diameter than the older, retired American units. Therefore, > the > pistons are shuttling faster than > I've ever seen before. I photographed > them passing by at about 60MPH, and those things were just about a blur. I > suspect that was probably about the top speed for these locomotives. > > BTW, they aren't > small. They're the size of a regular diesel-electric. > > AG > -- -- ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 19:57:23 2009 Received: (qmail 8537 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 18:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 18:57:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FF6430128 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50ECD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EA519F78A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:57:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6C219F761 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:57:16 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f20.google.com (mail-ew0-f20.google.com [209.85.219.20]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by ewy13 with SMTP id 13so1586374ewy.14 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.17.14 with SMTP id 14mr4049287ebq.181.1234205835197; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc1-bahd1-0-0-cust754.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.10.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm1031033gvb.33.2009.02.09.10.57.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 10:57:13 -0800 (PST) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <499042EA.60303@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:57:10 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmKxl3h/B73jkjvR/+n67ejDow2RwAIY+4g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <499042EA.60303@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 19:57:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49907c93291701470116606 I read about this engine. Evidently fully compliant with current code re braking, electrics, communications etc. and will be used for charter work on mainline network. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Hermanson [mailto:omtech1@verizon.net] Sent: 09 February 2009 14:51 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London I love the steam engines but am surprised they would build a new one (I understand China builds them on a regular basis). They are huge money pits, labor intensive, huge polluters, but fun to watch and listen to. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chris Barker wrote: > I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a > little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm > > This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the > business! > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 20:50:17 2009 Received: (qmail 31816 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 19:50:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 19:50:16 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CB94301BC for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85044D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9B119F9C9 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:50:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A077819F97E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:50:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.88]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 92951 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2009 19:50:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: rwLj.nYVM1ntLI7NH1JuMiyw65pvCChWggq3jMjRf2uM_dh6MJ4zWgLQDtesdjTB9FqFTfKXdBqwdP_wGQpKLlI.2znbODozGze_R.6RclMAyd1wj1gQKA8dD8Go4JbZQW3hUiDqYrJU7NJ71J1pjOc.u6XZHslqNJmDhUfCwd5iob531zDLcOj2LhZb Received: from [86.163.213.16] by web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:50:05 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:50:05 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <147738.91146.qm@web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 20:50:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499088f9217777350615338 The boiler for the British steam train was built in China. British companies no longer had the expertise to build it. Unlike original steam train boilers it is of welded NOT riveted construction. Shipped over from China and dropped straight in. NO "modification" needed. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK ........................................................................... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Norton" <> > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London > > The Iowa Interstate Railroad imported two steam > locomotives from China -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 21:59:21 2009 Received: (qmail 2010 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 20:59:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 20:59:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF9743014A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4811CD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2593934AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:59:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D350734AC029 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:59:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 12:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24480 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2009 20:59:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.155.28) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 20:59:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <03258389-69E3-4FB4-8131-25462BBA4A39@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:58:55 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 21:59:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49909929160671869477228 On 10/02/2009, at 3:09 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > The Iowa Interstate Railroad imported two steam locomotives from > China and > had them customized for legal use here in the States. > http://www.iaisrr.com/sites/iaisrr.com/files/Steam_0.pdf Where's the piccies?!! > > This railroad had bought these for experimentation to see if they > could be > used in actual fleet use. The short answer is yes, but the manual > labor > costs ate up the savings in fuel. As a general rule, it takes 20 > man-hours > of operation and maintenance for every hour of rail time. Our local narrow-gauge uses volunteers for the maintenance. Strangely, they have no shortage. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 22:06:04 2009 Received: (qmail 20738 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 21:06:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 21:06:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE095430154 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E9BD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5406719FC01 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:05:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DB619FBFE for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:05:54 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <49909AB0.6040702@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:05:52 +0100 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090913y5dedc236q1f6103e00a678b3e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902090913y5dedc236q1f6103e00a678b3e@mail.gmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 21:05:53.0454 (UTC) FILETIME=[318CD4E0:01C98AFA] Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 22:06:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49909abc150142070262475 I followed your conversation with Chris, and considered that a possibility, but when I use adobe camera raw I see the same detail as master, but with slightly different brightness/colour. > No Mac here, but you are sort of dealing in issues I was just trading > notes with Chris Barker about within this thread subject heading. > What are your sharpness settings for jpg? Is Master using jpg picture > settings (including sharpness) for this initial presentation of what > you see in RAW? > > Joel W. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 22:23:02 2009 Received: (qmail 26404 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 21:23:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 21:23:01 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDBC1C40F44 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D317AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17AC34AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:22:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C287E34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:22:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28303 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2009 21:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.155.28) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 21:22:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <6F0A2536-5397-4F2F-AA07-BE5CE2D58188@ucr.edu> References: <6F0A2536-5397-4F2F-AA07-BE5CE2D58188@ucr.edu> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:22:43 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] fires in ozland X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 22:23:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49909eb6291601838542571 That's a great set of pix - I've seen some before but not at that resolution. One correction - as I said, temperatures reached almost 47 deg. - 38 deg would have been a relief. Deaths so far reported at 173 - that's not huge by the scale of some disasters but somehow it's the way they die that bothers me. The radiant heat is a killer as well - it's intense. Nice point there about the horse - this is a big horse-owning area. I was listening to a woman at work yesterday who was panicking because a fire had been reported near where here horse is stabled - she seemed somewhat less concerned about a couple of staff members who live near the Bunyip fire. I just walked away from her, rather than saying something unpleasant. Nice to see the Tynong truck too I have a friend who is out there now and he is attached to that group of stations - Tynong, Tynong Nth & Maryknoll. Anyone care to identify that camera on the ground? :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/02/2009, at 5:32 AM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/ > bushfires_in_victoria_australi.html > > hope any and all listees and aussies are ok... someone needs to > balance the madness the northerners bring here :) > > and the boston bigpicture photoblog is a worthwhile daily stop -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 22:33:14 2009 Received: (qmail 21010 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 21:33:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 21:33:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB71C40F3D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16BBD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E0D34AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:33:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CB534AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:33:06 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.244]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so1994127rvb.50 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.206.13 with SMTP id i13mr4139430rvq.258.1234215186173; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:33:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? 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On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: Anyone care to identify that camera on the ground? :-) On 10/02/2009, at 5:32 AM, siddiq@ucr.edu wrote: > http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/ > bushfires_in_victoria_australi.html > > hope any and all listees and aussies are ok... someone needs to > balance the madness the northerners bring here :) > > and the boston bigpicture photoblog is a worthwhile daily stop -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 22:51:08 2009 Received: (qmail 9669 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 21:51:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 21:51:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C5A4301EE for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEED7D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB2119FD00 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:51:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A5319FCFA for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:50:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n19LouZR020185 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:50:56 +1100 Message-Id: <200902092150.n19LouZR020185@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:50:56 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:50:56 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] fires in ozland X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 22:51:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990a54c20021470116606 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > > Anyone care to identify that camera on the ground? :-) > Andrew Fildes I think it qualifies as one of Bill's Krappy Cams now ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 22:56:41 2009 Received: (qmail 27932 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 21:56:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 21:56:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4F543017A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C82D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D423419FD23 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C04B19FD22 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 0999543EEG for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:33 -0800 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:56:32 -0800 Message-ID: In-reply-to: <200902092150.n19LouZR020185@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] fires in ozland Thread-Index: AcmLAIWoGNUU+Qj8SSWhZJS0hiGPxgAAI6Xw From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2009 21:56:33.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[45558330:01C98B01] Subject: Re: [OM] fires in ozland X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 22:56:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990a699321691529615919 >> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: >> >> >> Anyone care to identify that camera on the ground? :-) >> Andrew Fildes >I think it qualifies as one of Bill's Krappy Cams now ! >...Wayne I found the image a couple before it of the 'alloy wheels' puddled on the ground fascinating. At least the camera chassis remained intact, structurally. Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. 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This one is a scene from the big market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much else: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB More to come once I have edited the pictures. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Feb 9 23:55:34 2009 Received: (qmail 21247 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 22:55:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 22:55:32 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476E143018B for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C85D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C33334AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73BD34AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22377 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2009 22:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.155.28) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 22:55:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <6F0A2536-5397-4F2F-AA07-BE5CE2D58188@ucr.edu> Message-Id: <16803B98-4B58-4852-92A1-6E82FBC062B7@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:55:12 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] fires in ozland X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Feb 9 23:55:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990b466206581470116606 Thought you'd be more interested that the firefighter in Image 5 is female (I think). Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/02/2009, at 8:33 AM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > gah, beat me to it! > > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > > > Anyone care to identify that camera on the ground? :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 00:31:42 2009 Received: (qmail 6614 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 23:31:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 23:31:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C9D43017E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9ABD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FDC19FE96 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6CE19FE95 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frugal@tildefrugal.net whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KET00D0XO064AE1@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:31:18 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-89-229-38.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.101]) ([24.89.229.38]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:31:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:31:15 -0400 From: Andrew Dacey In-reply-to: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <1567FF89-3D81-4636-AA46-E60F3AAB63B5@tildefrugal.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoABAPxLkEkYWeUm/2dsb2JhbAAI0WeEGgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,407,1231128000"; d="scan'208";a="423847713" References: <498D9D8C.20106@chucknorcutt.com> <498DC414.6000600@gmail.com> <498DDA4D.4040908@adinet.com.uy> <300.98e00e00562d8e49.002@comkal.net> <498E4F45.10403@adinet.com.uy> <498E4BDB.3070800@chucknorcutt.com> <498F4D52.8020208@adinet.com.uy> <9e908c1f0902090502g356175aj740771c08aac7262@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] deleting image files in camera. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 00:31:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990bcde104611234514069 I'd agree about the mis-exposures except that while watching Michael Reichman's Lightroom 2 tutorial video (which was quite good, and I'd highly recommend it to those who are new to Lightroom as I am) one of Jeff Schewe's shots taken at Niagara looked almost completely white in the preview but they were able to salvage a very nice looking shot out of it (obviously shooting raw), I think it ended up as one of his selects from the shoot. On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > I think that advice dates back to the dark ages of early DSLRs with > poorly > implemented disk operating systems or too little cache. I do it > all the > time with my A1 and E-1 with never a problem. > > About the only things I delete, however, are the obvious outtakes--the > blurs, the misexposures, etc. When shooting things like portraits, > If I > take a dozen shots of a particular pose, unless they blink, I keep > them. > It's hard to judge a photo on a 1.5 inch screen. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 00:38:32 2009 Received: (qmail 26684 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 23:38:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954794301ED for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A2FD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0A819FE66 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:38:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4C219FEA8 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:38:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.147]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so257044eyg.26 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.58.17 with SMTP id g17mr2554890eba.149.1234222704055; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc1-bahd1-0-0-cust754.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.10.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm1746997gve.30.2009.02.09.15.38.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:38:23 -0800 (PST) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <03258389-69E3-4FB4-8131-25462BBA4A39@people.net.au> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:38:20 -0000 Message-ID: <1A3E699C64BC4E14A57E12381CACCB22@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <03258389-69E3-4FB4-8131-25462BBA4A39@people.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmK+UqcnnDcsobAQRuUqkultLXo7AAFhm4g Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 00:38:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990be78259751946193717 Here is the site of the project sponsors http://www.a1steam.com/ Dave -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] Sent: 09 February 2009 20:59 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London On 10/02/2009, at 3:09 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > The Iowa Interstate Railroad imported two steam locomotives from > China and > had them customized for legal use here in the States. > http://www.iaisrr.com/sites/iaisrr.com/files/Steam_0.pdf Where's the piccies?!! > > This railroad had bought these for experimentation to see if they > could be > used in actual fleet use. The short answer is yes, but the manual > labor > costs ate up the savings in fuel. As a general rule, it takes 20 > man-hours > of operation and maintenance for every hour of rail time. Our local narrow-gauge uses volunteers for the maintenance. Strangely, they have no shortage. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 00:46:28 2009 Received: (qmail 13768 invoked by uid 0); 9 Feb 2009 23:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Feb 2009 23:46:27 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A8B1C40F4C for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF77D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B476D19FED6 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A76D19FED7 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6602 invoked by uid 504); 9 Feb 2009 23:46:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Feb 2009 23:46:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4990C045.2060904@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:46:13 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 00:46:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990c054318861702588592 I love this one. I wouldn't even Photoshop anything. ;-) Chuck Norcutt Nathan wrote: > I spent Sunday wandering around the Brussels markets with two Leica > friends, Michiel and Philippe. This one is a scene from the big > market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has > all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much else: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB > > More to come once I have edited the pictures. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 01:02:44 2009 Received: (qmail 22008 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 00:02:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 00:02:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25F7430287 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0783D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9E219FF1E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893BC19FF18 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2346256wfg.26 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.90.16 with SMTP id n16mr3238397wfb.314.1234224146736; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49909AB0.6040702@picturepedia.org> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090913y5dedc236q1f6103e00a678b3e@mail.gmail.com> <49909AB0.6040702@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:02:26 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902091602m676665deg19e9ace3eec213e8@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 01:02:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990c424146071257536491 I just tried looking at a couple RAW +jpg files I shot yesterday in Master 2. The thumbnails look identical. When I click "Basic 2" to edit the RAW version, I can see that by default it is reading the picture settings (in my case VIVID is what I used). So I think that's why the thumbnails look identical. I doubt if this is the behavior of third-party software -- at least it's not the behavior of Lightroom. Come to think of it, I haven't the slightest idea what Lightroom views as default settings for RAW. Anyway, Lightroom and Capture One show the jpg and RAW initially as quite different, and I'm guessing this is true of all the third-party RAW converters. I don't think you can compare Master 2 behavior to anything other than possibly Studio. Joel W. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM, SwissPace wrote: > I followed your conversation with Chris, and considered that a > possibility, but when I use adobe camera raw I see the same detail as > master, but with slightly different brightness/colour. > >> No Mac here, but you are sort of dealing in issues I was just trading >> notes with Chris Barker about within this thread subject heading. >> What are your sharpness settings for jpg? Is Master using jpg picture >> settings (including sharpness) for this initial presentation of what >> you see in RAW? >> >> Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 01:19:22 2009 Received: (qmail 4677 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 00:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 00:19:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5D41C40515 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B613ED0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2C934AC028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9BA34AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:19:15 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.88]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32921 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2009 00:19:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BVHr_xYVM1lr8JO5JuWUeyKyq4LCHjVzhVrrdsi9Bv5FkYgcnzCB4XgoatndLkw.E9QnCLecuh8DrOkZ5erRkwkJ9XyTLCBHBhAAEEThbA2Sz75XBwiGoW9wcKAYVGg6TauLvP0fhbsUckgppUSE.xibaWHit4omE5_brr10fBc_xHnLOqOU4wTXnNqMsMRXPBElN0lfpbz1SWZx6JW9Hb5m3ooU910FBaXp8kI- Received: from [86.163.213.16] by web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:19:14 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:19:14 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <1A3E699C64BC4E14A57E12381CACCB22@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <700754.32634.qm@web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 01:19:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990c80a321351993019900 Thanks David. My original information was incorrect, the boiler was made in Germany not China. Thanks for the info on the site. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK ........................................................................... --- On Mon, 9/2/09, David Bell wrote: > From: David Bell > Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > Date: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 11:38 PM > Here is the site of the project sponsers > http://www.a1steam.com/ > Dave -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 02:18:38 2009 Received: (qmail 32398 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 01:18:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 01:18:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0571C40F46 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D604BD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15AB1A026D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:18:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A571A0262 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:18:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-185.ctimail.com [61.93.57.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n1A1IHEs016814 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:18:17 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n1A1IHrF028336 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:18:17 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <5472C22DFEB84B16986A0BC5800EE74D@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com><261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es><2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main> <4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es><91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main> <49906494.9020509@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:18:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 02:18:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990d5ee149229117217770 Forget about this ancient article, I have seen this long ago. I have also = seen luminous-landscape article mentioned the 3MP 30D file already better = than 35mm RDP III image in resolving details. People can be wrong not = everything on the net is reliable. Now I have my own 4000dpi scanner, my own E-1 file and my own 21MP files. I = have two usable eyes, I don't need to consult anyone. You just mentioned your E-1 file already beat your own Ektachrome E100 = slides with such careful test (use the OM50/2 and divide the scan into 64 = cells!), are you sure you need a digital camera with higher MP? :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- = From: "David Irisarri" Dear C.H.Ling, I found this article very interesting. I wanted to see if this perception I had about contrast of digital images was true or false. http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedetail/scandetail.html#digi2camres2 I still think a 5Mp camera without bayern pattern can beat 35mm film. The main problem is color interpolation. An Olympus E-4 with 10Mp with no color interpolation will be plenty enough for our purposes. David Irisarri C.H.Ling escribi=F3: > Sorry, I think I need a new monitor, I don't see what you mean, the film > image is very fine and details to my eyes at 100% (actual pixel) veiw. = > There > is simply not enough pixels on the 5MP image, even a true 5MP (RGB) image > will not resolve the details as seen on the film image. > > If you don't see what I mean, just look at the poster to read the small > characters. > > BTW, I don't see any problem to work with film images. After scanning over > 10K images, I found I started to love negatives more. > > C.H.Ling > > > ----- Original Message ----- = > From: "David Irisarri" > > Dear C.H. Ling, > > This is exactly what I mean. Nice example, even concentrating on the > center the image is so blurred and it lacks of so much deail that you=B4ll > need a PS unsharp mask of 200 and radius of 2.0 to sharpen the image. > This is the main problem of 35 film images. The second one blows away > the first one. > > There is no point seeing a higher number of pixels with more blurred = > detail. > > If bayer pattern in the second image could be removed, 5Mp would be > plenty enough to blow away 35mm images in clarity and definition. > > Now try to select something inside the 35mm image with the PS magic hand > tool, due to the lack of contrast detail, etc... it=B4s almost impossible. > Digital SLR images have contrast, detail and it=B4s much easier to work > with them. Believe me that it was a nightmare to retouch 35mm images > some years ago. > > Regards, > > Dave > > > .H.Ling escribi=F3: > >> I can't agree with you, E-1's resolution is far from 35mm film can >> provide. >> Here are two shots I took in 2004 (sorry, some might have seen them in >> previous discussion ). >> >> OM4Ti 21/2 at F5.6 >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/P_06.jpg (3.3MB) >> >> E1 with 11-22 at F4 1/800s >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/P8193517.jpg (1.2MB) >> >> Please just concentrate on the center resolution, as my 21/2 seems to = >> have >> some problem on the edges. Check especially the lamps inside the shop. >> The film shot are clearly MUCH better. >> >> I'm enjoying my OM-5D II's 21MP quality, just love the fine details in = >> the >> images.... may be I will try to make a Velvia 50 comparison again: >> >> OM-5D II, 35-70/3.6 at F5.6 >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0845_F.jpg (6.5MB) >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 02:21:26 2009 Received: (qmail 6683 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 01:21:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 01:21:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1034E1C40F60 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EDBD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:21:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3C41A0274 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:21:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE1C1A0266 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:21:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2073849rvb.50 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.43.19 with SMTP id v19mr4303242rvj.115.1234228878679; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm2643885rvb.6.2009.02.09.17.21.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:21:18 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <16803B98-4B58-4852-92A1-6E82FBC062B7@people.net.au> References: <6F0A2536-5397-4F2F-AA07-BE5CE2D58188@ucr.edu> <16803B98-4B58-4852-92A1-6E82FBC062B7@people.net.au> Message-Id: <1AA4F9B2-3BD6-4A92-9E0C-064E18AD1339@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:21:14 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] fires in ozland X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 02:21:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990d69513941470116606 well, we already established that Oz is a civilized country - but yay! indeed, it's good to see, and i'm sure they do an excellent job just like their male counterparts (as opposed to what they believe in italy, claiming that women are too physically weak to do this job). nico. On Feb 9, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: Thought you'd be more interested that the firefighter in Image 5 is female (I think). Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/02/2009, at 8:33 AM, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > gah, beat me to it! > > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > > > Anyone care to identify that camera on the ground? :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 02:26:06 2009 Received: (qmail 25774 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 01:26:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 01:26:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2002D1C40F59 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8487AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776B834AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:26:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73C034AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:25:59 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.247]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2075437rvb.50 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.87.13 with SMTP id p13mr3105529rvl.229.1234229159474; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:25:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm17571295rvf.1.2009.02.09.17.25.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:25:58 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> References: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:25:55 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 02:26:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990d7ad171629117217770 nice shot - as a language person, i could not help but notice that you are at the gare du midi (french) and most of the board is written in french (wording on top of the frame and name of the company), but the message in the ad is in flemish... i find it interesting. and pink! (and yes, the top eyelashes are very, very fake, just in case someone is wondering) nico. On Feb 9, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Nathan wrote: I spent Sunday wandering around the Brussels markets with two Leica friends, Michiel and Philippe. This one is a scene from the big market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much else: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB More to come once I have edited the pictures. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 02:30:55 2009 Received: (qmail 10457 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 01:30:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 01:30:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6471C40F3A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE6FD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670B634AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC14634AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:47 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (andrew.gullen@sympatico.ca whitelisted) Received: from blu0-omc3-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.99]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP88 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:47 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [69.158.4.221] X-Originating-Email: [andrew.gullen@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Received: from [69.158.4.221] ([69.158.4.221]) by BLU0-SMTP88.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:30:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> References: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> From: Andrew Gullen Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:29:39 -0500 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2009 01:30:47.0489 (UTC) FILETIME=[33221B10:01C98B1F] Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 02:30:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990d8cf221721234514069 Nicely seen! Any idea what the binary in the background says? (As a computer person, I couldn't help but notice... :-) Andrew On Feb 9, 2009, at 17:28, Nathan wrote: > I spent Sunday wandering around the Brussels markets with two Leica > friends, Michiel and Philippe. This one is a scene from the big > market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has > all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much else: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB > > More to come once I have edited the pictures. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 02:57:20 2009 Received: (qmail 10372 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 01:57:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 01:57:19 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9351C40F3D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1CD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB41A02D8 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:57:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130FB1A02E0 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:57:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.237]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1A1vAGc024151 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:57:11 +1100 Message-Id: <200902100157.n1A1vAGc024151@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:57:10 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:57:10 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 02:57:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990df0087391869477228 ...and what is the binary message on the building behind ? ...Wayne > Nicoletta Da Ros <> wrote: > > nice shot - as a language person, i could not help but notice that > you are at the gare du midi (french) and most of the board is written > in french (wording on top of the frame and name of the company), but > the message in the ad is in flemish... i find it interesting. and > pink! (and yes, the top eyelashes are very, very fake, just in case > someone is wondering) > > nico. > Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 03:19:22 2009 Received: (qmail 9307 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 02:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 02:19:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236121C40F61 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960F7D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5121A032F for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:19:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF001A032E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:19:13 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-239.ctimail.com [61.93.57.239]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n1A2JBLP020615 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:19:12 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n1A2JBVN014441 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:19:11 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au><499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org><4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org><0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main><499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es><2E728A8ACE5F42749BEF0F6F547D60E7@main><4990585D.7070102@mirko2.jazztel.es><91C84D63E86941DAAF187E53C1829F93@main><49906494.9020509@mirko2.jazztel.es> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:18:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 03:19:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990e42a129294673671140 It is smart to wait, I went the wrong way to E-3 and sold the E-1, from in and out it is not right to me. The size, the focusing problem, the title viewfinder.... But it has been four years, I just can't wait :-) I belive the E-4 will be in 15-20MP range. MP war is just started in DSLR. N*kon is catching up, one cannot say their 12MP is better than the other's 20MP. Olympus cannot just stopped there at 12MP. Quality control is the key for Olympus, they need much higher precision in lens manufacturing than FF. I have seen two kit lenses and one 11-22 has problem myself, one side of the image is sharper than the other side. I have totally lost confidence on their products. I really enjoy the OM lenses, their build quality is great and the optics are quite nice even in today's standard with the exception of the coners which they expected it is covered by slide mount :-) BTW, I whish you have a successful shooting day(s). C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" > > I would suspect that an E-4 will probably be in the 14-16MP region. I've > decided that unless I absolutely need to buy something sooner, I'll just > skip over the E-3 and current 10-12MP variants and get the next E-Beast > that > comes out. Fuji Pro 160S is serving duty for when I need higher > pixel-counts > than what the E-1 gives me and is nearly identical to the E-1's color and > contrast. > > In the meantime, I'm REALLY enjoying the images and quality that I'm > getting > from my killer OM system. > > A couple days ago I negotiated with the organization I shoot a HUGE annual > shindig for and we established a budget for film/processing. The majority > of > images will be digital, but I have up to 10 rolls included in the pricing > schedule. One thing we're doing differently this year is I'm shooting for > a > planned layout instead of just shooting everything that breathes and > letting > them figure things out later. Regardless, the usage will still be between > 50 > and 100 published images and hundreds of prints. As it is a non-profit, I > pretty much keep the profit margin non-existent. > >...................... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 03:20:59 2009 Received: (qmail 3995 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 02:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 02:20:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61CE1C40F46 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25FCD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB711A0334 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:20:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9BC1A032D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:20:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12449 invoked by uid 504); 10 Feb 2009 02:20:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.101?) (chucknorcutt@72.185.125.184) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Feb 2009 02:20:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4990E47B.7010406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:20:43 -0500 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 03:20:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990e48b41949347015869 Looks like binary gibberish to me. Certainly not extended ASCII text. Too many high order bits turned on to make sense. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Gullen wrote: > Nicely seen! > > Any idea what the binary in the background says? (As a computer person, > I couldn't help but notice... :-) > > Andrew > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 17:28, Nathan wrote: > >> I spent Sunday wandering around the Brussels markets with two Leica >> friends, Michiel and Philippe. This one is a scene from the big >> market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has >> all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much else: >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB >> >> More to come once I have edited the pictures. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 03:26:37 2009 Received: (qmail 14606 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 02:26:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 02:26:36 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E134175199E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6177AD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1CC1A0341 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:26:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.806 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.806 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.806] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD361A0340 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:26:30 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Bypassed (policy server error) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.251]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2096357rvb.50 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:26:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.231.7 with SMTP id d7mr3331460wfh.124.1234232789674; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:26:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:26:29 -0800 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0902091826s6066d0bydab75ec79520032d@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] FS: 85/2, 40/2, 24/2.8 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 03:26:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990e5dd24631234514069 I have put these lens on the auction site. If anyone on the list is interested and want to make an offer (as close to the BIN as possible), let me know and I will pull the listing. Search for didjiman42. Thanks. -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 03:34:22 2009 Received: (qmail 22177 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 02:34:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 02:34:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF4F1751989 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33234D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A22934AC006 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:34:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB24734AC02D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:33:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip06.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.84]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KET009C7WGEQ8A1@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:33:50 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-224-166-224.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.166.224]) by ip06.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:33:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:33:50 -0400 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <32F11AC7AFEF482EA169D04EAA593339@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8PAKR2kEkY4Kbg/2dsb2JhbACBaIhTx1MHhBMG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,183,1233547200"; d="scan'208";a="466190369" References: <5BEFF208-6B73-494F-B050-58FEAF2A016C@threeshoes.net> <498EFD8C.70005@chucknorcutt.com> <37BBF694-2575-4D21-AA71-015908939F6F@threeshoes.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 03:34:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990e7ae7389347015869 Has Sir Richard Branson expressed any interest in taking delivery of a flee= t = of these modern day Flying Scotsmen in order to spiff up Virgin Trains :-) jh ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Steam train arrives in London Probably because they could (:-)), but one of the "official" reasons is that all the original models of the Peppercorn A1 were scrapped. But the real reasons will have been to do with the romance of steam, wonder at the machinery and the fact that they found enough people to sponsor its construction to the tune of some =A33m. Chris On 8 Feb 2009, at 15:43, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > What was the reason for building a new steam engine? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Chris Barker wrote: >> I know that there are some steam spotters on the List, so here's a >> little bit of "modern" nostalgia for you. >> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7876333.stm >> >> This locomotive has just been built and it looks and sounds the >> business! > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 05:05:07 2009 Received: (qmail 15929 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 04:05:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 04:05:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA991C40F42 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79F6D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F5B34AC003 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:05:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A6234AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:05:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (r.burnette@insightbb.com whitelisted) Received: from mxsf06.insightbb.com (mxsf06.insightbb.com [74.128.0.76]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:04:59 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,183,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="608843181" Received: from unknown (HELO asav00.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf06.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2009 23:04:58 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQCAAeLkEmsH/l7/2dsb2JhbAAIgjgxQ4J8y2aEGgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,183,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="70297967" Received: from unknown (HELO mta4.manage.insightcom.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by asav00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2009 23:04:58 -0500 Received: from insightbb.com ([172.31.249.123]) by mta4.manage.insightcom.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KEU006Q80O9HWP0@mta4.manage.insightcom.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.31.249.184] (Forwarded-For: [172.31.249.184]) by msb0.manage.insightcom.com (mshttpd); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:04:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:04:57 -0500 From: Robert Burnette In-reply-to: <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit) Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <30EBA143727840EE8559530A2C39D2BE@main> <4990212E.9070402@chucknorcutt.com> <261F721A63E74D5F810B4F6251BE929A@main> <499031EB.5000802@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090610w501f4a0dg18d938807a115bb8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 05:05:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4990fcf3137591234514069 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Wilcox=A0 > I also wonder whether you shouldn't turn off IS if the camera is > tripod-mounted? > = > Joel W. > = Olympus recommends turning IS off when using a tripod. Robert -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 06:06:12 2009 Received: (qmail 12485 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 05:06:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 05:06:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85101C40F5E for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94E2D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A621A04A3 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:06:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419011A049F for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:06:03 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.243]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2150001rvb.50 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:06:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.70.11 with SMTP id s11mr3387206wfa.141.1234242362846; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:06:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0902091602m676665deg19e9ace3eec213e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <200902090337.n193b19a032034@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> <4990394D.5050907@picturepedia.org> <0068833A11604B98BD46C02827DD43AB@main> <499046DA.30707@mirko2.jazztel.es> <499056FE.2090402@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902090913y5dedc236q1f6103e00a678b3e@mail.gmail.com> <49909AB0.6040702@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0902091602m676665deg19e9ace3eec213e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:06:02 -0600 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0902092106g4d5d015ci9724b0dda6dcfff0@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 06:06:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49910b4482601591313764 Replying to myself! I finally removed Viewer from my PC and installed Studio 2 (which can't be installed unless you remove Viewer, grumble grumble). Like Master 2, it uses the jpg Picture settings as a starting-point for RAW development. IIRC correctly, DeepPeeveReview used ACR for RAW development when they tested the E-3? They seem to have preferred jpg over RAW to some degree. They should be used either Master 2 or Studio 2. If you think the E-3 makes good jpgs, the RAW version looks exactly the same when it opens up in Studio 2. I really want to like Lightroom better, but it looks like Studio 2 is the ticket. I guess it really ought to be. Joel W. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > I just tried looking at a couple RAW +jpg files I shot yesterday in > Master 2. The thumbnails look identical. When I click "Basic 2" to > edit the RAW version, I can see that by default it is reading the > picture settings (in my case VIVID is what I used). So I think that's > why the thumbnails look identical. I doubt if this is the behavior of > third-party software -- at least it's not the behavior of Lightroom. > Come to think of it, I haven't the slightest idea what Lightroom views > as default settings for RAW. Anyway, Lightroom and Capture One show > the jpg and RAW initially as quite different, and I'm guessing this is > true of all the third-party RAW converters. I don't think you can > compare Master 2 behavior to anything other than possibly Studio. > > Joel W. > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM, SwissPace wrote: >> I followed your conversation with Chris, and considered that a >> possibility, but when I use adobe camera raw I see the same detail as >> master, but with slightly different brightness/colour. >> >>> No Mac here, but you are sort of dealing in issues I was just trading >>> notes with Chris Barker about within this thread subject heading. >>> What are your sharpness settings for jpg? Is Master using jpg picture >>> settings (including sharpness) for this initial presentation of what >>> you see in RAW? >>> >>> Joel W. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 06:27:15 2009 Received: (qmail 19428 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 05:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 05:27:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C971C40F41 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8B1D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D0834AC002 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:27:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE3134AC001 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:27:08 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:27:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from vodsl-10389.vo.lu ([85.93.207.149]:6396 helo=[172.16.12.66]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LWl9G-0004F6-Kv (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:27:06 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: <8D7C0316-8AD4-4156-90F9-C29EA388B614@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:27:05 +0100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 06:27:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49911033180963675314703 Thanks, Nico. As for language, this is typical Brussels--it is a bilingual city, especially during the working week when many thousands of Flemish people from the surrounding suburbs come into the city to work. It is said that on weekends, Brussels is 15% Flemish and 85% Walloon, but on weekdays it is more like 50/50. In this example, JC Deceaux is just the name of the company that owns the advertising board. It is the world's largest provider of "street furniture". Cheers, Nathan On 10/02/2009, at 2:25, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > nice shot - as a language person, i could not help but notice that > you are at the gare du midi (french) and most of the board is written > in french (wording on top of the frame and name of the company), but > the message in the ad is in flemish... i find it interesting. and > pink! (and yes, the top eyelashes are very, very fake, just in case > someone is wondering) > > nico. > > > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Nathan wrote: > > I spent Sunday wandering around the Brussels markets with two Leica > friends, Michiel and Philippe. This one is a scene from the big > market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has > all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much > else: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB > > More to come once I have edited the pictures. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 06:37:25 2009 Received: (qmail 30864 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 05:37:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 05:37:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2F41C40F35 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB29D0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA3F1A04F8 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:37:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF021A04FD for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:37:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nicodaros@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:37:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id f25so2160528rvb.50 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.180.5 with SMTP id h5mr4425850rvp.281.1234244215367; Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (75-142-198-128.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com [75.142.198.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm18041254rvb.4.2009.02.09.21.36.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:36:54 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8D7C0316-8AD4-4156-90F9-C29EA388B614@frozenlight.eu> References: <7663D134-D3F0-4955-B2E8-8E7EAA61658A@frozenlight.eu> <8D7C0316-8AD4-4156-90F9-C29EA388B614@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: <9A8009EF-9375-4D39-8625-29C123346F2D@gmail.com> From: Nicoletta Da Ros Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:33:12 -0800 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 06:37:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4991129451911993019900 that is very true - i see it here, too, so close to L.A., where you can have signs in english, italian, spanish, chinese and korean within the span of a handful of streets. i just find it fascinating, that's all, being sort of trilingual myself - which is why it's the first thing i noticed, together with the pinkness of the board! nico. On Feb 9, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Nathan wrote: Thanks, Nico. As for language, this is typical Brussels--it is a bilingual city, especially during the working week when many thousands of Flemish people from the surrounding suburbs come into the city to work. It is said that on weekends, Brussels is 15% Flemish and 85% Walloon, but on weekdays it is more like 50/50. In this example, JC Deceaux is just the name of the company that owns the advertising board. It is the world's largest provider of "street furniture". Cheers, Nathan On 10/02/2009, at 2:25, Nicoletta Da Ros wrote: > nice shot - as a language person, i could not help but notice that > you are at the gare du midi (french) and most of the board is written > in french (wording on top of the frame and name of the company), but > the message in the ad is in flemish... i find it interesting. and > pink! (and yes, the top eyelashes are very, very fake, just in case > someone is wondering) > > nico. > > > > On Feb 9, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Nathan wrote: > > I spent Sunday wandering around the Brussels markets with two Leica > friends, Michiel and Philippe. This one is a scene from the big > market outside the city's main train station, Gare du Midi. It has > all manner of food, clothes, "genuine" designer handbags and much > else: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#470794104_Wpfij-O-LB > > More to come once I have edited the pictures. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 07:05:26 2009 Received: (qmail 16260 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 06:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 06:05:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EC41C40546 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CCAD0404A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5E61A055C for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:05:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170031A056A for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:05:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n1A64HIh009756 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:04:17 +1100 Message-Id: <200902100604.n1A64HIh009756@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:04:17 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:04:17 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 07:05:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49911926159071869477228 > Nathan <> wrote: > > In this example, JC Deceaux is just the name of the company that owns > the advertising board. It is the world's largest provider of "street > furniture". > Yeah, they seem to have taken over in my area of Oz (bus stops, etc.) ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 10:09:04 2009 Received: (qmail 22898 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 09:09:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 09:09:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1B0430287 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5FF44004F for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D2719DAB5 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEF419DA67 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sandyinchina@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so2601194wfg.26 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.170.6 with SMTP id s6mr3493099wfe.82.1234256935148; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:08:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:08:55 +0800 Message-ID: From: sandyinchina To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Sensor patterns (was E-3 versus E-1 - pictures better with E-1) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 10:09:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49914430189841838542571 David Irisarri wrote: > Do you think future cameras will have more than 20Mp??? IMHO 15Mp is > plenty enough and please take into account bayern pattern will disappear > in a near future, so effective resolution will be a true 15Mp image. No > more interpolation required for generating an image from surrounding pixels. The assertion about Bayer patterns disappearing is interesting. Can you justify it? -- Sandy Harris, Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 11:02:17 2009 Received: (qmail 22973 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 10:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 10:02:15 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B9B430222 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8397144004F for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3A119DCEE for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA5519DCE1 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:09 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LWpRQ-0008Jd-06 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:02:08 +0100 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:01:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200902100157.n1A1vAGc024151@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200902100157.n1A1vAGc024151@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/02/2009: Gare du Midi market X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Feb 10 11:02:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 499150a9279641234514069 Nice picture indeed! I was struck by the message on that board "So curly, so irresistable!" next to the man lifting his cap to show why he is angry about it.. Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:57:10 +1100, Wayne Harridge wrote: > >...and what is the binary message on the building behind ? > >...Wayne > > >> Nicoletta Da Ros <> wrote: >> >> nice shot - as a language person, i could not help but notice that >> you are at the gare du midi (french) and most of the board is written >> in french (wording on top of the frame and name of the company), but >> the message in the ad is in flemish... i find it interesting. and >> pink! (and yes, the top eyelashes are very, very fake, just in case >> someone is wondering) >> >> nico. >> > >Wayne Harridge > >http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Feb 10 12:09:18 2009 Received: (qmail 5353 invoked by uid 0); 10 Feb 2009 11:09:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.mail.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.72) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Feb 2009 11:09:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C7543022A for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8820B44004F for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE0B34AC024 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:09:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B515934AC027 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:09:07 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from tardis.comkal.net (tardis.comkal.net [192.168.1.40]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 10 Feb 2009 22:08:58 +1100 Message-ID: <300.90230b0048609149.024@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:08:56 +1100 (EDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6F0A2536-5397-4F2F-AA07-BE5CE2D58188@ucr.ed