From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:00:34 2009 Received: (qmail 23666 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:00:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:00:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C9AE182E9 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3797E2412E for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D8C19F34B for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8C319F345 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2568939fxm.14 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.73.70 with SMTP id p6mr2519230bkj.213.1238536825772; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:00:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200903312150.n2VLorWI017526@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200903312150.n2VLorWI017526@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:00:25 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0a8e7b55ddb516d5 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Red River Valley X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:00:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29282160111823421471 > > Me too ! Don't remember much of the lyrics, but I don't recall anything > about floods though. > "How High's the Water, Moma?" - Johnny Cash -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:06:15 2009 Received: (qmail 23921 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:06:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:06:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC5FE18303 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9878E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893FB19F369 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:06:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384C119F351 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:06:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.144] (helo=anti-virus03-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Lom5w-0007VM-1V for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:06:08 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lom5v-0000rl-Ko for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:06:07 +0100 Message-ID: <49D293DC.9020506@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:06:20 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200903312150.n2VLorWI017526@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Red River Valley X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:06:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d293d758681499373980 Ken Norton wrote: >> Me too ! Don't remember much of the lyrics, but I don't recall anything >> about floods though. >> > > > "How High's the Water, Moma?" - Johnny Cash Or "Please Don't Play 'Red River Valley'", even..! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:08:00 2009 Received: (qmail 7212 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:07:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:07:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12022E18306 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6B5E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AA334AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA1134AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2VM7rO2028892 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:07:53 +1100 Message-Id: <200903312207.n2VM7rO2028892@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:07:53 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:07:53 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:08:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2944044121234514069 > Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: > > Have you tried formatting the card in the camera after getting the "card > > full" error? > Yes, tried that, still get "card error" > > If that doesn't work go back and reformat the card making sure that you > do *not* use the "quick format" option. > I definitely didn't use "quick format" in the PC, but I did just accept the default which may have been inappropriate for the camera. I'll try exploring the format options on the PC and see whether the camera handles it differently. > > I suspect the problem is lame Olympus firmware. Let us know what > happens. > Yes, probably. I wonder whether the camera essentially only does a "quick format" and not a "full format". ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:08:30 2009 Received: (qmail 9080 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:08:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:08:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F889E182FF for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C722E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD519F375 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:08:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2D619F369 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13674 invoked by uid 502); 31 Mar 2009 22:08:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.166.136) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 31 Mar 2009 22:08:10 -0000 Message-ID: <49D29447.3050403@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:08:07 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <60f983080903310458s3ea999e3r3222e943d7635397@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60f983080903310458s3ea999e3r3222e943d7635397@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] First Experience of self-development to push up ISO X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:08:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2945e68271823421471 Michael Wong wrote: > The result is not pretty good but get an experience. Pictures are not > edited except resize & minor USM. Too many skills to be learned for > both film > development & printing ~_~ > > TMAX 400 push to ISO1600, 20$B!n(B 10 mins with TMAX developer. > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/NTK_ISO1600 Pretty good, overall. Youdo have some details to iron out, like the streaks and the light lower corners. Clean up pretty nice. > > TMAX 400 push to ISO3200, 23.5$B!n(B 10 mins with TMAX developer. > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/NTK_ISO3200 Not much difference from the 1600. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:11:49 2009 Received: (qmail 4106 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:11:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:11:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4595EE182F4 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9821E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C3219F382 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD63E19F380 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14138 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2009 22:11:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.186.141) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:11:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D28E71.1010405@chucknorcutt.com> References: <32B48000-6B31-4E01-92AC-DC9DEBDB68F7@frozenlight.eu> <49D25152.1030601@chucknorcutt.com> <49D28E71.1010405@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <22AB51A8-C958-4762-9B09-E7364E87F4D4@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:11:38 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/03/2009: Didier in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:11:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29525170989117217770 Ah, but it's heavier. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 8:43 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > As a reported Leica user I take it he doesn't abide by that advice. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Never trust a camera that's smaller than your steak. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:13:47 2009 Received: (qmail 17856 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:13:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE089E182E4 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C8AE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB28334AC05A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:13:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E41E34AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:13:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15432 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2009 22:13:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.186.141) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:13:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D28F4D.30606@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <421DF14B39454F34AF41C0293B60EB96@your9ya3hf92n3> <49D1F6C6.3070408@blueyonder.co.uk> <8F4EA5FE-27E4-495C-8C57-7EB0F68B3659@people.net.au> <49D28F4D.30606@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-Id: <4326C360-69DB-4806-9D3F-40032CED8DE1@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:13:37 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:13:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2959b144138512572685 Indeed. But they are sticking with 'small'. It appears to me that Contrast Detection AF has been used only in Live View so far but is now an available mode for normal shooting. Have I got that right? Anyone know the advantage? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 8:46 AM, Donald wrote: >> Is the 420 Contrast Detection AF - I'll have to go check. That's >> developed for the Micro 4/3rds system. >> I did expect them to get IS into it though - using the reduced size >> IS module and circuit board from the 620. >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> > > Yes, that would have been nice. At the entry level it kinda makes > sense, no? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:16:35 2009 Received: (qmail 32383 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:16:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:16:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E7DE18301 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EDDE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12C19F38B for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A1E19F37F for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18644 invoked by uid 502); 31 Mar 2009 22:16:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.166.136) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 31 Mar 2009 22:16:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49D29639.5060403@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:16:25 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200903312153.n2VLrrAQ014842@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200903312153.n2VLrrAQ014842@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:16:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29643164542070262475 Wayne Harridge wrote: > I thought the camera would just format the device however it wanted it, without any regard to how it may have been formatted previously. > Canon, yes. Others, perhaps. Oly, only EVER format in the camera. Perhaps it's related to Oly software ... > Does the camera really "format" the card ? > Yes, quick format for CF, I believe. For xD, at least on the non-DSLRs, they do some special formatting trick to accommodate the panorama format.. NEVER, EVER format an xD card on any device but the camera you are going to use it with. Really. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:24:11 2009 Received: (qmail 6893 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:24:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B334E1830F for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAB3E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E55519F3A7 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3096C19F2C4 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LomNK-00058n-5G for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:24:06 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LomNJ-0005x5-P3 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: <49D29812.2020103@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:24:18 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] A4 inkjets X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:24:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2980b258861234514069 Any pointers to the current sota in photo inkjets at A4 maximum size prints? My venerable Deskjet 720c shows banding in large areas of colour and is getting a bit long in the tooth, now. Did I mention cost-effective? I'd like it cheapish. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:29:12 2009 Received: (qmail 11102 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:29:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:29:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F9CE18300 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132DBE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D168D19F3D1 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:29:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072119F3B7 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:29:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2VMT31N020850 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:29:04 +1100 Message-Id: <200903312229.n2VMT31N020850@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:29:03 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:29:03 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:29:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29938164781234514069 > Mike Stoesz <> wrote: > > Wyoming is mostly in wind zone 5-7 and is the 7th windiest state in the > US with a growing wind industry. About 300+ 1-1.5 megawatt turbines are > either installed or in the planning stages for my county (Albany County > Wyoming) So what happens once we remove all the energy from the wind ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:39:17 2009 Received: (qmail 15757 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:39:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:39:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8FBE18277 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91D1E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19F919F5CF for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E0219F4C3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2VMdAul010152 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:39:10 +1100 Message-Id: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:39:10 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:39:10 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:39:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29b95129738512572685 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > Your cameras hate PCs of course. > Never ever format on the pooter, mate. Well it was formatted in the camera (E-510 I think) when I first got the card, it was only after it gave me "card error" that I started looking at it in the PC. I sort of expected that if the card can work ok in the PC then it is not a faulty card and that the camera should be able to format the card regardless of how it was previously formatted. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:40:25 2009 Received: (qmail 29382 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:40:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59123E182FC for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F09E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB01F19F60F for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA7619F5E3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sproul-55-110.ucr.edu (sproul-55-110.ucr.edu [138.23.55.110]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id EHA56598 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <14F0A574-D00E-4C44-A770-CFA2C64BD7FF@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <200903312229.n2VMT31N020850@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:40:16 -0700 References: <200903312229.n2VMT31N020850@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:40:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29bd9235771342116753 On Mar 31, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: >> Mike Stoesz <> wrote: >> >> Wyoming is mostly in wind zone 5-7 and is the 7th windiest state in >> the >> US with a growing wind industry. About 300+ 1-1.5 megawatt >> turbines are >> either installed or in the planning stages for my county (Albany >> County >> Wyoming) > > So what happens once we remove all the energy from the wind ? > > ...Wayne Entities downstream complain that the air has been dirtied, and they can't generate power from it anymore. Few years later, the sanctioning body will regulate smaller wings, blah blah. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:48:52 2009 Received: (qmail 29599 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:48:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:48:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AF2E18277 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BB1E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889BD19F419 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C622019F359 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26568 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2009 22:48:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.186.141) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:48:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200903312229.n2VMT31N020850@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200903312229.n2VMT31N020850@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-Id: <5FF0B33D-C3C9-4BA8-B80F-C11491B48C80@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:48:43 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:48:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29dd432681591313764 Given what I ate last night, I think the wind has removed all energy from me. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 9:29 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > So what happens once we remove all the energy from the wind ? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:55:30 2009 Received: (qmail 23062 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:55:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:55:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC041E18301 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D24E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF94234AC057 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:55:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBC234AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:55:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n2VMtLNV002762 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:55:22 +1100 Message-Id: <200903312255.n2VMtLNV002762@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:55:21 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:55:21 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:55:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29f62101149347015869 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > At least Art Filters is now where it belongs - in the entry level! > Andrew Fildes Yes, we all know that the people who use the "Pro" cameras are already "artistic" so they don't need the filters. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 00:57:29 2009 Received: (qmail 7536 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 22:57:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 22:57:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FCDE182F6 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EEBE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A00634AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C7E34AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sproul-55-110.ucr.edu (sproul-55-110.ucr.edu [138.23.55.110]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id EHA64013 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <54117441-83E2-48D2-BCC6-499E4662F724@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <200903312255.n2VMtLNV002762@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:57:19 -0700 References: <200903312255.n2VMtLNV002762@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 00:57:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d29fd915877927319144 On Mar 31, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > >> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: >> >> At least Art Filters is now where it belongs - in the entry level! >> Andrew Fildes > > Yes, we all know that the people who use the "Pro" cameras are > already "artistic" so they don't need the filters. > > ...Wayne Oh they do... they just "buy" lensbabies for their pinhole effect! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 01:17:50 2009 Received: (qmail 18044 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 23:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 23:17:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1221E182E3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FEBE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0985334AC05E for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356A534AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mstoesz@wyoming.com whitelisted) Received: from omta0109.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dm23.mta.everyone.net (sj1-slb03-gw2 [172.16.1.96]) by omta0109.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0551E640EB for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Eon-Dm: dm23 Received: by resin15.mta.everyone.net (EON-PICKUP) id resin15.49d281a4.9de7; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090331161736.5E4A7B24@resin15.mta.everyone.net> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:17:36 -0700 From: "Mike Stoesz" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-Eon-Sig: AQLk+1NJ0qSQh5iXdwEAAAAB,b3c0b1576fc18f30b398114d51baff25 X-Originating-Ip: [97.112.254.130] Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 01:17:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2a49e92111073733319 Plenty of hot wind from all the worlds politicians. Mike --- wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:29:03 +1100 > Mike Stoesz <> wrote: > > Wyoming is mostly in wind zone 5-7 and is the 7th windiest state in the > US with a growing wind industry. About 300+ 1-1.5 megawatt turbines are > either installed or in the planning stages for my county (Albany County > Wyoming) So what happens once we remove all the energy from the wind ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 01:35:10 2009 Received: (qmail 19573 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 23:35:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 23:35:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22B5E182EB for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774DFE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7148D34AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AC734AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:35:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25275 invoked by uid 504); 31 Mar 2009 23:35:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 31 Mar 2009 23:35:03 -0000 Message-ID: <49D2A8A6.8090006@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:35:02 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200903312207.n2VM7rO2028892@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200903312207.n2VM7rO2028892@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 01:35:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2a8ae242462046811720 I just tried this myself using a 1GB CF card on WinXP. The default format chosen by Windows was FAT16. That's what I would have expected. It was showing FAT32 as an option but NTFS was not shown as a format option for this device. That's not surprising either for a small flash card. NTFS was specifically designed to minimize seek times on rotating disks by placing the directory structure at the middle of the data area. It's a B-tree system and has lots of formatting structural overhead which is probably a bit much for a small, electronic "disk". I then allowed XP to actually do a full format (quick format was not the default). I didn't time it but the formatting time was quite noticeable. The output device was a USB2 driven multi-card reader/writer. After formatting, the directory display, as expected, showed an empty "disk". I then put the card into the Mynolta A1 which did nothing until I asked to see an image. At that point it immediately reported "no images". I then took a shot with the camera which worked fine. After removing the card and sticking it into the computer I could see that, before actually taking the shot, the camera had created the directory structure that would normally be found after an in-camera format. The image could be displayed on the computer as expected. Afterwards, I formatted the card in the camara which proceeded much more quickly than in the computer. That may well have indicated a quick format. Or, maybe just a "smart" format. Maybe it doesn't go beyond the data extent indicated by the directory. I just made that up but consider it possible. So, in all of this testing there was only one surprise and that was rather mild. I expected the camera to complain when I tried to take a shot and it discovered that its expected directory structure wasn't on the card. It just did the logical thing. Create the directory structure before stashing the image. If anything, my Mynolta behaves a bit better and smarter than I expected. I can't say why Oly doesn't behave the same way. Too bad you don't have another non-Oly camera to try it out elsewhere. Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Chuck Norcutt <> wrote: >> >> Have you tried formatting the card in the camera after getting the "card >> >> full" error? >> > > Yes, tried that, still get "card error" > >> If that doesn't work go back and reformat the card making sure that you >> do *not* use the "quick format" option. >> > > I definitely didn't use "quick format" in the PC, but I did just accept the default which may have been inappropriate for the camera. I'll try exploring the format options on the PC and see whether the camera handles it differently. > >> I suspect the problem is lame Olympus firmware. Let us know what >> happens. >> > > Yes, probably. I wonder whether the camera essentially only does a "quick format" and not a "full format". > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 01:40:02 2009 Received: (qmail 3847 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 23:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 23:40:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ECBE18300 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EB6E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E1A34AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:39:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5DD34AC05A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:39:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m12.mail.aol.com (imo-m12.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.100]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c7b.51cb1456 (37543) for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.152]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB024-5bc949d2a9c134c; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:39:49 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-DC01 (webmail-dc01.webmail.aol.com [205.188.149.23]) by smtprly-db01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB018-5bc949d2a9c134c; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:39:45 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:39:45 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42169-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by WEBMAIL-DC01.sysops.aol.com (205.188.149.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:39:45 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB80711B271758-1390-11EB@WEBMAIL-DC01.sysops.aol.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Point Lobos, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 01:40:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2a9d240591073733319 Nice, Chuck.? Thanks for posting.? Really deliver the looking over the edge sensation? with the last one. Many straight lines to worry about lining up in the pano.? So, I've never heard you mention worryying about rotating about the nodal point---perhaps you keep enough of ?the foreground out of the image so it is not an issue.? I've seen that using shift lenses for a pano with linear elements in the image?can be a bear if there is linear distortion in the lens that varies over the image circle.? Geometrically a pano from a shift lens should be different, but I've never looked side by side often enough?(?ever) to determine if they really can be easily differentiated. Anyway, enjoyed the shots. Mike As promised, here are some shots from Point Lobos and a couple extra. The first is a pano of the Monterey Peninsula Yacht Club anchorage (north of Point Lobos), then 5 B&W shots of Point Lobos on a foggy day (looks like some need some more work) and finally, a shot from a high cliff overlooking the ocean somewhere south of Point Lobos as fog lifts from the water. The color shots are 5 frame panos that show considerable detail in the full size images. It's hard to see on the web size image but the last shot actually contains a house at far left. Look just over the edge of the cliff at far left and you'll see some trees hugging the cliff. On the water side of the trees is a house. It's very clearly visible in the full image. Enjoy, Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 01:54:28 2009 Received: (qmail 31017 invoked by uid 0); 31 Mar 2009 23:54:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Mar 2009 23:54:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86D4E182F0 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EACAE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C7034AC059 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1F734AC057 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:54:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2092 invoked by uid 504); 31 Mar 2009 23:54:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 01:54:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2ad34111178512572685 Contrast measurement is implemented entirely within the sensor and is used on point and shoots and focusing in live view with the mirror up (and shutter open, of course) Phase detection is used in SLRs and DSLRs when not in live view. Phase detection uses a beam splitter to form and compare two images. Phase detection can tell if an out-of-focus image is either back or front focused and start driving the lens immediately in the right direction to achieve focus. It's faster than conrast measurement which may have to hunt a bit to get started. But, while slower, contrast measurement is potentially more accurate. "Shutter open" above assumes there is an actual mechanical shutter that needs to be opened. That's not necessarily true. There may only be an electronic shutter which, again, is implemented within the electronics of the sensor. Or there may be both mechanical and electronic shutters as in my Mynolta A1. See the nitty-gritty in this Wiki article Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Indeed. But they are sticking with 'small'. > It appears to me that Contrast Detection AF has been used only in > Live View so far but is now an available mode for normal shooting. > Have I got that right? Anyone know the advantage? > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/04/2009, at 8:46 AM, Donald wrote: > >>> Is the 420 Contrast Detection AF - I'll have to go check. That's >>> developed for the Micro 4/3rds system. >>> I did expect them to get IS into it though - using the reduced size >>> IS module and circuit board from the 620. >>> Andrew Fildes >>> afildes@people.net.au >>> >> Yes, that would have been nice. At the entry level it kinda makes >> sense, no? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 02:20:50 2009 Received: (qmail 32258 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 00:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 00:20:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1057E182EA for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9777E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A444734AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAA934AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996F92E2E0D1 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uEhRYto6BdoH for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF2B2E2E0BE for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 02:20:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2b3624337350615338 > From: Ken Norton > >> I also have the feeling (but can't say for sure) that >> all these wireless networks in my workplace (I can see 24 stations >> emitting) are causing these headaches to be even worse... > > ... it is actually highly likely that you do sense and are > experiencing issues with microwave radiation. If you use a cell- > phone, > you're getting an especially intense dose right next to your head. > Use a > microwave oven? Same thing. How about some cordless phones? > Yup. 2.4gHz > Wifi? Yup. What do most of the above have to do with anything? > They emit > radiation at or near the frequency where water molecules vibrate. But there are many orders of magnitude difference between them! I once had someone lecture me about the evils of microwave oven radiation, claiming it gave him headaches to be in the same house with one -- he was telling me this from his cell phone, which he was on constantly, and from which he never complained of headaches. And yet, a properly installed and maintained microwave oven will leak no more than microwatts into the ambient, whereas a cell phone is pumping several watts directly into one's skull -- that's a 1,000,000 to 1 difference in power levels! Wifi is between the two. You get no more than milliwatts exposure from wifi, even when sitting on your lap -- roughly 1,000 times less energy than that emitted by a cell phone. And yet, some people who use cell phones with abandon claim wifi somehow hurts them. I once had a person insist I turn my GPS off, because of the "radiation." I pointed out that this was a passive device, that it didn't transmit anything, other than perhaps nanowatts of "noise" from the microprocessor within. She replied that the GPS antenna "sucks in the radiation from the satellites." Sheesh. There's also the "square law" relationship to consider: electromagnetic radiation goes down as the square of distance. This means EM drops off fairly rapidly with distance. Stand 1cm from a microwave oven to get the same dose of EM as standing 31cm from a wifi hub, or standing 10 metres from an operating cell phone! There's a great deal of pseudo-science out there regarding electromagnetic radiation -- much of it, I suspect, due to the unfortunate common word with "nuclear" radiation, which is an entirely different beast. I believe in the "precautionary principle." It's good to have rational, science-based doubts about anything that can be shown to have detrimental effects, especially at high levels and/or high frequencies. But as an electrical engineer (RF) and life-long amateur radio operator who owns several wideband spectrum analysers, I think there are some reasonable assumptions one can make about relative hazards, and I have absolutely no respect for arguments against microwave ovens and wifi when those arguments come from anyone who will get within 30 feet or so of a functioning cell phone! Common sense is all too uncommon when it comes to this subject. :::: ... the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the poplace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. -- HL Mencken :::: Jan Steinman -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 02:34:30 2009 Received: (qmail 1501 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 00:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 00:34:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C469E18305 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F091E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C8234AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D184B34AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19282 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 00:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] A4 inkjets X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 02:34:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2b696287571023412894 I don't have any test results for printers of that class but, if I was looking for one my requirements would be: 1) pigment inks (for longevity) 2) able to print labels on CDs 3) at least 4 (CMYK) and preferably more ink tanks I don't believe Canon has any all pigment ink machine in what I'll call the "under $100 class" printers. In fact, maybe they don't have any printer that is all pigment. That leaves Epson and HP. Both companies produce both dye and pigment ink printers with HP having been fairly late to the pigment inks. Epson pigment inks are called "Durabrite", dye inks are called "Claria". HP pigment inks are called "Vivera". I don't know what the HP dye inks are called or even whether there still are HP dye inks. I would doubt that there's a great deal of difference in performance between machines of equal price class and ink type. More ink colors, will however, likely produce better prints. Some printers, like the Epson Workforce 30 advertise 5 ink cartridges. But that's not 5 colors or two shades of black/gray. Just two black cartridges of the same type. So it's up to you to pore through the specifications of the printers available in your area or by mail and look for the printer that meets your personal specs. If I was looking for myself the first place I'd look is the "clearance center" at Epson. I just looked and see that Epson does have such a place in the UK. They sell closeouts and both older and current refurbished products. Maybe there's something here to your liking. Chuck Norcutt Donald wrote: > Any pointers to the current sota in photo inkjets at A4 maximum size > prints? My venerable Deskjet 720c shows banding in large areas of colour > and is getting a bit long in the tooth, now. > > Did I mention cost-effective? I'd like it cheapish. > > D. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 02:35:52 2009 Received: (qmail 5163 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 00:35:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 00:35:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3089AE182F3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7FE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D7C19F95F for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247F319F352 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19964 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 00:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 02:35:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2b6e8215042336821329 The earth's rotation will slow down from all the drag. Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Mike Stoesz <> wrote: >> >> Wyoming is mostly in wind zone 5-7 and is the 7th windiest state in the >> US with a growing wind industry. About 300+ 1-1.5 megawatt turbines are >> either installed or in the planning stages for my county (Albany County >> Wyoming) > > So what happens once we remove all the energy from the wind ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 02:43:24 2009 Received: (qmail 2766 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 00:43:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 00:43:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90A7E182F4 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2767E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A5D19F94C for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D93B19F945 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZpXt1b0070b6N64AF0jFRd; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:43:15 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a0jD1b00K2Axmu48P0jEB7; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:43:15 +0000 Message-ID: <52B3D295F69648FFAD21EB0F5B1394FA@PaulPC> From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49CD528D.8080704@chucknorcutt.com> <59D8EB86-3FDC-4624-91C4-9BC0613F40FD@mailcan.com> <160FF9EF-084C-4658-A03B-F40BFBF82E7A@threeshoes.net> <49D13C39.40402@gmail.com> <84E1FB28-6586-4491-B382-B549C9E699B0@gmail.com> <62DCA407-EA91-4F3E-9DC4-93DC826F4709@gmail.com> <49D289C3.4010309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D289C3.4010309@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:43:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 02:43:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2b8ac24601234514069 Oh Yeah, but I can remember when, if we received 10 or 12 pieces of mail in a month, it was quite a bit. And there really was no junk mail. Just the Sears and Wards big catalogs and their Christmas catalogs. And a lot of those were recycled through the outhouse. LOL Businesses in our large cities claim that they can't get by unless they get three deliveries a day. Losing Saturday delivery would not really bother me. Some of the Rural routes only get delivery two or three days a week now. Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour > The USPS is crying that the decline in mail volume is going to cause > them to have to cut service or go out of business. I suppose several > here were aware that "junk" mail and commercial delivery heavily > subsidize first class letter rates, but I don't think the general public > knows. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 02:48:29 2009 Received: (qmail 5116 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 00:48:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 00:48:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E24E18308 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31164E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E72734AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A073A34AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3E12E2E465 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VOD8WyIXwt1n for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC742E2E454 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2CDF49A0-161D-459C-8BE6-FE0EA11124B6@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:48:17 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 02:48:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2b9dd235229347015869 > From: Ken Norton >> >> OK, I give up. A good old post office will do then (though they're >> closing everywhere here). >> Anybody willing to start a nice analogue OM mailing list? Come to >> think of it, any news of the Odyssey camera's? > > I've been thinking of starting an film OM list... lol > > As to the good old post office, well things are migrating towards > RFID tags > as well as live-tracking of the postal delivery people. Sorry, that > won't > fly either. RFID tags are passive devices -- no transmitter, no EM. They work by re-radiating EM sent to them. So stay away from their scanners, and there's no EM hazard. :::: Magic: using envisioned intent and directed action to select your desired future path from among the infinite ones available. :::: :::: Jan Steinman, Communication Steward, EcoReality: http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 02:58:38 2009 Received: (qmail 28654 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 00:58:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 00:58:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8253E1830A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501BFE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3191D19F9BC for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:58:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8030019F9B5 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29861 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 00:58:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos, etc. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 02:58:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2bc3e143711869477228 Actually, I don't have a pano head and the tripod was only ever out of the car once so almost all of my panos (and there are lots of them) were done free hand. It's just that I'm being saved by a little caution on my part and lots of smarts in the software. This particular "over the cliff" shot is something of a miracle to me. There are 5 frames in the composition and the two right-most shots suffered very badly from lens flare from my Tamron 20-40 at 20mm and as it started to point toward the sun at the right. In the last frame I think the flared area was about 25% of the image. Really bad. I figured that the PS pano routine was going to choke. Actually, it did a couple times and built some strange things until I took over and manually positioned the images. But after that it produced (very nearly) the image you see with 95% of the lens flare done away with... I think because it was able to replace the flared part in one image by overlaying the non-flared part of the image to its left. Or something like that. I didn't think there was enough unflared image between all frames to do what it did but it did it anyhow. And it had to have done an overlay and not a blending. There were only two small brightly colored spots that I had to clone out to get get rid of the residual bits of flare. I have had my lenses (except for the Tamron 24-135) profiled for PTLens. When I build a pano I first run all the individual images through PTLens. Hopefully that helps them line up OK when trying to match the left of one image against the center or right of its neighbor. Seems to work anyhow. You can't really appreciate that look over the edge from the web size image. It was probably about 100 meters or so down to the bottom. A long way down in any case. Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > Nice, Chuck.? Thanks for posting.? Really deliver the looking over > the edge sensation? with the last one. Many straight lines to worry > about lining up in the pano.? So, I've never heard you mention > worryying about rotating about the nodal point---perhaps you keep > enough of ?the foreground out of the image so it is not an issue.? > I've seen that using shift lenses for a pano with linear elements in > the image?can be a bear if there is linear distortion in the lens > that varies over the image circle.? Geometrically a pano from a shift > lens should be different, but I've never looked side by side often > enough?(?ever) to determine if they really can be easily > differentiated. Anyway, enjoyed the shots. Mike > > > > > > > > > > As promised, here are some shots from Point Lobos and a couple extra. > The first is a pano of the Monterey Peninsula Yacht Club anchorage > (north of Point Lobos), then 5 B&W shots of Point Lobos on a foggy > day (looks like some need some more work) and finally, a shot from a > high cliff overlooking the ocean somewhere south of Point Lobos as > fog lifts from the water. > > > The color shots are 5 frame panos that show considerable detail in > the full size images. It's hard to see on the web size image but the > last shot actually contains a house at far left. Look just over the > edge of the cliff at far left and you'll see some trees hugging the > cliff. On the water side of the trees is a house. It's very clearly > visible in the full image. > > Enjoy, Chuck Norcutt > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 04:22:48 2009 Received: (qmail 22760 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 02:22:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 02:22:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76DBE18300 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13453E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072E534AC057 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863EA34AC059 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2583134bwz.14 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.135 with SMTP id x7mr2602590bkh.124.1238552558143; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:22:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:22:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6245b48da7aec87e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 04:22:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2cff8319441838542571 Jan the Ham wrote: >But there are many orders of magnitude difference between them! True, but they are also cumulative. I work in an office building which has hundreds of wireless 2.4gHz headsets in use, along with an extensive WiFi network (24 AP's visible from my desk). Not to mention the no less than 30 microwave ovens (two in every break room). As I sit here at my desk three and a half hours past the end of the normal business day when there are only a couple dozen people in the building working, my Fluke spectrum analyzer at my desk is measuring a noise floor of between -61 and -52 dB. The Spectran several feet away with a different antenna is measuring within two dB of the same. Channel utilization across all WiFi channels is no less than 10% and as high as 40% right now. During the middle of the day, the spectrum analyzers measure no less than -45dB anywhere in the building complex and as high as -15dB on the main call-center floor. The nearest microwave oven to my desk is about 100 feet and they'll typically kick in a signal strength of around -70dB. (these are calibrated analyzer/antenna setups). This is just in the 2.4 gHz ISM band. In the 5gHz ISM band I am seeing two continuous-wave microwave systems which are point-to-point systems running across town, of which my office location is directly in line with them. Both of these are 100% duty-cycle systems and even though our windows are RF attenuating (the nearest cell tower is four blocks away, but the moment I go into the building the reception drops 2-3 bars), the signal strength as measured is -22 dB. The sad thing is that compared to most city centers, this is nothing. Last trip I took to Chicago I brought the handheld spectrum analyzer with me and the typical RF noisefloor in the 2.4gHz ISM band was about -45 dB down by the board of trade out on the sidewalk. As to the 1.9 gHz cellphone bands, you really do not want to know. Seriously, you don't want to know.... > And yet, a properly installed and maintained microwave oven will leak > no more than microwatts into the ambient, whereas a cell phone is > pumping several watts directly into one's skull -- that's a 1,000,000 > to 1 difference in power levels! > Well, sorta. Depends on the cellphone brand/model as well as the mode. Analog cell coverage, which is becoming rather "film like" (ie, nonexistent) can utilize a lot more power output than most digital cellphone systems which will automatically wilt the signal strength (wattage) of the cellphone to allow the cellphone to extend the life of the battery as well as reducing interference across multiple towers. Wifi is between the two. You get no more than milliwatts exposure from > wifi, even when sitting on your lap -- roughly 1,000 times less energy > than that emitted by a cell phone. And yet, some people who use cell > phones with abandon claim wifi somehow hurts them. > LOL, maybe YOUR WiFi equipment. :) I take mine right up to the legal limit. (That's my story and I'm sticking with it--ahem, don't mind the +18dB antennas...). There's also the "square law" relationship to consider: > electromagnetic radiation goes down as the square of distance. This > means EM drops off fairly rapidly with distance. Stand 1cm from a > microwave oven to get the same dose of EM as standing 31cm from a wifi > hub, or standing 10 metres from an operating cell phone! And don't forget the fact that the natural attenuation of 2.4gHz in the air is more of a limiting factor than anything. I can put high-gain antennas on radios for point to point or fixed-to-mobile installations, but this is still not enough to "burn through trees". Common sense is all too uncommon when it comes to this subject. > Agreed. I still use cellphones, but my desk headset remains wired. You should see what a room full of Blackberrys will do to the RF space! AG (Glowing) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 04:34:14 2009 Received: (qmail 10326 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 02:34:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 02:34:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7520CE1830B for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D93E24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A30E19FAF3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B1B19FAAF for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2584951bwz.14 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.60.72 with SMTP id o8mr2602420bkh.184.1238553247083; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14F0A574-D00E-4C44-A770-CFA2C64BD7FF@ucr.edu> References: <200903312229.n2VMT31N020850@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> <14F0A574-D00E-4C44-A770-CFA2C64BD7FF@ucr.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:34:06 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a3ebb195087a3eea Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 04:34:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2d2a662811529615919 > > Entities downstream complain that the air has been dirtied, and they > can't generate power from it anymore. Few years later, the sanctioning > body will regulate smaller wings, blah blah. > There is a minimum spacing for the big monster wind turbines because of turbulence coming off of the blades. There has been evidence here of damaged corn crops when the wind is at a specific speed and the turbine is aimed a certain number of degrees from direct into the wind, that wingtip vortices will knock down the corn. I'll gladly leave the high-power "this will kill you voltages" to others. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 05:04:20 2009 Received: (qmail 18327 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 03:04:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 03:04:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C14E182E0 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4115C16E0002 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECDE19FB5F for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A366C19FB4F for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.155]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so1841065ywq.80 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.189.10 with SMTP id m10mr5543048anf.153.1238555053075; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:04:13 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 05:04:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2d9b42761585427447 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > The 1.5TB Seagate Barracuda is now down to $120 with free shipping at > Newegg =A0(along with the promo code you'll find here) > Good timing! Thanks Chuck. I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both filled on my Optiplex 620. I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250 GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. This device is looking attractive for backing up: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16817121046 Can be used with either USB or eSATA. Anybody try one? Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 05:19:12 2009 Received: (qmail 14659 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 03:19:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 03:19:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BE4E1830A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C924EE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8FC19FB97 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:19:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD8B19FB36 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:19:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11685 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 03:19:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.192.5) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 03:19:04 -0000 Message-ID: <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:19:00 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 05:19:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2dd3098741470116606 Joel Wilcox wrote: > > Good timing! Thanks Chuck. > > I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both filled on my Optiplex 620. I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250 GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. > > This device is looking attractive for backing up: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121046 > I don't know about that one. At least Chuck and I, and I seem to recall someone else here, are using this model. eSATA drives don't hot swap on my Vista. I need to ask for a disk rescan. > Can be used with either USB or eSATA. Anybody try one? > I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a bit faster than my 500GB drives. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 05:54:56 2009 Received: (qmail 15859 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 03:54:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 03:54:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A1FE1830D for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E36DE24129 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BC119FC07 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A376019FC03 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:54:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26617 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 03:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.207.92) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 03:54:49 -0000 Message-ID: <49D2E584.7070809@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:54:44 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 05:54:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2e59041401499373980 Wayne Harridge wrote: > I sort of expected that if the card can work ok in the PC then it is not a faulty card and that the camera should be able to format the card regardless of how it was previously formatted. > I have one CF card, a small, older Lexar, which works with the built-in reader on my desktop, one USB reader and the Fastrax storage device. Another USB reader simply doesn't recognize that it's there. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 06:08:12 2009 Received: (qmail 13058 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 04:08:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 04:08:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD28E182E3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00BCE2412E for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9322534AC05A for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EE334AC058 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [77.208.169.126] (port=49626) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lorjy-000778-Fc (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:07:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , LEG , Olympus Camera Discussion Message-Id: <73C51905-FBB6-4552-94B3-34C90FFF4AC5@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:07:44 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 31/03/2009: love on the shore of Lac Liman X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 06:08:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2e8ab177309347015869 My meetings ended, I went for a walk around Geneva yesterday afternoon. Spring was in the air, a bit at least. http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#503150227_kinSv-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 07:28:36 2009 Received: (qmail 10142 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 05:28:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 05:28:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50DE18316 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C79E2412E for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B72734AC057 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF6E34AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C442E3020E for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id noFF11c2zlYh for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF5B2E301F3 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:28:24 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 07:28:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d2fb84296138512572685 > From: Moose > > I suppose several > here were aware that "junk" mail and commercial delivery heavily > subsidize first class letter rates, but I don't think the general > public > knows. Yea, right. Sending crap no one wants that goes directly into recycling (or more likely, the landfill) for 18 cents a piece somehow subsidizes mail sent for 42 cents. But that's what the USPS tells us, so we believe it. Let's face it: it's a direct business subsidy. I have lived in MANY countries that have MUCH LOWER volume of junk mail, and they still manage to deliver first-class mail for comparable or slightly higher rates. Switzerland manages to do it for 74 cents (85 rappen), while allowing anyone to choose to not receive junk mail by putting a simple sticker on their mail box -- while also running one of the world's most inclusive public transportation system. (You can literally take public transportation anywhere you can send a letter, literally hopping on mail delivery vehicles in some areas.) Here in Canada, we pay just 39 cents (C$0.50) for first class, and we have the right to refuse junk mail. So we actually pay LESS than the US, with NO junk mail. Sorta belies the argument that junk mail subsidizes First Class, no? I'd gladly pay the extra 32 cents that it costs in Switzerland when I mail a letter if it meant there was essentially no junk mail. But that wouldn't be the American Way, where "free speech" is interpreted as a Constitutional right for businesses to clog your mailbox with trash at just 24% of what it costs to send junk mail in Switzerland and only 46% of what it costs to send junk mail in Canada. "We'll lose money on every piece, but we'll make it up in volume." :-) :::: Production from local resources for local needs is the most rational way of economic life. -- EF Schumacher :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.EcoReality.org:::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 08:03:01 2009 Received: (qmail 27130 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 06:02:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 06:02:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9BBE182E0 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B56E2412E for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F434AC054 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:02:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F1C34AC057 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:02:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11532 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2009 06:02:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 06:02:44 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D2AD2B.8070603@chucknorcutt.com> References: <421DF14B39454F34AF41C0293B60EB96@your9ya3hf92n3> <49D1F6C6.3070408@blueyonder.co.uk> <8F4EA5FE-27E4-495C-8C57-7EB0F68B3659@people.net.au> <49D28F4D.30606@blueyonder.co.uk> <4326C360-69DB-4806-9D3F-40032CED8DE1@people.net.au> <49D2AD2B.8070603@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <717CB203-1F2D-4598-B5EA-8829AE89F94B@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:02:48 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 08:03:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3039566961838542571 Thanks for that - the reason i asked is that on the press releases an specs., previous models have stated explicitly that Contrast Detection AF is available in LiveView - the E-450 does not, just the Contrast Detection AF Mode is available. It struck me that it may be possible to enable it in regular shooting where appropriate, but I can't find confirmation. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 10:54 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Contrast measurement is implemented entirely within the sensor and is > used on point and shoots and focusing in live view with the mirror up > (and shutter open, of course) Phase detection is used in SLRs and > DSLRs > when not in live view. Phase detection uses a beam splitter to > form and > compare two images. Phase detection can tell if an out-of-focus image > is either back or front focused and start driving the lens immediately > in the right direction to achieve focus. It's faster than conrast > measurement which may have to hunt a bit to get started. But, while > slower, contrast measurement is potentially more accurate. > > "Shutter open" above assumes there is an actual mechanical shutter > that > needs to be opened. That's not necessarily true. There may only > be an > electronic shutter which, again, is implemented within the electronics > of the sensor. Or there may be both mechanical and electronic > shutters > as in my Mynolta A1. > > See the nitty-gritty in this Wiki article > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Indeed. But they are sticking with 'small'. >> It appears to me that Contrast Detection AF has been used only in >> Live View so far but is now an available mode for normal shooting. >> Have I got that right? Anyone know the advantage? >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> >> >> On 01/04/2009, at 8:46 AM, Donald wrote: >> >>>> Is the 420 Contrast Detection AF - I'll have to go check. That's >>>> developed for the Micro 4/3rds system. >>>> I did expect them to get IS into it though - using the reduced size >>>> IS module and circuit board from the 620. >>>> Andrew Fildes >>>> afildes@people.net.au >>>> >>> Yes, that would have been nice. At the entry level it kinda makes >>> sense, no? >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 09:12:09 2009 Received: (qmail 10231 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 07:12:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 07:12:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA75E182EC for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A10AE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620D619FDBF for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:12:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9479D19FDB2 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:12:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26489 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2009 07:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 07:11:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <28655845-7E4F-4156-BCA5-880CA20929F6@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:11:57 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 09:12:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d313c9227422046811720 Are you serious - that the Free Speech amendment was used to limited people's right to refuse junk mail? If so, thank goodness we have no such constitutionaal right - just an implicit one! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 4:28 PM, Jan Steinman wrote: > But that > wouldn't be the American Way, where "free speech" is interpreted as a > Constitutional right for businesses to clog your mailbox with trash at > just 24% of what it costs to send junk mail in Switzerland and only > 46% of what it costs to send junk mail in Canada. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 10:03:28 2009 Received: (qmail 3833 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 08:03:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 08:03:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FD5E1830F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A03E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B0A19DA5E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4C419DA36 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3587274.7531238573634733.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from wbs-41-208-198-52.wbs.co.za ([41.208.198.52]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 407 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:13:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0869C20B-F3E0-4EC0-AB2B-66F56F6FAA46@thomasclausen.org> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:03:12 +0200 References: <23852905.7331238525742868.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <82A9C7AF-129D-4D6C-92CE-A38BB07C16E0@gmail.com> <49D280A5.8030509@chucknorcutt.com> <0869C20B-F3E0-4EC0-AB2B-66F56F6FAA46@thomasclausen.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 300/4.5 tripod collar fits 65-116 auto tube? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 10:03:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d31fd0240014673671140 On 31 Mar 2009, at 11:06 PM, Thomas Heide Clausen wrote: > Suggesting that there's a further piece of equipment that Dawid > needs, are you Chuck? :) Naaahhhh.... Not a chance. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 10:03:32 2009 Received: (qmail 7453 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 08:03:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 08:03:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D55CE18322 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7009E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9C019DA69 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EEB19DA36 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:26527 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LovPv-0007ZJ-3d for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:03:23 -0500 Message-ID: <49D31FC4.4000905@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:03:16 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <32B48000-6B31-4E01-92AC-DC9DEBDB68F7@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <32B48000-6B31-4E01-92AC-DC9DEBDB68F7@frozenlight.eu> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/03/2009: Didier in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 10:03:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d31fd43091023412894 was it bier halle wolf by any chance, had a few nice evenings in there myself better that the oktoberfest now which has been spoilt by drunks who can't handle the drink as opposed to those that also can't but do it in a nice way. :-) Nathan wrote: > good conversation with fellow LUGger Didier, at a traditional Swiss > beer hall with large beer and even larger Cordon Bleu. Once again, it > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 10:33:31 2009 Received: (qmail 2893 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 08:33:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 08:33:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36AAE182E8 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C27E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFBB361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:33:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F175F34AC057 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:33:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 01:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.146] (helo=anti-virus03-09) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Lovsw-00007n-L4 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:33:22 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lovsw-0004XD-6i for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:33:22 +0100 Message-ID: <49D326DE.1040502@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:33:34 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D29812.2020103@blueyonder.co.uk> <49D2B68D.4070406@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D2B68D.4070406@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] A4 inkjets X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 10:33:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d326db47262046811720 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I don't have any test results for printers of that class but, if I was > looking for one my requirements would be: > 1) pigment inks (for longevity) > 2) able to print labels on CDs > 3) at least 4 (CMYK) and preferably more ink tanks > > Thanks for replying, Chuck. I have a feeling fulfilling the criteria would wipe me out for a whole summer (low occupational pension), but I sometimes find workarounds for obtaining the seemingly impossible..! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 11:12:20 2009 Received: (qmail 27505 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 09:12:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 09:12:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD63E18314 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D62FE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FB1361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E68834AC058 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.251]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so3128776rvf.50 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.107.13 with SMTP id j13mr3952893rvm.65.1238577132995; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:12:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D29447.3050403@gmail.com> References: <60f983080903310458s3ea999e3r3222e943d7635397@mail.gmail.com> <49D29447.3050403@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:12:12 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fb3f419e06d835f0 Message-ID: <60f983080904010212m147b4d4csa1ba563043fa7a62@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] First Experience of self-development to push up ISO X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 11:12:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d32ff453502070262475 Thanks, Moose. The contrast is better upon edited :-) I expect to print out after get a 120 enlarger lens. --- Michael 2009/4/1 Moose > Michael Wong wrote: > > The result is not pretty good but get an experience. Pictures are not > > edited except resize & minor USM. Too many skills to be learned for > > both film > > development & printing ~_~ > > > > TMAX 400 push to ISO1600, 20$B!n(B 10 mins with TMAX developer. > > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/NTK_ISO1600 > > Pretty good, overall. Youdo have some details to iron out, like the > streaks and the light lower corners. Clean up pretty nice. > > > > > > TMAX 400 push to ISO3200, 23.5$B!n(B 10 mins with TMAX developer. > > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/NTK_ISO3200 > > Not much difference from the 1600. > > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 11:13:10 2009 Received: (qmail 17992 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 09:13:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 09:13:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3708E182FF for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B0AE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA18D34AC058 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EFE34AC054 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:36449 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LowVM-00086m-6Z for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:13:04 -0500 Message-ID: <49D33019.2090800@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:12:57 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 11:13:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d33026235842336821329 I also suffer headaches when using a mobile, unfortunately I need one for work and I think I will prefer to die from radiation than hunger, but I avoid using it as much a possible and mainly use it for text. I always carry my phone on a belt holster and 3 and a half years ago my wife gave birth to a child that has a genetic birth defect, I will always wonder if it was a result of carrying a mobile in such a fashion, these cases are on the rise and may or may not be due to increasing bombardment from microwaves, what my objection is though is that I have no choice to avoid it if I wish to, I can't see or smell it like smoke - remember that smoking was actively encouraged at the beginning until it was later found to be harmfull. > hazards, and I have absolutely no respect for arguments against > microwave ovens and wifi when those arguments come from anyone who > will get within 30 feet or so of a functioning cell phone! > > Common sense is all too uncommon when it comes to this subject. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 11:20:10 2009 Received: (qmail 11451 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 09:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 09:20:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7634CE182F2 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D544C16E0002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6CA19DD70 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:20:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120D419DD6C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:20:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.242]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so3132145rvf.50 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:20:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.170.5 with SMTP id x5mr3924838rvo.271.1238577602627; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:20:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D2773B.60808@gmail.com> References: <60f983080903310502sd31bf8bh95b7c8d9b0772fd0@mail.gmail.com> <49D2773B.60808@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:20:02 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c76ca21c3532d587 Message-ID: <60f983080904010220y210a7e55we0f69585e31b471f@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Hong Kong Flower Show 2009 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 11:20:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d331ca18698512572685 Moose, Thanks for your comment & advice. Will note & try next time, thanks. --- Michael 2009/4/1 Moose > Michael Wong wrote: > > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/HK_Flower_Show_2009 > > > > Some red Tulip flowers are over vivid upon scanned. Better result in > slide film >_< > > > > Some nice images there. > > Your problems with reds are in overexposure. If the slides look fine, > the problem is in the scanning. If you look at the histograms, you will > find that the red channel of some has clipped. IMG3759 is one where > clipping is severe. > > It's really easy to overexpose slide images of pure reds in bright > light, too. So it's possible you have a mixture of both problems. > > Two things happen when this occurs. Most important, what would be > nuanced graduations of red in the highlights all become the same value, > full red brightness. Thus, they look over vivid and plasticy. > > Secondarily, the small amounts of blue and green in the reds are not > clipped, so the color balance is subtly altered in the reds. > > The solution is fairly simple. First, scan an image like 3759 with > settings that make sure that the histogram doesn't reach the top, like > setting exposure down. Look at the histogram for the red channel. If > there is a spike at the top end of it, the film has clipped, and you > needed a lower exposure. Exposure meters can be fooled by this kind of > subject. It's good practice when shooting slides of bright red flowers > in bright light to adjust exposure down at least half a stop. > > If there's no spike, the film image is OK, and you need make sure your > scanner settings avoid highlight clipping. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 11:22:55 2009 Received: (qmail 28233 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 09:22:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 09:22:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA71E182FE for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA17E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2FC34AC058 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CA134AC057 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.248]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so3133431rvf.50 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.207.2 with SMTP id e2mr3943382rvg.121.1238577770042; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:22:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080903291201m69600e0fw1a0a648d2b414c70@mail.gmail.com> References: <60f983080903291201m69600e0fw1a0a648d2b414c70@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:22:49 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6a0a3a8b12692d77 Message-ID: <60f983080904010222s7302b95fx9111a0c3a91ea0e0@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB]Enlarger lens for 120 printing X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 11:22:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3326f86563675314703 Anyone willing to sell his/her love enlarger lens? Please contact me off the list, thanks. --- Michael 2009/3/30 Michael Wong > Prefer Rodenstock Rodagon-S or Schneider Componon-S, 75 or 80mm, F4 or > F4.5, M39 mount is must. Anyone who wish to sell his/her love enlarger lens, > please contact me off the list, thanks. > > My dark room is created & process 135 film printing :-) But it's not easy > to print a good picture, still learning :p > > > Thanks for all who gave me advice for 135 enlarger lens before :-) > > > --- > Michael > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 12:25:49 2009 Received: (qmail 14480 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 10:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 10:25:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C6FE182FB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 03:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B50E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 03:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA0634AC054 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 03:25:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DF434AC057 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 03:25:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 03:25:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHF005Q33MPJU40@asmtp028.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <142CA4C6-40D8-4256-A389-F03A87087C10@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <49D2823B.3050203@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:25:38 +0200 References: <20090331130450.35A8EBC1@resin14.mta.everyone.net> <49D2823B.3050203@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 12:25:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3412d295178512572685 Nah, it's about taking care of what happens when the wind increases over = what the wind turbines can handle. Today we go from maximun effect to = zero in a very short time and that is not to good for the grid. Our = system gives a more gentle decrease in energy. / Johan 31 mar 2009 kl. 22.51 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > Sound like it may well require the world's supply of lithium. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> cool! >> Well, then you absolutely need our new cool thing, the battery backup >> system for wind power parks: >> http://www.abb.com/cawp/ = >> seitp202/6e217c0c007b4bf0c1257527004e665d.aspx >> >> :)/ Johan >> >> >> 31 mar 2009 kl. 22.04 skrev Mike Stoesz: >> >>> Wyoming is mostly in wind zone 5-7 and is the 7th windiest state in >>> the US with a growing wind industry. About 300+ 1-1.5 megawatt >>> turbines are either installed or in the planning stages for my >>> county (Albany County Wyoming) The county size is about 45 miles >>> East to West, and 100+ miles North to South almost all in a very >>> high wind zone. Local altitude is 2200meters (7250feet), with >>> mountains on East at 2500meters and West at 3700 meters (12,000+ >>> feet). Annual average wind speed is 6mps + (12+mph). I am in the >>> permitting process of installing a 1Kw vertical axis wind turbine >>> on my building. The turbine can be seen at: http:// >>> www.tangarie.com . My wife is the Wyoming distributor for these in >>> our "green" store. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> --- jmalmstrom@mac.com wrote: >>> >>> From: Johan Malmstr=F6m >>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >>> Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour >>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:55:18 +0200 >>> >>> That doesn't seem to bad! >>> I got to check if we, my employer, has anything installed. If so, I >>> guess it will need a software update.:) >>> >>> / Johan (Employer: http://www.abb.com/facts ) >>> >>> >>> 31 mar 2009 kl. 21.50 skrev Mike Stoesz: >>> >>>> Wyoming is a wonderful place. High altitude, clean fresh air, low >>>> humidity, 25cm precipitation annually, wind from 5-80mph (3-40mps), >>>> temp range from -40 F or C or lower to 100+F (38C) or higher, = >>>> 60-70% >>>> annual sunny days or about 300 sunny days per year, population 5 >>>> people per square mile in 92,000+ square miles, largest city is >>>> about 65,000 maybe, smallest is 1-2 people and several dogs, cats, >>>> cattle, horses, antelope. Please come visit. >>>> >>>> Mike in Laramie >>>> >>>> --- zuikooh@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Iwert >>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>> Subject: Re: [OM] RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour >>>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:35:41 +0200 >>>> >>>> Ah, so we'll just all move close to each other, and start an OM- >>>> commune with barter system. >>>> I'll draw the plans :) Is Wyoming a nice place? >>>> >>>> Iwert >>>> >>>> >>>> Op 31-mrt-09, om 21:28 heeft Ken Norton het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>>>> OK, I give up. A good old post office will do then (though = >>>>>> they're >>>>>> closing everywhere here). >>>>>> Anybody willing to start a nice analogue OM mailing list? Come to >>>>>> think of it, any news of the Odyssey camera's? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've been thinking of starting an film OM list... lol >>>>> >>>>> As to the good old post office, well things are migrating towards >>>>> RFID tags >>>>> as well as live-tracking of the postal delivery people. Sorry, >>>>> that won't >>>>> fly either. >>>>> >>>>> AG >>>>> -- = >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>>> >>>> -- = >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- = >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> -- = >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- = >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 13:19:36 2009 Received: (qmail 29338 invoked by uid 0); 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Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-70-207.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.70.207]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n31BJPD2026887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:19:27 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <20090331130450.35A8EBC1@resin14.mta.everyone.net> <49D2823B.3050203@chucknorcutt.com> <142CA4C6-40D8-4256-A389-F03A87087C10@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <142CA4C6-40D8-4256-A389-F03A87087C10@mac.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:19:18 +1100 Message-ID: <000001c9b2bb$b38dc150$1aa943f0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmytDkuk70V4n1LTkK2jX/fAPeTIQAB1qDQ Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 13:19:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d34dc7117342046811720 Perhaps something like this instead: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v221/n5183/abs/221852a0.html ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [] = Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:26 PM To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour Nah, it's about taking care of what happens when the wind increases over = what the wind turbines can handle. Today we go from maximun effect to = zero in a very short time and that is not to good for the grid. Our = system gives a more gentle decrease in energy. / Johan 31 mar 2009 kl. 22.51 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > Sound like it may well require the world's supply of lithium. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 13:32:50 2009 Received: (qmail 27742 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 11:32:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 11:32:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C9CE182EC for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFA0E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF753610007 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:32:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C923610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 04:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30210 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 11:32:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 11:32:40 -0000 Message-ID: <49D350D8.9000909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:32:40 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 13:32:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d350e2277521838542571 I not only use the Thermaltake BlacX but just bought a second one for a backup should the first one fail and also the ability to copy from one external drive to another. I bought the first one from Amazon and the second from Newegg since, at the time (2 weeks ago), it was selling for $34.99 with free shipping. Today's price is $42.99 with free shipping. The KingWin is cheaper at $34.99 but doesn't offer free shipping. Probably a wash Whatever you get check it out soon. If you read the newegg reviews on the Thermaltake you'll find a couple DOA's and premature failures. But that's over 175 reviews and didn't keep me from buying the second one. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> Good timing! Thanks Chuck. >> >> I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both filled on my Optiplex 620. I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250 GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. >> >> This device is looking attractive for backing up: >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121046 >> > > I don't know about that one. At least Chuck and I, and I seem to recall > someone else here, are using this model. > > > eSATA drives don't hot swap on my Vista. I need to ask for a disk rescan. >> Can be used with either USB or eSATA. Anybody try one? >> > > I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can > be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a > bit faster than my 500GB drives. > > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:12:58 2009 Received: (qmail 21266 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:12:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:12:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E6E182E1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D37E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973483610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F953610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17714 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 12:12:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 12:12:51 -0000 Message-ID: <49D35A42.2040503@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:12:50 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D29812.2020103@blueyonder.co.uk> <49D2B68D.4070406@chucknorcutt.com> <49D326DE.1040502@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D326DE.1040502@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] A4 inkjets X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:12:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d35a4a253578512572685 I don't know if you have the Epson Stylus Photo R280 model in the UK but here's a refurbished version selling in the US for $55 with free shipping. It meets all the criteria except pigment inks. It uses Claria inks rather than Durabrite inks. It has 6 ink colors and is able to print CDs. It's so cheap I've considered buying one just for its ability to print on CDs which my current printer can't do. And here's an even cheaper one, the Epson Stylus C120. Available refurbished for $31.20 with free shipping. It doesn't do CD printing but it does have 4 color pigment inks with a fifth cartridge carrying an extra black ink tank. This one is so cheap I've considered buying it just for the ink it contains. New printers are rumored to contain something less than full ink tanks but, if the cartridges are at least half full, it's about break even as a full set of inks is about $65. Chuck Norcutt Donald wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> I don't have any test results for printers of that class but, if I was >> looking for one my requirements would be: >> 1) pigment inks (for longevity) >> 2) able to print labels on CDs >> 3) at least 4 (CMYK) and preferably more ink tanks >> >> > > Thanks for replying, Chuck. I have a feeling fulfilling the criteria > would wipe me out for a whole summer (low occupational pension), but I > sometimes find workarounds for obtaining the seemingly impossible..! > > D. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:13:28 2009 Received: (qmail 27632 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:13:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168EAE18277 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B478E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083EE3610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 required=7 tests=[SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649F13610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Bypassed (policy server error) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.86]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHF0084P8LR6IPJ@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:13:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D35A56.6050103@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:13:10 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <421DF14B39454F34AF41C0293B60EB96@your9ya3hf92n3> <49D1F6C6.3070408@blueyonder.co.uk> <15424173.7321238511140977.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-reply-to: <15424173.7321238511140977.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:13:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d35a68225934673671140 Yeah, the built in "filters" kind of dumbs it down. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Dawid Loubser wrote: > What a far cry from the OM days, when every new body actually > substantially differed and offered true value over an earlier one. > > I was shocked to see them continuing both, and I suspect it's only > to get rid of old E-420 stock. But come on (oh puh-leeease) - > > Art Filters?? > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:18:49 2009 Received: (qmail 20007 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:18:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C40E18309 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871EEE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A1E3610008 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA753610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.86]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHF00A8A8UTWAQF@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:18:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D35B9D.5090302@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:18:37 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49CD528D.8080704@chucknorcutt.com> <59D8EB86-3FDC-4624-91C4-9BC0613F40FD@mailcan.com> <160FF9EF-084C-4658-A03B-F40BFBF82E7A@threeshoes.net> <49D13C39.40402@gmail.com> <49D16CE0.9080902@chucknorcutt.com> <000101c9b1e9$dc1834c0$94489e40$@com.au> <49D200B2.6050301@chucknorcutt.com> <49D23576.4010704@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <49D23576.4010704@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:18:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d35ba9138711257536491 I'd always thought that a computer format puts files on the card that the camera won't recognize, and may make the card unusable. There's just no reason to format a camera card in a computer. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Rand E wrote: > could this be an issue of formatting the card in NTFS vs FAT(32) ? I > have several external devices that don't like NTFS formatting. > Rand E > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Have you tried formatting the card in the camera after getting the "card >> full" error? >> >> If that doesn't work go back and reformat the card making sure that you >> do *not* use the "quick format" option. >> >> I suspect the problem is lame Olympus firmware. Let us know what happens. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Wayne Harridge wrote: >> >>> I've got a 1GB CF card which I can format in my PC card reader and fill with >>> files - no problem. When I put the card in my E-330 or E-510 and attempt to >>> format it there, the screen comes up with "CARD ERROR !". If I format the >>> card in the PC and put it in either camera I get "Card Full". >>> >>> Any idea how I can get it to work ? >>> >>> ...Wayne >>> >>> Wayne Harridge >>> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:20:31 2009 Received: (qmail 21317 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:20:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:20:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D799E18304 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1119FE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A443610002 for ; 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Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:27:21 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200903312207.n2VM7rO2028892@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> <49D2A8A6.8090006@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D2A8A6.8090006@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:27:12 +1100 Message-ID: <000101c9b2c5$2fd8d250$8f8a76f0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmyWVQgBrU0vUJeTMi25gkCu4ASewAaqFAg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:27:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d35db140517927319144 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Norcutt [] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2009 10:35 AM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour > > I just tried this myself using a 1GB CF card on WinXP. The default > format chosen by Windows was FAT16. That's what I would have expected. > It was showing FAT32 as an option but NTFS was not shown as a format > option for this device. That's not surprising either for a small flash > card. NTFS was specifically designed to minimize seek times on > rotating > disks by placing the directory structure at the middle of the data > area. > It's a B-tree system and has lots of formatting structural overhead > which is probably a bit much for a small, electronic "disk". Tried this myself with the same result > > I then allowed XP to actually do a full format (quick format was not > the > default). I didn't time it but the formatting time was quite > noticeable. The output device was a USB2 driven multi-card > reader/writer. After formatting, the directory display, as expected, > showed an empty "disk". Yep, same here. >From here down the E-510 doesn't play with this particular card. I think I'll just ditch this card, no point wasting any more time on it. > > I then put the card into the Mynolta A1 which did nothing until I asked > to see an image. At that point it immediately reported "no images". I > then took a shot with the camera which worked fine. After removing the > card and sticking it into the computer I could see that, before > actually > taking the shot, the camera had created the directory structure that > would normally be found after an in-camera format. The image could be > displayed on the computer as expected. Afterwards, I formatted the > card > in the camara which proceeded much more quickly than in the computer. > That may well have indicated a quick format. Or, maybe just a "smart" > format. Maybe it doesn't go beyond the data extent indicated by the > directory. I just made that up but consider it possible. > > So, in all of this testing there was only one surprise and that was > rather mild. I expected the camera to complain when I tried to take a > shot and it discovered that its expected directory structure wasn't on > the card. It just did the logical thing. Create the directory > structure before stashing the image. > > If anything, my Mynolta behaves a bit better and smarter than I > expected. I can't say why Oly doesn't behave the same way. Too bad > you > don't have another non-Oly camera to try it out elsewhere. > Yeah, the only other alternatives use SD or Smartmedia, oh, and the Kodak DCS-330 which has a PCMCIA slot and can use a CF with an adapter. ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:31:10 2009 Received: (qmail 11988 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:31:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:31:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FA5E182ED for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C11E2412F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078AF19E163 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:31:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1876019DCAF for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:30:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27521 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 12:30:57 -0000 Message-ID: <49D35E81.3000500@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:30:57 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <421DF14B39454F34AF41C0293B60EB96@your9ya3hf92n3> <49D1F6C6.3070408@blueyonder.co.uk> <8F4EA5FE-27E4-495C-8C57-7EB0F68B3659@people.net.au> <49D28F4D.30606@blueyonder.co.uk> <4326C360-69DB-4806-9D3F-40032CED8DE1@people.net.au> <49D2AD2B.8070603@chucknorcutt.com> <717CB203-1F2D-4598-B5EA-8829AE89F94B@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <717CB203-1F2D-4598-B5EA-8829AE89F94B@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:31:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d35e8e229791869477228 The key is the position of the mirror. Since contrast measurement is done with the sensor the mirror must be up and any mechanical shutter must be open... live view. Phase detection is done with a beam splitter that passes light through the main mirror and then bounces it off a small secondary underneath to a sensor in the floor of the mirror box. Very similar to the way OM's with TTL-OTF measure exposure when the mirror is down. Mirror down, shutter closed = normal shooting and phase detect only. Mirror up, shutter open = live view and contrast measurement only. As EVF's and contrast measurement improve I think the SLR and its mirror will go the way of the dodo bird. The future will be in designs like micro 4/3. Whether micro 4/3 itself will be good enough I don't know. But I believe it's coming eventually. Too many cost and functional benefits for it not to. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Thanks for that - the reason i asked is that on the press releases an > specs., previous models have stated explicitly that Contrast > Detection AF is available in LiveView - the E-450 does not, just the > Contrast Detection AF Mode is available. It struck me that it may be > possible to enable it in regular shooting where appropriate, but I > can't find confirmation. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/04/2009, at 10:54 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Contrast measurement is implemented entirely within the sensor and is >> used on point and shoots and focusing in live view with the mirror up >> (and shutter open, of course) Phase detection is used in SLRs and >> DSLRs >> when not in live view. Phase detection uses a beam splitter to >> form and >> compare two images. Phase detection can tell if an out-of-focus image >> is either back or front focused and start driving the lens immediately >> in the right direction to achieve focus. It's faster than conrast >> measurement which may have to hunt a bit to get started. But, while >> slower, contrast measurement is potentially more accurate. >> >> "Shutter open" above assumes there is an actual mechanical shutter >> that >> needs to be opened. That's not necessarily true. There may only >> be an >> electronic shutter which, again, is implemented within the electronics >> of the sensor. Or there may be both mechanical and electronic >> shutters >> as in my Mynolta A1. >> >> See the nitty-gritty in this Wiki article >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Andrew Fildes wrote: >>> Indeed. But they are sticking with 'small'. >>> It appears to me that Contrast Detection AF has been used only in >>> Live View so far but is now an available mode for normal shooting. >>> Have I got that right? Anyone know the advantage? >>> Andrew Fildes >>> afildes@people.net.au >>> >>> >>> >>> On 01/04/2009, at 8:46 AM, Donald wrote: >>> >>>>> Is the 420 Contrast Detection AF - I'll have to go check. That's >>>>> developed for the Micro 4/3rds system. >>>>> I did expect them to get IS into it though - using the reduced size >>>>> IS module and circuit board from the 620. >>>>> Andrew Fildes >>>>> afildes@people.net.au >>>>> >>>> Yes, that would have been nice. At the entry level it kinda makes >>>> sense, no? >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:34:30 2009 Received: (qmail 12605 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:34:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DA3E182ED for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAF8E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A6119E25A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:34:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5AE19E235 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:34:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28968 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 12:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 31/03/2009: love on the shore of Lac Liman X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:34:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d35f5660017350615338 Pairing up just like the geese in the background. Chuck Norcutt Nathan wrote: > My meetings ended, I went for a walk around Geneva yesterday > afternoon. Spring was in the air, a bit at least. > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#503150227_kinSv-O-LB > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:38:30 2009 Received: (qmail 19870 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:38:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE25DE182FE for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74F5E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CEC361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE273610008 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18147 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2009 12:38:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:38:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <86E8F9AB-3CBE-406A-A05B-22D8A6C01B63@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:38:17 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:38:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36046124341470116606 Forty years since I've been in Loughborough, drunk, depressed and somehow, this brought it all back. It looks like it was a lot of er...fun. Yeah. Did like the pink hats though - as if someone was making an effort to enjoy themselves and...didn't quite manage it. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 11:20 PM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; > lots of my > usual preoccupations: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > Tom > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:39:18 2009 Received: (qmail 27430 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:39:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:39:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDF4E182E7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF288E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1F13610008 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAA33610007 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.244]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c5so2224698rvf.6 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.86.4 with SMTP id o4mr4019240rvl.172.1238589511533; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 20:38:31 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 24c73dc29e007515 Message-ID: <60f983080904010538g628fe25bg62f9e16f2e6a8ce3@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:39:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36076321777350615338 Nice shots. I like 2667.jpg :-) --- Michael 2009/4/1 Tom Fenwick > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; lots of > my > usual preoccupations: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > Tom > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:41:31 2009 Received: (qmail 25351 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:41:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:41:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21715E182F1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335B0E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2645A3610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:41:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783203610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:41:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.86]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHF00C2A9WJZHNM@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D360EA.80303@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:41:14 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090331152223.CHS26775@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> In-reply-to: <20090331152223.CHS26775@ms12.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Subject: Re: [OM] 300/4.5 tripod collar fits 65-116 auto tube? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:41:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d360fb224111823421471 Yes, I still stock them. They are listed HERE: http://www.zuiko.com/index_016.htm 4th item after 8mm fisheye front element. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Lawrence Woods wrote: > Yes, they are the same collar. I don't know if John has any > left in stock, but Camtech (www.zuiko.com) used to sell the > collars separately. I didn't see them on the web site just > now. > > ----- Larry Woods > lmwoods@rcn.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:49:40 2009 Received: (qmail 11899 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:49:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C8FE182F2 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8080CE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665BA19E2BE for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D2319E292 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:49:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so1929338yxn.80 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:49:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.207.14 with SMTP id e14mr6387769ang.139.1238590172439; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:49:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:49:32 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904010549j6bdfbe70m8a0c6c1246f2edb6@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:49:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d362e4290681499373980 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Moose wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> >> Good timing! =A0Thanks Chuck. >> >> I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both fill= ed on my Optiplex 620. =A0I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250= GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. >> >> This device is looking attractive for backing up: >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16817121046 >> > > I don't know about that one. At least Chuck and I, and I seem to recall > someone else here, are using this model. > > > eSATA drives don't hot swap on my Vista. I need to ask for a disk rescan. >> Can be used with either USB or eSATA. =A0Anybody try one? >> > > I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can > be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a > bit faster than my 500GB drives. > Thanks Moose. I do recall your several messages about eSATA and liked that as an option, along with USB (in case USB tasks my patience when the time comes). Right now I use USB to backup to a MyBook and it's all right, as I usually walk away from the PC for a few hours and don't think about it. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:50:40 2009 Received: (qmail 28428 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:50:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7589AE182FB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A2AE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7614C19E2D8 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:50:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09FC19E2D4 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:50:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6022 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 12:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 12:50:32 -0000 Message-ID: <49D36318.7090805@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:50:32 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49CD528D.8080704@chucknorcutt.com> <59D8EB86-3FDC-4624-91C4-9BC0613F40FD@mailcan.com> <160FF9EF-084C-4658-A03B-F40BFBF82E7A@threeshoes.net> <49D13C39.40402@gmail.com> <49D16CE0.9080902@chucknorcutt.com> <000101c9b1e9$dc1834c0$94489e40$@com.au> <49D200B2.6050301@chucknorcutt.com> <49D23576.4010704@verizon.net> <49D35B9D.5090302@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49D35B9D.5090302@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:50:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3632036062046811720 Actually, it's just the opposite. When the computer formats the card there are no files of any type installed although there is a small amount of descriptive data that you normally cannot see. When the camera formats the card it should do exactly as the computer does but, in addition, may add some folders that are meaningful only to the specific brand of camera and may or may not be compatible with different models from the same manufacturer. The camera may also add additional folders during shooting if required. For example, my 5D numbers image files from 0001-9999. I have the camera set for continuous incrementing. If it should hit 9999 and need to rollover back to 0001 it will create another folder to contain the second sequence. On the Canon it's also possible to create your own folders and specify which folder is to be used. I suspect that most other cameras can do the same. Chuck Norcutt John Hermanson wrote: > I'd always thought that a computer format puts files on the card that > the camera won't recognize, and may make the card unusable. There's > just no reason to format a camera card in a computer. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Rand E wrote: >> could this be an issue of formatting the card in NTFS vs FAT(32) ? I >> have several external devices that don't like NTFS formatting. >> Rand E >> >> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> Have you tried formatting the card in the camera after getting the "card >>> full" error? >>> >>> If that doesn't work go back and reformat the card making sure that you >>> do *not* use the "quick format" option. >>> >>> I suspect the problem is lame Olympus firmware. Let us know what happens. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Wayne Harridge wrote: >>> >>>> I've got a 1GB CF card which I can format in my PC card reader and fill with >>>> files - no problem. When I put the card in my E-330 or E-510 and attempt to >>>> format it there, the screen comes up with "CARD ERROR !". If I format the >>>> card in the PC and put it in either camera I get "Card Full". >>>> >>>> Any idea how I can get it to work ? >>>> >>>> ...Wayne >>>> >>>> Wayne Harridge >>>> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:51:51 2009 Received: (qmail 14033 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:51:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:51:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08304E182E7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CA6E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134B319E2DD for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:51:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361AB19E2D8 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:51:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19851 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2009 12:51:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:51:38 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D35E81.3000500@chucknorcutt.com> References: <421DF14B39454F34AF41C0293B60EB96@your9ya3hf92n3> <49D1F6C6.3070408@blueyonder.co.uk> <8F4EA5FE-27E4-495C-8C57-7EB0F68B3659@people.net.au> <49D28F4D.30606@blueyonder.co.uk> <4326C360-69DB-4806-9D3F-40032CED8DE1@people.net.au> <49D2AD2B.8070603@chucknorcutt.com> <717CB203-1F2D-4598-B5EA-8829AE89F94B@people.net.au> <49D35E81.3000500@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <59C9A3CE-5228-4D07-AAFD-2C916A4CD0B7@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:51:42 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:51:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36367269385368819438 I was shooting with a Nikon P90 this week - 26-624mm, EVF and the shutter lag is horrible. The finder isn't too bad though. However, trying to shoot 600mm with the LCD is impossible. Trying to shoot a football game was hopeless as I could never get the critical moment - we're talking 0.2-0.4sec lag if you prefocus! It does have a continuous mode I haven't tried yet that claims to start taking images before you press the button - for some reason, that claim really,really bothers me. Twilight zone mode. Of course, it would help if I'd managed to get a sharp image out of it at all - in any conditions, at any settings. Sigh. The future, if it's EVF, is a worry. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/04/2009, at 11:30 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > As EVF's and contrast measurement improve I think the SLR and its > mirror > will go the way of the dodo bird. The future will be in designs like > micro 4/3. Whether micro 4/3 itself will be good enough I don't know. > But I believe it's coming eventually. Too many cost and functional > benefits for it not to. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:52:20 2009 Received: (qmail 19927 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:52:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:52:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEA8E18309 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD17E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B869E19E2E7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611F819E2D8 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c37so7909anc.35 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:52:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr6261925and.134.1238590320525; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:52:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D350D8.9000909@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> <49D350D8.9000909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:52:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904010552j1c2f06b8i4f9fcb32225380ea@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:52:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3638446751869477228 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I not only use the Thermaltake BlacX but just bought a second one for a > backup should the first one fail and also the ability to copy from one > external drive to another. =A0I bought the first one from Amazon and the > second from Newegg since, at the time (2 weeks ago), it was selling for > $34.99 with free shipping. =A0Today's price is $42.99 with free shipping. > =A0The KingWin is cheaper at $34.99 but doesn't offer free shipping. > Probably a wash > > Whatever you get check it out soon. =A0If you read the newegg reviews on > the Thermaltake you'll find a couple DOA's and premature failures. =A0But > that's over 175 reviews and didn't keep me from buying the second one. Okeydoke. Maybe I'll try to KingWin to provide some comparative data to the community. :) Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:54:52 2009 Received: (qmail 682 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:54:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:54:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4898E182E2 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39FDE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0373610007 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CEE3610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8051 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 12:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:54:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3641c86871257536491 Ya gotta love the juxtaposition of 2688. :-) Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; lots of my > usual preoccupations: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:55:34 2009 Received: (qmail 17284 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:55:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:55:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFEAE182FA for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637AAE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523FF19E308 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:55:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E19719E2E1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so711124fge.13 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:55:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.78.13 with SMTP id a13mr1338208fgb.10.1238590529230; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:55:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080904010538g628fe25bg62f9e16f2e6a8ce3@mail.gmail.com> References: <60f983080904010538g628fe25bg62f9e16f2e6a8ce3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:55:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:55:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36446256461702588592 Thankyou both for having a look. I forgot to mention that I used the 35/2 Zuiko all day. Tom 2009/4/1 Michael Wong > Nice shots. > > I like 2667.jpg :-) > > > --- > Michael > > > > 2009/4/1 Tom Fenwick > > > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; lots of > > my > > usual preoccupations: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > > > Tom > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 14:57:33 2009 Received: (qmail 14868 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 12:57:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 12:57:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1384E182E3 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB067E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94D619E306 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AA419E2E1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:57:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9301 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 12:57:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 14:57:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d364bd84037927319144 That's one whopping capacitor! Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > Perhaps something like this instead: > = > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v221/n5183/abs/221852a0.html > = > = > ...Wayne > = > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > = > -----Original Message----- > From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [] = > Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:26 PM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Ear= th > Hour > = > Nah, > it's about taking care of what happens when the wind increases over = > what the wind turbines can handle. Today we go from maximun effect to = > zero in a very short time and that is not to good for the grid. Our = > system gives a more gentle decrease in energy. > = > / Johan > = > 31 mar 2009 kl. 22.51 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > = >> Sound like it may well require the world's supply of lithium. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:05:23 2009 Received: (qmail 22606 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:05:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B730CE18313 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734A2E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6540B361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:05:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5D63610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:05:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rtomcala@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([173.67.40.169]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHF00ATGB09MK11@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D36678.9020202@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:04:56 -0400 From: Rand E User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:05:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36693232391993019900 I use this one (Thermaltake) and have used it for several months now. I am very pleased with it. With it, I can use all the smaller drives that have been removed from my CPU case due to obsolescence (ie smaller capacity) . I have never had any issues with it. Rand E Moose wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: > >> Good timing! Thanks Chuck. >> >> I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both filled on my Optiplex 620. I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250 GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. >> >> This device is looking attractive for backing up: >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121046 >> >> > > I don't know about that one. At least Chuck and I, and I seem to recall > someone else here, are using this model. > > > eSATA drives don't hot swap on my Vista. I need to ask for a disk rescan. > >> Can be used with either USB or eSATA. Anybody try one? >> >> > > I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can > be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a > bit faster than my 500GB drives. > > > Moose > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:07:20 2009 Received: (qmail 22299 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:07:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A1FE18314 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADFFE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2586D3610004 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:07:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36708113123675314703 I have to ask whether you meant 2686 or 2689, I think the comment could apply to either :-) Tom 2009/4/1 Chuck Norcutt > Ya gotta love the juxtaposition of 2688. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Tom Fenwick wrote: > > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; lots of > my > > usual preoccupations: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > > > Tom > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:19:25 2009 Received: (qmail 20124 invoked by uid 0); 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:19:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d369dd253705368819438 Anyone see this one yet :) =A0 =A0 http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=3D2/6868&pq-locale=3De= n_US&_requestid=3D6364 =A0 Bob = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:24:09 2009 Received: (qmail 28461 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:24:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:24:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5764E18313 for ; 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Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:24:02 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lp0Q8-0006cw-G9 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <49D36AFA.8080900@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:24:10 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:24:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36af9311591946193717 Tom Fenwick wrote: > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; lots of my > usual preoccupations: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > Tom Bloody scruff! ;-) D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:24:37 2009 Received: (qmail 29978 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:24:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:24:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1CBE1830A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A77E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB2F19E38E for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:24:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36b15103801499373980 Moose, thanks for posting the speed of your new SATA drives. The sustained rate of the new HD is much faster than my old ones. I just purchased a new generation Seagate 500GB SATA as my PS cache it is very faster but I think I still need to upgrate my boot dirve (which is an old 120MB Hitachi) to remove the bottle neck of my system. For backup I'm still using 2.5" 250MB USB 2.0 drives, I don't have much data to backup everyweek so speed is not that important. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" >> > > I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can > be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a > bit faster than my 500GB drives. > > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:28:26 2009 Received: (qmail 21823 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:28:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:28:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9D0E18305 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0375E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9474319E3D8 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:28:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E59B19E3CA for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:28:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27241 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 13:28:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 13:28:16 -0000 Message-ID: <49D36BEF.3000108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:28:15 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <421DF14B39454F34AF41C0293B60EB96@your9ya3hf92n3> <49D1F6C6.3070408@blueyonder.co.uk> <8F4EA5FE-27E4-495C-8C57-7EB0F68B3659@people.net.au> <49D28F4D.30606@blueyonder.co.uk> <4326C360-69DB-4806-9D3F-40032CED8DE1@people.net.au> <49D2AD2B.8070603@chucknorcutt.com> <717CB203-1F2D-4598-B5EA-8829AE89F94B@people.net.au> <49D35E81.3000500@chucknorcutt.com> <59C9A3CE-5228-4D07-AAFD-2C916A4CD0B7@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <59C9A3CE-5228-4D07-AAFD-2C916A4CD0B7@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-450 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:28:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36bfa224711993019900 I didn't say the EVF future is tomorrow. Give it another 3-5 years. Sensors with electronic shutters can continuously take images at, say, 30 frames/second and just recycle them through a buffer. The image you capture is the last one in the buffer at the time you press the shutter button. The camera already took the shot. You just froze it in place. The shutter lag is a combination of focusing and exposure measurement delay. If you prefocus you may still have exposure measurement delay. Try shooting in manual mode. You probably can't do it at 624mm equivalent but at less extreme focal lengths you can probably get away with small apertures and pseudo hyperfocal or zone focusing methods. At f/8 and prefocused to 20 meters you should have DOF from about 12-75 meters. Prefocusing to 12 meters should give DOF from about 9-21 meters. 7 meters should give you a range from about 5.5-10 meters. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > I was shooting with a Nikon P90 this week - 26-624mm, EVF and the > shutter lag is horrible. The finder isn't too bad though. However, > trying to shoot 600mm with the LCD is impossible. Trying to shoot a > football game was hopeless as I could never get the critical moment - > we're talking 0.2-0.4sec lag if you prefocus! > It does have a continuous mode I haven't tried yet that claims to > start taking images before you press the button - for some reason, > that claim really,really bothers me. Twilight zone mode. > Of course, it would help if I'd managed to get a sharp image out of > it at all - in any conditions, at any settings. > Sigh. > The future, if it's EVF, is a worry. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/04/2009, at 11:30 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> As EVF's and contrast measurement improve I think the SLR and its >> mirror >> will go the way of the dodo bird. The future will be in designs like >> micro 4/3. Whether micro 4/3 itself will be good enough I don't know. >> But I believe it's coming eventually. Too many cost and functional >> benefits for it not to. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:30:36 2009 Received: (qmail 32325 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:30:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:30:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406F0E182EA for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4B0E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9BE3610007 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEE53610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Lp0WU-0000sx-Ie for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:30:30 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lp0WU-0008IO-6x for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:30:30 +0100 Message-ID: <49D36C84.4070303@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:30:44 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:30:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36c7c310381234514069 LostKase wrote: > Anyone see this one yet :) > > > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale=en_US&_requestid=6364 > > Bob > > > Haw, haw! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:32:58 2009 Received: (qmail 32517 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:32:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443B3E182F5 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0023E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EB63610010 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351813610008 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30633 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 13:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:32:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36d0a6901470116606 That's surprising. The Thermaltake BlacX's internal interface is SATA. I would have expected many of your older drives to be IDE and EIDE which would also require a separate power connection. Maybe your "old" drives aren't so old? Chuck Norcutt Rand E wrote: > I use this one (Thermaltake) and have used it for several months now. I > am very pleased with it. With it, I can use all the smaller drives that > have been removed from my CPU case due to obsolescence (ie smaller > capacity) . I have never had any issues with it. > Rand E > > Moose wrote: >> Joel Wilcox wrote: >> >>> Good timing! Thanks Chuck. >>> >>> I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both filled on my Optiplex 620. I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250 GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. >>> >>> This device is looking attractive for backing up: >>> >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121046 >>> >>> >> I don't know about that one. At least Chuck and I, and I seem to recall >> someone else here, are using this model. >> >> >> eSATA drives don't hot swap on my Vista. I need to ask for a disk rescan. >> >>> Can be used with either USB or eSATA. Anybody try one? >>> >>> >> I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can >> be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a >> bit faster than my 500GB drives. >> >> >> Moose >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:36:34 2009 Received: (qmail 25108 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:36:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:36:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72BFE18314 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40159E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE9D19E440 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F3419E444 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:36:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 672 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 13:36:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:36:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36de2169331035110158 Oops! 2688 was a typo (or more likely a read error without glasses) I meant 2686. And you're right about 2689 as well. I didn't read the box on the first pass. Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > I have to ask whether you meant 2686 or 2689, I think the comment could > apply to either :-) > > Tom > > 2009/4/1 Chuck Norcutt > >> Ya gotta love the juxtaposition of 2688. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>> I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; lots of >> my >>> usual preoccupations: >>> >>> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough >>> >>> Tom >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:37:37 2009 Received: (qmail 5111 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:37:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:37:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C1EE18305 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBD3E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879633610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357CA3610017 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id F4AC4185K5 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:37:29 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:36:35 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49D36C84.4070303@blueyonder.co.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] [OT] We are Borg Thread-Index: AcmyzhBhhZLx6iImSu6g/eX4OJYEngAAIttA From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2009 13:37:29.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[007F0AB0:01C9B2CF] Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:37:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36e21160962336821329 LostKase wrote: > Anyone see this one yet :) > > > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale= > en_US&_requestid=6364 > > Bob My wife, who wears a prosthesis, has had thoughts along a similar vein, only having the camera installed in place of her prosthesis...... 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It is April 1st. :-) Chuck Norcutt LostKase wrote: > Anyone see this one yet :) > > > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale=en_US&_requestid=6364 > > Bob > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:43:37 2009 Received: (qmail 31467 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:43:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:43:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEECE18306 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F403E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607AA361000D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5683610007 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:43:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rtomcala@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([173.67.40.169]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHF002OQCSHCGJ5@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:43:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D36F80.6000008@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:43:28 -0400 From: Rand E User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> <49D36678.9020202@verizon.net> <49D36D03.6060109@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <49D36D03.6060109@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:43:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d36f89312301234514069 Old, as in size, displaced by bigger. But, yes, all are SATA Chuck Norcutt wrote: > That's surprising. The Thermaltake BlacX's internal interface is SATA. > I would have expected many of your older drives to be IDE and EIDE > which would also require a separate power connection. Maybe your "old" > drives aren't so old? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Rand E wrote: > >> I use this one (Thermaltake) and have used it for several months now. I >> am very pleased with it. With it, I can use all the smaller drives that >> have been removed from my CPU case due to obsolescence (ie smaller >> capacity) . I have never had any issues with it. >> Rand E >> >> Moose wrote: >> >>> Joel Wilcox wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Good timing! Thanks Chuck. >>>> >>>> I'd thought I had another bay, but I only have two and they're both filled on my Optiplex 620. I guess I'm going to have to retire one of my 250 GB drives to swap in the 1.5 TB. >>>> >>>> This device is looking attractive for backing up: >>>> >>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121046 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I don't know about that one. At least Chuck and I, and I seem to recall >>> someone else here, are using this model. >>> >>> >>> eSATA drives don't hot swap on my Vista. I need to ask for a disk rescan. >>> >>> >>>> Can be used with either USB or eSATA. Anybody try one? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I posted some performance data on mine to convince C.H. that eSATA can >>> be much faster than USB 2.0. The 1.5TB drives are quite speedy, quiet a >>> bit faster than my 500GB drives. >>> >>> >>> Moose >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:51:52 2009 Received: (qmail 29456 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:51:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A371E182EE for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60623E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F87119E4EB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7495C19E4D5 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp0r2-00069s-Gw for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:51:44 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49D36415.7010603@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: <0DF72A74CE9F4C83ACAC60F9895344BF@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmyystBp3JABv6fTeuuFM2c/N78dwABiJGg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 31/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.94/9189/Tue Mar 31 22:37:49 2009, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:51:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3717811057350615338 As it could to 2655 ;-) Piers -----Original Message----- From: Tom Fenwick [mailto:super.wide@gmail.com] Sent: 01 April 2009 14:07 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough I have to ask whether you meant 2686 or 2689, I think the comment could apply to either :-) Tom 2009/4/1 Chuck Norcutt > Ya gotta love the juxtaposition of 2688. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Tom Fenwick wrote: > > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; > > lots of > my > > usual preoccupations: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > > > Tom > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 15:53:15 2009 Received: (qmail 23417 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 13:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 13:53:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0C1E1830D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:53:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39404E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2523610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EECB3610007 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:53:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from b.painless.aaisp.net.uk (b.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 06:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by b.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp0sO-0007E8-LN for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:53:08 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49D36E8C.8050703@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:52:59 +0100 Message-ID: <63637B0D3F4843FFB022655D8CF549D4@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49D36E8C.8050703@chucknorcutt.com> Thread-Index: Acmyz0rR5Mj9oJUUTvyG2lzZoT+6jQAAck1w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 31/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.94/9189/Tue Mar 31 22:37:49 2009, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 15:53:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d371cb318871257536491 Quite so, hence the version number of the device is 4.1! Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] Sent: 01 April 2009 14:39 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg Hmm. It is April 1st. :-) Chuck Norcutt LostKase wrote: > Anyone see this one yet :) > > > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale= > en_US&_requestid=6364 > > Bob > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 16:16:49 2009 Received: (qmail 31316 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 14:16:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 14:16:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FDAE182EE for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7448E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A5519E40A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2A719DC43 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:16:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27532 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 14:16:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 14:16:42 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3774A.8000207@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:16:42 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49D36E8C.8050703@chucknorcutt.com> <63637B0D3F4843FFB022655D8CF549D4@your9ya3hf92n3> In-Reply-To: <63637B0D3F4843FFB022655D8CF549D4@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 16:16:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d37751260938512572685 Gotta look closely! :-) Chuck Norcutt Piers Hemy wrote: > Quite so, hence the version number of the device is 4.1! > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Sent: 01 April 2009 14:39 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg > > Hmm. It is April 1st. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > LostKase wrote: >> Anyone see this one yet :) >> >> >> http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale= >> en_US&_requestid=6364 >> >> Bob >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 16:24:19 2009 Received: (qmail 32409 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 14:24:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 14:24:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7ED4E18318 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA70E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE4B19E179 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:24:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6477519E5E0 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:24:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so67416fxm.14 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.115.143 with SMTP id i15mr2808387bkq.103.1238595851792; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:24:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e44a34a9368055a3 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 16:24:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d37913239951073733319 Yeah, I want one of those! I especially like the face-recognition feature that ties in with your BFF file on Facebook. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 17:08:56 2009 Received: (qmail 9700 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 15:08:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 15:08:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EEAE1831A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2D6E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12A19E70B for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA1219E729 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B86314098 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF44031408C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D38380.9090405@interisland.net> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:08:48 -0700 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1OlympusList X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 17:08:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d38388231422070262475 > The earth's rotation will slow down from all the drag. That's backwards Chuck. The earth already is slowing down from friction. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 18:25:28 2009 Received: (qmail 26661 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 16:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 16:25:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361E1E182E5 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF25E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CAE361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2947C3610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (r.burnette@insightbb.com whitelisted) Received: from mxsf03.insightbb.com (mxsf03.insightbb.com [74.128.0.64]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:25:19 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,307,1235970000"; d="scan'208";a="622763976" Received: from unknown (HELO asav01.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2009 12:25:18 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvEFADwy00msH/l7/2dsb2JhbAAIgk5FgwG7FI9xgi2BTgY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,307,1235970000"; d="scan'208";a="208322011" Received: from unknown (HELO mta1.manage.insightcom.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by asav01.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2009 12:25:18 -0400 Received: from insightbb.com ([172.31.249.123]) by mta1.manage.insightcom.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KHF00B6VKA68871@mta1.manage.insightcom.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.31.249.212] (Forwarded-For: [172.31.249.212]) by msb0.manage.insightcom.com (mshttpd); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:25:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:25:18 -0400 From: Robert Burnette In-reply-to: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit) Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 18:25:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d39578168711993019900 IIRC, I think that I read somewhere that the Panasonic 4/3rds cameras can r= ead and reformat a CF card in this condition. Supposedly, after the Panason= ic reformat you can then reformat in your Olympus E-510.=A0Any camera deale= rs near enough to give this a try? Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Harridge=A0 Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 18:39 Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour > = > > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > = > > Your cameras hate PCs of course. > > Never ever format on the pooter, mate. > = > Well it was formatted in the camera (E-510 I think) when I first = > got the card, it was only after it gave me "card error" that I = > started looking at it in the PC. > = > I sort of expected that if the card can work ok in the PC then = > it is not a faulty card and that the camera should be able to = > format the card regardless of how it was previously formatted. > = > ...Wayne -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 18:40:07 2009 Received: (qmail 23086 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 16:40:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 16:40:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0F6E18314 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94975E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F2119E9C7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496919EA0C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5520 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 16:39:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 16:39:57 -0000 Message-ID: <49D398DC.7090103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:39:56 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D38380.9090405@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <49D38380.9090405@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 18:40:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d398e739557927319144 That's tidal friction (land as well as water). This is windmill friction. :-) Chuck Norcutt Mike wrote: >> The earth's rotation will slow down from all the drag. > > That's backwards Chuck. The earth already is slowing down from friction. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 19:01:00 2009 Received: (qmail 22085 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 17:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 17:00:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D3AE18201 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C43E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CEB19EA78 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:00:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4FA19EA84 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 196.red-83-52-20.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.20.196]:49167 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lp3nw-0007KW-FA (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:00:44 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49D31FC4.4000905@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:00:44 +0200 References: <32B48000-6B31-4E01-92AC-DC9DEBDB68F7@frozenlight.eu> <49D31FC4.4000905@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/03/2009: Didier in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 19:01:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d39dcc156391946193717 Yes it was. I love the Niederdorf :-) Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Apr 1, 2009, at 10:03 AM, SwissPace wrote: > was it bier halle wolf by any chance, had a few nice evenings in there > myself better that the oktoberfest now which has been spoilt by drunks > who can't handle the drink as opposed to those that also can't but > do it > in a nice way. :-) > > Nathan wrote: >> good conversation with fellow LUGger Didier, at a traditional Swiss >> beer hall with large beer and even larger Cordon Bleu. Once again, it >> >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 19:22:42 2009 Received: (qmail 25688 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 17:22:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 17:22:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C409E182F3 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEBDE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9323610010 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:22:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F63361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from gerard.telenet-ops.be (gerard.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.48]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([94.224.139.19]) by gerard.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id aHNY1b0090RJCnS0HHNYJf; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:22:34 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D398DC.7090103@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D38380.9090405@interisland.net> <49D398DC.7090103@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <505B4299-FC8A-435E-9E07-514AECF4C383@gmail.com> From: Iwert Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:22:31 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] FS: some OM, pen, contax items and others X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 19:22:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3a2e22589347015869 Hello everybody, A bit of spring cleaning: 1. E-330, boxed, all original paperwork etc: 222,- euro 2. OM 35-70 f3.5-4.5 zoom, Boxed, as new, fantastic compact little zoom, with 100n softcase: 65,- euro 3. OM 50mm f1.4, silvernose, a bit rough outside, optics & mechanics very good: 40,- euro 4. OM2n black with original ostrich black leatherette from John Hermanson, boxed, manuals, very good condition with very slight brassing: 120,- euro 5. OM2n black, very fine machine, fantastic bodywork, works perfect in auto, manual is confusing 1/500 and 1/1000 sec for a very slow speed, so a very low price: 50,- euro 6. Winder 2, I have two of them: 20 euro each. 7. Pen FT 42mm f1.2: front cap, no back cap, very fine, no fungus, optically + mechanical very good, will fit micro4/3:) : 200 euro 8. Contax 85mm f1.4 AE, optically + mechanically very good: 365 euro 9. Contax - eos AF confirm adapter: 17,5 euro 10. Contax - 4/3 adapter: 17,5 euro 11 Pen D2, has been serviced recently, very good working condition, modified to 1.5 volt batteries + calibrated meter: 125,- euro Pictures @: No pictures of the Pen D2 or 42mm f1.4 yet, can make some if interested! Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 19:32:22 2009 Received: (qmail 19848 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 17:32:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 17:32:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56154E182FF for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE57E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B76319EB71 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:32:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79E919EB41 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toip5.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.88]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090401173215.VMDX1809.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip5.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:32:15 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmUCAIdA00lMRy30/2dsb2JhbAAIlHK8GoN7Bg Received: from bas4-toronto46-1279733236.dsl.bell.ca (HELO [192.168.51.152]) ([76.71.45.244]) by toip5.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2009 13:40:04 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:32:14 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/03/2009: Didier in Zurich Thread-Index: Acmy78ugCjnutB7jEd6U2AAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/03/2009: Didier in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 19:32:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3a52695971234514069 Indeed. The Bodega Espanola, and D=F6ner im Fladenbrot from 1001, and racle= tte outdoors by the Adler (I think it was), and Le D=E9zaley, and... Plus the tremendous variety of street entertainment and music when the weather starts getting a bit warmer. Michael On 4/1/09 1:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > ... I love the Niederdorf :-) > = > Cheers, > Nathan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 19:45:06 2009 Received: (qmail 7149 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 17:45:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 17:45:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA825E18301 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB84E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2C719EB2C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6D319E345 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so242566fga.13 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr6367084fga.73.1238607898785; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.36.84.124? ([82.132.136.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm1882738fge.24.2009.04.01.10.44.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <0728CA36-3D8D-40E9-9891-D580410ABA3C@gmail.com> From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49D36AFA.8080900@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:44:36 +0100 References: <49D36AFA.8080900@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 19:45:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3a822317161591313764 When in Rome, and all that... And you should have seen me after I decided that since there were two of those hats a three dimensional memento was in order :-) Tom Sent from my iPhone On 1 Apr 2009, at 14:24, Donald wrote: > Tom Fenwick wrote: >> I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; >> lots of my >> usual preoccupations: >> >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough >> >> Tom > > Bloody scruff! > > ;-) > > D. > > -- > I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 20:01:00 2009 Received: (qmail 14468 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D07E182FC for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F317E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E494F19EC6A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CCC19EC74 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2614 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2009 18:00:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 18:00:50 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3ABD2.1040701@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:00:50 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090331-0, 03/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 20:01:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3abdc159362336821329 I'm not sure that "this condition" is actually known. First I would verify the integrity of the disk if not already done. After full formatting on the computer (which should be checking for bad sectors) copy enough image files to the card to fill or nearly fill it up. Then run a file compare program between the source and the card to see if all the bits match. Lacking a third party comparison utility with a reasonable interface one can use the "comp" command in the command prompt window. Alternatively just load the image files into your browser. If the card passes all these tests then lame Oly firmware is a given. To try to recover I would suggest reformatting the card (A) in the PC again and then, using another card freshly formatted in the camera (B), right click on the drive indicated for card B and copy the entire contents of B to card A. That should copy all of the camera created contents on B to the recalcitrant card A. It should include any files and their attributes and possibly hidden files. If this doesn't work throw away the card and buy a different brand of camera. If you only have one external reader/writer you can place the card A there and use the camera as the reader for card B. Chuck Norcutt Robert Burnette wrote: > IIRC, I think that I read somewhere that the Panasonic 4/3rds cameras > can read and reformat a CF card in this condition. Supposedly, after > the Panasonic reformat you can then reformat in your Olympus E-510. > Any camera dealers near enough to give this a try? > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Harridge Date: Tuesday, > March 31, 2009 18:39 Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour > >>> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: >>> >>> Your cameras hate PCs of course. Never ever format on the pooter, >>> mate. >> Well it was formatted in the camera (E-510 I think) when I first >> got the card, it was only after it gave me "card error" that I >> started looking at it in the PC. >> >> I sort of expected that if the card can work ok in the PC then it >> is not a faulty card and that the camera should be able to format >> the card regardless of how it was previously formatted. >> >> ...Wayne > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 21:03:20 2009 Received: (qmail 13953 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 19:03:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 19:03:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC49FE182F9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6438E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA6B3610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:03:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A10C3610010 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:03:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:03:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHF00BTARL4YQ20@asmtp026.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <49D364B5.5060307@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:03:06 +0200 References: <20090331130450.35A8EBC1@resin14.mta.everyone.net> <49D2823B.3050203@chucknorcutt.com> <142CA4C6-40D8-4256-A389-F03A87087C10@mac.com> <000001c9b2bb$b38dc150$1aa943f0$@com.au> <49D364B5.5060307@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 21:03:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3ba78177391823421471 That's also kind of cool! ABB, or rather ASEA used to do this rotating VAR compensations, but we = only do static VAR compensation (SVC) now, static in the meaning of no = rotating parts. I mostly work with control and protection software around series = capacitors (SC), but been at a few SVCs too. We're right now building = 765 kV SC and lots of I-can-kill-you Amperes. / Johan 1 apr 2009 kl. 14.57 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > That's one whopping capacitor! > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Wayne Harridge wrote: >> Perhaps something like this instead: >> >> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v221/n5183/abs/221852a0.html >> >> >> ...Wayne >> >> Wayne Harridge >> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Johan Malmstr=F6m [] >> Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:26 PM >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey = >> was: Earth >> Hour >> >> Nah, >> it's about taking care of what happens when the wind increases over >> what the wind turbines can handle. Today we go from maximun effect to >> zero in a very short time and that is not to good for the grid. Our >> system gives a more gentle decrease in energy. >> >> / Johan >> >> 31 mar 2009 kl. 22.51 skrev Chuck Norcutt: >> >>> Sound like it may well require the world's supply of lithium. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >> >> > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 21:19:43 2009 Received: (qmail 23271 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 19:19:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 19:19:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C5EE182EB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5160E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36D019EE99 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF5119EE8A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23994 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 19:19:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.197.83) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 19:19:35 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3BE42.4060302@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:19:30 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D20336.1080602@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0903312004j17159d2fhf6087bce6c6e4595@mail.gmail.com> <49D2DD24.60003@gmail.com> <49D350D8.9000909@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D350D8.9000909@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 21:19:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3be4e143262046811720 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I not only use the Thermaltake BlacX but just bought a second one for a backup should the first one fail and also the ability to copy from one external drive to another. I bought the first one from Amazon and the > second from Newegg since, at the time (2 weeks ago), it was selling for $34.99 with free shipping. Today's price is $42.99 with free shipping. > The KingWin is cheaper at $34.99 but doesn't offer free shipping. Probably a wash > I'm pretty sure both were the same price last night when I posted the link to the Blacx. Looks like NewEgg is another player in the moving prices game. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 21:53:55 2009 Received: (qmail 27894 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 19:53:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 19:53:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39536E182E7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65FEE2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CF119EF27 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B3119ECE5 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:53:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHF00JPMTXKTY50@asmtp023.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:53:46 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 21:53:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3c653157401234514069 Here's Ida again, some weeks ago when we still had lots of snow but it was warmth in the air. http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/ida/ida_2009_002.html OM-4Ti, Ilford Pan F, Zuiko 85/2 or 100/2.8 Enjoy! / Johan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 22:03:21 2009 Received: (qmail 3880 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 20:03:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:03:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B70E18301 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48E8E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA95A3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEC23610004 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28445 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 20:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.189.224) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 20:03:11 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3C87D.1050800@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:03:09 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090331130450.35A8EBC1@resin14.mta.everyone.net> <49D2823B.3050203@chucknorcutt.com> <142CA4C6-40D8-4256-A389-F03A87087C10@mac.com> <000001c9b2bb$b38dc150$1aa943f0$@com.au> <49D364B5.5060307@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D364B5.5060307@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 22:03:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3c88922711234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > That's one whopping capacitor! > Storage capacity 218,000+ times larger. Peak delivery power capacity considerably larger, although considerably smaller as a % of total capacity. Takes more than a second to spin those turbines up, though. 1,600 MW for 22 hrs is 126,720,000 MJ, I think, compared to 580 MJ for the kinetic storage unit. Been There Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 22:05:47 2009 Received: (qmail 26790 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 20:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:05:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F109E182F7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E72E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D993610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8C6361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:05:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30358 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 20:05:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.189.224) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 20:05:41 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3C912.5080409@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:05:39 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200903312239.n2VMdAul010152@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 22:05:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3c91b63881585427447 Robert Burnette wrote: > IIRC, I think that I read somewhere that the Panasonic 4/3rds cameras can read and reformat a CF card in this condition. Supposedly, after the Panasonic reformat you can then reformat in your Olympus E-510. Any camera dealers near enough to give this a try? > Will Oly never learn? The solution for XD cards that often worked was to format in a Fuji camera. The Oly would then be able to format them to its liking. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 22:16:22 2009 Received: (qmail 14979 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 20:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:16:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB91BE1830C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D1AE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D193610020 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1C93610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts40.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.97]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toip7.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.124]) by tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090401201607.VJRQ1608.tomts40-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip7.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:16:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBACdk00lMRy30/2dsb2JhbAAI0C+DfQY Received: from bas4-toronto46-1279733236.dsl.bell.ca (HELO [192.168.51.152]) ([76.71.45.244]) by toip7.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2009 16:17:14 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:16:06 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] storing energy in reservoirs [was - Wyoming ...] Thread-Index: AcmzBq/07oAUrB75Ed6U2AAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <49D3C87D.1050800@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] storing energy in reservoirs [was - Wyoming ...] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 22:16:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3cb96286901470116606 IIRC this is done in Switzerland too, and there had been some controversy because the Swiss were buying cheaper power from neighbouring countries overnight and selling power back to them during the day at higher rates. Michael On 4/1/09 4:03 PM, Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> That's one whopping capacitor! >> > > Storage capacity 218,000+ times larger. > > > Peak delivery power capacity considerably larger, although considerably > smaller as a % of total capacity. Takes more than a second to spin those > turbines up, though. > > 1,600 MW for 22 hrs is 126,720,000 MJ, I think, compared to 580 MJ for > the kinetic storage unit. > > Been There Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 22:25:10 2009 Received: (qmail 7706 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 20:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:25:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFDBE182FF for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD851E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855DC19F094 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41FD19F07E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:25:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DC0CAA32 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:48:13 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2D3B9353-2DC3-4EBD-800E-2B2844DCA003@people.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:24:27 +0100 References: <49CD528D.8080704@chucknorcutt.com> <59D8EB86-3FDC-4624-91C4-9BC0613F40FD@mailcan.com> <160FF9EF-084C-4658-A03B-F40BFBF82E7A@threeshoes.net> <2D3B9353-2DC3-4EBD-800E-2B2844DCA003@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 22:25:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3cda647203675314703 About time, Andrew. Give us a shout. Chris On 31 Mar 2009, at 21:44, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Or further afield - I'll be over this 'summer'... > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 31/03/2009, at 8:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> It was 2005, I think: too long ago. We might have to wait for a >> friend from across the Pond to get us going into another meet ... or >> will we? > > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 22:31:23 2009 Received: (qmail 9787 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 20:31:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:31:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295EFE1831C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F205E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8F4361001D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:31:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850BC3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12059 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2009 20:31:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:31:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:31:09 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 22:31:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3cf1b104002336821329 Who'd have thort Kodak had a sense of humour? Ah, but (sigh) she's not exactly Seven of Nine, hey? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/04/2009, at 12:19 AM, LostKase wrote: > > Anyone see this one yet :) > > > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq- > locale=en_US&_requestid=6364 > > Bob > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 22:33:14 2009 Received: (qmail 28437 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 20:33:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:33:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7371E182E1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1C3E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198953610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:33:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407DB361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12187 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2009 20:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 20:33:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D36AFA.8080900@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <49D36AFA.8080900@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-Id: <631A3DE1-E14C-4F30-A817-476FDCBDBC7C@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:33:02 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 22:33:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3cf8a92241838542571 He dressed to blend in. It's not as if he was going anywhere sophisticated, like Bulgaria. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Donald wrote: >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough >> >> Tom > > Bloody scruff! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:08:23 2009 Received: (qmail 6837 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:08:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:08:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2952E18301 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F3EE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FF419F1BA for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F29719F14F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHF00H97XDNCY70@asmtp027.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:08:12 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] [Photo] Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:08:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3d7c7209511946193717 Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my editing on the sky. Anyway: OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY Enjoy! / Johan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:13:26 2009 Received: (qmail 25326 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:13:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:13:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03845E182FF for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A0DE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1663019F1C9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:13:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9DD19F1B4 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n31LDIZG029684 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:13:18 +1100 Message-Id: <200904012113.n31LDIZG029684@mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:13:18 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:13:18 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1383528548==" Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:13:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3d8f6207262046811720 --===============1383528548== Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Yes, very impressive, I had a guided tour from one of the designers about 30 years ago. Unfortunately it was decommissioned in the mid 80's ...Wayne > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > That's one whopping capacitor! > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Wayne Harridge wrote: > > Perhaps something like this instead: > > > > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v221/n5183/abs/221852a0.html > > > > > > ...Wayne > > > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Johan Malmström [] > > Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:26 PM > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Subject: Re: [OM] Wyoming was - RF and other radiation + odyssey was: > Earth > > Hour > > > > Nah, > > it's about taking care of what happens when the wind increases over > > what the wind turbines can handle. Today we go from maximun effect to > > > zero in a very short time and that is not to good for the grid. Our > > system gives a more gentle decrease in energy. > > > > / Johan > > > > 31 mar 2009 kl. 22.51 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > > > >> Sound like it may well require the world's supply of lithium. > >> > >> Chuck Norcutt > >> > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com --===============1383528548== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ --===============1383528548==-- From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:23:18 2009 Received: (qmail 2336 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:23:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:23:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800EAE18311 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8A8E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3319F220 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875AC19F1FB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:23:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n31LN9hS004674 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:23:09 +1100 Message-Id: <200904012123.n31LN9hS004674@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:23:09 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:23:09 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] Strange CF Card behaviour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0430616404==" Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:23:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3db4670051234514069 --===============0430616404== Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary > Robert Burnette <> wrote: > > IIRC, I think that I read somewhere that the Panasonic 4/3rds cameras > can read and reformat a CF card in this condition. Supposedly, after the > Panasonic reformat you can then reformat in your Olympus E-510. Any > camera dealers near enough to give this a try? > Thanks for the suggestion Robert, but I think I've already spent more time on this than justified ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com --===============0430616404== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ --===============0430616404==-- From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:30:26 2009 Received: (qmail 30738 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:30:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636F6E182F0 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A683EE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959CB19F270 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2EB19F26F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50127 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp80q-000510-9n for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:30:20 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:30:18 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] [Photo] Snow Thread-Index: AcmzEQ2OS+GxWh8EEd6vXQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:30:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3dcf2257551073733319 That's pretty. I agree on the sky though, I can see it too. -- = Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/1/09 5:08 PM, "Johan Malmstr=F6m" wrote: > Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my > editing on the sky. > = > Anyway: > OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY > > = > Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:33:13 2009 Received: (qmail 28062 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:33:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DB1E18305 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7960EE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B483610018 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341153610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (proud_texan63@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.130]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 79107 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Apr 2009 21:33:05 -0000 Message-ID: <260877.76507.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RE0.7g8VM1mOiQ5GZCCV9dtPXg6Hy7yBiJu2Z2yMqzX7elsPHw2uR7z8XRA0wsZSuaMzu7liQjIbOH2A4r4KYxDSZF.QKLcjcLw1XJ3eNE3OLsyaDGXPUw3dMTJRqFD.yrmtf3GSe0O7qpN7lIM7TrQpwL.eUuDFxjXKVrLDIX.8BNbAEPI.RCd2kUxG9R0xuaQO8yzvWHg4Yf6D0ElfAyCPnLJAX4N_iExzEKea2uua2Ehw8GIYHeCoJKbqzf7Pbc62_RK4oKMyVfMMZApOQhMnWrW8VVg8dGP6D48T.EGz1Qdbb1Nm9ssZ3qmBqbfryrthW7HMf98_hG9DVTJkzg.Vi.913A-- Received: from [71.97.21.245] by web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:33:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:33:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Smith To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:33:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3dd9970631946193717 =A0=A0 Wow, very nice, I like it. Jerry Life is not a race, it is a ride. Enjoy it!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/proud-texan/ --- On Wed, 4/1/09, Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: From: Johan Malmstr=F6m Subject: [OM] [Photo] Snow To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 4:08 PM Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my=A0 = editing on the sky. Anyway: OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:35:33 2009 Received: (qmail 230 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:35:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:35:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0265E182F9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF9EE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B6F3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:35:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456583610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so244482bwz.14 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.71.82 with SMTP id g18mr2931200bkj.120.1238621725218; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49CD528D.8080704@chucknorcutt.com> <59D8EB86-3FDC-4624-91C4-9BC0613F40FD@mailcan.com> <160FF9EF-084C-4658-A03B-F40BFBF82E7A@threeshoes.net> <2D3B9353-2DC3-4EBD-800E-2B2844DCA003@people.net.au> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:35:25 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9378de7a41cc2a4a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:35:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3de25103001234514069 > > About time, Andrew. Give us a shout. > Statute of limitations must have run out. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:38:24 2009 Received: (qmail 14348 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:38:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:38:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B8EE182F9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175B3E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E2F19F283 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6576719F270 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8393 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 21:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.193.205) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 21:38:16 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3DEC6.408@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:38:14 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:38:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3ded066741470116606 Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Here's Ida again, some weeks ago when we still had lots of snow but it = > was warmth in the air. > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/ida/ida_2009_002.html > > OM-4Ti, Ilford Pan F, Zuiko 85/2 or 100/2.8 > = Cute! In the interests of full disclosure, the rug rat images I posted a few = days ago had various food and other substances removed from faces in = processing. Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:41:07 2009 Received: (qmail 26749 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:41:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:41:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71183E182EC for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA99E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDE719F286 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759B19F28E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10063 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 21:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.193.205) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 21:41:02 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3DF6B.1090905@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:40:59 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49CD528D.8080704@chucknorcutt.com> <59D8EB86-3FDC-4624-91C4-9BC0613F40FD@mailcan.com> <160FF9EF-084C-4658-A03B-F40BFBF82E7A@threeshoes.net> <2D3B9353-2DC3-4EBD-800E-2B2844DCA003@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:41:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3df7397881234514069 Ken Norton wrote: >> About time, Andrew. Give us a shout. > Statute of limitations must have run out. > There's a statute that eliminates Andrew's limitations??? How does that work? Where do I go to get one for myself. I'd also vote for one for ... A. Perfect Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:41:59 2009 Received: (qmail 13692 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:41:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:41:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E066E182EB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB13E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0538219F2B7 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2E219F2B4 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n31LfpgU021233 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:41:52 +1100 Message-Id: <200904012141.n31LfpgU021233@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:41:51 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:41:51 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] storing energy in reservoirs [was - Wyoming ...] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:41:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3dfa731237927319144 > Michael Collins wrote: > > IIRC this is done in Switzerland too, and there had been some > controversy > because the Swiss were buying cheaper power from neighbouring countries > overnight and selling power back to them during the day at higher rates. > The same principle that they use in their banks ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:45:08 2009 Received: (qmail 20160 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:45:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5E9E18201 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D681E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8502C3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1EB3610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so252412fxm.14 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:45:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.36.17 with SMTP id j17mr1052434fgj.27.1238622301396; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:45:01 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:45:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3e0649691529615919 Andrew, You have inspired me to waste some time putting together some meditations on Bulgarian style, and a couple of clues as to its effect on mine. I would be surprised if there isn't something for everyone in here. I think I have shown two of the images here before, but I can't resist including them: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style Tom 2009/4/1 Andrew Fildes > He dressed to blend in. It's not as if he was going anywhere > sophisticated, like Bulgaria. > Andrew Fildes > > > > > On 02/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Donald wrote: > > >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > >> > >> Tom > > > > Bloody scruff! > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 1 23:55:19 2009 Received: (qmail 1306 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 21:55:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 21:55:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA31E182EB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC7FE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CA5361001F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:55:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6E5361001C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n31LtB7I025628 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:55:11 +1100 Message-Id: <200904012155.n31LtB7I025628@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:55:11 +1100 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:55:11 +1100 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 1 23:55:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3e2c7121022070262475 > Moose <> wrote: > > In the interests of full disclosure, the rug rat images I posted a few > days ago had various food and other substances removed from faces in > processing. > There must be an opportunity for some enterprising camera manufacturer to include this feature "in camera" (along with face recognition, art filters, etc.). ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 00:00:12 2009 Received: (qmail 24532 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 22:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 22:00:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5836E18318 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECD4E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF413610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46C13648003 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:00:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22615 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 22:00:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.182.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 22:00:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3E3E2.9050009@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:00:02 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] storing energy in reservoirs [was - Wyoming ...] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 00:00:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3e3ec101151869477228 Michael Collins wrote: > IIRC this is done in Switzerland too, and there had been some controversy because the Swiss were buying cheaper power from neighbouring countries overnight and selling power back to them during the day at higher rates. > Huh? If building the storage facility were free, I could see how some might complain. As it is, such things are very expensive to build and have significant operating costs. What's wrong with making a return on the investment? Has European socialism reached such a point? Or are power rates politically determined more than economically, so that the Swiss are, in effect, meddling in the politics of their neighbors? The economics of the Raccoon Mt. facility are pretty straightforward. It was much more cost effective to build a time shifting storage facility than full time capacity that would be underused much of the time. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 00:02:58 2009 Received: (qmail 19829 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 22:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 22:02:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3029EE18277 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4F2E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41003610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A1E3610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24682 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 22:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.182.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 22:02:46 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3E483.30400@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:02:43 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904012155.n31LtB7I025628@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200904012155.n31LtB7I025628@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 00:02:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3e491201041838542571 Wayne Harridge wrote: >> Moose <> wrote: >> >> In the interests of full disclosure, the rug rat images I posted a few days ago had various food and other substances removed from faces in processing. > There must be an opportunity for some enterprising camera manufacturer to include this feature "in camera" (along with face recognition, art filters, etc.). > Sony Cyber-Snot Buster? Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 00:07:00 2009 Received: (qmail 18077 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 22:06:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 22:06:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47507E182F0 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3CEE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB381361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2D33610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27305 invoked by uid 502); 1 Apr 2009 22:06:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.182.193) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Apr 2009 22:06:54 -0000 Message-ID: <49D3E57B.90809@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:06:51 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <839379.31079.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] We are Borg X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 00:07:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3e584291921838542571 LostKase wrote: > Anyone see this one yet :) > > > http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=2/6868&pq-locale=en_US&_requestid=6364 > First rate April Fool piece. Still waiting for the bluetooth goggles with heads-up image display as adjunct to LCD on digicams, though. Should be way more useful than EVFs. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 00:27:15 2009 Received: (qmail 10173 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 22:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 22:27:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D59E182E6 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FF1E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E7D19F3F2 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:27:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B59519F400 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Lp8tg-0001P7-R1 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:27:00 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lp8tg-0001rb-Dd for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:27:00 +0100 Message-ID: <49D3EA45.2060905@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:27:17 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D36AFA.8080900@blueyonder.co.uk> <631A3DE1-E14C-4F30-A817-476FDCBDBC7C@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <631A3DE1-E14C-4F30-A817-476FDCBDBC7C@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 00:27:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3ea43275111946193717 Andrew Fildes wrote: > He dressed to blend in. It's not as if he was going anywhere > sophisticated, like Bulgaria. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > Ha! I've been to LuffBruff, mate, I know where you're coming from there! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 01:49:44 2009 Received: (qmail 32358 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 23:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 23:49:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C876DE182E6 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E91E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9574D3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685383610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f170.google.com (mail-ew0-f170.google.com [209.85.219.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so300135ewy.14 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.21.194 with SMTP id r44mr2833310wer.80.1238629772823; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-160-215.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.160.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm968095gve.15.2009.04.01.16.49.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D3FD7E.3070105@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:49:18 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49BA2CD9.4030203@gmail.com> <49BA3290.1090003@gmail.com> <49CF4223.90307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49CF4223.90307@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 50/1.8 in the dark [was 35/2 in the dark] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 01:49:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3fd9893122336821329 Moose wrote: > ... As promised, I've added eight more munchkin images. I'm pretty > pleased overall with getting some nice portraits. > > ... This one is even better than the one of Liam that I liked: I like that it catches more than just the subject. That is, the out-of-focus bits behind her are not just smooth bokeh that isolate the subject, but are recognisable elements (a composition in itself) that enhance and support the subject with their "distraction". It all feels very "warm". Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 01:49:49 2009 Received: (qmail 15071 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 2009 23:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Apr 2009 23:49:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA2AE1830D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76990E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 699193610018 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE13A3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.150]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so64519eyb.26 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.11.213 with SMTP id 63mr2826872wex.176.1238629777160; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-160-215.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.160.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm999808gvf.1.2009.04.01.16.49.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D3FD82.2050406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:49:22 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 01:49:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d3fd9d166811529615919 Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Here's Ida again, some weeks ago when we still had lots of snow but it = > was warmth in the air. > = > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/ida/ida_2009_002.html > = > OM-4Ti, Ilford Pan F, Zuiko 85/2 or 100/2.8 That's a very lovely photo, Johan, even with the fluid leakage (though = mum might be okay with a bit of photoshopping there ;) ). Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 04:04:57 2009 Received: (qmail 32348 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 02:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 02:04:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A235E18315 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E1AE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F4119F65F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:04:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F13B19F65E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:04:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2372 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 02:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2009 02:04:45 -0000 Message-ID: <49D41D3D.4010203@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:04:45 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 04:04:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d41d4922861702588592 Ha, ha! When she is in high school and behaving poorly some day just = threaten to show her boyfriend the picture of Ida with the runny nose. :-) Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Here's Ida again, some weeks ago when we still had lots of snow but it = > was warmth in the air. > = > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/ida/ida_2009_002.html > = > OM-4Ti, Ilford Pan F, Zuiko 85/2 or 100/2.8 > = > Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 04:15:26 2009 Received: (qmail 1162 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 02:15:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 02:15:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42339E182F9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA11E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529103610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:15:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36FF361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7010 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 02:15:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 04:15:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d41fbe7561585427447 Looks pretty but I'm glad I'm not there in that snow. Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my = > editing on the sky. > = > Anyway: > OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY > > = > Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 04:19:54 2009 Received: (qmail 22381 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 02:19:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 02:19:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26F6E182EB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DB8E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E759B19F66B for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:19:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545D319F682 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:19:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8647 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 02:19:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 04:19:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d420ca199582046811720 Oooh! 6959... I like. Some others too. Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > Andrew, > > You have inspired me to waste some time putting together some meditations on > Bulgarian style, and a couple of clues as to its effect on mine. I would be > surprised if there isn't something for everyone in here. I think I have > shown two of the images here before, but I can't resist including them: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style > > Tom > > 2009/4/1 Andrew Fildes > >> He dressed to blend in. It's not as if he was going anywhere >> sophisticated, like Bulgaria. >> Andrew Fildes >> >> >> >> >> On 02/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Donald wrote: >> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough >>>> >>>> Tom >>> Bloody scruff! >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 04:22:28 2009 Received: (qmail 9729 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 02:22:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 02:22:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4A7E182E3 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD0CE24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213A719F68A for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F27D19F682 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:22:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9801 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 02:22:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2009 02:22:22 -0000 Message-ID: <49D4215D.4090506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:22:21 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49BA2CD9.4030203@gmail.com> <49BA3290.1090003@gmail.com> <49CF4223.90307@gmail.com> <49D3FD7E.3070105@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D3FD7E.3070105@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 50/1.8 in the dark [was 35/2 in the dark] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 04:22:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4216435181234514069 Yeah. Wish I'd said that. :-) Chuck Norcutt Marc Lawrence wrote: > Moose wrote: >> ... As promised, I've added eight more munchkin images. I'm pretty >> pleased overall with getting some nice portraits. >> >> ... > > This one is even better than the one of Liam that I liked: > > > > I like that it catches more than just the subject. That is, the > out-of-focus bits behind her are not just smooth bokeh that isolate the > subject, but are recognisable elements (a composition in itself) that > enhance and support the subject with their "distraction". It all feels > very "warm". > > Cheers, > Marc > Noosa Heads, Oz > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 04:42:39 2009 Received: (qmail 20991 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 02:42:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 02:42:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0C1E18311 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591F6E24129 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B90E3610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D15F3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 19:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n322gTYr021084 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:42:29 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:42:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 04:42:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4261f52591823421471 A very nice scene, good capture! C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Johan Malmstr=F6m" > Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my > editing on the sky. > > Anyway: > OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY > > > Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 07:35:00 2009 Received: (qmail 10996 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 05:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 05:34:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D28E18312 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3F4E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961DE19F85F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:34:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E5619F853 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:34:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617D8463954 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:55:29 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:34:47 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 07:35:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d44e84227921838542571 Thanks, Tom. My favourite is your self-portrait in the lift. There = might be something sinister about your companion (:-)) but for the = faux-casual placement of your camera. And it's over 40 years since I was in Loughborough: it was always = colder there than anywhere else in the UK, or perhaps it was my = girlfriend's (fianc=E9e, actually) shared house which had no central = heating and was v.v.v. cold in her room. Since she was a student (at = the art college) and I an impecunious youth, there seemed nothing we = could do to warm up except ... :-) Chris On 1 Apr 2009, at 13:20, Tom Fenwick wrote: > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; = > lots of my > usual preoccupations: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 07:36:17 2009 Received: (qmail 28173 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 05:36:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 05:36:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5BFE18304 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1863E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36AA3610014 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D7D3610012 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4670C463954 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:56:53 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <3DCB8C5E-4566-4CBE-B4DE-EBAFD4A98EAD@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <73C51905-FBB6-4552-94B3-34C90FFF4AC5@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:36:11 +0100 References: <73C51905-FBB6-4552-94B3-34C90FFF4AC5@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 31/03/2009: love on the shore of Lac Liman X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 07:36:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d44ed1114231234514069 Nicely caught, Nathan. He might at least have taken off his rucksack! Chris On 1 Apr 2009, at 05:07, Nathan wrote: > My meetings ended, I went for a walk around Geneva yesterday > afternoon. Spring was in the air, a bit at least. > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#503150227_kinSv-O-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 07:44:43 2009 Received: (qmail 26448 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 05:44:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 05:44:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039F4E18302 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E44E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE43361000C for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A38E3610002 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AFC2E3B0AB for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J9OhZTRmIYyI for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1B82E3B092 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:44:31 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 07:44:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d450cb72803675314703 > From: Ken Norton > > Jan the Ham wrote: >But there are many orders of magnitude difference > between them! > > True, but they are also cumulative. Fair enough. A microwave and a cell phone are both intermittent use, = but wifi is 24/7/365. > As I sit here at my desk three and a half hours past the end of the = > normal > business day when there are only a couple dozen people in the building > working, my Fluke spectrum analyzer at my desk is measuring a noise = > floor of > between -61 and -52 dB. Yikes! Perhaps you can build a screen room? :-) Question about units: is this actually dBm, in other words, dB = referenced to a milliwatt? Or is it dB=B5, referenced to a microwatt? A decibel is just a fancy ratio. It is dimensionless. Unless you refer = to some reference, dB by itself doesn't say how much energy is being = measured. > Wifi is between the two. You get no more than milliwatts exposure from >> wifi, even when sitting on your lap -- roughly 1,000 times less = >> energy >> than that emitted by a cell phone. And yet, some people who use cell >> phones with abandon claim wifi somehow hurts them. > > LOL, maybe YOUR WiFi equipment. :) I take mine right up to the = > legal > limit. I don't have the FCC code in front of me, but if you're talking = "legal," I believe you're limited to 500mW. > (That's my story and I'm sticking with it--ahem, don't mind the > +18dB antennas...). Think "jelly sandwich." The more you spread it, the thinner it gets, = and the more you bunch it up, the thicker it gets. So-called "gain" antennas provide apparent gain by changing the = radiation pattern from that of an ideal uniform omnidirectional = radiator. So if you boost the radiated power 18 dB in one direction, = you're cutting it by that much in other directions. So just don't = point that thing at your head, and you've actually *reduced* your = exposure by using a gain antenna. > You should see what a room full of Blackberrys will do to the RF = > space! I believe it. Doesn't mean I care to experience it! :::: Magic: using envisioned intent and directed action to select your = desired future path from among the infinite ones available. :::: :::: Jan Steinman, Communication Steward, EcoReality: http://www.EcoReality= .org = :::: -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 08:09:50 2009 Received: (qmail 22416 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 06:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 06:09:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31E4E18310 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB721E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01EC19FCF5 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D6F19FCED for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:09:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.244]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so385206rvf.50 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:09:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.198.9 with SMTP id a9mr4403869rvq.7.1238652581737; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:09:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:09:41 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 827b5b7dc7d72e66 Message-ID: <60f983080904012309l12442b4bxbc5b6f9eeb67d701@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 08:09:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d456ae75811234514069 Nice scene & nice shot. --- Michael 2009/4/2 Johan Malmstr=F6m > Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my > editing on the sky. > > Anyway: > OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY > > > Enjoy! / Johan > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 08:11:34 2009 Received: (qmail 4930 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 06:11:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 06:11:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CCAE182F9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745F0E2412E for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6E119FC6D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:11:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E146A19FD66 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:11:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.250]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so385936rvf.50 for ; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:11:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.10.1 with SMTP id n1mr3980949rvi.76.1238652687451; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:11:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> References: <42CF9E6C-5B5E-4B01-98AD-8322847D04B6@mac.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:27 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 973d03dc73dc7cbe Message-ID: <60f983080904012311w74599ce0vf00e6e1bbfc7c56e@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Another one of Ida. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 08:11:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d45716173258512572685 A lovely girl, a lovely shot. --- Michael 2009/4/2 Johan Malmstr=F6m > Here's Ida again, some weeks ago when we still had lots of snow but it > was warmth in the air. > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/ida/ida_2009_002.html > > OM-4Ti, Ilford Pan F, Zuiko 85/2 or 100/2.8 > > Enjoy! / Johan > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 09:09:59 2009 Received: (qmail 23964 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 07:09:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 07:09:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DEFE182F2 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9BBE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079B519FFA2 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:09:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9825519F7C4 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:09:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 00:09:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.13] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHG00IRJP8ENG60@asmtp030.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:09:48 +0200 References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 09:09:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d464c71651035110158 It was actually not that much of snow: 2 apr 2009 kl. 04.15 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > Looks pretty but I'm glad I'm not there in that snow. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my >> editing on the sky. >> >> Anyway: >> OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY >> >> >> Enjoy! / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 10:27:23 2009 Received: (qmail 13125 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 08:27:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 08:27:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43576E1830F for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C419E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CB419DD60 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:27:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF0419DD5B for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so323632fga.13 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:27:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr6897907fga.30.1238660834586; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:27:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> References: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:27:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 10:27:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d476eb16991869477228 Thanks, Chris. I must admit that the camera placement was quite instinctive - it was the faux-casual placement of my eyebrows I was concentrating on at the time :-) Tom 2009/4/2 Chris Barker > Thanks, Tom. My favourite is your self-portrait in the lift. There > might be something sinister about your companion (:-)) but for the > faux-casual placement of your camera. > > And it's over 40 years since I was in Loughborough: it was always > colder there than anywhere else in the UK, or perhaps it was my > girlfriend's (fianc=E9e, actually) shared house which had no central > heating and was v.v.v. cold in her room. Since she was a student (at > the art college) and I an impecunious youth, there seemed nothing we > could do to warm up except ... :-) > > Chris > > On 1 Apr 2009, at 13:20, Tom Fenwick wrote: > > > I spent the afternoon in Loughborough on Monday - quite good fun; > > lots of my > > usual preoccupations: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 10:53:44 2009 Received: (qmail 30040 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 08:53:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 08:53:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AE7E18374 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31241E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C2219DDFB for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206D19DDCD for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:53:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so327327fga.13 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:53:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.95.8 with SMTP id s8mr224424fgb.39.1238662414876; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:53:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D4215D.4090506@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49BA2CD9.4030203@gmail.com> <49BA3290.1090003@gmail.com> <49CF4223.90307@gmail.com> <49D3FD7E.3070105@gmail.com> <49D4215D.4090506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:53:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 50/1.8 in the dark [was 35/2 in the dark] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 10:53:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d47d18322931035110158 And me. Might have added something specific about the way the cluster of hands and feet pulls it all together. Tom 2009/4/2 Chuck Norcutt > Yeah. Wish I'd said that. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Marc Lawrence wrote: > > Moose wrote: > >> ... As promised, I've added eight more munchkin images. I'm pretty > >> pleased overall with getting some nice portraits. > >> < > http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=VisitKirsten/2009_02_21 > > > >> ... > > > > This one is even better than the one of Liam that I liked: > > > > < > http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=VisitKirsten/2009_02_21&image=_MG_5422cr.jpg > > > > > > I like that it catches more than just the subject. That is, the > > out-of-focus bits behind her are not just smooth bokeh that isolate the > > subject, but are recognisable elements (a composition in itself) that > > enhance and support the subject with their "distraction". It all feels > > very "warm". > > > > Cheers, > > Marc > > Noosa Heads, Oz > > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 11:50:45 2009 Received: (qmail 10941 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 09:50:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 09:50:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE901E18310 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 02:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8D5E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 02:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B8C3610002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 02:50:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13F0361000C for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 02:50:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 02:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1337 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2009 09:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.142.253) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 09:50:28 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:50:30 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 11:50:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d48a75197937350615338 Love the family group and your mate with the big nose. Surprised to see a bare breast in a poster but then, it's been about as long since I've been in Bulgaria as in Loughborough. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/04/2009, at 8:45 AM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Andrew, > > You have inspired me to waste some time putting together some > meditations on > Bulgarian style, and a couple of clues as to its effect on mine. I > would be > surprised if there isn't something for everyone in here. I think I > have > shown two of the images here before, but I can't resist including > them: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style > > Tom > > 2009/4/1 Andrew Fildes > >> He dressed to blend in. It's not as if he was going anywhere >> sophisticated, like Bulgaria. >> Andrew Fildes >> >> >> >> >> On 02/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Donald wrote: >> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough >>>> >>>> Tom >>> >>> Bloody scruff! >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 12:03:01 2009 Received: (qmail 30219 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 10:03:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 10:03:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBC1E18301 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D0FE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D5D361000C for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:02:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1403610002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:02:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so337155fga.13 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:02:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.86.12 with SMTP id j12mr146599fgb.57.1238666571765; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:02:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> References: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:02:51 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 12:03:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d48d5576963675314703 Glad you picked the group. It took me about 20 minutes to resolve all that anarchy into something coherent. I had had just as much Rakiya as anyone else though, and I knew I could stop once I had that one. Tom 2009/4/2 Andrew Fildes > Love the family group and your mate with the big nose. Surprised to > see a bare breast in a poster but then, it's been about as long since > I've been in Bulgaria as in Loughborough. > Andrew Fildes > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style > > > > Tom > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 12:06:08 2009 Received: (qmail 7001 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 10:06:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 10:06:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C959FE18300 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28EE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD0219DF7A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A2419DF74 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25429 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 10:05:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2009 10:05:59 -0000 Message-ID: <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:05:59 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 12:06:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d48e10116281499373980 You don't understand. My ideal level of snow is 0. Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > It was actually not that much of snow: > > = > 2 apr 2009 kl. 04.15 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > = >> Looks pretty but I'm glad I'm not there in that snow. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >>> Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my >>> editing on the sky. >>> >>> Anyway: >>> OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY >>> >>> >>> Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 12:06:52 2009 Received: (qmail 27578 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 10:06:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 10:06:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABB2E18303 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508ADE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5B319DF7A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5853B19DF74 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so438481fxm.14 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:06:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.33.10 with SMTP id g10mr6968290fgg.47.1238666804919; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:06:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:06:44 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 12:06:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d48e3c125841838542571 PS About the bare breast poster... You may not be aware that in BG a beaver is called a squirrel. That's my most serendipitous truck-driving-into-frame-and-changing-everything shot ever. Tom 2009/4/2 Tom Fenwick > Glad you picked the group. It took me about 20 minutes to resolve all that > anarchy into something coherent. I had had just as much Rakiya as anyone > else though, and I knew I could stop once I had that one. > > Tom > > 2009/4/2 Andrew Fildes > >> Love the family group and your mate with the big nose. Surprised to >> see a bare breast in a poster but then, it's been about as long since >> I've been in Bulgaria as in Loughborough. >> Andrew Fildes >> >> >> > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style >> > >> > Tom >> > >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 12:31:34 2009 Received: (qmail 14103 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 10:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 10:31:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719E9E18308 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04DFE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73C219DFE8 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:31:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFB719DF65 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:31:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.146] (helo=anti-virus03-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LpKCm-0003ZK-AX for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:31:28 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LpKCl-0000dL-RS for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:31:27 +0100 Message-ID: <49D49411.10507@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:31:45 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Grim out there... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 12:31:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d49406224862046811720 While out doing a bit of necessary shopping, I popped into PC World to have a quick look at printers, by way of research regarding my 'need' for a new inkjet. The place didn't exactly have tumbleweed blowing down the aisles, but there must have been twenty staff in there, and me. Worse odds than Custer had... I'm used to getting pounced on in there, but this was something new. I felt like a steak in a lion enclosure, or a naked woman in a barrack-room. I guess it's tough in retail. Some of their prices were actually quite good, especially if you order online. But nobody is buying. As I left, I thought I heard a dog bark, far off... D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 12:46:16 2009 Received: (qmail 13554 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 10:46:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 10:46:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ABBE182EB for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990C9E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7350A19E048 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:46:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0596719DF9A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:46:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.13] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHG00K69Z7KCZ60@asmtp025.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:45:19 +0200 References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] Snow 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 12:46:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d49778326131035110158 Nobodies world is perfect Chuck! The snow around here is turning into mud right now, spring is = indefinitely here this year too. Mud, to the kids at least, have much of the same qualities as snow. I = agree on the fun thing but oh boy mud is not at all clean like snow. Meanwhile remember the fine days 2 apr 2009 kl. 12.05 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > You don't understand. My ideal level of snow is 0. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> It was actually not that much of snow: >> >> >> 2 apr 2009 kl. 04.15 skrev Chuck Norcutt: >> >>> Looks pretty but I'm glad I'm not there in that snow. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >>>> Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my >>>> editing on the sky. >>>> >>>> Anyway: >>>> OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY >>>> >>>> >>>> Enjoy! / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 13:29:11 2009 Received: (qmail 24171 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 11:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 11:29:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4929EE182E7 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DEAE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDFA34AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AB634AC001 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olympus@thomasclausen.org whitelisted) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aste-genev-bois-153-1-50-22.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr ([81.249.144.22] helo=[192.168.147.106]) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LpL6T-000G8N-VO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:29:02 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.249.144.22 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18EQKnLqggwcsKtaMnYvzl7 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <372D5CA4-B7FB-4A67-8115-71095B6249D1@thomasclausen.org> From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:28:57 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Snow 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 13:29:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4a187162391257536491 On 2Apr , 2009, at 12:45 , Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Nobodies world is perfect Chuck! > The snow around here is turning into mud right now, spring is > indefinitely here this year too. > Mud, to the kids at least, have much of the same qualities as snow. I > agree on the fun thing but oh boy mud is not at all clean like snow. > Something like this: http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/epa1823l.jpg > Meanwhile remember the fine days > > Thomas > > > 2 apr 2009 kl. 12.05 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > >> You don't understand. My ideal level of snow is 0. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >>> It was actually not that much of snow: >>> >>> >>> 2 apr 2009 kl. 04.15 skrev Chuck Norcutt: >>> >>>> Looks pretty but I'm glad I'm not there in that snow. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >>>>> Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can = >>>>> see my >>>>> editing on the sky. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway: >>>>> OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy! / Johan >> -- = >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 13:40:16 2009 Received: (qmail 24270 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 11:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 11:40:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84FABE1830A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D291CE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA08319E1D4 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:40:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829A519DD18 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:40:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (grizzledgeezer@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id abbS1b00B0lTkoCADbgBxM; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:40:11 +0000 Received: from miraclenay7zrg ([71.231.210.19]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id abgA1b00E0Rflnr8QbgA3q; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:40:11 +0000 Message-ID: <153001c9b387$dec48df0$13d2e747@miraclenay7zrg> From: "William Sommerwerck" To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:40:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Subject: Re: [OM] olympus Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 13:40:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4a42016921234514069 > To try to recover I would suggest reformatting the card (A) in the PC > again and then, using another card freshly formatted in the camera > (B), right click on the drive indicated for card B and copy the entire > contents of B to card A. That should copy all of the camera created > contents on B to the recalcitrant card A. It should include any files > and their attributes and possibly hidden files. If this doesn't work > throw away the card and buy a different brand of camera. If you only > have one external reader/writer you can place the card A there and > use the camera as the reader for card B. The CF card in my E-500 has a section it refuses to read on the camera. (Ironically, it contains the single most-important photo I've taken with the camera, an absolutely unreplaceable image. Fortunately, I'd backed it up long ago in several other places.) It /does/ read on my computer's card reader. (Go figure.) I'm not ready to dump everything on the card into backup. So asked Olympus customer service about copying the card's contents, reformatting the card in the camera, then rewriting everything to it. Olympus told me that this will result in an unreadable card, and that they make no software (including the interface software that comes with the camera) that allows this. I was flabbergasted. Anyone know anything about this? It makes no sense. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 13:50:15 2009 Received: (qmail 26313 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 11:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 11:50:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964BFE182EA for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F86E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD2F34AC003 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:50:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A8E34AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:50:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 04:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23776 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2009 11:50:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.163.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 11:50:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> Message-Id: <381BA33B-0918-4753-A4A4-E379CA007FA1@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:50:04 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 13:50:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4a677278751869477228 I thought that might be the case but was too scared to ask! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 02/04/2009, at 9:06 PM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > PS About the bare breast poster... You may not be aware that in BG > a beaver > is called a squirrel. That's my most serendipitous > truck-driving-into-frame-and-changing-everything shot ever. > > Tom > > 2009/4/2 Tom Fenwick > >> Glad you picked the group. It took me about 20 minutes to resolve >> all that >> anarchy into something coherent. I had had just as much Rakiya as >> anyone >> else though, and I knew I could stop once I had that one. >> >> Tom >> >> 2009/4/2 Andrew Fildes >> >>> Love the family group and your mate with the big nose. Surprised to >>> see a bare breast in a poster but then, it's been about as long >>> since >>> I've been in Bulgaria as in Loughborough. >>> Andrew Fildes >>> >>> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 14:35:33 2009 Received: (qmail 20257 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 12:35:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 12:35:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7635E18313 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B149E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAE634AC003 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:35:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708B934AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:35:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13874 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 12:35:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2009 12:35:22 -0000 Message-ID: <49D4B10A.4050709@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:35:22 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D49411.10507@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D49411.10507@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Grim out there... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 14:35:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4b115137051529615919 I went furniture shopping at two stores with my wife last week. It was a week day and I was a bit surprised to see the number of cars parked in front of the stores. More people out shopping than I would have guessed thought I. Not true. My wife and I were at least 50% of the customer population and maybe 100%. The cars obviously belonged to the store staff. In fact, I suspect there were more cars than staff. Perhaps they're paying commuters to park in their lot. :-) Chuck Norcutt Donald wrote: > While out doing a bit of necessary shopping, I popped into PC World to > have a quick look at printers, by way of research regarding my 'need' > for a new inkjet. > > The place didn't exactly have tumbleweed blowing down the aisles, but > there must have been twenty staff in there, and me. Worse odds than > Custer had... > > I'm used to getting pounced on in there, but this was something new. I > felt like a steak in a lion enclosure, or a naked woman in a barrack-room. > > I guess it's tough in retail. Some of their prices were actually quite > good, especially if you order online. But nobody is buying. > > As I left, I thought I heard a dog bark, far off... > > D. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 14:37:08 2009 Received: (qmail 5170 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 12:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 12:37:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D3CE182FD for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEBAE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F17F19E314 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:37:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4840419E324 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14648 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 12:37:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Snow 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 14:37:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4b17486541702588592 Thanks, I enjoyed that. :-) Chuck Norcutt Thomas Heide Clausen wrote: > On 2Apr , 2009, at 12:45 , Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > = >> Nobodies world is perfect Chuck! >> The snow around here is turning into mud right now, spring is >> indefinitely here this year too. >> Mud, to the kids at least, have much of the same qualities as snow. I >> agree on the fun thing but oh boy mud is not at all clean like snow. >> > = > Something like this: > = > http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/epa1823l.jpg > = >> Meanwhile remember the fine days >> >> > = > Thomas -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 14:57:56 2009 Received: (qmail 10947 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 12:57:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 12:57:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF18E182EF for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705DAE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6123334AC004 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:57:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DC834AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:57:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25727 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 12:57:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2009 12:57:49 -0000 Message-ID: <49D4B64C.6010606@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:57:48 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <153001c9b387$dec48df0$13d2e747@miraclenay7zrg> In-Reply-To: <153001c9b387$dec48df0$13d2e747@miraclenay7zrg> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090401-0, 04/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] olympus Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 14:57:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4b654199389347015869 I see no reason at all why this should not work. The computer will be adding only data files to the card and will not be altering the card's formatted structure in any way other than updating the directory entries. I think the answer here is that Oly tech support in this case is less competent than the firmware writers. The only thing that I can think of that would cause the problem you're having with this card is that the spot containing the image or the directory entry pointing to the image does, in fact, have an intermittent read error. The computer (having smarter code) is probably trying multiple times to read the bad spot and is ultimately successful. The Oly firmware probably just gives up on the first failure. Since the camera probably only does a quick format it will not be able to find and mark out any bad sectors. After you finally reformat the card in the camera fill it up right away with pictures, preferably in raw mode. If the camera can't read them all back immediately replace the card (or your camera company) Caveat: My Mynolta A1, when writing raw files, writes a tiny JPEG thumnail (*.thm) so that it doesn't have to read and interpret the raw file for display on the camera. You know this is the case since it only has enough pixels to fill the tiny view screen and it's impossible to magnify the image in raw mode. If the Oly does the same, trying to read and view all the images you just took in raw mode won't really be exercising the card much at all. Even if it stores a small (4MP) JPEG internally (as does the Canon) it still probably doesn't read the whole file but more so than a tiny thumbnail. I was reading an article this morning which pointed out that Microsoft is still collecting royalties on FAT32 code so maybe Oly attempted to roll their own and didn't quite make it. Chuck Norcutt William Sommerwerck wrote: >> To try to recover I would suggest reformatting the card (A) in the PC >> again and then, using another card freshly formatted in the camera >> (B), right click on the drive indicated for card B and copy the entire >> contents of B to card A. That should copy all of the camera created >> contents on B to the recalcitrant card A. It should include any files >> and their attributes and possibly hidden files. If this doesn't work >> throw away the card and buy a different brand of camera. If you only >> have one external reader/writer you can place the card A there and >> use the camera as the reader for card B. > > The CF card in my E-500 has a section it refuses to read on the camera. > (Ironically, it contains the single most-important photo I've taken with the > camera, an absolutely unreplaceable image. Fortunately, I'd backed it up > long ago in several other places.) It /does/ read on my computer's card > reader. (Go figure.) > > I'm not ready to dump everything on the card into backup. So asked Olympus > customer service about copying the card's contents, reformatting the card in > the camera, then rewriting everything to it. > > Olympus told me that this will result in an unreadable card, and that they > make no software (including the interface software that comes with the > camera) that allows this. > > I was flabbergasted. Anyone know anything about this? It makes no sense. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 15:28:28 2009 Received: (qmail 4465 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 13:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 13:28:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD77E182D2 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0DEE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD4134AC008 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3617D34AC005 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 06:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.143] (helo=anti-virus02-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LpMxy-00042e-36 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:28:22 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LpMxx-00082Q-Jt for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:28:21 +0100 Message-ID: <49D4BD88.3060900@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:28:40 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D49411.10507@blueyonder.co.uk> <49D4B10A.4050709@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D4B10A.4050709@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Grim out there... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 15:28:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4bd7c96601234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I went furniture shopping at two stores with my wife last week. It was > a week day and I was a bit surprised to see the number of cars parked in > front of the stores. More people out shopping than I would have guessed > thought I. Not true. My wife and I were at least 50% of the customer > population and maybe 100%. The cars obviously belonged to the store > staff. In fact, I suspect there were more cars than staff. Perhaps > they're paying commuters to park in their lot. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Coincidence. Fiona and I took my mother out shopping for a new suite last week, we outnumbered the staff... weird. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 16:44:10 2009 Received: (qmail 10349 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 14:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 14:44:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A85E18201 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4DAE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2577019E6A6 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:44:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDDC19E599 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so558180fxm.14 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:43:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.51.65 with SMTP id c1mr30688bkg.59.1238683439581; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:43:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:43:59 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6538d3c6fba3e955 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Earth Hour X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 16:44:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4cf3a9511946193717 > > Yikes! Perhaps you can build a screen room? :-) > That's been my thought on more than one occasion. Question about units: is this actually dBm, in other words, dB > referenced to a milliwatt? Or is it dB=B5, referenced to a microwatt? > Sorry, It was assumed dBm. A decibel is just a fancy ratio. It is dimensionless. Unless you refer > to some reference, dB by itself doesn't say how much energy is being > measured. > Agreed. In this case it's a calibrated measurement tool for commercial communications systems. AG -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 17:02:33 2009 Received: (qmail 20848 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 15:02:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 15:02:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11025E18311 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D439E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2608119E72F for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:02:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16A819E72A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C32F462432 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:23:07 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <44D9A3A1-0E4A-43E6-B7E2-48031E8E3DB9@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:02:25 +0100 References: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 17:02:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4d389274271869477228 Well that worked as well: the eyebrows, I mean. Oh, and it's only 34 years since I was last in Loughborough; I'm not as old as I said ... :-) Chris On 2 Apr 2009, at 09:27, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Thanks, Chris. > > I must admit that the camera placement was quite instinctive - it > was the > faux-casual placement of my eyebrows I was concentrating on at the > time :-) > > Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 18:02:22 2009 Received: (qmail 8637 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 16:02:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 16:02:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47783E182F1 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6226E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FCF19E893 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:02:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B00519E7F8 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:02:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LpPMo-0000Ws-IC for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:02:10 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> <44D9A3A1-0E4A-43E6-B7E2-48031E8E3DB9@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:02:07 +0100 Message-ID: <2EDA9574A54F45699CF45A4159800296@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmzpBJPrZTcGh5tQy29EKsVhwBlmwACBccA In-Reply-To: <44D9A3A1-0E4A-43E6-B7E2-48031E8E3DB9@threeshoes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090402-0, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 18:02:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4e18e8931234514069 I was puzzled by the maths, Chris, but you have set me right. You are indeed younger than you thought - but if your memory is so bad already, one wonders how much worse it is going to get. Not that you need to worry, as you won't know any different, of course :-) Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] Sent: 02 April 2009 16:02 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough Well that worked as well: the eyebrows, I mean. Oh, and it's only 34 years since I was last in Loughborough; I'm not as old as I said ... :-) Chris On 2 Apr 2009, at 09:27, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Thanks, Chris. > > I must admit that the camera placement was quite instinctive - it was > the faux-casual placement of my eyebrows I was concentrating on at the > time :-) > > Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 18:51:16 2009 Received: (qmail 14078 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 16:51:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 16:51:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FA3E18316 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7658EE24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0E719E9DA for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:51:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA6719E9D2 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:51:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3C1314087 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2EF31405F for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D4ED06.5090205@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:51:18 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090402-0, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] More Seagate Barracuda X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 18:51:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d4ed04160601234514069 I prefer a separate case for each drive. They are relatively cheap and in actual use the drive goes in the case and stays there until it's upgraded anyway. Besides, swapping out a drive is no more than 5min with a screwdriver. They are easy to store with a small footprint and come with a fan if needed. I have a couple of these: Actual price was less than $25 although Newegg no longer lists them. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 20:12:51 2009 Received: (qmail 2398 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 18:12:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 18:12:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B601E18304 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05527E2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB73F19EC47 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6638719EA87 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:12:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B264B461D30 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:33:22 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <25940461-3E0A-41B6-9CB1-5FA9BE0070FD@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2EDA9574A54F45699CF45A4159800296@your9ya3hf92n3> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:12:40 +0100 References: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> <44D9A3A1-0E4A-43E6-B7E2-48031E8E3DB9@threeshoes.net> <2EDA9574A54F45699CF45A4159800296@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 20:12:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d50023139491234514069 Thanks for paying attention, as always, Piers :-) Clearly I was trying to keep up with Andrew in the "how long I've been around in various places" stakes :-) Chris On 2 Apr 2009, at 17:02, Piers Hemy wrote: > I was puzzled by the maths, Chris, but you have set me right. You are > indeed younger than you thought - but if your memory is so bad > already, one > wonders how much worse it is going to get. Not that you need to > worry, as > you won't know any different, of course :-) > > Piers -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 21:22:31 2009 Received: (qmail 8555 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 19:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 19:22:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DB8E182ED for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4874EE2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8C34AC005 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:22:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF42B34AC001 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.13] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHH00LYHN56LR60@asmtp029.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <428DD131-263A-466D-8ADF-92B4DA513CEA@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <372D5CA4-B7FB-4A67-8115-71095B6249D1@thomasclausen.org> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:22:17 +0200 References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> <372D5CA4-B7FB-4A67-8115-71095B6249D1@thomasclausen.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Snow 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 21:22:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d51077293741234514069 Very funny! / Johan 2 apr 2009 kl. 13.28 skrev Thomas Heide Clausen: > > On 2Apr , 2009, at 12:45 , Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > >> Nobodies world is perfect Chuck! >> The snow around here is turning into mud right now, spring is >> indefinitely here this year too. >> Mud, to the kids at least, have much of the same qualities as snow. I >> agree on the fun thing but oh boy mud is not at all clean like snow. >> > > Something like this: > > http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/epa1823l.jpg > >> Meanwhile remember the fine days >> >> > > Thomas -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 22:04:27 2009 Received: (qmail 17081 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 20:04:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 20:04:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13C1E1830A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01DEE2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EC934AC003 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA2B34AC001 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.2] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHH00LIIP34P970@asmtp029.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:04:17 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 22:04:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d51a4b133122336821329 As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her place. :) http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala Enjoy! / Johan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 22:09:38 2009 Received: (qmail 254 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 20:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 20:09:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF82DE18309 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAE7E2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C18419ED27 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1456919EF8B for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:09:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:09:18 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n32K9Ett017755 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:09:16 GMT Message-ID: <293692F21B134D45854CEF632368619E@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:09:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 22:09:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d51b82107534673671140 Johan, That is a nice image. You did a great job. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Johan Malmstr=F6m" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change > As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) > > Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my > cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one > does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her > place. :) > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html > > OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala > > Enjoy! / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 23:11:24 2009 Received: (qmail 16814 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 21:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 21:11:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE68E182FE for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674D5E2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5936119F0F4 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB9B19F0CB for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (proud_texan63@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.130]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19438 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Apr 2009 21:11:14 -0000 Message-ID: <856143.17907.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2BOGYFgVM1njgWhywCg0OcAqcfRbwa3kPtBK8qEA.yXJUbfQloInn.PdidJJJEkdjUlNeKyehv7z_crvZl0BhrDu1ZQmT5vKkazLPtpC_qz5Y4x.2QvdPnVokq3iavQOv8eXcRiAJyujaPhhswdls3k.PlYUoNI1uFKURJyYAvpXZbtK5HvJiCqsfbJ6iHjs.PjdqC2lKk5HS4tY28S87y4CwoVZwgALLfmXS709ZUjRFp5CoGf73z0H29vYh.oiSZf.PIo.TVyoa9GUgc4YbiA.pHVZVytu0V0a6ZTaS05Q1PjFxB4oOqI04KyMr5a75k2AOeE5cBwOHoLyzwtDgZ1a81Pxxg-- Received: from [71.97.21.245] by web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:11:14 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerry Smith To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 23:11:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d529fc26269347015869 =A0=A0 From here in Texas, hat's a whole lot of snow. I still like it. Jerry Life is not a race, it is a ride. Enjoy it!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/proud-texan/ --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: From: Johan Malmstr=F6m Subject: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 2:09 AM It was actually not that much of snow: 2 apr 2009 kl. 04.15 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > Looks pretty but I'm glad I'm not there in that snow. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> Maybe I should have edited this one a little bit more, I can see my >> editing on the sky. >> >> Anyway: >> OM-2N, Zuiko 200/4 SN, Kodak TMY >> >> >> Enjoy! / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 2 23:23:38 2009 Received: (qmail 26912 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 21:23:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 21:23:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537F5E182F1 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FF4E2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7888134AC003 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:23:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B61D34AC001 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:23:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7891 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2009 21:23:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.163.57) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 21:23:25 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <25940461-3E0A-41B6-9CB1-5FA9BE0070FD@threeshoes.net> References: <0B1107B9-4099-422F-B82E-B4F9E20BAB9D@threeshoes.net> <44D9A3A1-0E4A-43E6-B7E2-48031E8E3DB9@threeshoes.net> <2EDA9574A54F45699CF45A4159800296@your9ya3hf92n3> <25940461-3E0A-41B6-9CB1-5FA9BE0070FD@threeshoes.net> Message-Id: <8E92D8CC-B187-4C74-926C-A3AFEA007EAA@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:23:28 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 2 23:23:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d52cda50931035110158 As if. Hmmm...forty years since I've been in Colchester, or Morrocco... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 03/04/2009, at 5:12 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks for paying attention, as always, Piers :-) > > Clearly I was trying to keep up with Andrew in the "how long I've been > around in various places" stakes :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 01:50:49 2009 Received: (qmail 6576 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2009 23:50:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Apr 2009 23:50:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8441E182F0 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C83E2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7218319F81E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D0719F7EB for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4777 invoked by uid 504); 2 Apr 2009 23:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Apr 2009 23:50:37 -0000 Message-ID: <49D54F4D.4020100@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:50:37 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090402-1, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 01:50:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d54f5971042336821329 Very nice! Where is this? It reminds me a bit of Helsinki harbor. But = my memory may be faulty. I haven't been to Helsinki in almost 25 years. Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) > = > Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my = > cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one = > does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her = > place. :) > = > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html > = > OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala > = > Enjoy! / Johan = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 02:12:41 2009 Received: (qmail 14782 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 00:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 00:12:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A766E182EA for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3315E2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD82B19F86A for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4EB19F863 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cd2.4e5411f5 (37546) for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB027-5bb549d5546917; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:12:31 -0400 Received: from mblk-d14 (mblk-d14.mblk.aol.com [205.188.149.6]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA024-5bb549d5546917; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:12:25 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:12:25 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42169-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com (205.188.149.6) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:12:25 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB8208006EAB77-11B0-1281@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Extreme nature photog-James Balog X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 02:12:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d55479227262070262475 Came in late on a Nova---thought hmm, interesting geologist carrying a D3 around while checking instruments on a glacier. Then saw there was almost nothing he wouldn't do to get a shot (heard him say while in a crevasse, there is an image in here somewhere." and it became clear. Wanted his job for the early part then was not so sure. I'm about 7 mi from the coast--perhaps I'll be on the beach sooner than expected. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/extremeice/melt.html Play the slide show if interested--too bad there weren't larger higher res Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 05:05:40 2009 Received: (qmail 12907 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 03:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 03:05:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F0FE1830E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591AFE2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4570919FA85 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:05:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A80519F1CC for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:05:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27936 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 03:05:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.206.166) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 03:05:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49D57CF0.8020600@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:05:20 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49BA2CD9.4030203@gmail.com> <49BA3290.1090003@gmail.com> <49CF4223.90307@gmail.com> <49D3FD7E.3070105@gmail.com> <49D4215D.4090506@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] 50/1.8 in the dark [was 35/2 in the dark] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 05:05:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d57d0434142046811720 Thanks Marc, for putting your thoughts so nicely, and Chuck and Tom for agreeing The composition was sheer luck. Capturing active wiggleworms at 1/60 sec. and under at all isn't a snap. The prior shot is similar, except that Rachel's face is throughly OOF. In the one before that, she managed to completely turn her head by the time the shutter snapped. A nicely focused shot of the back of her head. I was just shooting part of the time we were chatting and playing with the kids. Moose Tom Fenwick wrote: > And me. Might have added something specific about the way the cluster of hands and feet pulls it all together. > OK, I'll take credit for cropping to put that in the center. > > 2009/4/2 Chuck Norcutt > >> Yeah. Wish I'd said that. :-) >> >> >> Marc Lawrence wrote: >> >>> Moose wrote: >>> >>>> ... As promised, I've added eight more munchkin images. I'm pretty pleased overall with getting some nice portraits. >>>> < >>>> >>> This one is even better than the one of Liam that I liked: >>> >>> >> http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=VisitKirsten/2009_02_21&image=_MG_5422cr.jpg >> >>> I like that it catches more than just the subject. That is, the out-of-focus bits behind her are not just smooth bokeh that isolate the subject, but are recognisable elements (a composition in itself) that enhance and support the subject with their "distraction". It all feels very "warm". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 05:16:41 2009 Received: (qmail 6463 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 03:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 03:16:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEFDE182E3 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1262FE2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0568F34AC003 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A0034AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:16:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32607 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 03:16:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.177.84) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 03:16:34 -0000 Message-ID: <49D57F8E.8070605@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:16:30 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49BA2CD9.4030203@gmail.com> <49BA3290.1090003@gmail.com> <49CF4223.90307@gmail.com> <49CF688F.9090506@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49CF688F.9090506@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 50/1.8 in the dark [was 35/2 in the dark] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 05:16:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d57f99138403675314703 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > You have some very nice munchkins there. :-) > Not me. I just visit. Bob Whitmire wrote: > Being cute is all that stops us from having children for supper. These children need not fear. > Indeed not. Kirsten has wanted children for years and was about to give up when Rachel came along. Then I guess she got the hang of it and unplanned Liam came along not long thereafter. Just a few weeks old, a regular check-up found a troublesome heart sound and he had to have open heart surgery. Came through perfectly and at that age, won't even have a scar. You can only tell now if you know what to look for. So our dear friend finally has the perfect clutch of one child of each sort. Long hoped for and deeply cared for. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 05:37:58 2009 Received: (qmail 13122 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 03:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 03:37:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D064E182F0 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B8FE2412E for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055CB19FAF6 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:37:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7958619FAC6 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8905 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 03:37:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.189.80) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 03:37:52 -0000 Message-ID: <49D5848C.8020806@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:37:48 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 05:37:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5849680181470116606 Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > ... > Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my cousins de= ck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one does not need a = book to read when having a minute of relief at her place. :) > = All that winter - and then they only have a B&W summer? I don't think I = could take it. :-) > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html > = Nice image. I hope you will soon be able to afford somewhere colorful = for your summer vacation. Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 06:34:22 2009 Received: (qmail 11174 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 04:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 04:34:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20B7E182F1 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C132E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0218619FBB3 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:34:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5937619FBAE for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.250]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so93104rvf.6 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:34:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.157.5 with SMTP id f5mr335038rve.122.1238733255988; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:34:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:34:15 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 62ae2ad06597dcda Message-ID: <60f983080904022134vdb066b1vc4847012a0533c52@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 06:34:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d591ce134829117217770 Nice shot! It's a great job, the cloud is very 3D :P --- Michael 2009/4/3 Johan Malmstr=F6m > As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) > > Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my > cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one > does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her > place. :) > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html > > OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala > > Enjoy! / Johan > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 07:15:03 2009 Received: (qmail 3937 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 05:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 05:15:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216A6E18201 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30947E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EFE34AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:14:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858D434AC001 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:14:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842BECB243 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:37:51 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <912E6F94-C080-43F4-87BC-D3697D3B0B37@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:14:02 +0100 References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 07:15:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d59b57115561591313764 That looks great, Johan. Is that facing west, or thereabouts? Chris On 2 Apr 2009, at 21:04, Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) > > Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my > cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one > does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her > place. :) > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html > > OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 07:16:07 2009 Received: (qmail 19977 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 05:16:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 05:16:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E33E182E5 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71800E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614C619FC13 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:15:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9135C19FC0D for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20610 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 05:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.172.65) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 05:15:56 -0000 Message-ID: <49D59B87.1090507@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:15:51 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB80711B271758-1390-11EB@WEBMAIL-DC01.sysops.aol.com> <49D2BC37.9080506@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D2BC37.9080506@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: [OM] Mini equipment reviews [was Point Lobos, etc.] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 07:16:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d59b97247961234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Actually, ... the tripod was only ever out of the car once. Those who have good tripods, serious heads, acra-swiss style fitted = mounting plates, etc. AND who actually use them most of the time, need = read no further. I'm much closer to Chuck's style; several weeks around the country and = used the tripod only once. It's not like I don't have the equipment. The = big Manfrotto and head you could probably beat a lion to death with. The = feared center column is solid as a rock. The big, hexagonal QR plates = are rock solid too, easily suporting camera and 150-500/5.6 lens. But = when was the last time they were out of the house? Hmmm. The Hakuba CF with Manfrotto 410 geared head is a sweet combo. The light = Velbon was carefully selected at the lightest tripod that actually = helped. But ... the tripod left in the car might as well be home. Sooo... I was at a local photo shop a few months ago. And they had this = odd combo hiking stick/monopod/pseudo tripod set up. I'd seen them = before when someone posted links on the list. I looked and played - and = finally decided that with a bit of careful downward hand pressure on the = camera, this thing was potentially better than a simple monopod, and = certainly better than nothing. I kept on the lookout for a deal, found one and bought a TrekPod GO. = After many months, I'm glad I've had it. It's biggest advantage is that = I do, in fact, quite often take it out of the car and along with me. And = as anticipated, it does add some useful stability, both to the camera = and sometimes to the photographer on rough ground. Since I'm still using it, I though it was time to say something about it. The GO model breaks down shorter and comes with a nice carrying case = that fits easily into my roling duffel suitcase. The donw side it that = it almost assures that TSA will open the bag. Those tubes must look = suspicious on the x-rays. The great weakness isn't the 'pod itself, but the head and camera = attachment stuff, the MagMount=99 AR/i. the magnetic mount seems pretty = secure, and undoubtedly is for light cameras. It also has a locking = collar thingie for greater security. But really, it's not up to the job. = I had determined that the magnet mount would indeed hold 5D and 28-300 = lens at 90 deg. from upright, at least as ong as it wasn't bumped. Then the ball head lock slipped while in upright position, fell to the = side, and dropped the camera. Fortunately, it feel on rug with pad, and = suffered no damage. Still that was the end of that piece of gear. So on = to the next one. ----------------------- Walt turned me on to the Cullmann small, light QR system, and I've used = it a lot. More recently, and before the TrekPod, I saw the small Velbon = QR system in a shop. = = It has some clear advantages over the Cullmanns: - The attachment mechanism has a little pop-up stud, ala Manfrotto, that = holds the locking lever open when the plate is removed and releases it = when a plate is inserted. Thus it has quicker, easier operation. One = handed use is pretty easy and safe with the Velbon and impossible with = the Cullmann. - The rectangular plate is shallower front to back, so it doesn't = protrude from the back of the camera. - The metal parts seem to have less flex, although the Cullmann isn't at = all bad. - The QR recceiver adapter for other heads is MUCH smaller than the = Cullmann. - They sell heads with built-in QR plate receivers, which saves bulk and = weight. The one disadvantage I notice is that they don't have an anti rotation = model QR plate. The result of buying and trying one QRA-3, is that I now have two silver = and one black one floating around on various tripods. ------------------------------ And for the TrekPod GO, the QHD-41Q ball head with QR receiver is the = perfect match for me. = The ball head is quite solid enough for my needs and the QR plate has = never,ever come close to dropping my cameras. It's really what they = should be selling with their pod, not the overly clever and = underachieving thing of their own design. Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 07:20:20 2009 Received: (qmail 18239 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 05:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 05:20:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F740E182E4 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E36E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE26134AC004 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7998634AC002 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23240 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 05:20:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.172.65) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 05:20:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49D59C8A.10707@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:20:10 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 07:20:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d59c94177721499373980 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > You don't understand. My ideal level of snow is 0. > Mine too, and I achieve it here. Pretty stuff in pictures, nice to visit briefly once in a long while, but I wouldn't want to live in it. I guess I don't need a place in Hurricane Alley to avoid it. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 07:24:02 2009 Received: (qmail 4640 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 05:24:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 05:24:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F035E182D2 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E93E24129 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10C619FC1D for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:23:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474E219FC1C for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:23:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC3DCB7B0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:47:45 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8CB8208006EAB77-11B0-1281@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:23:56 +0100 References: <8CB8208006EAB77-11B0-1281@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Extreme nature photog-James Balog X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 07:24:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d59d72327031234514069 The photos are good ... and the message is stark. Those shows are well worth watching. Thanks, Mike Chris On 3 Apr 2009, at 01:12, usher99@aol.com wrote: > Came in late on a Nova---thought hmm, interesting geologist carrying a > D3 around while checking instruments on a glacier. Then saw there was > almost nothing he wouldn't do to get a shot (heard him say while in a > crevasse, there is an image in here somewhere." and it became clear. > Wanted his job for the early part then was not so sure. I'm about 7 > mi from the coast--perhaps I'll be on the beach sooner than expected. > > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/extremeice/melt.html > > Play the slide show if interested--too bad there weren't larger higher > res -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 09:54:14 2009 Received: (qmail 16014 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 07:54:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 07:54:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CED6E182F9 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2065DE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC8B34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5556034AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:53:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ironport.phl.be (ironport.phl.be [193.190.154.205]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO FRONT-END.student.phlimburg.be) ([172.16.201.201]) by relay.phl.be with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 09:53:54 +0200 Received: from [10.6.0.140] ([10.6.0.140]) by FRONT-END.student.phlimburg.be with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:53:54 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> Message-Id: <8236CD1B-6498-4B86-ABA5-D9EFDD83B90D@gmail.com> From: Iwert Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:53:53 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2009 07:53:54.0712 (UTC) FILETIME=[5610F980:01C9B431] Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 09:54:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5c0a6279121838542571 I really like _MG_0167-1.jpg! Iwert Op 2-apr-09, om 12:06 heeft Tom Fenwick het volgende geschreven: > PS About the bare breast poster... You may not be aware that in BG > a beaver > is called a squirrel. That's my most serendipitous > truck-driving-into-frame-and-changing-everything shot ever. > > Tom > > 2009/4/2 Tom Fenwick > >> Glad you picked the group. It took me about 20 minutes to resolve >> all that >> anarchy into something coherent. I had had just as much Rakiya as >> anyone >> else though, and I knew I could stop once I had that one. >> >> Tom >> >> 2009/4/2 Andrew Fildes >> >>> Love the family group and your mate with the big nose. Surprised to >>> see a bare breast in a poster but then, it's been about as long >>> since >>> I've been in Bulgaria as in Loughborough. >>> Andrew Fildes >>> >>> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>> >>> > ____________________________________________________________ PHL-OPENDEURDAG 25 APRIL 2009 van 10.00u tot 16.00u Campus Elfde Linie Campus Hasselt Centrum Campus Diepenbeek Omdat een bezoekje ter plaatse helpt bij een goede studiekeuze! Meer info : http://www.phl.be Benieuwd naar onze opleidingen? Bekijk de verschillende opleidingsfilmpjes via http://www.phl.be/opleidingsfilmpjes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 10:08:40 2009 Received: (qmail 7194 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 08:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 08:08:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D036E1830F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF83E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5888B19DA07 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:08:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F3419DA08 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:08:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ironport.phl.be (ironport.phl.be [193.190.154.205]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 01:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO FRONT-END.student.phlimburg.be) ([172.16.201.201]) by relay.phl.be with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 10:08:33 +0200 Received: from [10.6.0.140] ([10.6.0.140]) by FRONT-END.student.phlimburg.be with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:08:33 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8CB8208006EAB77-11B0-1281@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB8208006EAB77-11B0-1281@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: <988E8176-8F25-45BD-91D6-B7510C930956@gmail.com> From: Iwert Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:08:32 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2009 08:08:33.0650 (UTC) FILETIME=[61F44520:01C9B433] Subject: Re: [OM] Extreme nature photog-James Balog X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 10:08:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5c408213301470116606 Once again impressed about the message, what economic crisis? we're heading for dramatic times... Iwert Op 3-apr-09, om 02:12 heeft usher99@aol.com het volgende geschreven: > Came in late on a Nova---thought hmm, interesting geologist carrying a > D3 around while checking instruments on a glacier. Then saw there was > almost nothing he wouldn't do to get a shot (heard him say while in a > crevasse, there is an image in here somewhere." and it became clear. > Wanted his job for the early part then was not so sure. I'm about 7 > mi from the coast--perhaps I'll be on the beach sooner than expected. > > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/extremeice/melt.html > > Play the slide show if interested--too bad there weren't larger higher > res > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > ____________________________________________________________ PHL-OPENDEURDAG 25 APRIL 2009 van 10.00u tot 16.00u Campus Elfde Linie Campus Hasselt Centrum Campus Diepenbeek Omdat een bezoekje ter plaatse helpt bij een goede studiekeuze! Meer info : http://www.phl.be Benieuwd naar onze opleidingen? Bekijk de verschillende opleidingsfilmpjes via http://www.phl.be/opleidingsfilmpjes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 11:18:06 2009 Received: (qmail 21993 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 09:18:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 09:18:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13D5E182E2 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D340FE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C0E34AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3625F34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 02:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so491016fga.13 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:18:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.29.8 with SMTP id c8mr829960fgc.7.1238750280166; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:18:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8236CD1B-6498-4B86-ABA5-D9EFDD83B90D@gmail.com> References: <1DFF8010-6ED1-4A10-A10A-5C4599359167@people.net.au> <8236CD1B-6498-4B86-ABA5-D9EFDD83B90D@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:18:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 11:18:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5d44e49991993019900 Me too. I guess in this case the large out-of-focus foreground area is really integral to the composition :-) Tom 2009/4/3 Iwert > I really like _MG_0167-1.jpg! > > Iwert > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 12:08:30 2009 Received: (qmail 8872 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 10:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 10:08:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A568E182E4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB3DE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFCA19DDAC for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DC619DD11 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:08:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so892689fxm.14 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:08:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.60.15 with SMTP id i15mr866509fga.28.1238753302327; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:08:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <988E8176-8F25-45BD-91D6-B7510C930956@gmail.com> References: <8CB8208006EAB77-11B0-1281@mblk-d14.sysops.aol.com> <988E8176-8F25-45BD-91D6-B7510C930956@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:08:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Extreme nature photog-James Balog X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 12:08:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5e01e51214673671140 I just watched the slide show too - interesting. Did anyone get a copy of Stuart Franklin's "Footprint"? A more general view, although Europe based, and going some way to linking the economic and environmental aspects while solely relying on artistic communication... Tom 2009/4/3 Iwert > Once again impressed about the message, > what economic crisis? we're heading for dramatic times... > > Iwert > > > Op 3-apr-09, om 02:12 heeft usher99@aol.com het volgende geschreven: > > > Came in late on a Nova---thought hmm, interesting geologist carrying a > > D3 around while checking instruments on a glacier. Then saw there was > > almost nothing he wouldn't do to get a shot (heard him say while in a > > crevasse, there is an image in here somewhere." and it became clear. > > Wanted his job for the early part then was not so sure. I'm about 7 > > mi from the coast--perhaps I'll be on the beach sooner than expected. > > > > > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/extremeice/melt.html > > > > Play the slide show if interested--too bad there weren't larger higher > > res > > > > Mike > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > PHL-OPENDEURDAG > 25 APRIL 2009 van 10.00u tot 16.00u > Campus Elfde Linie > Campus Hasselt Centrum > Campus Diepenbeek > Omdat een bezoekje ter plaatse helpt bij een goede studiekeuze! > Meer info : http://www.phl.be > > Benieuwd naar onze opleidingen? > Bekijk de verschillende opleidingsfilmpjes via > http://www.phl.be/opleidingsfilmpjes > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 12:11:20 2009 Received: (qmail 9829 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 10:11:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 10:11:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E890DE18305 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F024E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B21619DE7F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:11:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FD419DDED for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:11:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1019418fge.13 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:11:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.36.17 with SMTP id j17mr825280fgj.69.1238753470988; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:11:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D420BA.3030306@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D420BA.3030306@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:11:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Blending in - Was Re: Loughborough X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 12:11:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5e0c836521591313764 Thanks, Chuck. I came very close to buying the small plot next door to the house where that one was taken, but now the pound has bombed against the euro I'm waiting to see for a while! Tom 2009/4/2 Chuck Norcutt > Oooh! 6959... I like. Some others too. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Tom Fenwick wrote: > > Andrew, > > > > You have inspired me to waste some time putting together some meditations > on > > Bulgarian style, and a couple of clues as to its effect on mine. I would > be > > surprised if there isn't something for everyone in here. I think I have > > shown two of the images here before, but I can't resist including them: > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/style > > > > Tom > > > > 2009/4/1 Andrew Fildes > > > >> He dressed to blend in. It's not as if he was going anywhere > >> sophisticated, like Bulgaria. > >> Andrew Fildes > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 02/04/2009, at 12:24 AM, Donald wrote: > >> > >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/loughborough > >>>> > >>>> Tom > >>> Bloody scruff! > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 12:46:28 2009 Received: (qmail 22437 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 10:46:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 10:46:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D0FE182E6 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B07E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D81219DF8B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:46:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BED19DF83 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 196.red-83-52-20.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.20.196]:54507 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lpgua-0001Du-2n (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:46:13 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion , Picture a Day discussion group Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:46:11 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 12:46:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5e904135321234514069 I lived in Zurich from 2000 to 2003, but had not been back there for a couple of years--until earlier this week, when a business trip to Geneva coupled with a free half-day allowed me the opportunity to hop on the train and spend a nice afternoon in Zurich: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/7792628_XxKMo#504391899_x6e4B As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 12:50:50 2009 Received: (qmail 12450 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 10:50:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 10:50:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6E1E182F4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D494E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0231234AC01B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7A734AC019 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104DD2E45955 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id koHUE3BbiQxY for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3753B2E45946 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <26480252-A067-40D3-8E62-07FADD11C897@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:50:40 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Grim out there... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 12:50:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5ea0a262551257536491 > From: Donald > > While out doing a bit of necessary shopping, I popped into PC World to > have a quick look at printers... > > The place didn't exactly have tumbleweed blowing down the aisles, but > there must have been twenty staff in there, and me. Great time to buy a printer. I just got a Minolta 37ppm Postscript colour laser, with free optional duplexer and optional 500-page drawer for under $600, shipped. The retail price for this package is $1,500! The one it's replacing cost me $4,000 eight years ago. But this one may be $300 in a few months. That's the pain of deflation. Hope y'all are sittin' on a pile of cash, rather than watching your IRA slip below 50% of what it was worth a short time ago. But the way Timmy has been printing money, double-digit stagflation is going to come roaring back as soon as we get drunk on this relatively cheap oil again. So don't hold your cash too long. :::: Schist! I was about to take it for granite! :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 12:59:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13901 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 10:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 10:59:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D423FE182E9 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DAAE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732BD19DF81 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B096E19DCB5 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:58:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-70-207.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.70.207]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n33AwspN024702 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:58:55 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:58:42 +1100 Message-ID: <000001c9b44b$27af5a40$770e0ec0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acm0SXCCWhm6e+EQSU+5QDc2P2KbNwAAZiSw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 12:59:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5ebf9240941234514069 Another great collection Nathan. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Wajsman [] > Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 9:46 PM > To: Leica Users Group; leica@freelists.org; Olympus Camera Discussion; > Picture a Day discussion group > Subject: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich > > I lived in Zurich from 2000 to 2003, but had not been back there for a > couple of years--until earlier this week, when a business trip to > Geneva coupled with a free half-day allowed me the opportunity to hop > on the train and spend a nice afternoon in Zurich: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/7792628_XxKMo#504391899_x6e4B > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 13:06:29 2009 Received: (qmail 32098 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 11:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 11:06:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E34E182F9 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ABBE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A797F34AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BAC34AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:06:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; 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The sound you hear when viewing no. 14 is the sound of many of my buttons being pushed...but I probably couldn't afford her. ;-) D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 13:28:27 2009 Received: (qmail 31466 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 11:28:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 11:28:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E33E182E1 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A888E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2FF19E0BE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B7E19E097 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LphZM-0000KH-NB for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:28:20 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LphZM-00083e-4f for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: <49D5F2EA.9040906@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:28:42 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <26480252-A067-40D3-8E62-07FADD11C897@Bytesmiths.com> In-Reply-To: <26480252-A067-40D3-8E62-07FADD11C897@Bytesmiths.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Grim out there... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 13:28:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5f2db291881591313764 Jan Steinman wrote: > > > Great time to buy a printer. > > I just got a Minolta 37ppm Postscript colour laser, with free optional > duplexer and optional 500-page drawer for under $600, shipped. The > retail price for this package is $1,500! > > The one it's replacing cost me $4,000 eight years ago. > > Good bargain. My horizon has shifted slightly. Last night on QVC (Fiona was watching; I was computing, elsewhere...) there was an Epson 1400 A3 effort, which wasn't particularly cheap (I can get it cheaper locally), but the fact that she called me through to see it means she wasn't put off by the price. So... ;-) If the CFO is unfazed by the cost of that, maybe I can hit that 'price point' (horrible phrase) without being hung. I'm not finding reviews helpful, though. Alternating tales of disaster and paeans of uncritical praise. Epsons clog; their cartridges are too small; HPs are boxy and paper handling is dodgy; Canons are flimsy and unreliable; and expensive to run. As it's a huge decision for me on account of the proportion of disposable income it will absorb, I worry about a mistake. Now I'll have to take my medication... D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 13:35:11 2009 Received: (qmail 18668 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 11:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 11:35:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4314E182E4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C538E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D27B19E0E2 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1BC19E0D8 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jon@jonmitch.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-filter-4-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.100.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Trace: 172906246/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.75.216.216/None/jon@jonmitch.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.75.216.216 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: jon@jonmitch.co.uk X-MUA: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAAaR1UlPS9jY/2dsb2JhbACOKMEshA8G X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,319,1235952000"; d="scan'208";a="172906246" Received: from 79-75-216-216.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO MEDIAPC) ([79.75.216.216]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 12:35:03 +0100 From: "Jon Mitchell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:35:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c9b450$3c2f0e70$0265a8c0@MEDIAPC> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D5EDC3.8000505@blueyonder.co.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090402-1, 02/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 13:35:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5f46e118961744846740 Super stuff, Nathan. The sound you hear when viewing no. 14 is the sound of many of my buttons being pushed...but I probably couldn't afford her. ... She's for sale ? That puts a whole new twist on things ... ;-) Jon -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 13:40:28 2009 Received: (qmail 7129 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 11:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 11:40:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7DEE182E8 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26971E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DC119E11B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3666119E114 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 04:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-70-207.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.70.207]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n33BeJnr016017 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:20 +1100 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49D5EDC3.8000505@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D5EDC3.8000505@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:07 +1100 Message-ID: <000101c9b450$f136e5e0$d3a4b1a0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acm0TD2NJKdvQ4WaTuylKMj66CtNVAABIK1w Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 13:40:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5f5ac301711073733319 Yeah, and I bet the "consumables" would be a lot more than for that printer you were looking at ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald [] > Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 10:07 PM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich > > > Super stuff, Nathan. The sound you hear when viewing no. 14 is the > sound > of many of my buttons being pushed...but I probably couldn't afford > her. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 14:02:36 2009 Received: (qmail 30222 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 12:02:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 12:02:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF33E182F3 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCCFE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FE819E1A0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:02:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B7019E186 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:02:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so613336ywq.80 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:02:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.133.1 with SMTP id g1mr2654456and.46.1238760147160; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:02:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:02:27 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 14:02:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d5fadc147981702588592 On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I lived in Zurich from 2000 to 2003, but had not been back there for a > couple of years--until earlier this week, when a business trip to > Geneva coupled with a free half-day allowed me the opportunity to hop > on the train and spend a nice afternoon in Zurich: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/7792628_XxKMo#504391899_x6e4B It's nice to see a few ladies, not for the usual reasons, but because Switzerland gives off the impression of being full only of very careful and secretive men. ;^) Why is the graffiti in English? It's obvious it was written by a native German speaker because the letters all fit correctly in the space available. ;^) The recycling photo makes me think of Tom Fenwick, which I hope you will take as a compliment (to both of you actually). Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 14:56:36 2009 Received: (qmail 18310 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 12:56:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA5CE18314 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4843FE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107A219E2CD for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:56:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EC919E2C5 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:56:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31322 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 12:56:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 12:56:29 -0000 Message-ID: <49D6077C.2070402@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:56:28 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> <49D59C8A.10707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D59C8A.10707@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090402-1, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 14:56:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d60784172657350615338 But where will you be when your half of California breaks off and goes out to sea? :-) Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> You don't understand. My ideal level of snow is 0. >> > > Mine too, and I achieve it here. Pretty stuff in pictures, nice to visit > briefly once in a long while, but I wouldn't want to live in it. > > I guess I don't need a place in Hurricane Alley to avoid it. :-) > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 15:17:41 2009 Received: (qmail 14060 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 13:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 13:17:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9202CE182F2 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC54E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3BC19E35B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FF819E346 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10788 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 13:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090402-1, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 15:17:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d60c75186001838542571 11 is the winner with 13, 19, 21, 24 and 25 as the runners up. :-) 14 would have made the grade too except for the cut off feet. Probably more attractive if cropped vertically at about the half way point and horizontally near the top of her left boot. I guess that would be about square. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I lived in Zurich from 2000 to 2003, but had not been back there for a > couple of years--until earlier this week, when a business trip to > Geneva coupled with a free half-day allowed me the opportunity to hop > on the train and spend a nice afternoon in Zurich: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/7792628_XxKMo#504391899_x6e4B > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 15:18:12 2009 Received: (qmail 11660 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 13:18:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 13:18:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ADAE18303 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87257E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CF619E355 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA9719E344 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.243]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1024145rvf.50 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:17:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.115.20 with SMTP id s20mr552338rvm.285.1238764662551; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:17:42 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1c9091530d91cb7f Message-ID: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 15:18:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d60c94112471257536491 Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko 21mm F3.5. The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH --- Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 15:26:34 2009 Received: (qmail 23588 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 13:26:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 13:26:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA94E182FF for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E4E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16DB19E38F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FDA19E38E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15334 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 13:26:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090402-1, 04/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 15:26:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d60e8a205881499373980 And also be careful of holding the camera level to avoid perspective problems and also to keep your feet out of the picture. :-) Chuck Norcutt Michael Wong wrote: > Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko 21mm F3.5. > The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > > > Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > > > --- > Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 15:27:09 2009 Received: (qmail 6398 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 13:27:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 13:27:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC91E18303 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F201DE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19DB19E393 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:27:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D4F19E38F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:27:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ironport.phl.be (ironport.phl.be [193.190.154.205]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO FRONT-END.student.phlimburg.be) ([172.16.201.201]) by relay.phl.be with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2009 15:26:59 +0200 Received: from [10.6.0.140] ([10.6.0.140]) by FRONT-END.student.phlimburg.be with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:26:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Iwert Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:26:58 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2009 13:26:59.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE2FFEF0:01C9B45F] Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 15:27:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d60ead249801585427447 Just crop :), But serious: enjoy the wide view and the newness! I like 3857, 3861, 3872 most. The last one because you're so close. I guess 15mm is really hard, I find the 18mm already very wide. My favourite wide for reportage is the 21f3.5 (if sunny): Iwert Op 3-apr-09, om 15:17 heeft Michael Wong het volgende geschreven: > Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko > 21mm F3.5. > The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > > > Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > > > --- > Michael > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > ____________________________________________________________ PHL-OPENDEURDAG 25 APRIL 2009 van 10.00u tot 16.00u Campus Elfde Linie Campus Hasselt Centrum Campus Diepenbeek Omdat een bezoekje ter plaatse helpt bij een goede studiekeuze! Meer info : http://www.phl.be Benieuwd naar onze opleidingen? Bekijk de verschillende opleidingsfilmpjes via http://www.phl.be/opleidingsfilmpjes -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 15:50:59 2009 Received: (qmail 32644 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 13:50:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 13:50:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E071E18319 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C546E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA8434AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:50:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469D334AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:50:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.251]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 06:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1033976rvf.50 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:50:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.255.19 with SMTP id c19mr573454rvi.171.1238766653781; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:50:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D60E84.2050904@chucknorcutt.com> References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> <49D60E84.2050904@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:50:53 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 387166670b0079a1 Message-ID: <60f983080904030650m7425a36ey5d92213c888c58cb@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 15:50:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d61443142691234514069 Yes, I found quite difficult to control perspective problems @@ It makes me to remember that I always put my finger in the picture when I shot with fisheye ........... >_< --- Michael 2009/4/3 Chuck Norcutt > And also be careful of holding the camera level to avoid perspective > problems and also to keep your feet out of the picture. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Michael Wong wrote: > > Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > > Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > > fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko 21mm > F3.5. > > The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > > pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > > > > > > Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > > > > > > --- > > Michael > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 16:14:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8947 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 14:14:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 14:14:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF88E182ED for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1169EE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1BD19E4C2 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:14:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BEE19E4BD for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:14:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.251]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 07:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1041274rvf.50 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:14:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.154.8 with SMTP id g8mr575199rvo.235.1238768075564; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:14:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:14:35 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: faff0325c07d318c Message-ID: <60f983080904030714j7890aa36r764ad8b3e20651c1@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 16:14:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d619d1136941234514069 Thanks, Iwert. 15mm is difficult handle but it's a best buy lens, less US$300 with viewfinder. It's a good lens for Leica user :-) --- Michael 2009/4/3 Iwert > Just crop :), But serious: enjoy the wide view and the newness! > I like 3857, 3861, 3872 most. The last one because you're so close. > I guess 15mm is really hard, I find the 18mm already very wide. > My favourite wide for reportage is the 21f3.5 (if sunny): > > > > > Iwert > > Op 3-apr-09, om 15:17 heeft Michael Wong het volgende geschreven: > > > Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > > Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > > fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko > > 21mm F3.5. > > The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > > pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > > > > > > Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > PHL-OPENDEURDAG > 25 APRIL 2009 van 10.00u tot 16.00u > Campus Elfde Linie > Campus Hasselt Centrum > Campus Diepenbeek > Omdat een bezoekje ter plaatse helpt bij een goede studiekeuze! > Meer info : http://www.phl.be > > Benieuwd naar onze opleidingen? > Bekijk de verschillende opleidingsfilmpjes via > http://www.phl.be/opleidingsfilmpjes > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 18:35:16 2009 Received: (qmail 890 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 16:35:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 16:35:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6052E1832A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9D0E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC22719E8F0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:35:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EBF19E8DE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n33GYx6l015537 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:35:04 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:34:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 18:35:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d63ac4147401585427447 For me, even 18mm is too wide, the problem is to find suitable subject to shoot. I seldom use the 18, when I need superwide for special effects I prefer my 16mm fisheye. For street I like 21 to 40mm - http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/21F2/21street.htm C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iwert" > Just crop :), But serious: enjoy the wide view and the newness! > I like 3857, 3861, 3872 most. The last one because you're so close. > I guess 15mm is really hard, I find the 18mm already very wide. > My favourite wide for reportage is the 21f3.5 (if sunny): > > > > > Iwert > > Op 3-apr-09, om 15:17 heeft Michael Wong het volgende geschreven: > >> Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 >> Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm >> fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko >> 21mm F3.5. >> The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the >> pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ >> >> >> Kodak TMAX 400, 20? + 7 mins, TMAX Developer >> http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH >> >> >> --- >> Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 21:32:34 2009 Received: (qmail 23491 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 19:32:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 19:32:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969F7E18321 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468DAE2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FC634AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA8534AC005 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 212-166-165-119.red-acceso.airtel.net ([212.166.165.119]:50006) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lpp7m-0004c7-IY (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:32:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Nathan Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:32:17 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 21:32:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d66452285041744846740 Thanks for looking and commenting, Joel. The graffiti is in English, since it was most likely written by some anti-globalization types who had come to Switzerland to protest at the WEF in Davos, as they do every year. Since the security forces keep them away from Davos, they tend to stage protests in Swiss cities like Zurich or Geneva. And yes, being compared to Tom is flattering indeed! Cheers, Nathan On 03/04/2009, at 14:02, Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Nathan Wajsman > wrote: >> I lived in Zurich from 2000 to 2003, but had not been back there >> for a >> couple of years--until earlier this week, when a business trip to >> Geneva coupled with a free half-day allowed me the opportunity to hop >> on the train and spend a nice afternoon in Zurich: >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/7792628_XxKMo#504391899_x6e4B > > It's nice to see a few ladies, not for the usual reasons, but because > Switzerland gives off the impression of being full only of very > careful and secretive men. ;^) > > Why is the graffiti in English? It's obvious it was written by a > native German speaker because the letters all fit correctly in the > space available. ;^) > > The recycling photo makes me think of Tom Fenwick, which I hope you > will take as a compliment (to both of you actually). > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 21:56:29 2009 Received: (qmail 20969 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 19:56:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD9AE1830C for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36472E2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B67219EE47 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:56:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA39819EE55 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18276 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2009 19:56:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.132.47) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 19:56:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <501F9821-0EC4-4FF7-BC5C-59BBF4A46064@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:56:19 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 21:56:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d669ed317549117217770 Don't get faces/heads in the corners! (Even worse with the 12mm!) That's a terrific lens on the M8 with a 21mm finder (ignore frame). And tiny, tiny, tiny. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/04/2009, at 12:17 AM, Michael Wong wrote: > Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko > 21mm F3.5. > The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > > > Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > > > --- > Michael > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 21:58:28 2009 Received: (qmail 11151 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 19:58:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 19:58:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEA6E182E5 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE31E2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B62019EE67 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:58:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B6619EE63 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18314 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2009 19:58:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.132.47) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 19:58:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:58:20 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 21:58:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d66a6437851529615919 I don't know about that - did you see that self-portrait?! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 04/04/2009, at 6:32 AM, Nathan wrote: > And yes, being compared to Tom is flattering indeed! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 22:14:31 2009 Received: (qmail 4752 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 20:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 20:14:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4098AE182F7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EB6E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31FD19EEC8 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0340E19EE9F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:14:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19942 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2009 20:14:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.132.47) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 20:14:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:14:22 +1100 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 22:14:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d66e2717418512572685 I was rather disturbed by #15 - it seems to involved an anatomically incorrect Galah. They don't have yellow crests - please tell them to repaint it grey. Immediately. One expects a certain precision from the Swiss. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 22:32:47 2009 Received: (qmail 8612 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 20:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 20:32:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE9E182FE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED252E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D493019EF46 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:32:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A266819EF32 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1100765fge.13 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.79.12 with SMTP id c12mr1309498fgb.64.1238790760388; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.66? (78-105-194-202.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.194.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm4275503fga.28.2009.04.03.13.32.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:32:28 +0100 References: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 22:32:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6726f323811234514069 I was going to say you'd know which one I wish I'd got :-) I am very happy to be complimented by both of you! Tom Sent from my iPhone On 3 Apr 2009, at 20:32, Nathan wrote: > > And yes, being compared to Tom is flattering indeed! > > Cheers, > Nathan > > On 03/04/2009, at 14:02, Joel Wilcox wrote: >>> >> >> >> >> The recycling photo makes me think of Tom Fenwick, which I hope you >> will take as a compliment (to both of you actually). >> >> Joel W. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 22:34:17 2009 Received: (qmail 16900 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 20:34:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 20:34:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AC6E182EB for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD67E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4D534AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0769034AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so1100928fge.13 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.1.1 with SMTP id 1mr1348848fga.0.1238790850945; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.66? (78-105-194-202.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.194.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm9432278fgb.26.2009.04.03.13.34.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <61305864-F7A2-4464-8001-550F8D9690D7@gmail.com> From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:33:59 +0100 References: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 22:34:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d672c9137738512572685 :-D Sent from my iPhone On 3 Apr 2009, at 20:58, Andrew Fildes wrote: > I don't know about that - did you see that self-portrait?! > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 04/04/2009, at 6:32 AM, Nathan wrote: > >> And yes, being compared to Tom is flattering indeed! > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 22:55:42 2009 Received: (qmail 10830 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 20:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 20:55:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1716FE182EC for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5500CE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D1319EFD0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9406E19EFC9 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:55:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1129734bwz.14 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:55:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.13 with SMTP id v13mr547489bkh.50.1238792134021; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:55:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0904030502x10c24fa9sdd325eb706d9c481@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 61fd91d8f0f6bdc6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 22:55:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d677ce143391869477228 Joel Wilcox wrote: > > Why is the graffiti in English? It's obvious it was written by a > native German speaker because the letters all fit correctly in the > space available. ;^) > Obviously not a University of Iowa student. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:00:19 2009 Received: (qmail 20852 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:00:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:00:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625D8E182E4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208BE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933B034AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:00:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B59134AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:00:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1129416fxm.14 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.117.201 with SMTP id s9mr547972bkq.36.1238792412108; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:00:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D59C8A.10707@gmail.com> References: <40645DDC-57AB-4138-87CD-2EAE4709F16C@mac.com> <49D41FB8.5060705@chucknorcutt.com> <1EA134EC-D54E-42E1-A056-DED40834D48F@mac.com> <49D48E07.40508@chucknorcutt.com> <49D59C8A.10707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:00:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e9ce0fd2a4d14410 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:00:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d678e3214597927319144 Shake-n-bake-n-slide-n-Moose wrote: > I guess I don't need a place in Hurricane Alley to avoid it. :-) No, but you just have to deal with the occasional earthquake, wildfire and mudslide to avoid it. I'm trying to figure out that justification.... There is one huge advantage to living in the wintery climates. There's nothing like a good blizzard to keep the riff-raff down. We don't have near the street-crimes in blizzard country as you do in the warmer climates. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:35:16 2009 Received: (qmail 8627 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:35:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:35:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5592BE182E6 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F51E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C272634AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:35:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D109334AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (smtp09.online.nl [194.134.42.54]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2881E40A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:35:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:35:00 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:34:59 +0200 Message-ID: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:35:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6811446414673671140 Hi guys, I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:36:28 2009 Received: (qmail 10029 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:36:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D933CE18300 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFC0E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E378E19F105 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E74B19EFA3 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1138932fxm.14 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr1319818fga.73.1238794576214; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.66? (78-105-194-202.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.194.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm4331271fgb.21.2009.04.03.14.36.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:36:04 +0100 Subject: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:36:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6815c267902070262475 Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't fail to be interesting! Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - an exciting week for both of us! Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 Tom Sent from my iPhone -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:43:44 2009 Received: (qmail 20553 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:43:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:43:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D03E1830E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4FBE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B7A19F12D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:43:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE27D19F127 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50964 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LprAo-000833-GC for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:43:38 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:43:36 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm0pT4GfLZe8CCYEd64twAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:43:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68310139077927319144 I think you'll feel welcome. Some parts of the USA depend very heavily on tourism for their economy (Florida, for example), and even in other areas, tourists who come and spend money help local people keep their jobs. I don't think anyone here hates foreign tourists who have money, it is our own political and corporate leaders who have sold out our country and they are the objects of hatred for those suffering. We know who did this to us, and it wasn't you or anyone else outside the USA. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/3/09 5:34 PM, "Wiliam Wagenaar" wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:49:27 2009 Received: (qmail 30981 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:49:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:49:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B4CE182FE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAA8E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC93519F16C for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:49:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119B619F127 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:49:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090403214922.FTFW1731.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:49:22 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id b9pM1b0014Z9Gks029pM8r; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:49:21 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=SF9Bp9DCGcwkfVRPImQA:9 a=ekdMF85wCFYkEiJ2V-gA:7 a=j5aeVyRcPTj2JlkIHpy9ZqqipnoA:4 a=TmLYuLy49JwA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:49:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:49:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68467127431993019900 Tent cities? Where? Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:34 PM Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.40/2039 - Release Date: 04/03/09 06:19:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:52:50 2009 Received: (qmail 2832 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:52:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:52:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF808E182FF for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDD0E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD8119F127 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9E019F17B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50061 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LprJb-0006uZ-74 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:52:43 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:52:41 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm0poLfwZxNdSCZEd64twAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:52:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68532175151823421471 I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside Sacramento, California. The city was trying to find someplace to house all the homeless people there, many of whom were middle class people who had lost their jobs, then their homes and everything else. Remember that in California housing is so drastically overpriced that people can't keep the house unless they QUICKLY find a job paying nearly the same as the old job they lost. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/3/09 5:49 PM, "Sue Pearce" wrote: > Tent cities? Where? > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:34 PM > Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> Hi guys, >> >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed >> feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and >> wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how >> welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people >> loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and >> loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that >> staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend >> people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read >> on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. >> That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? >> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I >> do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >> >> Wiliam >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.40/2039 - Release Date: 04/03/09 > 06:19:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 3 23:58:03 2009 Received: (qmail 8103 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 21:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 21:58:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B098AE18309 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB31BE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7D219F13B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF6C19F133 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28930 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 21:57:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 21:57:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:57:54 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 3 23:58:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6866b61454673671140 Congratulations. Lots of really nice people shots on the link below. Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a > portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on > Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta > Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the > curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't > fail to be interesting! > > Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, > Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - > an exciting week for both of us! > > Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 > > Tom > > > > Sent from my iPhone -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:08:55 2009 Received: (qmail 25427 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:08:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:08:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29606E18313 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A985E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0316A19F1B8 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:08:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD00419F1B3 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b73f1b00Z0S2fkCAAA8oRs; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:08:48 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.20.254.166]) by OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bA8n1b00r3cAhRk8VA8oGx; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:08:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:08:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:08:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d688f7106782046811720 I whole heartedly agree with everything Chris said! Anyone who would blame our economic problems on tourists, has a very loose grip on the reallity of the situation. So by all means, come, spend money and have a great visit! Darin Wiliam Wagenaar: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:10:15 2009 Received: (qmail 1584 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:10:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9708E182E7 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF7EE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE7D34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1D134AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so589527fga.13 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.83.2 with SMTP id g2mr1392370fgb.2.1238796607567; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.66? (78-105-194-202.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.194.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm9487803fgg.5.2009.04.03.15.10.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com> From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:09:56 +0100 References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:10:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68947133331023412894 Thanks Chuck. One of those people photos is through the cv 15mm lens being discussed in another thread. Tom Sent from my iPhone On 3 Apr 2009, at 22:57, Chuck wrote: > Congratulations. Lots of really nice people shots on the link below. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Tom Fenwick wrote: >> >> >> Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:10:47 2009 Received: (qmail 30645 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:10:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:10:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4722CE18304 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8FDE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADEC34AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42E134AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp08.online.nl (smtp08.online.nl [194.134.42.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E634C666ED for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:10:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:10:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:10:23 +0200 Message-ID: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:10:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68967989347015869 Yes Chris, That is the kind of tent cities I heard about too. I also read that people first had to leave their homes and stores their inventory in a storage facility. After a few months of non payments for the storage their inventory was auctioned off. Thanks for your first answer also. I know there is hardly anything I could have done to cause the current or to help stop it for that matter. I am not looking for an explanation for what happened, nor am I trying to find a scapegoat. I am merely asking will we be welcome and safe? Thanks for your time, Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com] > Verzonden: vrijdag 3 april 2009 23:53 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside > Sacramento, California. The city was trying to find someplace > to house all the homeless people there, many of whom were > middle class people who had lost their jobs, then their homes > and everything else. Remember that in California housing is > so drastically overpriced that people can't keep the house > unless they QUICKLY find a job paying nearly the same as the > old job they lost. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 4/3/09 5:49 PM, "Sue Pearce" wrote: > > > Tent cities? Where? > > Bill Pearce > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:34 PM > > Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > >> mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about > preparing for the > >> trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am > >> wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > >> stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer > being able to > >> pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to > live in tent > >> cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, > but I feel > >> like we might offend people because we are able to have a > holiday in > >> the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores > more staff > >> was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the > >> thoughts about this on the list? > >> > >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and > please believe > >> me I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > >> > >> Wiliam > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------- > > -- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.40/2039 - Release Date: > > 04/03/09 06:19:00 > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:16:21 2009 Received: (qmail 272 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:16:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:16:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB31E182E2 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08ACE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B074619F1E4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D6019F1D6 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5428 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 22:16:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 22:16:15 -0000 Message-ID: <49D68AAE.5050705@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:16:14 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> In-Reply-To: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:16:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68ab5270131035110158 The local unemployment rate is 9.2% which is higher than the national average which is about 8.5% at the moment. I won't say there are no tent cities (I know Flagler county, Florida is at 14% unemployment) but I surely haven't seen any... and I just left Florida 4 weeks ago. I think your worries are entirely misplaced. Come and bring plenty of money. There are plenty of people who will be most happy to help you spend it and are polite enough not to bite the hand that's helping to feed them. Seriously, many of the places you are likely to visit are largely supported by tourist dollars. The problem right now is that there are not enough of you. Come on over!!! So, what do you think you'd like to see? And how do you want to get there? By air or by car? I wouldn't recommend rail. There is some rail travel in the US but it's limited and expensive. I consider myself a modest expert now having just circumnavigated most of the country by car. 11,508 miles in about 45 days. Cost was approx. $8,000 for all food, fuel and lodging for two people and my 23.5 miles per gallon Buick. But gas is cheaper today than it was then and car rental is probably low cost right now. Lodging wouldn't cost any more to include a couple young kids. Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:17:20 2009 Received: (qmail 29835 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:17:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6655DE182EA for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72004E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B9719F1C3 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1AE19EA24 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:17:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (smtp04.online.nl [194.134.41.34]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4068EE161 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:17:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:17:11 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:17:11 +0200 Message-ID: <33FC3B968C7F42AE851A8330DB63878A@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:17:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68af0178841234514069 Congratulations Tom. I really like the "Living the Dream" gallery. Wiliam > > Chuck Norcutt > > Tom Fenwick wrote: > > Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a > > portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on > > Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta > > Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the > > curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, > but can't > > fail to be interesting! > > > > Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, > > Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see > below) - > > an exciting week for both of us! > > > > Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:21:06 2009 Received: (qmail 7881 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:21:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:21:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C986E182FD for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6901FE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CFB34AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B0934AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7857 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 22:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 22:21:00 -0000 Message-ID: <49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:21:00 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> <578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:21:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68bd265261234514069 I assume that it must be T003. But it's a surprise since I expected distortion that I don't see. Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > Thanks Chuck. One of those people photos is through the cv 15mm lens > being discussed in another thread. > > Tom > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 3 Apr 2009, at 22:57, Chuck wrote: > >> Congratulations. Lots of really nice people shots on the link below. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>> >>> Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:21:45 2009 Received: (qmail 2485 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:21:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:21:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5C6E18308 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B22E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39CE34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D8034AC006 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8044 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 22:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:21:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68bf950302070262475 yes! Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: I am merely asking will we be welcome and safe? > > Thanks for your time, > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:37:48 2009 Received: (qmail 10443 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:37:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:37:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70064E1830D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAF4E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E18534AC007 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7282534AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.144]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so246341eyb.26 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.71.12 with SMTP id t12mr895391eba.3.1238798253753; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.66? (78-105-194-202.zone3.bethere.co.uk [78.105.194.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3555846eyb.0.2009.04.03.15.37.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 23:37:21 +0100 References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> <578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com> <49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:37:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d68fbc307961499373980 That's the one - good call. The lens is basically distortion free on the brick wall test, and the corner stretching doesn't really show on landscapes. It's an incredible lens... But I've given all that m stuff up. As I said to someone the other day, I gave up the leica when I saw Philip Perkis' "The Sadness of Men" - the book I was hoping to put together over the next 30 years :-) Sent from my iPhone On 3 Apr 2009, at 23:21, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I assume that it must be T003. But it's a surprise since I expected > distortion that I don't see. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Tom Fenwick wrote: >> Thanks Chuck. One of those people photos is through the cv 15mm lens >> being discussed in another thread. >> >> Tom >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 3 Apr 2009, at 22:57, Chuck wrote: >> >>> Congratulations. Lots of really nice people shots on the link >>> below. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>>> >>>> Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:41:25 2009 Received: (qmail 10821 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:41:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:41:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4B0E18301 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E379E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBD334AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF06134AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:41:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4072 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 22:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.180.177) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 22:41:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:41:08 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> In-Reply-To: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:41:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69095300951257536491 Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed feelings. Great idea! > One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. The US is bigger than Europe. As you say the trip is already booked, what areas will you be visiting? > On the other hand I am wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. Regular stories here about how tourism is down, adding to economic troubles. San Franciso and many surrounding areas depend heavily on tourist spending. They will have open arms and welcoming smiles if you show up. > I keep hearing stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, but Story - Way back when, I lived near the UC campus during the Free Speech Movement, Peoples Park protests and such events. For most of those years, I had a roommate in my apartment. After he had married and moved to S. Calif., he called one night to ask how we (I was also married, and in the same apartment) were doing with the riots. I said "Huh, what riots?" He'd been watching on TV as some fools turned over trash cans, started fires, smashed windows, and so on. He said the state governor had declared a state of emergency and a curfew for Berkeley. I said it was completely quiet on our street and we were about to go out to a concert in town. He said something like ' NO, no, Berkeley is burning. It's dangerous, you'll get arrested!" We went to our event, wished we had brought earplugs for the music, otherwise had a good time and went home. We saw no police, nor anything at all out of the ordinary. It turned out that, as "news" as entertainment purveyors are wont to do, the TV folks carefully chose camera angles to make a few, mostly drunk, folks making a mess on a couple of blocks of one street look like a major riot. And the newscaster's (term "news" in the context used with reservations) made it sound like it was the entire city. Lesson - Even someone who had been there during much greater disturbances was fooled by "news" reports. My own experience around my area is that things are pretty normal in a day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets busy, people are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to do, lives to live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, mid day, mid week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, and it seemed pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and consumables are still moving. We've eaten out a bit lately, as usual. It's hard to tell if restaurant business is down in the modest places we frequent, but there are certainly others also eating out when and where we are. Sure, more small businesses are probably in trouble or have failed lately than usual, but some are still starting up. We're really excited about at least one. The closest Starbuck's closed and a third branch of a small restaurant we love is opening in its place, much closer than the others. Whoopee! A much beloved local drug store and more upset lots of people when it closed recently. But they had embarked on a plan of expansion recently. I spent decades in the food and drug retail business. I thought they were taking big risks and in danger of failure even without an economic downturn. They went from one local store carefully tuned to a place that loved them to leasing and staffing separate offices and opening three new stores all in a short period. One of the new locations failed, as isn't uncommon (New store location and related areas were some of my specialties.) I'm sure they were stretched way too thin and over leveraged at that point. So sure, folks can blame it on the economy, but I think it was maybe 90% management error and 10% economy. If they had managed conservatively, no new office overhead, open one store at a time and get it profitable before the next, at least the original location would most likely still be operating. People are losing homes, but the number in tent cities in at least the vast majority of the country, is tiny. Most are finding alternate housing, not out on the streets. Our friend in mortgage trouble has been going back and forth with her lender, counselors, possible government programs, etc. for months. She's still in the house, although looking for a decent rental if she does have to go. But she is still eating, clothed, under a roof, driving around, etc. She's self employed, and business is down, but not out. In my immediate neighborhood, real estate sales are slower than normal, but houses are still selling for pretty much what they were going for before the meltdown. Again, news reports make it sound like the price losses are universal. I have yet to see a foreclosure sign in town. Not to say there aren't any, but they aren't everywhere. Too much talk, just to say come on over! Spend a little EuroCash, have a lovely time and do your small part to bolster the US economy. If you are near SF, I know a nice place in Berkeley with a pleasant guest room in a lovely, quiet neighborhood where you would be welcome to stay for free, leaving more money to spend on other things. ;-) > I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No way. They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:44:43 2009 Received: (qmail 15517 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:44:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61870E1830A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32404E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC9019F274 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:44:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6C319F270 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5585 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 22:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.180.177) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 22:44:09 -0000 Message-ID: <49D69136.4050608@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:44:06 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> <49D68BEC.5000706@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D68BEC.5000706@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:44:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6915b16989347015869 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > yes! > and YES Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 00:55:52 2009 Received: (qmail 8555 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 22:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 22:55:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E7BE18312 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A47E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF1134AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950D534AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22463 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 22:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 22:55:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49D693EF.70305@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:55:43 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 00:55:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d693f8117134673671140 Well, the mid-priced furniture stores were rather empty. But I didn't say anything about Nicks, our favorite Friday night pizza place. We usually go a little bit after 7 pm so that we have no wait or, at most, only a very brief wait. Last Friday it was jammed at 7 pm. I've never seen that many people there before. We even had to take an undesirable little table back in a corner. I'd say maybe those folks were moving down from the higher end restaurants around here... but, it can't be... we don't have any. :-) I guess pizza is comfort food. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > > My own experience around my area is that things are pretty normal in a > day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets busy, people > are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a > normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to do, lives to > live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than > others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty > discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, mid day, mid > week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, and it seemed > pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and consumables are > still moving. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:02:17 2009 Received: (qmail 18428 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:02:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:02:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EF8E18307 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA26E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4FC19F27A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D4819F250 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25597 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 2009 23:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 23:02:08 -0000 Message-ID: <49D6956F.9020508@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:02:07 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> <49D68BEC.5000706@chucknorcutt.com> <49D69136.4050608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D69136.4050608@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:02:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69579168778512572685 And that was written as I sit about 6 miles (as the crow flies) from the carnage reported at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, NY today. I'm waiting to hear the details. Stuff like that normally doesn't happen around here or mostly anywhere for that matter. My brother-in-law knows one of the higher level staff there but, from the little bit of detail given out so far it would appear that the students were the targets of perhaps another student. One wonders what can cause such hate and pre-meditation... first block the rear entrance with your car so no one can escape. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> yes! >> > > and YES > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:25:18 2009 Received: (qmail 26329 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:25:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:25:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B95E1830B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BD1E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D9934AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:25:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CDB34AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n33NP9kd001872 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:10 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <454B6FF8558342E3955F010C8034BF34@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com><49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com><578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com><49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:25:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69ade303203675314703 Chuck really has very good eyes, I just can't imagine it is T003, I thought it is 1001. BTW, I really like the people gallery. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fenwick" > That's the one - good call. The lens is basically distortion free on > the brick wall test, and the corner stretching doesn't really show on > landscapes. It's an incredible lens... But I've given all that m stuff > up. > > As I said to someone the other day, I gave up the leica when I saw > Philip Perkis' "The Sadness of Men" - the book I was hoping to put > together over the next 30 years :-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 3 Apr 2009, at 23:21, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> I assume that it must be T003. But it's a surprise since I expected >> distortion that I don't see. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>> Thanks Chuck. One of those people photos is through the cv 15mm lens >>> being discussed in another thread. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:30:53 2009 Received: (qmail 9045 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:30:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:30:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E69E182FD for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCBFE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F7819F32E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FC319F326 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28916 invoked by uid 502); 3 Apr 2009 23:30:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.194.97) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 3 Apr 2009 23:30:45 -0000 Message-ID: <49D69C19.3030809@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:30:33 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:30:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69c2d170882336821329 Chris Crawford wrote: > I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside Sacramento, > Ah yes, sigh. Do folks realize that Sacramento is the Capital of the 5-6th. biggest economy in the world? And that it has been, and is, in a very protracted political battle over its budget and especially how limited funds will be allocated. Sure, those folks are deserving of compassion and help. But the specific location of the tent city is almost certainly a matter of politics. > California. The city was trying to find someplace to house all the homeless people there, many of whom were middle class people who had lost their jobs, then their homes and everything else. Remember that in California housing is so drastically overpriced I'm sure that's what it looks like from where you are. From here, it looks like the houses in places that make sense to live in are all full of people. If they were overpriced, nobody would have bought them at those prices. I have new neighbors who paid an amount for the house that would undoubtedly make your eyes bug out. Sure, they could buy a mansion in Ft Wayne for that. But the job tha allows them to make the house payments is here, not there, and isn't going to be there in our lifetimes. There are certainly a lot of houses going for a fraction of what they were worth in some areas. The majority of them are in areas that shouldn't have been developed in the first place, oversized, yet shoddily built houses that were sold to folks who really couldn't afford them on the basis of unrealistic mortgage terms. The whole business was criminal, and not enough people will suffer for their part in it. I think some of the blame still rests with people who were foolish enough to to go along with the madness, making unrealistic commitments far beyond their means with no savings or other fall back position. Me, I refinanced to pay off the friend who I bought my house from so many years ago who wanted to get the remaining balance out of the loan she was carrying. And I went with a low interest, five year fixed, then adjustable rate loan. But I also calculated what the payments would be on the maximum the rate it could go up to and determined that I could make those payments - before signing up. So the rate went up for a year, and I spent more interest than before. Now the rate is down below what it started at. Hmmm... Have we seen any news stories about folks who were prudent enough to have the savings to weather a year or two of higher payments - and who are now paying LESS than before the meltdown crashed interest rates? Naw, good news doesn't raise ratings. Still, it was an aberration that doesn't mean much in the overall Calif. housing stock and market in the long run. With any luck, some of those stupid developments will be bulldozed and go back to their proper use as farmland. Lots of them, by the way, are in the corridor between the SF area and Sacramento. You can guess why the tent city ended up at the end of that corridor that it did. > that people can't keep the house unless they QUICKLY find a job paying nearly the same as the old job they lost. > Not to be a cynic, but how is that different from the situation of anyone, anywhere, with monthly housing costs, who is improvident enough not to have some rainy day money saved? Do people in Indiana who lose their jobs and can't make their mortgage or rent payments get to stay on for free? For good or ill, and I take no stand at all, we are still a largely non-socialist country. People who live their lives like that isn't true often suffer the consequences. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:42:09 2009 Received: (qmail 7129 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:42:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:42:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E937DE1830B for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0146EE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E724919F368 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100F019F363 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so595856fga.13 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:42:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.79.19 with SMTP id c19mr14902fgb.60.1238802119997; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <454B6FF8558342E3955F010C8034BF34@main> References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> <578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com> <49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> <454B6FF8558342E3955F010C8034BF34@main> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:42:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69ed1184497350615338 Thankyou! And you are not so far wrong - 1001, my friend with the big fig leaf, was the 24/2.8 zuiko - more distortion, and pointed at that steep slope, much more revealing corners. There is some interesting glass scattered about that people gallery. Ricoh GR1, Konica Hexar, Voigtlander 15/4.5, 25/4 35/1.7 and 2.5, Summicron 35 and 50, M-mount Nikkor 50/1.4 and 85/2, and Zuikos 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.2, 85/2 and 100/2.8. Anyone who can correctly identify them all can have the 50/1.2 for half price. If I ever sell it... I got rid of the whole lot except the Zuikos, Hexar and GR1. Tom 2009/4/4 C.H.Ling > Chuck really has very good eyes, I just can't imagine it is T003, I thought > it is 1001. > > BTW, I really like the people gallery. > > C.H.Ling > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:43:39 2009 Received: (qmail 16776 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:43:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5054AE18307 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65FBE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94AF34AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:43:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1979E34AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:43:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.251]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1216732rvf.50 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:43:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.176.4 with SMTP id d4mr767784rvp.253.1238802211671; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:43:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:43:31 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 54c3594e0e760f10 Message-ID: <60f983080904031643w20101da4o80a56709ed2375af@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:43:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69f2b282058512572685 Yup, I have to find a suitable 21mm lens for me ................ --- Michael 2009/4/4 C.H.Ling > For me, even 18mm is too wide, the problem is to find suitable subject to > shoot. I seldom use the 18, when I need superwide for special effects I > prefer my 16mm fisheye. > > For street I like 21 to 40mm - > > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/21F2/21street.htm > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iwert" > > > > Just crop :), But serious: enjoy the wide view and the newness! > > I like 3857, 3861, 3872 most. The last one because you're so close. > > I guess 15mm is really hard, I find the 18mm already very wide. > > My favourite wide for reportage is the 21f3.5 (if sunny): > > > > > > > > > > Iwert > > > > Op 3-apr-09, om 15:17 heeft Michael Wong het volgende geschreven: > > > >> Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > >> Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > >> fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko > >> 21mm F3.5. > >> The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > >> pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > >> > >> > >> Kodak TMAX 400, 20? + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > >> http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Michael > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:44:18 2009 Received: (qmail 17937 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:44:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:44:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A3FE182F0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34458E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244A134AC005 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A6D34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.249]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1216930rvf.50 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:44:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.33.19 with SMTP id l19mr6457rvj.209.1238802252193; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:44:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <501F9821-0EC4-4FF7-BC5C-59BBF4A46064@people.net.au> References: <60f983080904030617se4c8501te667c15d5a3621cf@mail.gmail.com> <501F9821-0EC4-4FF7-BC5C-59BBF4A46064@people.net.au> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:44:12 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 12502b272a76e393 Message-ID: <60f983080904031644k2a8bcf0fxffe12e3b64346cfe@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New toy: Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 Aspherical X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:44:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d69f5271501702588592 Thanks for your advice, Andrew :-) --- Michael 2009/4/4 Andrew Fildes > Don't get faces/heads in the corners! (Even worse with the 12mm!) > That's a terrific lens on the M8 with a 21mm finder (ignore frame). > And tiny, tiny, tiny. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 04/04/2009, at 12:17 AM, Michael Wong wrote: > > > Have got a new toy of Cosina Voigtlander Super Wide-Heliar 15mm F4.5 > > Aspherical. Never owned a super wide angle lens as 15mm (except 16mm > > fisheye). I remember that the widest angles lens I owned is Zuiko > > 21mm F3.5. > > The viewing is a great different. I have to learn how to composite the > > pictures with this super wide angle lens ........ ~_~ > > > > > > Kodak TMAX 400, 20$B!n(B + 7 mins, TMAX Developer > > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/CV15F45ASPH > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 01:59:49 2009 Received: (qmail 22203 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2009 23:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Apr 2009 23:59:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD89E18300 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A6D16E0002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D165934AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DD834AC005 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m26.mail.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c78.501205a9 (34932) for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 19:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.144]) by cia-da04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA045-5bab49d6a2bc14a; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:58:59 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MC19 (webmail-mc19.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.96]) by smtprly-da01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA012-5bab49d6a2bc14a; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:58:52 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:58:52 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 75.147.3.221 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42169-STANDARD Received: from 75.147.3.221 by WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.96) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 01:59:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6a2f537342046811720 Read on FM "anecdotal reports "of similar problems with the 50-250 like with the Z. 65-200 /4. I'm not sure I believe it as I I've never read about it here. Perhaps a few bad apples. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:07:33 2009 Received: (qmail 9030 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:07:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:07:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97DCE18201 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4929AE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012C219F3ED for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A439219F3E3 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:07:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c97.3dbd3dbb (37547) for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB028-5bb949d6a4b12bf; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:07:23 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MC19 (webmail-mc19.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.96]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA028-5bb949d6a4b12bf; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:07:14 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:07:14 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 75.147.3.221 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42169-STANDARD Received: from 75.147.3.221 by WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.96) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:07:13 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB82D071341B5C-105C-1B7C@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Trip to the US?, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:07:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6a4c592761234514069 If you are near Boston, give me a ping. Tourism is down a tad here but reserved New Englanders aren't any more surly than usual ;-) I've read the wait staff is even a bit less gruff than usual at Durgin-Park due to the down-turn. They'll soon ruin their long-standing reputation. There are plenty other places to eat, many wonderful---let me know. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:15:52 2009 Received: (qmail 8128 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:15:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:15:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF69CE182EE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA37316E0002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9111219F410 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:15:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEC519F400 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:15:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHJ006S1VDJBT90@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:15:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:15:19 -0300 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:15:18 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <1509C0760231470AAB77B5DACE513DA9@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgMACdD1kkY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBTIhjxDcHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,322,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="460913633" References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:15:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6a6b8287291342116753 Suggest that you re-direct your attention to Canada. Definitely a safer place and with no less attractive scenery. Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets ............. they have big shoot outs almost daily and today was no exception; 13 shot and killed in a not so quiet town in upstate New York. jh .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:21:54 2009 Received: (qmail 18425 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:21:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA87E182F4 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65137E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530E019F41A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:21:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601319F416 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:21:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHJ0063PVOCBIA0@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:21:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:21:47 -0300 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:21:48 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <51E111645D744E04A5E857D8E9E2C389@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgMAFNE1kkY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBTIhjxDMHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,322,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="448969695" References: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> <49D68BEC.5000706@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:21:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6a822156301702588592 Safe ................................????????? Better avoid Binghamton in up state New York !!! Until the US repeals the utterly idiotic 2nd amendment right to bear arms the country will continue to be a is centre of violence and mayhem. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > yes! > > Chuck Norcutt > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > I am merely asking will we be welcome and safe? >> >> Thanks for your time, >> >> Wiliam > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:34:21 2009 Received: (qmail 3537 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:34:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:34:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ADEE182FD for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22F0E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91D819F433 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3292419F42E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23908 invoked by uid 502); 4 Apr 2009 00:34:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.201.110) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 00:34:13 -0000 Message-ID: <49D6AB02.4060100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:34:10 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:34:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6ab0d130622070262475 usher99@aol.com wrote: > Read on FM "anecdotal reports "of similar problems with the 50-250 like with the Z. 65-200 /4. I'm not sure I believe it as I I've never read about it here. Perhaps a few bad apples. > Don't know about that, but it doesn't focus close enough. You wanna try my Tokina? Serious close focus. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:35:25 2009 Received: (qmail 22167 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:35:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C0BE182F0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDC1E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D06419F437 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08FC19F434 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHJ00L03WAWBIC0@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:35:20 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:35:20 -0300 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:35:21 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlgMABNI1kkY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBS4hjxBQHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,322,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="497710198" References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:35:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6ab4d27363675314703 Back on 21st July 2008 I was walking close to Stanage Pole in the Peak District west of Sheffield [England] when I met a local gentleman who was on home leave from his real estate development business in Sofia, Bulgaria. We had a pleasent conversation during which he recalled his last outbound trip from Sheffield driving his newly acquired BMW to Sofia. Looking at Tom's recent gallery of photos, including his self portrait, I am tempted to ask whether it was Tom who I met at Stanage Pole seen here http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/788.html The gravel road seen in the photo dates back to Roman times. Tom's self portrait immediately reminded me of the gentleman I met that day. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Fenwick" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: [OM] Confession > Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a > portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on > Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta > Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the > curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't > fail to be interesting! > > Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, > Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - > an exciting week for both of us! > > Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 > > Tom > > > > Sent from my iPhone > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:49:33 2009 Received: (qmail 21870 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:49:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:49:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E322E182F0 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F02E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059D619F44F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8E619F44C for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:49:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2865 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 00:49:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 00:49:25 -0000 Message-ID: <49D6AE94.70002@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:49:24 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com><49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com><578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com><49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> <454B6FF8558342E3955F010C8034BF34@main> In-Reply-To: <454B6FF8558342E3955F010C8034BF34@main> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:49:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6ae9d269385368819438 It wasn't hard. Just look at the total image height relative to the size of the people at the table. It had to have been taken very close to the table and an ultra-wide is the only thing that could take in that much more of the room. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > Chuck really has very good eyes, I just can't imagine it is T003, I thought > it is 1001. > > BTW, I really like the people gallery. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fenwick" > >> That's the one - good call. The lens is basically distortion free on >> the brick wall test, and the corner stretching doesn't really show on >> landscapes. It's an incredible lens... But I've given all that m stuff >> up. >> >> As I said to someone the other day, I gave up the leica when I saw >> Philip Perkis' "The Sadness of Men" - the book I was hoping to put >> together over the next 30 years :-) >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 3 Apr 2009, at 23:21, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> I assume that it must be T003. But it's a surprise since I expected >>> distortion that I don't see. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>>> Thanks Chuck. One of those people photos is through the cv 15mm lens >>>> being discussed in another thread. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:54:19 2009 Received: (qmail 16516 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:54:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:54:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC87E182F8 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452A3E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3740334AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:54:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98C634AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:54:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4449 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 00:54:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 00:54:12 -0000 Message-ID: <49D6AFB4.7020404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:54:12 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:54:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6afbb50551234514069 My 65-200 still hasn't come down with rear element rot. I'd guess I've had it for about 10 years so I guess it's not going to. It's only malady is zoom creep but I seem to recall that JH said there's a friction adjustment for that under the focusing rubber somewhere. Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > Read on FM "anecdotal reports "of similar problems with the 50-250 > like with the Z. 65-200 /4. I'm not sure I believe it as I I've > never read > about it here. Perhaps a few bad apples. > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 02:56:22 2009 Received: (qmail 24805 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 00:56:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 00:56:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D389FE18301 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E562DE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A295F19F45A for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2663119F439 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5176 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 00:56:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 00:56:13 -0000 Message-ID: <49D6B02C.10501@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:56:12 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 02:56:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6b036118942046811720 I've never heard of Stanage Pole but it's a nice shot. Chuck Norcutt John Hudson wrote: > Back on 21st July 2008 I was walking close to Stanage Pole in the Peak > District west of Sheffield [England] when I met a local gentleman who was on > home leave from his real estate development business in Sofia, Bulgaria. We > had a pleasent conversation during which he recalled his last outbound trip > from Sheffield driving his newly acquired BMW to Sofia. > > Looking at Tom's recent gallery of photos, including his self portrait, I am > tempted to ask whether it was Tom who I met at Stanage Pole seen here > > http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/788.html > > The gravel road seen in the photo dates back to Roman times. > > Tom's self portrait immediately reminded me of the gentleman I met that day. > > jh > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fenwick" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:36 PM > Subject: [OM] Confession > > >> Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a >> portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on >> Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta >> Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the >> curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't >> fail to be interesting! >> >> Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, >> Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - >> an exciting week for both of us! >> >> Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 03:07:50 2009 Received: (qmail 28105 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 01:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 01:07:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8E5E18300 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E573BE24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D872E34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BD234AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:07:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-015.ctimail.com [61.93.57.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3417hFP002785 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:07:43 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3417gm7003621 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:07:42 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <0CD66151EC9046258D965EE61EACB046@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> <49D6AB02.4060100@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:07:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 03:07:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6b2e6312211023412894 Don't know about the Tokina but the OM 50-250 is very sharp edge to edge. For serious close focus, I alway use fixed macro lenses, I don't think any zoom works as good. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" > usher99@aol.com wrote: >> Read on FM "anecdotal reports "of similar problems with the 50-250 >> like with the Z. 65-200 /4. I'm not sure I believe it as I I've never >> read about it here. Perhaps a few bad apples. >> > > Don't know about that, but it doesn't focus close enough. > > You wanna try my Tokina? Serious close focus. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 03:27:06 2009 Received: (qmail 19876 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 01:27:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 01:27:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BBAE18311 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3E8E24129 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049B934AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E2534AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (gmcgrath@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GMcGrath@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d50.4747d332 (14502) for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: GMcGrath@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:26:54 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5046 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 03:27:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6b76a261231823421471 Wiliam, By all means come and enjoy yourself! Tourism helps our economy out, and I'm sure you'll be welcome wherever you travel. Don't for a minute think that people will be upset because you can afford to travel...they'll be glad to see you. As some others have already posted, our news media tends to concentrate on the negative and the sensational, and it's not as bad everywhere as it is in some places. There are places in the US where you have to be careful or just shouldn't go, just as I'm sure there are some of those places in the Netherlands. Greg **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 05:38:32 2009 Received: (qmail 7838 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 03:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 03:38:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA04E18312 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AA6E2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE92F34AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3327E34AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olympus@thomasclausen.org whitelisted) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aste-genev-bois-153-1-50-22.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr ([81.249.144.22] helo=[192.168.147.106]) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Lpwi6-000KNS-GO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:38:22 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.249.144.22 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18/WmSDEtjnbIFshDZCW6Yu In-Reply-To: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> References: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:38:17 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 05:38:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6d638153477927319144 I'm not 'murican myself, but I've spend more than my share both in the USA and in California (which I still think of as a separate country) -- some of it rather recently, although for work and so in relatively major metropolitan areas. Couple of observations for you as to the only differences I've observed as a consequence of the crisis: o there're more people on the streets asking for / begging for money o the hospitality industry (read: hotels) still behave as if guests are made of gold o shopping is often bleeding cheap, as stores are closing out. I got an 80% discount on a new briefcase, which I had seen back home but dismissed as possible due to it being too expensive o my favorite Thai restaurant in San Francisco has closed up for good. Ruined my mood for a day or so last I was there, as I had really looked forward to my habitual scorched mouth. I'm sure that if you head into bad neighborhoods, dressed in gold and screaming "I own AIG, Lehman Brothers and GM!", then you may manage to get yourself into trouble. If you just do the usual touristy stuff, going to usually touristy places then -- frankly -- even in crisis-hit USA you'll be safe ;) They might even be welcoming to you too Now, Wiliam, as you have announced your vacation on the list, you know that you're required to show off photos to us all when you're back....? Thomas On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:10 , Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Yes Chris, > > That is the kind of tent cities I heard about too. I also read that > people first had to leave their homes and stores their inventory in a > storage facility. After a few months of non payments for the storage > their inventory was auctioned off. > > Thanks for your first answer also. I know there is hardly anything I > could have done to cause the current or to help stop it for that > matter. > I am not looking for an explanation for what happened, nor am I trying > to find a scapegoat. I am merely asking will we be welcome and safe? > > Thanks for your time, > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com] >> Verzonden: vrijdag 3 april 2009 23:53 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside >> Sacramento, California. The city was trying to find someplace >> to house all the homeless people there, many of whom were >> middle class people who had lost their jobs, then their homes >> and everything else. Remember that in California housing is >> so drastically overpriced that people can't keep the house >> unless they QUICKLY find a job paying nearly the same as the >> old job they lost. >> >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-747-3962 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >> >> >> >> On 4/3/09 5:49 PM, "Sue Pearce" wrote: >> >>> Tent cities? Where? >>> Bill Pearce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:34 PM >>> Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? >>> >>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> >>>> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming >>>> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having >>>> mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about >> preparing for the >>>> trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am >>>> wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing >>>> stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer >> being able to >>>> pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to >> live in tent >>>> cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, >> but I feel >>>> like we might offend people because we are able to have a >> holiday in >>>> the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores >> more staff >>>> was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the >>>> thoughts about this on the list? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and >> please believe >>>> me I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >>>> >>>> Wiliam >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >>> -------- >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.40/2039 - Release Date: >>> 04/03/09 06:19:00 >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 05:42:05 2009 Received: (qmail 4197 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 03:42:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 03:42:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE05E18307 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55787E2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D5E19F5EF for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7D619F5EE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (thomas@thomasclausen.org whitelisted) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aste-genev-bois-153-1-50-22.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr ([81.249.144.22] helo=[192.168.147.106]) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Lpwlc-000L8Y-9B for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:42:00 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.249.144.22 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19dN1fbz4cbONkDGepsCf8x Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> Message-Id: <2932FD66-CC57-4486-8D7D-E50E61995675@ThomasClausen.org> From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:41:57 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 05:42:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6d70d137971035110158 On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:41 , Moose wrote: >> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a >> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some >> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. >> What are the thoughts about this on the list? >> > > So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No > way. > They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) But. nobody vacations in Best Buy anyways -- and didn't they go out of business as well? :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 05:49:58 2009 Received: (qmail 17267 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 03:49:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 03:49:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD587E182FB for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E2E2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF30D34AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF1234AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olympus@thomasclausen.org whitelisted) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aste-genev-bois-153-1-50-22.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr ([81.249.144.22] helo=[192.168.147.106]) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LpwtF-000MqJ-0l for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:49:53 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.249.144.22 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/ANDBZlXUXw3gsATHTNzxU In-Reply-To: <51E111645D744E04A5E857D8E9E2C389@hudson> References: <30065B0A1EBE4100927A145387F90B66@wiliam> <49D68BEC.5000706@chucknorcutt.com> <51E111645D744E04A5E857D8E9E2C389@hudson> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <790F7057-C35E-4376-9B32-180F3485FFD8@thomasclausen.org> From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:49:49 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: [OM] [LIST-MUM] No gun-talk, PLEASE Re: Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 05:49:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6d8e6265951869477228 On 4Apr , 2009, at 02:21 , someone wrote: > Safe ................................????????? > > Better avoid Binghamton in up state New York !!! > > Until the US repeals the utterly idiotic 2nd amendment right to > bear arms > the country will continue to be a is centre of violence and mayhem. I'm not siding with anyone on this matter, however the issue of firearms has long been known as a contentious subject, and which in the past has lead to some falling out on the list. I conclude two things: o there are different opinions on the matter, and that's OK o reconciling and even discussing those is entirely off-topic for this list So let's try to stay clear of this particular topic, shall we? Thanks, The List Mum. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 06:36:19 2009 Received: (qmail 5297 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 04:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 04:36:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2F2E182EB for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C84DE2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5891034AC004 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1969534AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50175 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lpxc4-0006xC-My for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:36:12 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:36:11 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm03uEnH3wdEiDSEd68TgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <2932FD66-CC57-4486-8D7D-E50E61995675@ThomasClausen.org> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 06:36:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6e3c3291761744846740 Nope, Best Buy is still alive and open. Circuit City is the American electronics store chain that went under recently. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/3/09 11:41 PM, "Thomas Heide Clausen" wrote: > > On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:41 , Moose wrote: > > > >>> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a >>> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some >>> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. >>> What are the thoughts about this on the list? >>> >> >> So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No >> way. >> They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) > > But. nobody vacations in Best Buy anyways -- and didn't they go out > of business as well? :) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 07:18:17 2009 Received: (qmail 2160 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8E2E18304 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B37E2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5F034AC002 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:18:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E36834AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:18:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 212-166-168-40.red-acceso.airtel.net ([212.166.168.40]:49166) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LpyGa-0000PP-Iv (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 05:18:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> Message-Id: From: Nathan Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:18:00 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 07:18:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6ed9933822046811720 What Moose has described can also be applied to Spain. In my daily life it is hard to see outward signs of the crisis, except all the unsold houses and apartments--but they were there before as well. Yes, unemployment is up to 15%, the highest rate in the EU, but that still means that 85% continue to go to work every day etc. Same with restaurants, people still go out, although from chatting with a couple of the owners, business is down somewhat. It is important to keep a sense of perspective. Nathan On 04/04/2009, at 0:41, Moose wrote: > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having >> mixed feelings. > > Great idea! > >> One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and >> wanting to ask you what to visit. > > The US is bigger than Europe. As you say the trip is already booked, > what areas will you be visiting? > >> On the other hand I am wondering how welcome tourists are at the >> moment. > > Regular stories here about how tourism is down, adding to economic > troubles. San Franciso and many surrounding areas depend heavily on > tourist spending. They will have open arms and welcoming smiles if you > show up. > >> I keep hearing stories about people loosing their jobs and no >> longer being able to pay their mortgage and >> loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that >> staying at home will not help anybody, but > > Story - Way back when, I lived near the UC campus during the Free > Speech > Movement, Peoples Park protests and such events. For most of those > years, I had a roommate in my apartment. After he had married and > moved > to S. Calif., he called one night to ask how we (I was also > married, and > in the same apartment) were doing with the riots. I said "Huh, what > riots?" He'd been watching on TV as some fools turned over trash cans, > started fires, smashed windows, and so on. > > He said the state governor had declared a state of emergency and a > curfew for Berkeley. I said it was completely quiet on our street > and we > were about to go out to a concert in town. He said something like ' > NO, > no, Berkeley is burning. It's dangerous, you'll get arrested!" We went > to our event, wished we had brought earplugs for the music, otherwise > had a good time and went home. We saw no police, nor anything at > all out > of the ordinary. > > It turned out that, as "news" as entertainment purveyors are wont > to do, > the TV folks carefully chose camera angles to make a few, mostly > drunk, > folks making a mess on a couple of blocks of one street look like a > major riot. And the newscaster's (term "news" in the context used with > reservations) made it sound like it was the entire city. > > Lesson - Even someone who had been there during much greater > disturbances was fooled by "news" reports. > > My own experience around my area is that things are pretty normal in a > day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets busy, > people > are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a > normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to do, lives to > live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than > others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty > discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, mid day, > mid > week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, and it > seemed > pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and consumables are > still moving. > > We've eaten out a bit lately, as usual. It's hard to tell if > restaurant > business is down in the modest places we frequent, but there are > certainly others also eating out when and where we are. Sure, more > small > businesses are probably in trouble or have failed lately than > usual, but > some are still starting up. We're really excited about at least > one. The > closest Starbuck's closed and a third branch of a small restaurant we > love is opening in its place, much closer than the others. Whoopee! > > A much beloved local drug store and more upset lots of people when it > closed recently. But they had embarked on a plan of expansion > recently. > I spent decades in the food and drug retail business. I thought they > were taking big risks and in danger of failure even without an > economic > downturn. They went from one local store carefully tuned to a place > that > loved them to leasing and staffing separate offices and opening three > new stores all in a short period. One of the new locations failed, as > isn't uncommon (New store location and related areas were some of my > specialties.) I'm sure they were stretched way too thin and over > leveraged at that point. So sure, folks can blame it on the > economy, but > I think it was maybe 90% management error and 10% economy. If they had > managed conservatively, no new office overhead, open one store at a > time > and get it profitable before the next, at least the original location > would most likely still be operating. > > People are losing homes, but the number in tent cities in at least the > vast majority of the country, is tiny. Most are finding alternate > housing, not out on the streets. Our friend in mortgage trouble has > been > going back and forth with her lender, counselors, possible government > programs, etc. for months. She's still in the house, although looking > for a decent rental if she does have to go. But she is still eating, > clothed, under a roof, driving around, etc. She's self employed, and > business is down, but not out. > > In my immediate neighborhood, real estate sales are slower than > normal, > but houses are still selling for pretty much what they were going for > before the meltdown. Again, news reports make it sound like the price > losses are universal. I have yet to see a foreclosure sign in town. > Not > to say there aren't any, but they aren't everywhere. > > Too much talk, just to say come on over! Spend a little EuroCash, > have a > lovely time and do your small part to bolster the US economy. If > you are > near SF, I know a nice place in Berkeley with a pleasant guest room > in a > lovely, quiet neighborhood where you would be welcome to stay for > free, > leaving more money to spend on other things. ;-) > >> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a >> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some >> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. >> What are the thoughts about this on the list? >> > > So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No > way. > They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 07:40:33 2009 Received: (qmail 8462 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 05:40:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 05:40:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85423E18309 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E2CE2412E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE8934AC003 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1302034AC001 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 22:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 212-166-168-40.red-acceso.airtel.net ([212.166.168.40]:49279) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LpycC-0006Gr-EU (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 05:40:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: <1510C2B5-8647-4AD1-8E8B-8066E3B6EB42@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:40:20 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 07:40:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d6f2d1298971529615919 I have this lens and have not had any problems with it. I use it to shoot sports with my E3. Nathan On 04/04/2009, at 1:58, usher99@aol.com wrote: > Read on FM "anecdotal reports "of similar problems with the 50-250 > like with the Z. 65-200 /4. I'm not sure I believe it as I I've > never read > about it here. Perhaps a few bad apples. > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 09:00:30 2009 Received: (qmail 26138 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 07:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 07:00:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4F5E18311 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362EAE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA0619F7CE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:00:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A1119F7CB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:00:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olympus@thomasclausen.org whitelisted) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.71]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aste-genev-bois-153-1-50-22.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr ([81.249.144.22] helo=[192.168.147.106]) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Lpzra-000EKv-OP for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:00:22 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 81.249.144.22 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+lRuFhG3H3Sj2ke01USHet Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4CE5019A-B320-4531-B19E-534A079068C9@thomasclausen.org> From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:00:19 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 09:00:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7058e185211342116753 On 4Apr , 2009, at 06:36 , Chris Crawford wrote: > Nope, Best Buy is still alive and open. Didn't you forget the "yet" at the end of this sentence ;) > Circuit City is the American > electronics store chain that went under recently. Ahh, right. Considering that BB is alive and CC is not, can I then assume that the BB sales staff is even more pushy than their CC counterparts were? :) Thomas > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 4/3/09 11:41 PM, "Thomas Heide Clausen" > wrote: > >> >> On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:41 , Moose wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a >>>> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some >>>> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. >>>> What are the thoughts about this on the list? >>>> >>> >>> So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No >>> way. >>> They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) >> >> But. nobody vacations in Best Buy anyways -- and didn't they go out >> of business as well? :) >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 10:13:45 2009 Received: (qmail 19772 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 08:13:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 08:13:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1BE182E9 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E035416E0002 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC2734AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:13:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD334AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:13:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl36.gs02.gridserver.com (cl36.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.45]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50259 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl36.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lq10T-0004y3-01 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:13:37 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 04:13:35 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm0/T/8flmnvCDwEd66XQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <4CE5019A-B320-4531-B19E-534A079068C9@thomasclausen.org> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 10:13:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d716b9113671993019900 No, I don't think they are. Circuit City had a lot of problems, and a couple years ago they fired all of their sales people, because the old staff was decently paid (around $12 an hour), while the company replaced them with people making only $6 an hour. It made the company look bad and they lost a lot of business because of it. In many parts of the USA, including Indiana (where I live), a person can survive on $12 an hour. Note that I said survive, not get rich or even be middle class. But you can live. No one, anywhere in the USA, no matter how low the cost of living, can eat every day and have even the most modest dwelling on $6 an hour. It is poverty wages, and it is what most retailers pay here. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/4/09 3:00 AM, "Thomas Heide Clausen" wrote: > > On 4Apr , 2009, at 06:36 , Chris Crawford wrote: > >> Nope, Best Buy is still alive and open. > > Didn't you forget the "yet" at the end of this sentence ;) > >> Circuit City is the American >> electronics store chain that went under recently. > > Ahh, right. Considering that BB is alive and CC is not, can I then > assume that the BB sales staff is even more pushy than their CC > counterparts were? :) > > Thomas > > >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-747-3962 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >> >> >> >> On 4/3/09 11:41 PM, "Thomas Heide Clausen" >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:41 , Moose wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a >>>>> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some >>>>> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. >>>>> What are the thoughts about this on the list? >>>>> >>>> >>>> So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No >>>> way. >>>> They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) >>> >>> But. nobody vacations in Best Buy anyways -- and didn't they go out >>> of business as well? :) >>> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 10:33:32 2009 Received: (qmail 4258 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 08:33:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 08:33:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063DCE1830C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615E2E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA3F19DD23 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441C119DD18 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.148]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so263372eyb.26 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr1600594ebd.32.1238834003745; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.102? (cpc1-leed2-0-0-cust917.leed.cable.ntl.com [81.104.187.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm4008732eya.46.2009.04.04.01.33.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:33:11 +0100 References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 10:33:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d71b5c47843675314703 John, Nice shot. I have climbed there, and at Froggat, Dovedale etc, but it wasn't me... My trips to Bulgaria have all been socially and photographically motivated, although since my (very great) friend with the big nose is an architect and several of his friends are lawyers there is always the possibility of some joint venture. At the moment we're holding off until there is a little more certainty about what is likely to be a good idea..! I would very much like to drive there, but more likely in a skoda than a beemer :-) Tom Sent from my iPhone On 4 Apr 2009, at 01:35, John Hudson wrote: > Back on 21st July 2008 I was walking close to Stanage Pole in the Peak > District west of Sheffield [England] when I met a local gentleman > who was on > home leave from his real estate development business in Sofia, > Bulgaria. We > had a pleasent conversation during which he recalled his last > outbound trip > from Sheffield driving his newly acquired BMW to Sofia. > > Looking at Tom's recent gallery of photos, including his self > portrait, I am > tempted to ask whether it was Tom who I met at Stanage Pole seen here > > http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/788.html > > The gravel road seen in the photo dates back to Roman times. > > Tom's self portrait immediately reminded me of the gentleman I met > that day. > > jh > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Fenwick" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:36 PM > Subject: [OM] Confession > > >> Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a >> portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on >> Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta >> Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the >> curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't >> fail to be interesting! >> >> Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, >> Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - >> an exciting week for both of us! >> >> Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 11:06:54 2009 Received: (qmail 20606 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 09:06:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 09:06:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B95E182FF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D29AE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1BA34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:06:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A81634AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1237992bwz.14 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:06:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.36.17 with SMTP id j17mr381991fgj.1.1238836006714; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:06:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D6AE94.70002@chucknorcutt.com> References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D68662.3050009@chucknorcutt.com> <578A00AD-0E36-43D8-9404-742A1E6EDBD2@gmail.com> <49D68BCC.6030801@chucknorcutt.com> <454B6FF8558342E3955F010C8034BF34@main> <49D6AE94.70002@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:06:46 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 11:06:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7232e111771529615919 Oops - my mistake. Somehow I thought c003 (mate with big nose atop mountain on Skye) was t003 - that one you've been tricked - I was standing on the back of dan's chair looking down. I think that one's a zuiko - maybe 24? Sent from my iPhone On 4 Apr 2009, at 01:49, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > It wasn't hard. Just look at the total image height relative to the > size of the people at the table. It had to have been taken very close > to the table and an ultra-wide is the only thing that could take in > that > much more of the room. > > Chuck Norcutt > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Chuck really has very good eyes, I just can't imagine it is T003, I >> thought >> it is 1001. >> >> BTW, I really like the people gallery. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Fenwick" >> >>> That's the one - good call. The lens is basically distortion free on >>> the brick wall test, and the corner stretching doesn't really show >>> on >>> landscapes. It's an incredible lens... But I've given all that m >>> stuff >>> up. >>> >>> As I said to someone the other day, I gave up the leica when I saw >>> Philip Perkis' "The Sadness of Men" - the book I was hoping to put >>> together over the next 30 years :-) >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 3 Apr 2009, at 23:21, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> >>>> I assume that it must be T003. But it's a surprise since I >>>> expected >>>> distortion that I don't see. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>>>> Thanks Chuck. One of those people photos is through the cv 15mm >>>>> lens >>>>> being discussed in another thread. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 11:59:36 2009 Received: (qmail 30877 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 09:59:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 09:59:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407FAE18314 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712ECE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFFD34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BEA34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 02:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7BBCBD57 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:23:19 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <167C7165-ECF4-4588-B80D-89E8F8A84E91@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:59:27 +0100 References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 11:59:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d72f88285898512572685 Well done, Tom. That sounds like deserved recognition. And I like the People gallery as well, and not just because that nice lady (your sister?) is in some of them. ":-) Chris On 3 Apr 2009, at 22:36, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a > portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on > Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta > Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the > curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't > fail to be interesting! > > Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, > Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - > an exciting week for both of us! > > Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 12:09:26 2009 Received: (qmail 8145 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 10:09:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 10:09:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2A0E18316 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7251AE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3880119DF5E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:09:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DAB19DF5B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:09:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so43429fge.13 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:09:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.70.3 with SMTP id s3mr1614941fga.78.1238839756105; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:09:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <167C7165-ECF4-4588-B80D-89E8F8A84E91@threeshoes.net> References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <167C7165-ECF4-4588-B80D-89E8F8A84E91@threeshoes.net> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:09:16 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 12:09:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d731d6210491342116753 Thanks Chris. I am not sure how much recognition is involved - anyone can apply to book a session, but I don't know how much of an element of queue jumping based on interest is involved. The main thing for me was having the b*lls to apply, I think, and as I still see the project as a beginning I think whatever they have to say about it will be very useful. This one is my sister - indeed well represented in the gallery: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/87752611 Everyone else in there, apart from one or two random grabs out and about, is dear to me for one reason or another. In fact even those I don't know probably qualify just for appearing in a picture I am proud of. Thanks again, Tom 2009/4/4 Chris Barker > Well done, Tom. That sounds like deserved recognition. > > And I like the People gallery as well, and not just because that nice > lady (your sister?) is in some of them. ":-) > > Chris > > On 3 Apr 2009, at 22:36, Tom Fenwick wrote: > > > Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a > > portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on > > Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta > > Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the > > curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't > > fail to be interesting! > > > > Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, > > Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - > > an exciting week for both of us! > > > > Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 15:26:33 2009 Received: (qmail 17360 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 13:26:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 13:26:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2A8E1830A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B07E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8052119E405 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:26:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAEC19E3C3 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:26:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@m93.myzen.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.155.39.109] (helo=[192.168.1.64]) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lq5tA-00017Y-8a for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:26:24 +0000 Message-ID: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:26:24 +0100 From: Martyn Smoothy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [217.155.39.109] Subject: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 15:26:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7600939441838542571 Hi, I realise it won't do any good..... :-( just wanted to draw the attention of UK members to the petition on photo restrictions in the latest counter terrorism diktat - http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Photorestrict/ "On the 16th of February, the Government passed a law (in the Counter Terrorism Act) making it illegal to take a photograph of a police office, military personnel or member of the intelligence services - or a photograph which "may be of use for terrorism". This definition is vague at best, and open to interpretation by the police - who under Home Secretary guidelines can "restrict photography in public places". We call for these vague restrictions to be lifted, as they can easily be mis-used by the police." Only takes a minute or so to sign up... should you wish to...... Regards - Martyn Smoothy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 15:46:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25573 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 13:46:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 13:46:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C40E18309 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383A4E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209CE19E496 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB6019E489 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090404134601.WWNA12725.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:46:01 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id bRlz1b00G4Z9Gks02RlzkB; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:46:00 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ScFMVNA_IMdVKa4rsPEA:9 a=_6KwUracx8Rpi2hgWEw0AYbkoQMA:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <000E96E499DB480799498FCF2125CD6F@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4CE5019A-B320-4531-B19E-534A079068C9@thomasclausen.org> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 15:46:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7649d272483675314703 > Ahh, right. Considering that BB is alive and CC is not, can I then > assume that the BB sales staff is even more pushy than their CC > counterparts were? :) Not really. My experience is that CC employees were not pushy, and if fact not at all helpful. BB employees, not being on commission, are generally helpful, and generally not at all pushy, but seem to have better knowlege about their product, except when they put a DX lens on a D700. BIll Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 15:46:37 2009 Received: (qmail 29923 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 13:46:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 13:46:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802AEE182FF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F382BE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3CFF19E489 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0891719E496 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CBC463A87 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:07:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <9785B490-9820-4973-9E16-782E8C689898@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:46:14 +0100 References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 15:46:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d764bd124231993019900 Thanks, Martyn. I despair of the willingness of the Government to acquiesce to the installation of more and more "security" measures ... Chris On 4 Apr 2009, at 14:26, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > Hi, > > I realise it won't do any good..... :-( > > just wanted to draw the attention of UK members to the petition on > photo > restrictions in the latest counter terrorism diktat - > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Photorestrict/ > > "On the 16th of February, the Government passed a law (in the Counter > Terrorism Act) making it illegal to take a photograph of a police > office, military personnel or member of the intelligence services - > or a > photograph which "may be of use for terrorism". This definition is > vague > at best, and open to interpretation by the police - who under Home > Secretary guidelines can "restrict photography in public places". We > call for these vague restrictions to be lifted, as they can easily be > mis-used by the police." > > Only takes a minute or so to sign up... should you wish to...... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 15:48:44 2009 Received: (qmail 27327 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 13:48:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 13:48:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B131DE1830E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EF4E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B82519E49B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DDE19E496 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090404134836.YAHO1731.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:48:36 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id bRoc1b00F4Z9Gks02RocAa; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:48:37 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=K3eOLG0rAAAA:8 a=pJo66KLIAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=V-iMmJZccKRfaRUOSPwA:9 a=3vwp9agDYZAI9Or7ii4A:7 a=QhptMGIDEflb__acqcvKZFcrLDsA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=BKM11Qb7CVIA:10 a=Qmq8LIWCQqsA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:48:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 15:48:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7653c51465368819438 I thought at the time that that move might backfire on them. Frnakly, though, I though that most employees there were overpaid at 6, not to mention 12. They seemed to be a place for folks that couldn't get on at McDonalds. Not to mention that their prices wern't competetive. billl Pearce > No, I don't think they are. Circuit City had a lot of problems, and a > couple > years ago they fired all of their sales people, because the old staff was > decently paid (around $12 an hour), while the company replaced them with > people making only $6 an hour. It made the company look bad and they lost > a > lot of business because of it. In many parts of the USA, including Indiana > (where I live), a person can survive on $12 an hour. Note that I said > survive, not get rich or even be middle class. But you can live. No one, > anywhere in the USA, no matter how low the cost of living, can eat every > day > and have even the most modest dwelling on $6 an hour. It is poverty wages, > and it is what most retailers pay here. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 4/4/09 3:00 AM, "Thomas Heide Clausen" > wrote: > >> >> On 4Apr , 2009, at 06:36 , Chris Crawford wrote: >> >>> Nope, Best Buy is still alive and open. >> >> Didn't you forget the "yet" at the end of this sentence ;) >> >>> Circuit City is the American >>> electronics store chain that went under recently. >> >> Ahh, right. Considering that BB is alive and CC is not, can I then >> assume that the BB sales staff is even more pushy than their CC >> counterparts were? :) >> >> Thomas >> >> >>> >>> -- >>> Chris Crawford >>> Fine Art Photography >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>> 260-747-3962 >>> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>> >>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/3/09 11:41 PM, "Thomas Heide Clausen" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:41 , Moose wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a >>>>>> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some >>>>>> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot be good. >>>>>> What are the thoughts about this on the list? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show up? No >>>>> way. >>>>> They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) >>>> >>>> But. nobody vacations in Best Buy anyways -- and didn't they go out >>>> of business as well? :) >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2040 - Release Date: 04/03/09 17:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 16:25:10 2009 Received: (qmail 21788 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 14:25:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 14:25:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D63BE182ED for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0B7E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A302734AC045 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3700334AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.69]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 76333 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Apr 2009 14:25:03 -0000 Message-ID: <662585.76055.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: k_XZ_boVM1m7.hK5klnNe4_M0kfDpkrvh4.GGG_ke.yhKeuIcX1ESQ0OjXVednIPVJKHW6FXBXaKhwGPc8ofPUYFmlJSVKrK1pf3oiOy1Cyu9_S09K1.cGoqXj30DuxOKAEXM_uAuVH0gN4gA5Q4B_uCA64b_Rj3dvETcMo_QGKjlCeLHaCt78SQRJh7CL_07T07Q8QRN0a8OJnPDubjBCJfB1OUUuIvfaJ_BfBUICOOzQgN8mnL0nAjHwDtm0hBVDEYNaG0GnQBuQo- Received: from [69.204.7.197] by web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:25:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 16:25:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d76dc698951993019900 Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I have a friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. You'll be in close proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away from NYC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 16:55:18 2009 Received: (qmail 27293 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 14:55:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 14:55:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABBCE1830C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FD7E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE5634AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146F634AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:55:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Lq7H5-00078F-Bw for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:55:11 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lq7H5-0008UU-1w for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:55:11 +0100 Message-ID: <49D774E9.5020407@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:55:37 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 16:55:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d774d6197011023412894 Martyn Smoothy wrote: > Hi, > > I realise it won't do any good..... :-( > You're right, but I did it anyway. Cheers, Martyn. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 16:59:49 2009 Received: (qmail 28904 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 14:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 14:59:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D255E182E7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE440E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B72C19E657 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C79519E62A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:59:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (smtp03.online.nl [194.134.41.33]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AD96829C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:59:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:59:40 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:59:39 +0200 Message-ID: <340D2E918C7F44E19024DFB5A6A084D4@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D68AAE.5050705@chucknorcutt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp03.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 16:59:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d775e520591823421471 Thanks for your extensive answer Chuck. I just wanted to know how the locals feel the situation is and you surely made me more comfortable already. Maybe the journalists worldwide want to make us believe everythuing is worse than it is in reality. I won't be travelling by train, so that is no concern. Here I travel by train to work (2 hours each way) daily, so not going by train does not bother em unless I will suffer from withdrawel ;-) Thanks again, Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 0:16 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > The local unemployment rate is 9.2% which is higher than the national > average which is about 8.5% at the moment. I won't say there are no > tent cities (I know Flagler county, Florida is at 14% > unemployment) but > I surely haven't seen any... and I just left Florida 4 weeks ago. > > I think your worries are entirely misplaced. Come and bring > plenty of > money. There are plenty of people who will be most happy to help you > spend it and are polite enough not to bite the hand that's helping to > feed them. Seriously, many of the places you are likely to visit are > largely supported by tourist dollars. The problem right now is that > there are not enough of you. Come on over!!! > > So, what do you think you'd like to see? And how do you want to get > there? By air or by car? I wouldn't recommend rail. There is some > rail travel in the US but it's limited and expensive. I > consider myself > a modest expert now having just circumnavigated most of the > country by > car. 11,508 miles in about 45 days. Cost was approx. $8,000 for all > food, fuel and lodging for two people and my 23.5 miles per gallon > Buick. But gas is cheaper today than it was then and car rental is > probably low cost right now. Lodging wouldn't cost any more > to include > a couple young kids. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > > mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the > > trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am > > wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > > stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to > > pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to > live in tent > > cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, > but I feel > > like we might offend people because we are able to have a > holiday in > > the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores > more staff > > was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are > the thoughts > > about this on the list? > > > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please > believe me > > I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > > > Wiliam > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:02:12 2009 Received: (qmail 6088 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:02:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286B4E182FD for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CE7E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3819E672 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F2D19E606 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (smtp06.online.nl [194.134.42.51]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBAD961E1 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:02:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:02:05 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:02:04 +0200 Message-ID: <0BA48101287F4A6E9901EE39DC8F4FF0@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:02:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77674302231257536491 Thanks Chris. I will most likely spend some dollars while there and hope to be able to help the economy even with the little money I will spend (in relation to the total dificit I mean) Thanks, Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com] > Verzonden: vrijdag 3 april 2009 23:44 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I think you'll feel welcome. Some parts of the USA depend > very heavily on tourism for their economy (Florida, for > example), and even in other areas, tourists who come and > spend money help local people keep their jobs. I don't think > anyone here hates foreign tourists who have money, it is our > own political and corporate leaders who have sold out our > country and they are the objects of hatred for those > suffering. We know who did this to us, and it wasn't you or > anyone else outside the USA. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/3/09 5:34 PM, "Wiliam Wagenaar" wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the > trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am > wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to > pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent > cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel > like we might offend people because we are able to have a holiday in > the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores more staff > was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the thoughts > about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me > I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:02:57 2009 Received: (qmail 7005 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:02:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:02:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D829DE182FF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49EE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0140F34AC045 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431C634AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2AFA26A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:02:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:02:45 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:02:44 +0200 Message-ID: <341EB177447945A8AA73BDB0F4F329C4@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:02:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d776a178961744846740 Thanks Darin, Ik hope to spend dollars and a very nice time while there. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Darin [mailto:d.rhein@comcast.net] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 0:09 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I whole heartedly agree with everything Chris said! Anyone > who would blame > our economic problems on tourists, has a very loose grip on > the reallity of > the situation. So by all means, come, spend money and have a > great visit! > > Darin > > Wiliam Wagenaar: > > Hi guys, > > > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > > mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the > > trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am > > wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > > stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to > > pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to > live in tent > > cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, > but I feel > > like we might offend people because we are able to have a > holiday in > > the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores > more staff > > was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are > the thoughts > > about this on the list? > > > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please > believe me > > I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > > > Wiliam > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:12:50 2009 Received: (qmail 14312 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:12:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427A0E182EB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10547E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0238934AC054 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A7734AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Lq7Y4-0004Ty-Qw for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:12:44 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Lq7Y4-0005PF-Dw for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:12:44 +0100 Message-ID: <49D77907.1020103@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:13:11 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <340D2E918C7F44E19024DFB5A6A084D4@wiliam> In-Reply-To: <340D2E918C7F44E19024DFB5A6A084D4@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:12:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d778f2214722336821329 Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Thanks for your extensive answer Chuck. I just wanted to know how the > locals feel the situation is and you surely made me more comfortable > already. > > Echoing what I just said with regard to Martyn's email, Wiliam, there are problems everywhere; I could probably come up with plenty of reasons not to come to the UK, for that matter. Plenty of reasons, also, to come. I probably won't be going to the US anytime soon, nothing to do with the economics or even the remote possibility of being shot. I may even be restricted to internal travel, unless pressured by the wife, when my passport comes up for renewal. Too many people want a piece of you now, I'm uncomfortable with air travel, removing my shoes, being shoved about with impunity generally treated like a suspect. Better get that safari in soon... D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:24:34 2009 Received: (qmail 20017 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:24:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:24:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5241E182FD for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C83E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3797A34AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:24:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B8734AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567D4A212 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:24:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:24:25 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:24:24 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D69084.9060806@gmail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:24:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77bb2310771035110158 Thanks Moose, You went out of your way to give an extensive answer. I feel I will be more welcome than I thought, even getting invitations like that. Reading your story about way back then makes me think that maybe the press exagerates all problems just for the sake of the message. Not that bad news does not exist, but they can make it sound even worse. Thanks very much for the invitewe might actually have the opportunity to meet as we will indeed visit SF too. Staying over at your place will not be neccesary though, as for that part of the trip we will be travelling by RV. Som guidance as to the places to visit might be very helpfull though. I will mail the travel plans shortly. You are absolutely right that businesses have had to close before the recession also. Of course it is the same over here. Unemployment is up, although luckily not as much as in most of the US or Spain as Nathan pointed out. To the people still at work it does not do much harm most of the time. We just have to count our blessings for still having a job ;-) Thanks again. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Moose [mailto:olymoose@gmail.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 0:41 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > > mixed feelings. > > Great idea! > > > One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip > and wanting > > to ask you what to visit. > > The US is bigger than Europe. As you say the trip is already booked, > what areas will you be visiting? > > > On the other hand I am wondering how welcome tourists are at the > > moment. > > Regular stories here about how tourism is down, adding to economic > troubles. San Franciso and many surrounding areas depend heavily on > tourist spending. They will have open arms and welcoming > smiles if you > show up. > > > I keep hearing stories about people loosing their jobs and > no longer > > being able to pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. > Some have to > > live in tent cities. I know that staying at home will not help > > anybody, but > > Story - Way back when, I lived near the UC campus during the > Free Speech > Movement, Peoples Park protests and such events. For most of those > years, I had a roommate in my apartment. After he had married > and moved > to S. Calif., he called one night to ask how we (I was also > married, and > in the same apartment) were doing with the riots. I said "Huh, what > riots?" He'd been watching on TV as some fools turned over > trash cans, > started fires, smashed windows, and so on. > > He said the state governor had declared a state of emergency and a > curfew for Berkeley. I said it was completely quiet on our > street and we > were about to go out to a concert in town. He said something > like ' NO, > no, Berkeley is burning. It's dangerous, you'll get > arrested!" We went > to our event, wished we had brought earplugs for the music, otherwise > had a good time and went home. We saw no police, nor anything > at all out > of the ordinary. > > It turned out that, as "news" as entertainment purveyors are > wont to do, > the TV folks carefully chose camera angles to make a few, > mostly drunk, > folks making a mess on a couple of blocks of one street look like a > major riot. And the newscaster's (term "news" in the context > used with > reservations) made it sound like it was the entire city. > > Lesson - Even someone who had been there during much greater > disturbances was fooled by "news" reports. > > My own experience around my area is that things are pretty > normal in a > day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets > busy, people > are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a > normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to do, > lives to > live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than > others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty > discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, > mid day, mid > week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, > and it seemed > pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and consumables are > still moving. > > We've eaten out a bit lately, as usual. It's hard to tell if > restaurant > business is down in the modest places we frequent, but there are > certainly others also eating out when and where we are. Sure, > more small > businesses are probably in trouble or have failed lately than > usual, but > some are still starting up. We're really excited about at > least one. The > closest Starbuck's closed and a third branch of a small restaurant we > love is opening in its place, much closer than the others. Whoopee! > > A much beloved local drug store and more upset lots of people when it > closed recently. But they had embarked on a plan of expansion > recently. > I spent decades in the food and drug retail business. I thought they > were taking big risks and in danger of failure even without > an economic > downturn. They went from one local store carefully tuned to a > place that > loved them to leasing and staffing separate offices and opening three > new stores all in a short period. One of the new locations failed, as > isn't uncommon (New store location and related areas were some of my > specialties.) I'm sure they were stretched way too thin and over > leveraged at that point. So sure, folks can blame it on the > economy, but > I think it was maybe 90% management error and 10% economy. If > they had > managed conservatively, no new office overhead, open one > store at a time > and get it profitable before the next, at least the original location > would most likely still be operating. > > People are losing homes, but the number in tent cities in at > least the > vast majority of the country, is tiny. Most are finding alternate > housing, not out on the streets. Our friend in mortgage > trouble has been > going back and forth with her lender, counselors, possible government > programs, etc. for months. She's still in the house, although looking > for a decent rental if she does have to go. But she is still eating, > clothed, under a roof, driving around, etc. She's self employed, and > business is down, but not out. > > In my immediate neighborhood, real estate sales are slower > than normal, > but houses are still selling for pretty much what they were going for > before the meltdown. Again, news reports make it sound like the price > losses are universal. I have yet to see a foreclosure sign in > town. Not > to say there aren't any, but they aren't everywhere. > > Too much talk, just to say come on over! Spend a little > EuroCash, have a > lovely time and do your small part to bolster the US economy. > If you are > near SF, I know a nice place in Berkeley with a pleasant > guest room in a > lovely, quiet neighborhood where you would be welcome to stay > for free, > leaving more money to spend on other things. ;-) > > > I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a > > holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in > some stores more staff was present than customers. That > cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > > > So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do show > up? No way. > They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:27:02 2009 Received: (qmail 10118 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:27:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929B3E182F7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2BEE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C09634AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:26:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8096A34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (smtp03.online.nl [194.134.41.33]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD1768196 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:26:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:26:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:26:54 +0200 Message-ID: <660B4CC5DDB848F8B744F87242189330@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D693EF.70305@chucknorcutt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp03.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:27:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77c46261151869477228 Hi Chuck, Good to hear people still dine out. Sorry to hear there is a crowd ou there though ;-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 0:56 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Well, the mid-priced furniture stores were rather empty. But > I didn't > say anything about Nicks, our favorite Friday night pizza place. We > usually go a little bit after 7 pm so that we have no wait > or, at most, > only a very brief wait. Last Friday it was jammed at 7 pm. > I've never > seen that many people there before. We even had to take an > undesirable > little table back in a corner. I'd say maybe those folks were moving > down from the higher end restaurants around here... but, it > can't be... > we don't have any. :-) > > I guess pizza is comfort food. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Moose wrote: > > > > My own experience around my area is that things are pretty > normal in a > > day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets > busy, people > > are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a > > normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to > do, lives to > > live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than > > others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty > > discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, > mid day, mid > > week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, > and it seemed > > pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and > consumables are > > still moving. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:30:33 2009 Received: (qmail 5254 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:30:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9D7E18313 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11999E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013FB19E72F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1943519E72A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (smtp04.online.nl [194.134.41.34]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA73E273 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:30:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:30:26 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: <888CBDE432934547B4F6A2E3ABC1BEA6@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D6956F.9020508@chucknorcutt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:30:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77d19246082336821329 Hi Chuck, We have our share of crazy people too. Must be of great impact for all people affected at any magnitude, not to spek of the ones that die or get physically or psychologically hurt. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 1:02 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > And that was written as I sit about 6 miles (as the crow > flies) from the > carnage reported at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, NY > today. I'm waiting to hear the details. Stuff like that normally > doesn't happen around here or mostly anywhere for that matter. My > brother-in-law knows one of the higher level staff there but, > from the > little bit of detail given out so far it would appear that > the students > were the targets of perhaps another student. One wonders > what can cause > such hate and pre-meditation... first block the rear entrance > with your > car so no one can escape. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Moose wrote: > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> yes! > >> > > > > and YES > > > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:36:06 2009 Received: (qmail 2388 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:36:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B54E18300 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDACFE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C672934AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1789534AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (smtp03.online.nl [194.134.41.33]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBF568110 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:35:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:35:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:35:57 +0200 Message-ID: <04D4E27E5BAE48D3AB7063750B09884C@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <8CB82D071341B5C-105C-1B7C@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp03.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:36:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77e669651035110158 Thanks a lot Mike. I feel welcome again. I'm affraid Boston it not in the route though. The closest to Boston I will get it NY. In my opinion most staff in shops/hotels/restaurants etc in the US was way more friendly than in the Netherlands. It has been 25 years since I was in the US for the last time however. Thanks, Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: usher99@aol.com [mailto:usher99@aol.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 2:07 > Aan: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Onderwerp: [OM] Trip to the US?, > > > If you are near Boston, give me a ping. Tourism is down a tad here > but reserved New Englanders aren't any more surly than usual > ;-) I've read the wait staff is even a bit less gruff than usual at > Durgin-Park due to the down-turn. They'll soon ruin their > long-standing reputation. There are plenty other places to eat, many > wonderful---let me know. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:39:51 2009 Received: (qmail 31177 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:39:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:39:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D61E1830D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1766BE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0816B34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:39:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA8A34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:39:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (smtp05.online.nl [194.134.41.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6F65219B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:39:44 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:39:43 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <1509C0760231470AAB77B5DACE513DA9@hudson> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:39:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77f4748851023412894 Hi John, Thanks fro the heads-up for Canada. We hve considered that ioption too, but last year decided on the US because my wife and me have been to Canada already but not to the US yet. Also the kids liked the idea of the US more than Canada. As tey will be 19 and 16 next year while we visit they do have a big say in waht we visit and do. As per rules of the list mum I won't go into the other matter. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 2:15 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > Suggest that you re-direct your attention to Canada. > Definitely a safer > place and with no less attractive scenery. > > Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets > ............. they have big shoot outs almost daily and today was no > exception; 13 shot and killed in a not so quiet town in > upstate New York. > > > > jh > . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > Hi guys, > > > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > > mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the > > trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am > > wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > > stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to > > pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to > live in tent > > cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, > but I feel > > like we might offend people because we are able to have a > holiday in > > the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores > more staff > > was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are > the thoughts > > about this on the list? > > > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please > believe me > > I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > > > Wiliam > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:41:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13751 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:41:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:41:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EDEE182FB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B266E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F079119E74F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:40:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7214519E73F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:40:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (smtp09.online.nl [194.134.42.54]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774A61E2A5 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:40:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:40:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:40:57 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:41:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77f9117098512572685 Thanks Greg, I have come to the same conclusion about the media. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: GMcGrath@aol.com [mailto:GMcGrath@aol.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 3:27 > Aan: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Wiliam, > > By all means come and enjoy yourself! Tourism helps our > economy out, and I'm > sure you'll be welcome wherever you travel. Don't for a > minute think that > people will be upset because you can afford to > travel...they'll be glad to see > you. > > As some others have already posted, our news media tends to > concentrate on > the negative and the sensational, and it's not as bad > everywhere as it is in > some places. There are places in the US where you have to be > careful or just > shouldn't go, just as I'm sure there are some of those places in the > Netherlands. > > Greg > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make > dinner for $10 or > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:42:38 2009 Received: (qmail 15720 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:42:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:42:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3905BE182F7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBE9E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFA619E74F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC8E19E715 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (smtp01.online.nl [194.134.41.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92E48E167 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:29 +0200 Message-ID: <7D94BFC10A9C463280F3313E9EB208E1@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp01.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:42:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d77fee190985368819438 Hi Thomas, Thanks for sharig your experiences with me. Surely there will be photos to view after the trip. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Thomas Heide Clausen [mailto:olympus@thomasclausen.org] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 5:38 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I'm not 'murican myself, but I've spend more than my share both in > the USA and in California (which I still think of as a separate > country) -- some of it rather recently, although for work and so in > relatively major metropolitan areas. > > Couple of observations for you as to the only differences I've > observed as a consequence of the crisis: > > o there're more people on the streets asking for > / begging for money > > o the hospitality industry (read: hotels) still > behave as if guests > are made > of gold > > o shopping is often bleeding cheap, as stores are > closing out. I got an > 80% discount on a new briefcase, which I had > seen back home but > dismissed as possible due to it being too expensive > > o my favorite Thai restaurant in San Francisco > has closed up for good. > Ruined my mood for a day or so last I was > there, as I had really > looked forward to my habitual scorched mouth. > > I'm sure that if you head into bad neighborhoods, dressed in gold > and screaming "I own AIG, Lehman Brothers and GM!", then you may > manage to get yourself into trouble. If you just do the usual > touristy stuff, going to usually touristy places then -- frankly -- > even in crisis-hit USA you'll be safe ;) They might even be > welcoming > to you too > > Now, Wiliam, as you have announced your vacation on the list, you > know that you're required to show off photos to us all when you're > back....? > > Thomas > > On 4Apr , 2009, at 24:10 , Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > > Yes Chris, > > > > That is the kind of tent cities I heard about too. I also read that > > people first had to leave their homes and stores their > inventory in a > > storage facility. After a few months of non payments for > the storage > > their inventory was auctioned off. > > > > Thanks for your first answer also. I know there is hardly > anything I > > could have done to cause the current or to help stop it for that > > matter. > > I am not looking for an explanation for what happened, nor > am I trying > > to find a scapegoat. I am merely asking will we be welcome and safe? > > > > Thanks for your time, > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: Chris Crawford [mailto:chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com] > >> Verzonden: vrijdag 3 april 2009 23:53 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside > Sacramento, > >> California. The city was trying to find someplace to house all the > >> homeless people there, many of whom were middle class > people who had > >> lost their jobs, then their homes and everything else. > Remember that > >> in California housing is so drastically overpriced that > people can't > >> keep the house unless they QUICKLY find a job paying > nearly the same > >> as the old job they lost. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Chris Crawford > >> Fine Art Photography > >> Fort Wayne, Indiana > >> 260-747-3962 > >> > >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > >> > >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/3/09 5:49 PM, "Sue Pearce" wrote: > >> > >>> Tent cities? Where? > >>> Bill Pearce > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 4:34 PM > >>> Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi guys, > >>>> > >>>> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US > this coming > >>>> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I > am having > >>>> mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about > >> preparing for the > >>>> trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other > hand I am > >>>> wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > >>>> stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer > >> being able to > >>>> pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to > >> live in tent > >>>> cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, > >> but I feel > >>>> like we might offend people because we are able to have a > >> holiday in > >>>> the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores > >> more staff > >>>> was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are the > >>>> thoughts about this on the list? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and > >> please believe > >>>> me I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > >>>> > >>>> Wiliam > >>>> -- > >>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > >>> -------- > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.40/2039 - Release Date: > >>> 04/03/09 06:19:00 > >> > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:45:09 2009 Received: (qmail 28683 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:45:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112F0E182FC for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE024E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAAB34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DE934AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (smtp09.online.nl [194.134.42.54]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AAA1E059 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:45:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:45:01 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:45:00 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFB660869F44A8780EA55698BC47743@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:45:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d78085100531035110158 Thanks Nathan, Your message surely brings my sense of perspective in level. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Nathan [mailto:photo@frozenlight.eu] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 7:18 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > What Moose has described can also be applied to Spain. In my daily > life it is hard to see outward signs of the crisis, except all the > unsold houses and apartments--but they were there before as well. > Yes, unemployment is up to 15%, the highest rate in the EU, but that > still means that 85% continue to go to work every day etc. > > Same with restaurants, people still go out, although from chatting > with a couple of the owners, business is down somewhat. > > It is important to keep a sense of perspective. > > Nathan > > On 04/04/2009, at 0:41, Moose wrote: > > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > >> mixed feelings. > > > > Great idea! > > > >> One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > >> wanting to ask you what to visit. > > > > The US is bigger than Europe. As you say the trip is > already booked, > > what areas will you be visiting? > > > >> On the other hand I am wondering how welcome tourists are at the > >> moment. > > > > Regular stories here about how tourism is down, adding to economic > > troubles. San Franciso and many surrounding areas depend heavily on > > tourist spending. They will have open arms and welcoming > smiles if you > > show up. > > > >> I keep hearing stories about people loosing their jobs and no > >> longer being able to pay their mortgage and > >> loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I > know that > >> staying at home will not help anybody, but > > > > Story - Way back when, I lived near the UC campus during the Free > > Speech > > Movement, Peoples Park protests and such events. For most of those > > years, I had a roommate in my apartment. After he had married and > > moved > > to S. Calif., he called one night to ask how we (I was also > > married, and > > in the same apartment) were doing with the riots. I said "Huh, what > > riots?" He'd been watching on TV as some fools turned over > trash cans, > > started fires, smashed windows, and so on. > > > > He said the state governor had declared a state of emergency and a > > curfew for Berkeley. I said it was completely quiet on our street > > and we > > were about to go out to a concert in town. He said > something like ' > > NO, > > no, Berkeley is burning. It's dangerous, you'll get > arrested!" We went > > to our event, wished we had brought earplugs for the music, > otherwise > > had a good time and went home. We saw no police, nor anything at > > all out > > of the ordinary. > > > > It turned out that, as "news" as entertainment purveyors are wont > > to do, > > the TV folks carefully chose camera angles to make a few, mostly > > drunk, > > folks making a mess on a couple of blocks of one street look like a > > major riot. And the newscaster's (term "news" in the > context used with > > reservations) made it sound like it was the entire city. > > > > Lesson - Even someone who had been there during much greater > > disturbances was fooled by "news" reports. > > > > My own experience around my area is that things are pretty > normal in a > > day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets busy, > > people > > are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a > > normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to > do, lives to > > live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than > > others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty > > discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, > mid day, > > mid > > week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, and it > > seemed > > pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and consumables are > > still moving. > > > > We've eaten out a bit lately, as usual. It's hard to tell if > > restaurant > > business is down in the modest places we frequent, but there are > > certainly others also eating out when and where we are. Sure, more > > small > > businesses are probably in trouble or have failed lately than > > usual, but > > some are still starting up. We're really excited about at least > > one. The > > closest Starbuck's closed and a third branch of a small > restaurant we > > love is opening in its place, much closer than the others. Whoopee! > > > > A much beloved local drug store and more upset lots of > people when it > > closed recently. But they had embarked on a plan of expansion > > recently. > > I spent decades in the food and drug retail business. I thought they > > were taking big risks and in danger of failure even without an > > economic > > downturn. They went from one local store carefully tuned to > a place > > that > > loved them to leasing and staffing separate offices and > opening three > > new stores all in a short period. One of the new locations > failed, as > > isn't uncommon (New store location and related areas were some of my > > specialties.) I'm sure they were stretched way too thin and over > > leveraged at that point. So sure, folks can blame it on the > > economy, but > > I think it was maybe 90% management error and 10% economy. > If they had > > managed conservatively, no new office overhead, open one > store at a > > time > > and get it profitable before the next, at least the > original location > > would most likely still be operating. > > > > People are losing homes, but the number in tent cities in > at least the > > vast majority of the country, is tiny. Most are finding alternate > > housing, not out on the streets. Our friend in mortgage trouble has > > been > > going back and forth with her lender, counselors, possible > government > > programs, etc. for months. She's still in the house, > although looking > > for a decent rental if she does have to go. But she is still eating, > > clothed, under a roof, driving around, etc. She's self employed, and > > business is down, but not out. > > > > In my immediate neighborhood, real estate sales are slower than > > normal, > > but houses are still selling for pretty much what they were > going for > > before the meltdown. Again, news reports make it sound like > the price > > losses are universal. I have yet to see a foreclosure sign > in town. > > Not > > to say there aren't any, but they aren't everywhere. > > > > Too much talk, just to say come on over! Spend a little EuroCash, > > have a > > lovely time and do your small part to bolster the US economy. If > > you are > > near SF, I know a nice place in Berkeley with a pleasant > guest room > > in a > > lovely, quiet neighborhood where you would be welcome to stay for > > free, > > leaving more money to spend on other things. ;-) > > > >> I feel like we might offend people because we are able to have a > >> holiday in the US. Last week I read on this list that in some > >> stores more staff was present than customers. That cannot > be good. > >> What are the thoughts about this on the list? > >> > > > > So what, they are going to be angry at customers who do > show up? No > > way. > > They will exhort you to buy things, but that's not new. :-) > > > > Moose > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:45:52 2009 Received: (qmail 14246 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:45:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:45:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945C0E18304 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F934E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C51B19E74F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6848019E715 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7416 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 15:45:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 15:45:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49D780A6.6000501@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:45:42 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <660B4CC5DDB848F8B744F87242189330@wiliam> In-Reply-To: <660B4CC5DDB848F8B744F87242189330@wiliam> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:45:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d780b0161331035110158 It was still very busy last night. But the pizza is always good. :-) Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Good to hear people still dine out. Sorry to hear there is a crowd ou > there though ;-) > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 0:56 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> Well, the mid-priced furniture stores were rather empty. But >> I didn't >> say anything about Nicks, our favorite Friday night pizza place. We >> usually go a little bit after 7 pm so that we have no wait >> or, at most, >> only a very brief wait. Last Friday it was jammed at 7 pm. >> I've never >> seen that many people there before. We even had to take an >> undesirable >> little table back in a corner. I'd say maybe those folks were moving >> down from the higher end restaurants around here... but, it >> can't be... >> we don't have any. :-) >> >> I guess pizza is comfort food. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Moose wrote: >>> My own experience around my area is that things are pretty >> normal in a >>> day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets >> busy, people >>> are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a >>> normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to >> do, lives to >>> live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than >>> others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty >>> discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, >> mid day, mid >>> week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, >> and it seemed >>> pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and >> consumables are >>> still moving. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:52:15 2009 Received: (qmail 21148 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:52:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:52:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DECBE18313 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F25E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2D719E771 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:52:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C545019E715 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:52:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (smtp09.online.nl [194.134.42.54]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715851E3C8 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:52:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:52:07 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:52:06 +0200 Message-ID: <834195023E5846CFA22AECD3550374CB@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <662585.76055.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:52:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7822f190861702588592 Hi Ali, Sorry but the Niagara falls are not in our route. Maybe we can see them from the plane while flying fron New York to Las Vegas with a stopover in Chicago? Your country is so large that we can only see very few special places and the ones we visit we can only visit briefly. I feel we are already wanting to see too much. I will mail my travel plans to the list later. Maybe there will be a next time we visit the US ;-) That will be a few years away though. Can't afford this kind of trip every year, not even without the kids ;-( Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: AS [mailto:alizookoman@yahoo.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 16:25 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I > have a friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. > You'll be in close proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away > from NYC. > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:56:43 2009 Received: (qmail 19367 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:56:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C11EE1830C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8CAE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8C19E7A4 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A14519E79A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (smtp05.online.nl [194.134.41.35]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B3452021 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:34 +0200 Message-ID: <8F5770ADA6164606BC3025CFC89A61A9@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D77907.1020103@blueyonder.co.uk> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:56:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7833b178211234514069 Hi Donald, Safari sounds good also! My wife is affraid of all kinds of critters that creep around there also, so she has safari very low on her to do list. You are right. Problems enough can be had here also. Seems much agression is in trains and busses nowadays. I haven't had any personal expeiences with that however, not even after travelling by train 4 hours a day for the last two years. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Donald [mailto:d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 17:13 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > Thanks for your extensive answer Chuck. I just wanted to > know how the > > locals feel the situation is and you surely made me more > comfortable > > already. > > > > > > Echoing what I just said with regard to Martyn's email, Wiliam, there > are problems everywhere; I could probably come up with plenty > of reasons > not to come to the UK, for that matter. Plenty of reasons, > also, to come. > > I probably won't be going to the US anytime soon, nothing to > do with the > economics or even the remote possibility of being shot. I may even be > restricted to internal travel, unless pressured by the wife, when my > passport comes up for renewal. Too many people want a piece > of you now, > I'm uncomfortable with air travel, removing my shoes, being > shoved about > with impunity generally treated like a suspect. > > Better get that safari in soon... > > D. > > -- > I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 17:59:43 2009 Received: (qmail 18452 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 15:59:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 15:59:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E08E18314 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3251CE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153AC34AC045 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:59:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD9E34AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13425 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 15:59:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 15:59:36 -0000 Message-ID: <49D783E7.8020209@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:59:35 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <888CBDE432934547B4F6A2E3ABC1BEA6@wiliam> In-Reply-To: <888CBDE432934547B4F6A2E3ABC1BEA6@wiliam> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 17:59:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d783ef288585368819438 If it makes you feel any better there was one homicide in Binghamton in 2008. That's more normal for what really is a quiet college town. Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > We have our share of crazy people too. Must be of great impact for all > people affected at any magnitude, not to spek of the ones that die or > get physically or psychologically hurt. > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 1:02 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> And that was written as I sit about 6 miles (as the crow >> flies) from the >> carnage reported at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, NY >> today. I'm waiting to hear the details. Stuff like that normally >> doesn't happen around here or mostly anywhere for that matter. My >> brother-in-law knows one of the higher level staff there but, >> from the >> little bit of detail given out so far it would appear that >> the students >> were the targets of perhaps another student. One wonders >> what can cause >> such hate and pre-meditation... first block the rear entrance >> with your >> car so no one can escape. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Moose wrote: >>> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>> yes! >>>> >>> and YES >>> >>> Moose >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 18:30:29 2009 Received: (qmail 24356 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 16:30:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 16:30:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5ADE182F1 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4E6E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08D19E850 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F66619E846 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 0EC2BDB6DT for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:30:16 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9B542.A2D0398A" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:28:16 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm0pBJhNw4nqaIpQt6Ei26DXfQFyAAnkjqF References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2009 16:30:16.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2DCFB30:01C9B542] Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 18:30:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d78b25295237927319144 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9B542.A2D0398A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What are the thoughts about this on the list? >Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me = I >do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >Wiliam By all means, come, see, enjoy. The country on a whole is a very = friendly, welcoming place. =20 Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. 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Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:43:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416E819E889 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:43:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7404634E3 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:04:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <27A2349F-E282-497D-ADE9-977222084A34@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49D77907.1020103@blueyonder.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:43:42 +0100 References: <340D2E918C7F44E19024DFB5A6A084D4@wiliam> <49D77907.1020103@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 18:43:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d78e46193591234514069 Amen, Donald. I feel every so slightly sad with that state of affairs, but there are plenty of lovely places to see closer to home ... at home even. Chris On 4 Apr 2009, at 16:13, Donald wrote: > > I probably won't be going to the US anytime soon, nothing to do with > the > economics or even the remote possibility of being shot. I may even be > restricted to internal travel, unless pressured by the wife, when my > passport comes up for renewal. Too many people want a piece of you > now, > I'm uncomfortable with air travel, removing my shoes, being shoved > about > with impunity generally treated like a suspect. > > Better get that safari in soon... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 18:45:49 2009 Received: (qmail 9019 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 16:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 16:45:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4471BE182F9 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E51E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8005034AC054 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4EB34AC045 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C55046374D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:06:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:45:42 +0100 References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <167C7165-ECF4-4588-B80D-89E8F8A84E91@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 18:45:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d78ebd178698512572685 Well, good luck with your b*lls, Tom. I believe that chutzpah is a good word to describe that :-) Chris On 4 Apr 2009, at 11:09, Tom Fenwick wrote: > > I am not sure how much recognition is involved - anyone can apply to > book a > session, but I don't know how much of an element of queue jumping > based on > interest is involved. The main thing for me was having the b*lls to > apply, > I think, and as I still see the project as a beginning I think > whatever they > have to say about it will be very useful. > > This one is my sister - indeed well represented in the gallery: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/87752611 > > Everyone else in there, apart from one or two random grabs out and > about, is > dear to me for one reason or another. In fact even those I don't know > probably qualify just for appearing in a picture I am proud of. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 19:10:50 2009 Received: (qmail 15464 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 17:10:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 17:10:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D18E182F7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB03E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CB419E91D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CC519E911 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [77.208.55.215] (port=50990) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lq9O6-0003vn-Ks (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:10:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , LEG , Olympus Camera Discussion Message-Id: <9AEAEA5E-DC98-4166-A51C-6F9FC9B9B669@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:10:28 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/04/2009: tango in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 19:10:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7949a33891234514069 I am spending this weekend in the Sierra Nevada in Andalucia. My wife and children wanted to go skiing one last time this season. Since I don't ski, I spent the day in Granada (just 30 km away), my first visit there. From what I have seen today, this is Spain's most impressive city, a place where history is palpable and the architecture beautiful. But as always, it is the people that make the place what it is. The good people of Granada will dance tango on a busy square as long there is music and the sun is shining: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#505125595_3bv9q-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 19:45:08 2009 Received: (qmail 9727 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 17:45:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 17:45:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D999DE182E6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56166E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B2134AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA4834AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1333272fxm.14 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.138 with SMTP id v10mr891314bkq.208.1238867100782; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:45:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8a97e9cd0a131423 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 19:45:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d79ca4276391946193717 Tent City? Tourism? Doesn't that describe most campgrounds? The USA's nationwide unemployment rate just pegged 8.5%. This means that some locations are running 15% or so, and others are still at the minimum 4%. 4% is generally considered to be "full employment" with 4% either not employable, seasonably unemployed (construction in the north), or just between jobs. Around these parts, we're doing extremely well. We're hanging pretty close to full employment with minimal job loss. Of course, the economic booms usually bypass us too.... The rust-belt state are hugely affected, mostly because of heavy industry and automotive. The automotive industry in the USA will probably resemble the textile industry here in a few years. If we just stop watching the nattering nabobs of negativism on television, we find that things are actually doing pretty well across this country. I know that the trucking traffic on I-80 passing through Iowa (which is almost entirely pass-through interstate transport) hasn't diminished too much. It's not as nuts as two years ago at the peak, but you still have to negotiate for every inch of highway with the big rigs. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 19:57:02 2009 Received: (qmail 17573 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 17:57:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 17:57:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E6E182F2 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546D0E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FEA34AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D3734AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DAC31408F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3A431408A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:57:00 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090404-0, 04/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 19:57:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d79f6e244494673671140 > > But where will you be when your half of California breaks off and goes out to sea? :-) I think Moose lives on the east side of the San Andeas. He'll have waterfront! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 20:08:23 2009 Received: (qmail 27518 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 18:08:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 18:08:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326D0E1830D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE25E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DE319EA01 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1882419E52B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90C231408F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2A531408A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D7A213.1070602@interisland.net> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:08:19 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090404-0, 04/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 20:08:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7a217270221702588592 > > Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The last month in Vancouver has been carnage on the street. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 20:14:08 2009 Received: (qmail 18824 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 18:14:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 18:14:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7024E182EF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD59CE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF17F34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C3F34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15210 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 18:13:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 18:13:56 -0000 Message-ID: <49D7A363.4050103@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:13:55 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <834195023E5846CFA22AECD3550374CB@wiliam> In-Reply-To: <834195023E5846CFA22AECD3550374CB@wiliam> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090403-0, 04/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 20:14:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7a37065321591313764 You will most likely pass about 250 km south of Niagara Falls. Enjoy your trip but don't take Las Vegas as anything like the rest of the US. It is unlike any other city in the US. Also, smoking is allowed in most (if not all) casinos. And there is a lot of it. That's unlike most places in the US today. But perhaps you'll plan a side trip to Hoover Dam. Recommended. The shorter and less expensive tour is probably adequate. Hoover Dam is about 50km from Las Vegas on mostly fast highway. You have to pass through the suburban areas of Las Vegas and Henderson (where my father lives). There are still lots of casinos in Henderson but it looks more typical (at least of desert living) than the Las Vegas strip. When you get tired of casinos and lights and need to do a little landscape photography go west about 30 km to Red Rock Canyon. Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Ali, > > Sorry but the Niagara falls are not in our route. Maybe we can see them > from the plane while flying fron New York to Las Vegas with a stopover > in Chicago? Your country is so large that we can only see very few > special places and the ones we visit we can only visit briefly. I feel > we are already wanting to see too much. I will mail my travel plans to > the list later. > > Maybe there will be a next time we visit the US ;-) That will be a few > years away though. Can't afford this kind of trip every year, not even > without the kids ;-( > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: AS [mailto:alizookoman@yahoo.com] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 16:25 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I >> have a friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. >> You'll be in close proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away >> from NYC. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 20:28:21 2009 Received: (qmail 7391 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 18:28:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 18:28:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D7E18317 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D901E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2538734AC059 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8251634AC057 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21075 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2009 18:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Apr 2009 18:28:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49D7A6BE.9060404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:28:14 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090404-0, 04/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 20:28:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7a6c5313777350615338 But he's probably sitting right on top of the Hayward Fault. Instead of floating out to sea he'll likely just fall straight into the abyss. :-) Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: >> But where will you be when your half of California breaks off and goes out to sea? :-) > I think Moose lives on the east side of the San Andeas. He'll have > waterfront! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 22:46:10 2009 Received: (qmail 4179 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 20:46:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 20:46:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777CBE1830C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD3EE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BDD19ED0C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6329019ECAD for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:46:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11823 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2009 20:45:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 20:45:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:45:57 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 22:46:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7c71110403675314703 Done. (Yup - still hold UK citizenship. Place has gone to rack and ruin since I left of course...). Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/04/2009, at 12:26 AM, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > Hi, > > I realise it won't do any good..... :-( > > just wanted to draw the attention of UK members to the petition on > photo > restrictions in the latest counter terrorism diktat - > http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Photorestrict/ > > "On the 16th of February, the Government passed a law (in the Counter > Terrorism Act) making it illegal to take a photograph of a police > office, military personnel or member of the intelligence services - > or a > photograph which "may be of use for terrorism". This definition is > vague > at best, and open to interpretation by the police - who under Home > Secretary guidelines can "restrict photography in public places". We > call for these vague restrictions to be lifted, as they can easily be > mis-used by the police." > > Only takes a minute or so to sign up... should you wish to...... > > Regards - Martyn Smoothy > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:10:01 2009 Received: (qmail 16895 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:09:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC7CE182FB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1668BE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F181419ED44 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2817B19E9CF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (smtp05.online.nl [194.134.41.35]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59CF5244C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:09:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:09:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:09:51 +0200 Message-ID: <318B8454FD6A4AFD85490BDC92D652F0@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9B57A.757DDC30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000C029C6AFE596834596C47CF12BE87669642D3E00 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:10:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7cca9142414673671140 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C9B57A.757DDC30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Jim, I gathered that by now from the previous reactions and yours. Wiliam -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Timpe, Jim [mailto:Jim.Timpe@Fluke.com] Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 18:28 Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion Onderwerp: RE: [OM] Trip to the US? > What are the thoughts about this on the list? >Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I >do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >Wiliam By all means, come, see, enjoy. The country on a whole is a very friendly, welcoming place. 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d="scan'208";a="312587576" References: <49D7A213.1070602@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:12:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7cd40323611529615919 Not at all nice and definitely not nice for Lotus Land ! It all took place within three blocks of where we once lived. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" To: "1" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The last month in > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:13:05 2009 Received: (qmail 6646 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:13:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED45BE182E7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43220E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3659834AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D939634AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27FA14B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:12:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:12:50 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:12:48 +0200 Message-ID: <44BFBAFC997E4698B0C1A35235A0A6DF@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:13:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7cd61295945368819438 Ken Norton wrote: ----- > Tent City? Tourism? > Doesn't that describe most campgrounds? > ----- Sure does. That's a positive way to look at it. I like to go camping. Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:19:47 2009 Received: (qmail 15372 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:19:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:19:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB98E182F6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7B2E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D584919ED6A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2A419ED68 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL00GCCHWT6FC1@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:19:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:19:38 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:19:39 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <2EC3782AA5A74C42BA3AED9B502921A1@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnIPAN9r10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBS4hmwH8HgkOBRQY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,324,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="498218472" References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:19:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7cef3134189117217770 ................better not be taking photos of Trooping the Colour or of the squadies on guard outside Buckingham Palace. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition > Done. > (Yup - still hold UK citizenship. Place has gone to rack and ruin > since I left of course...). > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/04/2009, at 12:26 AM, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I realise it won't do any good..... :-( >> >> just wanted to draw the attention of UK members to the petition on >> photo >> restrictions in the latest counter terrorism diktat - >> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Photorestrict/ >> >> "On the 16th of February, the Government passed a law (in the Counter >> Terrorism Act) making it illegal to take a photograph of a police >> office, military personnel or member of the intelligence services - >> or a >> photograph which "may be of use for terrorism". This definition is >> vague >> at best, and open to interpretation by the police - who under Home >> Secretary guidelines can "restrict photography in public places". We >> call for these vague restrictions to be lifted, as they can easily be >> mis-used by the police." >> >> Only takes a minute or so to sign up... should you wish to...... >> >> Regards - Martyn Smoothy >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:21:54 2009 Received: (qmail 11543 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:21:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:21:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA0BE1830D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B02E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6F834AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:21:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66EC34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (smtp09.online.nl [194.134.42.54]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2A51E096 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:21:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:21:46 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:21:45 +0200 Message-ID: <3083835B605D44B89EC04261AB44DBF2@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49D7A363.4050103@chucknorcutt.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:21:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7cf72150734673671140 Thanks for your recommendations Chuck. Hoover dam was already on the to must see list. We just added red rock canyon to the want to see list. I understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US (or elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 20:14 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > You will most likely pass about 250 km south of Niagara Falls. Enjoy > your trip but don't take Las Vegas as anything like the rest > of the US. > It is unlike any other city in the US. Also, smoking is allowed in > most (if not all) casinos. And there is a lot of it. That's unlike > most places in the US today. > > But perhaps you'll plan a side trip to Hoover Dam. > Recommended. > The > shorter and > less expensive tour is probably adequate. Hoover Dam is > about 50km from > Las Vegas on mostly fast highway. You have to pass through > the suburban > areas of Las Vegas and Henderson (where my father lives). There are > still lots of casinos in Henderson but it looks more typical > (at least > of desert living) than the Las Vegas strip. > > When you get tired of casinos and lights and need to do a little > landscape photography go west about 30 km to Red Rock Canyon. > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > Hi Ali, > > > > Sorry but the Niagara falls are not in our route. Maybe we can see > > them from the plane while flying fron New York to Las Vegas with a > > stopover in Chicago? Your country is so large that we can only see > > very few special places and the ones we visit we can only visit > > briefly. I feel we are already wanting to see too much. I > will mail my > > travel plans to the list later. > > > > Maybe there will be a next time we visit the US ;-) That > will be a few > > years away though. Can't afford this kind of trip every > year, not even > > without the kids ;-( > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: AS [mailto:alizookoman@yahoo.com] > >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 16:25 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I > >> have a friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. > >> You'll be in close proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away > >> from NYC. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:26:02 2009 Received: (qmail 3093 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:26:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FECAE1830C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D1FE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E07F19ED8A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BED219ED72 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E79A00B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:25:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:25:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:25:53 +0200 Message-ID: <202DEA41347F4117B4BE0C987FF01ABE@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <9271C2973D45477EA3BDC5973E190C90@hudson> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:26:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7d06a114191073733319 Hi John, I don't understand Lotus Land here. I only know of Lotus victims where people act as victims of an accident or crime to train the medical people helping them. Things can come close indeed. Your remark made me think back of Christmas three years ago when a divorced man smothered both his children and then hung himself. The house where all that happened > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:12 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > Not at all nice and definitely not nice for Lotus Land ! > > It all took place within three blocks of where we once lived. > > jh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Lazzari" > To: "1" > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > > >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets > > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The last month in > > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. > > > > Mike > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:28:02 2009 Received: (qmail 19700 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:28:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:28:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1DDE182F8 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AC2E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF7819EDA6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B78219EDA0 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (smtp06.online.nl [194.134.42.51]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF0A96185 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:27:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:27:56 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:27:55 +0200 Message-ID: <606AA5E94FD340BBB128443D5254C899@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) Subject: [OM] FW: Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:28:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7d0e2300862070262475 Sorry guys something went wrong. The previous mail was sent a bit premature. I'll finish my text here. > Hi John, > > I don't understand Lotus Land here. I only know of Lotus > victims where people act as victims of an accident or crime > to train the medical people helping them. > > Things can come close indeed. Your remark made me think back > of Christmas three years ago when a divorced man smothered > both his children and then hung himself. The house where all > that happened is only 200 metres away from our home and I can see it from my living room. Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:28:39 2009 Received: (qmail 15936 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:28:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23490E18307 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD93FE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C127034AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47AB34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:28:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=gordross%40mac.com&ip=24.71.223.10&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd3ml2so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.138]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 15:28:31 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=b35fNaj0AAAA:8 a=DWCnFwKqAAAA:8 a=S7JLxKoXAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=Kz3FjyH-JHAb9NBxTMAA:9 a=SkBDhnFnQ-2OwHfZRxYA:7 a=P8CqG_isDag8y_y8mhgc417HuJoA:4 a=3zq07fkmrvEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 Received: from s0106001ff33fa34c.cg.shawcable.net (HELO [10.0.1.2]) ([68.146.118.161]) by pd3ml2so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 15:28:31 -0600 Message-Id: <869192F2-E2D0-40FB-B1F6-DF3EFE4A8C61@mac.com> From: Gordon Ross To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3083835B605D44B89EC04261AB44DBF2@wiliam> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:28:31 -0600 References: <3083835B605D44B89EC04261AB44DBF2@wiliam> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:28:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7d10788561744846740 Hi William- you have to go to the 'Valley of Fire' about half hour drive out of Vegas- three colour layers of rock forming canyons and rock structures- a trail leading to a cauldren where there are original artworks on the rock walls and reputedly the hideout of the last of the aboriginals in the area. Fabulous landscape photo opps. -gord On 4-Apr-09, at 3:21 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Thanks for your recommendations Chuck. Hoover dam was already on the > to > must see list. We just added red rock canyon to the want to see > list. I > understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US (or > elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 20:14 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> You will most likely pass about 250 km south of Niagara Falls. Enjoy >> your trip but don't take Las Vegas as anything like the rest >> of the US. >> It is unlike any other city in the US. Also, smoking is allowed in >> most (if not all) casinos. And there is a lot of it. That's unlike >> most places in the US today. >> >> But perhaps you'll plan a side trip to Hoover Dam. >> Recommended. >> The >> shorter and >> less expensive tour is probably adequate. Hoover Dam is >> about 50km from >> Las Vegas on mostly fast highway. You have to pass through >> the suburban >> areas of Las Vegas and Henderson (where my father lives). There are >> still lots of casinos in Henderson but it looks more typical >> (at least >> of desert living) than the Las Vegas strip. >> >> When you get tired of casinos and lights and need to do a little >> landscape photography go west about 30 km to Red Rock Canyon. >> >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >>> Hi Ali, >>> >>> Sorry but the Niagara falls are not in our route. Maybe we can see >>> them from the plane while flying fron New York to Las Vegas with a >>> stopover in Chicago? Your country is so large that we can only see >>> very few special places and the ones we visit we can only visit >>> briefly. I feel we are already wanting to see too much. I >> will mail my >>> travel plans to the list later. >>> >>> Maybe there will be a next time we visit the US ;-) That >> will be a few >>> years away though. Can't afford this kind of trip every >> year, not even >>> without the kids ;-( >>> >>> Wiliam >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: AS [mailto:alizookoman@yahoo.com] >>>> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 16:25 >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>> >>>> Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I >>>> have a friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. >>>> You'll be in close proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away >>>> from NYC. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:42:33 2009 Received: (qmail 22460 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:42:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687E7E182E1 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A065E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EAA19EDDB for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9393319EDBF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:42:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (smtp01.online.nl [194.134.41.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ADB8E1B7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:42:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:42:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:42:22 +0200 Message-ID: <3C09F3EA6D9F4B0D964F8F45E7C2A05A@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <869192F2-E2D0-40FB-B1F6-DF3EFE4A8C61@mac.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp01.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:42:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7d449128721838542571 Hi Gord, Thanks for your tip to go to the Valley of Fire. We'll take it into consideration. There is so much to see and so little time. Our total trip time will be 29 days, including flights. In that time we cannot see all the things to see in one of your states, let alone your whole country. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Gordon Ross [mailto:gordross@mac.com] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:29 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Hi William- > > you have to go to the 'Valley of Fire' about half hour drive out of > Vegas- three colour layers of rock forming canyons and rock > structures- a trail leading to a cauldren where there are original > artworks on the rock walls and reputedly the hideout of the last of > the aboriginals in the area. Fabulous landscape photo opps. > > -gord > > On 4-Apr-09, at 3:21 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > > Thanks for your recommendations Chuck. Hoover dam was already on the > > to > > must see list. We just added red rock canyon to the want to see > > list. I > > understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in > the US (or > > elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 20:14 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> You will most likely pass about 250 km south of Niagara > Falls. Enjoy > >> your trip but don't take Las Vegas as anything like the > rest of the > >> US. It is unlike any other city in the US. Also, smoking > is allowed > >> in most (if not all) casinos. And there is a lot of it. That's > >> unlike most places in the US today. > >> > >> But perhaps you'll plan a side trip to Hoover Dam. Recommended. > >> The > >> shorter and > >> less expensive tour is probably adequate. Hoover Dam is > >> about 50km from > >> Las Vegas on mostly fast highway. You have to pass through > >> the suburban > >> areas of Las Vegas and Henderson (where my father lives). > There are > >> still lots of casinos in Henderson but it looks more typical > >> (at least > >> of desert living) than the Las Vegas strip. > >> > >> When you get tired of casinos and lights and need to do a little > >> landscape photography go west about 30 km to Red Rock Canyon. > >> > >> > >> > >> Chuck Norcutt > >> > >> Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > >>> Hi Ali, > >>> > >>> Sorry but the Niagara falls are not in our route. Maybe > we can see > >>> them from the plane while flying fron New York to Las > Vegas with a > >>> stopover in Chicago? Your country is so large that we can > only see > >>> very few special places and the ones we visit we can only visit > >>> briefly. I feel we are already wanting to see too much. I > >> will mail my > >>> travel plans to the list later. > >>> > >>> Maybe there will be a next time we visit the US ;-) That > >> will be a few > >>> years away though. Can't afford this kind of trip every > >> year, not even > >>> without the kids ;-( > >>> > >>> Wiliam > >>> > >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >>>> Van: AS [mailto:alizookoman@yahoo.com] > >>>> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 16:25 > >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I have a > >>>> friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. You'll > be in close > >>>> proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away from NYC. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >>>> > >>> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:48:36 2009 Received: (qmail 4362 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:48:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:48:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2020EE182E8 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588E8E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D53D19EDF5 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:48:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9773A19EDBF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:48:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL00GWOJ8P6EC1@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:48:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:48:26 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:48:26 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <7B3DF4F0AB0746FA87205908D51D8065@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnIPAKty10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBS4hmwEwHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,324,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="461438784" References: <202DEA41347F4117B4BE0C987FF01ABE@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:48:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7d5b4299742046811720 Within Canada, BC is frequently referred to as "Lotus Land" and especially the "Lower Mainland" at the mouth of the Fraser River, site of metro Vancouver. Likewise, Alberta is known as "God's Country", Toronto as "Hogtown" and before anyone else chirps in, Calgary is "Cowtown". Few other places matter .....:-)) jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Hi John, > > I don't understand Lotus Land here. I only know of Lotus victims where > people act as victims of an accident or crime to train the medical > people helping them. > > Things can come close indeed. Your remark made me think back of > Christmas three years ago when a divorced man smothered both his > children and then hung himself. The house where all that happened > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:12 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> >> >> Not at all nice and definitely not nice for Lotus Land ! >> >> It all took place within three blocks of where we once lived. >> >> jh >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Lazzari" >> To: "1" >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> > > >> >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets >> > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The last month in >> > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. >> > >> > Mike >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> > >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 4 23:56:26 2009 Received: (qmail 31384 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 21:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 21:56:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD320E182FA for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE3CE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5810634AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6214034AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:56:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (smtp04.online.nl [194.134.41.34]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 14:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48A1E051 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:56:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:56:18 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:56:17 +0200 Message-ID: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <7B3DF4F0AB0746FA87205908D51D8065@hudson> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 4 23:56:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7d78a118243675314703 Thanks for the topography lessons John. We loved the Fraser and Thompson canyon when we visited Canada back in '91. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:48 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Within Canada, BC is frequently referred to as "Lotus Land" > and especially > the "Lower Mainland" at the mouth of the Fraser River, site of metro > Vancouver. > > Likewise, Alberta is known as "God's Country", Toronto as > "Hogtown" and > before anyone else chirps in, Calgary is "Cowtown". Few > other places matter > .....:-)) > > jh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:25 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > Hi John, > > > > I don't understand Lotus Land here. I only know of Lotus > victims where > > people act as victims of an accident or crime to train the medical > > people helping them. > > > > Things can come close indeed. Your remark made me think back of > > Christmas three years ago when a divorced man smothered both his > > children and then hung himself. The house where all that happened > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:12 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Not at all nice and definitely not nice for Lotus Land ! > >> > >> It all took place within three blocks of where we once lived. > >> > >> jh > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mike Lazzari" > >> To: "1" > >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:08 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on > the streets > >> > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The > last month in > >> > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. > >> > > >> > Mike > >> > -- > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 00:35:12 2009 Received: (qmail 3975 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 22:35:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 22:35:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8EDE182EA for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783A0E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7D34AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9885234AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f170.google.com (mail-ew0-f170.google.com [209.85.219.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so1375361ewy.14 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.22.16 with SMTP id 16mr2048851ebv.94.1238884502500; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3538889ewy.57.2009.04.04.15.35.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> <49D774E9.5020407@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:34:52 +0100 Message-ID: <131F7D18D24B419D9C0A3ED4A542F440@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <49D774E9.5020407@blueyonder.co.uk> Thread-Index: Acm1NV+vb4pUmPc/SyKkw7O/Db1QDAAQB0sg Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 00:35:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7e0a0132091342116753 Thanks Martyn, I have signed. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Donald [mailto:d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 04 April 2009 15:56 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition Martyn Smoothy wrote: > Hi, > > I realise it won't do any good..... :-( > You're right, but I did it anyway. Cheers, Martyn. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 00:42:17 2009 Received: (qmail 32540 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 22:42:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 22:42:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E2CE1830D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF11E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9FE19EEF3 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5834919ED80 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com (imo-m14.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.204]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.bd2.3d981e0e (30740) for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:42:06 -0400 (EDT) From: USHER99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:42:06 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5048 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 00:42:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7e249128222046811720 Thanks Chuck, Moose, CH, Nathan, No news is good news. Perhaps JH will chime in. The price of this lens really has fluctuated. It was listed at $800 USD at KEH less than 2 years ago, now I see one at 300 in EX condition. Jeff grabbed one for cheap on yabe and sold it to me at cost, though it benefited from a CLA with John and has been fine. Not sure what these reports on FM are about--rear element issue. I checked mine last night--seems OK. I totally forgot a similar Tokina existed until Moose mentioned it. I think the Zuiko goes to 1:5 thereabouts at the 250 mm. I remember CH bokeh tests and the Z. 50-250 which can be busy, and can't say I've ever tried a macro with it. Perhaps at that FL the bokeh will be better. I usually have a macro lens with me, but I have on rare occasion been caught short--errr, should say long. Dean likes the Tam SP 60-300 on the autotube for a butterfly kit. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 00:46:22 2009 Received: (qmail 22467 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 22:46:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 22:46:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D28E18305 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A6AE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFC334AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:46:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98EA34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL00GOVLWZHVM0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:46:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:46:11 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:46:12 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnIPAJB/10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBS4hmwDoHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,324,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="461455877" References: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 00:46:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7e33e106511073733319 Back in late 1976 I shipped a 1977 VW Dasher Wagon from London to Vancouver and then drove it to Calgary in the dead of winter. At Litton in the Fraser Canyon I ran over a rock in the road, twice the size of a basketball, and took out the oil pan. The local Esso station did all the necessary fix ups ...... three days on the hoist all for $110 !. I do have some long memories of the Fraser Canyon. You did take a ride on the Devils Canyon cable car ride across the Fraser Canyon not far from Litton? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Thanks for the topography lessons John. > > We loved the Fraser and Thompson canyon when we visited Canada back in > '91. > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:48 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> Within Canada, BC is frequently referred to as "Lotus Land" >> and especially >> the "Lower Mainland" at the mouth of the Fraser River, site of metro >> Vancouver. >> >> Likewise, Alberta is known as "God's Country", Toronto as >> "Hogtown" and >> before anyone else chirps in, Calgary is "Cowtown". Few >> other places matter >> .....:-)) >> >> jh >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> > Hi John, >> > >> > I don't understand Lotus Land here. I only know of Lotus >> victims where >> > people act as victims of an accident or crime to train the medical >> > people helping them. >> > >> > Things can come close indeed. Your remark made me think back of >> > Christmas three years ago when a divorced man smothered both his >> > children and then hung himself. The house where all that happened >> > >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> >> Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] >> >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:12 >> >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Not at all nice and definitely not nice for Lotus Land ! >> >> >> >> It all took place within three blocks of where we once lived. >> >> >> >> jh >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Mike Lazzari" >> >> To: "1" >> >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:08 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on >> the streets >> >> > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The >> last month in >> >> > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. >> >> > >> >> > Mike >> >> > -- >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 00:54:45 2009 Received: (qmail 15761 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 22:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 22:54:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371C6E182EA for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E88E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DFA34AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862B334AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=gordross%40mac.com&ip=24.71.223.10&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd2ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.139]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 16:54:37 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=b35fNaj0AAAA:8 a=DWCnFwKqAAAA:8 a=S7JLxKoXAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=4HLxFUeAeDSi4YP8L34A:9 a=MW0QopgQDr3Apvc4z0gA:7 a=9QuweY9L1DIOGHDNiTmmdywgb5kA:4 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=3zq07fkmrvEA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 Received: from s0106001ff33fa34c.cg.shawcable.net (HELO [10.0.1.2]) ([68.146.118.161]) by pd2ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2009 16:54:36 -0600 Message-Id: From: Gordon Ross To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3C09F3EA6D9F4B0D964F8F45E7C2A05A@wiliam> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:54:36 -0600 References: <3C09F3EA6D9F4B0D964F8F45E7C2A05A@wiliam> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 00:54:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7e535200241744846740 Hi William- OK- keep it in mind i had a spectacular day there- BTW i am a Canadian and live in Calgary Alberta so if you make it up here let me know and we will throw a cow on the barbie. -gord On 4-Apr-09, at 3:42 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Gord, > > Thanks for your tip to go to the Valley of Fire. We'll take it into > consideration. There is so much to see and so little time. Our total > trip time will be 29 days, including flights. In that time we cannot > see > all the things to see in one of your states, let alone your whole > country. > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Gordon Ross [mailto:gordross@mac.com] >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:29 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> Hi William- >> >> you have to go to the 'Valley of Fire' about half hour drive out of >> Vegas- three colour layers of rock forming canyons and rock >> structures- a trail leading to a cauldren where there are original >> artworks on the rock walls and reputedly the hideout of the last of >> the aboriginals in the area. Fabulous landscape photo opps. >> >> -gord >> >> On 4-Apr-09, at 3:21 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your recommendations Chuck. Hoover dam was already on the >>> to >>> must see list. We just added red rock canyon to the want to see >>> list. I >>> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in >> the US (or >>> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. >>> >>> Wiliam >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >>>> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 20:14 >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>> >>>> You will most likely pass about 250 km south of Niagara >> Falls. Enjoy >>>> your trip but don't take Las Vegas as anything like the >> rest of the >>>> US. It is unlike any other city in the US. Also, smoking >> is allowed >>>> in most (if not all) casinos. And there is a lot of it. That's >>>> unlike most places in the US today. >>>> >>>> But perhaps you'll plan a side trip to Hoover Dam. Recommended. >>>> The >>>> shorter and >>>> less expensive tour is probably adequate. Hoover Dam is >>>> about 50km from >>>> Las Vegas on mostly fast highway. You have to pass through >>>> the suburban >>>> areas of Las Vegas and Henderson (where my father lives). >> There are >>>> still lots of casinos in Henderson but it looks more typical >>>> (at least >>>> of desert living) than the Las Vegas strip. >>>> >>>> When you get tired of casinos and lights and need to do a little >>>> landscape photography go west about 30 km to Red Rock Canyon. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >>>>> Hi Ali, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry but the Niagara falls are not in our route. Maybe >> we can see >>>>> them from the plane while flying fron New York to Las >> Vegas with a >>>>> stopover in Chicago? Your country is so large that we can >> only see >>>>> very few special places and the ones we visit we can only visit >>>>> briefly. I feel we are already wanting to see too much. I >>>> will mail my >>>>> travel plans to the list later. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe there will be a next time we visit the US ;-) That >>>> will be a few >>>>> years away though. Can't afford this kind of trip every >>>> year, not even >>>>> without the kids ;-( >>>>> >>>>> Wiliam >>>>> >>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>>> Van: AS [mailto:alizookoman@yahoo.com] >>>>>> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 16:25 >>>>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Make sure to visit Niagara Falls ( the American side ). I have a >>>>>> friend here who is from the Netherlands as well. You'll >> be in close >>>>>> proximity to Canada and about 8 hours away from NYC. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 01:32:16 2009 Received: (qmail 11135 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 23:32:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 23:32:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21675E182EE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A86E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375FE19EFAD for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:32:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F4119EF93 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090404233208.WTNQ17104.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:32:08 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id bbY81b00P4Z9Gks02bY8k7; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:32:09 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=X551tDEQbQ6_v7a42SUA:9 a=8JBsDgx1rq-vtHwCxlrVpd78PxoA:4 a=7XzaUCe85xoA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <7A358CDD670749389810BD2AF16154A7@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:32:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 01:32:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7edff195422046811720 The local Esso station did all the necessary fix ups > ...... three days on the hoist all for $110 !. Ah, those days are long gone!! Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 01:35:15 2009 Received: (qmail 22050 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 23:35:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 23:35:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FB9E18321 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC30BE2412F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25A119EFC0 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BFA19EFBE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2AC2E52579 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TkQgjoZ8hxWt for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB082E52568 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090404192049.0581c628@cameta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:35:01 -0700 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090404192049.0581c628@cameta.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Used Camera New Arrival List X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 01:35:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7eeb335451342116753 Cameta has an 85/2 for sale. They usually only have third-party zooms and the slow Zuikos. Their most recent weekly also had a number of fairly recent Olympus digicams: 500/510/560. Usual disclaimer: I have no connection to Cameta other than as a happy customer on several occasions. On 4 Apr 09, at 16:23, photo@cameta.com wrote: > Olympus OM Zuiko Auto-T 85mm f/2 Lens|207098|Highly Regard Short > Tele/Portrait Lens With Fast f/2 Maximum Aperture. For Olympus OM > Series Film SLR Cameras. (E++)| $249 :::: Some call it vision; some call it temporal lobe epilepsy. :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 01:51:21 2009 Received: (qmail 21901 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2009 23:51:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Apr 2009 23:51:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FE9E18317 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A83E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE7A19EFEE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD35D19EFBE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl27.gs02.gridserver.com (cl27.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.36]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50706 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl27.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LqFdr-0006BV-CA for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:51:15 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:51:13 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm1gDxdevcfLCFzEd6xDQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <7A358CDD670749389810BD2AF16154A7@SueHome> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 01:51:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7f279163511234514069 Wouldn't $110 in 1976 be like $1000 today? It seems like it was an expensive fix back then too. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/4/09 7:32 PM, "Sue Pearce" wrote: > The local Esso station did all the necessary fix ups >> ...... three days on the hoist all for $110 !. > > Ah, those days are long gone!! > > Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:09:22 2009 Received: (qmail 21302 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:09:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A64DE1830D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798A2E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB2C19F022 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:09:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15FF19F028 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL0049PPREY570@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:09:14 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:09:14 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:09:16 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <15F124E990F8453BB80B83734F70EF1C@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoPALeT10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBS4hmwEwHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="449550649" References: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> <7A358CDD670749389810BD2AF16154A7@SueHome> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:09:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7f6b2300189347015869 Three days on the hoist ............ had to weld up the very bruised oil pan, countless oil changes to check on oil leaks, extensive inspections of the underside for collateral damage [20 inch diameter boulders can do quite considerable under the body damage], checking the steering mechanism, etc, etc. A car on the hoist with UK licence plates got some attention from passers by. When all was done Imperial Oil [Esso's parent] head office in Calgary got copied with a big thank you letter I sent to the Esso station in Litton, BC. It was during my sojourn in Litton in Jan 1977 that I toured the local hardware stores and sporting goods shops ..................... back then in Canada one could stock up with an AK-47, 7.62mm, .303" [.22's were kiddy toys] with the same ease as purchasing Cornflakes. Handguns were a tad more difficult. As a new immigrant I expressed some surprise. The response I got ................ "oh, you're the new guy in town visiting from Mars with the funny licence places on the hoist at Esso" !! John ps : Wiliam ............. avoid Pittsburgh, PA ............... site of today's mass killing in the USA. You did ask ask about the safety in visiting the USA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > The local Esso station did all the necessary fix ups >> ...... three days on the hoist all for $110 !. > > Ah, those days are long gone!! > > Bill Pearce > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:33:27 2009 Received: (qmail 1324 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:33:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BF6E18300 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9579AE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8665434AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:33:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B5734AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:33:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1399627bwz.14 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:33:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.64.130 with SMTP id e2mr1017941bki.64.1238891601253; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:33:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D7A6BE.9060404@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> <49D7A6BE.9060404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:33:21 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 026176dc479da9b3 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:33:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7fc57147991257536491 > > But he's probably sitting right on top of the Hayward Fault. Instead of > floating out to sea he'll likely just fall straight into the abyss. :-) > But he can get noise-free images from deep in the abyss with his 5D. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:38:40 2009 Received: (qmail 27300 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:38:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:38:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E83E18316 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76744E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575B819F070 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:38:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4CB19F07B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-150.ctimail.com [61.93.57.150]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n350cSI6027141 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:38:29 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n350cSg4001770 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:38:28 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3B4DE1B7C0104A5B8808FD680BAEE53B@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:38:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:38:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7fd9029091234514069 Yes, the bokeh of the 50-250 is not that pretty: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2808.jpg It is okay if you can avoid a busy background and shoot at the long end: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2774.jpg The edge to edge sharpness of the 50-250 at all focal lengths make it a good lens for landscapes. Tamron 70-210/3.5 and 60-300 are the lenses I would like to try but at the monent I have a 65-200 waiting to test :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: > Thanks Chuck, Moose, CH, Nathan, > > No news is good news. Perhaps JH will chime in. The price of this lens > really has fluctuated. It was listed at $800 USD at KEH less than 2 > years ago, > now I see one > at 300 in EX condition. Jeff grabbed one for cheap on yabe and sold it > to > me at cost, though it benefited from a CLA with John and has been fine. > Not > sure what these reports on FM are about--rear element issue. I checked > mine > last night--seems OK. > > I totally forgot a similar Tokina existed until Moose mentioned it. I > think > the Zuiko > goes to 1:5 thereabouts at the 250 mm. I remember CH bokeh tests and the > Z. > 50-250 which can be busy, and can't say I've ever tried a macro with it. > Perhaps at that FL the bokeh will be better. I usually have a macro lens > with > me, but I have on rare occasion been caught short--errr, should say long. > Dean likes the Tam SP 60-300 on the autotube for a butterfly kit. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:43:05 2009 Received: (qmail 2799 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:43:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:43:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63934E182EE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FE5E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1378F34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFC234AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.36]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL004LZRBMY280@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:42:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:42:57 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:42:57 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <96E93265F98D418DA0876B3F59A6C566@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIQAH6b10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmgnCHVrV4B4QIBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="312653018" References: <3B4DE1B7C0104A5B8808FD680BAEE53B@main> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:43:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7fe99161531342116753 CH ............. as usual, very engaging and interesting photos. Are you shooting freehand or are you using a monopod? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? > Yes, the bokeh of the 50-250 is not that pretty: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2808.jpg > > It is okay if you can avoid a busy background and shoot at the long end: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2774.jpg > > The edge to edge sharpness of the 50-250 at all focal lengths make it a > good > lens for landscapes. > > Tamron 70-210/3.5 and 60-300 are the lenses I would like to try but at > the monent I have a 65-200 waiting to test :-) > > C.H.Ling > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > >> Thanks Chuck, Moose, CH, Nathan, >> >> No news is good news. Perhaps JH will chime in. The price of this lens >> really has fluctuated. It was listed at $800 USD at KEH less than 2 >> years ago, >> now I see one >> at 300 in EX condition. Jeff grabbed one for cheap on yabe and sold it >> to >> me at cost, though it benefited from a CLA with John and has been fine. >> Not >> sure what these reports on FM are about--rear element issue. I checked >> mine >> last night--seems OK. >> >> I totally forgot a similar Tokina existed until Moose mentioned it. I >> think >> the Zuiko >> goes to 1:5 thereabouts at the 250 mm. I remember CH bokeh tests and >> the >> Z. >> 50-250 which can be busy, and can't say I've ever tried a macro with it. >> Perhaps at that FL the bokeh will be better. I usually have a macro >> lens >> with >> me, but I have on rare occasion been caught short--errr, should say >> long. >> Dean likes the Tam SP 60-300 on the autotube for a butterfly kit. >> >> Mike > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:44:18 2009 Received: (qmail 30933 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:44:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:44:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1733E1830D for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291D4E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944C19F09F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2994919F070 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32503 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 00:44:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:44:03 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <0914B73C-5974-4998-B588-869826D00BE0@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:44:08 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:44:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7fee2211591993019900 Oh, it's a Passat! Everything on one of those was pricey. Had a wagon once - threw a cam follower and stripped the belt - catastrophic failure. But it would cruise at 160kph nicely - seemed to be governed to a squeak over that. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/04/2009, at 9:51 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: > Wouldn't $110 in 1976 be like $1000 today? It seems like it was an > expensive > fix back then too. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:47:01 2009 Received: (qmail 5480 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:47:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:47:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CF9E18325 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3171CE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C44D19F0B9 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:46:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA9119F070 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5736 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 00:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 00:46:52 -0000 Message-ID: <49D7FF7B.7070608@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:46:51 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> <7A358CDD670749389810BD2AF16154A7@SueHome> <15F124E990F8453BB80B83734F70EF1C@hudson> In-Reply-To: <15F124E990F8453BB80B83734F70EF1C@hudson> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090404-0, 04/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:47:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d7ff85237561499373980 Three Pittsburgh police officers were killed today. They were the first police officers killed in the line of duty in Pittsburgh in 18 years. Meanwhile, about 110 Americans died in traffic accidents today which happens each and every day. But we don't fear driving. Chuck Norcutt John Hudson wrote: > > ps : Wiliam ............. avoid Pittsburgh, PA ............... site of > today's mass killing in the USA. You did ask ask about the safety in > visiting the USA. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:49:27 2009 Received: (qmail 25171 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:49:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:49:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028AEE182DF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F84E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1927119F0B9 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:49:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9873719F070 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:49:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6627 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 00:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 00:49:21 -0000 Message-ID: <49D80011.8040505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:49:21 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> <49D7A6BE.9060404@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090404-0, 04/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:49:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d80017310351073733319 Nope, the 5D will be toast. Did you forget that it's not environmentally sealed? Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> But he's probably sitting right on top of the Hayward Fault. Instead of >> floating out to sea he'll likely just fall straight into the abyss. :-) >> > > > But he can get noise-free images from deep in the abyss with his 5D. > > :) > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:56:47 2009 Received: (qmail 11939 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:56:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:56:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381E6E182FA for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E68E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3679234AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CD434AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-131.ctimail.com [61.93.57.131]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n350udsw027851 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:56:39 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n350udTN003499 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:56:39 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <4F25B493C7774A469C3DCD3647539C40@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <3B4DE1B7C0104A5B8808FD680BAEE53B@main> <96E93265F98D418DA0876B3F59A6C566@hudson> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:56:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:56:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d801ce1971035110158 Thank for looking and the comment, John. They were just freehand but I try to use shutter speed of 1/500s or above for such long lens, the portrait was even at 1/1600s (it was an error as I was just back from some stage shots so the ISO was at 640). C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hudson" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? > CH ............. as usual, very engaging and interesting photos. > > Are you shooting freehand or are you using a monopod? > > jh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C.H.Ling" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? > > >> Yes, the bokeh of the 50-250 is not that pretty: >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2808.jpg >> >> It is okay if you can avoid a busy background and shoot at the long end: >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2774.jpg >> >> The edge to edge sharpness of the 50-250 at all focal lengths make it a >> good >> lens for landscapes. >> >> Tamron 70-210/3.5 and 60-300 are the lenses I would like to try but at >> the monent I have a 65-200 waiting to test :-) >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> >>> Thanks Chuck, Moose, CH, Nathan, >>> >>> No news is good news. Perhaps JH will chime in. The price of this >>> lens >>> really has fluctuated. It was listed at $800 USD at KEH less than 2 >>> years ago, >>> now I see one >>> at 300 in EX condition. Jeff grabbed one for cheap on yabe and sold it >>> to >>> me at cost, though it benefited from a CLA with John and has been fine. >>> Not >>> sure what these reports on FM are about--rear element issue. I checked >>> mine >>> last night--seems OK. >>> >>> I totally forgot a similar Tokina existed until Moose mentioned it. I >>> think >>> the Zuiko >>> goes to 1:5 thereabouts at the 250 mm. I remember CH bokeh tests and >>> the >>> Z. >>> 50-250 which can be busy, and can't say I've ever tried a macro with >>> it. >>> Perhaps at that FL the bokeh will be better. I usually have a macro >>> lens >>> with >>> me, but I have on rare occasion been caught short--errr, should say >>> long. >>> Dean likes the Tam SP 60-300 on the autotube for a butterfly kit. >>> >>> Mike >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 02:59:50 2009 Received: (qmail 21832 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 00:59:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 00:59:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C1EE1830E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F8FE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD4D19F0DF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0A219F083 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 17:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL004GUS3KYB90@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:59:44 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:59:43 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 21:59:43 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <4381F5CF92124EECB8228BD71219DC09@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoPAG+f10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmwEIHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="449565469" References: <0914B73C-5974-4998-B588-869826D00BE0@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 02:59:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d80286122417350615338 Got 136,000 miles on the original set of Michellin X tires [tyres for you Andrew !!]. We had no problems with our German made VW. Perhaps your Passat was a GM Holden made clone masquerading as the real thing :-) jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Oh, it's a Passat! Everything on one of those was pricey. > Had a wagon once - threw a cam follower and stripped the belt - > catastrophic failure. > But it would cruise at 160kph nicely - seemed to be governed to a > squeak over that. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 05/04/2009, at 9:51 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: > >> Wouldn't $110 in 1976 be like $1000 today? It seems like it was an >> expensive >> fix back then too. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 03:03:03 2009 Received: (qmail 28097 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 01:03:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 01:03:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C35E182FE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EF0E2412F for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823F534AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:02:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06043610002 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:02:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip03.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.36]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL004FIS8WY290@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:02:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip03.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:02:55 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:02:55 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <608BA849600A466BAE35ABECF77A00C6@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoPACig10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmwDsHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="312659354" References: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> <7A358CDD670749389810BD2AF16154A7@SueHome> <15F124E990F8453BB80B83734F70EF1C@hudson> <49D7FF7B.7070608@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 03:03:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8034759629117217770 I think we should concentrate on matters photographic and suspend any further discussions about modern day OK Coral shoot outs ............. otherwise Wiliam might get cold feet altogether. OK ? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Three Pittsburgh police officers were killed today. They were the first > police officers killed in the line of duty in Pittsburgh in 18 years. > Meanwhile, about 110 Americans died in traffic accidents today which > happens each and every day. But we don't fear driving. > > Chuck Norcutt > > John Hudson wrote: >> >> ps : Wiliam ............. avoid Pittsburgh, PA ............... site of >> today's mass killing in the USA. You did ask ask about the safety in >> visiting the USA. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 03:15:50 2009 Received: (qmail 4960 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 01:15:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 01:15:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37815E182EE for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11410E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0437634AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:15:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7283234AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:15:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHL00CYWSU2B390@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:15:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-224-165-166.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.224.165.166]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:15:38 -0300 Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:15:37 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <7B1C0A10C82B4E0488BEB4E310823CE9@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIQAPOi10kY4KWm/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmgnCHVrV0B4QIBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="449569712" References: <3B4DE1B7C0104A5B8808FD680BAEE53B@main> <96E93265F98D418DA0876B3F59A6C566@hudson> <4F25B493C7774A469C3DCD3647539C40@main> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 03:15:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8064670331342116753 I see one or more umbrellas in the crowd but no obvious signs of rain or dampness on the ground. From the angle of the shadows, the sun looks to be low in the sky. Why the umbrellas do you think ? Where were the photos taken ? Despite an absence from HK of 30+ years I am continually curious about pinning a scene to a location within my memory. The more I see of your photos the more I am tempted to raid my pension fund for a one-time last visit ! jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? > Thank for looking and the comment, John. They were just freehand but I try > to use shutter speed of 1/500s or above for such long lens, the portrait > was > even at 1/1600s (it was an error as I was just back from some stage shots > so > the ISO was at 640). > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hudson" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:42 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? > > >> CH ............. as usual, very engaging and interesting photos. >> >> Are you shooting freehand or are you using a monopod? >> >> jh >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "C.H.Ling" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? >> >> >>> Yes, the bokeh of the 50-250 is not that pretty: >>> >>> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2808.jpg >>> >>> It is okay if you can avoid a busy background and shoot at the long end: >>> >>> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2774.jpg >>> >>> The edge to edge sharpness of the 50-250 at all focal lengths make it a >>> good >>> lens for landscapes. >>> >>> Tamron 70-210/3.5 and 60-300 are the lenses I would like to try but at >>> the monent I have a 65-200 waiting to test :-) >>> >>> C.H.Ling >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> >>>> Thanks Chuck, Moose, CH, Nathan, >>>> >>>> No news is good news. Perhaps JH will chime in. The price of this >>>> lens >>>> really has fluctuated. It was listed at $800 USD at KEH less than 2 >>>> years ago, >>>> now I see one >>>> at 300 in EX condition. Jeff grabbed one for cheap on yabe and sold >>>> it >>>> to >>>> me at cost, though it benefited from a CLA with John and has been >>>> fine. >>>> Not >>>> sure what these reports on FM are about--rear element issue. I >>>> checked >>>> mine >>>> last night--seems OK. >>>> >>>> I totally forgot a similar Tokina existed until Moose mentioned it. I >>>> think >>>> the Zuiko >>>> goes to 1:5 thereabouts at the 250 mm. I remember CH bokeh tests and >>>> the >>>> Z. >>>> 50-250 which can be busy, and can't say I've ever tried a macro with >>>> it. >>>> Perhaps at that FL the bokeh will be better. I usually have a macro >>>> lens >>>> with >>>> me, but I have on rare occasion been caught short--errr, should say >>>> long. >>>> Dean likes the Tam SP 60-300 on the autotube for a butterfly kit. >>>> >>>> Mike >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 03:18:56 2009 Received: (qmail 16831 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 01:18:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 01:18:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688F3E18305 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93CDE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E8C19F11B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:18:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC79B19F0F8 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:18:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1403722bwz.14 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:18:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.15 with SMTP id e15mr1022113bko.196.1238894330421; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:18:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D80011.8040505@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> <49D7A6BE.9060404@chucknorcutt.com> <49D80011.8040505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:18:50 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d8ba4c613b183a23 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 03:18:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d80700136241744846740 > > Nope, the 5D will be toast. Did you forget that it's not > environmentally sealed? > Hmm. Maybe the OM-3Ti or E-1 might last a little longer then. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 04:28:40 2009 Received: (qmail 23124 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 02:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 02:28:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7A6E182E2 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953D6E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCA719F227 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E23619F1D9 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.68]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20519 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Apr 2009 02:28:33 -0000 Message-ID: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sLyjFPsVM1kCRdeP2yDTTYig3uVheg.CzjJ45YAR5WA5KYlWcbpWc1vUJOXXJI6__lheEO0bUDh669R2YhISTUvlL5zhozdy3PH6A5beWx5k_gzqhZOYtyRXAYMW_k.NPtlnHSvTLvoUdWQ2GV74GQ97qMkDPl7.l2_yceKdWU_8bhzl3ehsSX74XVfAPtR4aZBF6XMh5ne7Hd_4Hbwh3Mm_jzC1RuB57CcTnDzxvptGwFPhhrqTiDot4_KtNpivlTAAaL4v0wc.EdSFdCE4ja510ryYtHNlDVbhnREuliCK7XRVUw_bpbj68sJf72Y5nKpa Received: from [68.142.242.59] by web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:28:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:28:33 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? 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(218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 02:40:23 -0000 In-Reply-To: <4381F5CF92124EECB8228BD71219DC09@hudson> References: <0914B73C-5974-4998-B588-869826D00BE0@people.net.au> <4381F5CF92124EECB8228BD71219DC09@hudson> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:40:27 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 04:40:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d81a2625614673671140 As if! Holdens of that vintage were bloated barges which left a trail of bits behind them. Now back on track - planning to be in England June and August, France in July. Anyone care to list the bits I should avoid due to economic depression, undue levels of violence or just because they too sodding boring to be worth the trouble? (Loughborough comes to mind...) :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/04/2009, at 10:59 AM, John Hudson wrote: > Got 136,000 miles on the original set of Michellin X tires [tyres > for you > Andrew !!]. We had no problems with our German made VW. > > Perhaps your Passat was a GM Holden made clone masquerading as the > real > thing :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 04:53:42 2009 Received: (qmail 4079 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 02:53:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 02:53:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CFBE1830A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540F7E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318E519F2B6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7997B19F2B5 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:53:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n352rYc8004483 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:53:34 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <3B4DE1B7C0104A5B8808FD680BAEE53B@main><96E93265F98D418DA0876B3F59A6C566@hudson><4F25B493C7774A469C3DCD3647539C40@main> <7B1C0A10C82B4E0488BEB4E310823CE9@hudson> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:52:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 04:53:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d81d36164371023412894 Yes, it was taken at 4:13pm but in Hong Kong there are too much sunlight already so people don't enjoy it much ;-) The photos were taken in Disneyland, I purchased an annual pass, this is the best place for photo practice and lens test :-) I belive you should really place a visit again, the old buildings are diminishing. I'm going to plan a street shooting for all the old stuffs. The last link I posted for the 21mm street shots was a trial: http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/21F2/21street.htm C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hudson" >I see one or more umbrellas in the crowd but no obvious signs of rain or > dampness on the ground. From the angle of the shadows, the sun looks to be > low in the sky. Why the umbrellas do you think ? > > Where were the photos taken ? Despite an absence from HK of 30+ years I am > continually curious about pinning a scene to a location within my memory. > > The more I see of your photos the more I am tempted to raid my pension > fund > for a one-time last visit ! > > jh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C.H.Ling" > >> Thank for looking and the comment, John. They were just freehand but I >> try >> to use shutter speed of 1/500s or above for such long lens, the portrait >> was >> even at 1/1600s (it was an error as I was just back from some stage shots >> so >> the ISO was at 640). >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hudson" >> >> >>> CH ............. as usual, very engaging and interesting photos. >>> >>> Are you shooting freehand or are you using a monopod? >>> >>> jh >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 05:20:22 2009 Received: (qmail 11710 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 03:20:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 03:20:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45094E18313 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6E0E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616CD19F333 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:20:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C2A19F31A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:20:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.c60.3e1e7c57 (37145) for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.149]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA037-5c6749d8236738; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:20:15 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-DZ16 (webmail-dz16.sim.aol.com [205.188.185.30]) by smtprly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB025-5c6749d8236738; Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:20:07 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:20:07 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.181 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42169-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com (205.188.185.30) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:20:07 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB83B48E151D9F-1024-2AA9@WEBMAIL-DZ16.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 05:20:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d82376280989347015869 Impressively nice and illustrative images. Thanks for posting them, CH. I have enjoyed using the 50-250 for landscapes with my shot filled bean bag. It will be more useful as a stealth telephoto with digital film or Portra 400 VC-3 or NC-3. Mike Yes, the bokeh of the 50-250 is not that pretty: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2808.jpg It is okay if you can avoid a busy background and shoot at the long end: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_2774.jpg The edge to edge sharpness of the 50-250 at all focal lengths make it a good lens for landscapes. Tamron 70-210/3.5 and 60-300 are the lenses I would like to try but at the monent I have a 65-200 waiting to test :-) C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 05:22:09 2009 Received: (qmail 16027 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 03:22:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 03:22:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CDBE18319 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE45E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BD419F337 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0CC19F31A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp2.localnet.com (extsmtp2.localnet.com [207.251.194.40]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6977 invoked by uid 1013); 5 Apr 2009 03:22:00 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by holster (envelope-from , uid 1005) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. Clear:RC:0(10.30.204.254):SA:0(3.4/5.0):. Processed in 0.102712 secs); 05 Apr 2009 03:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp2.localnet.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 03:22:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26684 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 03:22:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-14-19.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.14.19]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp5.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Apr 2009 03:22:12 -0000 From: Doug To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:25:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904042325.57410.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 05:22:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d823e1319203675314703 On Saturday, April 04, 2009 19:51, Chris Crawford wrote: > Wouldn't $110 in 1976 be like $1000 today? It seems like it was an > expensive fix back then too. Based of minimun wage in NY of $7.15 now and $2.85 then (I'm pretty sure that is what I earned in High school) the repair would be $275. I think US dollars were more or less on a par with Candian dollars then. > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > On 4/4/09 7:32 PM, "Sue Pearce" wrote: > > The local Esso station did all the necessary fix ups > > > >> ...... three days on the hoist all for $110 !. > > > > Ah, those days are long gone!! > > > > Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 05:22:40 2009 Received: (qmail 11464 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 03:22:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 03:22:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED294E182F6 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDFAE2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6DF19F33A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732B019F31A for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17353 invoked by uid 502); 5 Apr 2009 03:22:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.202.48) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 03:22:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49D823D0.1070400@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:21:52 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 05:22:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d82400319469117217770 John Hudson wrote: > http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/788.html > Might one assume that the pole is neither bowed nor leaning? Otherwise lovely. The cause of perspective distortion is obvious. What lens did the barrel distortion? > The gravel road seen in the photo dates back to Roman times. > Apparently, gravel wears well. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 05:46:02 2009 Received: (qmail 17216 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 03:46:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 03:46:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F44FE182FF for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56C2E2412E for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B095C34AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A7A34AC027 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp3.localnet.com (extsmtp3.localnet.com [207.251.201.55]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14384 invoked by uid 1011); 5 Apr 2009 03:45:54 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by bolster (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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Processed in 0.207067 secs); 05 Apr 2009 03:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp3.localnet.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 03:45:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 32377 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 03:46:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-14-19.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.14.19]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp5.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Apr 2009 03:46:06 -0000 From: Doug To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:50:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 05:46:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8297a56542046811720 I took my Polaroid sprintscan 4000 partially apart to clean the mirror in it. The question I have is how do I clean the mirror. It's dustier than I can just blow off and I don't want to blow the dust deeper into the scanner. The mirror appears to be a first surface mirror and I don't know what solvents I can use without damaging the metal. I also took what I believe to be the sensor off by mistake. Any opinions on realigning it. -Doug -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 07:43:58 2009 Received: (qmail 12904 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 05:43:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 05:43:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7C8E182F1 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5095CE24129 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446CB34AC041 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:43:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE4434AC025 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:43:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16295 invoked by uid 502); 5 Apr 2009 05:43:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.168.228) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 05:43:51 -0000 Message-ID: <49D84512.1010000@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:43:46 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D79F6C.6090806@interisland.net> <49D7A6BE.9060404@chucknorcutt.com> <49D80011.8040505@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 07:43:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8451e139871869477228 Ken Norton wrote: >> Nope, the 5D will be toast. Did you forget that it's not environmentally sealed > > Hmm. Maybe the OM-3Ti or E-1 might last a little longer then. > Thanks for the light entertainment. ;-) I suppose you know that the part of Calif. West of the San Andreas Fault isn't likely to fall. The Pacific Plate is moving North on its own, heading for Vancouver, BC. I'm not as sure about the Hayward Fault. I know movement along it in the last 150 years or more has been horizontal slippage, not vertical. Probably due to part of the No. Am. Plate being pulled along by the Pacific Plate on its way North. I'm also to the East of the Hayward, although only by a few hundred yards, I think. At least at almost 1000', I'm safe from even the direst estimated increase in sea level. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 10:08:40 2009 Received: (qmail 3944 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 08:08:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 08:08:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0BBE18317 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A49E24129 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A25534AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:08:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FDD34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:08:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 01:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so884859rvf.6 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:08:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.36.17 with SMTP id o17mr736664rvj.254.1238918913750; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:08:33 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 968f91d1630c08fa Message-ID: <60f983080904050108w671c632cib4914cf79e453e58@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 10:08:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8670821151869477228 Is it a good choice for 120 film printing except Rodenstock & Schneider? Thanks. --- Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 12:00:59 2009 Received: (qmail 9144 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 10:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 10:00:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847EE18312 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB01E24129 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3E834AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E989E34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:00:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHM005UGH5F7UG0@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:00:51 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-8-41.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.8.41]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:00:50 -0300 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:00:50 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <3DA8CB76469F471D85C6FD64B37D905D@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwNAMId2EkYiggp/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmvxgHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="461633897" References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D823D0.1070400@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 12:00:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8815b230082336821329 That pole has been standing for a year or three. A recent visitor left the year of his / her visit seen here: www.JohnHudsonPhoto.com/789.html The upright erection fix is curious but not right. The pole was not upright. I am visiting the area again this summer and will take some more photos. See here: http://www.brilwalks.com/familywalks/Stanage/Stanage.php and scroll down to the sixth row of thumbnails. Expand the rightmost thumbnail. Seen from a distance in the other direction from which I took my shot the pole is seen to be leaning. My shot was taken with a 12-60 on a E510. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Confession > John Hudson wrote: >> http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/788.html >> > > Might one assume that the pole is neither bowed nor leaning? > > Otherwise lovely. > > The cause of perspective distortion is obvious. What lens did the barrel > distortion? >> The gravel road seen in the photo dates back to Roman times. >> > > Apparently, gravel wears well. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 12:31:38 2009 Received: (qmail 19832 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 10:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 10:31:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12FFE182F8 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE1FE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB433610002 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BBA3610001 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1468242bwz.14 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:31:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.136 with SMTP id t8mr2617868fao.41.1238927490607; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:31:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0914B73C-5974-4998-B588-869826D00BE0@people.net.au> <4381F5CF92124EECB8228BD71219DC09@hudson> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:31:30 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 12:31:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8888a255761838542571 2009/4/5 Andrew Fildes : > Now back on track - planning to be in England June and August, France > in July. Anyone care to list the bits I should avoid due to economic > depression, undue levels of violence or just because they too sodding > boring to be worth the trouble? (Loughborough comes to mind...) :-) I'd avoid Northamptonshire altogether - nothing but old churches & canals, and we've seen it all before ;) -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 13:45:47 2009 Received: (qmail 29240 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 11:45:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 11:45:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC301E182E6 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D955E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3F119E0B5 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D2419E05B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25090 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 11:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 11:45:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49D899D7.3010606@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:45:27 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <64928D49CA664897972EDF7166118406@wiliam> <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> <7A358CDD670749389810BD2AF16154A7@SueHome> <15F124E990F8453BB80B83734F70EF1C@hudson> <49D7FF7B.7070608@chucknorcutt.com> <608BA849600A466BAE35ABECF77A00C6@hudson> In-Reply-To: <608BA849600A466BAE35ABECF77A00C6@hudson> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-0, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 13:45:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d899eb39591946193717 Agreed. Chuck Norcutt John Hudson wrote: > I think we should concentrate on matters photographic and suspend any > further discussions about modern day OK Coral shoot outs ............. > otherwise Wiliam might get cold feet altogether. OK ? > > jh -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 13:52:47 2009 Received: (qmail 4024 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 11:52:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 11:52:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02EEE18301 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E00E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FFF34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:52:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1CA34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 04:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHM00GF3MBOI921@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:52:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-8-41.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.8.41]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:52:35 -0300 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:52:35 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwNAMY32EkYiggp/2dsb2JhbACBS4hmvx8HhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,325,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="498458825" References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D823D0.1070400@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 13:52:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d89b8f225991993019900 Hi Moose ........ I was thinking. What made you think that the pole was shown to be leaning other than through barrel distortion. Hopefully my 12-60 is not a barrel distortion lens. The 14-45 kit lens was horrible for barrel distortion. Would you have come to the same conclusion had the shot been, say, of the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Now there is a challenge. How about finding a shot of the leaning tower and making it stand up straight and thus gain fame beyond that of Leonardo of Pisa :-) jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Confession > John Hudson wrote: >> http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/788.html >> > > Might one assume that the pole is neither bowed nor leaning? > > Otherwise lovely. > > The cause of perspective distortion is obvious. What lens did the barrel > distortion? >> The gravel road seen in the photo dates back to Roman times. >> > > Apparently, gravel wears well. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 14:14:05 2009 Received: (qmail 30484 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 12:14:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 12:14:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117D5E182E1 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85016E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6587A34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535F834AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26449 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 12:13:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 12:13:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <0914B73C-5974-4998-B588-869826D00BE0@people.net.au> <4381F5CF92124EECB8228BD71219DC09@hudson> Message-Id: <80F85D1F-2392-4A34-9D8B-20FC159F862F@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:13:53 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 14:14:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8a08d96281234514069 I was brought up about halfway between Loughborogh and Northamptonshire - why dya think I now live in Australia. Planning to take an E-520 Superzoom kit with me so I'll get you some pix from Banbury - narrow boats perhaps? :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 05/04/2009, at 8:31 PM, Ian Nichols wrote: >> Now back on track - planning to be in England June and August, France >> in July. Anyone care to list the bits I should avoid due to economic >> depression, undue levels of violence or just because they too sodding >> boring to be worth the trouble? (Loughborough comes to mind...) :-) > > I'd avoid Northamptonshire altogether - nothing but old churches & > canals, and we've seen it all before ;) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 14:47:05 2009 Received: (qmail 9562 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 12:47:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 12:47:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEEFE18310 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB4EE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0025919E1BB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:46:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821D19E1A6 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:46:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 05:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14240 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 12:46:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090405-0, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 14:47:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8a849191331234514069 Sorry, I can't help you with the sensor alignment. But I wouldn't worry about cleaning the mirror any more than cleaning a lens. You might try stroking it lightly with a small piece of Swiffer Duster if you have some. If you don't have any or that doesn't do it completely then I would swab it gently with a cotton swab and lens cleaner, alcohol or what have you. Do it multiple times using a clean swab each time. Modern first surface mirrors are tougher than most people realize. They are aluminized in a vacuum chamber by sputtering aluminum vapor onto the surface to form a thin coating. As soon as the aluminum is exposed to air the surface oxidizes to form a microscopically thin coating of aluminum oxide. You might recognize aluminum oxide as the stuff that grinding wheels are made of. So, while in an extremely thin layer, it's also very hard. It should easily stand up to any cleaning solution you might reasonably use on any other bit of optics. I think John Hermanson has spoken here of using bird feathers as a sweep. But I have none such. :-) Chuck Norcutt Doug wrote: > I took my Polaroid sprintscan 4000 partially apart to clean the mirror in it. > The question I have is how do I clean the mirror. It's dustier than I can > just blow off and I don't want to blow the dust deeper into the scanner. The > mirror appears to be a first surface mirror and I don't know what solvents I > can use without damaging the metal. > > I also took what I believe to be the sensor off by mistake. Any opinions on > realigning it. > -Doug -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 15:39:05 2009 Received: (qmail 6609 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 13:39:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 13:39:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70083E18303 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54498E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F34634AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCEC34AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:38:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp4.localnet.com (extsmtp4.localnet.com [207.251.201.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10787 invoked by uid 1011); 5 Apr 2009 13:37:09 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by bombastic (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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Processed in 0.296485 secs); 05 Apr 2009 13:37:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp4.localnet.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 13:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13107 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 13:39:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-7-78.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.7.78]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp5.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Apr 2009 13:39:09 -0000 From: Doug To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:43:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 15:39:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8b47912751073733319 On Sunday, April 05, 2009 08:46, Chuck Norcutt wrote: Thanks Chuck you told me what I wanted to know > Modern first surface mirrors are tougher than most people realize. They > are aluminized in a vacuum chamber by sputtering aluminum vapor onto the > surface to form a thin coating. As soon as the aluminum is exposed to > air the surface oxidizes to form a microscopically thin coating of > aluminum oxide. I hadn't thought about the aluminum oxidizing, but should have. I was concerned about cleaners attacking it chemically. When you mention aluminum oxide It's likely tougher than a lens coating. I think I may use rubbing alcohol because that is what I have. > You might recognize aluminum oxide as the stuff that > grinding wheels are made of. So, while in an extremely thin layer, it's > also very hard. It should easily stand up to any cleaning solution you > might reasonably use on any other bit of optics. > > I think John Hermanson has spoken here of using bird feathers as a > sweep. But I have none such. :-) There was a road killed goose down the road the other day, but gone now. Our cat hasn't caught one of the starlings despite a great desire to do so, nor has the neighbors beagle. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 15:58:41 2009 Received: (qmail 24267 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 13:58:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 13:58:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F380FE1830C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12EE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C9634AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:58:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24AF34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12652 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 13:58:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 13:58:33 -0000 Message-ID: <49D8B909.8030608@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:58:33 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> In-Reply-To: <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-0, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 15:58:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8b911273157927319144 My wife's family used to own a dog who chased the squirrels in the yard from the time he was a pup until he died. He would start barking the instant he saw the squirrel and, of course, the squirrels being thoroughly forewarned, he never caught one. If a starling is to be caught my money's on the cat. :-) Chuck Norcutt > Our cat hasn't caught one of the starlings despite a great desire to > do so, nor has the neighbors beagle. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 16:25:26 2009 Received: (qmail 1300 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 14:25:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 14:25:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5839E1830E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF74E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF99119E416 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560D119E40F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405142521.BVEK12725.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:25:21 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id bqRK1b00E4Z9Gks02qRKPQ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:25:19 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VxMW-fCnrgcA:10 a=Pvy_dfLLgsLtMilN2ocA:9 a=4Hyu3iIdSH-IMV_s-VzQ7W3nD7cA:4 a=M3PvEdNFSBYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:25:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 16:25:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8bf56198601585427447 > The question I have is how do I clean the mirror. It's dustier than I can > just blow off and I don't want to blow the dust deeper into the scanner. > The > mirror appears to be a first surface mirror and I don't know what solvents > I > can use without damaging the metal. Use the same solvents and swabs made for "sensor" cleaning. > > I also took what I believe to be the sensor off by mistake. Any opinions > on > realigning it. Good luck! Bill Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 16:26:23 2009 Received: (qmail 6801 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 14:26:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 14:26:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA979E18302 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6D8E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B25619E420 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:26:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43B019E40F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:26:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405142617.FOSN11273.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:26:17 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id bqSH1b0024Z9Gks02qSHAD; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:26:17 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mcHcnclPjYcA:10 a=PkCshYLbJhIA:10 a=glCL4q5AAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=bZGvp8owQSXRfUgkMGUA:9 a=Q9xHexCxiBAqOBy8-M0A:7 a=OIrRQmIPkFBj5syISnolpaxU1_cA:4 a=7mayv77iRtYA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <60f983080904050108w671c632cib4914cf79e453e58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:26:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 16:26:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8bf8f222511823421471 You bet, if it's the six element version. I've no experience with the four element budget nikkors, but I understand them to be soft. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wong" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:08 AM Subject: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens > Is it a good choice for 120 film printing except Rodenstock & Schneider? > > Thanks. > > > --- > Michael > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2041 - Release Date: 04/04/09 16:53:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 16:40:45 2009 Received: (qmail 6382 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 14:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 14:40:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2751E182F9 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28075E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118F934AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A3934AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.248]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1635848rvf.50 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.200.14 with SMTP id x14mr1666688rvf.55.1238942438197; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <60f983080904050108w671c632cib4914cf79e453e58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:40:38 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bea1651bdb568fa8 Message-ID: <60f983080904050740h18ae0a2cqdd56b1957a010db6@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 16:40:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8c2ed119374673671140 Bill, Thanks. It's hard to find a suitable one at eBay. I search B&H & found near USD400 including shipping for Rodenstock Rodgon or Schnedier componon enlarger lens, it's very expensive :-( --- Michael 2009/4/5 Sue Pearce > You bet, if it's the six element version. I've no experience with the four > element budget nikkors, but I understand them to be soft. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Wong" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:08 AM > Subject: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens > > > > Is it a good choice for 120 film printing except Rodenstock & Schneider? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2041 - Release Date: 04/04/09 > 16:53:00 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 17:03:17 2009 Received: (qmail 22073 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 15:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 15:03:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74253E1830E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7123E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FE034AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:03:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C7034AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54DC461611 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:23:55 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9AEAEA5E-DC98-4166-A51C-6F9FC9B9B669@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:03:07 +0100 References: <9AEAEA5E-DC98-4166-A51C-6F9FC9B9B669@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/04/2009: tango in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 17:03:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8c835161282336821329 Thanks for that Nathan. We have not seen all Spain's cities, lacking C=E1diz and Barcelona, = for instance. But Granada is really a wonderful place. If you = haven't been there, I suggest seeing the Alhambra at sunset from the = Mirador above the Albaic=EDn; the Sierra Nevada looks good from there as = well if the visibility is good. Have fun! Chris On 4 Apr 2009, at 18:10, Nathan wrote: > I am spending this weekend in the Sierra Nevada in Andalucia. My wife > and children wanted to go skiing one last time this season. Since I > don't ski, I spent the day in Granada (just 30 km away), my first > visit there. From what I have seen today, this is Spain's most > impressive city, a place where history is palpable and the > architecture beautiful. But as always, it is the people that make the > place what it is. The good people of Granada will dance tango on a > busy square as long there is music and the sun is shining: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#505125595_3bv9q-O-LB -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 17:17:46 2009 Received: (qmail 32442 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 15:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 15:17:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A20EE18312 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADD8E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295CF19E527 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40C619E510 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3EE31409C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C043314094 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D8CB94.2020104@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:17:40 -0700 From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1OlympusList X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Snow 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 17:17:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8cb9a167291342116753 > last 150 years or more has been horizontal slippage... Ah! New neighbors then. Here we are just above the area the models predict the tsunami from the _Big One_ will hit. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 17:26:34 2009 Received: (qmail 7280 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 15:26:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 15:26:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625E1E1830D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576ECE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4F319E582 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D11319E500 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405152628.DKBJ12725.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:26:28 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id brST1b0074Z9Gks02rSTtX; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:26:27 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mcHcnclPjYcA:10 a=PkCshYLbJhIA:10 a=glCL4q5AAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=-EWzKmPziSRo5v2gWIEA:9 a=yBFPjmIHLmOOfcOIQH0A:7 a=4k8XYH79EBLNheuj6RPL0xGrsTcA:4 a=0dRpvnS4h04A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <208E9877020A4C3E845E6931D3DB7814@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <60f983080904050108w671c632cib4914cf79e453e58@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080904050740h18ae0a2cqdd56b1957a010db6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:26:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 17:26:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8cdaa117297350615338 Michael,] Here's a tip. I don't know where you live, but are there any prolabs closing nearby? That's how I got a 90mm apoRodagon for $35. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wong" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens > Bill, > Thanks. It's hard to find a suitable one at eBay. I search B&H & found > near > USD400 including shipping for Rodenstock Rodgon or Schnedier componon > enlarger lens, it's very expensive :-( > > > --- > Michael > > > > > 2009/4/5 Sue Pearce > >> You bet, if it's the six element version. I've no experience with the >> four >> element budget nikkors, but I understand them to be soft. >> >> Bill Pearce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael Wong" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:08 AM >> Subject: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens >> >> >> > Is it a good choice for 120 film printing except Rodenstock & >> > Schneider? >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Michael >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2041 - Release Date: >> 04/04/09 >> 16:53:00 >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 17:27:16 2009 Received: (qmail 26076 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 15:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 15:27:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAE7E1830B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F317E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A9634AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:27:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D0834AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1520751bwz.14 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.119.133 with SMTP id z5mr1269010bkq.86.1238945229798; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:27:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 739ccdbab607ecfb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 17:27:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8cdd435171234514069 > > Pittsburgh is a great city. Awesome lively waterfront. Unfortunately one > person gives it a bad image. This senseless violence is a sign of the times. This kind of senseless violence has been a sign of times since time began. It's just more publicized now. Actually, with the increase in population and heightened awareness, it can be argued that this kind of violence is at an all time low. I think the biggest problem today is that we don't have duels like we did in the olden days. Duels were a great way of thinning the herd. But how this has anything to do with Olympus, I'm clueless. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:17:06 2009 Received: (qmail 6415 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:17:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:17:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3B0E18300 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCBFE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9A534AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FAE34AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (smtp01.online.nl [194.134.41.31]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5206B8E2CF for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:56 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:53 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <12FC09E15F334CCF959484B85A190F72@hudson> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp01.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:17:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8d98265241234514069 I took the cable car ride indeed, but I beliebe it was called "hell's gate" at the time. Impressive masses of water coming through the canyon. We camped about 5 miles up the road in the direction of Cargary. I still have memories of the Canada trip being the best vacation yet ;-) We were there for 6 weeks, had an RV vor the whole month of June, drove 7230 km, burning over 2100 litres of premium gasoline in the 5.7 liter engine, ouch! My mother in law came with us because we visited our uncle. He also doubled as guide on Vancouver island in his car and during the trip in the RV to Winipeg and back. We celebrated the first birthday of our daughtr in Jasper. Good memories. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 0:46 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Back in late 1976 I shipped a 1977 VW Dasher Wagon from > London to Vancouver > and then drove it to Calgary in the dead of winter. At Litton > in the Fraser > Canyon I ran over a rock in the road, twice the size of a > basketball, and > took out the oil pan. The local Esso station did all the > necessary fix ups > ...... three days on the hoist all for $110 !. I do have some > long memories > of the Fraser Canyon. You did take a ride on the Devils > Canyon cable car > ride across the Fraser Canyon not far from Litton? > > jh > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:56 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > Thanks for the topography lessons John. > > > > We loved the Fraser and Thompson canyon when we visited > Canada back in > > '91. > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:48 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> Within Canada, BC is frequently referred to as "Lotus Land" and > >> especially the "Lower Mainland" at the mouth of the Fraser River, > >> site of metro Vancouver. > >> > >> Likewise, Alberta is known as "God's Country", Toronto as > "Hogtown" > >> and before anyone else chirps in, Calgary is "Cowtown". Few > >> other places matter > >> .....:-)) > >> > >> jh > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > >> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:25 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> > Hi John, > >> > > >> > I don't understand Lotus Land here. I only know of Lotus > >> victims where > >> > people act as victims of an accident or crime to train > the medical > >> > people helping them. > >> > > >> > Things can come close indeed. Your remark made me think back of > >> > Christmas three years ago when a divorced man smothered both his > >> > children and then hung himself. The house where all that happened > >> > > >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> >> Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > >> >> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 23:12 > >> >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Not at all nice and definitely not nice for Lotus Land ! > >> >> > >> >> It all took place within three blocks of where we once lived. > >> >> > >> >> jh > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Mike Lazzari" > >> >> To: "1" > >> >> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:08 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > > >> >> >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on > >> the streets > >> >> > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The > >> last month in > >> >> > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. > >> >> > > >> >> > Mike > >> >> > -- > >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > >> >> > Options: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> >> > Archives: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> >> Archives: > http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:23:34 2009 Received: (qmail 10609 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:23:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:23:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3657E182E3 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6692CE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7019E664 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43A819E65D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37B72E56BD8 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k1QlcW5-XeQG for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78642E56BCD for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <54578FEB-1E8D-4925-B4DC-D4502BE62A51@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:20 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:23:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8db06207921744846740 > From: Chris Barker > > I despair of the willingness of the Government to > acquiesce to the installation of more and more "security" measures ... I think Ben said it best: :::: They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:24:03 2009 Received: (qmail 14543 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:24:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:24:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AA3E18181 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7F7E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58DB34AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FAB34AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (eastrmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.240.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405162343.JPZE4619.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:23:43 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id bsPj1b0044Z9Gks02sPjtD; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:23:43 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xjW31z2RAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=6JFA7MOnW5Zu-E87PTwA:9 a=e21YE8KGHf_ovXZUazgA:7 a=wOD17JSYxBpdGvowpcsnO490s6oA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=IKds56vswl8A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:23:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:24:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8db23253111234514069 I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> Pittsburgh is a great city. Awesome lively waterfront. Unfortunately one >> person gives it a bad image. This senseless violence is a sign of the >> times. > > > This kind of senseless violence has been a sign of times since time began. > It's just more publicized now. Actually, with the increase in population > and heightened awareness, it can be argued that this kind of violence is > at > an all time low. > > I think the biggest problem today is that we don't have duels like we did > in > the olden days. Duels were a great way of thinning the herd. > > But how this has anything to do with Olympus, I'm clueless. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:25:00 2009 Received: (qmail 30373 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:24:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A41E182FF for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4D7E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4BF19E667 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18F819E64D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41824A185 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:24:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:24:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:24:51 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <608BA849600A466BAE35ABECF77A00C6@hudson> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:25:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8db5c255262046811720 I just had my feet warmed in the sun all afternoon! The warmth in my feet from the sun and in my mind from your answers will hold until after my US trip ;-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John Hudson [mailto:OM4T@eastlink.ca] > Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 3:03 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I think we should concentrate on matters photographic and suspend any > further discussions about modern day OK Coral shoot outs > ............. > otherwise Wiliam might get cold feet altogether. OK ? > > jh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:46 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > Three Pittsburgh police officers were killed today. They were the > > first police officers killed in the line of duty in > Pittsburgh in 18 > > years. Meanwhile, about 110 Americans died in traffic > accidents today > > which happens each and every day. But we don't fear driving. > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > > John Hudson wrote: > >> > >> ps : Wiliam ............. avoid Pittsburgh, PA > ............... site > >> of today's mass killing in the USA. You did ask ask about > the safety > >> in visiting the USA. > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:26:26 2009 Received: (qmail 1364 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:26:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34563E18201 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A714E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A74D19E67C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:26:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9762A19E671 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:26:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (smtp06.online.nl [194.134.42.51]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp06.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF409627C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:26:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp06.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:26:19 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:26:17 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp06.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:26:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8dbb2218511073733319 Your D3 will need a telelens double the length of the E-3's to shoot straight enough to win ;-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] > Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 18:24 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Norton" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:27 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > > >> Pittsburgh is a great city. Awesome lively waterfront. > Unfortunately > >> one person gives it a bad image. This senseless violence > is a sign of > >> the times. > > > > > > This kind of senseless violence has been a sign of times since time > > began. It's just more publicized now. Actually, with the > increase in > > population and heightened awareness, it can be argued that > this kind > > of violence is at an all time low. > > > > I think the biggest problem today is that we don't have > duels like we > > did > > in > > the olden days. Duels were a great way of thinning the herd. > > > > But how this has anything to do with Olympus, I'm clueless. > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release > Date: 04/05/09 > 10:54:00 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:31:31 2009 Received: (qmail 6326 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:31:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:31:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1340E1830B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58158E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A18134AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA3034AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBDA2E56CAA for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VBquMBVn-w2E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F092E56C98 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:31:21 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:31:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8dce3247091035110158 > From: Mike Lazzari >> >> Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets > Hmm... sure you don't mean Vancouver or Toronto? The last month in > Vancouver has been carnage on the street. I just read that, since the Friday shootings of the citizenship students, the US has had more people die so far this year in such events than happened in all of last year. Of course, any individual's chance of being involved in such a thing is vanishingly small. But put the Second Amendment together with massive unemployment and homelessness, and I fear it's a recipe for Rwanda. The US is awash in guns, as well as increasing numbers of frustrated, angry, hopeless people with lots of time on their hands. And the following came up totally at random: :::: The income gap between the rich and the rest of the US population has been growing so fast, that it might eventually threaten the stability of democratic capitalism itself. -- Alan Greenspan :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:34:15 2009 Received: (qmail 25622 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2532CE1830F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C78E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384B234AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E9334AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7E72E56CD3 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8-HJuBQfTDRC for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0972E56CC4 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <49114A67-F3D1-4229-B18A-2F8A5FE7F0F0@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:34:03 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:34:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8dd87181182070262475 > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > > Hoover dam was already on the to > must see list. We just added red rock canyon to the want to see list. If you're that close, and enjoy natural splendour, you've got to go to Zion, Bryce, Arches, Monument Valley, etc. > I > understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US (or > elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If "water is the next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. :::: You can't solve a problem with the same kind of thinking that created it in the first place. -- Albert Einstein :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 18:46:43 2009 Received: (qmail 7153 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 16:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 16:46:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AC9E182F9 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21FEE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC66519E71C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:46:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F4019E61E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 20 days 21:10:53 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-47-104.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.47.104]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n35GkMsB015972 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:46:25 -0300 Message-ID: <49D8E05E.6040004@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:46:22 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> In-Reply-To: <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 18:46:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8e073134345368819438 Do you think mine has any chance? small: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3414335155/ large (1280): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3605/3414335155_8cddd8ccf5_o.jpg :-) Fernando. Doug wrote: > > nor has the neighbors beagle. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 19:59:51 2009 Received: (qmail 26028 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 17:59:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 17:59:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88B4E18315 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E70BE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6452D19E867 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:59:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C9519E85F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:59:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2938D461604 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:20:30 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <42835342-1CAF-456C-B441-C6ED531D5D7C@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49114A67-F3D1-4229-B18A-2F8A5FE7F0F0@Bytesmiths.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:59:42 +0100 References: <49114A67-F3D1-4229-B18A-2F8A5FE7F0F0@Bytesmiths.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 19:59:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8f197187018512572685 I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our existence. But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. Chris On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: >> I >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US >> (or >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If "water is the > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:24:25 2009 Received: (qmail 13947 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:24:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:24:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE5AE18181 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063DEE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C2E19E90B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E555C19E928 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1554546fxm.14 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.119.133 with SMTP id z5mr1319482bkq.86.1238955856327; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:24:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:24:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b19a12be304acc08 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:24:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8f75980062070262475 > > And the following came up totally at random: > > :::: The income gap between the rich and the rest of the US population > has been growing so fast, that it might eventually threaten the > stability of democratic capitalism itself. -- Alan Greenspan :::: > Ah, but never dismiss nature's way of correcting unbalanced situations. All it took was for a Bernard Madoff to equalize things for a number of those rich. Throughout the coarse of history there has always been the haves and have-nots. A thriving middle-class is actually quite an abnormal condition. Our current economic "crisis" is just part of the cyclical nature of how the economy works. This recession was not caused by the housing crisis, but was caused by the obscene increase in energy costs in 2008. Too much of our discretionary spending went to paying for gas instead of buying things. This was true for both individuals and corporations. This slowdown in spending on non-energy items is what precipitated this recession. The housing/banking crisis was caused by the huge number of refinancing that happened several years ago during the housing boom when too many people got those ARM mortgages because they thought they'd spin the house prior to the rate increase. Housing sales slowed down and interest rates were too high to pay. The gamblers (and idiots who didn't understand what an ARM is) couldn't afford the mortgages and gas. The last two mortgages (and refinances) that I've gotten, the banker types were heavily pushing ARMs and would specifically ask "How long do you plan on staying in this house before selling it and buying another house?" If the answer was anything other than "many years", they were praising ARMs like crazy. I always had to stand my ground. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:27:37 2009 Received: (qmail 18543 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:27:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:27:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2155FE18181 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68918E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C9234AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:27:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3707534AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:27:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1555327fxm.14 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:27:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.58.9 with SMTP id e9mr1326595bkh.23.1238956047877; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:27:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:27:27 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 437a8d9a5e4c6b73 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:27:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8f819112121499373980 > > I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. > I don't need to throw the gauntlet down. I can handle my E-1 with my gloves still on. Will the ballistic-nylon used in the Lowe-Pro camera bags stop bullets? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:33:55 2009 Received: (qmail 29645 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:33:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:33:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67559E182F3 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730FFE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CBF19E971 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:33:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF2919E976 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:33:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout026.mac.com (asmtpout026.mac.com [17.148.16.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:33:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp026.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHN004G94VZFD70@asmtp026.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <293692F21B134D45854CEF632368619E@jimnichols> X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:33:35 +0200 References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> <293692F21B134D45854CEF632368619E@jimnichols> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:33:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8f993287661234514069 Thanks Jim! / Johan 2 apr 2009 kl. 22.09 skrev Jim Nichols: > Johan, > > That is a nice image. You did a great job. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Johan Malmstr=F6m" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:04 PM > Subject: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change > > >> As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) >> >> Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my >> cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one >> does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her >> place. :) >> >> http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html >> >> OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala >> >> Enjoy! / Johan >> -- = >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:43:26 2009 Received: (qmail 22700 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:43:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:43:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED422E182F1 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF0BE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE4B34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B09734AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:43:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHN00I7L5C57P00@asmtp029.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1693918D-778B-46F5-925E-5FB8AA135B93@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <49D54F4D.4020100@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:43:16 +0200 References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> <49D54F4D.4020100@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:43:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8fbce250825368819438 This is on the island H=F6n=F6, Sweden. ( 57=B040'50.30"N, 11=B038'35.67"O= ) = West of Gothenburg on the Swedish west coast. My cousin and her husband built their house after the photos for for = google earth was taken so the images for google earth is pre 2006. I've never been to Helsinki, Finland so I don't know if your memory is = correct :) Thanks! / Johan 3 apr 2009 kl. 01.50 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > Very nice! Where is this? It reminds me a bit of Helsinki harbor. = > But > my memory may be faulty. I haven't been to Helsinki in almost 25 = > years. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) >> >> Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my >> cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one >> does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her >> place. :) >> >> http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html >> >> OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala >> >> Enjoy! / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:44:57 2009 Received: (qmail 27842 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:44:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:44:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0C9E182FB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED1E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7B734AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:44:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F1534AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:44:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:44:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHN00I1F5EOUZ60@asmtp024.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <5D8D5306-A7E6-401F-822E-545F50693788@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <49D5848C.8020806@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:44:48 +0200 References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> <49D5848C.8020806@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:44:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8fc29268298512572685 LOL The colours will come, I just need to figure out how to handle colour = photos in vuescan. Thanks! / Johan 3 apr 2009 kl. 05.37 skrev Moose: > Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >> ... >> Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my = >> cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, = >> one does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at = >> her place. :) >> > > All that winter - and then they only have a B&W summer? I don't = > think I > could take it. :-) > >> http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html >> > > Nice image. I hope you will soon be able to afford somewhere colorful > for your summer vacation. > > Moose > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:45:31 2009 Received: (qmail 5130 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:45:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:45:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2197CE182EC for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F221DE24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D4E19E9D1 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC70819E93D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHN00I1F5EOUZ60@asmtp024.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1769A49F-080A-4E63-B46A-07368BD667B9@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <60f983080904022134vdb066b1vc4847012a0533c52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:45:19 +0200 References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> <60f983080904022134vdb066b1vc4847012a0533c52@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:45:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8fc4b130211234514069 Thank you Michael! / Johan 3 apr 2009 kl. 06.34 skrev Michael Wong: > Nice shot! It's a great job, the cloud is very 3D :P > > > --- > Michael > > > > > 2009/4/3 Johan Malmstr=F6m > >> As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) >> >> Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my >> cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one >> does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her >> place. :) >> >> http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html >> >> OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala >> >> Enjoy! / Johan >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:47:49 2009 Received: (qmail 15326 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:47:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D264E182E3 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76509E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F2E34AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D593734AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:47:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.12] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHN00K0J5JF1240@asmtp024.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <9063CAA2-AA69-46A6-AE6E-DE5FD2E5CD5B@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <912E6F94-C080-43F4-87BC-D3697D3B0B37@threeshoes.net> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:47:38 +0200 References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> <912E6F94-C080-43F4-87BC-D3697D3B0B37@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:47:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8fcd5280002336821329 This is far west in Sweden, but actually not facing west but looking = south from this westerly point. Thanks Chris! / Johan 3 apr 2009 kl. 07.14 skrev Chris Barker: > That looks great, Johan. Is that facing west, or thereabouts? > > Chris > > On 2 Apr 2009, at 21:04, Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > >> As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) >> >> Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my >> cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one >> does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her >> place. :) >> >> http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html >> >> OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 20:56:57 2009 Received: (qmail 20561 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 18:56:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 18:56:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE69E18310 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EF7E24130 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A3A34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D4134AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:56:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14752 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 18:56:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 18:56:49 -0000 Message-ID: <49D8FEF0.6090404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:56:48 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8E05E.6040004@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <49D8E05E.6040004@adinet.com.uy> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-0, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 20:56:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d8fef9171309117217770 If course, the birds will see him as a gentle, Snoopy-like beagle and fail to realize until too late that he is a ferocious hunting dog not to be trifled with. :-) Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Do you think mine has any chance? > > small: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3414335155/ > > large (1280): > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3605/3414335155_8cddd8ccf5_o.jpg > > :-) > > Fernando. > > > Doug wrote: >> >> nor has the neighbors beagle. >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 21:07:43 2009 Received: (qmail 18805 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 19:07:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 19:07:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF44E182E2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAA2E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA6734AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:07:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5005834AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:07:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1565196fxm.14 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:07:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.15 with SMTP id e15mr1325868bko.196.1238958454886; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:07:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D8FEF0.6090404@chucknorcutt.com> References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8E05E.6040004@adinet.com.uy> <49D8FEF0.6090404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:07:34 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1ca6ee2c7c881027 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 21:07:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9017f140251529615919 > > If course, the birds will see him as a gentle, Snoopy-like beagle and > fail to realize until too late that he is a ferocious hunting dog not to > be trifled with. :-) > We have birds around here that would consider anything smaller than a Great Dane to be a nice meal. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 21:11:45 2009 Received: (qmail 415 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 19:11:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 19:11:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F49BE182EB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DB6E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1273E19EA7D for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661E219EA7A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21884 invoked by uid 504); 5 Apr 2009 19:11:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Apr 2009 19:11:38 -0000 Message-ID: <49D9026A.30400@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:11:38 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <0D35DB1B-326E-49B5-A805-36E1FD8F34BA@mac.com> <49D54F4D.4020100@chucknorcutt.com> <1693918D-778B-46F5-925E-5FB8AA135B93@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <1693918D-778B-46F5-925E-5FB8AA135B93@mac.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-0, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photo] Summer for a change X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 21:11:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d90271173617350615338 I just looked on line and can find photos of Helsinki harbor with lots = of building and boats. But what I'm recalling lies just outside the = harbor (you have to be on a boat to see it) and is a lot of small = islands and large rocks just like your link below. I probably have = photos but they're likely on K64 somewhere all shot with an OM-1. It = was a long time ago. Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > This is on the island H=F6n=F6, Sweden. ( 57=B040'50.30"N, 11=B038'35.67= "O) = > West of Gothenburg on the Swedish west coast. > My cousin and her husband built their house after the photos for for = > google earth was taken so the images for google earth is pre 2006. > = > I've never been to Helsinki, Finland so I don't know if your memory is = > correct :) > = > Thanks! > / Johan > = > = > 3 apr 2009 kl. 01.50 skrev Chuck Norcutt: > = >> Very nice! Where is this? It reminds me a bit of Helsinki harbor. = >> But >> my memory may be faulty. I haven't been to Helsinki in almost 25 = >> years. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: >>> As you may guessed, I and the scanner is having some quality time :) >>> >>> Here's a photo from last summer. A small panorama made from my >>> cousins deck. This is also a part of the view from her bathroom, one >>> does not need a book to read when having a minute of relief at her >>> place. :) >>> >>> http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/photo006.html >>> >>> OM-4Ti, Fuji Reala >>> >>> Enjoy! / Johan >> -- = >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 22:32:58 2009 Received: (qmail 26211 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 20:32:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 20:32:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB8BE18313 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5BFE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1BC34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:32:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1819734AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:32:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao103.cox.net (eastrmmtao103.cox.net [68.230.240.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405203250.WXKH21373.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:32:50 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id bwYq1b0054Z9Gks02wYq0V; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:32:50 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=xjW31z2RAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=EODhZoOEyxRe9YFduKoA:9 a=Hv3LxG2EYlQ76zmZ4EIA:7 a=6q5e28W_WWgaZ8tlhXM2RCCK9wIA:4 a=72oxJoRhc8oA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=IKds56vswl8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <91EDCA3C56134DE8A8B5406230C0925C@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:32:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 22:32:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9157a134921585427447 Meant sir, not sit. never said I was a typist. not much as aproofreader, either. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Norton" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:27 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> > >>> Pittsburgh is a great city. Awesome lively waterfront. Unfortunately one >>> person gives it a bad image. This senseless violence is a sign of the >>> times. >> >> >> This kind of senseless violence has been a sign of times since time >> began. >> It's just more publicized now. Actually, with the increase in population >> and heightened awareness, it can be argued that this kind of violence is >> at >> an all time low. >> >> I think the biggest problem today is that we don't have duels like we did >> in >> the olden days. Duels were a great way of thinning the herd. >> >> But how this has anything to do with Olympus, I'm clueless. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 > 10:54:00 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 22:34:47 2009 Received: (qmail 17055 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 20:34:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 20:34:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FB3E18317 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A46EE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F8934AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B53A34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:34:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (eastrmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.240.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405203443.PFBP4619.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:34:43 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id bwah1b00H4Z9Gks02wahSp; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:34:41 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7KDZsWndAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=sTpmw8Qq1uEv8iq0DUYA:9 a=sk6wpw-15DH8f_k0LbIA:7 a=NWcEJt9lXEyUf81y50yhYMfm4OgA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=YLE7H5wRqG0A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <9985E294CBB543C6A5788103070644F4@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49114A67-F3D1-4229-B18A-2F8A5FE7F0F0@Bytesmiths.com> <42835342-1CAF-456C-B441-C6ED531D5D7C@threeshoes.net> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:34:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 22:34:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d915e746061234514069 I would have said tastelessness, but I hate the place. Can't stand to be at the adult Disneyland. BIll Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to > humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our > existence. > > But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. > > Chris > > On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: > >>> I >>> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US >>> (or >>> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. >> >> Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If "water is the >> next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 22:36:38 2009 Received: (qmail 3321 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 20:36:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 20:36:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A768CE18304 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33748E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD0534AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:36:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2DE34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405203632.HWRN1731.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:36:32 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id bwcX1b00K4Z9Gks02wcYNk; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:36:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4fba7iCOZc8PBeBV_nYA:9 a=HvZ1iuSCmkn3FAHTCdNHMofOzqsA:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com><9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:36:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 22:36:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d916562911869477228 > Will the ballistic-nylon used in the Lowe-Pro camera bags stop bullets? > > AG Bullets, no. Pixels and photons, yes. BIlll pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 23:07:44 2009 Received: (qmail 22453 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 21:07:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 21:07:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DB5E18301 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27660E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0354B34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BA934AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:07:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (smtp07.online.nl [194.134.42.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8414982FB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:07:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:07:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:07:34 +0200 Message-ID: <88679013F25744FF88443FE703D53F89@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <42835342-1CAF-456C-B441-C6ED531D5D7C@threeshoes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 23:07:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d91da0271789117217770 Hi Chris, At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic photo opportinities to be found also. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to > humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our > existence. > > But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. > > Chris > > On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: > > >> I > >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US > >> (or > >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > > > > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If > "water is the > > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 23:32:01 2009 Received: (qmail 22911 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 21:32:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 21:32:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EDDE1830A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C176EE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A5834AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:31:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B760C34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7726 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 21:31:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 21:31:47 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <524C47F7-5C64-4F63-9E3A-BB37496ADE9A@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:31:51 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 23:32:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d92351139465368819438 I really don't 'get' this one - if the rich are just as bloody stupid about these things as the rest of us, why then are they rich? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 4:24 AM, Ken Norton wrote: > Ah, but never dismiss nature's way of correcting unbalanced > situations. All > it took was for a Bernard Madoff to equalize things for a number of > those > rich. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 5 23:32:42 2009 Received: (qmail 24851 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 21:32:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 21:32:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43643E182FF for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBFDE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A9A34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED3734AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7782 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2009 21:32:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 21:32:29 -0000 In-Reply-To: <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:32:34 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 5 23:32:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9237a278345368819438 Don't take the bait, whatever you do. He's planning to clout you with it. It's MUCH heavier! Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 2:23 AM, Sue Pearce wrote: > I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 00:50:04 2009 Received: (qmail 8003 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 22:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 22:50:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36606E18304 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDD2E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611F919EED8 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741B219EECF for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.237]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n35Mnphc000424 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:49:51 +1000 Message-Id: <200904052249.n35Mnphc000424@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:49:50 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:49:51 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 00:50:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9359c254951946193717 > Jan Steinman wrote: > > I just read that, since the Friday shootings of the citizenship > students, the US has had more people die so far this year in such > events than happened in all of last year. > I wonder if that's statistically significant ? I guess it is if you're a victim. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 01:03:53 2009 Received: (qmail 10138 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 23:03:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 23:03:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C76AE18310 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA02E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19BF34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E3734AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405230346.NOMH12725.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:03:46 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id bz3l1b0024Z9Gks02z3l75; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:03:45 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=7KDZsWndAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=3ScvC-LB0KA2PAZ7xcUA:9 a=5SAc8t29JFQVxohRj08A:7 a=8N4ojA-8J5fIbCwT50ubEa9fr9cA:4 a=f3vTY2RCmVgA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=YLE7H5wRqG0A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <765EBC9902FA44A69B7BB206B0A8702D@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <88679013F25744FF88443FE703D53F89@wiliam> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:03:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 01:03:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d938d958061702588592 If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the Peppermill. It is something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected to a Denny's. Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Hi Chris, > > At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. For > the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to LV. > Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the first > night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of wastefulness, > but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic photo opportinities > to be found also. > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] >> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to >> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our >> existence. >> >> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. >> >> Chris >> >> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: >> >> >> I >> >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place else in the US >> >> (or >> >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. >> > >> > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If >> "water is the >> > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 01:04:23 2009 Received: (qmail 29102 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 23:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 23:04:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA36E182E3 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74612E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AA934AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09D634AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:04:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090405230409.RGSK11273.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:04:09 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id bz4A1b0034Z9Gks02z4Asj; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:04:10 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ur40MZUyAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=KMAc0ZMz5GIl5z_T0MQA:9 a=VHeRePSMJ0ydHNa-O78A:7 a=Tsl8H0V-6Ejf2vbW609tPZlEpDoA:4 a=ndTQkonOMSIA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com><9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:04:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 01:04:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d938f7325161591313764 Bingo!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Don't take the bait, whatever you do. He's planning to clout you with > it. It's MUCH heavier! > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/04/2009, at 2:23 AM, Sue Pearce wrote: > >> I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 01:55:59 2009 Received: (qmail 7247 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 2009 23:55:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Apr 2009 23:55:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6BEE18319 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F117E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495F834AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:55:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97CF34AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:55:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 16:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n35NtXXJ014880; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 23:55:36 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:55:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 01:55:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9450f172997927319144 >From time to time we get some creatures from the wild that visit our neighborhood. I had noticed that the signs of digging in the sunflower hulls beneath our feeders seemed to be beyond a squirrel's capabilities. My wife noticed this fellow venturing out in the late afternoon and digging away until I disturbed it by trying to get a photo. It left the open area and headed for the safety of our barn, knowing I could not harm it before it could reach a safe place to hide. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Raccoon+02.tif.html Oly E-510 with ZD 14-54 lens at 54mm, ISO 800, RAW, cropped severely, processed in Elements 6.0 Comments and critiques welcomed. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 02:40:32 2009 Received: (qmail 30974 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 00:40:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:40:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682C8E182FB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA09E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B210234AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C0E34AC054 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 00:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 00:40:23 -0000 Message-ID: <49D94F77.9020603@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:40:23 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904052249.n35Mnphc000424@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200904052249.n35Mnphc000424@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-1, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 02:40:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d94f80319742070262475 Statistically, not very good. The murder rate (and the overall violent crime rate in the US} has actually been on the decline for a long time. In 1991 the murder rate was 9.8 per 100,000 population. In 2005 it was 5.6 which is not much different from the 5.1 of 1960. But there are very significant regional differences in crime rates. You're much more likely to be shot in the US than elsewhere. But if you're a Canadian or a Brit you're much more likely to be mugged, burglarized or have your car stolen than in the US. Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Jan Steinman wrote: >> >> I just read that, since the Friday shootings of the citizenship >> students, the US has had more people die so far this year in such >> events than happened in all of last year. >> > > I wonder if that's statistically significant ? > > I guess it is if you're a victim. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 02:43:42 2009 Received: (qmail 20756 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 00:43:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:43:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73DBE1830E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A9AE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4496119F127 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9069719F10E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:43:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27854 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 00:43:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 00:43:35 -0000 Message-ID: <49D95037.1040200@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:43:35 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <606506.20333.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com><9EDE365E38774F2A8F44F0E2F12343D0@SueHome> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-1, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 02:43:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9503e37502070262475 Bingo!!! That's what my dad plays in the casino. But I doubt William wants to go to the Fiesta casino in Henderson to play Bingo. But if he does the buffet is cheap and really good! :-) Chuck Norcutt Sue Pearce wrote: > Bingo!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Fildes" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> Don't take the bait, whatever you do. He's planning to clout you with >> it. It's MUCH heavier! >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> >> >> On 06/04/2009, at 2:23 AM, Sue Pearce wrote: >> >>> I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 > 10:54:00 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 02:45:46 2009 Received: (qmail 15055 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 00:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:45:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3ECE18300 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE77CE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975A734AC045 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FD634AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:45:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28739 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 00:45:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 00:45:38 -0000 Message-ID: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:45:37 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-1, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 02:45:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d950ba268862070262475 Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: >> From time to time we get some creatures from the wild that visit >> our neighborhood. I had noticed that the signs of digging in the >> sunflower hulls beneath our feeders seemed to be beyond a >> squirrel's capabilities. My wife noticed this fellow venturing out >> in the late afternoon and digging away until I disturbed it by >> trying to get a photo. It left the open area and headed for the >> safety of our barn, knowing I could not harm it before it could >> reach a safe place to hide. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Raccoon+02.tif.html > > Oly E-510 with ZD 14-54 lens at 54mm, ISO 800, RAW, cropped severely, > processed in Elements 6.0 > > Comments and critiques welcomed. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 02:56:59 2009 Received: (qmail 30428 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 00:56:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:56:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41C3E182FE for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59040E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3713819F151 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585E619F0F9 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27808 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 00:56:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:56:42 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <77CDEA5E-B6BF-4C59-89ED-36C3B1354DD9@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:56:47 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 02:56:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9535b95021234514069 Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. Especially if the critter is unemployed. Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 10:45 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 02:57:33 2009 Received: (qmail 30451 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 00:57:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:57:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED55E182FE for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1D0E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFD334AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:57:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92A334AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27891 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 00:57:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 00:57:21 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:57:26 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 02:57:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9537d113443675314703 Hang on - do they steal cats? To what purpose? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 10:45 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 03:16:53 2009 Received: (qmail 25658 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 01:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 01:16:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F14AE182E8 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DAEE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B50534AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A2E34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp4.localnet.com (extsmtp4.localnet.com [207.251.201.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31540 invoked by uid 1011); 6 Apr 2009 01:14:57 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by bombastic (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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Processed in 0.230695 secs); 06 Apr 2009 01:14:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp4.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp4.localnet.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 01:14:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 14910 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 01:16:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-12-96.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.12.96]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp4.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Apr 2009 01:16:46 -0000 From: Doug To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:21:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <200904050943.15058.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8E05E.6040004@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <49D8E05E.6040004@adinet.com.uy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904052121.07687.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 03:16:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d95805214291023412894 On Sunday, April 05, 2009 12:46, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Do you think mine has any chance? > > small: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3414335155/ > > large (1280): > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3605/3414335155_8cddd8ccf5_o.jpg > > :-) > > Fernando. I bet he'll try. When he's sleeping in the car, that is just about what the neighbor's beagle looks like, but watch him wake up as soon as he hears or smells something interesting. My current rodent and want to be bird catcher is this one. I want to try this one again either with a flash or more available light so that I can more Dof. The mouse catcher that we had previously was this cat. He was "helping" me photograph some tulips in the front yard. He was 15 yo when he killed last year by a car. I'd gone away on a job for a couple of months and since, when ever I came home before, he'd come come out from where ever he was camping out to come in with me. I think he was setting at the end of the driveway waiting for me to come home when he got hit. When he was younger he was good at catching mice, but as he got older he wasn't as fast and while he wasn't deaf I think he didn't hear as good as he did when he was young. > > Doug wrote: > > nor has the neighbors beagle. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 03:28:58 2009 Received: (qmail 17000 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 01:28:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 01:28:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2619EE182E5 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD37E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264A219F1D2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:28:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2AC19F1CB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:28:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.123]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n361Spgg013308 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:28:51 +1000 Message-Id: <200904060128.n361Spgg013308@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:28:46 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:28:46 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 03:28:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d95ada316471234514069 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. > Especially if the critter is unemployed. > Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. I wonder how many breeding pairs you would need to establish a sustainable population at Belgrave ? The interesting question is whether they would find the indigeous species tastier than the other introduced pests, e.g. rabbits. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 03:39:51 2009 Received: (qmail 401 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 01:39:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 01:39:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDFEE182E6 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E3AE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2C919F20C for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACEE19F1FB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:39:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-m08.mx.aol.com (imr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.210]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d41.3af3593a (37531) for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-mb01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB014-5c5949d95d53157; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:39:36 -0400 Received: from webmail-dh17 (webmail-dh17.sim.aol.com [205.188.92.152]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA037-5c5949d95d53157; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:39:31 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:39:31 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.181 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42169-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com (205.188.92.152) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:39:31 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB846FAA8CF426-508-5656@webmail-dh17.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 03:39:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d95d67220661470116606 Seems reasonable to me that one would assume it is properly erect, not leaning or had Peyronie's disease for that matter. Very little barrel distortion with the 12-60 AFAIK though visible according to DP at 12mm---see: http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/olympus_12-60_2p8-4_o20/page3.asp Your combo is profiled in PTLens if desired: http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/ Mike What made you think that the pole was shown to be leaning other than through barrel distortion. Hopefully my 12-60 is not a barrel distortion lens. The 14-45 kit lens was horrible for barrel distortion. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 03:48:38 2009 Received: (qmail 4459 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 01:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 01:48:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1DBE182F4 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233B5E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BD434AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:48:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF7434AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:48:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 18:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23100 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 01:48:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 01:48:32 -0000 Message-ID: <49D95F70.3070005@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:48:32 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <77CDEA5E-B6BF-4C59-89ED-36C3B1354DD9@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <77CDEA5E-B6BF-4C59-89ED-36C3B1354DD9@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090405-1, 04/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 03:48:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d95f76181502070262475 Be careful what you with for. :-) Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. > Especially if the critter is unemployed. > Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/04/2009, at 10:45 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 04:05:51 2009 Received: (qmail 3822 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 02:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 02:05:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87599E18314 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6C7E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F5234AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:05:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4F34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:05:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21774 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 02:05:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 02:05:34 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200904060128.n361Spgg013308@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200904060128.n361Spgg013308@mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:05:38 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 04:05:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9637f263789117217770 As I understand, their main diet is an common but unusual food known as 'anything in a trash can' - they'd do very well. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 11:28 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > >> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: >> >> Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. >> Especially if the critter is unemployed. >> Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. > > I wonder how many breeding pairs you would need to establish a > sustainable population at Belgrave ? > > The interesting question is whether they would find the indigeous > species tastier than the other introduced pests, e.g. rabbits. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 04:07:42 2009 Received: (qmail 10471 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 02:07:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 02:07:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3571E182E8 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1C9E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BB034AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:07:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6DC34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:07:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23680 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 02:07:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 02:07:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D95F70.3070005@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <77CDEA5E-B6BF-4C59-89ED-36C3B1354DD9@people.net.au> <49D95F70.3070005@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <76F16F30-5689-4CA9-AA4C-4EBC347286C8@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:07:32 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 04:07:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d963ee219511234514069 Can't be worse than possums in the roof - big, fat, smelly ones. And Black rats under the house in the crawl space. Oh, and small children of course. Nasty critters. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 11:48 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Be careful what you with for. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. >> Especially if the critter is unemployed. >> Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. >> Andrew Fildes >> afildes@people.net.au >> >> >> >> On 06/04/2009, at 10:45 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 04:09:41 2009 Received: (qmail 8314 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 02:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 02:09:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76D7E182F3 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59721E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3FA34AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:09:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC50E34AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:09:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:09:22 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n3629Hf1018984 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:09:19 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:09:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 04:09:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d96465100071946193717 Chuck, Andrew, Wayne: Thanks for looking. We have surprised them with the auto headlights at night, but this is the first one bold enough to stare me down in daylight. My wife wants me to call our Animal Control man tomorrow and get a live trap so they can remove it to a more proper environment. Despite the distance, and with only 54mm (effectively a 108mm lens), the markings came out pretty well in this frame. I got two usable frames out of three exposures. Couldn't have done it with a manual lens. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Jim Nichols wrote: >>> From time to time we get some creatures from the wild that visit >>> our neighborhood. I had noticed that the signs of digging in the >>> sunflower hulls beneath our feeders seemed to be beyond a >>> squirrel's capabilities. My wife noticed this fellow venturing out >>> in the late afternoon and digging away until I disturbed it by >>> trying to get a photo. It left the open area and headed for the >>> safety of our barn, knowing I could not harm it before it could >>> reach a safe place to hide. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Raccoon+02.tif.html >> >> Oly E-510 with ZD 14-54 lens at 54mm, ISO 800, RAW, cropped severely, >> processed in Elements 6.0 >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 04:40:51 2009 Received: (qmail 7551 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 02:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 02:40:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24D8E18310 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF39E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A5419F2E6 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6540C19F2DE for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl34.gs02.gridserver.com (cl34.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.43]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50273 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl34.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LqelQ-0002X1-U6 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:40:45 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:40:43 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor Thread-Index: Acm2YRSSUtys+iJUEd6FQAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 04:40:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d96bb3148371023412894 Yeah they like trash cans. Several years ago my father had a war with the 5 raccoons who live in the trees in his yard. They consistently outsmarted him! They kept tearing apart the trash and spreading it across the yard, so he tied the trash can shut. They opened it. So, he put a heavy rock on top of it. No problem, they opened it anyway. Then, he bought special cans with locking lids! They opened that with ease! He finally gave up and had my mother put out peanuts for them every night, which kept them out of the trash...peanuts taste much better than garbage. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/5/09 10:05 PM, "Andrew Fildes" wrote: > As I understand, their main diet is an common but unusual food known > as 'anything in a trash can' - they'd do very well. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/04/2009, at 11:28 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > >> >> >> >> >>> Andrew Fildes <> wrote: >>> >>> Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. >>> Especially if the critter is unemployed. >>> Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. >> >> I wonder how many breeding pairs you would need to establish a >> sustainable population at Belgrave ? >> >> The interesting question is whether they would find the indigeous >> species tastier than the other introduced pests, e.g. rabbits. >> >> ...Wayne >> >> Wayne Harridge >> >> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 05:25:17 2009 Received: (qmail 27217 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 03:25:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 03:25:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86244E18316 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAADE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C724234AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:25:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA7134AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:25:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26528 invoked by uid 502); 6 Apr 2009 03:25:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.202.8) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 03:25:06 -0000 Message-ID: <49D97602.4060802@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:24:50 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D823D0.1070400@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 05:25:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9761d118861702588592 John Hudson wrote: > Hi Moose ........ I was thinking. What made you think that the pole was shown to be leaning other than through barrel distortion. Simple enough. It appeared to be leaning toward the center - to roughly the extent I might expect in a relatively wide angle shot looking up slightly from the horizontal. I seem to have a fairly acute sense of level. I used to drive a tech photographer who worked for me crazy. I'd walk into the camera room and remark that the subject was mounted not quite level. He's grab his leveling device, find I was right, often by 1/2 deg. or less, and shake his head. I wasn't sure, as the curve looked as though it might be an actual bend where the two parts meet, but it also looked like there might be barrel distortion. To satisfy my curiousity, I looked at it with a grid and found it was both leaning and bowed/bent. I didn't know if one or both were a result of photographic aberrations, or actual qualities of the subject. Hence my question. > Hopefully my 12-60 is not a barrel distortion lens. The 14-45 kit lens was horrible for barrel distortion. > It does have noticeable barrel distortion, worst at 12 mm and almost gone by 18 mm. As Mike says, PTLens will quickly and easily correct it. What he didn't mention is how useful PTLens is as a way of seeing the distortion in lenses on doesn't have at hand. Simply load an undistorted image with some horizontal and vertical lines, turn off auto EXIF recognition, manually select the lens in question and observe the effect of clicking Preview on and off at various focal lengths. Now that I know what lens was used, I checked the image and found that the bowing in the pole is slightly greater than that caused by the 12-60 at its worst, 12 mm. So it appears the pole may actually be bent. > Would you have come to the same conclusion had the shot been, say, of the Leaning Tower of Pisa. > Probably not, even if I didn't know about it. For one, it isn't noticeably bowed. Second, there are other nearby structures that would provide a reference. Even relative to the level ground around it, the angle is obvious. (No, I haven't been there, but I did watch a special on PBS about efforts to stabilize it. :-) )In more natural surroundings, on un-level ground and with no points of reference (even the horizon is hills that clearly aren't level), the Stanage Pole is trickier to be sure about. > Now there is a challenge. > > How about finding a shot of the leaning tower and making it stand up straight and thus gain fame beyond that of Leonardo of Pisa :-) > Relatively easy to do, but I doubt that PS manipulation of such things is a way to fame and fortune. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 05:41:51 2009 Received: (qmail 23056 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 03:41:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 03:41:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8FBE182E7 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBFAE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1786E34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:41:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A57134AC025 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:41:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32707 invoked by uid 502); 6 Apr 2009 03:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.164.141) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 03:41:46 -0000 Message-ID: <49D979F5.2030605@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:41:41 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <77CDEA5E-B6BF-4C59-89ED-36C3B1354DD9@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <77CDEA5E-B6BF-4C59-89ED-36C3B1354DD9@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 05:41:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d979ff252174673671140 Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yes - that'll push the crime rates up. > Especially if the critter is unemployed. > Damn, wish we had those around here - neat beast. > You already have wombats, how could you want more? Andrew Fildes wrote: > Hang on - do they steal cats? To what purpose? Dinner. Big, hungry coon, small, incautious cat = dinner. They are omnivorous. When everybody is well fed, you can get scenes like our late cat sitting in the backyard watching a skunk and a momma coon and her three babies all eating from the same source. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 05:52:25 2009 Received: (qmail 21313 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 03:52:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 03:52:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD0DE182FA for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609A9E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0A19F42F for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:52:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A4619F430 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:52:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4592 invoked by uid 502); 6 Apr 2009 03:52:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.141.0.94) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 03:52:19 -0000 Message-ID: <49D97C6E.703@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:52:14 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 05:52:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d97c7914861702588592 Jim Nichols wrote: > Chuck, Andrew, Wayne: > > Thanks for looking. We have surprised them with the auto headlights at night, but this is the first one bold enough to stare me down in daylight. My wife wants me to call our Animal Control man tomorrow and get a live trap so they can remove it to a more proper environment. > Generally, nocturnal animals found foraging in daylight are unable to find/compete for food at night, and so take the risk of coming out in the day. Most commonly due to illness or injury. There are lots of them around here. Some years ago, we has a large raccoon with a limp and partially missing tail foraging around the yard in daylight. My then girlfriend was a wildlife rehabber. But before trying to trap it and take it to the shelter, she tried feeding it dog food. As soon as it got food at night, it stopped showing up in daylight. The limp soon started getting better. Then it showed up with three kids. We continued feeding the family, and the skunk that joined the dinner parties, until the youngsters weren't so little any more and separated from mom and she was getting around very well with no obvious limp. Long term feeding isn't a good idea, as it starts to up the local population beyond what natural forage can support, they become dependent on you and can get more than a little pushy. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 06:52:20 2009 Received: (qmail 31567 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 04:52:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 04:52:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B1CE182FB for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F1FE2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003D519F4B0 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BD319F4B2 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id y8so1607486tia.10 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.47.9 with SMTP id u9mr5909250tiu.54.1238993531201; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-171-244.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.171.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm201686tia.23.2009.04.05.21.52.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D98A72.6020804@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:52:02 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> <49D823D0.1070400@gmail.com> <49D97602.4060802@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49D97602.4060802@gmail.com> Subject: [OM] Misc. links (was: Confession) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 06:52:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d98a8457709117217770 Moose wrote: > ... Probably not, even if I didn't know about it. For one, [The > Leaning Tower of Pisa] isn't noticeably bowed. Second, there are > other nearby structures that would provide a reference. Speaking of the Tower, a recent photo of it, found on ffffound.com, that I love: http://ffffound.com/image/d96df4d3570ca636050ae11f9cab83cf7a928462 While I'm here, a tshirt I think some here (AG?) might particular like: http://ffffound.com/image/983932207571790305c132cfbbbe5fea025d374c As a bonus (off-topic) for Moose, since I think he'd find it amusing: http://failblog.org/2009/02/13/explaining-diarrhea-fail/ (I was waiting for Moose to report on an "upset stomach" at some time before posting it, but it's not good karma to effectively be wishing such things on people for the sake of a giggle) Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 06:57:56 2009 Received: (qmail 30110 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 04:57:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 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Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n364vnVR022311 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:57:49 +1000 Message-Id: <200904060457.n364vnVR022311@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:57:48 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:57:49 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 06:57:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d98bd4238651342116753 > Andrew Fildes <> wrote: > > As I understand, their main diet is an common but unusual food known > as 'anything in a trash can' - they'd do very well. > Then they'd have to compete with the brushtailed possums. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 07:23:00 2009 Received: (qmail 9385 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 05:22:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 05:22:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27645E182E1 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DF8E2412E for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123CF34AC027 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7929734AC041 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:22:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n365Mqfk010804 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:22:52 +1000 Message-Id: <200904060522.n365Mqfk010804@mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:22:52 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:22:52 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 07:23:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d991b440109117217770 > Moose <> wrote: > > > > > How about finding a shot of the leaning tower and making it stand up > straight and thus gain fame beyond that of Leonardo of Pisa :-) > > > > Relatively easy to do, but I doubt that PS manipulation of such things > is a way to fame and fortune. :-) > It might look interesting with the tower straightened and the "reference" building leaning. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 07:40:11 2009 Received: (qmail 24539 invoked by uid 0); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 07:40:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d995bb246131035110158 That's an excellent site, Marc (ffffound.com), thanks. But failblog is odd, to say the least ... Chris On 6 Apr 2009, at 05:52, Marc Lawrence wrote: > > Speaking of the Tower, a recent photo of it, found on ffffound.com, > that > I love: > > http://ffffound.com/image/d96df4d3570ca636050ae11f9cab83cf7a928462 > > While I'm here, a tshirt I think some here (AG?) might particular > like: > > http://ffffound.com/image/983932207571790305c132cfbbbe5fea025d374c > > As a bonus (off-topic) for Moose, since I think he'd find it amusing: > > http://failblog.org/2009/02/13/explaining-diarrhea-fail/ > (I was waiting for Moose to report on an "upset stomach" at some time > before posting it, but it's not good karma to effectively be wishing > such things on people for the sake of a giggle) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 09:36:19 2009 Received: (qmail 1249 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 07:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 07:36:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7858E18314 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBE3E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E61F34AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:36:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C121C34AC041 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.13] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHO00IQ1548FF00@asmtp024.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:36:08 +0200 References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 09:36:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9b0f373069117217770 I need a cat burglar! At least two of the neighbourhood cats thinks my bird feedings is cat feedings. I'm running out of snowballs and really need another approach to keep those sponger off. / Johan 6 apr 2009 kl. 02.57 skrev Andrew Fildes: > Hang on - do they steal cats? To what purpose? > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 06/04/2009, at 10:45 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Raccoon?! Looks to me like a cat burglar. :-) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 09:46:39 2009 Received: (qmail 13095 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 07:46:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 07:46:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ADAE182EF for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC0EE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A7519F629 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:46:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A319419F622 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:46:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout028.mac.com (asmtpout028.mac.com [17.148.16.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 00:46:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.13] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp028.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHO008MU5LHPU90@asmtp028.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <089B2E20-1B32-4239-877D-0C49F298004F@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:46:29 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: A walk in Zurich X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 09:46:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9b35e51871869477228 Very nice walk through of Zurich, which I have never been to. Thanks you. Photographically I specially enjoyed the three photos of the chess game. Thanks for sharing. / Johan 3 apr 2009 kl. 12.46 skrev Nathan Wajsman: > I lived in Zurich from 2000 to 2003, but had not been back there for a > couple of years--until earlier this week, when a business trip to > Geneva coupled with a free half-day allowed me the opportunity to hop > on the train and spend a nice afternoon in Zurich: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/7792628_XxKMo#504391899_x6e4B > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 10:16:25 2009 Received: (qmail 19912 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 08:16:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 08:16:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDF4E182FD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DDDE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0CC19DC74 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:16:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4237119DC6D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:16:15 +0200 Message-ID: <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:16:15 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2009 08:16:15.0483 (UTC) FILETIME=[F477A4B0:01C9B68F] Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 10:16:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9ba5949721499373980 Me Too! as we are the only house in hwith any decent garden we are visited by = all the neighbourhood cats whse owners just let them out, here is one = opputunist who has not been back since I managed to sneak up and = thoroughly soak him/her with a full syringe of water. http://www.thattimeoflife.smugmug.com/gallery/6716762_L89RL#506494266_De2mK Whats worst at the moment is that by our new front door we have pea = gravel waiting to be topped with stones and the cats see this as one bit = cat litter and its too close to the house to use my major weapon http://www.deteracat.co.uk/scarecrow_water_jet_pack.htm Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > I need a cat burglar! > > At least two of the neighbourhood cats thinks my bird feedings is cat = > feedings. I'm running out of snowballs and really need another = > approach to keep those sponger off. > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 10:35:58 2009 Received: (qmail 11533 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 08:35:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 08:35:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A46FE18303 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F457E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E0534AC041 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:35:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D6134AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:35:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 01:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:35:51 +0200 Message-ID: <49D9BEE7.8000406@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:35:51 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2009 08:35:51.0766 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1962F60:01C9B692] Subject: [OM] From 7mm to 300mm in less than a minute X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 10:35:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9beed286491529615919 On Sunday we had a day trip to wengen to meet up with my brother who has come for a weeks skiing holiday, the weather was lovely and someone was clearly making the most of it! 7mm 70mm 300mm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 10:42:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25363 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 08:42:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 08:42:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E606E18312 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 10:42:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9c05d304671869477228 Having self imposed a ban on buying camera and computer equipment, idle internet hands have found a new purchase, mine is hopefully arriving at Easter (a pal is bringing it over) knowing that food is the lists second most popular topic I wonder if anyone on the list has one and got any useful tips. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 12:01:40 2009 Received: (qmail 25510 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 10:01:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 12:01:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9d304182142070262475 Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > I need a cat burglar! > = > At least two of the neighbourhood cats thinks my bird feedings is cat = > feedings. I'm running out of snowballs and really need another = > approach to keep those sponger off. > = > / Johan Pepper. Birds can't taste it but it drives squirrels and cats (and dogs) = crazy. We have the last garden here with grass, so we get dogshit all = the time. Pepper dust keeps them off, but it washes off in light rain, = so wasn't an effective remedy over the last year or so... D. P.S. - I sneeze like hell putting it down, but recover fast. -- = I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 12:16:56 2009 Received: (qmail 2972 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 10:16:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 10:16:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E03DE1835E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC13E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BAB19DCC0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:16:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6715819DEE9 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:16:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5661 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 10:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 10:16:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> Message-Id: <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:16:40 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 12:16:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9d698119451529615919 How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? Neat trick tho' - but would probably offend water use restrictions around here. Now I had a friend who hated cats and used a sporting slingshot (catapult) with 12mm steel ball bearings on any who entered his garden - the cats didn't 'not come back' - they never actually left. Like a rifle without the noise - he was deadly accurate. But I suppose that's a bit too extreme for most of you. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 6:16 PM, SwissPace wrote: > Whats worst at the moment is that by our new front door we have pea > gravel waiting to be topped with stones and the cats see this as > one bit > cat litter and its too close to the house to use my major weapon > > http://www.deteracat.co.uk/scarecrow_water_jet_pack.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 12:20:27 2009 Received: (qmail 10785 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 10:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 10:20:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700B6E18308 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8242E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9AF19DF16 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:20:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCC119DD57 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 03:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5992 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 10:20:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 10:20:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49D9C056.2030300@picturepedia.org> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <49D9BEE7.8000406@picturepedia.org> <49D9C056.2030300@picturepedia.org> Message-Id: <3FB96A3B-164E-42B8-9E54-C8F1B3E05AF6@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:20:16 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] -. tandoori oven X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 12:20:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9d76b150231257536491 We use a simple barbecue to incinerate food - that seems like a high tech version. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 06/04/2009, at 6:41 PM, SwissPace wrote: > Having self imposed a ban on buying camera and computer equipment, > idle > internet hands have found a new purchase, mine is hopefully > arriving at > Easter (a pal is bringing it over) knowing that food is the lists > second > most popular topic I wonder if anyone on the list has one and got any > useful tips. > > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 13:44:13 2009 Received: (qmail 2354 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 11:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 11:44:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBC5E18302 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D92E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A82434AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:44:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E2A34AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:44:06 +0200 Message-ID: <49D9EB06.2050506@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:44:06 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <49D9BEE7.8000406@picturepedia.org> <49D9C056.2030300@picturepedia.org> <3FB96A3B-164E-42B8-9E54-C8F1B3E05AF6@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <3FB96A3B-164E-42B8-9E54-C8F1B3E05AF6@people.net.au> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2009 11:44:06.0113 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD8AC510:01C9B6AC] Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] -. tandoori oven X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 13:44:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9eb0d272382070262475 Yep I guess so, I have got to get a gadget purchase in somehow this year ;-) , although I do believe it cooks much hotter than a BBQ Andrew Fildes wrote: > We use a simple barbecue to incinerate food - that seems like a high > tech version. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 13:46:14 2009 Received: (qmail 32067 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 11:46:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 11:46:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C4DE182ED for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF72E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA4B34AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49ECD34AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from mail12.green.ch (mail12.green.ch [81.221.254.111]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ians-mac-pro.local ([81.221.125.14]) by mail12.green.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:46:08 +0200 Message-ID: <49D9EB80.4080503@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:46:08 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2009 11:46:08.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[46490DC0:01C9B6AD] Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 13:46:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9eb86108621702588592 It doesn't so it provides hours of endless fun ;-), when younger I would have no qualms about the catapult but now I am older wiser and don't think I would get away with it! Andrew Fildes wrote: > How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:25:57 2009 Received: (qmail 15440 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:25:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:25:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBCCE182F5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA486E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7B634AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:25:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B11734AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:25:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO00DPLIILBMM4@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:25:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F4A3.3010602@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:25:07 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> In-reply-to: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:25:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f4d528631257536491 Tourists are always welcome. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:26:51 2009 Received: (qmail 26420 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:26:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:26:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492DFE182EB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF110E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C4A34AC02A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C60534AC029 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO00DF6IK747CK@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:26:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F4DD.5070505@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:26:05 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <306F75CC-E506-428A-AEBC-9375FC3A5F6D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:26:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f50b321781470116606 Hey, congratulations are in order. I hope it goes well. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Tom Fenwick wrote: > Since I'm feeling flattered I'm going to 'fess up... I have a > portfolio review session at Impressions Gallery in Bradford on > Wednesday to talk about my Living The Dream project with Margereta > Kern, whose exhibition opens there on Tuesday, and one of the > curators. Bit scary for a self taught thug such as myself, but can't > fail to be interesting! > > Coincidentally the other exhibition opening there on Tuesday, Me, > Myself and MRI was project managed by my friend Kirsty (see below) - > an exciting week for both of us! > > Www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/56756666 > > Tom > > > > Sent from my iPhone -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:29:12 2009 Received: (qmail 15280 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:29:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:29:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1227E182E4 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B4E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3F834AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6102834AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO00H60IO6SO9C@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:28:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F56C.4000005@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:28:28 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:29:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f598297681838542571 with over 500,000 jobs lost every month (closer to 600,000) in the US, there are bound to be tent cities (Hoovervilles). ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chris Crawford wrote: > I'd heard on the news, on NPR, that there was one outside Sacramento, > California. The city was trying to find someplace to house all the homeless > people there, many of whom were middle class people who had lost their jobs, > then their homes and everything else. Remember that in California housing is > so drastically overpriced that people can't keep the house unless they > QUICKLY find a job paying nearly the same as the old job they lost. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:32:07 2009 Received: (qmail 22105 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:32:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:32:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F94BE182F6 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DA9E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE2234AC029 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:31:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AB234AC027 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:31:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO0077IISSX3VI@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:31:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F612.4050900@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:31:14 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <49D68AAE.5050705@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <49D68AAE.5050705@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:32:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f647134161838542571 The unemployment rate does not count people whose compensation has run out and have stopped looking for work. Real rate could be closer to 15%. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > The local unemployment rate is 9.2% which is higher than the national > average which is about 8.5% at the moment. I won't say there are no > tent cities (I know Flagler county, Florida is at 14% unemployment) but > I surely haven't seen any... and I just left Florida 4 weeks ago. > > I think your worries are entirely misplaced. Come and bring plenty of > money. There are plenty of people who will be most happy to help you > spend it and are polite enough not to bite the hand that's helping to > feed them. Seriously, many of the places you are likely to visit are > largely supported by tourist dollars. The problem right now is that > there are not enough of you. Come on over!!! > > So, what do you think you'd like to see? And how do you want to get > there? By air or by car? I wouldn't recommend rail. There is some > rail travel in the US but it's limited and expensive. I consider myself > a modest expert now having just circumnavigated most of the country by > car. 11,508 miles in about 45 days. Cost was approx. $8,000 for all > food, fuel and lodging for two people and my 23.5 miles per gallon > Buick. But gas is cheaper today than it was then and car rental is > probably low cost right now. Lodging wouldn't cost any more to include > a couple young kids. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed >> feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and >> wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how >> welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people >> loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and >> loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that >> staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend >> people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read >> on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. >> That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? >> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I >> do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >> >> Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:36:23 2009 Received: (qmail 27817 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:36:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:36:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E63E182E4 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8CCE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41F019E305 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AB019E34E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO002C1IY0CGYU@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:34:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F6CE.3040401@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:34:22 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> In-reply-to: <8CB82CF464A8B51-105C-1B3D@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:36:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f747154989117217770 Yes, I've seen both 65-200 and 50-250 with frosted elements. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html usher99@aol.com wrote: > Read on FM "anecdotal reports "of similar problems with the 50-250 > like with the Z. 65-200 /4. I'm not sure I believe it as I I've > never read > about it here. Perhaps a few bad apples. > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:36:55 2009 Received: (qmail 26122 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:36:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:36:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D574AE182F6 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A30E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFF434AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857B734AC029 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO00965IZP5JJY@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:35:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F70C.3090304@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:35:24 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB82D071341B5C-105C-1B7C@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> In-reply-to: <8CB82D071341B5C-105C-1B7C@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:36:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f767293317927319144 If you pass through Long Island, give me a call :-) ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html usher99@aol.com wrote: > If you are near Boston, give me a ping. Tourism is down a tad here > but reserved New Englanders aren't any more surly than usual ;-) > I've read the wait staff is even a bit less gruff than usual at > Durgin-Park due to the down-turn. They'll soon ruin their > long-standing reputation. There are plenty other places to eat, many > wonderful---let me know. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:36:57 2009 Received: (qmail 29327 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:36:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ED1E18322 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0D1E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98A219E2E3 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B2119E2F9 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO002EJJ17C3QM@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:36:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F741.5030202@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:36:17 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <1509C0760231470AAB77B5DACE513DA9@hudson> In-reply-to: <1509C0760231470AAB77B5DACE513DA9@hudson> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:36:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f769278701234514069 Shirley you meant to put a smiley face at the end of that. :-) ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html John Hudson wrote: > Suggest that you re-direct your attention to Canada. Definitely a safer > place and with no less attractive scenery. > > Down south you stand a good chance of being shot up on the streets > ............. they have big shoot outs almost daily and today was no > exception; 13 shot and killed in a not so quiet town in upstate New York. > > > > jh > . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> Hi guys, >> >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed >> feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and >> wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how >> welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people >> loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and >> loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that >> staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend >> people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read >> on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. >> That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? >> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I >> do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >> >> Wiliam >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:47:14 2009 Received: (qmail 31566 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:47:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6783BE182EA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C1AE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCF619E340 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D0919E2F2 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO009JAJI9GD6Q@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:46:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F9A7.6070306@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:46:31 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <660B4CC5DDB848F8B744F87242189330@wiliam> <49D780A6.6000501@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <49D780A6.6000501@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:47:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9f9d262961744846740 Pizza and a movie routine is very popular around here, that's for sure. In Farmingdale, we have 2 multiplexes within a half mile of each other, and there is no duplication of films being shown. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > It was still very busy last night. But the pizza is always good. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> Hi Chuck, >> >> Good to hear people still dine out. Sorry to hear there is a crowd ou >> there though ;-) >> >> Wiliam >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >>> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 0:56 >>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>> >>> >>> Well, the mid-priced furniture stores were rather empty. But >>> I didn't >>> say anything about Nicks, our favorite Friday night pizza place. We >>> usually go a little bit after 7 pm so that we have no wait >>> or, at most, >>> only a very brief wait. Last Friday it was jammed at 7 pm. >>> I've never >>> seen that many people there before. We even had to take an >>> undesirable >>> little table back in a corner. I'd say maybe those folks were moving >>> down from the higher end restaurants around here... but, it >>> can't be... >>> we don't have any. :-) >>> >>> I guess pizza is comfort food. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Moose wrote: >>>> My own experience around my area is that things are pretty >>> normal in a >>>> day to day way. Cars and people are out keeping the streets >>> busy, people >>>> are eating out, buying things, etc. Yes, unemployment is up, from a >>>> normal 5-6% to 10-11%, but most people still have work to >>> do, lives to >>>> live. And indeed, business is slower, more so in some segments than >>>> others. Chuck's report was on furniture stores. That's pretty >>>> discretionary spending. I was in Costco about 10 days ago, >>> mid day, mid >>>> week, the parking lot was normally busy, as was the store, >>> and it seemed >>>> pretty much business as usual. Low priced basics and >>> consumables are >>>> still moving. >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 14:48:09 2009 Received: (qmail 6779 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 12:48:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 12:48:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850F9E18312 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAADE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231534AC027 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C91734AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 05:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO001EMJJU86BH@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:47:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49D9F9E0.50908@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:47:28 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <888CBDE432934547B4F6A2E3ABC1BEA6@wiliam> <49D783E7.8020209@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <49D783E7.8020209@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 14:48:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49d9fa09113982070262475 Exactly, one shooting (as terrible as it is) does not turn the entire area into Psycho Town. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > If it makes you feel any better there was one homicide in Binghamton in > 2008. That's more normal for what really is a quiet college town. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> Hi Chuck, >> >> We have our share of crazy people too. Must be of great impact for all >> people affected at any magnitude, not to spek of the ones that die or >> get physically or psychologically hurt. >> >> Wiliam >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >>> Verzonden: zaterdag 4 april 2009 1:02 >>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>> >>> >>> And that was written as I sit about 6 miles (as the crow >>> flies) from the >>> carnage reported at the American Civic Association in Binghamton, NY >>> today. I'm waiting to hear the details. Stuff like that normally >>> doesn't happen around here or mostly anywhere for that matter. My >>> brother-in-law knows one of the higher level staff there but, >>> from the >>> little bit of detail given out so far it would appear that >>> the students >>> were the targets of perhaps another student. One wonders >>> what can cause >>> such hate and pre-meditation... first block the rear entrance >>> with your >>> car so no one can escape. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> Moose wrote: >>>> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>>> yes! >>>>> >>>> and YES >>>> >>>> Moose >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 16:19:29 2009 Received: (qmail 16006 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 14:19:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 14:19:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25772E18326 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C6BE24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7E034AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0292934AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO00HEUNSAJS0F@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:19:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DA0F50.903@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:18:56 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 16:19:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da0f71149982046811720 Lens frosting (which makes the element appear sandblasted) seems to happen without warning and not necessarily due to how lens is stored or used. It affects 65-200 and 50-250. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html USHER99@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Chuck, Moose, CH, Nathan, > > No news is good news. Perhaps JH will chime in. The price of this lens > really has fluctuated. It was listed at $800 USD at KEH less than 2 years ago, > now I see one > at 300 in EX condition. Jeff grabbed one for cheap on yabe and sold it to > me at cost, though it benefited from a CLA with John and has been fine. Not > sure what these reports on FM are about--rear element issue. I checked mine > last night--seems OK. > > I totally forgot a similar Tokina existed until Moose mentioned it. I think > the Zuiko > goes to 1:5 thereabouts at the 250 mm. I remember CH bokeh tests and the Z. > 50-250 which can be busy, and can't say I've ever tried a macro with it. > Perhaps at that FL the bokeh will be better. I usually have a macro lens with > me, but I have on rare occasion been caught short--errr, should say long. > Dean likes the Tam SP 60-300 on the autotube for a butterfly kit. > > Mike > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 16:30:49 2009 Received: (qmail 22359 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 14:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 14:30:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23091E18303 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A003BE24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D85534AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:30:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4198534AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:30:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.215.199]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHO00L96OALLBO4@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:30:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DA11E4.9040202@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:29:56 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 16:30:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da1219151203675314703 Yes, goose feather is my favorite tool for cleaning focus screens. I bet also safe for mirrors. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Sorry, I can't help you with the sensor alignment. But I wouldn't worry > about cleaning the mirror any more than cleaning a lens. You might try > stroking it lightly with a small piece of Swiffer Duster if you have > some. If you don't have any or that doesn't do it completely then I > would swab it gently with a cotton swab and lens cleaner, alcohol or > what have you. Do it multiple times using a clean swab each time. > > Modern first surface mirrors are tougher than most people realize. They > are aluminized in a vacuum chamber by sputtering aluminum vapor onto the > surface to form a thin coating. As soon as the aluminum is exposed to > air the surface oxidizes to form a microscopically thin coating of > aluminum oxide. You might recognize aluminum oxide as the stuff that > grinding wheels are made of. So, while in an extremely thin layer, it's > also very hard. It should easily stand up to any cleaning solution you > might reasonably use on any other bit of optics. > > I think John Hermanson has spoken here of using bird feathers as a > sweep. But I have none such. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Doug wrote: >> I took my Polaroid sprintscan 4000 partially apart to clean the mirror in it. >> The question I have is how do I clean the mirror. It's dustier than I can >> just blow off and I don't want to blow the dust deeper into the scanner. The >> mirror appears to be a first surface mirror and I don't know what solvents I >> can use without damaging the metal. >> >> I also took what I believe to be the sensor off by mistake. Any opinions on >> realigning it. >> -Doug -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 16:48:35 2009 Received: (qmail 30642 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 14:48:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 14:48:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C8FE1831D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B735E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C7E34AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:48:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F96F34AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:48:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com (mail-qy0-f103.google.com [209.85.221.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so3930734qyk.22 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.212 with SMTP id n20mr3639175qac.94.1239029308826; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 16:48:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da1643237603675314703 Wiliam, If you find yourself in the southeastern US, you have a standing invitation for a guided tour of Charleston, SC by a native guide. Have no fear, you and your dollars will be warmly welcomed. ;^) Charlie On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed > feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and > wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how > welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people > loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and > loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that > staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend > people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read > on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. > That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I > do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > Wiliam > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 17:06:25 2009 Received: (qmail 7534 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 15:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 15:06:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D88E182F6 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CD8E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6156B19E7FB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:06:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A6B19E7F9 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1879910fxm.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.64.130 with SMTP id e2mr1736690bki.64.1239030378280; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:06:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f22fb2c848c23280 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 17:06:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da1a71243377350615338 Obviously, any trip through the mid-section of the USA (fly over country) on Interstate 80 will require a stopover in the Iowa-City to Des Moines area. We fellow Zuikoholics (including the original Zuikoholic) will gladly play host as you travel through. We might not have mountains or oceans, but we do have corn, soybeans and prairies with nice walking trails. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 17:27:51 2009 Received: (qmail 25667 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 15:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 15:27:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698F6E182F2 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE24E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD4D34AC029 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:27:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B387834AC027 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:27:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.241]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so1988401rvf.50 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.29.14 with SMTP id g14mr1471679rvj.150.1239031663461; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <208E9877020A4C3E845E6931D3DB7814@SueHome> References: <60f983080904050108w671c632cib4914cf79e453e58@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080904050740h18ae0a2cqdd56b1957a010db6@mail.gmail.com> <208E9877020A4C3E845E6931D3DB7814@SueHome> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:27:43 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 652b33aa52278b42 Message-ID: <60f983080904060827i66f05e47xeb2b85a9f48b4f8@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 17:27:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da1f77303801499373980 Bill, Thanks. I live in Hong Kong & I'll note. --- Michael 2009/4/5 Sue Pearce > Michael,] > > Here's a tip. I don't know where you live, but are there any prolabs > closing > nearby? That's how I got a 90mm apoRodagon for $35. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Wong" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens > > > > Bill, > > Thanks. It's hard to find a suitable one at eBay. I search B&H & found > > near > > USD400 including shipping for Rodenstock Rodgon or Schnedier componon > > enlarger lens, it's very expensive :-( > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > 2009/4/5 Sue Pearce > > > >> You bet, if it's the six element version. I've no experience with the > >> four > >> element budget nikkors, but I understand them to be soft. > >> > >> Bill Pearce > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Michael Wong" > >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:08 AM > >> Subject: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens > >> > >> > >> > Is it a good choice for 120 film printing except Rodenstock & > >> > Schneider? > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > Michael > >> > -- > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.41/2041 - Release Date: > >> 04/04/09 > >> 16:53:00 > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 > 10:54:00 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 17:59:12 2009 Received: (qmail 22582 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 15:59:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 15:59:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DF6E18301 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F438E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1510519E94C for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC06919E94B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.245]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so2001460rvf.50 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.193.16 with SMTP id q16mr1485373rvf.38.1239033546343; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090329151411.35B73A64@resin11.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090329151411.35B73A64@resin11.mta.everyone.net> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:59:06 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 342e6c12c944ecd8 Message-ID: <60f983080904060859l8929d6djab1c60afe8522bc1@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB]Enlarger lens for 120 printing X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 17:59:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da26d0276222070262475 Mike, I have re-considered your lens of EL-Nikkor 80mm F5.6. Would you please give me more details & send me pictures for the lens? Besides, could you please quote me the shipping charges to Hong Kong by USPS EMS? Thanks. --- Michael 2009/3/30 Mike Stoesz > Michael; > > I have available the following enlarger lenses: > > 50mm f/2.8 EL-Nikkor > 80mm f/5.6 EL-Nikkor > 135mm f/5.6 Schneider Componon-S > > Your choice $75.00 each. > > Thanks, Mike > > --- mialop@yahoo.com.hk wrote: > > From: Michael Wong > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] [WTB]Enlarger lens for 120 printing > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:01:47 +0800 > > Prefer Rodenstock Rodagon-S or Schneider Componon-S, 75 or 80mm, F4 or > F4.5, > M39 mount is must. Anyone who wish to sell his/her love enlarger lens, > please contact me off the list, thanks. > > My dark room is created & process 135 film printing :-) But it's not easy > to print a good picture, still learning :p > > > Thanks for all who gave me advice for 135 enlarger lens before :-) > > > --- > Michael > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 18:05:09 2009 Received: (qmail 23690 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 16:05:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 16:05:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D945DE1831F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF16FE24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EADA19E99A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:05:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57C419E983 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:05:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090406160504.MFRU11273.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:05:04 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id cG521b00d4Z9Gks02G53md; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:05:03 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=VxMW-fCnrgcA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=he5QUmt6AAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=BkQAelu9s0wgDIABLCoA:9 a=W3OebECCFRS1VKbHMSYA:7 a=zmIi7reSNTtwjVuLLWEAbipxY_4A:4 a=pt045V2O6wwA:10 a=R4WQGk8rqDwA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <2247F3ACB6974035B948AE709B408948@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com><49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA11E4.9040202@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:04:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 18:05:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da2835181521838542571 Are geese safe in your neighborhood? I have a vision of a monty Python-like scene where you are stalking the elusive goose. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hermanson" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner > Yes, goose feather is my favorite tool for cleaning focus screens. I bet > also safe for mirrors. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Sorry, I can't help you with the sensor alignment. But I wouldn't worry >> about cleaning the mirror any more than cleaning a lens. You might try >> stroking it lightly with a small piece of Swiffer Duster if you have >> some. If you don't have any or that doesn't do it completely then I >> would swab it gently with a cotton swab and lens cleaner, alcohol or >> what have you. Do it multiple times using a clean swab each time. >> >> Modern first surface mirrors are tougher than most people realize. They >> are aluminized in a vacuum chamber by sputtering aluminum vapor onto the >> surface to form a thin coating. As soon as the aluminum is exposed to >> air the surface oxidizes to form a microscopically thin coating of >> aluminum oxide. You might recognize aluminum oxide as the stuff that >> grinding wheels are made of. So, while in an extremely thin layer, it's >> also very hard. It should easily stand up to any cleaning solution you >> might reasonably use on any other bit of optics. >> >> I think John Hermanson has spoken here of using bird feathers as a >> sweep. But I have none such. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Doug wrote: >>> I took my Polaroid sprintscan 4000 partially apart to clean the mirror >>> in it. >>> The question I have is how do I clean the mirror. It's dustier than I >>> can >>> just blow off and I don't want to blow the dust deeper into the scanner. >>> The >>> mirror appears to be a first surface mirror and I don't know what >>> solvents I >>> can use without damaging the metal. >>> >>> I also took what I believe to be the sensor off by mistake. Any opinions >>> on >>> realigning it. >>> -Doug > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 06:22:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 18:06:38 2009 Received: (qmail 14390 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 16:06:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 16:06:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EEAE182F0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3108E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F85119E8E1 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031DA19DC46 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:06:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from iburst-41-213-54-213.iburst.co.za ([41.213.54.213]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 950 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:17:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:06:21 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 18:06:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da288e185502046811720 I am, of course, a firm believer in using whatever makes you happy, and that each medium has its own unique compromises. However, since my Canon Digital days, my colleague and I have always had these friendly challenges in terms of evaluating the relative performance of our (very different) equipment in the same scenarios, and these have always provided some interesting results, such as: - The Zuiko Digital 50-200/2.8-3.5 is (at 100mm) just as good as Canon's (basically perfect) 200/2.8 L II prime lens. - The Zuiko Digital 7-14/4.0 smokes Canon's 16-35mm/2.8 in all aspects except centre sharpness (and, of course, light-gathering ability). - The E-3 has nowhere near the highlight dynamic range or high-ISO capability of a 4-years-older Canon 1-series DSLR. - ...But it has much nicer colour out-of-camera etc. You get the idea. We don't publish these online, it's just for ourselves. Also, in terms of medium format film, I am a Mamiya RB67 user, he uses a Rollei 600x SLR. I see some serious potential for comparing the two systems... However, last week's test was the following: A mild macro (around 1/6 magnification) of the same subject (a vintage Voigtlander camera), results to be compared only in terms of the final print. In my corner, an Olympus OM-1n and Zuiko 90mm f/2.0 Macro, set at f/ 16. Self-developed and wet-printed in the darkroom. In his corner, Olympus E-3 and Zuiko Digital 50mm f/2.0 Macro, set at f/8 for similar DOF and diffraction blur etc. Processed however he likes, and digitally printed on a fairly high-end Epson printer (don't know the model, sorry). Both carefully focused on the same part of the subject. I used Ilford FP4 (a very traditional/grainy ISO 125 film with great dynamic range), he shot the E-3 at ISO 100. Preliminary conclusions thus far: The good: - The OM 90/2.0 and the ZD 50/2.0 macro lenses both seem to be equally good performers. I don't think either is better than the other. - Both setups comfortably produce stunning 10x16 inch prints. The bad: - The OM/Film combination beats (and I mean, by FAR) the digital setup in terms of resolving power. There is, quite simply no comparison. I suspect I can get at least twice (i.e. four times the area) vs. the E-3 shot. The E-3 shot is pixel-sharp, and great quality, so no focus or noise issues can be blamed. Most online wars around this is for digitally scanned film, but a darkroom wet print (and this though a 50-year old Agfa Varioscop enlarger with fungussed lens) is just leagues ahead in terms of resolution and "graceful degradation" when you enlarge beyond sensible sizes. - The OM/Film combination has much superior dynamic range to the E-3/ ZD50mm combination. There is also, simply, no comparison. Our shot had quite high DR (it's a sunlit chrome and black Voigtlander camera, with lots of dark shadows). The ugly: - It's impossible to get all the information captured by the film, onto the paper. Especially the incredibly weak dynamic range of photo paper! One cannot have good contrast *and* high dynamic range, whereas with digital processing one can have the best of these worlds, and repeatably get them on paper. Ever last digital pixel is printed as a perfect square on the paper. - Digital ISO100 is absolutely grain-free, whereas of course FP4 films has visible grain at these enlargements. The digital print was immediately pleasing, whereas it takes many many tries and adjustments (and wasted paper!) to get a good optical print. Until I get a good enlarging exposure meter, in anyway :-) These are just preliminary findings. I suspect my colleague is not the world's best digital printer, and I know I am still just an amateur optical printer. And it's all in good fun... But those film shooters around, just know that, when it comes to the print, B&W film (even in the hands of an amateur) does much better than digital B&W prints, in terms of resolving power. Or, to state it properly, it does so in our hands. We are both just photography enthusiasts, not full- time professionals. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 19:13:26 2009 Received: (qmail 25005 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 17:13:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 17:13:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F63E182EB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A73E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC0719EB63 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE8B19EB62 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F03B2E5E1D7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pD31vtmPzekw for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B772E5E1C8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3AEC4690-797E-4CCD-9E85-A87FF5EB10EA@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:13:13 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 19:13:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da383652311257536491 > From: Ken Norton >> >> And the following came up totally at random: >> >> :::: The income gap between the rich and the rest of the US >> population >> has been growing so fast, that it might eventually threaten the >> stability of democratic capitalism itself. -- Alan Greenspan :::: > > Ah, but never dismiss nature's way of correcting unbalanced > situations. All > it took was for a Bernard Madoff to equalize things for a number of > those > rich. Yes, I understand some of them had to sell their summer homes in a declining market, or lay off a maid or two. That will surely equalize things... NOT! I do agree that the middle class is going away, eventually. Most of them will slide into poverty; a few lucky and clever ones will ascend into the ruling class. We've been working on a "third path" that has features of both. Don't know if it will work yet, but it feels better than just having stuff done to you, beyond your control. > The last two mortgages (and refinances) that I've gotten... What is this "mortgage" of which you speak? :-) D'ya know the etymology of that word? It's a "death pledge." Live in the cheapest house that serves your purpose. (And maybe, closely examine your purpose to see if you can live with a cheaper house.) Pay it off as rapidly as you can. Then you don't care about the difference between an ARM loan or a LEG loan, because they ALL cost you an "arm and a leg" over the long haul. Note that this is exactly the opposite of the "conventional wisdom" that got us into this mess: "Buy the biggest, most expensive house you can make payments on, because you'll be able to make a bundle off someone else trying to do the same thing." Ponzi schemes and bubbles never last, do they? Any time something requires a "bigger fool" to come along after you, you'd better ask yourself, "What if I'm the last fool?" But on the current cause of economic instability, I'm right with you, Ken. And that was simply the first of a long series of energy spikes that are coming down the road at us... Requisite on-topic info: I'm going on a trip to the US in a couple weeks. I understand they have roads with more that two lanes there, and funny lights at intersections that tell you to stop or go. I might take a picture of one of those things with an Olympus camera. :::: Nature must, in the not too distant future, institute bankruptcy proceedings against industrial civilization. -- William Catton :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 19:59:58 2009 Received: (qmail 19517 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 17:59:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 17:59:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FAEE1830E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54D0E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC2E19EC89 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:59:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ADE19EC79 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (smtp05.online.nl [194.134.41.35]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A877523F2 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:59:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:59:49 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:59:48 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <765EBC9902FA44A69B7BB206B0A8702D@SueHome> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 19:59:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da431e84871993019900 Hi Bill, Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, what's a Denny's? Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the > Peppermill. It is > something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected > to a Denny's. > Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. > > For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to > > LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the > > first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of > > wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic > > photo opportinities to be found also. > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > >> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to > >> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our > >> existence. > >> > >> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: > >> > >> >> I > >> >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place > else in the US > >> >> (or > >> >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > >> > > >> > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If > >> "water is the > >> > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release > Date: 04/05/09 > 10:54:00 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:01:45 2009 Received: (qmail 4192 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:01:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:01:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60D4E1831E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1637E24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9483634AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044FE34AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (smtp04.online.nl [194.134.41.34]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7C8E435 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:01:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:01:39 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:01:38 +0200 Message-ID: <43F90D85D62F458892AA6A867E80D8A9@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49D9F70C.3090304@verizon.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:01:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da4389128591073733319 Hi John, Sorry Long Island is not included in the trip. As said before there is so much to see and only so little time :-( Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: John Hermanson [mailto:omtech1@verizon.net] > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 14:35 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?, > > > If you pass through Long Island, give me a call :-) > > > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > usher99@aol.com wrote: > > If you are near Boston, give me a ping. Tourism is down a tad here > > but reserved New Englanders aren't any more surly than usual ;-) > > I've read the wait staff is even a bit less gruff than usual at > > Durgin-Park due to the down-turn. They'll soon ruin their > > long-standing reputation. There are plenty other places to > eat, many > > wonderful---let me know. > > > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:05:21 2009 Received: (qmail 2629 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:05:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDB7E182FC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B110E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9E019D939 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F3E19E8E4 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cBuX1b0090vp7WLA6J5Ghk; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:05:16 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cJ5F1b00T2Axmu48RJ5GAH; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:05:16 +0000 Message-ID: <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:05:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da446161171035110158 A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The first night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog "using" the yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the dog, which immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had possibly killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up and ran off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? > Neat trick tho' - but would probably offend water use restrictions > around here. > Now I had a friend who hated cats and used a sporting slingshot > (catapult) with 12mm steel ball bearings on any who entered his > garden - the cats didn't 'not come back' - they never actually left. > Like a rifle without the noise - he was deadly accurate. > But I suppose that's a bit too extreme for most of you. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:05:51 2009 Received: (qmail 7290 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB68CE182FB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2819E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EC434AC02A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164B934AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp10.online.nl (smtp10.online.nl [194.134.42.55]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp10.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56FF402BD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:05:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:05:33 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:05:33 +0200 Message-ID: <2C7B48F2E01E4ADFB0642FA24C9BA43B@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp10.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:05:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da447f37811035110158 Hi Charles, Thanks for the invite. Probably out of the route this time, been there before in '82-'83 when I was an aprentice engineer on a merchant naval vessel. I liked the kind of city it was. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Charles Geilfuss [mailto:charles.geilfuss@gmail.com] > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 16:48 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Wiliam, > If you find yourself in the southeastern US, you have a > standing invitation for a guided tour of Charleston, SC by a > native guide. Have no fear, you and your dollars will be > warmly welcomed. ;^) > > Charlie > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar > wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming > > summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having > > mixed feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the > > trip and wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am > > wondering how welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing > > stories about people loosing their jobs and no longer being able to > > pay their mortgage and loosing everyhthing. Some have to > live in tent > > cities. I know that staying at home will not help anybody, > but I feel > > like we might offend people because we are able to have a > holiday in > > the US. Last week I read on this list that in some stores > more staff > > was present than customers. That cannot be good. What are > the thoughts > > about this on the list? > > > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please > believe me > > I do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. > > > > Wiliam > > -- _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:11:19 2009 Received: (qmail 28574 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:11:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:11:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378A5E182FD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B891EE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4DE34AC029 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:11:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F40334AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:11:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 196.red-83-52-20.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.20.196]:50449 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LqtHp-0004v5-DI (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:11:09 +0000 Message-Id: <1060DE7E-11BC-480A-A475-682AA3492335@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:11:08 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:11:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da45c7307961499373980 Hi Wiliam, Denny's is a chain of low-cost restaurants. You do not go there for a healthy meal, but it will be tasty and you will not have an instant heart attack, unless you make it part of your daily diet. In general, I do not think that you will have any problems. As someone who has lived about half of my adult life in the US and half in Europe, I can tell you that for a visitor, few places are more welcoming. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, > what's a Denny's? > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >> Peppermill. It is >> something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >> to a Denny's. >> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >> >> Bill Pearce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >>> For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >>> LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >>> first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >>> wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >>> photo opportinities to be found also. >>> >>> Wiliam >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] >>>> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>> >>>> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to >>>> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our >>>> existence. >>>> >>>> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I >>>>>> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place >> else in the US >>>>>> (or >>>>>> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. >>>>> >>>>> Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If >>>> "water is the >>>>> next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------------ >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release >> Date: 04/05/09 >> 10:54:00 >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:13:55 2009 Received: (qmail 9857 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:13:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:13:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068DCE18309 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB227E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB91C19ECDD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8F619E8E4 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp10.online.nl (smtp10.online.nl [194.134.42.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp10.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B9340159 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:13:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp10.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:13:44 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:13:44 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1060DE7E-11BC-480A-A475-682AA3492335@frozenlight.eu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp10.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:13:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da4663252814673671140 Thanks Nathan, All the mails so far have taken my doubts away. We will come and visit and be happy about it. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Nathan Wajsman [mailto:photo@frozenlight.eu] > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 20:11 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Hi Wiliam, > > Denny's is a chain of low-cost restaurants. You do not go > there for a > healthy meal, but it will be tasty and you will not have an instant > heart attack, unless you make it part of your daily diet. > > In general, I do not think that you will have any problems. > As someone > who has lived about half of my adult life in the US and half in > Europe, I can tell you that for a visitor, few places are more > welcoming. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > > Hi Bill, > > > > Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the > way though, > > what's a Denny's? > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] > >> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the > Peppermill. > >> It is something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected > >> to a Denny's. > >> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. > >> > >> Bill Pearce > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > >> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM > >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >> > >> > >>> Hi Chris, > >>> > >>> At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip > we planned. > >>> For the standard trip we would fly directly from the > Netherlands to > >>> LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent > a RV the > >>> first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of > >>> wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic > >>> photo opportinities to be found also. > >>> > >>> Wiliam > >>> > >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >>>> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > >>>> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 > >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a > monument to > >>>> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our > >>>> existence. > >>>> > >>>> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. > >>>> > >>>> Chris > >>>> > >>>> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> I > >>>>>> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place > >> else in the US > >>>>>> (or > >>>>>> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > >>>>> > >>>>> Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If > >>>> "water is the > >>>>> next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >>> > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release > >> Date: 04/05/09 > >> 10:54:00 > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:15:35 2009 Received: (qmail 29807 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:15:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:15:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CE5E182F4 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C520E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B4B19ECF2 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:15:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F9019ECC0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (smtp07.online.nl [194.134.42.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA6B9816B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:15:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:15:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:15:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4C0BF5C72F644351A61453801ADC922E@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49D95037.1040200@chucknorcutt.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:15:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da46c768601499373980 Chuck, When we visited Canada 19 years ago, we also had diner at some Royal Fork Resaurants. Very cheap and not too bad. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 2:44 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > Bingo!!! That's what my dad plays in the casino. But I > doubt William > wants to go to the Fiesta casino in Henderson to play Bingo. > But if he > does the buffet is cheap and really good! :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Sue Pearce wrote: > > Bingo!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andrew Fildes" > > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > >> Don't take the bait, whatever you do. He's planning to > clout you with > >> it. It's MUCH heavier! Andrew Fildes > >> afildes@people.net.au > >> > >> > >> > >> On 06/04/2009, at 2:23 AM, Sue Pearce wrote: > >> > >>> I challenge youto a duel, sit. Your E3 and my D3 at forty paces. > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: > > 04/05/09 > > 10:54:00 > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:22:00 2009 Received: (qmail 15233 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:21:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DA8E1830A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10139E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA26119ECFE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A126019ECF8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.76]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id C3574F1CWE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:54 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:21:52 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4C0BF5C72F644351A61453801ADC922E@wiliam> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm247Ev/kIJB0xdQ82+2fsrPH65HAAADO+g From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2009 18:21:54.0130 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FFD2320:01C9B6E4] Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:22:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da4848239751993019900 >When we visited Canada 19 years ago, we also had diner at some Royal Fork Resaurants. Very cheap and not too bad. >Wiliam They've all gone away, at least in my region of the country (Pacific Northwest). There was another chain (Old Country Buffet) that specialized in "soft, comfort" food. The last one I knew of in my region recently boarded up the doors too. My vote would be for mom & pop joints in every location. Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:22:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da4865257738512572685 A fast-food sit-down restaurant that serves mainly breakfast and lunch. You probably should visit one of these places to see how our culture has homogonized cooking to a corporate mess. Please be sympathetic with us. They can be ok for breakfast. Be assured that each one is EXACTLY the same as the other. There is no regional difference from Maine to Texas. Each and every little thing that could possibly offend has been carefully removed, such as recognizable taste, except with bacon. Your food there is far from the source. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Hi Bill, > > Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, > what's a Denny's? > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >> Peppermill. It is >> something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >> to a Denny's. >> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >> >> Bill Pearce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> > Hi Chris, >> > >> > At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >> > For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >> > LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >> > first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >> > wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >> > photo opportinities to be found also. >> > >> > Wiliam >> > >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> >> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] >> >> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 >> >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> >> >> >> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to >> >> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our >> >> existence. >> >> >> >> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place >> else in the US >> >> >> (or >> >> >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. >> >> > >> >> > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If >> >> "water is the >> >> > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------------ >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release >> Date: 04/05/09 >> 10:54:00 >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 06:22:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:24:24 2009 Received: (qmail 1555 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:24:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:24:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DBBE182E8 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59D6E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830A34AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371E334AC02B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao105.cox.net (eastrmmtao105.cox.net [68.230.240.47]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090406182419.GHW17104.eastrmmtao105.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:24:19 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id cJQK1b00C4Z9Gks02JQKqn; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:24:19 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=muq_2O7Ciw3Fp1C6hRQA:9 a=j1ri_9Zo-R13PKBjJGJPOKIW74UA:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <1FE9FCE9A9BC4D07BB5EB6B3A0576DDF@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:24:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:24:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da48d877091234514069 > > My vote would be for mom & pop joints in every location. > > Jim > -- Jim, A wise man! Billl Pearce -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 20:58:05 2009 Received: (qmail 26129 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 18:58:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 18:58:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C13E18314 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E560EE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FBB19EDCF for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:57:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D821C19EDDC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:57:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp3.localnet.com (extsmtp3.localnet.com [207.251.201.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17952 invoked by uid 1011); 6 Apr 2009 18:57:57 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by bolster (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 20:58:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da50bd132997927319144 On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, > what's a Denny's? Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd say average food at average price. -Doug > > Wiliam > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] > > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 > > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > > If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the > > Peppermill. It is > > something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected > > to a Denny's. > > Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. > > > > Bill Pearce > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. > > > For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to > > > LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the > > > first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of > > > wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic > > > photo opportinities to be found also. > > > > > > Wiliam > > > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > >> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > > >> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 > > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> > > >> > > >> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to > > >> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our > > >> existence. > > >> > > >> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. > > >> > > >> Chris > > >> > > >> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: > > >> >> I > > >> >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place > > > > else in the US > > > > >> >> (or > > >> >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > > >> > > > >> > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If > > >> > > >> "water is the > > >> > > >> > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> _________________________________________________________________ > > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release > > Date: 04/05/09 > > 10:54:00 > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 21:44:38 2009 Received: (qmail 19478 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 19:44:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 19:44:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62023E18301 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2C9E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EE734AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDBA34AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 12:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c37so1405625anc.35 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:44:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.195.11 with SMTP id s11mr6385941anf.69.1239047057464; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:44:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:44:17 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904061244x724bd31cl83751025df3950d8@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 21:44:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da5ba6174371234514069 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dawid Loubser wrote: > I am, of course, a firm believer in using whatever makes you happy, snip Interesting balance of observations, Dawid. Thanks for sharing and for all the detail. >From my own experience, many confirming points. * having the Z 90/2, I haven't felt compelled to get the DZ 50/2 as I don't feel the MF of the 90 is a drawback in the situations in which mainly use it, especially with LV for focus placement * latitude of highlight capture of the E-3 is doubtless worse in comparison to something or other, but not really to previous E-system cameras I have owned, though it is a consideration at times requiring a bit more PP shenanigans than I would like. In short, easy enough to blow out highlights, but I notice people do this with other digital cameras, not to mention film too. * film vs. digital always amounts to something like testing apples against oranges because of the issues of scanning the film. It is one level removed from the reality of the film -- something I feel sort of OK about with print film, but less so with transparency. Not sure of the efficacy of resolution tests betwixt film, with four times the square footage of an E-3 sensor, and digital in this instance. More to the point, so many other factors loom larger for me before absolute resolution affects my decision about what to shoot and why. Virtually everything else, really. I can't easily get to the point where I am disappointed in the resolution even of the E-1, so this is very much an academic point to me. I formerly used to shoot some combination of slide and print films, mostly slide for the serious stuff. Digital has basically replaced slide film for me. I still like print film for its incredible latitude, but digital exceeds my needs for what I had looked for from slide film, at least the needs that end up as digital prints and stock images. Anyway, I enjoyed your post. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 22:16:17 2009 Received: (qmail 6900 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 20:16:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 20:16:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55C9E182FC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD59E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A245D19EFD5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:16:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5C119EFD7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:16:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3895 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 20:16:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 20:16:08 -0000 Message-ID: <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:16:08 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 22:16:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da6311140589117217770 I would suggest that both rigs are suffering from diffraction at the apertures selected and each should open one stop. Chuck Norcutt Dawid Loubser wrote: > I am, of course, a firm believer in using whatever makes you happy, > and that > each medium has its own unique compromises. However, since my Canon > Digital days, > my colleague and I have always had these friendly challenges in terms > of evaluating > the relative performance of our (very different) equipment in the same > scenarios, > and these have always provided some interesting results, such as: > > - The Zuiko Digital 50-200/2.8-3.5 is (at 100mm) just as good as Canon's > (basically perfect) 200/2.8 L II prime lens. > - The Zuiko Digital 7-14/4.0 smokes Canon's 16-35mm/2.8 in all aspects > except centre sharpness (and, of course, light-gathering ability). > - The E-3 has nowhere near the highlight dynamic range or high-ISO > capability of > a 4-years-older Canon 1-series DSLR. > - ...But it has much nicer colour out-of-camera > etc. > > You get the idea. We don't publish these online, it's just for > ourselves. Also, in terms > of medium format film, I am a Mamiya RB67 user, he uses a Rollei 600x > SLR. I see some > serious potential for comparing the two systems... > > However, last week's test was the following: A mild macro (around 1/6 > magnification) of > the same subject (a vintage Voigtlander camera), results to be > compared only in terms of > the final print. > > In my corner, an Olympus OM-1n and Zuiko 90mm f/2.0 Macro, set at f/ > 16. Self-developed and > wet-printed in the darkroom. > > In his corner, Olympus E-3 and Zuiko Digital 50mm f/2.0 Macro, set at > f/8 for similar DOF > and diffraction blur etc. Processed however he likes, and digitally > printed on a fairly > high-end Epson printer (don't know the model, sorry). > > Both carefully focused on the same part of the subject. I used Ilford > FP4 (a very traditional/grainy ISO 125 film with great > dynamic range), he shot the E-3 at ISO 100. Preliminary conclusions > thus far: > > The good: > > - The OM 90/2.0 and the ZD 50/2.0 macro lenses both seem to be equally > good performers. I don't think > either is better than the other. > > - Both setups comfortably produce stunning 10x16 inch prints. > > The bad: > > - The OM/Film combination beats (and I mean, by FAR) the digital setup > in terms of resolving > power. There is, quite simply no comparison. I suspect I can get at > least twice (i.e. four times the area) > vs. the E-3 shot. The E-3 shot is pixel-sharp, and great quality, so > no focus or noise issues can be blamed. > Most online wars around this is for digitally scanned film, but a > darkroom wet print (and this though a 50-year old > Agfa Varioscop enlarger with fungussed lens) is just leagues ahead in > terms of resolution and > "graceful degradation" when you enlarge beyond sensible sizes. > > - The OM/Film combination has much superior dynamic range to the E-3/ > ZD50mm combination. There > is also, simply, no comparison. Our shot had quite high DR (it's a > sunlit chrome and black > Voigtlander camera, with lots of dark shadows). > > The ugly: > > - It's impossible to get all the information captured by the film, > onto the paper. Especially the > incredibly weak dynamic range of photo paper! One cannot have good > contrast *and* high dynamic range, > whereas with digital processing one can have the best of these worlds, > and repeatably get them on paper. > Ever last digital pixel is printed as a perfect square on the paper. > > - Digital ISO100 is absolutely grain-free, whereas of course FP4 films > has visible grain at these > enlargements. > > > The digital print was immediately pleasing, whereas it takes many many > tries and adjustments (and wasted paper!) > to get a good optical print. Until I get a good enlarging exposure > meter, in anyway :-) > > > These are just preliminary findings. I suspect my colleague is not the > world's best digital printer, > and I know I am still just an amateur optical printer. And it's all in > good fun... But those film > shooters around, just know that, when it comes to the print, B&W film > (even in the hands of an amateur) > does much better than digital B&W prints, in terms of resolving power. > Or, to state it properly, it does > so in our hands. We are both just photography enthusiasts, not full- > time professionals. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 22:22:26 2009 Received: (qmail 29395 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 20:22:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 20:22:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24C9E18317 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E54E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D4934AC032 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A392934AC02D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7816 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 20:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 20:22:20 -0000 Message-ID: <49DA647C.4000604@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:22:20 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 22:22:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da6482298191073733319 Charleston, SC should be on everybody's itinerary. It's probably our favorite place to visit. We've been there twice but not for quite some time now. Now that we'll be traveling to Florida for snowbirding every year we'll have to make sure to stop again. There's probably a lot more to see that we don't even know about. Chuck Norcutt Charles Geilfuss wrote: > Wiliam, > If you find yourself in the southeastern US, you have a standing > invitation for a guided tour of Charleston, SC by a native guide. Have no > fear, you and your dollars will be warmly welcomed. ;^) > > Charlie > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I have booked a holiday trip with the family to the US this coming >> summer. Because of the currect economic state however I am having mixed >> feelings. One half of my thoughts are about preparing for the trip and >> wanting to ask you what to visit. On the other hand I am wondering how >> welcome tourists are at the moment. I keep hearing stories about people >> loosing their jobs and no longer being able to pay their mortgage and >> loosing everyhthing. Some have to live in tent cities. I know that >> staying at home will not help anybody, but I feel like we might offend >> people because we are able to have a holiday in the US. Last week I read >> on this list that in some stores more staff was present than customers. >> That cannot be good. What are the thoughts about this on the list? >> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions and please believe me I >> do not want to offend anyone by visiting or even by asking. >> >> Wiliam >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 22:49:31 2009 Received: (qmail 22004 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 20:49:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 20:49:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D64EE1830A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03700E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53BB19F086 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:49:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B03119F098 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:49:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24765 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 20:49:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 22:49:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da6adb251131342116753 But you will be amazed at some of the Las Vegas casino buffets. They are very inexpensive, with very good food and an amazing variety to choose from. The casinos use their buffets to tempt you there and into the gambling hall where they will make their serious money. I hear the Bellagio buffet is superb but I've never been there. Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Chuck, > > When we visited Canada 19 years ago, we also had diner at some Royal > Fork Resaurants. Very cheap and not too bad. > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] >> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 2:44 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> >> >> Bingo!!! That's what my dad plays in the casino. But I >> doubt William >> wants to go to the Fiesta casino in Henderson to play Bingo. >> But if he >> does the buffet is cheap and really good! :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Sue Pearce wrote: >>> Bingo!!! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Fildes" >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>> >>> >>>> Don't take the bait, whatever you do. He's planning to >> clout you with >>>> it. It's MUCH heavier! 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Thread-Index: Acm2+5r72T8SICLuEd6U2AAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <49DA6AD2.7050000@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 23:07:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da6ef4172531035110158 On 4/6/09 4:49 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > But you will be amazed at some of the Las Vegas casino buffets. They > are very inexpensive, with very good food and an amazing variety to > choose from. The casinos use their buffets to tempt you there and into > the gambling hall where they will make their serious money. I hear the > Bellagio buffet is superb but I've never been there. > > Chuck Norcutt And, as a bonus, in Vegas you can visit Canada without risking your life, by attending a Cirque du Soleil performance. Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 23:14:45 2009 Received: (qmail 15514 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 21:14:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 21:14:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8078EE18314 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3006E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D8034AC02D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20B834AC02B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7749 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 21:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 21:14:37 -0000 Message-ID: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:14:36 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 23:14:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da70c5232361591313764 We have an Old Country Buffet here locally. It is part of a chain of other restaurants all having "Buffet" in their name... Home Town Buffet, Old Country Buffet and Country Buffet. You can eat lots for cheap. The food ranges from good to so-so. When we were traveling around the country we avoided chain restaurants whenever possible and searched first for local restaurants. We depended heavily on our AAA state-by-state travel guides for both food and lodging and were never disappointed. In some cases we sought the recommendations of the hotel staff. That usually worked also but we were sorely disappointed by one hotel manager's recommendation for a good Texas barbecue restaurant. I do know good Texas barbecue and that wasn't it. :-) But all in all we had excellent food from the local restaurants and I discovered some foods I'd never had before. Some which I liked and some which I didn't. In the Upper Peninsula of Michigan I discovered that I really like fried Walleye Pike (firm white flesh like cod or haddock) and don't like "pasties" (that's this type, pronounced past-eez, not the type with the long A :-) Chuck Norcutt Timpe, Jim wrote: >> When we visited Canada 19 years ago, we also had diner at some Royal > Fork Resaurants. Very cheap and not too bad. >> Wiliam > > > They've all gone away, at least in my region of the country (Pacific > Northwest). > There was another chain (Old Country Buffet) that specialized in "soft, > comfort" food. The last one I knew of in my region recently boarded up > the doors too. > > My vote would be for mom & pop joints in every location. > > Jim > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Apr 6 23:33:06 2009 Received: (qmail 12107 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 21:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 21:33:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CF0E1830E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC49E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2097134AC02A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:33:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA6034AC031 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout023.mac.com (asmtpout023.mac.com [17.148.16.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.2] (c-83-233-110-14.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.14]) by asmtp023.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KHP00FIO7UW9O30@asmtp023.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:32:59 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: [OM] [Photos] Three of todays back yard guests X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Apr 6 23:33:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da751260981470116606 Three visitors to our back yard. I used my E-1, OM-adapter, and photo-adapter on my spoting scope, an old Kowa TSN-1. With the photo adapter on the spoting scope make a 800mm/10.4 lens. ISO@400 http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/visitors090406.html Enjoy! / Johan -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 00:05:06 2009 Received: (qmail 23884 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 22:05:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 22:05:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE77EE182EA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9AFE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9705734AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB9034AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n36M4dY8021070 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:04:42 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:05:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photos] Three of todays back yard guests X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 00:05:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da7c9222071234514069 Johan, Very impressive, especially the two birds. Thanks for sharing. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- = From: "Johan Malmstr=F6m" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: [OM] [Photos] Three of todays back yard guests > Three visitors to our back yard. > I used my E-1, OM-adapter, and photo-adapter on my spoting scope, an > old Kowa TSN-1. With the photo adapter on the spoting scope make a > 800mm/10.4 lens. > ISO@400 > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/visitors090406.html > > Enjoy! / Johan > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 00:09:22 2009 Received: (qmail 23476 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 22:09:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 22:09:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EB8E182F5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECD2E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BD219F21A for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:09:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B619EFB0 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5724 invoked by uid 504); 6 Apr 2009 22:09:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Apr 2009 22:09:13 -0000 Message-ID: <49DA7D88.6070007@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:09:12 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [Photos] Three of todays back yard guests X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 00:09:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da7d92182189117217770 Very good. That's difficult shooting. Chuck Norcutt Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Three visitors to our back yard. > I used my E-1, OM-adapter, and photo-adapter on my spoting scope, an = > old Kowa TSN-1. With the photo adapter on the spoting scope make a = > 800mm/10.4 lens. > ISO@400 > = > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/visitors090406.html > = > Enjoy! / Johan -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 00:13:45 2009 Received: (qmail 30573 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 22:13:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 22:13:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB087E18181 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8D8E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4A719F249 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:13:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915A819F244 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:13:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.104]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n36MDcun001115 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:13:39 +1000 Message-Id: <200904062213.n36MDcun001115@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail14.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:13:38 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:13:38 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 00:13:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da7e99159131529615919 > John Hermanson wrote: > > Lens frosting (which makes the element appear sandblasted) seems to > happen without warning and not necessarily due to how lens is stored or > used. It affects 65-200 and 50-250. > Is this the same problem as occurs with the 8mm fisheye ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 00:34:25 2009 Received: (qmail 17715 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 22:34:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 22:34:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05149E1830F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4F4E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D7E34AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:34:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA3134AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:34:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2039083bwz.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:34:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.103.203 with SMTP id l11mr2107125bko.71.1239057256403; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:34:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d2226f63069c2e1b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 00:34:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da8371288111823421471 > > In the Upper Peninsula of > Michigan I discovered that I really like fried Walleye Pike (firm white > flesh like cod or haddock) and don't like "pasties" (that's this type, > pronounced past-eez, not the type with the long A :-) > In the Upper Peninsula there is a "chain" of restaurants called "EAT". I don't think you will mistake it for the hardware store even though the food is about the same. Pasties are definitely one of those food items that was created to serve a purpose, but otherwise isn't anything to go out of your way for. Kinda like head cheese. OK, I can't resist the promotion: When in Mackinaw City, you must buy smoked fish at "Bell's Fishery". The smoked salmon and whitefish is to die for. Their recipes and quality control are the best. You will never encounter smoked salmon as good anywhere else. Oh, and pizza at Mama Mia's in Mackinaw City is excellent too. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 00:46:06 2009 Received: (qmail 15630 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 22:46:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 22:46:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B821EE18300 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17822E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB62319ECFC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:46:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7A119F2E5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2039237fxm.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:45:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.69.133 with SMTP id z5mr2108276bki.163.1239057958603; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:45:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:45:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 15d61d7b30105c08 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 00:46:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da862e73545368819438 > > I would suggest that both rigs are suffering from diffraction at the > apertures selected and each should open one stop. At that print size? Probably pretty close to the limit. One stop open for both would definitely get it closer to ideal, but I think that at that print size we're at the point of diminishing returns as compared to the advantages of the increase in DoF. What really becomes evident in a test like this is the inherent advantage to the film configuration due to micro-contrast. And as to the subject of contrast vs dynamic range, you can do a lot of balancing there by using split-grade printing. This gives you the ability to have a ton of contrast while maintaining the gentle tonal gradients. I maintain that a well-processed and printed Ilford PanF negative on a fiber silver-gelatin paper will easily surpass anything remotely possible with digital. Digital is getting much much better, but this final frontier hasn't been crossed yet. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 01:33:22 2009 Received: (qmail 13962 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 23:33:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 23:33:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37EDE182EB for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20363E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C54334AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:33:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6DC34AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:33:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com (mail-qy0-f103.google.com [209.85.221.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so4475438qyk.22 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:33:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.89.82 with SMTP id d18mr4402915qam.134.1239060788765; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:33:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:33:08 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0904061633l4e3e20f1q87c8eee99ccd3f43@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photos] Three of todays back yard guests X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 01:33:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da9142224431823421471 Very good Johan, especially the House sparrows. Charlie 2009/4/6 Johan Malmstr=F6m > Three visitors to our back yard. > I used my E-1, OM-adapter, and photo-adapter on my spoting scope, an > old Kowa TSN-1. With the photo adapter on the spoting scope make a > 800mm/10.4 lens. > ISO@400 > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/visitors090406.html > > Enjoy! / Johan > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 01:38:38 2009 Received: (qmail 11198 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 2009 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8B1E1830D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BA1E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02AA19F610 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBD219F619 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13312 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2009 23:38:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 6 Apr 2009 23:38:21 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:38:25 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 01:38:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da927e151161499373980 I used to go down to Cornwall every year (St Ives) for a week, sleep rough on the beach and live on pasties and rough cider. Those pictured on that site are very different. As he says, they were mine food, designed to be carried down the tin mines as it was too tiresome to come up for lunch. The traditional 'Tiddy Oggy' is crimped along the top and the pastry was the package. The filling was beef or mutton and cheap veggies like potato, turnip and swede. It was also much looser filling than the one pictured which looks solid, like an English Pork Pie. One variation was to put a divider in the middle and put fruit in the other compartment, for desert. The pastry is hard, thick and the heavy crimped edge acted as a handle, which could be discarded if soiled by dirty hands. It was also three times the size of the one in the picture (miners get bloody hungry). Well maybe twice - 9-10" long. As in the UK, there is a nasty little object here sold under the name of Pastie which is small, contains no meat and has to be dowsed in ketchup to conceal the fact that it tastes horrible. Most people here assume that a pastie is a small, vegetarian sort of pie and even if the bakery makes its own and calls it a Cornish Pasty, a question like, "What sort of meat has it got in it," is usually met with the the kind of look reserved for idiots - I mean, it's vegetarian, right?! Here's the source, of course - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornish_pasty It's wrong on the Australian data of course. And the idea of 'steak'? Pasties, like all pies, used offcuts. I do like the look of the Mexican version, Pastes. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/04/2009, at 7:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > and don't like "pasties" (that's this type, > pronounced past-eez, not the type with the long A :-) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:03:03 2009 Received: (qmail 9886 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:03:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:03:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0691E18311 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D7CE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3022219F68B for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2CA19F67F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:02:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip04.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.52]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHP00CYQESXCJ42@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:02:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-222-118-144.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.118.144]) by ip04.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:02:56 -0300 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:02:55 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <57F632B9631C430BB53F7346A94656B3@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMMAIs12kkY3naQ/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmwQ0HhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,333,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="450787521" References: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:03:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da983726951993019900 I've seen Cirque du Soleil on tv several times ................. their performances are beyond stunning. See here http://www.cirquedusoleil.com and watch the brief video presentation. You will be impressed. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Collins" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > On 4/6/09 4:49 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> But you will be amazed at some of the Las Vegas casino buffets. They >> are very inexpensive, with very good food and an amazing variety to >> choose from. The casinos use their buffets to tempt you there and into >> the gambling hall where they will make their serious money. I hear the >> Bellagio buffet is superb but I've never been there. >> >> Chuck Norcutt > > And, as a bonus, in Vegas you can visit Canada without risking your life, > by > attending a Cirque du Soleil performance. > > Michael > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:05:28 2009 Received: (qmail 9487 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:05:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACBBE182FA for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE46EE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FFB19F692 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:05:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F116619F68D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:05:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30987 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 00:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 00:05:20 -0000 Message-ID: <49DA98BF.9080307@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:05:19 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:05:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da98c880197927319144 This is the web site of Pierre Chiha, my photo mentor On the gallery page you'll find a section labeled musicians. Within the musicians section, the last 3 photos (the conductor and violinist) were shot on a 5D (as was nearly everything else) and exhibition quality prints prepared by a guy in New York who specializes in B&W printing from digital. I do not recall his name except that it's spelled "expensive". There are probably some 15-20 prints in the series. IIRC they are about 24x30". The prints are exquisite. I cannot imagine that it would be possible to make them look better. But, although Pierre does most of his own printing on a couple of large Epsons he did not even attempt the B&W with his equipment. I think if you could personally inspect these prints you'd change your mind about what's possible to do with digital B&W. But I certainly don't have the equipment or the skills to do that type of work either digital or in the darkroom. I think his printers have something like 8 shades of gray ink. ps: My good friend Dr. Flash set up the lighting for the lead shot in the musicians group which shows the Boston Classical Orchestra in Faneuil Hall. He also set up the lights for about half of the other shots on that page, mostly students. Dr. Flash also did the lighting on lots of other shots throughout that site but did manage to slip in one actual portrait shot of his own. See the young blond lass in row 5, column 2 on the barmitzvah page The shot above may also be his. He's a shutter dragging kind of guy. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > > I maintain that a well-processed and printed Ilford PanF negative on a fiber > silver-gelatin paper will easily surpass anything remotely possible with > digital. Digital is getting much much better, but this final frontier > hasn't been crossed yet. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:14:59 2009 Received: (qmail 28640 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:14:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:14:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7B0E1830E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B864E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2022834AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:14:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856D434AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:14:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2554 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 00:14:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 00:14:52 -0000 Message-ID: <49DA9AFC.7030505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:14:52 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:14:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da9b03308745368819438 The pastie I had was filled with diced beef and potato with maybe some turnip mixed in. The pie crust on the outside made it look delicious. My taste buds (erroneously) had mental visions of Mexican empanadas which I truly love. I bit in... and stopped. It wasn't that it tasted bad... it just didn't taste at all.. it had no salt, no pepper, no spice no nothing. It was then that I was advised that I needed to douse it in ketchup for flavor. I decided I'd like to eat something else. I guess it must be an acquired taste. :-) Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > I used to go down to Cornwall every year (St Ives) for a week, sleep > rough on the beach and live on pasties and rough cider. Those > pictured on that site are very different. As he says, they were mine > food, designed to be carried down the tin mines as it was too > tiresome to come up for lunch. > The traditional 'Tiddy Oggy' is crimped along the top and the pastry > was the package. The filling was beef or mutton and cheap veggies > like potato, turnip and swede. It was also much looser filling than > the one pictured which looks solid, like an English Pork Pie. One > variation was to put a divider in the middle and put fruit in the > other compartment, for desert. The pastry is hard, thick and the > heavy crimped edge acted as a handle, which could be discarded if > soiled by dirty hands. It was also three times the size of the one in > the picture (miners get bloody hungry). Well maybe twice - 9-10" long. > As in the UK, there is a nasty little object here sold under the name > of Pastie which is small, contains no meat and has to be dowsed in > ketchup to conceal the fact that it tastes horrible. Most people here > assume that a pastie is a small, vegetarian sort of pie and even if > the bakery makes its own and calls it a Cornish Pasty, a question > like, "What sort of meat has it got in it," is usually met with the > the kind of look reserved for idiots - I mean, it's vegetarian, right?! > Here's the source, of course - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornish_pasty > It's wrong on the Australian data of course. And the idea of 'steak'? > Pasties, like all pies, used offcuts. > I do like the look of the Mexican version, Pastes. > > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 07/04/2009, at 7:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> and don't like "pasties" (that's this type, >> pronounced past-eez, not the type with the long A :-) >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:15:37 2009 Received: (qmail 5981 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:15:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5500BE182E5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970A4E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D27234AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:15:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E479834AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:15:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp2.localnet.com (extsmtp2.localnet.com [207.251.194.40]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20594 invoked by uid 1013); 7 Apr 2009 00:15:03 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by holster (envelope-from , uid 1005) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:15:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da9b29237211529615919 On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, > what's a Denny's? Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd say average food at average price. -Doug > > Wiliam > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] > > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 > > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > > If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the > > Peppermill. It is > > something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected > > to a Denny's. > > Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. > > > > Bill Pearce > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" > > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > > > At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. > > > For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to > > > LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the > > > first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of > > > wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic > > > photo opportinities to be found also. > > > > > > Wiliam > > > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > >> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > > >> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 > > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> > > >> > > >> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to > > >> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our > > >> existence. > > >> > > >> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. > > >> > > >> Chris > > >> > > >> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: > > >> >> I > > >> >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place > > > > else in the US > > > > >> >> (or > > >> >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. > > >> > > > >> > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If > > >> > > >> "water is the > > >> > > >> > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> _________________________________________________________________ > > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release > > Date: 04/05/09 > > 10:54:00 > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:22:42 2009 Received: (qmail 17706 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:22:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:22:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B676BE182F7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAD8E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB919F6AD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6F419F6C5 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:22:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2056017fxm.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr3623362fga.30.1239063753570; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-171-244.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.171.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm7756177fga.10.2009.04.06.17.22.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA9CBE.1070501@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:22:22 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:22:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da9cd233502046811720 Andrew Fildes wrote: > ... > As in the UK, there is a nasty little object here sold under the name > of Pastie which is small, contains no meat and has to be dowsed in > ketchup to conceal the fact that it tastes horrible. > ... Yeah, why would you get one of them, when there's a perfectly tasty chiko roll to chew the end off, eat the guts out of, and fill the deep-fried tube with some marty sauce? Pastie...blech! ;-) Cheers, Marc (who still hasn't talked his French chef brother-out-law into a chiko roll) Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:33:06 2009 Received: (qmail 16584 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:33:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2811E18305 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8FCE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0142D34AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:33:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE4A34AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:33:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so908169fga.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.95.8 with SMTP id s8mr3643995fgb.38.1239064379993; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (124-171-171-244.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.171.171.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm45443fgb.1.2009.04.06.17.32.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DA9F30.5060003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:32:48 +1000 From: Marc Lawrence User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <57F632B9631C430BB53F7346A94656B3@hudson> In-Reply-To: <57F632B9631C430BB53F7346A94656B3@hudson> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:33:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49da9f42266101470116606 John Hudson wrote: > I've seen Cirque du Soleil on tv several times ................. > their performances are beyond stunning. I bought tickets for some friends, me and The Loved One for his 50th birthday when Cirque du Soleil (I can't remember which performance) was in Sydney. He was enthralled and absolutely loved it. Me...I just kept waiting for an extraordinarily bad fall to happen, and not in a hilarious Funniest Home Videos "football in the groin" kind of way, but in an anxious "OMG! I can't watch! We're going to be able to hear the bones snap!" kind of way. If he wants to go again, he can go by himself. Which is to say, even if backhandedly, that it is amazing and spectacular and well worth it, at least once. Cheers, Marc (Is there a -phobia for someone scared of juggling acts?) Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:40:17 2009 Received: (qmail 1023 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:40:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:40:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BBDE182EE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9812DE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67E3610001 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:40:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004F234AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.cfc.52b6c4c7 (65100) for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:40:05 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:40:05 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:40:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daa0f1317911257536491 Tom, congratulations. Well done and thanks for confessing! Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:51:54 2009 Received: (qmail 10122 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:51:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2FCE1802F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544A0E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457C234AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731F034AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2060458fxm.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:51:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.51.65 with SMTP id c1mr2199094bkg.59.1239065504037; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:51:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA98BF.9080307@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA98BF.9080307@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:51:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: daec7443db74c597 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:51:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daa3aa7601744846740 Chuck, as we've discussed this exhibition quality B&W printing before, I do not doubt the level of quality in the least. However, several thoughts: 1. Extremely expensive equipment with high-end calibration and RIP. 2. Quality source file 3. Quality photographer. and most importantly: 4. No comparative image using an alternative technology. I have seen some excellent digital B&W prints. However, without a baseline reference (of which Ilford PanF on FB-Glossy is one), everything is relative. I still maintain that the primary difference between digital and film has little to do with the main straight-line section of the response curves, but the shoulder and toe response. I love how the film and paper work together (and hate how certain films and papers don't) in the darkroom to give wonderful tones and transitions as well as that dreaded "micro-contrast" which digital struggles with. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 02:58:26 2009 Received: (qmail 32377 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 00:58:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 00:58:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C207E18039 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B672CE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FB83610001 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:58:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D27034AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:58:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2062761bwz.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:58:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.193 with SMTP id e1mr2194782bkr.147.1239065900110; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:58:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA9F30.5060003@gmail.com> References: <57F632B9631C430BB53F7346A94656B3@hudson> <49DA9F30.5060003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:58:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c00994aa0f551178 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 02:58:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daa53262921585427447 > > I bought tickets for some friends, me and The Loved One for his 50th > birthday when Cirque du Soleil (I can't remember which performance) was > in Sydney. He was enthralled and absolutely loved it. Me...I just kept > waiting for an extraordinarily bad fall to happen, and not in a > hilarious Funniest Home Videos "football in the groin" kind of way, but > in an anxious "OMG! I can't watch! We're going to be able to hear the > bones snap!" kind of way. If he wants to go again, he can go by himself. > So, going to see a Cirque du Soleil performance is similar to going to see an auto-race. The popularity isn't in the racing, but in the wrecking. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 03:05:59 2009 Received: (qmail 13872 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 01:05:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:05:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF19E182E9 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2348E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82CD19F743 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:05:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36BE19F733 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:05:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9920 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 01:05:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:05:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DA9AFC.7030505@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA9AFC.7030505@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <1AB8D66E-D3C2-4A8E-81A2-DF379A06F62C@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:05:40 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 03:05:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daa6f7133342046811720 I'd recommend HP sauce. Traditional tastes were bland and modern paranoia means that everyone except the fast 'food' chains undersalt. Some salt and pepper are necessary. An empanada it is not. Too much TexMex makes the palate unsubtle. :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/04/2009, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > The pastie I had was filled with diced beef and potato with maybe some > turnip mixed in. The pie crust on the outside made it look delicious. > My taste buds (erroneously) had mental visions of Mexican empanadas > which I truly love. I bit in... and stopped. It wasn't that it > tasted > bad... it just didn't taste at all.. it had no salt, no pepper, no > spice > no nothing. It was then that I was advised that I needed to douse > it in > ketchup for flavor. I decided I'd like to eat something else. I > guess > it must be an acquired taste. :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 03:09:14 2009 Received: (qmail 22853 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 01:09:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:09:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5062AE182E2 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C438DE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B023219F749 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:09:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0025319E7FF for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11547 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 01:09:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:09:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DA9CBE.1070501@gmail.com> References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA9CBE.1070501@gmail.com> Message-Id: <408CAC84-4173-496B-97D6-BF3137931C63@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:09:04 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 03:09:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daa7ba202671823421471 "nasty' yeah - Oh, 'tasy' - I misread. I won't even try and explain that abomination to the rest of the world. They'll quarantine us immediately. Enough to say that the mere mention ruined my morning - perhaps the whole day. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/04/2009, at 10:22 AM, Marc Lawrence wrote: > Yeah, why would you get one of them, when there's a perfectly tasty > chiko roll to chew the end off, eat the guts out of, and fill the > deep-fried tube with some marty sauce? Pastie...blech! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 03:18:48 2009 Received: (qmail 15318 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 01:18:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:18:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D84E182FE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A8AE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CB03610001 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:18:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDA434AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHP00CGTIB7CSB2@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:18:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-222-118-144.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.118.144]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:18:43 -0300 Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:18:43 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <997C82C7D86B4273A2814EB0D2296B2B@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMMACRH2kkY3naQ/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmwGIHhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,333,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="462757247" References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA9AFC.7030505@chucknorcutt.com> <1AB8D66E-D3C2-4A8E-81A2-DF379A06F62C@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 03:18:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daa9f8166681234514069 HP Sauce ............it's made in Holland now. No longer a British product. Better stick with on-shore production. Marmite with diced beef, spuds and turnip sounds just the ticket. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > I'd recommend HP sauce. > Traditional tastes were bland and modern paranoia means that everyone > except the fast 'food' chains undersalt. > Some salt and pepper are necessary. > An empanada it is not. > Too much TexMex makes the palate unsubtle. :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 07/04/2009, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> The pastie I had was filled with diced beef and potato with maybe some >> turnip mixed in. The pie crust on the outside made it look delicious. >> My taste buds (erroneously) had mental visions of Mexican empanadas >> which I truly love. I bit in... and stopped. It wasn't that it >> tasted >> bad... it just didn't taste at all.. it had no salt, no pepper, no >> spice >> no nothing. It was then that I was advised that I needed to douse >> it in >> ketchup for flavor. I decided I'd like to eat something else. I >> guess >> it must be an acquired taste. :-) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 03:33:21 2009 Received: (qmail 17739 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 01:33:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:33:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC0EE1802F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D0CE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0893B19F795 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC4019F793 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jgettis81@earthlink.net whitelisted) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.175.76.62] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lr0Bf-0002Q2-Q9 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:33:16 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200942713313504@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.3.14.0 (Windows) From: "jgettis81@earthlink.net" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:33:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 6b7b8904845c0a29efb139d2bf51ae107e972de0d01da940bedc577a099b4bcf7b65d4d32b65b86b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.175.76.62 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 03:33:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daad61154831073733319 " don't like "pasties" (that's this type, > pronounced past-eez, not the type with the long A :-) " Now was that the pasties in Vegas on the show girls? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 03:47:05 2009 Received: (qmail 12900 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 01:47:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 01:47:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BD9E182EC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789BEE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559CB19F7AC for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:46:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6022E19F3DF for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:46:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so911843fga.13 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:46:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.65.9 with SMTP id n9mr3631259fga.55.1239068814993; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:46:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:46:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Confession X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 03:47:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dab09922631946193717 Thanks, Bill, and all you others for the encouragement. It's 2.45am here and I'm making prints. Still, two days ahead I'm nearly ready - better than I ever did with any of my real jobs :-) My printer is moaning about being low on light magenta though - I'm cutting it fine... Tom 2009/4/7 > Tom, congratulations. Well done and thanks for confessing! Bill Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 04:26:29 2009 Received: (qmail 875 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 02:26:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 02:26:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB47E18303 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283FBE2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085F819F7FD for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE219F80F for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2073736fxm.14 for ; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:26:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr3661902fgb.40.1239071183283; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:26:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] [IMG] Timewasting (Was Re: Confession ) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 04:26:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dab9d5119771529615919 I guess I shouldn't have spent the afternoon goofing around in town, but: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/111015632 Tom 2009/4/7 Tom Fenwick > Thanks, Bill, and all you others for the encouragement. It's 2.45am here > and I'm making prints. Still, two days ahead I'm nearly ready - better than > I ever did with any of my real jobs :-) > > My printer is moaning about being low on light magenta though - I'm cutting > it fine... > > Tom > > 2009/4/7 > >> Tom, congratulations. Well done and thanks for confessing! Bill Barber >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 05:18:26 2009 Received: (qmail 27673 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 03:18:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 03:18:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FCCE182E7 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3791E2412E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C456D19F89E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D44219F89D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090407031819.WKDO1731.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:18:19 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id cTJJ1b00C4Z9Gks02TJJWo; Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:18:18 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBp1gyimAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=7KDZsWndAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=xS31cQmJaa2fSEkwhigA:9 a=iFdSXL-vo4OBi35fmHIA:7 a=lPXP-0AJ2UT7jfwbOR7ZPMLMAdYA:4 a=ziFrdkHw70AA:10 a=lXm3xA6lcZoA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=YLE7H5wRqG0A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <2B1B763C2BCB4233B20754343B487BF4@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:18:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 05:18:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dac60298029117217770 Doug, You are being unduly charatable in my opinion Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, >> what's a Denny's? > > Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd > say > average food at average price. -Doug >> >> Wiliam >> >> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> > Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >> > Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >> > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> > >> > >> > If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >> > Peppermill. It is >> > something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >> > to a Denny's. >> > Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >> > >> > Bill Pearce >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >> > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >> > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >> > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> > >> > > Hi Chris, >> > > >> > > At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >> > > For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >> > > LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >> > > first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >> > > wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >> > > photo opportinities to be found also. >> > > >> > > Wiliam >> > > >> > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> > >> Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] >> > >> Verzonden: zondag 5 april 2009 20:00 >> > >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> > >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I wouldn't bother, visiting Las Vegas, Wiliam. It's a monument to >> > >> humans' transience and to the wastefulness of some parts of our >> > >> existence. >> > >> >> > >> But not far from LV are some truly gorgeous National Parks. >> > >> >> > >> Chris >> > >> >> > >> On 5 Apr 2009, at 17:34, Jan Steinman wrote: >> > >> >> I >> > >> >> understand that Las Vegas is nothing like any place >> > >> > else in the US >> > >> > >> >> (or >> > >> >> elsewhere) I guess that is why we want to visit that too. >> > >> > >> > >> > Better do it now before it dries up and blows away. If >> > >> >> > >> "water is the >> > >> >> > >> > next oil," then Laz Vegas's days are numbered. >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ >> > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > >> > > -- >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ------------------ >> > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release >> > Date: 04/05/09 >> > 10:54:00 >> > >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 06:22:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 07:08:03 2009 Received: (qmail 5972 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 05:08:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 05:08:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424A4E18310 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE4AE24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E4634AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:07:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C92B34AC024 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:07:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6505 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 05:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.175.64) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 05:07:52 -0000 Message-ID: <49DADF99.5010801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:07:37 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] [IMG] Timewasting (Was Re: Confession ) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 07:08:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dadfb3269151869477228 Tom Fenwick wrote: > I guess I shouldn't have spent the afternoon goofing around in town, but: If you got such a nice shot, how was the time wasted? :-) For fussy Moose eyes, the barrel distortion detracts. Still using the 21/3.5? A. Rectilinear Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 08:52:45 2009 Received: (qmail 9037 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 06:52:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 06:52:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADE7E1830D for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AEAE24130 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFC934AC025 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:52:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B2534AC01E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:52:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <17495347.8541239087792820.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from iburst-41-213-54-213.iburst.co.za ([41.213.54.213]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 686 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:03:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:27 +0200 References: <4631430.8481239034626530.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <49DA6308.3050502@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Room for another Film vs Digital test? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 08:52:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49daf83d62883675314703 I agree, chuck, but we had to trade off diffraction vs. depth of field, as this is a very 3D subject. But this test was nowhere serious enough in anyway to warrant proper "scientific" testing, just a bit of fun. On 06 Apr 2009, at 10:16 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I would suggest that both rigs are suffering from diffraction at the > apertures selected and each should open one stop. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 09:16:38 2009 Received: (qmail 2488 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 07:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 07:16:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7422BE182F5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02022E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B4C19FB79 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:16:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DCC19FB90 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:16:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 13so349567fge.13 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:16:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.3.4 with SMTP id 4mr3816960fgc.41.1239088591034; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:16:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:16:30 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ffc4e9c107fffcea Message-ID: <9f07ac840904070016k70b5b38cn5241494444625e8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 09:16:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dafdd674574673671140 So I can't take pictures of my daughter any more?Jez http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e6X1duua3BlpjFIA-K9s1w?feat=directlink On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > illegal to take a photograph of a police > office, military personnel or member of the intelligence services -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 09:47:50 2009 Received: (qmail 30360 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 07:47:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 07:47:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA854E182E8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870DCE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0F119DA5D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3FF19DA3C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:47:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7262 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 07:47:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 07:47:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840904070016k70b5b38cn5241494444625e8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> <9f07ac840904070016k70b5b38cn5241494444625e8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <67452726-8F91-43DC-A981-54F89EEE29AF@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:47:37 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 09:47:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db0526155241591313764 Clearly not - consider yourself under arrest - unless that weird civilian in the shot is your daughter (in which case, could you lend me fifty quid?) HMS St Albans? Whatever next - HMS Chipping Sodbury? HMS Leighton Buzzard? Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/04/2009, at 5:16 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > So I can't take pictures of my daughter any more?Jez > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e6X1duua3BlpjFIA-K9s1w? > feat=directlink > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martyn Smoothy > wrote: > >> illegal to take a photograph of a police >> office, military personnel or member of the intelligence services > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 11:08:53 2009 Received: (qmail 15146 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 09:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 09:08:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B60AE18305 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5495E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2D019DCD8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2602919DC50 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1995 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 09:08:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.170.83) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 09:08:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:08:32 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 11:08:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db1825326161838542571 Ken Norton wrote: > I'm rather partial to 283 343, 394 Thanks! I didn't get quite what I was looking for in 283, so it's nice that someone without an agenda enjoys it. With 344, again, I was berating myself for not getting them closer in. Aaaaah, 394. I LOVE complex reflections of light and color on moving water. That series of four is a favorite part of the gallery for me. I remember almost jumping up and down with excitement when we walked around he headland and that light and water came into view. If I had to pick a favorite of the four, it would be 394. > and 984. 984 I really like, but would love to have it all in focus front-to-back. > Hmmm.... Those last 11 images are from the F10. What I can't figure out is how they got to that size for the gallery. My usual work flow tracks aren't there and the color balance on 394 is obviously wonky. The rocks weren't purple. And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ f7.1 So I've posted a new version to the gallery. Not exactly tack sharp, but pretty much equal sharpness throughout. The overall slight lack of definition is probably partly diffraction limiting and partly the difficulty of rendering complex foliage at that size. I suppose now I have to check all those F10 images - sigh ... > Thanks for sharing > Mon plaisir. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 11:21:36 2009 Received: (qmail 11814 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 09:21:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 09:21:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AE1E18301 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F36CE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4883F19DECD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:21:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27C919DEA8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:21:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8328 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 09:21:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) 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Chicken, breads and such are slapped directly on the frighteningly hot terra cotta sides. The heat coming out of a commercial one looks like it's coming from a blast furnace. Fortunately, I don't need one, as we have finally found an Indian food place that is excellent and reasonably priced. Years ago, I read a piece in the Food section of our newspaper by an Indian woman. She claimed it was imposbile to get really good Indian food in a restaurant for cultural reasons. A restaurant is a business, and that's mens work, while women actually cook all the food in homes. Sure enough, when I started looking carefully, I found that all employees at Indian restaurants at which I ate were men, with one sole exception, a woman waiter, non-Indian, at one pretty good place. Years have passed, times change, and we now eat at a restaurant run entirely by women, from busing to cooking to owner. And the food is just lovely. It's all pretty much the same dishes, but somehow lighter, with fresher, subtler/more complex flavors. And Crepevine is opening just down the hill soon - oh joy! Happy Eating Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 12:21:01 2009 Received: (qmail 26215 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 10:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 10:21:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDAEE182FF for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A1AE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DB419E087 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:20:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C199819DBB7 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4707 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 10:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.180.70) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 10:20:51 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB28F8.4080300@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:20:40 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 12:21:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db290d157617350615338 Ian Nichols wrote: > 2009/3/29 Moose : > > >> With no intent to compare my photography with that of Weston - except that I'm willing to go further than 500 yds - I have a gallery of Pt.Lobos images that I rather like. >> >> > > For some reason, I'm attracted to number 29 - those windswept trees with their bleached trunks look a bit surreal. Oh, and the show-off sea otter, especially number 124. > Those trees are Monterrey Cypress, and have a rather limited range along the central Calif. coast. There are also quite a few along the No. coast, mostly in windbreaks, many of which are getting pretty old and losing some trees. There are also a few stands in protected spots right at the coast. I don't know if they are natural, or offspring of the windbreaks., The twisted, bleached trunks are common to all of them, but particularly interesting, as here, where they grow in the winds off the ocean. The foliage texture is also unique and instantly recognizable even from a distance. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 12:25:41 2009 Received: (qmail 22800 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 10:25:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 10:25:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE4BE182F8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F4CE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F3A34AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:25:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4793B34AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:25:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5334 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 10:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 10:25:27 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DB1B0E.6050206@gmail.com> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <49D9BEE7.8000406@picturepedia.org> <49D9C056.2030300@picturepedia.org> <3FB96A3B-164E-42B8-9E54-C8F1B3E05AF6@people.net.au> <49D9EB06.2050506@picturepedia.org> <49DB1B0E.6050206@gmail.com> Message-Id: <726898B3-35D3-4B06-866B-EC52004CA678@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:25:29 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] -. tandoori oven X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 12:25:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db2a25323422046811720 That sounds eerily familiar. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/04/2009, at 7:21 PM, Moose wrote: > A restaurant is a business, and that's mens work, > while women actually cook all the food in homes. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 12:30:03 2009 Received: (qmail 16990 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 10:30:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 10:30:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D75E1830C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D08E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9473734AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:29:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759C634AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:29:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so955911fga.13 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:29:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.33.10 with SMTP id g10mr41656fgg.56.1239100185175; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:29:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DADF99.5010801@gmail.com> References: <49DADF99.5010801@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:29:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [IMG] Timewasting (Was Re: Confession ) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 12:30:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db2b2b269971023412894 That's kind of what I meant about the time-wasting... Although it would have meant I could order an emergency light magenta cartridge for delivery this morning instead of tomorrow! It's still printing, but the flashing light is making me nervous. I am aware of the distortion as well. One day I will get PT Lens and sort it out. It was actually the 35/2 - sometimes it shows, and other times looks pretty straight. Yesterday's shots were all at f11 hyperfocal-ish setting. Is distortion aperture-dependent? Have another to look at: http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/111015589 Tom 2009/4/7 Moose > Tom Fenwick wrote: > > I guess I shouldn't have spent the afternoon goofing around in town, but: > > If you got such a nice shot, how was the time wasted? :-) > > For fussy Moose eyes, the barrel distortion detracts. Still using the > 21/3.5? > > A. Rectilinear Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 12:32:25 2009 Received: (qmail 9253 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 10:32:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 10:32:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDB1E18310 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE7FE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8733610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:32:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD83D34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:32:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2198669fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:32:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.65.9 with SMTP id n9mr43481fga.55.1239100338267; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 03:32:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <49DADF99.5010801@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:32:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [IMG] Timewasting (Was Re: Confession ) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 12:32:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db2bb9250031823421471 35/2 Zuiko, naturally... 2009/4/7 Tom Fenwick > That's kind of what I meant about the time-wasting... Although it would > have meant I could order an emergency light magenta cartridge for delivery > this morning instead of tomorrow! It's still printing, but the flashing > light is making me nervous. > > I am aware of the distortion as well. One day I will get PT Lens and sort > it out. It was actually the 35/2 - sometimes it shows, and other times > looks pretty straight. Yesterday's shots were all at f11 hyperfocal-ish > setting. Is distortion aperture-dependent? > > Have another to look at: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/111015589 > > Tom > > 2009/4/7 Moose > >> Tom Fenwick wrote: >> > I guess I shouldn't have spent the afternoon goofing around in town, >> but: >> >> If you got such a nice shot, how was the time wasted? :-) >> >> For fussy Moose eyes, the barrel distortion detracts. Still using the >> 21/3.5? >> >> A. Rectilinear Moose >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:18:22 2009 Received: (qmail 14370 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:18:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:18:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8733FE18310 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E8BE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBD334AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EE534AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2239366fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:18:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr153834fgb.3.1239106694172; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:18:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <67452726-8F91-43DC-A981-54F89EEE29AF@people.net.au> References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> <9f07ac840904070016k70b5b38cn5241494444625e8f@mail.gmail.com> <67452726-8F91-43DC-A981-54F89EEE29AF@people.net.au> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:18:14 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae85d20e738e4e20 Message-ID: <9f07ac840904070518v70ce416fw6e89efcb9c0df3fe@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:18:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db448e125111234514069 Not quite, but... http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/surface-fleet/type-23-frigates/ Jez ps - 50quid ? Cheque is in the post... On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > > HMS St Albans? Whatever next - HMS Chipping Sodbury? HMS Leighton > Buzzard? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:18:54 2009 Received: (qmail 20675 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:18:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A536E181D6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72A9E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9748A3610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1373234AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHQ002M1CV2C3DT@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:18:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DB4485.8020609@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:18:13 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com><49D8A841.6090508@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA11E4.9040202@verizon.net> <2247F3ACB6974035B948AE709B408948@SueHome> In-reply-to: <2247F3ACB6974035B948AE709B408948@SueHome> Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:18:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db44ae255311073733319 We occasionally see geese fly over, but they land in open spaces, which we definitely don't have. There's a nature preserve w/pond at Bill Richards Park. Last year, we found an area littered with hundreds of fresh feathers (and no blood). Perhaps the remains of molting. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Sue Pearce wrote: > Are geese safe in your neighborhood? I have a vision of a monty Python-like > scene where you are stalking the elusive goose. > > Bill Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hermanson" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:29 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner > > >> Yes, goose feather is my favorite tool for cleaning focus screens. I bet >> also safe for mirrors. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> Sorry, I can't help you with the sensor alignment. But I wouldn't worry >>> about cleaning the mirror any more than cleaning a lens. You might try >>> stroking it lightly with a small piece of Swiffer Duster if you have >>> some. If you don't have any or that doesn't do it completely then I >>> would swab it gently with a cotton swab and lens cleaner, alcohol or >>> what have you. Do it multiple times using a clean swab each time. >>> >>> Modern first surface mirrors are tougher than most people realize. They >>> are aluminized in a vacuum chamber by sputtering aluminum vapor onto the >>> surface to form a thin coating. As soon as the aluminum is exposed to >>> air the surface oxidizes to form a microscopically thin coating of >>> aluminum oxide. You might recognize aluminum oxide as the stuff that >>> grinding wheels are made of. So, while in an extremely thin layer, it's >>> also very hard. It should easily stand up to any cleaning solution you >>> might reasonably use on any other bit of optics. >>> >>> I think John Hermanson has spoken here of using bird feathers as a >>> sweep. But I have none such. :-) >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Doug wrote: >>>> I took my Polaroid sprintscan 4000 partially apart to clean the mirror >>>> in it. >>>> The question I have is how do I clean the mirror. It's dustier than I >>>> can >>>> just blow off and I don't want to blow the dust deeper into the scanner. >>>> The >>>> mirror appears to be a first surface mirror and I don't know what >>>> solvents I >>>> can use without damaging the metal. >>>> >>>> I also took what I believe to be the sensor off by mistake. Any opinions >>>> on >>>> realigning it. >>>> -Doug >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 > 06:22:00 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:23:49 2009 Received: (qmail 24989 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:23:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:23:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9605DE182CC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB14CE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC53F34AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D5234AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2241444fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:23:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.82.16 with SMTP id f16mr142754fgb.26.1239107022323; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:23:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DA647C.4000604@chucknorcutt.com> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> <49DA647C.4000604@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:23:42 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 82266dd2245b67aa Message-ID: <9f07ac840904070523o4dc6b1cfx20aacd5611e01e16@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:23:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db45d5187422046811720 Yeah - loved Charleston ... http://users.telenet.be/cunninghams/photogallery/favorites/pages/charleston%20church.htm br jez On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Chuck Norcutt < chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com> wrote: > Charleston, SC should be on everybody's itinerary. It's probably our > favorite place to visit. We've been there twice but not for quite some > time now. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:35:58 2009 Received: (qmail 11767 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:35:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:35:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDFAE18302 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9663E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FED19E377 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:35:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602AB19E236 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28008 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 12:35:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:35:42 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840904070518v70ce416fw6e89efcb9c0df3fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D76000.70904@m93.myzen.co.uk> <9f07ac840904070016k70b5b38cn5241494444625e8f@mail.gmail.com> <67452726-8F91-43DC-A981-54F89EEE29AF@people.net.au> <9f07ac840904070518v70ce416fw6e89efcb9c0df3fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <93671E72-23EF-4B1F-AF1D-DFBA05F967E0@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:35:43 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] UK Photography Petition X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:35:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db48ae228017350615338 Of course - HMS Chipping Sodbury would be a corvette... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 07/04/2009, at 10:18 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Not quite, but... > http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/surface-fleet/ > type-23-frigates/ > Jez > > ps - 50quid ? Cheque is in the post... > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Andrew Fildes > wrote: > >> >> HMS St Albans? Whatever next - HMS Chipping Sodbury? HMS Leighton >> Buzzard? >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:40:56 2009 Received: (qmail 23305 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:40:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:40:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F3CE182E1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F4E24131 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DA019E395 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B12019E3A5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHQ00644DVVNVRA@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:40:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DB49B2.9040003@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:40:18 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <43F90D85D62F458892AA6A867E80D8A9@wiliam> In-reply-to: <43F90D85D62F458892AA6A867E80D8A9@wiliam> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?, X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:40:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db49d8311991234514069 I figured. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi John, > > Sorry Long Island is not included in the trip. As said before there is > so much to see and only so little time :-( > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: John Hermanson [mailto:omtech1@verizon.net] >> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 14:35 >> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US?, >> >> >> If you pass through Long Island, give me a call :-) >> >> >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> usher99@aol.com wrote: >>> If you are near Boston, give me a ping. Tourism is down a tad here >>> but reserved New Englanders aren't any more surly than usual ;-) >>> I've read the wait staff is even a bit less gruff than usual at >>> Durgin-Park due to the down-turn. They'll soon ruin their >>> long-standing reputation. There are plenty other places to >> eat, many >>> wonderful---let me know. >>> >>> Mike >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:43:10 2009 Received: (qmail 15424 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:43:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D672BE1830D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8116AE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EC734AC029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:43:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2081134AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:43:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHQ00M4DDZFPXE3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:42:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:42:26 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> In-reply-to: <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:43:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db4a5e29991946193717 In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of ball bearing ammunition. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Paul Laughlin wrote: > A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The first > night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog "using" the > yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the dog, which > immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had possibly > killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up and ran > off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL > Paul in Portland OR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Fildes" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:16 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > >> How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? >> Neat trick tho' - but would probably offend water use restrictions >> around here. >> Now I had a friend who hated cats and used a sporting slingshot >> (catapult) with 12mm steel ball bearings on any who entered his >> garden - the cats didn't 'not come back' - they never actually left. >> Like a rifle without the noise - he was deadly accurate. >> But I suppose that's a bit too extreme for most of you. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:45:52 2009 Received: (qmail 6271 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:45:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:45:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36159E182CC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA28E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2194E19E3C9 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:45:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8887B19E3CA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp2.localnet.com (extsmtp2.localnet.com [207.251.194.40]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30280 invoked by uid 1013); 7 Apr 2009 12:45:45 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by holster (envelope-from , uid 1005) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. Clear:RC:0(10.30.204.254):SA:0(3.4/5.0):. Processed in 27.615955 secs); 07 Apr 2009 12:45:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp2.localnet.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:45:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 662 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 12:43:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-7-100.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.7.100]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp5.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2009 12:43:18 -0000 From: Doug To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:47:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> <2B1B763C2BCB4233B20754343B487BF4@SueHome> In-Reply-To: <2B1B763C2BCB4233B20754343B487BF4@SueHome> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904070847.41444.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:45:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db4b0078691234514069 On Monday, April 06, 2009 23:18, Sue Pearce wrote: > Doug, > > You are being unduly charatable in my opinion > > Bill Pearce Well, I have to have space at the bottom for Micky D's, BK and their ilk. On Further reflection your right. I find them average only because I order certain things of the menu. Breakfast or Burgers. My personal preference is for local diners. They vary all over the place, but good ones are really good and they are always interesting. In a town that I don't know, I watch for where people like the local electric and telephone linemen eat. Truck drivers are less reliable because the first requirement is that you have to be able to park a rig at least off the road. There are places I love to eat but I only stop there if I'm bobtailing, because The place only has limited parking. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 14:55:32 2009 Received: (qmail 13194 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 12:55:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 12:55:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A67E182F6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E80E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C3634AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6B734AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 05:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHQ002TIEK43Q8L@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:55:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DB4D1B.2090204@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:54:51 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904062213.n36MDcun001115@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-reply-to: <200904062213.n36MDcun001115@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Any problems with Zuiko 50-250? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 14:55:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db4d4441591234514069 I've seen something similar in a few 16mm f3.5. 8mm "may' be a separation problem. I've only seen 1 or 2, don't remember. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> John Hermanson wrote: >> >> Lens frosting (which makes the element appear sandblasted) seems to >> happen without warning and not necessarily due to how lens is stored or >> used. It affects 65-200 and 50-250. >> > > Is this the same problem as occurs with the 8mm fisheye ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 15:02:15 2009 Received: (qmail 17710 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 13:02:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 13:02:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D573AE18302 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3544E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4BC34AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D40434AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHQ00DL9EVDW4TK@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:02:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:01:36 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> In-reply-to: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 15:02:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db4ed7278577350615338 Denny's chain wide policy used to be: seat black people in a back corner, then ignore them, then if an order is taken make them pay in advance, make them wait longer than whites. This became a national incident when they pulled it on a group of black FBI agents that came in for lunch. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Doug wrote: > On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, >> what's a Denny's? > > Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd say > average food at average price. -Doug >> Wiliam >> >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >>> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>> >>> >>> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >>> Peppermill. It is >>> something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >>> to a Denny's. >>> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >>> >>> Bill Pearce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >>> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >>>> For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >>>> LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >>>> first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >>>> wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >>>> photo opportinities to be found also. >>>> >>>> Wiliam >>>> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 15:15:31 2009 Received: (qmail 3819 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 13:15:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 13:15:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E71EE18180 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7B8E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DDB34AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:15:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4D234AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:15:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp2.localnet.com (extsmtp2.localnet.com [207.251.194.40]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17904 invoked by uid 1013); 7 Apr 2009 13:15:24 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by holster (envelope-from , uid 1005) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 15:15:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db51f353941470116606 On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 09:01, John Hermanson wrote: > Denny's chain wide policy used to be: seat black people in a back > corner, then ignore them, then if an order is taken make them pay in > advance, make them wait longer than whites. This became a national > incident when they pulled it on a group of black FBI agents that came in > for lunch. I'd forgotten about that. In Syracuse it lead to a riot in the parking lot. I somehow remember it may have also involved some other group also, Indian (from India not Native American) or some Oriental group, Of course it was seasoned by alcohol since it was at 3am. It lead to enough bad press that particular Denny's was closed. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 15:24:08 2009 Received: (qmail 1572 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 13:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 13:24:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73473E182EF for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F0DE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1A119E515 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A256519E50A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:24:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp3.localnet.com (extsmtp3.localnet.com [207.251.201.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1656 invoked by uid 1011); 7 Apr 2009 13:24:02 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by bolster (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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Processed in 95.491936 secs); 07 Apr 2009 13:24:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp4.localnet.com) (10.30.204.254) by extsmtp3.localnet.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 13:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 19921 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 13:21:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host-64-179-7-100.syr.choiceone.net) ([64.179.7.100]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp4.localnet.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Apr 2009 13:21:25 -0000 From: Doug To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:26:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <200904042350.07740.doug9345@localnet.com> <2247F3ACB6974035B948AE709B408948@SueHome> <49DB4485.8020609@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DB4485.8020609@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200904070926.02082.doug9345@localnet.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Cleaning Mirror in film scanner X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 15:24:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db53f8296911073733319 On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 08:18, John Hermanson wrote: > We occasionally see geese fly over, but they land in open spaces, which > we definitely don't have. There's a nature preserve w/pond at Bill > Richards Park. Last year, we found an area littered with hundreds of > fresh feathers (and no blood). Perhaps the remains of molting. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > Sue Pearce wrote: > > Are geese safe in your neighborhood? I have a vision of a monty > > Python-like scene where you are stalking the elusive goose. > > Yes they are very safe. The problem is that the like to hang out on the edge of the road or even in it. Every year a goose, a raccoon and a beaver seems to get wacked on our road and a deer about every other year. When I drove down the road yesterday there were four pairs of geese and two seperate lone geese. The lone geese may actually been part of pairs where I didn't see the other goose. I don't know If we have the pair back that was in the pond outback last year. I haven't seen him walking around the lawn so I don't hink so. I'm don't thing they are setting on eggs yet. but it should be soon. There are also a pair of mallards swimming around. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 16:36:39 2009 Received: (qmail 2538 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 14:36:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 14:36:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802DE182ED for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2297E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8723B34AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA1234AC02B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n37EaQnJ018411 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:36:28 GMT Message-ID: <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:36:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 16:36:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db64f773261234514069 Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has completely deteriorated. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hermanson" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a > beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of > ball bearing ammunition. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Paul Laughlin wrote: >> A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The first >> night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog "using" the >> yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the dog, >> which >> immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had possibly >> killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up and ran >> off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL >> Paul in Portland OR >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew Fildes" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:16 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >> >> >>> How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? >>> Neat trick tho' - but would probably offend water use restrictions >>> around here. >>> Now I had a friend who hated cats and used a sporting slingshot >>> (catapult) with 12mm steel ball bearings on any who entered his >>> garden - the cats didn't 'not come back' - they never actually left. >>> Like a rifle without the noise - he was deadly accurate. >>> But I suppose that's a bit too extreme for most of you. >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 16:51:05 2009 Received: (qmail 19632 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 14:51:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 14:51:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F79EE182E3 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2ECE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3F319E87A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:51:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6234719E848 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao101.cox.net (eastrmmtao101.cox.net [68.230.240.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090407145059.DWEE13757.eastrmmtao101.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:50:59 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id ceqy1b00E4Z9Gks02eqyrT; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:50:58 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=he5QUmt6AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=zUuvTLt6NDyU7w1bQ6IA:9 a=MbOFC3Lxv_6PE6Y6VBMA:7 a=1DIDrvMavWl8ar3nkCGNlcfbNCsA:4 a=jgFIvOWqR8MA:10 a=R4WQGk8rqDwA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> <49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:50:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 16:51:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db6859317971023412894 Of course, what can you expect? The chain was formerly named "Sambo's" and was forced to change to Denny's. Probably after an old plantation owner. BIll Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hermanson" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Denny's chain wide policy used to be: seat black people in a back > corner, then ignore them, then if an order is taken make them pay in > advance, make them wait longer than whites. This became a national > incident when they pulled it on a group of black FBI agents that came in > for lunch. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Doug wrote: >> On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, >>> what's a Denny's? >> >> Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd >> say >> average food at average price. -Doug >>> Wiliam >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >>>> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>> >>>> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >>>> Peppermill. It is >>>> something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >>>> to a Denny's. >>>> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >>>> >>>> Bill Pearce >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >>>> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >>>>> For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >>>>> LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >>>>> first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >>>>> wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >>>>> photo opportinities to be found also. >>>>> >>>>> Wiliam >>>>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 06:22:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 16:52:21 2009 Received: (qmail 2968 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A65BE1830A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ED0E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C9334AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E9734AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:52:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2300883bwz.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.58.79 with SMTP id f15mr166279bkh.202.1239115933584; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:52:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4b497e881dbcc3cb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 16:52:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db68a5188891529615919 > > And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" > sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows > how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ f7.1 > On my A1, diffraction is not an issue at all at F7.1. Hyperfocal for a 2/3" sensor at 14mm and F7.1 is approximately 2m to infinity. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 16:57:07 2009 Received: (qmail 1813 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 14:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 14:57:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D50CE182F9 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351D2E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F25B34AC02D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1857C34AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1015948fkk.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.115.5 with SMTP id g5mr207524bkq.41.1239116218686; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:56:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 80a366af5fc62828 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 16:57:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db69c352871993019900 > > Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has > completely deteriorated. > I had a wrist-rocket. Used it so much that I was replacing the bungee on it about every two weeks. I was good, really really good. BTW, when one of those bungees snaps, it does wonders to your face. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:02:48 2009 Received: (qmail 22655 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:02:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:02:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071C2E18326 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACADE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5261434AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD47934AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:02:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:02:41 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n37F2bRO005163 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:02:39 GMT Message-ID: <5F027D200FCA4A18A914B5B66EEA5C16@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC><49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net><6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:02:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:02:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db6b18251831234514069 When I was a kid, we made slingshots using strips of automobile innertube which, at the time, was real rubber. I never had one of those break. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > >> Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has >> completely deteriorated. >> > > > I had a wrist-rocket. Used it so much that I was replacing the bungee on > it > about every two weeks. I was good, really really good. > > BTW, when one of those bungees snaps, it does wonders to your face. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:14:36 2009 Received: (qmail 6313 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:14:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:14:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A48E182E8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F5FE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3EA73610018 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDA73610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:14:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4274 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 15:14:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:14:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db6ddc51591993019900 The F10 actually has a 1/1.7" sensor which is a bit smaller than a 2/3" sensor. DOF at f/7.1 and 14mm at the hyperfocal distance of 12-1/4 feet should would be just over 6 feet to infinity. Since I guesstimate the depth of the image at perhaps 50 feet, focus at 10 feet would have given a DOF of 5-1/2 to 54. But, that's very little gain for taking a risk of losing the longer side of the DOF if you should misjudge the point of focus and focuse a bit too short. For example, if you actually focused at 9 feet vs. 10 feet the DOF on the long side would drop from 54 feet down to 34 feet. It's best to go for an approximation of the hyperfocal distance and overestimate on the long side. If you can learn to judge 15 feet, for example, the short side would only increase from 6 feet to 6-3/4 feet and you'd be assured of infinity on the long end. While I was on my long trip around the country it quickly became apparent to me (and quite a surprise) that my most used lens was turning out to be the Tamron 20-40 and almost always shot at either 20 or 40mm and little in between. As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I kept in my wallet. It says: f/stop 8 11 16 22 ====== == == == == 20mm 6 4 3 2 40mm 20 15 10 8 Those are the rounded-up hyperfocal distances in easily guesstimated even feet. Nearest focus, of course, is half of that. It worked very well for getting landscape shots with good foreground focus. I did use f/16 on occasion but f/11 is the limit to avoid diffraction on a 5D. I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor at 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and most certainly by f/5.6. Incidentally, your link to the modified photo didn't work. Drs. D&D Moose wrote: >> and 984. 984 I really like, but would love to have it all in focus front-to-back. >> > > Hmmm.... Those last 11 images are from the F10. What I can't figure out > is how they got to that size for the gallery. My usual work flow tracks > aren't there and the color balance on 394 is obviously wonky. The rocks > weren't purple. > > And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" > sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows > how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ f7.1 > > So I've posted a new version to the gallery. Not exactly tack sharp, but > pretty much equal sharpness throughout. The overall slight lack of > definition is probably partly diffraction limiting and partly the > difficulty of rendering complex foliage at that size. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:16:07 2009 Received: (qmail 860 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:16:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:16:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EF2E1835F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ECFE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C6E19E952 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:16:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665ED19E90B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:16:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so1657284ywq.80 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:16:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.8.17 with SMTP id 17mr434842anh.108.1239117360683; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:16:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5F027D200FCA4A18A914B5B66EEA5C16@jimnichols> References: <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> <5F027D200FCA4A18A914B5B66EEA5C16@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:16:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904070816l17b60512lee42d44a314230ff@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:16:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db6e3757881234514069 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Jim Nichols wrot= e: > When I was a kid, we made slingshots using strips of automobile innertube > which, at the time, was real rubber. =A0I never had one of those break. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA I had one of those and I got pretty accurate with it. I shot my older brother with a B-B in the back as he stood about 50 yards away from me across a field. He was so impressed he didn't beat me up. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:29:16 2009 Received: (qmail 9925 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:29:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797E4E18307 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B1CE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BCA34AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:29:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAD634AC02A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:29:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:29:09 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n37FT4Bm030555 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:29:07 GMT Message-ID: <983F36FC3C094DAB80FA14EC37D33EDA@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:29:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:29:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db714c45122336821329 I recently shot the view out of my home office window with my E-510 and Elmarit-R 2.8/28, and was surprised at the difference from a shot made several years earlier with my F10. I do not have the apertures recorded, but the difference in DOF is very obvious. E-510 and Elmarit-R: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Back+Yard+in+Spring.tif.html F10: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/WindowView02a.JPG.html Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] > The F10 actually has a 1/1.7" sensor which is a bit smaller than a 2/3" > sensor. DOF at f/7.1 and 14mm at the hyperfocal distance of 12-1/4 feet > should would be just over 6 feet to infinity. Since I guesstimate the > depth of the image at perhaps 50 feet, focus at 10 feet would have given > a DOF of 5-1/2 to 54. But, that's very little gain for taking a risk of > losing the longer side of the DOF if you should misjudge the point of > focus and focuse a bit too short. For example, if you actually focused > at 9 feet vs. 10 feet the DOF on the long side would drop from 54 feet > down to 34 feet. It's best to go for an approximation of the hyperfocal > distance and overestimate on the long side. If you can learn to judge > 15 feet, for example, the short side would only increase from 6 feet to > 6-3/4 feet and you'd be assured of infinity on the long end. > > While I was on my long trip around the country it quickly became > apparent to me (and quite a surprise) that my most used lens was turning > out to be the Tamron 20-40 and almost always shot at either 20 or 40mm > and little in between. As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop > and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I kept > in my wallet. It says: > > f/stop 8 11 16 22 > ====== == == == == > 20mm 6 4 3 2 > 40mm 20 15 10 8 > > Those are the rounded-up hyperfocal distances in easily guesstimated > even feet. Nearest focus, of course, is half of that. It worked very > well for getting landscape shots with good foreground focus. I did use > f/16 on occasion but f/11 is the limit to avoid diffraction on a 5D. > > I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor at > 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and most > certainly by f/5.6. > > Incidentally, your link to the modified photo didn't work. > > Drs. D&D > > > > > > > Moose wrote: > >>> and 984. 984 I really like, but would love to have it all in focus >>> front-to-back. >>> >> >> Hmmm.... Those last 11 images are from the F10. What I can't figure out >> is how they got to that size for the gallery. My usual work flow tracks >> aren't there and the color balance on 394 is obviously wonky. The rocks >> weren't purple. >> >> And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" >> sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows >> how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ >> f7.1 >> >> So I've posted a new version to the gallery. Not exactly tack sharp, but >> pretty much equal sharpness throughout. The overall slight lack of >> definition is probably partly diffraction limiting and partly the >> difficulty of rendering complex foliage at that size. >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:32:17 2009 Received: (qmail 27173 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:32:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3C9E182ED for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9DAE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC22519E9C4 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0567B19E9A4 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com (mail-qy0-f103.google.com [209.85.221.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so5037026qyk.22 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:32:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.47.16 with SMTP id l16mr406894qaf.109.1239118329188; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:32:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840904070523o4dc6b1cfx20aacd5611e01e16@mail.gmail.com> References: <96B137C22FEA43428471D043E7B17DC5@wiliam> <14883a8b0904060748s381597bfldf9ab6e1a9eee6c3@mail.gmail.com> <49DA647C.4000604@chucknorcutt.com> <9f07ac840904070523o4dc6b1cfx20aacd5611e01e16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:32:08 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0904070832g29bfb3e8xa2f38d41de1d87ef@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:32:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db7201184291234514069 Jez, Nice photo of St. Michaels. If I have my rebellions straight, St. Michaels' bells were removed early in the Civil War, shipped to Great Britain and later returned and re-installed. Likely saved them from the locals melting them down for cannons. Charlie On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Yeah - loved Charleston ... > > http://users.telenet.be/cunninghams/photogallery/favorites/pages/charleston%20church.htm > br > jez > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Chuck Norcutt < > chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com> wrote: > > > Charleston, SC should be on everybody's itinerary. It's probably our > > favorite place to visit. We've been there twice but not for quite some > > time now. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:34:36 2009 Received: (qmail 2715 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:34:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:34:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37DFE1830C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F85E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877A534AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:34:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B3534AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:34:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f103.google.com (mail-qy0-f103.google.com [209.85.221.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so5039745qyk.22 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:34:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.74.9 with SMTP id s9mr381963qaj.321.1239118469918; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:34:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <983F36FC3C094DAB80FA14EC37D33EDA@jimnichols> References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <983F36FC3C094DAB80FA14EC37D33EDA@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:34:29 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0904070834t4717d997vf08bc70cdef3e6af@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:34:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db728c168458512572685 Indeed Jim. You also pruned your tree. Charlie On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Jim Nichols wrote: > I recently shot the view out of my home office window with my E-510 and > Elmarit-R 2.8/28, and was surprised at the difference from a shot made > several years earlier with my F10. I do not have the apertures recorded, > but > the difference in DOF is very obvious. > E-510 and Elmarit-R: > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Back+Yard+in+Spring.tif.html > > F10: > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/WindowView02a.JPG.html > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:14 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] > > > > The F10 actually has a 1/1.7" sensor which is a bit smaller than a 2/3" > > sensor. DOF at f/7.1 and 14mm at the hyperfocal distance of 12-1/4 feet > > should would be just over 6 feet to infinity. Since I guesstimate the > > depth of the image at perhaps 50 feet, focus at 10 feet would have given > > a DOF of 5-1/2 to 54. But, that's very little gain for taking a risk of > > losing the longer side of the DOF if you should misjudge the point of > > focus and focuse a bit too short. For example, if you actually focused > > at 9 feet vs. 10 feet the DOF on the long side would drop from 54 feet > > down to 34 feet. It's best to go for an approximation of the hyperfocal > > distance and overestimate on the long side. If you can learn to judge > > 15 feet, for example, the short side would only increase from 6 feet to > > 6-3/4 feet and you'd be assured of infinity on the long end. > > > > While I was on my long trip around the country it quickly became > > apparent to me (and quite a surprise) that my most used lens was turning > > out to be the Tamron 20-40 and almost always shot at either 20 or 40mm > > and little in between. As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop > > and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I kept > > in my wallet. It says: > > > > f/stop 8 11 16 22 > > ====== == == == == > > 20mm 6 4 3 2 > > 40mm 20 15 10 8 > > > > Those are the rounded-up hyperfocal distances in easily guesstimated > > even feet. Nearest focus, of course, is half of that. It worked very > > well for getting landscape shots with good foreground focus. I did use > > f/16 on occasion but f/11 is the limit to avoid diffraction on a 5D. > > > > I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor at > > 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and most > > certainly by f/5.6. > > > > Incidentally, your link to the modified photo didn't work. > > > > Drs. D&D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moose wrote: > > > >>> and 984. 984 I really like, but would love to have it all in focus > >>> front-to-back. > >>> > >> > >> Hmmm.... Those last 11 images are from the F10. What I can't figure out > >> is how they got to that size for the gallery. My usual work flow tracks > >> aren't there and the color balance on 394 is obviously wonky. The rocks > >> weren't purple. > >> > >> And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" > >> sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows > >> how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ > >> f7.1 > >> > >> So I've posted a new version to the gallery. Not exactly tack sharp, but > >> pretty much equal sharpness throughout. The overall slight lack of > >> definition is probably partly diffraction limiting and partly the > >> difficulty of rendering complex foliage at that size. > >> > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:37:12 2009 Received: (qmail 8934 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:37:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:37:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E8CE1830E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EE6E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2240E19E9FD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:37:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC0119E9DD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n37Fb0KT003876 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:37:03 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com><49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com><49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com><983F36FC3C094DAB80FA14EC37D33EDA@jimnichols> <14883a8b0904070834t4717d997vf08bc70cdef3e6af@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:37:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:37:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db7328232197927319144 Hi Charlie, Yes, we had to prune it to keep the squirrels from using the branch as a launching pad to reach the bird feeders. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Geilfuss" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] > Indeed Jim. You also pruned your tree. > > Charlie > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Jim Nichols > wrote: > >> I recently shot the view out of my home office window with my E-510 and >> Elmarit-R 2.8/28, and was surprised at the difference from a shot made >> several years earlier with my F10. I do not have the apertures recorded, >> but >> the difference in DOF is very obvious. >> E-510 and Elmarit-R: >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Back+Yard+in+Spring.tif.html >> >> F10: >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/WindowView02a.JPG.html >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chuck Norcutt" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:14 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] >> >> >> > The F10 actually has a 1/1.7" sensor which is a bit smaller than a 2/3" >> > sensor. DOF at f/7.1 and 14mm at the hyperfocal distance of 12-1/4 >> > feet >> > should would be just over 6 feet to infinity. Since I guesstimate the >> > depth of the image at perhaps 50 feet, focus at 10 feet would have >> > given >> > a DOF of 5-1/2 to 54. But, that's very little gain for taking a risk >> > of >> > losing the longer side of the DOF if you should misjudge the point of >> > focus and focuse a bit too short. For example, if you actually focused >> > at 9 feet vs. 10 feet the DOF on the long side would drop from 54 feet >> > down to 34 feet. It's best to go for an approximation of the >> > hyperfocal >> > distance and overestimate on the long side. If you can learn to judge >> > 15 feet, for example, the short side would only increase from 6 feet to >> > 6-3/4 feet and you'd be assured of infinity on the long end. >> > >> > While I was on my long trip around the country it quickly became >> > apparent to me (and quite a surprise) that my most used lens was >> > turning >> > out to be the Tamron 20-40 and almost always shot at either 20 or 40mm >> > and little in between. As soon as I realized that I fired up the >> > laptop >> > and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I >> > kept >> > in my wallet. It says: >> > >> > f/stop 8 11 16 22 >> > ====== == == == == >> > 20mm 6 4 3 2 >> > 40mm 20 15 10 8 >> > >> > Those are the rounded-up hyperfocal distances in easily guesstimated >> > even feet. Nearest focus, of course, is half of that. It worked very >> > well for getting landscape shots with good foreground focus. I did use >> > f/16 on occasion but f/11 is the limit to avoid diffraction on a 5D. >> > >> > I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor >> > at >> > 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and >> > most >> > certainly by f/5.6. >> > >> > Incidentally, your link to the modified photo didn't work. >> > >> > Drs. D&D >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Moose wrote: >> > >> >>> and 984. 984 I really like, but would love to have it all in focus >> >>> front-to-back. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Hmmm.... Those last 11 images are from the F10. What I can't figure >> >> out >> >> is how they got to that size for the gallery. My usual work flow >> >> tracks >> >> aren't there and the color balance on 394 is obviously wonky. The >> >> rocks >> >> weren't purple. >> >> >> >> And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" >> >> sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows >> >> how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ >> >> f7.1 >> >> >> >> So I've posted a new version to the gallery. Not exactly tack sharp, >> >> but >> >> pretty much equal sharpness throughout. The overall slight lack of >> >> definition is probably partly diffraction limiting and partly the >> >> difficulty of rendering complex foliage at that size. >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:40:51 2009 Received: (qmail 22296 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:40:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:40:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BA6E18318 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD9CE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B91119E937 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:40:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFE319E892 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:40:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22532 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 15:40:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 15:40:20 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB73E3.1040405@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:40:19 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DADF99.5010801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [IMG] Timewasting (Was Re: Confession ) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:40:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db740373342070262475 There doesn't appear to be any PTLens profile for an OM Zuiko 35 of any type. There are profiles for the 21/3.5, 24/2.8 and 24 shift at various shifted positions. Also, no profiles at all for 3rd party lenses on E-things. Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > That's kind of what I meant about the time-wasting... Although it would > have meant I could order an emergency light magenta cartridge for delivery > this morning instead of tomorrow! It's still printing, but the flashing > light is making me nervous. > > I am aware of the distortion as well. One day I will get PT Lens and sort > it out. It was actually the 35/2 - sometimes it shows, and other times > looks pretty straight. Yesterday's shots were all at f11 hyperfocal-ish > setting. Is distortion aperture-dependent? > > Have another to look at: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/111015589 > > Tom > > 2009/4/7 Moose > >> Tom Fenwick wrote: >>> I guess I shouldn't have spent the afternoon goofing around in town, but: >> If you got such a nice shot, how was the time wasted? :-) >> >> For fussy Moose eyes, the barrel distortion detracts. Still using the >> 21/3.5? >> >> A. Rectilinear Moose >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:42:33 2009 Received: (qmail 4270 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:42:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:42:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A032CE182F8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06ABDE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF65A34AC029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDCC34AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24008 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 15:42:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 15:42:26 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB7462.8070702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:42:26 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DA70BC.9010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DA9AFC.7030505@chucknorcutt.com> <1AB8D66E-D3C2-4A8E-81A2-DF379A06F62C@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <1AB8D66E-D3C2-4A8E-81A2-DF379A06F62C@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:42:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db7469326402336821329 I always vote for unsubtle. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > I'd recommend HP sauce. > Traditional tastes were bland and modern paranoia means that everyone > except the fast 'food' chains undersalt. > Some salt and pepper are necessary. > An empanada it is not. > Too much TexMex makes the palate unsubtle. :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 07/04/2009, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> The pastie I had was filled with diced beef and potato with maybe some >> turnip mixed in. The pie crust on the outside made it look delicious. >> My taste buds (erroneously) had mental visions of Mexican empanadas >> which I truly love. I bit in... and stopped. It wasn't that it >> tasted >> bad... it just didn't taste at all.. it had no salt, no pepper, no >> spice >> no nothing. It was then that I was advised that I needed to douse >> it in >> ketchup for flavor. I decided I'd like to eat something else. I >> guess >> it must be an acquired taste. :-) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:47:16 2009 Received: (qmail 263 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:47:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:47:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDB6E182F2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FACE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827A19EA5B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36B819EA54 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:47:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27184 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 15:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 15:47:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49DB7578.1030809@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:47:04 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <380-2200942713313504@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <380-2200942713313504@earthlink.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:47:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db7584202551234514069 That type of pasties is probably extinct everywhere in the US. Certainly not to be seen in Vegas. Chuck Norcutt jgettis81@earthlink.net wrote: > " don't like "pasties" (that's this type, >> pronounced past-eez, not the type with the long A :-) " > Now was that the pasties in Vegas on the show girls? > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 17:52:57 2009 Received: (qmail 6203 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 15:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 15:52:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A9AE18307 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290E2E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0908A34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75C734AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 1259EE6BDG for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:50 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:52:38 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <49DB7578.1030809@chucknorcutt.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm3mCOqkEC3dS2ETuKepLMP+aFYSgAAGeWQ From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2009 15:52:50.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[E76DE220:01C9B798] Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 17:52:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db76d948702070262475 >That type of pasties is probably extinct everywhere in the US. >Certainly not to be seen in Vegas. >Chuck Norcutt The entrepreneurs up here have taken to having the baristas at drive through espresso stands wear them... And less. Becoming a bit of a social point of contention. Some of the stands have floor to ceiling windows on the street side. Who knew coffee could be so distracting? 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 18:01:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db78ca29001585427447 Put some tasty traditional Cheddar or Stilton cheese on a PASTY (according = to my battered Oxford dictionary) ;-) bake until cheese melts, smother with= Lea and Perins worcestershire sauce, and eat...delicious. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK .......................................................................... --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Andrew Fildes wrote: > From: Andrew Fildes > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 2:05 AM > I'd recommend HP sauce. > Traditional tastes were bland and modern paranoia means > that everyone=A0 = > except the fast 'food' chains undersalt. > Some salt and pepper are necessary. > An empanada it is not. > Too much TexMex makes the palate unsubtle.=A0 :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > On 07/04/2009, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: = > > The pastie I had was filled with diced beef and potato > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 18:12:29 2009 Received: (qmail 25499 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 16:12:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 16:12:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB58E18309 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A99E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD3A34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D1634AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:12:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22264 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Apr 2009 16:12:21 -0000 Message-ID: <468924.21741.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: _eZ615YVM1k0w.mPVI6sKoZLNQMtCBrlKOUds5r.OQ5Sk_Xb2CjaxGsnzBN9bMd8cL6rnXlDP7auJdxoERlZRNNP.ujaLMER_OhSFJ9zopc7TBhvWYDf5PF68mEug_3AgXXXBWox1_f4fJs0FvzdLIQNhpWB2TBSVzzdHhOxcjhkubeXYvo3V7D2Y4whSCXJe3aypvPEE4pPFFoaAjdmbyN8k5_W0j4Y_TeGlS8CNnt9IAji6rPBJ82.wbedhuGx39pbQrKkJz3FvVfdL3X8CgKmF5NtxM5almbq.P5H9Vd9aEgK7QqHXRP1uMt7K1lb.WTxTZRfxLzYUf3kKl.IZZ_a7eWJWwg- Received: from [86.165.219.198] by web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:12:20 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:20 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 18:12:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db7b6d188151234514069 AG...You obviously have not had good pasties....as to head cheese it sounds= distinctly rude! ;-0 Of course I will let you off as the American cheeses are as a rule pretty d= esperate foods. It is one of the things I miss when I travel to the States.= Always try to bring some decent cheese...and a large bottle of Worcestersh= ire sauce, and Colmans mustard when I visit.....Already have mustard and sa= uce ready for visit this summer. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK .......................................................................... --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Ken Norton wrote: > From: Ken Norton > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 11:34 PM = > Pasties are definitely one of those food items that was > created to serve a > purpose, but otherwise isn't anything to go out of your way > for.=A0 Kinda like > head cheese. = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 18:31:20 2009 Received: (qmail 3595 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 16:31:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 16:31:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1BFE18311 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2922F16E0002 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1427B19EAFC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3CB19E851 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:31:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2343640fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:31:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.77.102 with SMTP id f38mr282813bkk.62.1239121871355; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:31:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:31:11 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb1d663d118988a7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 18:31:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db7fd8308141234514069 > > As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop > and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I kept > in my wallet. Am I the only one that sees the stupidity in "progress?" My old Zuikos of very useful DoF marking all over them. Granted, my preference is to go 1-stop farther than the markings indicate, but nearly every lens has something to go by. No guessing, no cheat sheets. I realize I'm starting to sound like an old coot: "They don't make cameras like they used to". But for crying out loud, we call this an improvement? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 18:43:21 2009 Received: (qmail 26434 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 16:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 16:43:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C079CE182F8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAF9E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E28A3610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3D634AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:43:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:43:14 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n37GhA0r002911 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:43:12 GMT Message-ID: <4D288ECE8EFB43939A60A266CACB3FC5@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com><49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com><49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:43:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 18:43:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db82a9295961234514069 Ken, I have the same complaint about autofocus lenses. My ZD 14-54 does a nice job of finding focus automatically, but the rediculous manual focusing scale and lack of DOF scale are the reason I purchased a Leica-R lens when I chose to add a prime. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] > > >> As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop >> and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I kept >> in my wallet. > > > > Am I the only one that sees the stupidity in "progress?" My old Zuikos of > very useful DoF marking all over them. Granted, my preference is to go > 1-stop farther than the markings indicate, but nearly every lens has > something to go by. No guessing, no cheat sheets. > > I realize I'm starting to sound like an old coot: "They don't make cameras > like they used to". But for crying out loud, we call this an improvement? > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 19:09:53 2009 Received: (qmail 10510 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 17:09:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 17:09:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FDBE18181 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD34E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7DE19ECC2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677EF19ECB5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:09:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d59.3c08e009 (39332) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:09:40 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:09:40 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 19:09:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db88e1302281585427447 John, you are correct, head cheese is rude and would be regardless of what name it was given.Last time I was across the pond, I had spotted dick, however you didn't see me talking about it, until now. Bill Barber In a message dated 4/7/2009 11:12:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john.duggan10@btinternet.com writes: AG...You obviously have not had good pasties....as to head cheese it sounds distinctly rude! ;-0 Of course I will let you off as the American cheeses are as a rule pretty desperate foods. It is one of the things I miss when I travel to the States. Always try to bring some decent cheese...and a large bottle of Worcestershire sauce, and Colmans mustard when I visit.....Already have mustard and sauce ready for visit this summer. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK .......................................................................... --- On Mon, 6/4/09, Ken Norton wrote: > From: Ken Norton > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 11:34 PM > Pasties are definitely one of those food items that was > created to serve a > purpose, but otherwise isn't anything to go out of your way > for. Kinda like > head cheese. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 19:10:33 2009 Received: (qmail 10812 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 17:10:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 17:10:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD334E18316 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D80E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF063610002 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:10:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C3834AC032 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:10:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2358550fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:10:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.114.136 with SMTP id e8mr286563bkq.190.1239124223806; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:10:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4D288ECE8EFB43939A60A266CACB3FC5@jimnichols> References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <4D288ECE8EFB43939A60A266CACB3FC5@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:10:23 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a021fc2e71873c31 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 19:10:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db8909195717927319144 Jim N. wrote: > > I have the same complaint about autofocus lenses. My ZD 14-54 does a > nice job of finding focus automatically, but the rediculous manual focusing > scale and lack of DOF scale are the reason I purchased a Leica-R lens when I > chose to add a prime. > So I'm NOT alone? I've been feeling like the lone wolf howling in the desert. AG (Arrooooooooooooo) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 19:24:49 2009 Received: (qmail 19487 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 17:24:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 17:24:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5709BE182FF for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC1E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F0819ECFB for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD5D19ED0D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LrF2R-00007V-5Z for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:24:43 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1LrF2Q-0004eg-Rb for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:24:42 +0100 Message-ID: <49DB8C61.4010002@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:24:49 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] GeeBee X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 19:24:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db8c61133331023412894 I just had a weird experience; clicked a link by mistake and found myself at Graham's site. I thought it was down? Any more news? The photos are as great as ever... D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 19:48:07 2009 Received: (qmail 31260 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 17:48:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 17:48:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F11E182F7 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A64E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849183610018 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:48:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609EF34AC02B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:47:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 96398 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Apr 2009 17:47:57 -0000 Message-ID: <464045.96347.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JlAaXVEVM1m5pDtHtIzajmX8p8uLw5XTl3_3dKGnb.ahhXqZCckm4khFQDqeDCVMZ4y83yvIcP6j478N8ac7Pz8iMS8hJ3np3wPCht51hW.F4ChMks6q0bZwqo7ZcH1hoAvUcXZwj47HL87jCgPpzD1R4YMhnlCIIJYiHJb7w8Tgft0WaEY75cavepZQyiA95Com0sgFU1ErDyhoMV7COTCmp_SsuPEaePAXgKAKh03zbaDRyH0ZsLz0MmciiIYTgVB5TiFckUVhVJ98sJb8aCPeho83bFg_ng0yP7SNbj_VwqRye1u9KM7La5m4LedtbXZbnsd.EZhEEo6WdmOQKNX._mVwocQ- Received: from [86.165.219.198] by web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:47:56 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:47:56 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 19:48:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db91d7235811234514069 Bill, you remind me of a delicacy from my youth. Spotted dick (with or with= out proper custard for tea) But the best bit is having the left over slices= for breakfast fried and gently browned in butter AHHHH. ;-0 Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK --- On Tue, 7/4/09, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > From: NSURIT@aol.com > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 6:09 PM > John, you are correct, head cheese is > rude and would be regardless of what=A0 = > name it was given.Last time I was across the pond, I had > spotted dick, however=A0 = > you didn't see me talking about it, until now.=A0 Bill > Barber = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 20:28:21 2009 Received: (qmail 28410 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 18:28:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 18:28:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1CFE182E4 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78905E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6967A3610016 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C091F3610014 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20876 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 18:28:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 20:28:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db9b4554897350615338 I have no 21mm Zuiko. Otherwise I'd have been very happy to use it. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop >> and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I kept >> in my wallet. > > > > Am I the only one that sees the stupidity in "progress?" My old Zuikos of > very useful DoF marking all over them. Granted, my preference is to go > 1-stop farther than the markings indicate, but nearly every lens has > something to go by. No guessing, no cheat sheets. > > I realize I'm starting to sound like an old coot: "They don't make cameras > like they used to". But for crying out loud, we call this an improvement? > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 20:34:48 2009 Received: (qmail 2277 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 18:34:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 18:34:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61B9E18302 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D447E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850D719EDC1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5B219ED7B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so2389319bwz.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:34:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.68.15 with SMTP id t15mr366546bki.139.1239129279056; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:34:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <464045.96347.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <464045.96347.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:34:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b2b90dcd0ed2f648 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 20:34:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db9cc876643675314703 > > Bill, you remind me of a delicacy from my youth. Spotted dick (with or > without proper custard for tea)... Trust me. Having met Bill and hiked with him for a week on Isle Royale, he's anything but that particular delicacy. Joel might have a differing opinion, but we're pretty forgiving of anybody who has nicer Olympus equipment than we do. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 20:37:15 2009 Received: (qmail 11641 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 18:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 18:37:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F1EE1830A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD1FE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EA134AC02A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6050F34AC029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cd4t1b00E0vp7WLA2idBWa; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:37:11 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cidA1b0062Axmu48RidAUt; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:37:11 +0000 Message-ID: <3CBE504850A64610B52EF0BA06598BD3@PaulPC> From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC><49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net><6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> <5F027D200FCA4A18A914B5B66EEA5C16@jimnichols> In-Reply-To: <5F027D200FCA4A18A914B5B66EEA5C16@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:37:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 20:37:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db9d5b19854673671140 Oh yeah. We were always on the lookout for the perfect willow crotch and there were always old inner tubes around. However, I have had them break. Sometimes, because they were not tied off well enough. LOL While in High School, I made one out of stainless steel wire, model airplane rubbers and a piece of glove leather. Really great for BBs. Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > When I was a kid, we made slingshots using strips of automobile innertube > which, at the time, was real rubber. I never had one of those break. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 20:38:32 2009 Received: (qmail 8244 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 18:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 18:38:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9785DE182FA for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B0E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EC619EE58 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:38:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5F919EE81 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:38:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2393664fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:38:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.82 with SMTP id w18mr371252bkh.129.1239129504633; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:38:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DB8C61.4010002@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <49DB8C61.4010002@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:38:24 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 946b6d830f7ef5bf Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] GeeBee X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 20:38:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49db9da855203675314703 > > I just had a weird experience; clicked a link by mistake and found > myself at Graham's site. Good! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 20:51:29 2009 Received: (qmail 4322 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 18:51:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 18:51:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D45E18307 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5C4E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A321CD48A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A241CD487 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ccwt1b00G0EPchoA2irPec; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:51:23 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cirN1b00S2Axmu48MirP7e; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:51:23 +0000 Message-ID: <97B7D1542B474396BD58E4EE18D23AF1@PaulPC> From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com><49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:51:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 20:51:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dba0b1235801234514069 There were Denny's for quite some time before Sambo's closed. In Oklahoma City, at least. I used to frequent both. Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Of course, what can you expect? The chain was formerly named "Sambo's" and > was forced to change to Denny's. Probably after an old plantation owner. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 20:55:51 2009 Received: (qmail 21712 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 18:55:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 18:55:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CA0E1830B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DC7E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A56F19EED8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB41A19EED7 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com [129.196.250.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.75]) by dhrseasvgw01.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id DACCDF1CK5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf01.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:41 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:55:10 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <97B7D1542B474396BD58E4EE18D23AF1@PaulPC> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Trip to the US? Thread-Index: Acm3sdztL/8zANDMTyeDhfqykal1hwAAGNJA From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2009 18:55:41.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[730AD040:01C9B7B2] Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 20:55:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dba1b7119902046811720 Yes, Denny's and Sambo's co-existed up here for some time as well. The last Sambo's that I was aware of (down in Oregon) became something else altogether, not a Denny's. Jim -- -----Original Message----- From: Paul Laughlin [mailto:pelaughlin@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:52 AM To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? There were Denny's for quite some time before Sambo's closed. In Oklahoma City, at least. I used to frequent both. Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Of course, what can you expect? The chain was formerly named "Sambo's" > and was forced to change to Denny's. Probably after an old plantation > owner. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. 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Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Ken Norton wrote: > From: Ken Norton > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 7:34 PM > > > > Bill, you remind me of a delicacy from my youth. > Spotted dick (with or > > without proper custard for tea)... > = > = > = > Trust me.=A0 Having met Bill and hiked with him for a > week on Isle Royale, > he's anything but that particular delicacy.=A0 Joel > might have a differing > opinion, but we're pretty forgiving of anybody who has > nicer Olympus > equipment than we do. > = > AG > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:09:56 2009 Received: (qmail 15399 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:09:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:09:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CCAE182F5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33B8E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E53C34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:09:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E2734AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:09:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19281 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 19:09:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 19:09:42 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBA4F6.8020006@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:09:42 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Wrong lens mount but... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:09:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dba5045241499373980 This has the wrong lens mount (unless, like someone I know, you have a Minolta 58mm f/1.2) but isn't this the sort of thing we were hoping to see from Olympus a number of years ago? Very interesting. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:16:24 2009 Received: (qmail 23624 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:16:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:16:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DE9E182D0 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A808BE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797BD34AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B2F34AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl36.gs02.gridserver.com (cl36.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.45]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-178-232.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.178.232]:50159 helo=[192.168.2.4]) by cl36.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LrGmQ-0003Nt-2s for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:16:18 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:16:15 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Wrong lens mount but... Thread-Index: Acm3tVIIkNl3hiOoEd6ePgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <49DBA4F6.8020006@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Wrong lens mount but... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:16:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dba688158921585427447 If you click the link at the bottom of the page you go to a page that says APRIL FOOLS! This page has been up for MANY years now. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 4/7/09 3:09 PM, "Chuck Norcutt" wrote: > This has the wrong lens mount (unless, like someone I know, you have a > Minolta 58mm f/1.2) but isn't this the sort of thing we were hoping to > see from Olympus a number of years ago? Very interesting. > > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:16:53 2009 Received: (qmail 24970 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:16:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:16:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B62DE18302 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34723E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41F719EF54 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218A01CD48A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@m93.myzen.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.155.39.109] (helo=[192.168.1.64]) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LrGmZ-0004RE-Pb for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:16:27 +0000 Message-ID: <49DBA68C.5050101@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:16:28 +0100 From: Martyn Smoothy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DB8C61.4010002@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49DB8C61.4010002@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [217.155.39.109] Subject: Re: [OM] GeeBee X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:16:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dba6a5141391073733319 Well, http://www.geebeephoto.com/ is up & running at the moment... & a new 2009 image...... Donald wrote: > I just had a weird experience; clicked a link by mistake and found > myself at Graham's site. > > I thought it was down? Any more news? > > The photos are as great as ever... > > D. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:20:08 2009 Received: (qmail 7154 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:20:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:20:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABB8E182FD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D81E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC67E1CD490 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:19:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D344B1CD48E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.86]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31292 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Apr 2009 19:19:57 -0000 Message-ID: <676734.31260.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: e_dyrfwVM1mOT.bIR7EPpof8xj3AtsMs4gVnT4KU4X39TlZ3_isbmT7trJyOIXmSUVAxy7ULa6PaHiJY4YwgVGFT97jWVxorKKP9lKddrgekkENC_I0UFbfotr5QzbRKwNweQonu2V0RSpyu7mwQLQqp4cOFbUSxn5LC5nW7K1c4DfVE3IzEffIReR5NGXcKyd16ZAf.L9cVm9vcwV23dsO04T8b_Jgt.fW5LruB8Se39fjlhEZ_X3Z64t0PvXBY61m4hhlFIyJNDeMvuV0GWAqH6K7FrvGGzkGIsxcBW3SeGl37mQYwwBdHKOUiHINoCWYWsUhXHXhgDasCFWRBZuDor95d Received: from [86.165.219.198] by web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:19:57 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:19:57 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] GeeBee X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:20:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dba768144921234514069 Very good news. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK ............................................................................ --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > From: Martyn Smoothy > Subject: Re: [OM] GeeBee > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 8:16 PM > Well, http://www.geebeephoto.com/ is up & running at the > moment... & a > new 2009 image...... > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:37:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13181 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C65E182F5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058CFE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E323D34AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E75634AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6576 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 19:36:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:37:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbab61118391234514069 Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has > completely deteriorated. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hermanson" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > >> In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a >> beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of >> ball bearing ammunition. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:46:04 2009 Received: (qmail 6618 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:46:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F55FE18303 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E498E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD4534AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF9834AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n37JjtEq031299 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:45:57 GMT Message-ID: <14B042D11A6E4720B1EC605D77230436@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net><6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> <49DBAB5A.4050108@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:46:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:46:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbad7c4657350615338 Thanks, Chuck. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > > Chuck Norcutt > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has >> completely deteriorated. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hermanson" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >> >> >>> In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a >>> beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of >>> ball bearing ammunition. >>> ___________________________________ >>> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >>> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >>> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >>> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >>> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:47:17 2009 Received: (qmail 32226 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:47:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3CEE182E7 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C1AE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C9F19EF9E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EAD19EF88 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13787 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 19:47:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 19:47:09 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBADBC.4060404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:47:08 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> <5F027D200FCA4A18A914B5B66EEA5C16@jimnichols> <9e908c1f0904070816l17b60512lee42d44a314230ff@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904070816l17b60512lee42d44a314230ff@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:47:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbadc422151993019900 He (and you) were lucky that it didn't pierce his clothes and skin. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Jim Nichols wrote: >> When I was a kid, we made slingshots using strips of automobile innertube >> which, at the time, was real rubber. I never had one of those break. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA > > I had one of those and I got pretty accurate with it. I shot my older > brother with a B-B in the back as he stood about 50 yards away from me > across a field. He was so impressed he didn't beat me up. > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 21:54:02 2009 Received: (qmail 28752 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 19:54:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 19:54:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E78AE182EB for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E0AE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4911CD486 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:53:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C0D1CD490 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17639 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 19:53:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 19:53:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBAF52.4030500@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:53:54 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 21:54:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbaf5a315091023412894 Note that what we're discussing here is "normal" DOF which is suitable for an 8x10 print. For a smaller print like a 4x5 DOF will extend from about 4 feet rather than 6. Web images even closer, about 2 feet. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> And you are right, it's pretty fuzzy. Shot at f7.1, 14 mm on a 2/3" >> sensor camera, it should have considerable DOF. Dr. D&D probably knows >> how much - and also that resolution is probably diffraction limited @ f7.1 >> > > > On my A1, diffraction is not an issue at all at F7.1. Hyperfocal for a 2/3" > sensor at 14mm and F7.1 is approximately 2m to infinity. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 22:14:05 2009 Received: (qmail 8847 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 20:14:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 20:14:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4D1E182FC for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DAAE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822981CD496 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B841CD48C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31238 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2009 20:13:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 20:13:59 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:13:58 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 22:14:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbb40d59891035110158 No flash required Dr. Flash -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 23:10:22 2009 Received: (qmail 18066 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 21:10:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:10:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C38FE182E5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81969E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3B4361000C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:10:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0F934AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:10:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31373 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 21:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.169.177) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 21:10:13 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBC12F.3080607@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:10:07 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com><49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> <97B7D1542B474396BD58E4EE18D23AF1@PaulPC> In-Reply-To: <97B7D1542B474396BD58E4EE18D23AF1@PaulPC> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 23:10:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbc13e157171035110158 Paul Laughlin wrote: > There were Denny's for quite some time before Sambo's closed. In Oklahoma City, at least. I used to frequent both. > That's my recollection here, as well. The only Sambo's I was aware of locally is now a Buttercup, but I think it may have been some other non-Denny's name in between. Wikipedia and other sources seem to agree that there was no connection between the two chains. Denny's does try to standardize and control operations, but sometimes things go beyond their control. I have no idea what the current situations is, but years ago, the one in Emeryville had become in part a popular place for commercial assignations. Attractive, slightly suggestively, but pretty well dressed women would hang around at the counter drinking coffee and ordering small things. Men would sit down next to them and discuss arrangements, then the 'couples' would often leave together. Quite fun to watch, at least as long as our son was young enough that he had no idea what was going on right in front of us. It was a good location and quite busy with legitimate trade, too. I suppose the fact that it was so busy helped camouflage the other activity. Certainly the most entertaining Denny's I'd ever been to. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 23:26:13 2009 Received: (qmail 11932 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 21:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:26:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3BE1830C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597DBE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4490D1CD48C for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660D21CD48A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5287 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 21:25:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:25:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DB7578.1030809@chucknorcutt.com> References: <380-2200942713313504@earthlink.net> <49DB7578.1030809@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <73F1A50F-7BE5-4C30-9BF1-CCC571A59AF1@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:26:02 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 23:26:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbc4f5295831257536491 Indeed not - burlesque has made a comeback. It's almost a cult with some gels who are into all that retro stuff. I last saw pasties in a performance at the launch of a literary magazine! Hilarious. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/04/2009, at 1:47 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > That type of pasties is probably extinct everywhere in the US. > Certainly not to be seen in Vegas. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 23:34:26 2009 Received: (qmail 28214 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 21:34:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:34:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183D6E181D6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6B3E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0934AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:34:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE56B3610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6004 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 21:34:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:34:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <464045.96347.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <464045.96347.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:34:17 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 23:34:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbc6e261789347015869 http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/32679158 Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/04/2009, at 3:47 AM, JOHN DUGGAN wrote: > > Bill, you remind me of a delicacy from my youth. Spotted dick (with > or without proper custard for tea) But the best bit is having the > left over slices for breakfast fried and gently browned in butter > AHHHH. ;-0 > Regards > John Duggan, > Wales, UK > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 23:40:49 2009 Received: (qmail 30593 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 21:40:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:40:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA20E18318 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD32E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCEF34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE9734AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m12.mail.aol.com (imo-m12.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.100]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d51.46d3d7aa (37046) for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB034-5bc149dbc8431cb; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:40:25 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MY17 (webmail-my17.sim.aol.com [64.12.109.75]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA038-5bc149dbc8431cb; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:40:19 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:40:19 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 75.147.3.221 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42402-STANDARD Received: from 75.147.3.221 by WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com (64.12.109.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:40:19 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 23:40:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbc861165662046811720 G9 hack has a hyperfocal distance display option. :-) I have it always on as I don't have the luxory of traveling with Dr. Focus or Dr. Diffraction. Sweet spot of G9/10 is F4 or therebouts. Distance markers on the OM lenses seem about right with the one stop insurance policy per AG practice. Mike I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor at 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and most certainly by f/5.6. Incidentally, your link to the modified photo didn't work. Drs. D&D -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Apr 7 23:46:50 2009 Received: (qmail 23562 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 21:46:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:46:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5471EE18309 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F40E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407E334AC029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:46:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B442B34AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:46:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8095 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 21:46:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 21:46:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <57A8CD98-AF70-4458-A768-EE3F632E0606@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:46:40 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Wrong lens mount but... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Apr 7 23:46:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbc9ca227262070262475 Yup, got me in once upon a time. I even asked John about it (of the John and Mei at the bottom) He's a local Seagull dealer. I don't deal with him as he charges too much, and messed up a repair on my 5D. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/04/2009, at 5:16 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: > If you click the link at the bottom of the page you go to a page > that says > APRIL FOOLS! > > This page has been up for MANY years now. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-3962 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 4/7/09 3:09 PM, "Chuck Norcutt" > wrote: > >> This has the wrong lens mount (unless, like someone I know, you >> have a >> Minolta 58mm f/1.2) but isn't this the sort of thing we were >> hoping to >> see from Olympus a number of years ago? Very interesting. >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:15:52 2009 Received: (qmail 10889 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:15:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F125E182E2 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E381E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266D1CD493 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC00A1CD48E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:15:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9133 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 22:15:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.206.179) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 22:15:44 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:15:41 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:15:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd09877491035110158 Sorry my link went wonky. That's happened a couple of times long ago. Let's try again. I KNEW I could count on Drs D&D to deliver a detailed technical treatise - that would have done no good to know at the time. :-( The problems are: First, these were just a few casual shots I took while doing more focused (ha, ha) shooting with the 5D. A couple are to get close to things I couldn't with the lenses I then had and carried with me for the 5D. Nowadays, the 90/2.8 macro is always in the now larger fanny pack I carry with the 5D. The other shots were just snaps. The second problem is with the F10 itself. It has no manual control functions. Yes, it has a "Manual" setting, but all that does is allow one to set EV compensation, metering mode, and WB. Exposure and AF are entirely automatic. I learned to adjust exposure by using spot metering to get it right on the LCD, then reframe and shoot. In this case, I could probably have increased the aperture by lowering the ISO, although focus point with such a scene would have still be largely pot luck. But if I were that interested, I'd have pulled out the 5D. I've since replaced the F10 with the F30 when it became available, which gives aperture and shutter priority modes and pretty complete manual control. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > The F10 actually has a 1/1.7" sensor which is a bit smaller than a 2/3" sensor. Hey! I knew that. Late night brain fart. > > > I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor at 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and most certainly by f/5.6. > I wouldn't be surprised. Perhaps I should have left it in fuller auto, and it might have picked a lower ISO and wider aperture - or not. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:17:56 2009 Received: (qmail 32589 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:17:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:17:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1440E182ED for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2550E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B46134AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:17:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37BD34AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHR00FQ74LOP4N0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:17:48 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-79-209.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.79.209]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:17:46 -0300 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:17:48 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8UAH9t20kYik/R/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmtDIJj3EHgjARgTMG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,339,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="500229776" References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> <49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:17:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd114235631823421471 My wife and I got that treatment in a Montreal restaurant in late winter 1998 when we flew in from the west coast en route to our daughter's wedding in New Brunswick. We were told later that restaurant staff could pick out westerners from a mile away and well before they opened their mouths. Obviously, the FBI agents had to much time on their hands .............. I thought that the likes of Agent Gibbs and co ate on the fly ! jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hermanson" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Denny's chain wide policy used to be: seat black people in a back > corner, then ignore them, then if an order is taken make them pay in > advance, make them wait longer than whites. This became a national > incident when they pulled it on a group of black FBI agents that came in > for lunch. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Doug wrote: >> On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, >>> what's a Denny's? >> >> Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd >> say >> average food at average price. -Doug >>> Wiliam >>> >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >>>> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>> >>>> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >>>> Peppermill. It is >>>> something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >>>> to a Denny's. >>>> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >>>> >>>> Bill Pearce >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >>>> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> >>>>> At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >>>>> For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >>>>> LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >>>>> first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >>>>> wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >>>>> photo opportinities to be found also. >>>>> >>>>> Wiliam >>>>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:29:18 2009 Received: (qmail 27384 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:29:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:29:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45877E1830B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BBEE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F6034AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:29:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5284D34AC02B for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:29:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17255 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 22:29:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.197.226) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 22:29:11 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBD3AA.3070007@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:28:58 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:29:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd3be186211234514069 Ken Norton wrote: > Am I the only one that sees the stupidity in "progress?" Not at all. It may just seem so, as you are the one complaining about it "out loud" all the time. :-) > My old Zuikos of very useful DoF marking all over them. Granted, my preference is to go 1-stop farther than the markings indicate, but nearly every lens has something to go by. No guessing, no cheat sheets. > > I realize I'm starting to sound like an old coot: "They don't make cameras like they used to". But for crying out loud, we call this an improvement? > I know you hate it when I explain why things have changed, but ... AF, particularly in it earlier incarnations, required short focal throw and very light focus touch to get speed and accuracy with relatively weak motors. With short throw, the amount of rotation of the focus ring is so small that there simply isn't room for a DOF "table". The lines and aperture markings would only be readable with a magnifying glass. So yes, it's a step backwards, but at least there is a technical reason for it. It's not, necessarily, or in all cases, intentional dumbing down. The Tamron 90/2.8 macro has very nice manual focusing with a ring that seems to have nice throw. It rotates about 270 deg. - but thats for infinity to 1:1. And they tried. There are DOF markings, but the space is so tight that they are only for f16 and f32 - essentially useless. They do at least give some qualitative idea how narrow the DOF is at higher magnifications. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:32:07 2009 Received: (qmail 26878 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:32:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:32:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C54E18305 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F01E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191CF1CD49A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:32:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922471CD497 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:32:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19132 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 22:32:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.197.226) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 22:32:00 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBD45D.3000108@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:31:57 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> <49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:32:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd467249545368819438 John Hudson wrote: > ... Obviously, the FBI agents had to much time on their hands .............. I thought that the likes of Agent Gibbs and co ate on the fly ! > It's a good thing Gibbs is fictional. He would come and get you for confusing him with FBI. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:37:37 2009 Received: (qmail 30295 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:37:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:37:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB7BE18302 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A73E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05AD1CD497 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:37:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13B1CD493 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:37:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22117 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 22:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:37:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd5b1152163675314703 Andrew Fildes wrote: > Indeed not - burlesque has made a comeback. It's almost a cult with some gels who are into all that retro stuff. > 1. Chuck referred specifically to the US of America, not any bunch of antipodeans. 2. Do you use "Burlesque" in the limited context of strip and peep shows, or the broader original meaning? Moose > ... > On 08/04/2009, at 1:47 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> That type of pasties is probably extinct everywhere in the US. Certainly not to be seen in Vegas. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:38:49 2009 Received: (qmail 9391 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:38:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:38:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9699E182FE for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CABCE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4C3610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:38:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB0134AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:38:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n37McegW013200 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:38:41 +1000 Message-Id: <200904072238.n37McegW013200@mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:38:40 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:38:40 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:38:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd5f921301470116606 It wouldn't require much computing power in a digital camera to provide this extra info on the LCD display - much more useful than Filters for ART (FART). ...Wayne > Ken Norton <> wrote: > > > > > As soon as I realized that I fired up the laptop > > and produced a little hyperfocal cheat sheet for 20 and 40mm that I > kept > > in my wallet. > > > > Am I the only one that sees the stupidity in "progress?" My old Zuikos > of > very useful DoF marking all over them. Granted, my preference is to go > 1-stop farther than the markings indicate, but nearly every lens has > something to go by. No guessing, no cheat sheets. > > I realize I'm starting to sound like an old coot: "They don't make > cameras > like they used to". But for crying out loud, we call this an > improvement? > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 00:47:47 2009 Received: (qmail 11782 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 22:47:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 22:47:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E637AE182E8 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896CFE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6B834AC02A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA60634AC02D for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27661 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 22:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.184.26) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 22:47:40 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBD808.1040804@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:47:36 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904072238.n37McegW013200@mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200904072238.n37McegW013200@mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 00:47:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbd813152751823421471 Wayne Harridge wrote: > It wouldn't require much computing power in a digital camera to provide this extra info on the LCD display Indeed not. As Mike just said, the CHDK add-on software for Canon Powershots finds enough processing power to do so - even on some pretty lowly cameras. > - much more useful than Filters for ART (FART). > Ah, Bob's motto turns around. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 01:21:41 2009 Received: (qmail 7296 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 23:21:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 23:21:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9134FE18301 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB42E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B7D34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE4C34AC029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32336 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2009 23:21:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 23:21:25 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DBD5A7.2000907@gmail.com> References: <380-2200942713313504@earthlink.net> <49DB7578.1030809@chucknorcutt.com> <73F1A50F-7BE5-4C30-9BF1-CCC571A59AF1@people.net.au> <49DBD5A7.2000907@gmail.com> Message-Id: <37AEA090-7351-4623-A9FB-6560238F78A7@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:21:29 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 01:21:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbe00580989347015869 http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/111065193 Not a particulary attractive example but it was a comedy routine. And very funny. Or here - http://www.pbase.com/afildes/clare And the leader of the style - http://www.dita.net/top.php Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 08/04/2009, at 8:37 AM, Moose wrote: > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Indeed not - burlesque has made a comeback. It's almost a cult >> with some gels who are into all that retro stuff. >> > > 1. Chuck referred specifically to the US of America, not any bunch of > antipodeans. > > 2. Do you use "Burlesque" in the limited context of strip and peep > shows, or the broader original meaning? > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 01:29:04 2009 Received: (qmail 2886 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 23:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 23:29:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C18E18306 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CBEE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C781CD492 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:28:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057201CD487 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:28:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18942 invoked by uid 502); 7 Apr 2009 23:28:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.184.50) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Apr 2009 23:28:56 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBE1B4.8000104@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:28:52 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] More OT light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 01:29:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbe1c0116677927319144 It's raining today (Excellent!!) Saturday it was sunny and the light is still doing that late afternoon magic in our living room. As ti moves across the room with the sun's Northerly movement, it illuminates different things. The imperfections in the older glass and light through trees combined interesting ways with the texture of the wall finish. .. and the wood of the door. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 01:47:39 2009 Received: (qmail 29919 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 23:47:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 23:47:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C938E1830A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86FDE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBD734AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34D734AC029 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHR00F8I8R8OXR0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:47:32 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-79-209.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.79.209]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:47:31 -0300 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:47:33 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <7862C5357E0847CDABC5B2BC25A78736@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8UAJeC20kYik/R/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmw2oHg3QG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,340,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="500275515" References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> <49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> <49DBD45D.3000108@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 01:47:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbe61b161982070262475 ...............I doubt it. Didn't Gibbs' second ex or third ex wife marry Tobias, his best buddy in the FBI ?!:-) I thought the NCIS liked the FBI ............... aren't both outfits fictional anyway ! jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > John Hudson wrote: >> ... Obviously, the FBI agents had to much time on their hands >> .............. I thought that the likes of Agent Gibbs and co ate on the >> fly ! >> > > It's a good thing Gibbs is fictional. He would come and get you for > confusing him with FBI. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 01:50:04 2009 Received: (qmail 23785 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 23:50:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 23:50:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67399E182F4 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2830E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931653610002 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5553610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:49:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from invader.comkal.net (invader.comkal.net [192.168.1.41]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 08 Apr 2009 09:49:54 +1100 Message-ID: <300.401f0000a0e6db49.001@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:49:52 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <49DBA4F6.8020006@chucknorcutt.com> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.03 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.03.08.1277) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Wrong lens mount but... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 01:50:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbe6ac235731023412894 > If you click the link at the bottom of the page you go to a page that says > APRIL FOOLS! > > This page has been up for MANY years now. And I live 4 blocks from the shop :-) Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 01:59:10 2009 Received: (qmail 411 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 2009 23:59:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Apr 2009 23:59:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAC7E1830A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62A4E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6E1CD48A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:59:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132541CD487 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:59:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip06.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.84]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHR00FXI9AFP7R0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:59:03 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-79-209.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.79.209]) by ip06.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:58:41 -0300 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:58:42 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At8UABuG20kYik/R/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmw1YHg3QG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,340,1235966400"; d="scan'208";a="483082122" References: <53904.65328.qm@web86004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 01:59:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbe8ce94751869477228 Slice an 8 or 10 ounce filet mignon steak in half, insert a generous slice of the best English stilton, fold together again and barbeque until rare or slightly better than rare and then enjoy with lightly done freedom fries and your favourite veggies, serve up on a heated cast iron skillet and enjoy a bottle of fine red wine ................. and finish off with a generous tipple of 18 or 25 year Talisker. Leave the pots, pans and dirty dishes to the next morning . Stay late in bed. Encourage your SO to enjoy an early work out in his/ her favourite room in the house. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN DUGGAN" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? Put some tasty traditional Cheddar or Stilton cheese on a PASTY (according to my battered Oxford dictionary) ;-) bake until cheese melts, smother with Lea and Perins worcestershire sauce, and eat...delicious. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK .......................................................................... --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Andrew Fildes wrote: > From: Andrew Fildes > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 2:05 AM > I'd recommend HP sauce. > Traditional tastes were bland and modern paranoia means > that everyone > except the fast 'food' chains undersalt. > Some salt and pepper are necessary. > An empanada it is not. > Too much TexMex makes the palate unsubtle. :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > On 07/04/2009, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > The pastie I had was filled with diced beef and potato > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 02:25:32 2009 Received: (qmail 2354 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 00:25:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 00:25:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CECDE182E1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0A2E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F01F34AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:25:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7620B3610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10508 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 00:25:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] GeeBee X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 02:25:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbeefc56311234514069 The 2008 fog images are lovely. Chuck Norcutt JOHN DUGGAN wrote: > Very good news. > Regards > John Duggan, > Wales, UK > ............................................................................ > > --- On Tue, 7/4/09, Martyn Smoothy wrote: > >> From: Martyn Smoothy >> Subject: Re: [OM] GeeBee >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Date: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009, 8:16 PM >> Well, http://www.geebeephoto.com/ is up & running at the >> moment... & a >> new 2009 image...... > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 02:30:20 2009 Received: (qmail 7916 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 00:30:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 00:30:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE983E182F0 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B497E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708A91CD492 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:30:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBFC1CD486 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13534 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 00:30:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 00:30:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49DBF015.5010406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:30:13 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Wrong lens mount but... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 02:30:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbf01c63709347015869 Ha, ha. I was totally taken in. The problem is that it's really very plausible. Too bad it's not real. :-) Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > If you click the link at the bottom of the page you go to a page that says > APRIL FOOLS! > > This page has been up for MANY years now. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 02:40:19 2009 Received: (qmail 10845 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 00:40:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 00:40:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13956E181D6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E8DE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E027E1CD492 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E671CD486 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.191]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.86]) by mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n380eBZt003202 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:40:12 +1000 Message-Id: <200904080040.n380eBZt003202@mail10.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail06.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:40:11 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:40:11 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] More OT light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 02:40:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dbf27381721499373980 Very nice ! ...Wayne > Moose <> wrote: > > It's raining today (Excellent!!) Saturday it was sunny and the light is > still doing that late afternoon magic in our living room. As ti moves > across the room with the sun's Northerly movement, it illuminates > different things. > > The imperfections in the older glass and light through trees combined > interesting ways with the texture of the wall finish. > 90322&image=_MG_5616rotcr.jpg> > > .. and the wood of the door. > 90322&image=_MG_5615corcr2.jpg> > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:29:50 2009 Received: (qmail 16584 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:29:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:29:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A84E1830F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35BE16E0002 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6C51CD495 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076A81CD493 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18352 invoked by uid 502); 8 Apr 2009 02:29:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.199.192) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 02:29:40 -0000 Message-ID: <49DC0C0B.9050608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:29:31 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DADF99.5010801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] [IMG] Timewasting (Was Re: Confession ) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:29:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc0c1e256471257536491 Tom Fenwick wrote: > .... > > I am aware of the distortion as well. One day I will get PT Lens and sort it out. You make it sound like a project. I suppose nobody believes how quick and easy it is to use in practice. > It was actually the 35/2 - sometimes it shows, and other times looks pretty straight. Highly dependent on subject. PTLens doesn't have a profile for the 35/2. The one for 21/3.5 is actually quite good for 35/2. Better, for example than the Zeiss 35/2, which leaves a slight wave. While PTLens can read EXIF to set things automagically, it also has options to let you choose your own. Useful both for MF lenses and experimenting with other lenses for one not on the list. For some time, I was using the Canon 28-300 mm profile on shots from my Tamron 28-300 mm. I always intended to get around to taking the test shots, but the Canon profile worked so well I didn't have a lot of incentive. (Similar design choices by two teams, apparently.) With the last update I downloaded, my lens has appeared. Sometimes procrastination does pay. :-) You may take simple calibration shots according to instructions on the site and he will create new profiles for your lenses. He says there that he isn't in the business of profiling film lenses, too big a project. But he has been responsive in adding profiles for old MF lenses used on FF DSLRs. > Yesterday's shots were all at f11 hyperfocal-ish setting. Is distortion aperture-dependent? > I'm pretty sure not. > Have another to look at: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/image/111015589 > It's obvious if you look, but only in the way the sides of the ad display bulge slightly outward. The full image width lines of the bus are a sort of worst case. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:30:24 2009 Received: (qmail 18122 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:30:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F303E182F7 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFEF16E0002 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9ED1CD495 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34CA1CD493 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2673 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 02:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 02:29:59 -0000 Message-ID: <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:29:58 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:30:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc0c4029711073733319 An interesting hack. Some canon SLR lenses do feedback focusing distance to the camera but it's only used for flash exposure calculation. The hyperfocal distance display is a cool idea and overcomes the lens marking problem for zooms. No reason why a firmware hack on the DSLR's couldn't do the same. Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > G9 hack has a hyperfocal distance display option. :-) I have it always > on as I don't have the luxory of traveling with Dr. Focus or Dr. > Diffraction. Sweet spot of G9/10 is F4 or therebouts. Distance markers > on the OM lenses seem about right with the one stop insurance policy > per AG practice. > Mike > > > > I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor > at > 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and > most > certainly by f/5.6. > > Incidentally, your link to the modified photo didn't work. > > Drs. D&D -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:33:07 2009 Received: (qmail 1922 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:33:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A893CE18304 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD18E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C715634AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D32A34AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4479 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 02:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 02:33:00 -0000 Message-ID: <49DC0CDB.9010007@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:32:59 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:33:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc0ce332631234514069 Definitely looks better but you're not with the real program yet. All of this automation stuff is to help you out and simplify your life. It's all part of the Borg plot for assimilation. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Sorry my link went wonky. That's happened a couple of times long ago. > Let's try again. > > > I KNEW I could count on Drs D&D to deliver a detailed technical treatise > - that would have done no good to know at the time. :-( > > The problems are: First, these were just a few casual shots I took while > doing more focused (ha, ha) shooting with the 5D. A couple are to get > close to things I couldn't with the lenses I then had and carried with > me for the 5D. Nowadays, the 90/2.8 macro is always in the now larger > fanny pack I carry with the 5D. The other shots were just snaps. > > The second problem is with the F10 itself. It has no manual control > functions. Yes, it has a "Manual" setting, but all that does is allow > one to set EV compensation, metering mode, and WB. Exposure and AF are > entirely automatic. I learned to adjust exposure by using spot metering > to get it right on the LCD, then reframe and shoot. In this case, I > could probably have increased the aperture by lowering the ISO, although > focus point with such a scene would have still be largely pot luck. But > if I were that interested, I'd have pulled out the 5D. > > I've since replaced the F10 with the F30 when it became available, which > gives aperture and shutter priority modes and pretty complete manual > control. > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> The F10 actually has a 1/1.7" sensor which is a bit smaller than a 2/3" sensor. > > Hey! I knew that. Late night brain fart. > >> >> >> I haven't done any precise calculations but, for the small F10 sensor at 6MP I'd guess that you're already diffraction limited above f/4 and most certainly by f/5.6. >> > > I wouldn't be surprised. Perhaps I should have left it in fuller auto, > and it might have picked a lower ISO and wider aperture - or not. :-) > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:36:34 2009 Received: (qmail 27183 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:36:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:36:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691FAE182E9 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D68CE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF481CD495 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B851CD486 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9052E6D469 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zV53qV5l-oaD for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59422E6D451 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <99C83B6D-7028-458A-B1AC-18C8982F5AA8@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:36:19 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:36:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc0db2150811529615919 > From: John Hermanson > > The unemployment rate does not count people whose compensation has run > out and have stopped looking for work. Real rate could be closer to > 15%. According to no less than MSN Money: http://tinyurl.com/chh7cx :::: There's a difference between having an open mind and letting the wind blow through your ears! :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:38:01 2009 Received: (qmail 8276 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:38:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:38:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117D2E18305 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82A5E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7F63610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:37:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF7734AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:37:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6660 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 02:37:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 02:37:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49DC0E03.7040804@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:37:55 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DBE1B4.8000104@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49DBE1B4.8000104@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090407-0, 04/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] More OT light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:38:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc0e098471257536491 There is a Cyclops bear living in your door. But don't worry. He doesn't look very ferocious and may even depart with his friend the sun. :-) Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > It's raining today (Excellent!!) Saturday it was sunny and the light is > still doing that late afternoon magic in our living room. As ti moves > across the room with the sun's Northerly movement, it illuminates > different things. > > The imperfections in the older glass and light through trees combined > interesting ways with the texture of the wall finish. > > > .. and the wood of the door. > > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:43:55 2009 Received: (qmail 12034 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:43:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:43:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374C9E182F5 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDD8E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826D33610014 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFFD3610001 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1433916waf.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.120.8 with SMTP id s8mr454899wac.11.1239158626214; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:43:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DC0E03.7040804@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DBE1B4.8000104@gmail.com> <49DC0E03.7040804@chucknorcutt.com> From: Marc Lawrence Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:43:31 +1000 Message-ID: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] More OT light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:43:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc0f6b114471946193717 2009/4/8 Chuck Norcutt : > There is a Cyclops bear living in your door. =A0But don't worry. =A0He > doesn't look very ferocious and may even depart with his friend the sun. = :-) He appears to need to go do wee-wees. Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:52:08 2009 Received: (qmail 6154 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:52:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:52:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE4CE182E4 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E935BE24131 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39AE19F13E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A1519F11A for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so2522038fxm.14 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:51:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.100.70 with SMTP id x6mr673168bkn.140.1239159118504; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:51:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DC0CDB.9010007@chucknorcutt.com> References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> <49DC0CDB.9010007@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:51:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 10ef993f3047333e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:52:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc1158125241499373980 I am reminded that Canon implemented a rather nice DoF function early on in the EOS to compensate for the lens designs not supporting DoF scales. As implemented, you take a focus reading for the close object and another for the far object and the camera calculates the required aperture and mid-point focus point to achieve sharpness at both points. I used this a bit back in the early days of the EOS and was impressed with how well it worked. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 04:59:42 2009 Received: (qmail 6808 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 02:59:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 02:59:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671EAE182F1 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BB9E2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E1234AC027 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9B734AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.242]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so2708628rvf.50 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:59:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.59.1 with SMTP id h1mr453151waa.87.1239159575294; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:59:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> From: Marc Lawrence Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:59:20 +1000 Message-ID: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 04:59:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc131e77297350615338 2009/4/8 Chuck Norcutt : > An interesting hack. =A0Some canon SLR lenses do feedback focusing > distance to the camera but it's only used for flash exposure > calculation. =A0The hyperfocal distance display is a cool idea and > overcomes the lens marking problem for zooms. =A0No reason why a firmware > hack on the DSLR's couldn't do the same. Some Canon (D)SLR cameras used to/still do(?) have either a DEP mode or an A-DEP mode. The A-DEP mode (on my 10D) looked at the reading from the focus points available, picked the one with the closest item in the scene under it, the one with the farthest item in the scene under it (which could also be "infinity") and then selected an aperture and focus distance that captured those two in focus. The DEP mode. from memory, was a three-step process (I had it on my 50E/Elan IIE). You first pressed the shutter-release to focus on your near-subject, then again for your far subject, and then a third time to take the photo (when it would do as above - select focus distance and aperture to capture those two points in focus). If I remember rightly, it tried to just capture those two focal points in focus, so that if you selected two points not too far (back to front) apart, it would open the aperture as far as it could (to actually minimise DoF to those two points, and blur the rest as far as it could. I think the latter option is on the 5D, but is not on the 5D MkII. Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 05:21:02 2009 Received: (qmail 2788 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 03:21:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 03:21:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87103E182FF for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78BCE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D118B34AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F3034AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (doug9345@localnet.com whitelisted) Received: from extsmtp3.localnet.com (extsmtp3.localnet.com [207.251.201.55]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14416 invoked by uid 1011); 8 Apr 2009 03:20:50 -0000 Received: from 10.30.204.254 by bolster (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.23st (spamassassin: 3.1.7-deb. perlscan: 1.23st. 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 05:21:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc181e248222046811720 On Tuesday, April 07, 2009 14:55, Timpe, Jim wrote: > Yes, Denny's and Sambo's co-existed up here for some time as well. > The last Sambo's that I was aware of (down in Oregon) became something > else altogether, not a Denny's. > Jim > -- I think in upstate NY they became 4 seasons before Denny's bought them. Denny's also bought the Perkins in this state. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 05:31:19 2009 Received: (qmail 16915 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 03:31:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 03:31:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAACE1817F for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E35216E0002 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2611F34AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:31:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A459934AC01E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:31:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12907 invoked by uid 502); 8 Apr 2009 03:31:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.199.192) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 03:31:11 -0000 Message-ID: <49DC1A7B.6030402@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:31:07 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 05:31:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc1a87153491023412894 Marc Lawrence wrote: > Some Canon (D)SLR cameras used to/still do(?) have either a DEP mode or an A-DEP mode. The A-DEP mode (on my 10D) looked at the reading from the focus points available, picked the one with the closest item in the scene under it, the one with the farthest item in the scene under it (which could also be "infinity") and then selected an aperture and focus distance that captured those two in focus. > > ... > I think the latter option is on the 5D, but is not on the 5D MkII. > The 300D has A-DEP, although I've never tried it. The 5D has nothing like that, unless the name has changed. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 05:45:19 2009 Received: (qmail 25003 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 03:45:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 03:45:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3930DE182EB for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8260AE2412E for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99E234AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:45:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE7034AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:45:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dreaded@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cbk81b00117UAYkA8rlEfg; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:45:14 +0000 Received: from SpongeBob ([24.4.5.181]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id crlD1b00V3uLCT48ZrlEdw; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:45:14 +0000 From: "Jay Drew" To: "Olympus" Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:45:05 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c9b7fc$6d7a4120$6400a8c0@SpongeBob> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 05:45:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc1dcf123171234514069 >Denny's does try to standardize and control operations, but sometimes things go >beyond their control. I have no idea what the current situations is, but years >ago, the one in Emeryville had become in part a popular place for commercial >assignations. Attractive, slightly suggestively, but pretty well dressed women >would hang around at the counter drinking coffee and ordering small things. Men >would sit down next to them and discuss arrangements, then the 'couples' would >often leave together. > >Quite fun to watch, at least as long as our son was young enough that he had no >idea what was going on right in front of us. It was a good location and quite >busy with legitimate trade, too. I suppose the fact that it was so busy helped >camouflage the other activity. Certainly the most entertaining Denny's I'd ever >been to. > >Moose Brings a whole new meaning to Grand Slam. Jay -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 06:09:13 2009 Received: (qmail 17120 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 04:09:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 04:09:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA95E182D0 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5178CE24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3B034AC025 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED08034AC024 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so2110253rvf.6 for ; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:09:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.180.1 with SMTP id c1mr473025waf.192.1239163748151; Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:09:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DC1A7B.6030402@gmail.com> References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> <49DC1A7B.6030402@gmail.com> From: Marc Lawrence Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:08:53 +1000 Message-ID: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 06:09:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc236927921838542571 2009/4/8 Moose : > The 300D has A-DEP, although I've never tried it. The 5D has nothing > like that, unless the name has changed. No, having now checked properly, you are, unsurprisingly, :) correct. I think I may have seen a reference to the EOS 5, and appended a "D" in my mind. I have DEP on my 50E, and A-DEP on my 10D, but I can't say I've ever used them. Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 07:12:19 2009 Received: (qmail 2709 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 05:12:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 05:12:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D207E18309 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255B5E24130 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035951CD495 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:12:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BCA1CD486 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:12:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 196.red-83-52-20.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.20.196]:53105 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LrQ52-0004PQ-Iz (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:12:09 +0000 Message-Id: <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:12:08 +0200 References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 07:12:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc3233271149117217770 Chuck, your link takes me to some kind of login/registration page. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > No flash required > > > > Dr. Flash > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 10:52:46 2009 Received: (qmail 21505 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 08:52:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 08:52:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2E0E182D4 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B9EE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345619DDAA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874AD19DDA1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:52:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11933 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 08:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 08:52:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:52:34 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Unleaning Pizza X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 10:52:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc65de179771342116753 Got bored so I fixed it. Don't know how to explain the Italian Tai Chi in the foreground but. http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/111080695 Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 10:55:25 2009 Received: (qmail 12847 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 08:55:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 08:55:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD1CE182CC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9E6E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF90734AC024 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:55:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9795E34AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:55:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.249]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so2208438rvf.6 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:55:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.18.15 with SMTP id v15mr433987rvi.197.1239180918987; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:55:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49da8f97.06d7720a.66ca.2a3f@mx.google.com> References: <60f983080904050108w671c632cib4914cf79e453e58@mail.gmail.com> <49d918b2.6105be0a.6f5b.ffff86a8@mx.google.com> <60f983080904060830o122903b1g8843c7a9d804285c@mail.gmail.com> <49da8f97.06d7720a.66ca.2a3f@mx.google.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:55:18 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 22321f4194dbfebc Message-ID: <60f983080904080155v7411779tf634083636bc62db@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Any comment for Nikon 75mm F4 CP-2 Enlarger Lens X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 10:55:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc667d319151823421471 I'm very lucky that I found an used Rodenstock Rodagon 80mm F4 at B&H with 90% new & the price is half of a new one last night (HKT). I placed the order immediately & B&H advise me the shipment is already made today. I think I'll receive the enlarging lens after Easter holidays. Hope the condition of the lens is same as description by B&H. Thank you very everyone who gave me advice for the enlarging lens again :-) --- Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 12:00:58 2009 Received: (qmail 21827 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 10:00:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 10:00:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4DDE18307 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FC5E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE71361000C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7779A3610002 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:00:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp id 1LrUaO-00080M-7Y for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:00:48 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:00:25 +0200 Message-ID: <73tot41if42191vpqnsk2tcev1f8385jf5@4ax.com> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Unleaning Pizza X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 12:00:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc75da89602336821329 LOL. This Tai Chi thing demonstrates you didn't make the orginal picture, am I right? All of those people are subjects of their own photographers, pretending to 'fix it' in their own way. I have climbed the Pisa Tower about 20 years ago, when it was still permitted. It was rather dangerous, because it was raining, all stone was slippery and the platforms were crowded. Nowhere ropes or bars to keep you from stepping off... Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:52:34 +1000, Andrew Fildes wrote: >Got bored so I fixed it. Don't know how to explain the Italian Tai >Chi in the foreground but. >http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/111080695 >Andrew Fildes >afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 12:32:16 2009 Received: (qmail 3547 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 10:32:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 10:32:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4D0E182E3 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E3BE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E782119DFFC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:32:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A52619DFEE for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:32:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30238 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 10:32:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 10:32:02 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <73tot41if42191vpqnsk2tcev1f8385jf5@4ax.com> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> <73tot41if42191vpqnsk2tcev1f8385jf5@4ax.com> Message-Id: <7286A0CF-1B9F-4EC3-BE1C-FE2D96DF0A13@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:32:07 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Unleaning Pizza X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 12:32:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc7d30250911869477228 I can top that (as usual) - in my late teenage years, I was one of a group of seven infidels who were escorted to the city limits of Pisa at 2am and told not to return. They caught us sleeping in our bags under the leaning side of the tower. They may not have noticed if Baz hadn't chosen to take an early hours leak in the nearby fountain... Andrew Fildes (risk taker). afildes@people.net.au On 08/04/2009, at 8:00 PM, Frank van Lindert wrote: > I have climbed the Pisa Tower about 20 years ago, when it was still > permitted. It was rather dangerous, because it was raining, all stone > was slippery and the platforms were crowded. Nowhere ropes or bars to > keep you from stepping off... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 12:41:13 2009 Received: (qmail 11313 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 10:41:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 10:41:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98F2E182D0 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE3DE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537B034AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:41:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B5C3610012 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from the.earth.li (the.earth.li [217.147.81.2]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 03:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paddy by the.earth.li with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LrVDO-0006JO-5K for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:41:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:41:06 +0100 From: Patrick Moore To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Message-ID: <20090408104105.GF15069@the.earth.li> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: [OM] Colour Space, a cautionary tale. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 12:41:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc7f49182771035110158 Hi All, I was sitting at the computer at the weekend, looking at the photos I'd just developed in Lightroom. I was happy with the results. I uploaded them to my (rather disfunctional) website and thought they looked rather dull and uninteresting in comparison. Initially I thought it was the gallery software I was using; perhaps something was going wrong in the conversion. Swapping between the uploaded copy and the local copy, I saw the uploaded one was significantly less vibrant, interesting and frankly, not how it looked in the local copy. Originall I was looking at it in Firefox, so switched to Safari and noticed that it seemed fine there. *click* went the switch in my head, and I remembered about colour profiles. Firefox was using it's internal profile, not that embedded in the image. Firefox 3 can use embedded profiles, it just chooses not to by default. My bad. I tuned on using embedded profiles, and it all just worked. Everything looked as I wanted. I went back to Lightroom, realised I had exported as AdobeRGB rather than sRGB. I've now fixed this and subsequent exports should be fine. So yes. For what it's worth, this was the set that prompted me to look into this, though previous ones were affected too. http://the.earth.li/~paddy/cgi-bin/range.pl?dir=april_2009_assorted_blend p. -- patrick-moore--[ He's YOUR God, they're YOUR rules, YOU burn in hell! ] -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 13:42:35 2009 Received: (qmail 25985 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 11:42:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 11:42:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DA7E182EA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A981E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C7219E23B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:42:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A943319E22C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:42:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-70-207.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.70.207]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n38BgOVP014089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:42:25 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:42:20 +1000 Message-ID: <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acm4J2Lxwmfpu/SSTdmJAnUHloCicAAF56Kg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Unleaning Pizza X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 13:42:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc8dab10971529615919 Much better ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Fildes [] > Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2009 6:53 PM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] Unleaning Pizza > > Got bored so I fixed it. Don't know how to explain the Italian Tai > Chi in the foreground but. > http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/111080695 > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 13:59:00 2009 Received: (qmail 25975 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 11:58:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 11:58:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38D6E182DC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCC3E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E9E34AC029 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:58:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE36734AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:58:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.251]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHS00FR86M0C0WP@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:58:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DC9179.4090306@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:58:49 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> In-reply-to: <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 13:59:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc9184265443675314703 My parents wisely forbid it. It wasn't a toy but a "you'll put someones eye out" device. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Jim Nichols wrote: > Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has > completely deteriorated. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hermanson" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > >> In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a >> beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of >> ball bearing ammunition. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Paul Laughlin wrote: >>> A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The first >>> night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog "using" the >>> yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the dog, >>> which >>> immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had possibly >>> killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up and ran >>> off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL >>> Paul in Portland OR >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Fildes" >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:16 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >>> >>> >>>> How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? >>>> Neat trick tho' - but would probably offend water use restrictions >>>> around here. >>>> Now I had a friend who hated cats and used a sporting slingshot >>>> (catapult) with 12mm steel ball bearings on any who entered his >>>> garden - the cats didn't 'not come back' - they never actually left. >>>> Like a rifle without the noise - he was deadly accurate. >>>> But I suppose that's a bit too extreme for most of you. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 13:59:33 2009 Received: (qmail 7507 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 11:59:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 11:59:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A351E182E5 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC374E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF134AC029 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:59:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603EB34AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:59:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 04:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.251]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHS007VY6MTX381@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:59:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DC9196.70501@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:59:18 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200904061407.01147.doug9345@localnet.com> <49DB4EB0.8040004@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 13:59:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc91a556862046811720 THAT I did not know. ouch. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Sue Pearce wrote: > Of course, what can you expect? The chain was formerly named "Sambo's" and > was forced to change to Denny's. Probably after an old plantation owner. > > BIll Pearce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hermanson" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > > >> Denny's chain wide policy used to be: seat black people in a back >> corner, then ignore them, then if an order is taken make them pay in >> advance, make them wait longer than whites. This became a national >> incident when they pulled it on a group of black FBI agents that came in >> for lunch. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Doug wrote: >>> On Monday, April 06, 2009 13:59, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: >>>> Hi Bill, >>>> >>>> Sound like a place to remember when there. Help me on the way though, >>>> what's a Denny's? >>> Chain restraunt that's usually open 24 hours per day 7 days per week. I'd >>> say >>> average food at average price. -Doug >>>> Wiliam >>>> >>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>> Van: Sue Pearce [mailto:bs.pearce@cox.net] >>>>> Verzonden: maandag 6 april 2009 1:04 >>>>> Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion >>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you insist on going tho LV, in the evening visit the >>>>> Peppermill. It is >>>>> something like a cocktail lounge from the sixties connected >>>>> to a Denny's. >>>>> Completely bizzare and the last old vegas thing you can see. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Pearce >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" >>>>> To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:07 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> At least one night in LV is standard for the round trip we planned. >>>>>> For the standard trip we would fly directly from the Netherlands to >>>>>> LV. Everywhere in the US and Canada when you want to rent a RV the >>>>>> first night in a hotel is mandatory. I am sure there is lots of >>>>>> wastefulness, but I thinkt that at night there are some fantastic >>>>>> photo opportinities to be found also. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wiliam >>>>>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 > 06:22:00 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 14:05:26 2009 Received: (qmail 3284 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 12:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 12:05:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160B1E182F4 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22519E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E5434AC02B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:05:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48E534AC02A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:05:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 05:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16084 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 12:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 12:05:11 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> Message-Id: <3F395560-B34B-42B7-96B4-3AB65E788B42@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:05:16 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Hobbies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 14:05:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dc93066109347015869 I've come to the conclusion that I've discovered perhaps the best possible hobby. Galleries from the last week. No Oly gear used (sorry). Think of it as my PAW gallery. :-) (nudity warning). Comments welcome - keep them nice! I like these gels. And yes, they liked the images! (Especially Rose). http://www.pbase.com/afildes/tita http://www.pbase.com/afildes/rose Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 15:15:34 2009 Received: (qmail 5025 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 13:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 13:15:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523F0E182F7 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E158BE2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C246319E43E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:15:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB0519E4A2 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardis.comkal.net (tardis.comkal.net [192.168.1.40]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.78) for ; 08 Apr 2009 23:15:23 +1100 Message-ID: <300.a03e0d0065a3dc49.005@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:15:17 +1000 (AET) In-Reply-To: <3F395560-B34B-42B7-96B4-3AB65E788B42@people.net.au> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> <3F395560-B34B-42B7-96B4-3AB65E788B42@people.net.au> Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.03 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.03.08.1277) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Hobbies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 15:15:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dca376324691023412894 Hi Andrew, > I've come to the conclusion that I've discovered perhaps the best > possible hobby. Glad to see you have the same hobby :-) I dont even ask my subjects if they would consider publishing on the internet. Maybe I should, at least for the more modest ones. Most of mine involve leather and/or latex, some lace, and the rest, well, nothing, though personally I think women look best with something on, even if not much. Your done a good job in bringing out the texture of the corset on Rose. Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ Does anyone play Nintendo anymore?? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 15:53:33 2009 Received: (qmail 16237 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 13:53:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 13:53:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBCAE182E7 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A40E2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B9134AC02B for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:53:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C63C34AC02C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:53:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao107.cox.net (eastrmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.240.59]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 06:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090408135328.WSKX11273.eastrmmtao107.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:53:28 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id d1tS1b00C4Z9Gks021tSVX; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:53:26 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=e-V5R6T_vJu6Hk1-i0EA:9 a=yVv9Eo6l-ziiSjmqrcAA:7 a=O0UBhubAiL_Sv2Z6g3Mx15FK730A:4 a=-ZQhYGXY2L8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <2E9D4A27E1124C04B45375E868291851@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <380-2200942713313504@earthlink.net> <49DB7578.1030809@chucknorcutt.com><73F1A50F-7BE5-4C30-9BF1-CCC571A59AF1@people.net.au> <49DBD5A7.2000907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:53:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 15:53:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcac5d155091023412894 For those of us that have HBO and watch sometimes the latenight fare, we know that this retro business is generally confined to a few big cities and slightly overweight women. It seems to have become in part entertainment for women. Here in the heartland, I"m told that some straight women now frequent "gnetlemen's" clubs. Don't entirely know that that's alll about. BIll Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? > Andrew Fildes wrote: >> Indeed not - burlesque has made a comeback. It's almost a cult with some >> gels who are into all that retro stuff. >> > > 1. Chuck referred specifically to the US of America, not any bunch of > antipodeans. > > 2. Do you use "Burlesque" in the limited context of strip and peep > shows, or the broader original meaning? > > Moose >> ... >> On 08/04/2009, at 1:47 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> That type of pasties is probably extinct everywhere in the US. Certainly >>> not to be seen in Vegas. >>> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.46/2046 - Release Date: 04/07/09 17:53:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 17:33:05 2009 Received: (qmail 24009 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 15:33:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 15:33:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2625EE182E1 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A208E2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB2519E8BC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7CD19E206 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:32:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (davidt@omega.apdata.com.au whitelisted) Received: from cerberus.apdata.com.au (cerberus.apdata.com.au [202.14.95.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.apdata.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerberus.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81518B82E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:02:49 +0930 (CST) Received: from mail.apdata.com.au (mail.apdata.com.au [192.168.252.16]) by cerberus.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C29B814 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:02:48 +0930 (CST) Received: from mail.apdata.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59C2116E8C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:02:47 +0930 (CST) Received: from rocket.omega.apdata.com.au (unknown [192.168.244.19]) by mail.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A0D116E8B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:02:47 +0930 (CST) Received: by rocket.omega.apdata.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD0E956494; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:02:46 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:02:46 +0930 From: David Thatcher To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <20090408153246.GA79925@rocket.omega.apdata.com.au> References: <49DBAB5A.4050108@chucknorcutt.com> <14B042D11A6E4720B1EC605D77230436@jimnichols> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <14B042D11A6E4720B1EC605D77230436@jimnichols> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Kavpostfix-Config: /etc/mail/kavpostfix.cfg X-Kavpostfix-Perl: /etc/mail/tasklogger.pl X-Kavpostfix-Version: 5.063 X-Kavpostfix-Config: /etc/mail/kavpostfix.cfg X-Kavpostfix-Perl: /etc/mail/testcode.pl X-Kavpostfix-Version: 5.083 X-Spam-Not-Checked: Message sender whitelisted X-Complete-Junk: NO X-NSGproxy-Conv: 172.31.254.5:5748 -> 67.131.251.53:25 X-NSGproxy-Policy: CERBERUS Outbound X-NSGproxy-Service: CERBERUS-SMTP X-NSGproxy-MsgID: 15098ac1ffe0549dcc3a9c1f160 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 17:33:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcc3b189951869477228 The equipment that these spare parts are intended for will net you a $10,000 fine in the state of South Australia (entirely because of the brace...) Bizarre... davidt On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:46:16PM -0500, Jim Nichols wrote: > Thanks, Chuck. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > > > > > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > > Jim Nichols wrote: > >> Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has > >> completely deteriorated. > >> > >> Jim Nichols > >> Tullahoma, TN USA > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "John Hermanson" > >> > >>> In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a > >>> beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of > >>> ball bearing ammunition. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 17:36:22 2009 Received: (qmail 772 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 15:36:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 15:36:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BD0E182F9 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCABAE2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDD819E94D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373C119E8BC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (davidt@omega.apdata.com.au whitelisted) Received: from cerberus.apdata.com.au (cerberus.apdata.com.au [202.14.95.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.apdata.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerberus.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121B6BB8F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:06:15 +0930 (CST) Received: from mail.apdata.com.au (mail.apdata.com.au [192.168.252.16]) by cerberus.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F87B82E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:06:13 +0930 (CST) Received: from mail.apdata.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94181116E8C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:06:13 +0930 (CST) Received: from rocket.omega.apdata.com.au (unknown [192.168.244.19]) by mail.apdata.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F33116E8B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:06:13 +0930 (CST) Received: by rocket.omega.apdata.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E61FA56494; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:06:12 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 01:06:12 +0930 From: David Thatcher To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <20090408153612.GB79925@rocket.omega.apdata.com.au> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Kavpostfix-Config: /etc/mail/kavpostfix.cfg X-Kavpostfix-Perl: /etc/mail/tasklogger.pl X-Kavpostfix-Version: 5.063 X-Kavpostfix-Config: /etc/mail/kavpostfix.cfg X-Kavpostfix-Perl: /etc/mail/testcode.pl X-Kavpostfix-Version: 5.083 X-Spam-Not-Checked: Message sender whitelisted X-Complete-Junk: NO X-NSGproxy-Conv: 172.31.254.5:6904 -> 67.131.251.53:25 X-NSGproxy-Policy: CERBERUS Outbound X-NSGproxy-Service: CERBERUS-SMTP X-NSGproxy-MsgID: 15095ac1ffe0549dcc470839c70 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 17:36:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcc476282061702588592 On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:56:58AM -0500, Ken Norton wrote: > > I had a wrist-rocket. Used it so much that I was replacing the bungee on it > about every two weeks. I was good, really really good. > > BTW, when one of those bungees snaps, it does wonders to your face. Growing up in a rural environment, I found it was always best to 'shoot from the hip' - slingy at ribcage level. ;) davidt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 19:15:09 2009 Received: (qmail 2815 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 17:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 17:15:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CE3E18303 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2A5E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A955F34AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBAC34AC024 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:15:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (smtp03.online.nl [194.134.41.33]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD9068288 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:14:55 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:14:54 +0200 Message-ID: <3285F1F5CDC44E2CAB8524C03A0E2CD4@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <73tot41if42191vpqnsk2tcev1f8385jf5@4ax.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp03.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Unleaning Pizza X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 19:15:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcdb9d166509117217770 I've had about the same experience as you Frank. Very slippery and no ropes or bars. Not much visitor though as it was Januari 1st 1983. I even remember it was close to noon, why? The guy selling tickets at the bottom of the tower smiled meanly when we entered. After we got up to the second to last row we understood why. Just as we came up to that level all the bells in the tower started to peal. The sound was so loud we immediately had to leave that level. We were happy to reach the open top where the sound was a bit less deafening. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Frank van Lindert [mailto:Frank@vanLindert.nl] > Verzonden: woensdag 8 april 2009 12:00 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Unleaning Pizza > > > LOL. > This Tai Chi thing demonstrates you didn't make the orginal > picture, am I right? All of those people are subjects of > their own photographers, pretending to 'fix it' in their own way. > > I have climbed the Pisa Tower about 20 years ago, when it was > still permitted. It was rather dangerous, because it was > raining, all stone was slippery and the platforms were > crowded. Nowhere ropes or bars to keep you from stepping off... > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > > On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:52:34 +1000, Andrew Fildes wrote: > > >Got bored so I fixed it. Don't know how to explain the Italian Tai > >Chi in the foreground but. > >http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/111080695 > >Andrew Fildes > >afildes@people.net.au > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 19:24:05 2009 Received: (qmail 2216 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 17:24:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 17:24:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C60E1830D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C60BE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D10234AC02A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8737134AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (smtp07.online.nl [194.134.42.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6193498045 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:23:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:23:57 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:23:55 +0200 Message-ID: <9D9B5A7E57A64D748506AF66DF284D2B@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <3F395560-B34B-42B7-96B4-3AB65E788B42@people.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Hobbies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 19:24:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcddb583721585427447 Nice hobby indeed Andrew ;-) I liked Tita-Bundle.jpg best. The pose really works for me. Does't even have to show her nudity (although she needs to hide nothing;-)) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Andrew Fildes [mailto:afildes@people.net.au] > Verzonden: woensdag 8 april 2009 14:05 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: [OM] Hobbies > > > I've come to the conclusion that I've discovered perhaps the best > possible hobby. > Galleries from the last week. > No Oly gear used (sorry). > > Think of it as my PAW gallery. :-) > (nudity warning). > > Comments welcome - keep them nice! > I like these gels. > And yes, they liked the images! (Especially Rose). > http://www.pbase.com/afildes/tita http://www.pbase.com/afildes/rose Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 19:30:19 2009 Received: (qmail 29449 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 17:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 17:30:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECC3E1831A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7126CE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6434D34AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9E334AC024 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp08.online.nl (smtp08.online.nl [194.134.42.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp08.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB3666712 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp08.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:30:12 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:30:10 +0200 Message-ID: <278281BBE28347DC8059B8E47078F612@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp08.online.nl) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Backyard X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 19:30:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcdf2b4731342116753 Hi guys, Finally took some time to photograph my backyard: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiliam/3419311392/ Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 20:19:06 2009 Received: (qmail 18067 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 18:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 18:19:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2D4E182FA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57891E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC921CD499 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:19:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E8D1CD49C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DEFC95F3 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:42:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:18:57 +0100 References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 20:19:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcea9a81141470116606 I always reckoned that a slingshot was the weapon that David used on Goliath. And that what you chaps call a slingshot is in fact a catapult. Chris On 6 Apr 2009, at 19:05, Paul Laughlin wrote: > A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The > first > night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog > "using" the > yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the > dog, which > immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had > possibly > killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up > and ran > off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL > Paul in Portland OR -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 20:25:42 2009 Received: (qmail 2727 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 18:25:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 18:25:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A88E1830A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E781E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C74D1CD49F for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1BC1CD499 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:36 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n38IPWDa027547 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:25:34 GMT Message-ID: <99BBF24BBF7C45CCB04CA241F7473B65@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:25:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 20:25:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcec2633934673671140 Chris, I think that, technically, you are correct. It all comes down to common usage in the area where one grew up. I never could hit anything with the "sling" version. And, to us, catapults were used to launch aircraft from carriers. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >I always reckoned that a slingshot was the weapon that David used on > Goliath. And that what you chaps call a slingshot is in fact a > catapult. > > Chris > > On 6 Apr 2009, at 19:05, Paul Laughlin wrote: > >> A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The >> first >> night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog >> "using" the >> yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the >> dog, which >> immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had >> possibly >> killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up >> and ran >> off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL >> Paul in Portland OR > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 20:33:32 2009 Received: (qmail 11631 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 18:33:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 18:33:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B654E18300 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B656DE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A391CD498 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68AC1CD49C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.144]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so164631qwj.26 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:33:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.210 with SMTP id c18mr2023869qab.30.1239215606034; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:33:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:33:25 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0904081133m328c7dfr7e490973b057474b@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 20:33:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcedfc286321744846740 Chris, The weapon of antiquity is referred to as a "sling". The "slingshot", which you call a catapault, is a more recent invention. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sling_(weapon) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingshot The former is much more dificult to use than the latter. Charlie On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > I always reckoned that a slingshot was the weapon that David used on > Goliath. And that what you chaps call a slingshot is in fact a > catapult. > > Chris > > On 6 Apr 2009, at 19:05, Paul Laughlin wrote: > > > A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The > > first > > night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog > > "using" the > > yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the > > dog, which > > immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had > > possibly > > killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up > > and ran > > off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL > > Paul in Portland OR > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 20:45:07 2009 Received: (qmail 26444 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 18:45:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 18:45:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA5CE182F7 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B343E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522F034AC027 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:45:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680C334AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id 6.d44.430cffa7 (42808) for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:44:57 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:44:57 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 20:45:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dcf0b3141774673671140 Well, no doubt, the microwave would cure it. Bill Barber In a message dated 4/7/2009 4:34:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, afildes@people.net.au writes: http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/32679158 Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 22:07:47 2009 Received: (qmail 7698 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 20:07:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 20:07:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44145E18316 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15E7E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CA81CD49A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:07:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA531CD490 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:07:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5043 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 20:07:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 22:07:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd041352105368819438 A-DEP appears to be on all the APS-C bodies but DEP mode is among the missing on a 5D. Chuck Norcutt Marc Lawrence wrote: > 2009/4/8 Chuck Norcutt : >> An interesting hack. Some canon SLR lenses do feedback focusing >> distance to the camera but it's only used for flash exposure >> calculation. The hyperfocal distance display is a cool idea and >> overcomes the lens marking problem for zooms. No reason why a firmware >> hack on the DSLR's couldn't do the same. > > Some Canon (D)SLR cameras used to/still do(?) have either a DEP mode > or an A-DEP mode. The A-DEP mode (on my 10D) looked at the reading > from the focus points available, picked the one with the closest item > in the scene under it, the one with the farthest item in the scene > under it (which could also be "infinity") and then selected an > aperture and focus distance that captured those two in focus. > > The DEP mode. from memory, was a three-step process (I had it on my > 50E/Elan IIE). You first pressed the shutter-release to focus on your > near-subject, then again for your far subject, and then a third time > to take the photo (when it would do as above - select focus distance > and aperture to capture those two points in focus). If I remember > rightly, it tried to just capture those two focal points in focus, so > that if you selected two points not too far (back to front) apart, it > would open the aperture as far as it could (to actually minimise DoF > to those two points, and blur the rest as far as it could. > > I think the latter option is on the 5D, but is not on the 5D MkII. > > Cheers, > Marc > Noosa Heads, Oz > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 22:11:04 2009 Received: (qmail 412 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 20:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 20:11:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C41E182E4 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC798E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8714234AC02A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4449134AC029 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB350314096 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78674314094 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:11:10 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 22:11:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd04d838302046811720 > > Oh yeah. We were always on the lookout for the perfect willow crotch and there were always old inner tubes around. Vine maple is the tree of choice for the best slingshots. Very strong and the Y's are uniform. Surgical tubing of course after the inner tube rubber was "improved". For the rock pocket the tongue of an old boot. The glaciers have provided an abundance of suitable ammo. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 22:11:36 2009 Received: (qmail 1364 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 20:11:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 20:11:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD51DE182F5 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A734AE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984F034AC024 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329CE34AC027 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6977 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 20:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 20:11:23 -0000 Message-ID: <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:11:22 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 22:11:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd04f828745368819438 Sorry, I should have mentioned that. I don't get it because I've been registered at that site for a long time. All it wants is your email address to send you some weekly photo related advertising blurbs and a handful of photo tips. Some of the photo tips are very good so I subscribe and ignore (most) of the advertising in the email. AFAIK they treat your email address as their own and don't hand it out. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Chuck, your link takes me to some kind of login/registration page. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Apr 7, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> No flash required >> > Dr. Flash >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 22:12:49 2009 Received: (qmail 8271 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 20:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 20:12:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8382CE182F2 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8716EE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769641CD4AA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5E1CD4A9 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7805 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 20:12:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 20:12:42 -0000 Message-ID: <49DD053A.8090405@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:12:42 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Unleaning Pizza X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 22:12:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd0541299121744846740 The ground is apparently unstable since the quake. It appears to have leaned a little already since you fixed it. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > Got bored so I fixed it. Don't know how to explain the Italian Tai > Chi in the foreground but. > http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/111080695 > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 22:48:59 2009 Received: (qmail 30748 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 20:48:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 20:48:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8A7E182FA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0081E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D741CD49A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:48:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CE31CD498 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:48:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31284 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 20:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 22:48:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd0dbb23451529615919 I love the night shot along the river. I also liked the twig and leaves but wish the DOF had covered the second leaf. Chuck Norcutt Patrick Moore wrote: > Hi All, > > I was sitting at the computer at the weekend, looking at the photos I'd > just developed in Lightroom. I was happy with the results. I uploaded > them to my (rather disfunctional) website and thought they looked rather > dull and uninteresting in comparison. Initially I thought it was the > gallery software I was using; perhaps something was going wrong in the > conversion. Swapping between the uploaded copy and the local copy, I saw > the uploaded one was significantly less vibrant, interesting and frankly, > not how it looked in the local copy. > > Originall I was looking at it in Firefox, so switched to Safari and > noticed that it seemed fine there. *click* went the switch in my head, and > I remembered about colour profiles. Firefox was using it's internal > profile, not that embedded in the image. Firefox 3 can use embedded > profiles, it just chooses not to by default. My bad. I tuned on using > embedded profiles, and it all just worked. Everything looked as I wanted. > > I went back to Lightroom, realised I had exported as AdobeRGB rather than > sRGB. I've now fixed this and subsequent exports should be fine. > > So yes. > > For what it's worth, this was the set that prompted me to look into this, > though previous ones were affected too. > > http://the.earth.li/~paddy/cgi-bin/range.pl?dir=april_2009_assorted_blend > > p. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 22:55:10 2009 Received: (qmail 8243 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 20:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 20:55:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49660E18307 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DADE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4DF1CD498 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1491CD49C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3099 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 20:55:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 20:55:02 -0000 Message-ID: <49DD0F26.9010501@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:55:02 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> <49DC9179.4090306@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DC9179.4090306@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 22:55:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd0f2e199611342116753 Or your own teeth. My brother's two front teeth each have a small triangular chip out of the bottom and inside edges where they join in the center. Not a Wrist Rocket but a Whamo with wooden "Y" shaped frame. When he fired the slingshot the ball hit the frame and bounced back into his mouth breaking the chips off his teeth. Serves him right for whacking me in the eyebrow with an old rusty shovel when I was about 6. :-) Chuck Norcutt John Hermanson wrote: > My parents wisely forbid it. It wasn't a toy but a "you'll put someones > eye out" device. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has >> completely deteriorated. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hermanson" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >> >> >>> In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a >>> beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of >>> ball bearing ammunition. >>> ___________________________________ >>> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >>> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >>> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >>> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >>> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >>> >>> >>> Paul Laughlin wrote: >>>> A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The first >>>> night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog "using" the >>>> yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the dog, >>>> which >>>> immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had possibly >>>> killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up and ran >>>> off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL >>>> Paul in Portland OR >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Andrew Fildes" >>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>>> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:16 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >>>> >>>> >>>>> How does it distinguish between cats and the legs of visitors? >>>>> Neat trick tho' - but would probably offend water use restrictions >>>>> around here. >>>>> Now I had a friend who hated cats and used a sporting slingshot >>>>> (catapult) with 12mm steel ball bearings on any who entered his >>>>> garden - the cats didn't 'not come back' - they never actually left. >>>>> Like a rifle without the noise - he was deadly accurate. >>>>> But I suppose that's a bit too extreme for most of you. >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 23:01:52 2009 Received: (qmail 1850 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 21:01:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:01:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E36E1830A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD1DE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A1A1CD49E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8482B1CD49D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7682 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 21:01:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Backyard X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 23:01:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd10c0250254673671140 It looks pleasant and green. Are those gates in the back that perhaps lead to an alleyway behind the houses? Chuck Norcutt Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi guys, > > Finally took some time to photograph my backyard: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiliam/3419311392/ > > Wiliam -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 23:03:33 2009 Received: (qmail 23441 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 21:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:03:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAC8E182ED for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB486E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F2D34AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:03:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E337D361000C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8512 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 21:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 23:03:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd1125216458512572685 No... a proper catapult needs a 500 pound stone does it not? Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > I always reckoned that a slingshot was the weapon that David used on > Goliath. And that what you chaps call a slingshot is in fact a > catapult. > > Chris > > On 6 Apr 2009, at 19:05, Paul Laughlin wrote: > >> A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The >> first >> night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog >> "using" the >> yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the >> dog, which >> immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had >> possibly >> killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up >> and ran >> off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL >> Paul in Portland OR > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 23:16:11 2009 Received: (qmail 10845 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 21:16:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:16:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB24E182F8 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB53E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E667334AC02A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006F934AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (smtp04.online.nl [194.134.41.34]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp04.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A018E33D for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:16:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp04.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:16:01 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:15:59 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <49DD10B8.8080701@chucknorcutt.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp04.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Backyard X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 23:16:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd141b35231869477228 Thanks Chuck, Yes we like it and we started to work on it after winter. The gates you see are not really gates but trellis screens to look through. The gate is immediately next to the shed. You are right about the aaeyway though. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Verzonden: woensdag 8 april 2009 23:02 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Backyard > > > It looks pleasant and green. Are those gates in the back > that perhaps > lead to an alleyway behind the houses? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > Finally took some time to photograph my backyard: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiliam/3419311392/ > > > > Wiliam > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 23:27:53 2009 Received: (qmail 26535 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 21:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:27:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34807E182FA for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9DCE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902D73610002 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F11734AC029 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3126 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 21:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:27:37 -0000 In-Reply-To: <99BBF24BBF7C45CCB04CA241F7473B65@jimnichols> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> <99BBF24BBF7C45CCB04CA241F7473B65@jimnichols> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <83EF4BFA-9873-4546-90FE-08B721C6FABF@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:27:42 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 23:27:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd16d9137591234514069 Exactly. I called it a 'slingshot' so that the murkins would know what I meant. As a child in the UK we called them 'catapults' and Australians call them a 'Shanghai' for some reason. Same device - a 'Y' shaped fork of tough wood with strong elastic and a 'sling' for the hot. The commercial and powerful sporting slingshots are now illegal here as they are potentially lethal. Catapult from the greek - kata-pelt (down-shield) indicating that it was a weapon that could penetrate down through a shield - it was applied to weapons that threw a projectile like an arrow or those that hurled a rock or burning mass. The traditional slingshot (of David) was simply a personal version for a society that had leather but not elastic. http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/war/Catapults.htm Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/04/2009, at 4:25 AM, Jim Nichols wrote: > I think that, technically, you are correct. It all comes down to > common > usage in the area where one grew up. I never could hit anything > with the > "sling" version. And, to us, catapults were used to launch aircraft > from > carriers. > > > > >> I always reckoned that a slingshot was the weapon that David used on >> Goliath. And that what you chaps call a slingshot is in fact a >> catapult. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Apr 8 23:28:26 2009 Received: (qmail 1361 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 21:28:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:28:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07927E18300 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AF7E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AE21CD49E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD2D1CD48C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3291 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2009 21:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 21:28:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <38EE0E0E-B751-4C5D-A87E-7E4018D49782@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:28:18 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Trip to the US? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Apr 8 23:28:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd16fa319991234514069 Thanks. Now I feel quite unwell. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/04/2009, at 4:44 AM, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > Well, no doubt, the microwave would cure it. Bill Barber > > > In a message dated 4/7/2009 4:34:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > afildes@people.net.au writes: > > http://www.pbase.com/afildes/image/32679158 > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 00:10:23 2009 Received: (qmail 6943 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 22:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 22:10:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBB9E182D4 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B41BE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532B21CD48C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4D619EAF3 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:10:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f175.google.com (mail-bw0-f175.google.com [209.85.218.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so336770bwz.14 for ; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.69 with SMTP id u5mr1540238bkq.77.1239228615207; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DD0409.9040202@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> <49DD0409.9040202@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:10:15 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e7f1d629f011f6f4 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 00:10:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd20cf134361234514069 > > A-DEP appears to be on all the APS-C bodies but DEP mode is among the > missing on a 5D. > It's in the same spot as the MLU button. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 00:18:31 2009 Received: (qmail 24284 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 22:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 22:18:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B065FE182ED for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E5FE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02391CD49A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253041CD498 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18366 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 22:18:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 22:18:20 -0000 Message-ID: <49DD22AC.3010703@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:18:20 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB85E094FB8F81-1A1C-6D0@WEBMAIL-MY17.sysops.aol.com> <49DC0C26.1070008@chucknorcutt.com> <49DD0409.9040202@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 00:18:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd22b7268361585427447 Not even. MLU can be accomplished, it's just cumbersome. DEP just isn't there. I guess I'll just have to depend on shooting advice from Dr. Focus. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> A-DEP appears to be on all the APS-C bodies but DEP mode is among the >> missing on a 5D. >> > > It's in the same spot as the MLU button. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 00:47:52 2009 Received: (qmail 20151 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 22:47:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 22:47:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE346E18304 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFAFE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9459A1CD495 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638E81CD490 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id czzg1b0040cQ2SLAFAnnR6; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:47:47 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id dAnm1b0032Axmu48WAnmz9; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:47:46 +0000 Message-ID: <97F2317D9AD8407A9C701E6F00B0483A@PaulPC> From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:47:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 00:47:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd2998162931035110158 We called the little slingshots "bean flippers". Worked pretty good with beans, BBs or such. LOL Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" To: "1" Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > >> Oh yeah. We were always on the lookout for the perfect willow crotch and >> there were always old inner tubes around. > Vine maple is the tree of choice for the best slingshots. Very strong > and the Y's are uniform. Surgical tubing of course after the inner tube > rubber was "improved". For the rock pocket the tongue of an old boot. > The glaciers have provided an abundance of suitable ammo. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 00:54:46 2009 Received: (qmail 6451 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 22:54:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 22:54:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47C8E182CC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328BBE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0013734AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C20534AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KHT00HTY0Z31BZ1@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:54:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-79-209.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.79.209]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:54:38 -0300 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:54:41 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <5AA431FC7B684A2AB2061F895278EDBD@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoIOAF/I3EkYik/R/2dsb2JhbACBTIhmxhQHg3QG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,157,1238986800"; d="scan'208";a="500998219" References: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net> <97F2317D9AD8407A9C701E6F00B0483A@PaulPC> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 00:54:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd2b36281001591313764 What about an upcoming TOPE gallery .......... Shots from your back doorstep / of your back garden / back yard / back patio ? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > We called the little slingshots "bean flippers". Worked pretty good with > beans, BBs or such. LOL > Paul in Portland OR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Lazzari" > To: "1" > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor > > >> > >>> Oh yeah. We were always on the lookout for the perfect willow crotch >>> and >>> there were always old inner tubes around. >> Vine maple is the tree of choice for the best slingshots. Very strong >> and the Y's are uniform. Surgical tubing of course after the inner tube >> rubber was "improved". For the rock pocket the tongue of an old boot. >> The glaciers have provided an abundance of suitable ammo. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 01:13:33 2009 Received: (qmail 12621 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 23:13:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 23:13:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306BEE182F9 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BD6E2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D353610002 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B33610001 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rtomcala@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([173.67.40.169]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHT00LXR1U7L6TS@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:13:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DD2F8E.3090008@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:13:18 -0400 From: Rand E User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net> <97F2317D9AD8407A9C701E6F00B0483A@PaulPC> In-reply-to: <97F2317D9AD8407A9C701E6F00B0483A@PaulPC> Subject: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 01:13:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd2f9d254121591313764 Has anyone tried this adapter in an E-thingie ? If it works, it could be a way around the current 2 gig limitation on the XD card Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 01:53:20 2009 Received: (qmail 24457 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2009 23:53:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Apr 2009 23:53:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EF9E182F2 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D68E2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F4634AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DDF34AC027 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:52:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2956 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2009 23:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Apr 2009 23:52:56 -0000 Message-ID: <49DD38D7.8060607@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:52:55 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net> <97F2317D9AD8407A9C701E6F00B0483A@PaulPC> <49DD2F8E.3090008@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DD2F8E.3090008@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 01:53:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd38f0144041591313764 Why would anyone want to use an xD card if there is a CF slot available? If I had an E-thingie with xD and CF slots and I had an xD card and no CF card I would discard the xD card and go buy a CF card. Chuck Norcutt Rand E wrote: > Has anyone tried this adapter in an E-thingie ? > If it works, it could be a way around the current 2 gig limitation on > the XD card > > > Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 03:30:31 2009 Received: (qmail 15364 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 01:30:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 01:30:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52DDE18308 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57E4E2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EA34AC02A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB3534AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toip4.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.87]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090409013025.EJJM1809.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip4.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:30:25 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwBALLs3ElMRTwZ/2dsb2JhbAAIzliCLYFOBg Received: from bas4-toronto46-1279605785.dsl.bell.ca (HELO [192.168.51.152]) ([76.69.60.25]) by toip4.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 08 Apr 2009 21:42:12 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:30:20 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter Thread-Index: Acm4sr61/U3kbCSlEd6CuQAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <49DD38D7.8060607@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 03:30:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd4fb7307001499373980 I always keep an xD card in the E-3 as insurance against the "Oh cr*p" moment when I fill the CF card and realise I forgot to bring the second (and third and fourth...). Michael On 4/8/09 7:52 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Why would anyone want to use an xD card if there is a CF slot available? > If I had an E-thingie with xD and CF slots and I had an xD card and no > CF card I would discard the xD card and go buy a CF card. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 05:04:03 2009 Received: (qmail 29550 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 03:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 03:04:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023ABE182F9 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEB7E2412E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE2C34AC029 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:03:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8593434AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:03:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rtomcala@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([173.67.40.169]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHT00FOCCIBC0VS@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:03:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DD6592.5030506@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:03:46 -0400 From: Rand E User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 05:04:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd65a3152585368819438 I agree on that reason as well as being able to move data over to the XD and free up space on the much faster CF card. Chucks answer fell a bit short of answering my question . So, I'm still interested in an answer. Michael Collins wrote: > I always keep an xD card in the E-3 as insurance against the "Oh cr*p" > moment when I fill the CF card and realise I forgot to bring the second (and > third and fourth...). > > Michael > > On 4/8/09 7:52 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > >> Why would anyone want to use an xD card if there is a CF slot available? >> If I had an E-thingie with xD and CF slots and I had an xD card and no >> CF card I would discard the xD card and go buy a CF card. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 06:20:52 2009 Received: (qmail 25237 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 04:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 04:20:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077C0E182E2 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D180EE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45D534AC01E for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7236034AC025 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FC92E7B228 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zVdhhbpGoM0n for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BBF2E7B221 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:20:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] Free to good home: Olympus E-1 Brochure X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 06:20:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd77a4133621470116606 This is the silver-gray, 16 page brochure with many glossies of lenses and a sweet babe on the inside cover. First come, first gets it. Reply privately with mailing address. I can mail from the US between the 17th and the 24th, or from Canada any time. :::: Never argue with an idiot: a bystander can't tell the difference. -- Mark Twain :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 07:24:02 2009 Received: (qmail 32097 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 05:24:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 05:24:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32F7E18305 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACCEE24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D991CD490 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65801CD48A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 196.red-83-52-20.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.20.196]:54768 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lrmjr-00065V-Ch (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:23:48 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Picture a Day discussion group , Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:23:46 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: a walk in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 07:24:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd8671211571035110158 Last weekend I took the family skiing in Sierra Nevada. Since I don't ski, I used Saturday to drive to nearby Granada and have a walk around that city, my first visit there. As usual, a small gallery of somewhat eclectic images is the result: http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/ I did not get to the Alhambra, the queue was too long. That will have to wait for the next visit, and there will certainly be one--I found Granada to be an extremely interesting city. As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 07:58:48 2009 Received: (qmail 32608 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 05:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 05:58:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283AAE182F4 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACD6E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C66C34AC024 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC9B34AC027 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 196.red-83-52-20.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.20.196]:55016 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LrnHZ-0001eq-KS (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:58:37 +0000 Message-Id: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Picture a Day discussion group , Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:58:36 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 07:58:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd8e98283481234514069 A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this week, more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=224 As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 08:19:52 2009 Received: (qmail 3779 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 06:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 06:19:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABDBE182CC for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DA6E24130 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF681CD48C for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:19:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF72F1CD48A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29966 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2009 06:19:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 06:19:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> References: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: <6C5BC4F8-2E16-4829-944D-EADAEB58BBBF@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:19:41 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 08:19:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dd9388144781702588592 That guard dog looks more like a lost Koala - less so in fact as a big male Koala silverback can be a nasty, dangerous creature. I much preferred the Granada shots as I have an aversion to big lumps and snow - the street tango dancers with stray drunk (?) in particular. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 09/04/2009, at 3:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this week, > more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a > fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=224 > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 09:59:02 2009 Received: (qmail 12758 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 07:59:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 07:59:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A41DE1830C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC220E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965AD34AC025 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: -1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09C534AC024 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:58:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from the.earth.li (the.earth.li [217.147.81.2]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paddy by the.earth.li with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lrp9w-0004FU-03 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:58:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:58:51 +0100 From: Patrick Moore To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <20090409075851.GG15069@the.earth.li> References: <20090408104105.GF15069@the.earth.li> <49DD0DB1.5070802@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49DD0DB1.5070802@chucknorcutt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: [OM] Colour Space, a cautionary tale. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 09:59:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddaac6208851023412894 * On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:48:49PM -0400, Chuck Norcutt said: > I love the night shot along the river. I also liked the twig and leaves > but wish the DOF had covered the second leaf. Thanks. The night shot is looking up the Lagan (the main river in Belfast). Incidently, the Tallish tower block in the background is where I spent my undergrad days. (QUB's Electronic Engineering dept.) And yes, I agree with the DOF being lacking. It was an accidental shot, in so far as I was just hitting buttons and playing with how HSS flash behaved, and wasn't really paying attention. It does seem to work well though. Cheers for looking. p. -- paddy: no longer a student | Toys are made in heaven, batteries | give me hardware. | are made in hell. | I'll be nice then. | | -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 12:09:55 2009 Received: (qmail 9560 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 10:09:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 10:09:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED0AE182DA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5432E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E534AC024 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A93A34AC01E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:09:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:41761 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LrrCd-0000xz-LZ for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:09:47 -0500 Message-ID: <49DDC965.8030807@picturepedia.org> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:09:41 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 12:09:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddc973131902070262475 Those look like the fearsome belgium KWAK beer glasses ;-) in alternate 1 Nathan Wajsman wrote: > A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this week, > more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a > fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 12:50:27 2009 Received: (qmail 32383 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 10:50:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 10:50:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BD0E1830A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85538E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5027619E039 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F5519DFD8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19577 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 10:50:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 10:50:20 -0000 Message-ID: <49DDD2EC.6070506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:50:20 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DD6592.5030506@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DD6592.5030506@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 12:50:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddd2f388014673671140 Sorry for the flip answer but I consider the xD card to be a customer rip-off by Fuji and Olympus. If it wasn't there would have been no reason to ask about 2GB limits. To save themselves money (not you) the xD card eliminates the built-in drive controller found in all CF cards and introduces unnecessary equipment and card compatibility constraints. Chuck Norcutt Rand E wrote: > I agree on that reason as well as being able to move data over to the XD > and free up space on the much faster CF card. Chucks answer fell a bit > short of answering my question . So, I'm still interested in an answer. > > > Michael Collins wrote: >> I always keep an xD card in the E-3 as insurance against the "Oh cr*p" >> moment when I fill the CF card and realise I forgot to bring the second (and >> third and fourth...). >> >> Michael >> >> On 4/8/09 7:52 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >> >>> Why would anyone want to use an xD card if there is a CF slot available? >>> If I had an E-thingie with xD and CF slots and I had an xD card and no >>> CF card I would discard the xD card and go buy a CF card. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >> >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 12:53:58 2009 Received: (qmail 20194 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 10:53:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 10:53:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D61E18302 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A725E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421AC34AC027 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8E034AC025 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so529840fxm.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:53:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.135 with SMTP id i7mr2070279bkg.154.1239274432325; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:53:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Gallery Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 12:53:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddd3c611658512572685 Thanks to everyone who wished me well for my review yesterday. It was very encouraging and provided plenty of food for thought... Based on which I've put my Living the Dream folder in the shoebox and I now offer http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upa and http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upb This gives you some hints about what they liked best, and how I will be trying to work for the next few months (and possibly even two or three new images)... Very useful thing to have done. I'm still grinning about some of it. Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 12:54:27 2009 Received: (qmail 6663 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 10:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 10:54:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93719E182F0 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AE8E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98B34AC027 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486CD34AC01E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21576 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 10:53:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 10:53:52 -0000 Message-ID: <49DDD3C0.6080602@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:53:52 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: a walk in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 12:54:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddd3e3190722336821329 I very much like "pews" but it's calling out to be corrected. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Last weekend I took the family skiing in Sierra Nevada. Since I don't > ski, I used Saturday to drive to nearby Granada and have a walk around > that city, my first visit there. As usual, a small gallery of somewhat > eclectic images is the result: > > http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/ > > I did not get to the Alhambra, the queue was too long. That will have > to wait for the next visit, and there will certainly be one--I found > Granada to be an extremely interesting city. > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 12:57:12 2009 Received: (qmail 31196 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 10:57:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 10:57:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E26E182DA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE70CE24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EF634AC024 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060AD34AC025 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 03:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23294 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 10:57:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 10:57:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49DDD480.7040700@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:57:04 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 12:57:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddd48826121585427447 Alt 6 & 9 but the white bag in 6 is a real distraction. I know, the rest of you didn't even notice it. :-) Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this week, > more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a > fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=224 > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 13:14:37 2009 Received: (qmail 15204 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 11:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 11:14:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADA3E182EC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B65CE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3905F19E0CB for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FD919E0BB for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 846 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 11:14:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 11:14:29 -0000 Message-ID: <49DDD895.1060102@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:14:29 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> <49DC0CDB.9010007@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 13:14:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddd89d52401744846740 I just checked the specs for the 1D ($5,000) and the 1Ds ($8,000) and "DEP mode" is nowhere to be found on the high-end stuff either. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > I am reminded that Canon implemented a rather nice DoF function early on in > the EOS to compensate for the lens designs not supporting DoF scales. As > implemented, you take a focus reading for the close object and another for > the far object and the camera calculates the required aperture and mid-point > focus point to achieve sharpness at both points. I used this a bit back in > the early days of the EOS and was impressed with how well it worked. > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:00:03 2009 Received: (qmail 12013 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:00:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0C5E182E2 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5C7E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99186361000B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:59:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F25F3610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:59:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHU00B181BK9ANK@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:59:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DDE332.4060804@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:59:46 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> <3F395560-B34B-42B7-96B4-3AB65E788B42@people.net.au> <300.a03e0d0065a3dc49.005@comkal.net> In-reply-to: <300.a03e0d0065a3dc49.005@comkal.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Hobbies X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:00:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dde343283191234514069 hmmm.......nudes.... ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ian Manners wrote: > Hi Andrew, > >> I've come to the conclusion that I've discovered perhaps the best >> possible hobby. > > Glad to see you have the same hobby :-) > > I dont even ask my subjects if they would consider publishing > on the internet. Maybe I should, at least for the more modest ones. > > Most of mine involve leather and/or latex, some lace, and the > rest, well, nothing, though personally I think women look best > with something on, even if not much. > > Your done a good job in bringing out the texture of the corset > on Rose. > > Cheers > Ian Manners > http://www.comkal.net/ > > Does anyone play Nintendo anymore?? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:18:22 2009 Received: (qmail 1462 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:18:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:18:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FEDE182E0 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2A9E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2509B3610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:18:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D560D3610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jgettis81@earthlink.net whitelisted) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.175.73.153] (helo=earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LrtCx-0000fP-5m for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:18:15 -0400 Message-ID: <380-2200944912181510@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.3.14.0 (Windows) From: "jgettis81@earthlink.net" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:18:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 6b7b8904845c0a29efb139d2bf51ae107e972de0d01da9403207827018ed9890a518fbeb17637dd4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.175.73.153 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:18:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dde78e283771342116753 I keep one in my e-500 for the oh crap I forgot to put a card in the camera moments. John -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:20:26 2009 Received: (qmail 19071 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:20:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:20:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E03E182EF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C40E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E480F3610012 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F1E3610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:20:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.211.237]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHU005FO29R8KEK@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:20:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DDE801.50509@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:20:17 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com><0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au><49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org><2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au><2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <49DB4A32.3020107@verizon.net> <6A44C0BA2BC542C0B4F310B5F006C31D@jimnichols> <49DC9179.4090306@verizon.net> <49DD0F26.9010501@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <49DD0F26.9010501@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:20:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dde80a118291023412894 ouch, that had to hurt! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Or your own teeth. My brother's two front teeth each have a small > triangular chip out of the bottom and inside edges where they join in > the center. Not a Wrist Rocket but a Whamo with wooden "Y" shaped > frame. When he fired the slingshot the ball hit the frame and bounced > back into his mouth breaking the chips off his teeth. > > Serves him right for whacking me in the eyebrow with an old rusty shovel > when I was about 6. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > John Hermanson wrote: >> My parents wisely forbid it. It wasn't a toy but a "you'll put someones >> eye out" device. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Jim Nichols wrote: >>> Yeah, I have one, but the surgical tubing that powered the action has >>> completely deteriorated. >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Hermanson" >>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor >>> >>> >>>> In the 60's, "Whamo" (maker of the Frisbee, Super Ball etc.) marketed a >>>> beautiful and really dangerous slingshot, even came with a supply of >>>> ball bearing ammunition. >>>> ___________________________________ >>>> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >>>> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >>>> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >>>> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >>>> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul Laughlin wrote: >>>>> A fellow employee bought on of those, called a wrist rocket. The first >>>>> night he had it, he looked out at his front yard to see a dog "using" the >>>>> yard. He grabbed the wrist rocket and a steel ball and shot the dog, >>>>> which >>>>> immediately fell over. About then it dawned on him that he had possibly >>>>> killed the local police chief's dog. Fortunately, the dog got up and ran >>>>> off. Never came back to use the yard, though. LOL >>>>> Paul in Portland OR >>>>> >>>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:28:42 2009 Received: (qmail 22048 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:28:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:28:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9E7E1830C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32DBE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C403A361000B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21D53610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:28:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61AD46159A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:49:29 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0904081133m328c7dfr7e490973b057474b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:28:34 +0100 References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> <14883a8b0904081133m328c7dfr7e490973b057474b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:28:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dde9fa170083675314703 Thanks, Charlie. I've checked in my Shorter Oxford Dictionary and you're right. I tend to treat Wikipedia as a guide rather than authority, open as it is to editing by hoi polloi ;-)). But it says that it's "sometimes" called a catapult in Britain. In my view it's always called that unless the US term has infected the community. But I cannot change that "sometimes", even after logging- in ... Chris On 8 Apr 2009, at 19:33, Charles Geilfuss wrote: > Chris, > The weapon of antiquity is referred to as a "sling". The "slingshot", > which you call a catapault, is a more recent invention. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sling_(weapon) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingshot > > The former is much more dificult to use than the latter. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:30:20 2009 Received: (qmail 11476 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:30:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:30:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBA8E182EC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBA5E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB7519E2A1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDC119E25C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E5A461601 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:08 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <380-2200944912181510@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:30:13 +0100 References: <380-2200944912181510@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:30:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddea5c310991073733319 And I in my E-3. I don't have one for my E-420 yet ... Chris On 9 Apr 2009, at 13:18, jgettis81@earthlink.net wrote: > I keep one in my e-500 for the oh crap I forgot to put a card in the > camera > moments. John -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:31:44 2009 Received: (qmail 15864 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:31:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:31:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340CAE182DB for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF48E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B16F19E2BA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA5F19E2A1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B6E4615B1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:52:33 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:31:38 +0100 References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:31:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddeab067338512572685 Could you describe the "simple portrait light", Chuck? I don't fancy yet-another-internet-registration-that-will-get-me- weekly-blurb :-) Chris On 8 Apr 2009, at 21:11, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Sorry, I should have mentioned that. I don't get it because I've been > registered at that site for a long time. All it wants is your email > address to send you some weekly photo related advertising blurbs and a > handful of photo tips. Some of the photo tips are very good so I > subscribe and ignore (most) of the advertising in the email. AFAIK > they > treat your email address as their own and don't hand it out. > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:33:30 2009 Received: (qmail 20263 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:33:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410E2E182E7 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA43E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9B719E21E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B9B19DCDB for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so569451bwz.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:33:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.11.5 with SMTP id o5mr1204113mui.75.1239280403398; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:33:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <278281BBE28347DC8059B8E47078F612@wiliam> References: <278281BBE28347DC8059B8E47078F612@wiliam> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:33:23 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47b2c5e847eeaa52 Message-ID: <9f07ac840904090533j223ec61bx38cc2332d2752ea3@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Backyard X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:33:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddeb1a24211023412894 Honey was cute as a kitten - how old is (s)he now?Jez On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Hi guys, > > Finally took some time to photograph my backyard: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wiliam/3419311392/ > > Wiliam > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:36:05 2009 Received: (qmail 15241 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:36:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E1EE182DC for ; 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Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:35:57 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <147A2DE1-7502-4190-9B4A-BEB22B6C0EE4@people.net.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> <000401c9b83f$143c8210$3cb58630$@com.au> <3F395560-B34B-42B7-96B4-3AB65E788B42@people.net.au> <300.a03e0d0065a3dc49.005@comkal.net> <49DDE332.4060804@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DDE332.4060804@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:35:55 +1000 Message-ID: <000301c9b90f$baf49950$30ddcbf0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acm5CrchUDqenpsbTPiVyygRl+tFgAAA//Cw Content-Language: en-au Subject: [OM] Zuiko Digital 9-18mm X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:36:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddebb5303721591313764 Well I decided to buy one, arrived a few days ago. I haven't done much shooting with it yet but so far I'm very impressed with its lack of flare: http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20090409-A-017-a.jpg @9mm f8 ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 14:44:51 2009 Received: (qmail 6703 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 12:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 12:44:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F629E182E5 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D730BE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1C33610012 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539B9361000C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rtomcala@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([173.67.40.169]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KHU00BIF3DXHW2E@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:44:20 -0400 From: Rand E User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: Subject: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 14:44:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddedc360071946193717 http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html?tag=nl.e550 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 15:38:05 2009 Received: (qmail 9055 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 13:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 13:38:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB17E182FA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078DBE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC1A361000B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAFC3610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:37:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so597016fxm.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.60.194 with SMTP id q2mr2213303bkh.150.1239284276575; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DDD895.1060102@chucknorcutt.com> References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> <49DC0CDB.9010007@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDD895.1060102@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:37:56 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fd81b0fb08074cb6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 15:38:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddfa3d99571035110158 > > I just checked the specs for the 1D ($5,000) and the 1Ds ($8,000) and > "DEP mode" is nowhere to be found on the high-end stuff either. > Which begs the question as to why a camera manufacturer would dumb down (ie, remove features) unnecessarily? Here I thought only Olympus pulled that kind of boner when they removed the spot-meter button from the E-series. Three things about the Canon really surprises me: 1. They haven't come out with a Digital EOS with the Pellicle Mirror, 2. No Digital EOS with eye-control AF 3. Missing features like DEP. (except for select low-end cameras) All three items have been in multiple EOS film cameras but have been missing in action on the digital bodies. This is not a slam against Canon in the least. It's a puzzlement to me because these were tremendous advances which have been largely ignored by today's product managers. I used to occasionally use an EOS RT "back in the day" when I did part-time work for a team-picture mill. I really did enjoy that camera. However, I remember that it was a bear to manual-focus. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 15:38:51 2009 Received: (qmail 204 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 13:38:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 13:38:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E84E182ED for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B643E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB6C3610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:38:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B843610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:38:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olympus-list@a918.demon.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a918.demon.co.uk ([80.176.143.163] helo=itspcddm13) by anchor-post-3.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69) id 1LruSr-0004ls-ns for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:38:45 +0000 From: "David D Miller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49DD04DE.7010901@interisland.net><97F2317D9AD8407A9C701E6F00B0483A@PaulPC> <49DD2F8E.3090008@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:38:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-reply-to: <49DD2F8E.3090008@verizon.net> Thread-Index: Acm4n67guiBYGVcnTSunoLo9xvrKWQAdoYMA Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 15:38:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddfa6b186574673671140 The MASD-1 adapter only works with selected newer cameras - mju-840, -850, -1010, -1020, and -1030. It's got an extra tab protruding from the middle of the contacts edge that will stop it being inserted in the xD slots of older cameras - and which presumably also tells the newer cameras to talk "MASD-1/microSD" rather than pure "xD". As for using xD (or even SmartMedia) cards in those cameras that have a second slot: Even a slow 128Mb card is better than nothing at all when you left the CompactFlash at home! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 15:45:34 2009 Received: (qmail 12729 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 13:45:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 13:45:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CAAE18301 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38438E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6319E50A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0A119E509 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.146]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so397668qwj.26 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:45:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.70 with SMTP id o6mr2781978qah.225.1239284728668; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 06:45:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83EF4BFA-9873-4546-90FE-08B721C6FABF@people.net.au> References: <49D950B1.8080003@chucknorcutt.com> <0CBE6563-806D-42A6-8012-BBC16A3264ED@people.net.au> <49D9BA4F.3040604@picturepedia.org> <2223D0E7-2F9F-4160-9E26-26F62A91EBC6@people.net.au> <2D5CBB8F128A418EB50A22BDF6574AB4@PaulPC> <36F1FE08-7F69-4F49-93AA-9EFE66E320C9@threeshoes.net> <99BBF24BBF7C45CCB04CA241F7473B65@jimnichols> <83EF4BFA-9873-4546-90FE-08B721C6FABF@people.net.au> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:45:28 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0904090645v5b780b24nce067da658cbbef@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Another Backyard Visitor X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 15:45:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ddfbfe721838542571 That's a very interesting website Andrew. Thanks for posting. CJG On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > Exactly. I called it a 'slingshot' so that the murkins would know > what I meant. As a child in the UK we called them 'catapults' and > Australians call them a 'Shanghai' for some reason. Same device - a > 'Y' shaped fork of tough wood with strong elastic and a 'sling' for > the hot. The commercial and powerful sporting slingshots are now > illegal here as they are potentially lethal. > Catapult from the greek - kata-pelt (down-shield) indicating that it > was a weapon that could penetrate down through a shield - it was > applied to weapons that threw a projectile like an arrow or those > that hurled a rock or burning mass. The traditional slingshot (of > David) was simply a personal version for a society that had leather > but not elastic. > http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/war/Catapults.htm > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 09/04/2009, at 4:25 AM, Jim Nichols wrote: > > > I think that, technically, you are correct. It all comes down to > > common > > usage in the area where one grew up. I never could hit anything > > with the > > "sling" version. And, to us, catapults were used to launch aircraft > > from > > carriers. > > > > > > > > > >> I always reckoned that a slingshot was the weapon that David used on > >> Goliath. And that what you chaps call a slingshot is in fact a > >> catapult. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 16:41:45 2009 Received: (qmail 30409 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 14:41:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 14:41:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D7AE182EE for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20698E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00D319E70A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C2619E662 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18751 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 14:41:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 14:41:36 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE091F.5060402@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:41:35 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <239592.44356.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49CFDD11.7060108@chucknorcutt.com> <49CFF45C.3040001@gmail.com> <49DB1810.4000804@gmail.com> <49DB6DCD.1060003@chucknorcutt.com> <49DBD08D.2040200@gmail.com> <49DC0CDB.9010007@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDD895.1060102@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Point Lobos [was Edward Weston - NY Times feature] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 16:41:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de092987711869477228 DEP and A-DEP are really quite different. A-DEP on the lower end bodies requires both desired focus points to be covered simultaneously by the active array of focus points. DEP allowed two focus points to be individually selected by the photographer in any order. That's much more versatile. But in either case it's only a small bit of firmware and they already had the logic worked out and debugged years ago. It doesn't make much sense. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> I just checked the specs for the 1D ($5,000) and the 1Ds ($8,000) and >> "DEP mode" is nowhere to be found on the high-end stuff either. >> > > > Which begs the question as to why a camera manufacturer would dumb down (ie, > remove features) unnecessarily? Here I thought only Olympus pulled that > kind of boner when they removed the spot-meter button from the E-series. > > Three things about the Canon really surprises me: > > 1. They haven't come out with a Digital EOS with the Pellicle Mirror, > 2. No Digital EOS with eye-control AF > 3. Missing features like DEP. (except for select low-end cameras) > > All three items have been in multiple EOS film cameras but have been missing > in action on the digital bodies. > > This is not a slam against Canon in the least. It's a puzzlement to me > because these were tremendous advances which have been largely ignored by > today's product managers. I used to occasionally use an EOS RT "back in the > day" when I did part-time work for a team-picture mill. I really did enjoy > that camera. However, I remember that it was a bear to manual-focus. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 16:45:31 2009 Received: (qmail 25751 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 14:45:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 14:45:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248FEE182E3 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E842FE24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C333D19E6F8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4824219E6E8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21568 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 14:45:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 14:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE0A01.20904@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:45:21 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Gallery Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 16:45:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de0a0b252589117217770 I note that many of your images contain what (though in public) are nevertheless probably copyrighted images. What's the implication of that for commercial use of your own images? Chuck Norcutt Tom Fenwick wrote: > Thanks to everyone who wished me well for my review yesterday. > > It was very encouraging and provided plenty of food for thought... Based on > which I've put my Living the Dream folder in the shoebox and I now offer > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upa > > and > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upb > > This gives you some hints about what they liked best, and how I will be > trying to work for the next few months (and possibly even two or three new > images)... > > Very useful thing to have done. I'm still grinning about some of it. > > Tom -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 16:55:17 2009 Received: (qmail 31493 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 14:55:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 14:55:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6EAE182E2 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C0EE24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FAA19E756 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:55:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCF619E765 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28290 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 14:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 16:55:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de0c5512521591313764 Just a large, collapsible, translucent reflector/filter placed in front of a sunlit window to provide an alternative to soft northern window light. Other options are sheer curtains, sheets, etc. The article is about making best use of ambient light for photographing families in their homes. In the case illustrated a child of about 18 months was photographed standing on a chair holding onto the back of the chair while supported by mom down low and behind. Also the entire family seated on the floor of their living room lit from the filtered window light. The author comments that he always looks for suitable windows and sun position to avoid hauling in all the lights if possible. If you're into portraiture, lighting, and PhotoShop you could do much, much worse than signing up for this weekly blurb. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Could you describe the "simple portrait light", Chuck? > > I don't fancy yet-another-internet-registration-that-will-get-me- > weekly-blurb :-) > > Chris > > On 8 Apr 2009, at 21:11, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Sorry, I should have mentioned that. I don't get it because I've been >> registered at that site for a long time. All it wants is your email >> address to send you some weekly photo related advertising blurbs and a >> handful of photo tips. Some of the photo tips are very good so I >> subscribe and ignore (most) of the advertising in the email. AFAIK >> they >> treat your email address as their own and don't hand it out. >> >> Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 16:56:33 2009 Received: (qmail 15552 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 14:56:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 14:56:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CAAE182E0 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01064E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F6319E74C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6003A19E76F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29055 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 14:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090408-0, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Zuiko Digital 9-18mm X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 16:56:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de0ca139069347015869 My Tamron 20-40 would turn that into a Kaleidoscope of color at 20mm. :-) Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > Well I decided to buy one, arrived a few days ago. I haven't done much > shooting with it yet but so far I'm very impressed with its lack of flare: > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/20090409-A-017-a.jpg > > @9mm f8 > > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 17:12:49 2009 Received: (qmail 10745 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 15:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 15:12:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE9E182DB for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B001E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3511B3610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E66A3610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:12:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f170.google.com (mail-ew0-f170.google.com [209.85.219.170]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so688867ewy.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.47.201 with SMTP id t51mr636544web.198.1239289961187; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.102? (cpc1-leed2-0-0-cust917.leed.cable.ntl.com [81.104.187.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm846679gvf.0.2009.04.09.08.12.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DE0A01.20904@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:12:28 +0100 References: <49DE0A01.20904@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Gallery Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 17:12:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de1071132231993019900 As I understand it, there are no implications for artistic or editorial uses. Flogging prints or dead horses, if you like. Use for flogging product probably more complicated. Tom Sent from my iPhone On 9 Apr 2009, at 15:45, Chuck wrote: > I note that many of your images contain what (though in public) are > nevertheless probably copyrighted images. What's the implication of > that for commercial use of your own images? > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Tom Fenwick wrote: >> Thanks to everyone who wished me well for my review yesterday. >> >> It was very encouraging and provided plenty of food for thought... >> Based on >> which I've put my Living the Dream folder in the shoebox and I now >> offer >> >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upa >> >> and >> >> http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upb >> >> This gives you some hints about what they liked best, and how I >> will be >> trying to work for the next few months (and possibly even two or >> three new >> images)... >> >> Very useful thing to have done. I'm still grinning about some of it. >> >> Tom > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 18:17:57 2009 Received: (qmail 14921 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 16:17:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 16:17:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E747E182FD for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF487E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4BE19E9D1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A56B19E9C8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:17:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so671690bwz.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:17:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.120.193 with SMTP id e1mr2349819bkr.147.1239293870101; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:17:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DE0C4D.2090507@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DE0C4D.2090507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:17:50 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a208f4678ad11d5e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 18:17:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de1fb570171529615919 > > Just a large, collapsible, translucent reflector/filter placed in front > of a sunlit window to provide an alternative to soft northern window > light. Other options are sheer curtains, sheets, etc. > Ah, so just a "natural" softbox? > The author comments that he always looks for suitable windows and sun > position to avoid hauling in all the lights if possible. > While I can appreciate this viewpoint (and I do the same thing quite often), it really isn't that big of a deal to lightstand a couple of strobes with umbrellas. One of my umbrellas is a "shoot-through" and also a smallish softbox I'll use with monolight. Nowadays, it's not uncommon at all for me to do location portrait shots with a pair of Vivitar 285HVs, wireless radio remotes, a pair of stands and a couple of umbrellas with swivel clamps. I can literally set up and have my basic lighting in about two minutes. And, yes, this type of speed has come in handy more than once. If you're into portraiture, lighting, and PhotoShop you could do much, > much worse than signing up for this weekly blurb. > Agreed, but my problem is that there are already too many sites I frequent... BTW, I'll be making up a new batch of them, but several sheets of white rip-stop nylon (go to your local fabric store) with sewn edges are great for making portable diffusers. I'm going to have one sewn onto a flexible hoop too. No need to spend $150 for the same thing that you can make your own for under $10. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 18:59:48 2009 Received: (qmail 18932 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 16:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 16:59:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DF2E182EE for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484F4E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374E319EAE1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2ADC19EAD1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A612E7EB73 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LDMpDA9lDlzw for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F66B2E7EB63 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2C1D7AB8-76DD-44C5-A307-274248AA8AAA@Bytesmiths.com> From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:59:38 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Free to good home: Olympus E-1 Brochure X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 18:59:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de298475831234514069 It's spoken for already. > From: Jan Steinman > > This is the silver-gray, 16 page brochure with many glossies of lenses > and a sweet babe on the inside cover. > > First come, first gets it. Reply privately with mailing address. I can > mail from the US between the 17th and the 24th, or from Canada any > time. :::: Dateline: April 15, 2020: President Jenna Bush announces foreign terrorist cells have been located near the Edmonton oil fields, and offers "assistance" to Canada in the form of 150,000 US troops, now massing along the border. :::: :::: Jan Steinman, http://www.EcoReality.org :::: -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 20:18:34 2009 Received: (qmail 28533 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 18:18:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 18:18:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478D5E182DC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A2BE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7960019EC3A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F32219EC3C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.152]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so553356yxn.80 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.137.12 with SMTP id k12mr610800and.124.1239301102700; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:18:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:18:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904091118w5cac64d5oc10c4ee1de68414c@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Gallery Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 20:18:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de3bfa308105368819438 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Tom Fenwick wrote: > Thanks to everyone who wished me well for my review yesterday. > > It was very encouraging and provided plenty of food for thought... =A0Bas= ed on > which I've put my Living the Dream folder in the shoebox and I now offer > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upa > > and > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upb I enjoyed looking at these again, re-cast in new galleries. They seemed to be interested in fairly obvious juxtapositioning, ironic or otherwise. Other than that, I'm wouldn't be exactly sure why some others were not included. > This gives you some hints about what they liked best, and how I will be > trying to work for the next few months (and possibly even two or three new > images)... > > Very useful thing to have done. =A0I'm still grinning about some of it. Do tell more ... :) Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 20:30:53 2009 Received: (qmail 11801 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 18:30:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 18:30:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5ECE182FC for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B4AE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC483610014 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B6C361000B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so557273yxn.80 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:30:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.202.8 with SMTP id z8mr777482anf.25.1239301847045; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:30:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> References: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:30:46 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904091130u15a95c23ua3f1decc004f3873@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 20:30:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de3edd6665368819438 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this week, > more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a > fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=224 Followed the link over to the Granada photos and enjoyed this one a lot: http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/content/20090404_L1003472_large.html Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 22:10:16 2009 Received: (qmail 15998 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 20:10:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 20:10:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546CFE1830A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1366EE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0725B3610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89655361000C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:10:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (super.wide@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so763557bwz.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:10:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.72.129 with SMTP id m1mr2565577bkj.61.1239307807299; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:10:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904091118w5cac64d5oc10c4ee1de68414c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0904091118w5cac64d5oc10c4ee1de68414c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:10:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tom Fenwick To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Gallery Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 22:10:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de5628224881744846740 2009/4/9 Joel Wilcox wrote: > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upa > > > > and > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tom_77/upb > > I enjoyed looking at these again, re-cast in new galleries. They > seemed to be interested in fairly obvious juxtapositioning, ironic or > otherwise. Other than that, I'm wouldn't be exactly sure why some > others were not included. I think perhaps looking at the prints would help. As well as the juxtapositions there is something going on with their favorites that doesn't come across so well in the small jpgs... The unreal elements look more real than the real ones, the bits that jump off the paper are the bits that were actually flat, and there are some dislocating effects while you figure out what you're really looking at. > > > > Very useful thing to have done. I'm still grinning about some of it. > > Do tell more ... :) Basically it was great to see them playing around with my photos, obviously enjoying it and enthusiatic, and keen to grab all the extras I'd taken in reserve in case they asked about certain things. I think the lesson is that one of the collections is worth working on carefully with the best glass - I want to see how far the printing can be pushed, while for the other one my snap-happy approach is more appropriate and adequate for likely uses... Tom > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 22:42:07 2009 Received: (qmail 20911 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 20:42:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 20:42:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514C8E1802B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F1CE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280C019EDA6 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1855219EDB6 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3594 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 20:41:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 20:41:59 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE5D97.5030507@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:41:59 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> <9e908c1f0904091130u15a95c23ua3f1decc004f3873@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904091130u15a95c23ua3f1decc004f3873@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 22:42:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de5d9f188561838542571 Yup, that's the one I liked (loved) too. The splashes of sunlight on the floor and the gold above make the shot. But the walls and columns are just leaning too far. They *need* to be fixed... like this: Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this week, >> more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a >> fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: >> >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=224 > > Followed the link over to the Granada photos and enjoyed this one a lot: > > http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/content/20090404_L1003472_large.html > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 22:46:40 2009 Received: (qmail 30234 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 20:46:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 20:46:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A525CE182F3 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7794E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4CE3610016 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FB73610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17521 invoked by uid 502); 9 Apr 2009 20:46:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.181.162) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 20:46:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE5E93.3090102@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:46:11 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 22:46:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de5eb0204702046811720 Rand E wrote: > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html?tag=nl.e550 > This was posted and discussed back when it was issued. In that thread, someone posted a similar pronouncement Oly had made about 5MP back when the E-1 was new. Not to say it can't be worked over again, but possibly to explain why it may not generate a lot of response the second time around. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 22:51:54 2009 Received: (qmail 22574 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 20:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 20:51:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641CDE182E3 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A61E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D340419EDFF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556DC19EDFD for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8847 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 20:51:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 20:51:48 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:51:46 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 22:51:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de5fea269822070262475 Good, good, good. There's more news here than the megapixel count. He also discusses live view and contrast detect autofocus. Now we need some really good very high resolution EVFs whose expense can be funded by getting rid of the mirror, prism and focusing screen and, just maybe, a mechanical shutter. Chuck Norcutt Rand E wrote: > http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-276512.html?tag=nl.e550 > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 22:57:40 2009 Received: (qmail 4736 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 20:57:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 20:57:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5459E182E3 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C905BE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA09719E761 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A1319EE0C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86011.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86011.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.10]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31227 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2009 20:57:32 -0000 Message-ID: <443401.30673.qm@web86011.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nA4VyikVM1mjapN26QUcMuFUR69nfN2T3yriWf3hsLyWcf0k3B.1GxoZTf2e9Ddau0TtjmkeUw2zAU68i5Y5jZ1TJIvqq4_SPlGqJpaezGKUKNapCuBkVF3cV486eNG49LEEmaEUAUH6UjbpwjgSi1n6trLqr59G.EuKoagnuzeoissQVvaWGO33h2PdpuJL7VhJ.ICE.gmI6dPncHFbmVC7TJsALBDKLAYcjAXDSWNpz9Cn.44EAVG3uYmWxdThd_kyCJXifK6.ij0oKPBlwFxdgwXs8opJbFnHv7sP4CZr.XpOspuZ Received: from [86.165.219.198] by web86011.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:57:31 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:57:31 +0000 (GMT) From: john.duggan10@btinternet.com To: Olympus mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Cameraquest site X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 22:57:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de614447731035110158 Hi all....in the spirit of enabling you all to spend money I would suggest = rangefinder fanatics=A0 check out Stephen Gandy's cameraQuest site. New Cosina 15 mm "M" lens and 15-35mm finder available late April. I have the original 15mm lens in Leica screw with a bayonet adapter and wou= ld not be without it. POVERTY WARNING!=A0 This was the lens - along with a Voigtlander R2 body wh= ich started my involvement with Leica cameras! I now have 2 Leica M6's, a Voigtlander R2, Voigtlander Bessa T and a number= of Leica and Cosina lenses. The 15mm is as good as any of the lenses I have for this system. Regards =A0 John Duggan, =A0 =A0=A0=A0Wales, UK = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 23:07:10 2009 Received: (qmail 22028 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 21:07:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 21:07:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2534EE182D9 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B03E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB2A3618009 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E803610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:07:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so782127fxm.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.64.130 with SMTP id e2mr2608523bki.64.1239311221734; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:07:01 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 29ec8970c48b3439 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 23:07:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de637e7111993019900 > > Good, good, good. There's more news here than the megapixel count. He > also discusses live view and contrast detect autofocus. Now we need > some really good very high resolution EVFs whose expense can be funded > by getting rid of the mirror, prism and focusing screen and, just maybe, > a mechanical shutter. I'd be happy with an aperture ring. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 23:18:37 2009 Received: (qmail 25504 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 21:18:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 21:18:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB83E182F9 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C71E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7135419EE47 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:18:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA5B19EE45 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24296 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2009 21:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 21:18:30 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE6625.4090404@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:18:29 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 23:18:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de662d197301470116606 Granted. It'll be on the front of the lens. Depth of field and hyperfocal distances to be reported in the EVF. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> Good, good, good. There's more news here than the megapixel count. He >> also discusses live view and contrast detect autofocus. Now we need >> some really good very high resolution EVFs whose expense can be funded >> by getting rid of the mirror, prism and focusing screen and, just maybe, >> a mechanical shutter. > > > > I'd be happy with an aperture ring. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Apr 9 23:20:09 2009 Received: (qmail 30428 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 21:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 21:20:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0DEE182D4 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FF8E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE9219EE4B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A5819EE47 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.86]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 55846 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2009 21:19:58 -0000 Message-ID: <472964.49433.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nlCeu9YVM1m.RHaUgobVsQh2yOoqXboFiJ4vOhCjTboEywm0bLpQfv7U.Q7JHnht52v35h4.gL33knv89LqD_0rJoHTiWfHB8pYa8ZJ3bHfUr_Rs7qV.IwcfaSM..q2SyZlhO7UHtPy_.4MCdaN5_S88SjQ.lhFh_rLAhtTI_CIbEVnXCl3MPkMba8QbCvL9dAHgyd3i6cnj0bCIgbo7VPWjMg0g2QBAJtD2r65HVqj4pEtXvOXg.ynNt4sTCjzf_hPMpJmL6HruQAmAGBTKpnuKBOEDRbxQdMGaRoGMqhuG5ibsTTGS Received: from [86.165.219.198] by web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:19:58 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:19:58 +0000 (GMT) From: john.duggan10@btinternet.com To: Olympus mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Hong Kong X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 9 23:20:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de6689320531023412894 PHEWWWWWW! =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Last week I returned home from a MANIC trip to Hong Kon= g, watching the Hong Kong Sevens. First imressions...in no particular order= .... Bars open 24-7. Amazing new buildings springing up everywhere. Joined up public transport system. = Bamboo scaffolding used EVEN on skyscrapers. Skyscrapers built on hillsides and rocky outcrops on Hong Kong island. Beautiful scenery Bars open 24-7 serving good Guinness. Check in for Hong Kong airport at Kowloon train station! Very practical. More bars... Very friendly people...Never felt threatened. Cheap taxis. Brilliant view of Hong Kong from the Inclined railway terminal at night, Ev= en for a Vertigo sufferer like me. Overcast sky...Very disappointing. Many many contrasts, too much to take in on one visit...MUST go again. Did I mention the Guinness at the Sevens? Took a Canon 40D..most of my photo's taken with a Tokina 12-24mm lens. Very= good combination BUT very heavy. = Ps, Thanks C.H.Ling for advice. Regards =A0 John Duggan, =A0 =A0=A0=A0Wales, UK = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 00:10:50 2009 Received: (qmail 9963 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 22:10:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 22:10:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D397AE1830E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F911E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C43C19EEB9 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B963519EEA8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7892 invoked by uid 502); 9 Apr 2009 22:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.195.231) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 22:10:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE725D.8020709@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:10:37 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <472964.49433.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <472964.49433.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Hong Kong X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 00:10:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de726a53011023412894 john.duggan10@btinternet.com wrote: > PHEWWWWWW! > Last week I returned home from a MANIC trip to Hong Kong, watching the Hong Kong Sevens. First imressions...in no particular order....... > Took a Canon 40D..most of my photo's taken with a Tokina 12-24mm lens. Very good combination BUT very heavy. > Dpreview just posted their review of this lens. Read it and be glad you had it, a bit heavy or not, rather than the alternatives. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 00:13:28 2009 Received: (qmail 16415 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 22:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 22:13:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15DBE182D0 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33215E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137F619EEB9 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:13:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D2719EEA8 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9423 invoked by uid 502); 9 Apr 2009 22:13:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.195.231) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 22:13:21 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:13:16 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 00:13:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de730875341702588592 Ken Norton wrote: > > I'd be happy with an aperture ring. > I could send you one. I've got a couple of spares on defunct lenses. Nothing very fast, though. > AG > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 00:35:29 2009 Received: (qmail 11537 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 22:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 22:35:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72CBE18309 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09D0E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E9A3610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBC1361000C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so808561bwz.14 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:35:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.31.230 with SMTP id z38mr2647345bkc.85.1239316520202; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:35:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:35:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fe1f6fa69876dc45 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 00:35:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de7831243145368819438 > > I could send you one. I've got a couple of spares on defunct lenses. > Nothing very fast, though. > Bummer. I was hoping it would be attached to a perfect Zuiko 90/2. JUST KIDDING FOLKS! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 01:03:05 2009 Received: (qmail 19182 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 23:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:03:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F19E182F1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442D6E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2685219EF57 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B277219EF56 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:02:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5153 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2009 23:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:02:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <443401.30673.qm@web86011.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <443401.30673.qm@web86011.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <71C9C110-EF6C-4596-AF31-BB3E7472B6D8@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:02:54 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Cameraquest site X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 01:03:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de7ea9240291234514069 And with an adapter, it'll fit on Micro 4/3rds! :-) Only as a slow 30mm of course - what a waste. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/04/2009, at 6:57 AM, john.duggan10@btinternet.com wrote: > > Hi all....in the spirit of enabling you all to spend money I would > suggest rangefinder fanatics check out Stephen Gandy's cameraQuest > site. > New Cosina 15 mm "M" lens and 15-35mm finder available late April. > > I have the original 15mm lens in Leica screw with a bayonet adapter > and would not be without it. > POVERTY WARNING! This was the lens - along with a Voigtlander R2 > body which started my involvement with Leica cameras! > I now have 2 Leica M6's, a Voigtlander R2, Voigtlander Bessa T and > a number of Leica and Cosina lenses. > The 15mm is as good as any of the lenses I have for this system. > Regards > John Duggan, > Wales, UK > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 01:04:45 2009 Received: (qmail 19187 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 23:04:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:04:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F853E18302 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A389E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F349361000B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:04:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1AD3610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:04:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5200 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2009 23:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:04:31 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> Message-Id: <62111C91-F874-41BF-9861-54FD6CF788AA@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:04:35 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 01:04:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de7f0d256211023412894 Yeah, they make rather spiffy bracelets. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/04/2009, at 8:13 AM, Moose wrote: > Ken Norton wrote: >> >> I'd be happy with an aperture ring. >> > > I could send you one. I've got a couple of spares on defunct lenses. > Nothing very fast, though. >> AG >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 01:20:39 2009 Received: (qmail 1236 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 23:20:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:20:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB781E182F2 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE063E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4752361000B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621203610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16975 invoked by uid 502); 9 Apr 2009 23:20:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.199.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 23:20:32 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE82BA.70502@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:20:26 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 01:20:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de82c7128749117217770 Ken Norton wrote: >> I could send you one. I've got a couple of spares on defunct lenses. >> Nothing very fast, though. > > Bummer. I was hoping it would be attached to a perfect Zuiko 90/2. > > JUST KIDDING FOLKS! > Yeah, he must be. He knows my opinion of the 90/2 and that mine moved on long ago, taking the aperture ring with it. The rear ring location on the 90/2 would go nicely with the one on the 35-80/2.8, I suppose. Minimize fumbling. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 01:21:39 2009 Received: (qmail 4479 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 23:21:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:21:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FD0E182F9 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63B0E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C898519EF6F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD9419EF6B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17520 invoked by uid 502); 9 Apr 2009 23:21:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.199.164) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Apr 2009 23:21:33 -0000 Message-ID: <49DE82F7.2080007@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:21:27 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DDEDA4.6000303@verizon.net> <49DE5FE2.8070309@chucknorcutt.com> <49DE72FC.1070108@gmail.com> <62111C91-F874-41BF-9861-54FD6CF788AA@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <62111C91-F874-41BF-9861-54FD6CF788AA@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] from Olympus "Twelve megapixels is, I think, enough......" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 01:21:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de83031491023412894 Andrew Fildes wrote: > Yeah, they make rather spiffy bracelets. > Ooooh, I hadn't thought of that. Now where is that junk box ... Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 01:33:26 2009 Received: (qmail 20811 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 2009 23:33:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Apr 2009 23:33:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C5CE182E1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD821E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57323610002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049803648003 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:33:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86010.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86010.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 34726 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 2009 23:33:17 -0000 Message-ID: <271145.33135.qm@web86010.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7s5MNMMVM1mvn6vXxJrlZyhvtUPoghpn0c9M5ari7n_pto_KrHbp8ltl9JosiM1LJawr1K3zn5Cng0BIWVrmZ8ABPD1C3Pbf4xh0_CgUyGEqFsh91iYWvAF4VW1VQ2mQjny8YsIurF5TD7ut5d52fU5byWFqo1surH8.AjuutGHvemX6LhIwlYn9eRYyqCC5gWmFhtVWjeO6ycr05z5caOQX2XBi8PajTIifJ55dJLgUHQJ4SooYoZPpKyrqmpxb.UeWl.1RwJxFggMGzpUqV7FYAOME2cv5InTdafBKjpxIbq3ncyWf Received: from [86.165.219.198] by web86010.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:33:16 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.15 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 23:33:16 +0000 (GMT) From: john.duggan10@btinternet.com To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Hong Kong X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 01:33:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de85c6118563675314703 Thanks for that "heads up" on the lens Moose. Review bears out my experience with this lens. Far better "feel" to this lens compared to the Sigma. Robust and quality feel. Sigma feels very tacky by comparison. You soon learn not to use this lens shooting into the light! However flare is a general problem with wides. Some fringing can be found if you are going to be really picky..although not a problem in B+W. My local photo dealer let me do an extensive road test o the Sigma and Tokina and it was "no contest" My lens is the MK1 version and I can strongly recommend it for real world photography. ........................................................................... > > Took a Canon 40D..most of my photo's taken with a > Tokina 12-24mm lens. Very good combination BUT very heavy. ............................................................................ > Dpreview just posted their review of this lens. Read it and > be glad you > had it, a bit heavy or not, rather than the alternatives. > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 02:37:15 2009 Received: (qmail 1179 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 00:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 00:37:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F36E18310 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EBAE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C322119F012 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB8D19F010 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 17:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3A0b0LK026927 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:37:00 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <472964.49433.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:36:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Hong Kong X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 02:37:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49de94bb203397927319144 John, you seems enjoyed your trip very much, congratulations. The overcast sky is not that nice for some scenery but may be good for street shoots as contrast is lower. Looking forward for your photos from this trip, I enjoy seeing different viewing angles from foreign visitors :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Olympus mailing list" Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:19 AM Subject: [OM] Hong Kong PHEWWWWWW! Last week I returned home from a MANIC trip to Hong Kong, watching the Hong Kong Sevens. First imressions...in no particular order.... Bars open 24-7. Amazing new buildings springing up everywhere. Joined up public transport system. Bamboo scaffolding used EVEN on skyscrapers. Skyscrapers built on hillsides and rocky outcrops on Hong Kong island. Beautiful scenery Bars open 24-7 serving good Guinness. Check in for Hong Kong airport at Kowloon train station! Very practical. More bars... Very friendly people...Never felt threatened. Cheap taxis. Brilliant view of Hong Kong from the Inclined railway terminal at night, Even for a Vertigo sufferer like me. Overcast sky...Very disappointing. Many many contrasts, too much to take in on one visit...MUST go again. Did I mention the Guinness at the Sevens? Took a Canon 40D..most of my photo's taken with a Tokina 12-24mm lens. Very good combination BUT very heavy. Ps, Thanks C.H.Ling for advice. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 06:18:31 2009 Received: (qmail 32591 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 04:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 04:18:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD084E18305 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C0EE2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C133419F204 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715A219F202 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFCB31408C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C25131408A for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:18:20 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 06:18:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dec897323751946193717 Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still paint abstracts with it I guess. http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 06:58:19 2009 Received: (qmail 20167 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 04:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 04:58:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD41E182E6 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5986E2412E for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740819F25F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:58:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB83619F256 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:58:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 14 days 14:59:01 ago / 195.8.64.2 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.2]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.red-81-35-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.76.139]:55641 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay01.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.41]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Ls8oZ-0001II-5e (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:58:08 +0000 Message-Id: <381D286A-CF4D-44B0-9826-DB123AFD36F1@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DE5D97.5030507@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:58:07 +0200 References: <6E519844-CB2F-42B6-85F1-B4CAFCF66220@frozenlight.eu> <9e908c1f0904091130u15a95c23ua3f1decc004f3873@mail.gmail.com> <49DE5D97.5030507@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAW 13: Sierra Nevada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 06:58:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ded1eb66589347015869 Thanks for looking and fixing, Chuck! I must admit I am not exactly world champion at holding my Zeiss 18mm straight. What did you use to make the correction? Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Apr 9, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yup, that's the one I liked (loved) too. The splashes of sunlight on > the floor and the gold above make the shot. But the walls and columns > are just leaning too far. They *need* to be fixed... like this: > > > Chuck Norcutt > > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Nathan Wajsman >> wrote: >>> A somewhat atypical PAW for me...no street people pictures this >>> week, >>> more like beautiful mountain views. However, there is also a Kwak, a >>> fearsome guard dog and two sleepy teenagers: >>> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=224 >> >> Followed the link over to the Granada photos and enjoyed this one a >> lot: >> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/content/20090404_L1003472_large.html >> >> Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 07:16:19 2009 Received: (qmail 22497 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 05:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 05:16:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00DCE182FA for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39958E24130 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB886361000C for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:16:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186F23610001 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:16:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2009 22:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n3A5G93N017837 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:16:11 GMT Message-ID: <0DFCEF2F4144435796F053B0E5084541@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:16:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 07:16:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49ded6233891035110158 Mike, I tried the same thing with my E-510 and my 135/3.5 Takumar. Focusing is a challenge, but the results are worth the trouble. Here is one shot from my gallery. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Rose+532.tif.html Thanks for reminding me. I will have to try a few more outings. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" To: "1" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 > Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the > peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still > paint abstracts with it I guess. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 09:23:25 2009 Received: (qmail 28319 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 07:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 07:23:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2D4E1830D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B591E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D843610002 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08B33610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id djNp1b0010b6N64A6jPFmJ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:23:15 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.20.254.166]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id djPE1b00G3cAhRk8PjPFhz; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:23:15 +0000 Message-ID: <08E08826F6CA4953A6868A29C1D268B8@daingtanfxkwk9> From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:23:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 09:23:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49def3ed34551234514069 Great photo Mike! I love those Red Flowering Currants, beautiful. Darin Mike Lazzari wrote: > Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the > peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still > paint abstracts with it I guess. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 11:38:05 2009 Received: (qmail 15071 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 09:38:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 09:38:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5BE182E7 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7BBE24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2B63610002 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:37:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D133610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:37:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-186.ctimail.com [61.93.57.186]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n3A9buvC007222 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:37:56 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3A9btxb013964 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:37:55 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:37:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 11:38:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df137d297651035110158 Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best bokeh. It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" > Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the > peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still > paint abstracts with it I guess. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg > > Mike > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 11:56:07 2009 Received: (qmail 5751 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 09:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 09:56:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB31E18306 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B05E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213133610002 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49623610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so459014waf.14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.18.3 with SMTP id v3mr1862834wai.32.1239357362425; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:56:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> From: Marc Lawrence Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:55:47 +1000 Message-ID: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 11:56:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df17b7248962336821329 2009/4/10 C.H.Ling : > Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best bokeh. > It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. > > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm I must admit, flower photos are not something I'm normally all that interested (I'm probably just self-conscious of my own poor efforts). However, these are all quite beautiful. I'm particular fond of these three: http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2194.html http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2278.html http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2365.html The rain in that last makes it magic for me. Cheers, Marc Noosa Heads, Oz http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 14:29:03 2009 Received: (qmail 30075 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 12:29:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 12:29:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75382E18312 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660D0E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4648634AC01E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:28:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8B334AC025 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:28:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28165 invoked by uid 504); 10 Apr 2009 12:28:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: a walk in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 14:29:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df3b8f104817350615338 Since you've asked on-list as well as off I'm posting the same response here below that I sent you privately. Chuck Norcut --------------------------------------------- Use Edit => Transform => Perspective (or Distort). Pull the sides of the image window out away from the image about 25% on each side so you have some room to work outside the bounds of the image. You will see that there is a bounding box drawn around the image. Change the perspective by pulling or pushing the corners of the box outside of or inside of the image. If you are using the "Perspective" transform both sides of the box will move together and apply equal correction on both sides. If you are using the "Distort" transform each side will move independently. In a recent post Moose commented that he preferred the Distort transform because sometimes it helps to be able to apply slightly different transforms on either side. I agree. But I would suggest you try the Perspective transform first. Then, after you see what it does when you pull the top right corner straight out, cancel out and switch to Distort and adjust each side individually to... what just looks right. Vertical perspective is altered by pushing the corners at top or bottom horizontally in or out. Horizontal perspective is altered by pushing the corners up or down. Rarely an image may require both. But we expect to see horizontal perspective as the image recedes to the "vanishing point". So use horizontal perspective control sparingly if at all. When you took this shot the camera was pointing upward causing the top to angle in. To correct it pull the top corners outward. Had you been at a high vantage point and were pointing the camera down the image would angle in at the bottom rather than the top. In that case pull the bottom corners outward. You can also make corrections in the opposite direction by pushing the corners inside of the image. But if you do that you will be overlaying the original image area and will need to crop the final output. Finally, note that both the Perspective and Distort transforms have a center "handle" at the sides of the bounding box. The Perspective transform doesn't allow you to do anything with that. The Distort transform will allow you to evenly squeeze or expand the width or height of the image by pushing or pulling the center handle. To avoid vertical perspective distortion when shooting the camera must be level. To avoid horizontal perspective distortion the image plane must be square to the subject. Generally, watch the vertical but don't sweat the horizontal. Hope that helps. If it's not clear ask away. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > As I said on the Oly list, I agree with you and really like your > correction. I must admit that my Photoshop skills are not sufficient to > make such a fix--so if you can tell me how you did it, I would > appreciate it. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> I very much like "pews" but it's calling out to be corrected. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>> Last weekend I took the family skiing in Sierra Nevada. Since I don't >>> ski, I used Saturday to drive to nearby Granada and have a walk around >>> that city, my first visit there. As usual, a small gallery of somewhat >>> eclectic images is the result: >>> >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/ >>> >>> I did not get to the Alhambra, the queue was too long. That will have >>> to wait for the next visit, and there will certainly be one--I found >>> Granada to be an extremely interesting city. >>> >>> As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 14:36:35 2009 Received: (qmail 29469 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 12:36:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 12:36:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E08E182E1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0576E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B017034AC01E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:36:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF8D34AC024 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:36:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32117 invoked by uid 504); 10 Apr 2009 12:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 14:36:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df3d53241891234514069 Lovely and I'd love to have one. But I know I can't focus it. The old eyes are getting to be a real problem. I just realized yesterday that my reading, computer and bi-focal glasses, all made only about 6-8 months ago are really not working all that well on the left eye. The computer glasses, which were originally computed for a 20" viewing distance are now down to about 18" on the right and only about 12" on the left. No wonder I can't focus anything. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: > Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the > peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still > paint abstracts with it I guess. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 15:00:54 2009 Received: (qmail 16335 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 13:00:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 13:00:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F5BE182DB for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610E5E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3B734AC024 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:00:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C2234AC029 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:00:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16209 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2009 13:00:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.177.16) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 13:00:38 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DF3B80.1040108@chucknorcutt.com> References: <49DDD3C0.6080602@chucknorcutt.com> <34C7BDA6-7F13-4FF0-B7C8-2F36849848DF@frozenlight.eu> <49DF3B80.1040108@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <876B4EEC-1F30-42F9-B1CA-2E999CE47333@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:00:40 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: a walk in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 15:00:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df43069681838542571 There's a theory that it's better to compress than stretch as it's less 'lossy - requires less interpolation of 'new' pixels. Don't know if it's true or merely plausible. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 10/04/2009, at 10:28 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Since you've asked on-list as well as off I'm posting the same > response > here below that I sent you privately. > > Chuck Norcut > --------------------------------------------- > > Use Edit => Transform => Perspective (or Distort). Pull the sides of > the image window out away from the image about 25% on each side so you > have some room to work outside the bounds of the image. > > You will see that there is a bounding box drawn around the image. > Change the perspective by pulling or pushing the corners of the box > outside of or inside of the image. If you are using the "Perspective" > transform both sides of the box will move together and apply equal > correction on both sides. If you are using the "Distort" transform > each > side will move independently. In a recent post Moose commented > that he > preferred the Distort transform because sometimes it helps to be > able to > apply slightly different transforms on either side. I agree. But I > would suggest you try the Perspective transform first. Then, after > you > see what it does when you pull the top right corner straight out, > cancel > out and switch to Distort and adjust each side individually to... what > just looks right. > > Vertical perspective is altered by pushing the corners at top or > bottom > horizontally in or out. Horizontal perspective is altered by pushing > the corners up or down. Rarely an image may require both. But we > expect to see horizontal perspective as the image recedes to the > "vanishing point". So use horizontal perspective control sparingly if > at all. > > When you took this shot the camera was pointing upward causing the top > to angle in. To correct it pull the top corners outward. Had you been > at a high vantage point and were pointing the camera down the image > would angle in at the bottom rather than the top. In that case > pull the > bottom corners outward. You can also make corrections in the opposite > direction by pushing the corners inside of the image. But if you do > that you will be overlaying the original image area and will need to > crop the final output. Finally, note that both the Perspective and > Distort transforms have a center "handle" at the sides of the bounding > box. The Perspective transform doesn't allow you to do anything with > that. The Distort transform will allow you to evenly squeeze or > expand > the width or height of the image by pushing or pulling the center > handle. > > To avoid vertical perspective distortion when shooting the camera must > be level. To avoid horizontal perspective distortion the image plane > must be square to the subject. Generally, watch the vertical but > don't > sweat the horizontal. > > Hope that helps. If it's not clear ask away. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > > Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Hi Chuck, >> >> As I said on the Oly list, I agree with you and really like your >> correction. I must admit that my Photoshop skills are not >> sufficient to >> make such a fix--so if you can tell me how you did it, I would >> appreciate it. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> I very much like "pews" but it's calling out to be corrected. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>> Last weekend I took the family skiing in Sierra Nevada. Since I >>>> don't >>>> ski, I used Saturday to drive to nearby Granada and have a walk >>>> around >>>> that city, my first visit there. As usual, a small gallery of >>>> somewhat >>>> eclectic images is the result: >>>> >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/ >>>> >>>> I did not get to the Alhambra, the queue was too long. That will >>>> have >>>> to wait for the next visit, and there will certainly be one--I >>>> found >>>> Granada to be an extremely interesting city. >>>> >>>> As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. >>>> >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>> Alicante, Spain >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>> >>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> >> >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 15:07:19 2009 Received: (qmail 28266 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 13:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 13:07:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695A3E182FA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF639E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0CF34AC024 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0F34AC01E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jim.timpe@fluke.com whitelisted) Received: from dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com [129.196.250.31]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com (dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com [172.29.152.76]) by dhrseasvgw03.danahermail.com (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 8896F8582X for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhrseasvxb04.messaging.danaherad.com ([172.29.152.79]) by dhrseasvxf02.messaging.danaherad.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2499); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:07:10 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:06:38 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 Thread-Index: Acm5wpSxmwc9dVPqRIuZyqbaaxrA9wAGmE+Q From: "Timpe, Jim" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Apr 2009 13:07:10.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[420D03F0:01C9B9DD] Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 15:07:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df4487188323675314703 >However, these are all quite beautiful. I'm particular fond of these three: >http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2194.html >http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2278.html >http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2365.html >The rain in that last makes it magic for me. >Marc Gorgeous. Your inhibitions certainly aren't very well founded. Great shots. Jim -- Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or re-transmit this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and by telephone (call us collect at +1 202-828-0850) and delete this message and any attachments. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and assistance. 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(chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Apr 2009 13:36:50 -0000 Message-ID: <49DF4B72.5010904@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:36:50 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DDD3C0.6080602@chucknorcutt.com> <34C7BDA6-7F13-4FF0-B7C8-2F36849848DF@frozenlight.eu> <49DF3B80.1040108@chucknorcutt.com> <876B4EEC-1F30-42F9-B1CA-2E999CE47333@people.net.au> In-Reply-To: <876B4EEC-1F30-42F9-B1CA-2E999CE47333@people.net.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: a walk in Granada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 15:37:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df4b7c55961234514069 I suppose it depends on how many pixels you've got and how large a print you might produce. One could also do some of both. But if you compress (at least with PhotoShop) you'll have to take care of the cropping yourself. Picture Window Pro is smarter in that respect and makes the cropping automatic. Chuck Norcutt Andrew Fildes wrote: > There's a theory that it's better to compress than stretch as it's > less 'lossy - requires less interpolation of 'new' pixels. Don't know > if it's true or merely plausible. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 10/04/2009, at 10:28 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Since you've asked on-list as well as off I'm posting the same >> response >> here below that I sent you privately. >> >> Chuck Norcut >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> Use Edit => Transform => Perspective (or Distort). Pull the sides of >> the image window out away from the image about 25% on each side so you >> have some room to work outside the bounds of the image. >> >> You will see that there is a bounding box drawn around the image. >> Change the perspective by pulling or pushing the corners of the box >> outside of or inside of the image. If you are using the "Perspective" >> transform both sides of the box will move together and apply equal >> correction on both sides. If you are using the "Distort" transform >> each >> side will move independently. In a recent post Moose commented >> that he >> preferred the Distort transform because sometimes it helps to be >> able to >> apply slightly different transforms on either side. I agree. But I >> would suggest you try the Perspective transform first. Then, after >> you >> see what it does when you pull the top right corner straight out, >> cancel >> out and switch to Distort and adjust each side individually to... what >> just looks right. >> >> Vertical perspective is altered by pushing the corners at top or >> bottom >> horizontally in or out. Horizontal perspective is altered by pushing >> the corners up or down. Rarely an image may require both. But we >> expect to see horizontal perspective as the image recedes to the >> "vanishing point". So use horizontal perspective control sparingly if >> at all. >> >> When you took this shot the camera was pointing upward causing the top >> to angle in. To correct it pull the top corners outward. Had you been >> at a high vantage point and were pointing the camera down the image >> would angle in at the bottom rather than the top. In that case >> pull the >> bottom corners outward. You can also make corrections in the opposite >> direction by pushing the corners inside of the image. But if you do >> that you will be overlaying the original image area and will need to >> crop the final output. Finally, note that both the Perspective and >> Distort transforms have a center "handle" at the sides of the bounding >> box. The Perspective transform doesn't allow you to do anything with >> that. The Distort transform will allow you to evenly squeeze or >> expand >> the width or height of the image by pushing or pulling the center >> handle. >> >> To avoid vertical perspective distortion when shooting the camera must >> be level. To avoid horizontal perspective distortion the image plane >> must be square to the subject. Generally, watch the vertical but >> don't >> sweat the horizontal. >> >> Hope that helps. If it's not clear ask away. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> >> Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>> Hi Chuck, >>> >>> As I said on the Oly list, I agree with you and really like your >>> correction. I must admit that my Photoshop skills are not >>> sufficient to >>> make such a fix--so if you can tell me how you did it, I would >>> appreciate it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:53 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> >>>> I very much like "pews" but it's calling out to be corrected. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>>> Last weekend I took the family skiing in Sierra Nevada. Since I >>>>> don't >>>>> ski, I used Saturday to drive to nearby Granada and have a walk >>>>> around >>>>> that city, my first visit there. As usual, a small gallery of >>>>> somewhat >>>>> eclectic images is the result: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/granada0409/ >>>>> >>>>> I did not get to the Alhambra, the queue was too long. That will >>>>> have >>>>> to wait for the next visit, and there will certainly be one--I >>>>> found >>>>> Granada to be an extremely interesting city. >>>>> >>>>> As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>> >>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 16:05:22 2009 Received: (qmail 24596 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 14:05:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 14:05:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEC7E18317 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE7DE2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA7A34AC025 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47B234AC01E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3AE5DIS024059 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:05:13 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <304C284832CC49C9B0E98BA0F1DA92ED@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net><1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:04:57 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 16:05:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df522221621470116606 Thanks for looking and the comments, Marc. These three images are also my most favorite ones although the rain on the last one was artificial :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Lawrence" > 2009/4/10 C.H.Ling : >> Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best bokeh. >> It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm > > I must admit, flower photos are not something I'm normally all that > interested (I'm probably just self-conscious of my own poor efforts). > However, these are all quite beautiful. I'm particular fond of these > three: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2194.html > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2278.html > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2365.html > > The rain in that last makes it magic for me. > > Cheers, > Marc > Noosa Heads, Oz > http://www.parknmeter.com/gallery -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 16:06:23 2009 Received: (qmail 20000 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 14:06:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 14:06:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FA9E182EF for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B125E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770B719E6FA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:06:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82D019E6ED for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:06:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3AE6Gdd024174 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:06:16 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <9AF1E3EDFA2C44EBB7591A8156498EB3@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:05:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 16:06:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df525f102462070262475 Thanks for the kind words, Jim. When you can spend three hours with all these beautiful flowers from all over the world you may get something even better. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timpe, Jim" > >However, these are all quite beautiful. I'm particular fond of these > three: >>http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2194.html >>http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2278.html >>http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2365.html >>The rain in that last makes it magic for me. >>Marc > > > Gorgeous. Your inhibitions certainly aren't very well founded. Great > shots. > Jim -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 19:09:17 2009 Received: (qmail 7034 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 17:09:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 17:09:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54153E182FD for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0604EE24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6A519EBE9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4312619EBC6 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([94.224.139.19]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id dt981b0030RJCnS0Jt98nM; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:09:08 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> From: Iwert Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:09:06 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 19:09:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df7d3d189161591313764 We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll have to fiddle a bit with that yet! Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 19:10:02 2009 Received: (qmail 28128 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 17:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 17:10:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD5FE182E1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6E6E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E52319EB7F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0E819EBE9 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 25 days 21:34:12 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-20-162.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.20.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3AH9fh8028330 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:09:42 -0300 Message-ID: <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:09:50 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> In-Reply-To: <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 19:10:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df7d6a181361744846740 Beautiful photographs, beautiful flowers. Last November I didn't know what to do on these, so I made two shots @5,6 - too windy. One is focused near, and the other far. Still I don't know which I like best, but I feel more inclined to the one focused farther. Perhaps this list would be willing to make out my mind :-) Yes, I realized colors are not the same, but this time I'm bugged by a DOF aesthetic question. There's a link to view them on black, also another to view them big (1280). near ----> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429517492/ far ----> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429519412/ OM 4 spot reading mode, Provia 100F. TIA Fernando. C.H.Ling wrote: > Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best bokeh. > It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. > > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Lazzari" > > >> Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the >> peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still >> paint abstracts with it I guess. >> >> http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg >> >> Mike >> -- >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 20:20:48 2009 Received: (qmail 28239 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 18:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 18:20:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDD9E182DF for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD1BE24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD2D3610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4665361000D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15446 invoked by uid 504); 10 Apr 2009 18:20:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Apr 2009 18:20:39 -0000 Message-ID: <49DF8DF6.4020303@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:20:38 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 20:20:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df8e00171831234514069 No question in my mind... far, since it puts the center of the flower in focus. But the large version would benefit from some sharpening. Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Beautiful photographs, beautiful flowers. > > Last November I didn't know what to do on these, so I made two shots > @5,6 - too windy. > > One is focused near, and the other far. Still I don't know which I like > best, but I feel more inclined to the one focused farther. > > Perhaps this list would be willing to make out my mind :-) > > Yes, I realized colors are not the same, but this time I'm bugged by a > DOF aesthetic question. > > There's a link to view them on black, also another to view them big (1280). > > near ----> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429517492/ > > far ----> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429519412/ > > OM 4 spot reading mode, Provia 100F. > > TIA > > Fernando. > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best bokeh. >> It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Lazzari" >> >> >>> Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer the >>> peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can still >>> paint abstracts with it I guess. >>> >>> http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg >>> >>> Mike >>> -- >>> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 20:25:35 2009 Received: (qmail 26196 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 18:25:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 18:25:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9102E182F6 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8C4E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74733610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE6B3610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18579 invoked by uid 504); 10 Apr 2009 18:25:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Apr 2009 18:25:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:25:27 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 20:25:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df8f1f282861234514069 Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees these. :-) Chuck Norcutt Iwert wrote: > We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, > so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) > > All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 > > authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> > > Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the > difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll > have to fiddle a bit with that yet! > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 21:22:35 2009 Received: (qmail 22976 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 19:22:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 19:22:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF49E1830A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E483E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B8C361000B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:22:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984FC3610002 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 25 days 23:46:42 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-6-168.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.6.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3AJM45P004696 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:22:05 -0300 Message-ID: <49DF9C66.9000709@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:22:14 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> <49DF8DF6.4020303@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49DF8DF6.4020303@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 21:22:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df9c7b51661702588592 Fine, Chuck. I couldn't give a reason why I preferred the one I had focused far. Had shot the other one first but didn't feel it was properly composed. So I framed again and made the 'far' shot, you can see there is a different tilt in either frame. Agree on the sharpening issue too, but I can explain its lack of. Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > No question in my mind... far, since it puts the center of the flower in > focus. But the large version would benefit from some sharpening. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 21:35:06 2009 Received: (qmail 29313 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 19:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 19:35:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0849E182DB for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83E1E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7E119F4BB for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01D619F4C1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:35:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([94.224.139.19]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id dvay1b0010RJCnS0JvayMP; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:34:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> Message-Id: <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> From: Iwert Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:34:55 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 21:35:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49df9f6a73671993019900 Thanks Chuck, and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! Iwert Op 10-apr-09, om 20:25 heeft Chuck Norcutt het volgende geschreven: > Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be > even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without > benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees > these. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Iwert wrote: >> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >> >> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >> >> > authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >> >> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >> >> Iwert > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Apr 10 22:58:33 2009 Received: (qmail 8437 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 20:58:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 20:58:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5086AE1819D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B486E24130 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AEA3610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6EE3610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9862 invoked by uid 504); 10 Apr 2009 20:58:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Apr 2009 20:58:25 -0000 Message-ID: <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:58:24 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090409-0, 04/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Apr 10 22:58:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfb2f9184497350615338 Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) Chuck Norcutt Iwert wrote: > Thanks Chuck, > > and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! > > Iwert > > > Op 10-apr-09, om 20:25 heeft Chuck Norcutt het volgende geschreven: > >> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be >> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >> these. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Iwert wrote: >>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >>> >>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >>> >>> >> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>> >>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>> >>> Iwert >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 00:19:23 2009 Received: (qmail 21442 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 22:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 22:19:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B8AE182E2 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B985E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89009361000E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:19:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 2.711 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.711 required=7 tests=[FU_COMMON_SUBS2=2.057, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66370361000B for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 26 days 02:43:31 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-4-153.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.4.153]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3AMJ1Jo014538 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:19:01 -0300 Message-ID: <49DFC5DF.4020606@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:19:11 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 00:19:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfc5eb243171234514069 Me too, I am impressed, fwiw. Joking: here you have an anti-Hombroich photograph :-) - Any straight line or symmetry is mere coincidence, as is any properly placed item in the landscape. (handheld, OM 2n, 21mm F = 1:3,5 @8, Olympus 49mm linear polarizer, Provia 100F) Title: Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse. small: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3427721820/ large: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3427721820/sizes/o/ Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the > affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Iwert wrote: > >> Thanks Chuck, >> >> and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! >> >> Iwert >> >> >> Op 10-apr-09, om 20:25 heeft Chuck Norcutt het volgende geschreven: >> >> >>> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be >>> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >>> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >>> these. :-) >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Iwert wrote: >>> >>>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >>>> >>>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >>>> >>>> >>> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>>> >>>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >>>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>>> >>>> Iwert >>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 00:26:49 2009 Received: (qmail 363 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 22:26:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 22:26:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EBDE182F3 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5828BE2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC443610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:26:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F3A3610002 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:26:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-70-207.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.70.207]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n3AMQd2J015758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:26:41 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:26:37 +1000 Message-ID: <000501c9ba2b$6a9d17d0$3fd74770$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acm5/y9p4kQrwVa3RBSyCVZywHnw3wALCJIQ Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 00:26:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfc7a9283701470116606 I like the "far" shot the best, but can't really explain why. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile [] > Sent: Saturday, 11 April 2009 3:10 AM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the > 135/4.5 > > Beautiful photographs, beautiful flowers. > > Last November I didn't know what to do on these, so I made two shots > @5,6 - too windy. > > One is focused near, and the other far. Still I don't know which I like > best, but I feel more inclined to the one focused farther. > > Perhaps this list would be willing to make out my mind :-) > > Yes, I realized colors are not the same, but this time I'm bugged by a > DOF aesthetic question. > > There's a link to view them on black, also another to view them big > (1280). > > near ----> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429517492/ > > far ----> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429519412/ > > OM 4 spot reading mode, Provia 100F. > > TIA > > Fernando. > > C.H.Ling wrote: > > Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best > bokeh. > > It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. > > > > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm > > > > C.H.Ling > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Lazzari" > > > > > >> Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer > the > >> peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can > still > >> paint abstracts with it I guess. > >> > >> > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/currant7038.jpg > >> > >> Mike > >> -- > >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 00:39:55 2009 Received: (qmail 23607 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 22:39:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 22:39:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE41CE18305 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE885E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55CA19F65E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:39:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D319F65D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:39:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3172 invoked by uid 504); 10 Apr 2009 22:39:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 00:39:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfcabb75821234514069 What is this, Latin? Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse. Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Me too, I am impressed, fwiw. > > Joking: here you have an anti-Hombroich photograph :-) - > Any straight line or symmetry is mere coincidence, as is any properly > placed item in the landscape. > (handheld, OM 2n, 21mm F = 1:3,5 @8, Olympus 49mm linear polarizer, > Provia 100F) > > Title: > Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse. > > small: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3427721820/ > large: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3427721820/sizes/o/ > > Fernando. > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the >> affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Iwert wrote: >> >>> Thanks Chuck, >>> >>> and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! >>> >>> Iwert >>> >>> >>> Op 10-apr-09, om 20:25 heeft Chuck Norcutt het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> >>>> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be >>>> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >>>> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >>>> these. :-) >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>> Iwert wrote: >>>> >>>>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>>>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >>>>> >>>>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>>>> >>>>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>>>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >>>>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>>>> >>>>> Iwert >>>>> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 00:48:48 2009 Received: (qmail 28060 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 22:48:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 22:48:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E91E1819D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E6BE2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31933610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC223610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:48:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 26 days 03:12:58 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-4-153.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.4.153]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3AMmaVk015589 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:48:36 -0300 Message-ID: <49DFCCCE.2070700@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:48:46 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFC5DF.4020606@adinet.com.uy> <49DFCAB1.8050303@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49DFCAB1.8050303@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 00:48:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfccd090791946193717 Latin, yes: Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > What is this, Latin? Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse. > > > Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 01:39:06 2009 Received: (qmail 20049 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 2009 23:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Apr 2009 23:39:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92995E1819F for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45F4E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B927F19F6CD for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA93A19E9B5 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:39:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1277942bwz.14 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:38:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.64.130 with SMTP id e2mr3751877bki.64.1239406738918; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:38:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:38:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 74c326bce948ad7e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 01:39:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfd89a43549347015869 Well, CH, those are certainly "keepers". You've convinced me. Nicely done. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 02:28:21 2009 Received: (qmail 22066 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 00:28:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 00:28:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E901BE18307 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEEFE2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D583610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11D43610001 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15503 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 00:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Apr 2009 00:28:14 -0000 Message-ID: <49DFE41D.4000003@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:28:13 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFC5DF.4020606@adinet.com.uy> <49DFCAB1.8050303@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFCCCE.2070700@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <49DFCCCE.2070700@adinet.com.uy> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 02:28:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfe425155631823421471 I thought so but I couldn't translate "vivere" other than to assume it has something to do with "life". Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Latin, yes: > > > > > > Fernando. > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> What is this, Latin? Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse. >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 03:15:38 2009 Received: (qmail 7075 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 01:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 01:15:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FA2E182FE for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511AEE2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4232F361000D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE3C3610008 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:15:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-121.ctimail.com [61.93.57.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3B1FTF1028704 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:15:29 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3B1FSuC005019 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:15:28 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main><49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> <49DF8DF6.4020303@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:15:23 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 03:15:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfef3a200441499373980 Yes, same here, the far one is better. On the other hand you can try different shooting angles, big flowers are difficult to compose. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > No question in my mind... far, since it puts the center of the flower in > focus. But the large version would benefit from some sharpening. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: >> Beautiful photographs, beautiful flowers. >> >> Last November I didn't know what to do on these, so I made two shots >> @5,6 - too windy. >> >> One is focused near, and the other far. Still I don't know which I like >> best, but I feel more inclined to the one focused farther. >> >> Perhaps this list would be willing to make out my mind :-) >> >> Yes, I realized colors are not the same, but this time I'm bugged by a >> DOF aesthetic question. >> >> There's a link to view them on black, also another to view them big >> (1280). >> >> near ----> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429517492/ >> >> far ----> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429519412/ >> >> OM 4 spot reading mode, Provia 100F. >> >> TIA >> >> Fernando. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 04:02:10 2009 Received: (qmail 10424 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 02:02:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 02:02:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2362CE18307 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD97E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E000319F7BA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0435F19F7A1 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-033.ctimail.com [61.93.57.33]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3B221uD030998 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:02:01 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3B220ea010734 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:02:01 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com><5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:01:57 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 04:02:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dffa22263537350615338 Yeah, the images are very nice, they make me WANT the 18mm again :-) I also have a hard time to compose image with the 5D II, they are always rotated to the left side if not careful, it was seldom happen with the OM body and the E-1. Even with tripod, the result is not guarantee without grid lines on the screen. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the > affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Iwert wrote: >> Thanks Chuck, >> >> and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! >> >> Iwert >> >> >> Op 10-apr-09, om 20:25 heeft Chuck Norcutt het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be >>> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >>> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >>> these. :-) >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Iwert wrote: >>>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >>>> >>>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >>>> >>>> >>> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>>> >>>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >>>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>>> >>>> Iwert >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 04:10:29 2009 Received: (qmail 16753 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 02:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 02:10:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD6E18301 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FB0E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3648361000D for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:10:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED17361000E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:10:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24927 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 02:10:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 04:10:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dffc15281738512572685 That's why I almost always have the grid screen installed in the 5D as did I also have grid screens in my OM's. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > Yeah, the images are very nice, they make me WANT the 18mm again :-) > > I also have a hard time to compose image with the 5D II, they are always > rotated to the left side if not careful, it was seldom happen with the OM > body and the E-1. Even with tripod, the result is not guarantee without grid > lines on the screen. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > >> Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the >> affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Iwert wrote: >>> Thanks Chuck, >>> >>> and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! >>> >>> Iwert >>> >>> >>> Op 10-apr-09, om 20:25 heeft Chuck Norcutt het volgende geschreven: >>> >>>> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be >>>> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >>>> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >>>> these. :-) >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>> Iwert wrote: >>>>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>>>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >>>>> >>>>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>>>> >>>>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>>>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >>>>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>>>> >>>>> Iwert >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 04:26:26 2009 Received: (qmail 18163 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 02:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 02:26:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A0FE18304 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D1EE2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A828D3610023 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2433610022 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-109.ctimail.com [61.93.57.109]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3B2QDBD032041 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:26:18 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3B2QD7Q013579 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:26:13 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <4D7AEA06911140FDAB970094C4BC7A91@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net><1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:26:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 04:26:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49dfffd2109681744846740 Thanks, Ken. I'm glad you like them. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" > Well, CH, those are certainly "keepers". You've convinced me. Nicely > done. > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 04:37:09 2009 Received: (qmail 10715 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 02:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 02:37:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9114E18305 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D011E2412E for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B2919F7EE for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:37:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8306819F7EA for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:37:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-110.ctimail.com [61.93.57.110]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3B2b1Es032541 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:37:02 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3B2b1vF014749 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:37:01 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3EA634B113FC43EC90E35748BEAD5762@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com><5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFFC0C.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:36:57 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 04:37:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e00255239771529615919 Unfortunately, there is no EG-S with grid. I need the 'S' type screen for manual focusing. Don't know why Canyon cannot make something like N*kon's build-in grid, the D700 finder looks like having longer eye point and bigger too. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > That's why I almost always have the grid screen installed in the 5D as > did I also have grid screens in my OM's. > > Chuck Norcutt > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Yeah, the images are very nice, they make me WANT the 18mm again :-) >> >> I also have a hard time to compose image with the 5D II, they are always >> rotated to the left side if not careful, it was seldom happen with the OM >> body and the E-1. Even with tripod, the result is not guarantee without >> grid >> lines on the screen. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chuck Norcutt" >> >>> Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the >>> affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Iwert wrote: >>>> Thanks Chuck, >>>> >>>> and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! >>>> >>>> Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 09:07:12 2009 Received: (qmail 31764 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 07:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 07:07:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDA6E1830A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F69CE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA3219FA9F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D5E19F9CF for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.red-81-35-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.76.139]:57732 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LsXIk-0003T5-LM (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:06:55 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:06:53 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 08/04/2009: sonogram at lunch X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 09:07:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e041a0118722336821329 Just a happy snap. The other day a group from work went to have lunch outside, and during the meal one of the girls showed off her baby, except that it is still in her womb: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#509919353_KeCuL-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 09:55:23 2009 Received: (qmail 16473 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 07:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 07:55:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C5EE182EF for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0903E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F693610024 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:55:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2E33610020 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:55:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.red-81-35-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.76.139]:58284 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LsY3U-0006M4-Lt (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:55:13 +0000 Message-Id: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:11 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 10/04/2009: get closer! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 09:55:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e04ceb266451023412894 To me, this picture, taken during one of the Semana Santa processions yesterday, represents the essence of Leica photography. I do not mean to sound pretentious. There were other photographers covering the event with DSLRs and long lenses, and I am sure they got excellent images for today's papers. I chose to stick with the M8 and a 35mm lens, and instead get as close as possible to the participants: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#509933618_Rj5LW-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 12:16:26 2009 Received: (qmail 31736 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 10:16:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 10:16:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB75E1831E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC2FE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9CE361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:16:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81345361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9435 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 10:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Apr 2009 10:16:01 -0000 Message-ID: <49E06DE1.4090905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:16:01 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com><5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFFC0C.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> <3EA634B113FC43EC90E35748BEAD5762@main> In-Reply-To: <3EA634B113FC43EC90E35748BEAD5762@main> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 12:16:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e06dfa115102046811720 Nikon's built-in grid has always fascinated me. Do you know how they do that without an electronic display screen? I note that it also has a "virtual horizon" overlay. Until Canyon figures it out maybe we can convince JH to set up a jig to replicate the Canyon grid lines on the EG-S screen. :-) Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > Unfortunately, there is no EG-S with grid. I need the 'S' type screen for > manual focusing. Don't know why Canyon cannot make something like N*kon's > build-in grid, the D700 finder looks like having longer eye point and bigger > too. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > >> That's why I almost always have the grid screen installed in the 5D as >> did I also have grid screens in my OM's. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> C.H.Ling wrote: >>> Yeah, the images are very nice, they make me WANT the 18mm again :-) >>> >>> I also have a hard time to compose image with the 5D II, they are always >>> rotated to the left side if not careful, it was seldom happen with the OM >>> body and the E-1. Even with tripod, the result is not guarantee without >>> grid >>> lines on the screen. >>> >>> C.H.Ling >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" >>> >>>> Well, I am truly impressed then. I did *not* expect an answer in the >>>> affirmative. I have a tough time even with a tripod. :-) >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>> Iwert wrote: >>>>> Thanks Chuck, >>>>> >>>>> and yes, all handheld :) years of OMeditation helped! >>>>> >>>>> Iwert > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 12:50:46 2009 Received: (qmail 26384 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 10:50:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 10:50:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49359E1819B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082E4E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE5419DECD for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9410F19DECA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1966 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 10:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Apr 2009 10:50:39 -0000 Message-ID: <49E075FF.6080900@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:50:39 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 10/04/2009: get closer! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 12:50:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0760672721838542571 You have fulfilled your senorita requirement for the week. :-) Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > To me, this picture, taken during one of the Semana Santa processions > yesterday, represents the essence of Leica photography. I do not mean > to sound pretentious. There were other photographers covering the > event with DSLRs and long lenses, and I am sure they got excellent > images for today's papers. I chose to stick with the M8 and a 35mm > lens, and instead get as close as possible to the participants: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#509933618_Rj5LW-O-LB > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 13:32:30 2009 Received: (qmail 22397 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 11:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 11:32:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5C9E18300 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B27E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6502619DFB7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:32:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D381F19D92D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A30C96DE for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:56:29 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <0FA9DABF-AEAC-4C27-903F-1BDA31B88159@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <472964.49433.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:32:22 +0100 References: <472964.49433.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Hong Kong X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 13:32:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e07fce257662070262475 That sounds like fun, John. I remember bamboo scaffolding from Singapore and India, but I didn't realise it went up tall buildings. Chris On 9 Apr 2009, at 22:19, john.duggan10@btinternet.com wrote: > > PHEWWWWWW! > Last week I returned home from a MANIC trip to Hong Kong, > watching the Hong Kong Sevens. First imressions...in no particular > order.... > Bars open 24-7. > Amazing new buildings springing up everywhere. > Joined up public transport system. > Bamboo scaffolding used EVEN on skyscrapers. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 13:35:08 2009 Received: (qmail 9321 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 11:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 11:35:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B401DE182DD for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19923E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B2D1361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8CE3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A066C96DE for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:59:09 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <8AE09E44-B763-4350-BBB2-2D55F2553EEE@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DE0C4D.2090507@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:35:01 +0100 References: <49DBB406.3090801@chucknorcutt.com> <6BC74E4E-552C-4F11-8C9F-3E38806D38DA@frozenlight.eu> <49DD04EA.6010803@chucknorcutt.com> <49DE0C4D.2090507@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] A simple portrait light X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 13:35:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0806c155949117217770 Thanks, Chuck. On the strength of that recommendation I shall give my identity to another corner of the Web :-) Chris On 9 Apr 2009, at 15:55, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Just a large, collapsible, translucent reflector/filter placed in > front > of a sunlit window to provide an alternative to soft northern window > light. Other options are sheer curtains, sheets, etc. > > The article is about making best use of ambient light for > photographing > families in their homes. In the case illustrated a child of about 18 > months was photographed standing on a chair holding onto the back of > the > chair while supported by mom down low and behind. Also the entire > family seated on the floor of their living room lit from the filtered > window light. > > The author comments that he always looks for suitable windows and sun > position to avoid hauling in all the lights if possible. > > If you're into portraiture, lighting, and PhotoShop you could do much, > much worse than signing up for this weekly blurb. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 13:44:39 2009 Received: (qmail 21438 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 11:44:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 11:44:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED4DE18302 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EA4E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0547E3610025 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:44:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831203610024 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:44:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrc.olympuslist@ownvolition.com whitelisted) Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts13.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.34]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toip6.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.125]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090411114428.SEOH1559.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip6.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:44:28 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq8BAGAf4ElMRy56/2dsb2JhbAAIyU6DfAY Received: from bas4-toronto46-1279733370.dsl.bell.ca (HELO [192.168.51.152]) ([76.71.46.122]) by toip6.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2009 07:38:06 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 07:44:23 -0400 From: Michael Collins To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Hong Kong Thread-Index: Acm6mtusGmKpBCaOEd6CuQAX8gK7wA== In-Reply-To: <0FA9DABF-AEAC-4C27-903F-1BDA31B88159@threeshoes.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Hong Kong X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 13:44:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e082a7100425368819438 The scaffolding is wrapped with netting, but very high winds can still wreak havoc on it. In 1979 I watched from a 12th floor flat in Wan Chai as Typhoon Hope (force 8 max.) moved through Hong Kong, and saw scaffolding start to pull away from the tops of some of the towers under construction - a rather scary sight. No OM content here, sorry, as I didn't have my camera with me that day. Michael On 4/11/09 7:32 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > That sounds like fun, John. I remember bamboo scaffolding from > Singapore and India, but I didn't realise it went up tall buildings. > > Chris > > On 9 Apr 2009, at 22:19, john.duggan10@btinternet.com wrote: ... >> Bamboo scaffolding used EVEN on skyscrapers. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 15:31:16 2009 Received: (qmail 9712 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 13:31:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA54E1830C for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D675E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBDA3610024 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:31:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABEA3610020 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:31:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-089.ctimail.com [61.93.57.89]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3BDV2O9027775 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:31:02 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3BDV1ss003769 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:31:02 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <4ACEE6CE800442F98814A5B9EDD672CD@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com><5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFFC0C.2050403@chucknorcutt.com><3EA634B113FC43EC90E35748BEAD5762@main> <49E06DE1.4090905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:30:57 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 15:31:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e09ba4184031869477228 I have no idea how the N*kon works, at the mean time I'm using the AF sensor points for vertical alignment, not that convenient but it is ok. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > Nikon's built-in grid has always fascinated me. Do you know how they do > that without an electronic display screen? I note that it also has a > "virtual horizon" overlay. Until Canyon figures it out maybe we can > convince JH to set up a jig to replicate the Canyon grid lines on the > EG-S screen. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > C.H.Ling wrote: >> Unfortunately, there is no EG-S with grid. I need the 'S' type screen for >> manual focusing. Don't know why Canyon cannot make something like N*kon's >> build-in grid, the D700 finder looks like having longer eye point and >> bigger >> too. >> >> C.H.Ling >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 17:33:03 2009 Received: (qmail 26363 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 15:33:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 15:33:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69796E1819F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5DEE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0D0361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:32:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047643610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:32:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090411153253.EJBO2520.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:32:53 +0000 Message-Id: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:32:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 17:33:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0b82f204589117217770 For those interested, a page of pics from recent Florida vacation. I = believe in regard to senoritas, I may have out-Nathaned Nathan in this = particular outing, though you will be the judge of that. (For the = ladies, there's a least one pretty hunky se=F1or.) And yes, I got a = little carried away with vignetting, but I was having fun, and where's = the harm? Just in case you aren't into reading the sidebar, the Love = on the Beach couple were not tucked away in a cozy little hiding = place and violated by the burly paparazzo. They were right out in the = open along the main strolling route, and I just couldn't resist. = For balance, they are preceded in the gallery by a really ugly turtle. http://www.bwp33.com/page16/page16.html --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:04:03 2009 Received: (qmail 29778 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:04:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A629E182DC for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF532E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D551D361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:03:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F58C361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:03:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 2 mons 16 days 02:04:47 ago / 195.8.64.2 is listed in sip.invaluement.com) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.2]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.red-81-35-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.76.139]:59791 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay01.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.41]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LsfgR-0006Vr-3Y (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:03:55 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:03:54 +0200 References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:04:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0bf73102071234514069 I'd love to see them, but unfortunately when I cut and paste this link into my browser, I get a message that I do not have the rights to see those images :-( Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be > even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without > benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees > these. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Iwert wrote: >> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >> >> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >> >> > authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >> >> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >> >> Iwert > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:05:13 2009 Received: (qmail 32562 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:05:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:05:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDE9E182E1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F86E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935FE19E68D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:05:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1433019E687 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:05:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967D1461537 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:26:04 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:05:05 +0100 References: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 10/04/2009: get closer! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:05:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0bfb9318131035110158 Yes, that works, Nathan. And I am quite keen on getting close at the moment. I find that using my little 25mm with the E-420 is a pretty easy way to do so as well. Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 08:55, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > To me, this picture, taken during one of the Semana Santa processions > yesterday, represents the essence of Leica photography. I do not mean > to sound pretentious. There were other photographers covering the > event with DSLRs and long lenses, and I am sure they got excellent > images for today's papers. I chose to stick with the M8 and a 35mm > lens, and instead get as close as possible to the participants: > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#509933618_Rj5LW-O-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:08:23 2009 Received: (qmail 12886 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:08:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:08:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8651E182F7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E54E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB0819E6A3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:08:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789C719E69D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:08:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D139461537 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:29:15 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <93746843-B461-4A7C-88EB-51597A9AC68C@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:08:16 +0100 References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:08:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c07743791073733319 Thanks, Iwert. I like the lines, perspectives and colours in the white/blue photos. Is that stepladder part of that exhibit? Chris On 10 Apr 2009, at 18:09, Iwert wrote: > We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, > so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) > > All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 > > authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> > > Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the > difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll > have to fiddle a bit with that yet! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:10:08 2009 Received: (qmail 2827 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:10:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:10:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F93E18312 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36789E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1676A361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:10:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751683610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D636461537 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:31:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:10:01 +0100 References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:10:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c0e0216891342116753 They're both lovely, Fernando. Why not find a third and make a triptych? Chris On 10 Apr 2009, at 18:09, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Beautiful photographs, beautiful flowers. > > Last November I didn't know what to do on these, so I made two shots > @5,6 - too windy. > > One is focused near, and the other far. Still I don't know which I > like > best, but I feel more inclined to the one focused farther. > > Perhaps this list would be willing to make out my mind :-) > > Yes, I realized colors are not the same, but this time I'm bugged by a > DOF aesthetic question. > > There's a link to view them on black, also another to view them big > (1280). > > near ----> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429517492/ > > far ----> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3429519412/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:11:38 2009 Received: (qmail 11414 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:11:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:11:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3731E18301 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A6FE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975BD19E6C3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E48A19E6B6 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103-192.ctimail.com [61.93.57.192]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n3BGBOZV002640 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:11:24 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3BGBNpj024587 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:11:23 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3B46F4C219F94998BC66CB6EDFCA19DF@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com><49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:11:03 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:11:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c13a242381702588592 Try this: http://picasaweb.google.com/zuikooh/Hombroich2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink# C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" > I'd love to see them, but unfortunately when I cut and paste this link > into my browser, I get a message that I do not have the rights to see > those images :-( > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. I'll be >> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >> these. :-) >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Iwert wrote: >>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not skewing :) >>> >>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and 50f2 >>> >>> >> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>> >>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... I'll >>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>> >>> Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:18:30 2009 Received: (qmail 28906 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81332E180B7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112EBE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC08819E6D3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:18:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19F219E6B6 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:18:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 26 days 20:42:40 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-54-25.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.54.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3BGIH81015496 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:18:17 -0300 Message-ID: <49E0C2D4.900@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:18:28 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:18:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c2d62101470116606 LOL, and thanks for looking. I have a third, and a horrible temptation to try a feature of CS4 ... :-) BTW, did you like "Navegare ... "? Fernando. Chris Barker wrote: > They're both lovely, Fernando. Why not find a third and make a > triptych? > > Chris > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:22:52 2009 Received: (qmail 32356 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:22:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB772E182F6 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F96E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EF7361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094DF3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB0D461580 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:43:46 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DFE41D.4000003@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:22:47 +0100 References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> <5C953399-2520-4B20-8A7B-826019C53532@gmail.com> <49DFB2F0.8060807@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFC5DF.4020606@adinet.com.uy> <49DFCAB1.8050303@chucknorcutt.com> <49DFCCCE.2070700@adinet.com.uy> <49DFE41D.4000003@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:22:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c3dc319431993019900 It's the infinitive ("to live") of "vivo" ("I live"). Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 01:28, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I thought so but I couldn't translate "vivere" other than to assume it > has something to do with "life". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:23:54 2009 Received: (qmail 5093 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:23:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:23:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9223FE182F8 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08125E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F028E19E6E5 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A6219E44D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090411162348.ECRJ6222.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:23:48 +0000 Message-Id: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:23:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:23:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c41a84751073733319 Current thinking at my department is to perhaps invest in the new Zeiss manual focus 21mm Nikon mount wide angle. This is reputed to be one of the better pieces of glass around, and I believe it will meet my wider-than-24 needs well. The other lens in contention is the Nikon 14-24, which, like the similar Zuiko, has one of those incredible bowl front elements that defy filters. The Nikon 14-24 is supposed to be a true wonder, especially in the distortion department, but then so is the Zeiss 21, which touts architectural shots as one of its strong points. (Yes, I know there's an 18 from Zeiss, but it's a 3.5 and the 21 is a true 2.8. Besides, 18 seems a little extreme for my stuff, but then never having tried it . . .) Which brings me closer to the question. I have a circular polarizer for the 24-70, and I'm not afraid to use it. But I've also noticed that the wider the shot, the more likely the polarizer is to fade out, leaving a part of the sky a rich blue, and the rest of it, well, not so much. (Unless you're dead-on 90 degrees from the sun.) Example: http://www.bwp33.com/page5/files/page5-1000-full.jpg Seems like it would be even worse on a 21. The Zeiss 21 will take a polarizer, but I'm wondering if it would be worth buying. I know some of you folks have much wider lenses than I do, and so it seemed the logical place to bring up questions of value when it comes to polarizers and extreme wide angle lenses. Thanx! (And sorry for actually talking about photography. I promise not to do it again for a while.) --Bob "Lots of Wide, Very Few Angles" Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:25:23 2009 Received: (qmail 6734 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:25:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B27E1802B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4769E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC10119E3E1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555D719E6E5 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:25:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D469461537 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:46:11 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:12 +0100 References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com> <49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:25:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c47351661702588592 Check that you have the complete URL, Nathan, without the space (%20) characters. They're well worth looking at: http://bit.ly/ykMyg Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 17:03, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I'd love to see them, but unfortunately when I cut and paste this link > into my browser, I get a message that I do not have the rights to see > those images :-( -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:26:34 2009 Received: (qmail 31673 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:26:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:26:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD72E182F4 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36081E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2059D361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672013610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:26:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34991461537 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:47:26 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:26:27 +0100 References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:26:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c4ba80631234514069 That looks great, Mike. If you're not sure of the focus, why not just accept and use Photoshop filters to make it "painterly". :-) Chris On 10 Apr 2009, at 05:18, Mike Lazzari wrote: > Man I love the bokeh this lens produces! Don't know how much longer > the > peepers will be able to focus it though. When I can't focus I can > still > paint abstracts with it I guess. > > http://www.interisland.net/watershed/mike/WalkDogs/Ap09/ > currant7038.jpg -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:28:27 2009 Received: (qmail 1230 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:28:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:28:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580F8E182DF for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9602E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10AF3610020 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3B0361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:28:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-019.ctimail.com [61.93.57.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3BGSE5c001117 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:28:19 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3BGSExC026154 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:28:14 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:27:48 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 10/04/2009: get closer! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:28:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c52b68071946193717 With an almost close to "standard" lens it is not close enough :-) I did some with 28mm equivalent last year: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/YL08/YL08.htm (images slightly cropped) With AF, I wasn't doing very well. This year I will try to use my OM 24/2 pre-focused. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" > Yes, that works, Nathan. And I am quite keen on getting close at the > moment. I find that using my little 25mm with the E-420 is a pretty > easy way to do so as well. > > Chris > > On 11 Apr 2009, at 08:55, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> To me, this picture, taken during one of the Semana Santa processions >> yesterday, represents the essence of Leica photography. I do not mean >> to sound pretentious. There were other photographers covering the >> event with DSLRs and long lenses, and I am sure they got excellent >> images for today's papers. I chose to stick with the M8 and a 35mm >> lens, and instead get as close as possible to the participants: >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#509933618_Rj5LW-O-LB > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:29:06 2009 Received: (qmail 8236 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:29:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D961E182ED for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5440E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D2A19E704 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150F919E6F6 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA262461537 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:49:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <8AC3F167-812F-432F-A1B9-198BB70A3893@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:28:59 +0100 References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:29:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c552286551257536491 All are lovely, CH. I particularly like the lily in the rain, but you have captured those tulips very nicely, especially with that vivid red (not too vivid). Chris On 10 Apr 2009, at 10:55, Marc Lawrence wrote: > 2009/4/10 C.H.Ling : >> Among the Zuiko macros the 135/4.5 is probably the one with best >> bokeh. >> It was my mostly used lens for the flower show 2009. >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/FS2009.htm > > I must admit, flower photos are not something I'm normally all that > interested (I'm probably just self-conscious of my own poor efforts). > However, these are all quite beautiful. I'm particular fond of these > three: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2194.html > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2278.html > http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/FS2009/IMG_2365.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:42:21 2009 Received: (qmail 15780 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:42:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D476E182EA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A93E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7488719E754 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:42:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B584119E753 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:42:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090411164213.UWJE1731.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:42:13 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id eGiC1b00M4Z9Gks02GiCDV; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:42:13 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=D6A5qe75AAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=ZvUWNoT5FFOvnQfiiCYA:9 a=BGt9msq3imtwYoWuUMgA:7 a=-mhP61WSHZYyPzMP6pO63FZY770A:4 a=IsUHOSoT7wwA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=pY_K4-auyY49I3vM:21 a=6C1p-0XRTsPLxKGH:21 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:42:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:42:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0c86d143191257536491 Bob, I'm of the opinion that using polarizers for the typical darkening of skies with lenses wider than about 35mm is a fools errand, as the effect is uneven. If that's your goal, get graduated ND filters. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Whitmire" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers > Current thinking at my department is to perhaps invest in the new > Zeiss manual focus 21mm Nikon mount wide angle. This is reputed to be > one of the better pieces of glass around, and I believe it will meet > my wider-than-24 needs well. The other lens in contention is the Nikon > 14-24, which, like the similar Zuiko, has one of those incredible bowl > front elements that defy filters. The Nikon 14-24 is supposed to be a > true wonder, especially in the distortion department, but then so is > the Zeiss 21, which touts architectural shots as one of its strong > points. (Yes, I know there's an 18 from Zeiss, but it's a 3.5 and the > 21 is a true 2.8. Besides, 18 seems a little extreme for my stuff, but > then never having tried it . . .) > > Which brings me closer to the question. I have a circular polarizer > for the 24-70, and I'm not afraid to use it. But I've also noticed > that the wider the shot, the more likely the polarizer is to fade out, > leaving a part of the sky a rich blue, and the rest of it, well, not > so much. (Unless you're dead-on 90 degrees from the sun.) > > Example: http://www.bwp33.com/page5/files/page5-1000-full.jpg > > Seems like it would be even worse on a 21. The Zeiss 21 will take a > polarizer, but I'm wondering if it would be worth buying. I know some > of you folks have much wider lenses than I do, and so it seemed the > logical place to bring up questions of value when it comes to > polarizers and extreme wide angle lenses. > > Thanx! (And sorry for actually talking about photography. I promise > not to do it again for a while.) > > --Bob "Lots of Wide, Very Few Angles" Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.53/2054 - Release Date: 04/11/09 10:51:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 18:55:43 2009 Received: (qmail 27644 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 16:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 16:55:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84065E182DD for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED49E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328C719E79B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4674019E755 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 26 days 21:19:56 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-54-25.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.54.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3BGtTRH017739 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:55:30 -0300 Message-ID: <49E0CB8D.2010707@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:55:41 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 18:55:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0cb8f8681591313764 Perhaps because of the light-house, but in this particular example the darkening of the sky seems to be just in place. Wonderful landscape. Fernando. Bob Whitmire wrote: > Example: http://www.bwp33.com/page5/files/page5-1000-full.jpg > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 20:13:14 2009 Received: (qmail 20571 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 18:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 18:13:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC39FE182FF for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF5BE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F3619E948 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EB419E935 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3114FC96F9 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:37:13 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <8BCB9AA6-117C-47BF-9C04-371499C5B5FF@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:13:04 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [Photos] Three of todays back yard guests X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 20:13:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0ddba106711257536491 Excellent, Johan. I'll have a go in our garden if the sun shines ... Chris On 6 Apr 2009, at 22:32, Johan Malmstr=F6m wrote: > Three visitors to our back yard. > I used my E-1, OM-adapter, and photo-adapter on my spoting scope, an > old Kowa TSN-1. With the photo adapter on the spoting scope make a > 800mm/10.4 lens. > ISO@400 > > http://privat.johanmalmstrom.se/photos/visitors090406.html -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 20:15:06 2009 Received: (qmail 32485 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 18:15:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 18:15:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1987DE18304 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20561E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1215C361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:15:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834833610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:15:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C23C96DE for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:39:07 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <7300D7F7-4AFA-44A7-9262-B62A14B7601A@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:14:58 +0100 References: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 10/04/2009: get closer! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 20:15:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0de2a208941234514069 That one of the girl, 2455, is quite bewitching, CH. Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 17:27, C.H.Ling wrote: > With an almost close to "standard" lens it is not close enough :-) I > did > some with 28mm equivalent last year: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/YL08/YL08.htm (images slightly cropped) > > With AF, I wasn't doing very well. This year I will try to use my OM > 24/2 > pre-focused. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 20:41:19 2009 Received: (qmail 5009 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 18:41:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 18:41:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448B9E18309 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40CAE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE57F3610020 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A43F3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 6so1101568yxn.80 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:41:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.6.13 with SMTP id 13mr2894968anf.126.1239475246367; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:40:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904111140m243fee95yb3492a0d772e9ab4@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 20:41:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0e44f15651234514069 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: > Seems like it would be even worse on a 21. The Zeiss 21 will take a > polarizer, but I'm wondering if it would be worth buying. I know some > of you folks have much wider lenses than I do, and so it seemed the > logical place to bring up questions of value when it comes to > polarizers and extreme wide angle lenses. I once disparaged the lowly PL for just this reason and was duly thrashed by Doris of Early OM List Fame. She suggested shooting brackets with varying degrees of the PL effect. That has been good advice for me and favorably changed my practice in using a PL with a wide. Also if you shoot the occasional vertical with an extra wide, the variation will not be as great as when shooting horizontal, so you might miss it especially in those circumstances. I like the photo you posted a lot. It looks like it would be about perfect with the polarizing effect scaled back just a tad a la Doris. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 21:01:48 2009 Received: (qmail 25851 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 19:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 19:01:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BBEE182F1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8176FE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC95361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE6F3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32582 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 19:01:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 21:01:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0e91c322611035110158 Thanks. I knew you'd answer if it was Latin. :-) Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > It's the infinitive ("to live") of "vivo" ("I live"). > > Chris > > On 11 Apr 2009, at 01:28, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> I thought so but I couldn't translate "vivere" other than to assume it >> has something to do with "life". > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 21:04:33 2009 Received: (qmail 10638 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 19:04:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 19:04:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8615FE182E2 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB3DE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155B619EA89 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D0019EA7D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:04:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090411190426.HRMS12747.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:04:26 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49E0CB8D.2010707@adinet.com.uy> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:04:25 -0400 References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> <49E0CB8D.2010707@adinet.com.uy> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 21:04:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0e9c1281811023412894 On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Perhaps because of the light-house, but in this particular example the > darkening of the sky seems to be just in place. > Wonderful landscape. > > Fernando. > > Bob Whitmire wrote: >> Example: http://www.bwp33.com/page5/files/page5-1000-full.jpg >> Thanx! It does seem to work better in this example, but it was the closest I had to hand. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 21:06:16 2009 Received: (qmail 18579 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 19:06:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 19:06:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820DFE182F0 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B70E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AADB361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:06:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C84361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:06:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090411190610.INON2520.cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:06:10 +0000 Message-Id: <978BF548-36B5-4F2F-8709-361747F271FF@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904111140m243fee95yb3492a0d772e9ab4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:06:09 -0400 References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> <9e908c1f0904111140m243fee95yb3492a0d772e9ab4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 21:06:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0ea28316702046811720 On Apr 11, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > > I once disparaged the lowly PL for just this reason and was duly > thrashed by Doris of Early OM List Fame. She suggested shooting > brackets with varying degrees of the PL effect. That has been good > advice for me and favorably changed my practice in using a PL with a > wide. Also if you shoot the occasional vertical with an extra wide, > the variation will not be as great as when shooting horizontal, so you > might miss it especially in those circumstances. > > I like the photo you posted a lot. It looks like it would be about > perfect with the polarizing effect scaled back just a tad a la Doris. Thanx! I try to remind myself to use the PL so that it's not at max, but my fingers do not listen to me and almost always max it out. On the few occasions when I've used less than max, I've liked the result. Sigh. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 21:22:39 2009 Received: (qmail 13341 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 19:22:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 19:22:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4FCE18300 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14EFE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889C319EB09 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:22:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B77019EB01 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:22:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9988 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 19:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Apr 2009 19:22:32 -0000 Message-ID: <49E0EDF7.2070109@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:22:31 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> <9e908c1f0904111140m243fee95yb3492a0d772e9ab4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0904111140m243fee95yb3492a0d772e9ab4@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 21:22:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e0edff127981234514069 I also like that shot and also think that just maybe it's a tad too much near the center where the polarization is max at 90 degrees from the sun. You can see that after passing max it starts to fade again towards the right. But it the choice was with or without polarization in this shot I'd take the polarization. In this case it just looks like the sky is brighter in the direction of the sun... unless you look carefully at the right side. Shooting an even wider angle will show more apparent variation but I've never tried anything really wide. I don't have the filter for the lens. But you're in the digital age now. PhotoShop can blue those skies for you and more evenly than the polarizer. Try that first before investing in another polarizer. Also, it wants an 82mm which will not be cheap. Since it's manual and not autofocus you may be able to get away with a cheaper linear polarizer but some exposure systems are also affected by linear polarizers. Dunno about your Nikon. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote: >> Seems like it would be even worse on a 21. The Zeiss 21 will take a >> polarizer, but I'm wondering if it would be worth buying. I know some >> of you folks have much wider lenses than I do, and so it seemed the >> logical place to bring up questions of value when it comes to >> polarizers and extreme wide angle lenses. > > I once disparaged the lowly PL for just this reason and was duly > thrashed by Doris of Early OM List Fame. She suggested shooting > brackets with varying degrees of the PL effect. That has been good > advice for me and favorably changed my practice in using a PL with a > wide. Also if you shoot the occasional vertical with an extra wide, > the variation will not be as great as when shooting horizontal, so you > might miss it especially in those circumstances. > > I like the photo you posted a lot. It looks like it would be about > perfect with the polarizing effect scaled back just a tad a la Doris. > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 23:28:53 2009 Received: (qmail 1436 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 21:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 21:28:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAA1E182D9 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C32E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E50B3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:28:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD22F361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1148 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2009 21:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Apr 2009 21:28:43 -0000 Message-ID: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:28:43 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus mail list X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090410-0, 04/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 23:28:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e10b95322269347015869 Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some more to come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Apr 11 23:53:04 2009 Received: (qmail 14113 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 21:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 21:53:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B48E182FD for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA22E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C498D3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:53:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E74A361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:53:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n3BLqtc3006674 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:52:57 GMT Message-ID: <7A6B22DD0060490AA3B9D573E4F7ADC3@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:52:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Apr 11 23:53:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e11140174311946193717 Very nice image(s), Chuck. Thanks for sharing. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus mail list" Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier > Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the > Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with > Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some more to > come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the > sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. > > > > Chuck Norcutt > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 01:07:54 2009 Received: (qmail 10023 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 23:07:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 23:07:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF1DE182F7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A216FE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B6E19ED7D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:07:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41A919ED75 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:07:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-249e122c1218; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:07:45 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c85.4a320865 (65099) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:07:40 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:07:49 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Cameraquest site X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 01:07:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e122ca86302046811720 In a message dated 4/9/2009 3:57:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, john.duggan10@btinternet.com writes: Hi all....in the spirit of enabling you all to spend money I would suggest rangefinder fanatics check out Stephen Gandy's cameraQuest site. New Cosina 15 mm "M" lens and 15-35mm finder available late April. As long as you are going to tempt someone, why not point out this yummy (not so little) morsel. _http://cameraquest.com/voigtl_bessa_iii.htm_ (http://cameraquest.com/voigtl_bessa_iii.htm) Bill "Currently Resisting Temptation" Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 01:16:26 2009 Received: (qmail 14461 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 2009 23:16:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Apr 2009 23:16:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2454E1819B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374B8E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2096A19ED3B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:16:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF45C19EA2F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN8-949e124bf259; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:16:15 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c59.469ad839 (65099) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:16:10 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:16:18 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 on the E510 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 01:16:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e124ca210142046811720 Nice! Why haven't I broken mine out lately? Thank you for the inspiration. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 02:16:46 2009 Received: (qmail 13779 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 00:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 00:16:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459DEE182E3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC67E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8CE3610020 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F2F3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28030 invoked by uid 502); 12 Apr 2009 00:16:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.192.208) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 00:16:36 -0000 Message-ID: <49E132DE.9030900@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:16:30 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 02:16:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e132ee23843675314703 Bob Whitmire wrote: > Current thinking at my department is to perhaps invest in the new Zeiss manual focus 21mm Nikon mount wide angle. . . . > > Which brings me closer to the question. I have a circular polarizer for the 24-70, and I'm not afraid to use it. But I've also noticed that the wider the shot, the more likely the polarizer is to fade out, leaving a part of the sky a rich blue, and the rest of it, well, not so much. (Unless you're dead-on 90 degrees from the sun.) > > Example: http://www.bwp33.com/page5/files/page5-1000-full.jpg > It's my opinion that polarizers on digital should be reserved for controlling specular highlight reflections and for "seeing through" water and glass. In my experience, it's easier to add the darkening effects to sky in post than to correct for uneven darkening from a polarizer in post. In this particular case, it's not hard to do a decent job of correction even on such a small image. However, the circular gradient filter I used to equalize sky brightness across the frame doesn't quite match the polarizer created gradient. It's not too troublesomely obvious on this small image, but might be on a larger one. I believe the final result would be better from the same image taken without any polarizer at all. > Seems like it would be even worse on a 21. The Zeiss 21 will take a polarizer, but I'm wondering if it would be worth buying. I know some of you folks have much wider lenses than I do, and so it seemed the logical place to bring up questions of value when it comes to polarizers and extreme wide angle lenses. > You are correct. The wider the lens, the worse the problem of uneven sky. In fact, it starts to happen even without polarizer with very wide lenses and some sun angles. Here's a 17 mm shot of some nice Maine clouds that may have been hanging over Round Pond, as I think that's sorta the direction of the shot. As is often the case, it's necessary to take a step that makes the image worse on the way to something better. As shot, the image has darker sky in the upper left, moving to much lighter in the lower right. Application of a gradient layer corrects that, but makes the sky flat. LCE and Curves adjust micro and macro contrast. I then thought the blue might be overdone, so tried toning it down. Individual tastes for color and contrast of the final image will vary, but the basic process is relatively straightforward. > (And sorry for actually talking about photography. I promise not to do it again for a while.) > Oops, me to. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 02:23:02 2009 Received: (qmail 21862 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 00:23:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 00:23:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E2FE182DF for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3474BE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A6E361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:22:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B93F3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:22:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5475 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 00:22:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 00:22:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49E1345E.90401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:22:54 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> <7A6B22DD0060490AA3B9D573E4F7ADC3@jimnichols> In-Reply-To: <7A6B22DD0060490AA3B9D573E4F7ADC3@jimnichols> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 02:23:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1346651785368819438 Thanks. I just got another one ready (which took some flare patch work) but I think I'll work on a few more before posting again. Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > Very nice image(s), Chuck. Thanks for sharing. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Norcutt" > To: "Olympus mail list" > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:28 PM > Subject: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier > > >> Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the >> Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with >> Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some more to >> come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the >> sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. >> >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 02:38:15 2009 Received: (qmail 27921 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 00:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 00:38:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506DCEDC002 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E14BE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A4B361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57C53610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-m08.mx.aol.com (imr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.210]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-m08.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN8-949e137ed269; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:38:05 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bc1.4d61fa77 (37568) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB045-5c4349e137e41a4; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:38:04 -0400 Received: from FWM-M04 (fwm-m04.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.68]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA011-5c4349e137e41a4; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:37:56 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:37:56 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42402-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.68) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:37:56 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB891E0EDD2460-11DC-2DCD@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 02:38:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e137f7217691529615919 Nice Chuck--worked out well. I remember hiking a bit in June after a meeting at modest elevation on Mt Rainier.? I remember the wildflowers were nice and the weather actually cooperated--most atypical. I suspect this was handheld again given you past comments, but I detected no parallax issue or stitching problem. Look fwd to more shots from your extensive trip. Mike Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some more to come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 02:59:37 2009 Received: (qmail 7055 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 00:59:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 00:59:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF29DE182EA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B402E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A139361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:59:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF78361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:59:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-d02.mx.aol.com (imr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-d02.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN7-849e13bf61c3; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:55:18 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bcc.4be70d40 (37133) for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.154]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA027-5c4049e13be61c; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:55:14 -0400 Received: from FWM-M04 (fwm-m04.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.68]) by smtprly-db03.mx.aol.com (v123.3) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB036-5c4049e13be61c; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:55:03 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:55:02 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42402-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.68) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:55:02 -0400 Message-Id: <8CB8920727B2632-11DC-2E3C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Fried yet another yabe slave flash radio transmitter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 02:59:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e13cf9295031234514069 Something is fishy.? Seller says this is "rare."? First time, OK, mebbe, 2nd in same configuration with failure on first attempt--don't think so. Receiver seems quite happy with Viv 283 (TV 250V) but Viv in hot shoe and transmitter on PC socket--seems to fry it, if my hypothesis is correct.? I tested it not 3 min before use.? I had a spare this time, but just dragged the shutter a bit more to even out the lighting, and hoped for the best.? Should I try a Wein safe synch?? They seem pricey for what they are though have even seen an? in line pc cord? Wein gizmo for 10-15 bucks or so on yabe.? I think the seller will send yet another tranmitter as it was within the warranty period. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 03:33:01 2009 Received: (qmail 24479 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 01:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 01:33:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B8FE18307 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D0AE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5858F361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:32:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E723610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:32:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090412013251.NTNM5844.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:32:51 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49E132DE.9030900@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:32:50 -0400 References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> <49E132DE.9030900@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 03:33:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e144cd179871869477228 On Apr 11, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Moose wrote: > It's my opinion that polarizers on digital should be reserved for > controlling specular highlight reflections and for "seeing through" > water and glass. In my experience, it's easier to add the darkening > effects to sky in post than to correct for uneven darkening from a > polarizer in post. Ah. A new skill I have to master. > In this particular case, it's not hard to do a decent job of > correction > even on such a small image. However, the circular gradient filter I > used > to equalize sky brightness across the frame doesn't quite match the > polarizer created gradient. It's not too troublesomely obvious on this > small image, but might be on a larger one. I believe the final result > would be better from the same image taken without any polarizer at > all. > I like it! Where does one find the process described? Or does one ask His Mooseness to describe it? The more I do the more I realize I don't know. > You are correct. The wider the lens, the worse the problem of uneven > sky. In fact, it starts to happen even without polarizer with very > wide > lenses and some sun angles. Here's a 17 mm shot of some nice Maine > clouds that may have been hanging over Round Pond, as I think that's > sorta the direction of the shot. > Casco Bay. A bit south and west of here. Round Pond is on Muscongus Bay. I've been to Wolfe Neck a number of times. Nice paths. Good woods. Some bodacious osprey nests. Haven't been down there in a while. > LCE and Curves adjust micro and macro contrast. I then thought the > blue > might be overdone, so tried toning it down. LCE I've got. Curves I'm learning, especially since CS3 and 4 give us those convenient sliders, obviating the need to actually drag the line on the graph, which frustrated me no end. Thanx! --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 04:02:16 2009 Received: (qmail 15013 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 02:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 02:02:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C133E182EA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DE7E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A1919EF01 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE3519EEE7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (shedridc@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.239]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 78619 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Apr 2009 02:02:08 -0000 Message-ID: <179690.78144.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8.3Me84VM1nGAnAkCqr2tQ6el56pFy16n3OddkbRlC83LSj8Uu_vvm_VugtYIvnqrtr50K9e8bqhH5eGFlAP9QuPmfSQEu5rbYDRQv2Jy1ykDXs40b11HHe7TuGiKOE_GTTUJoa5lvI65jm1IQvduujvqZGCetd5Gn8c8kN7bxVHRUC3TT4.2FXvf5kOPgvUdOqUImWQjjn3li7fpsBHd4Q88LfzCnsoWaAZmXDO3YN4KTs.s5f78fHp.crQ4DjtXSHfuL_m9V_L.OLqhnutqrdK3_H6UR0mMPMuIasPGpV9kQNrPmF8X0vDvUieBg-- Received: from [68.63.130.3] by web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Shedrick To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49DD38D7.8060607@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 04:02:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e14ba858825368819438 On a long trip, I shoot RAW and jpg.=A0 I download everything to a portable= hard drive (has no view capability).=A0 I then copy the jpg only to the xd= card.=A0 I can store the whole trip on one or two xd cards, which give me = added backup insurance, plus gives me the ability to review the whole trip = as I go before I come home.=A0 BTW, no, I don't want the added bulk and has= sle of a laptop on these trips. --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Chuck Norcutt wrote: From: Chuck Norcutt Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:52 PM Why would anyone want to use an xD card if there is a CF slot available? = If I had an E-thingie with xD and CF slots and I had an xD card and no = CF card I would discard the xD card and go buy a CF card. Chuck Norcutt Rand E wrote: > Has anyone tried this adapter in an E-thingie ? > If it works, it could be a way around the current 2 gig limitation on = > the XD card > = > = > Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 04:17:40 2009 Received: (qmail 19051 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 02:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 02:17:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51557E180B8 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F4DE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508D3361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E3B3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15277 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 02:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 02:17:33 -0000 Message-ID: <49E14F3C.2040008@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:17:32 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB891E0EDD2460-11DC-2DCD@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB891E0EDD2460-11DC-2DCD@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 04:17:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e14f44108711946193717 Yes, they are all hand held and seem to fit together reasonably well but PhotoShop is giving me fits. It's been crashing in about 2 out of 3 attempts to build a pano. I think it has some serious memory management problems. Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > Nice Chuck--worked out well. > I remember hiking a bit in June after a meeting at modest elevation on Mt Rainier.? I remember the wildflowers were nice and the weather > actually cooperated--most atypical. > I suspect this was handheld again given you past comments, but I detected no parallax issue or stitching problem. > Look fwd to more shots from your extensive trip. > Mike > > > > Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the > Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with > Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some more to > come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the > sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 04:18:29 2009 Received: (qmail 10256 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 02:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 02:18:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D2CE182E3 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFBDE2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595FC19EF1B for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCD619EF0D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so1632646bwz.14 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.146 with SMTP id i18mr4663631bkg.82.1239502653735; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:17:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CB8920727B2632-11DC-2E3C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB8920727B2632-11DC-2E3C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:17:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 59b6c230e90d03a5 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Fried yet another yabe slave flash radio transmitter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 04:18:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e14f759831946193717 Whoa, there Mike. Are you saying that the Vivitar 283 is a legacy model with the 250V trigger voltage? If so, then I can understand exactly what is going on. In nearly every case, the pc-socket and hot shoe are paralleled on the camera. This means that you subjected your transmitter to 250v which it isn't able to handle. I also experimented with this type of configuration (although with not so legacy flash equipment) and usually experience less than the most stable transmitter performance. A few years ago, a former list member who is a pro wedding photographer in Detroit taught me/us about this and indicated that you want only ONE item connected to the camera--either the flash or the transmitter, but not both. One reason is that you can get "latching" where one or the other devices will not release and will short the terminals. His recommendation, which I am now using is to use a radio receiver on the "on-camera flash". The ebay transmitters give you the best performance/range when you have them in the hot-shoe AND you are using the PC-sync cord. AG (Flash) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 05:47:41 2009 Received: (qmail 3500 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 03:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 03:47:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF45E182FA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A15E2412E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E37619EFDA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:47:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA98519EFD0 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:47:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13926 invoked by uid 502); 12 Apr 2009 03:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.189.20) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 03:47:32 -0000 Message-ID: <49E16451.9080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:47:29 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DEC88C.3020800@interisland.net> <1C1EEE75E8AA48BC9A1E97CDD214C53C@main> <49DF7D5E.1010609@adinet.com.uy> <49E0C2D4.900@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <49E0C2D4.900@adinet.com.uy> Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 05:47:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1645d196909117217770 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > LOL, and thanks for looking. > > I have a third, and a horrible temptation to try a feature of CS4 ... :-) > Ah, does it now combine shots for DOF? If your third is in between in focus, tht might well do the trick. Using only the two and my mouse I got a pretty good result - except for the cobra like petal in the upper center, which isn't in focus in either shot. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 06:10:48 2009 Received: (qmail 10138 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 04:10:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 04:10:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A790EE18303 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EBAE24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461C13610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C076A361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23544 invoked by uid 502); 12 Apr 2009 04:10:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.2?) (moose@71.139.193.17) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 04:10:42 -0000 Message-ID: <49E169BE.8000500@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:38 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 06:10:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e169c8202521234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. ... > Captures the feel of such mountain locations well. I like the inclusion of foreground. I'd have probably immediately climbed up the little rise for the shots. Perhaps you did that as well, after capturing this view. The clouds look awfully washed out to me. I prefer it with the highlights spread out and down a bit. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 08:07:01 2009 Received: (qmail 17261 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 06:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 06:07:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2D8E182EB for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B53CE24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48895361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C411B361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:06:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8622BC96F7 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:31:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <649FFD2B-B5C0-44DF-9C7A-4566A02712B8@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <20090408104105.GF15069@the.earth.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:06:51 +0100 References: <20090408104105.GF15069@the.earth.li> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Colour Space, a cautionary tale. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 08:07:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e18505217801585427447 Patrick I cannot find how to control rendering of embedded profiles in Firefox 3. Are you using Windows or MacOS? Chris On 8 Apr 2009, at 11:41, Patrick Moore wrote: > Originall I was looking at it in Firefox, so switched to Safari and > noticed that it seemed fine there. *click* went the switch in my > head, and > I remembered about colour profiles. Firefox was using it's internal > profile, not that embedded in the image. Firefox 3 can use embedded > profiles, it just chooses not to by default. My bad. I tuned on using > embedded profiles, and it all just worked. Everything looked as I > wanted. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 08:14:00 2009 Received: (qmail 28100 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 06:13:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 06:13:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0AAE182EA for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1977E24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0ED19F146 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:13:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEABE19F064 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:13:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B501C96CD for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:38:01 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:13:52 +0100 References: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 08:14:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e186a8141591257536491 Thanks, Bob; I like a lot of those shots. "Busted" is good, and = "Esteemed Wife" is lovely. "Gulls and Girl" and "Eye on You" are = great, but would be better if the files were a little bigger. Whereabouts are the beaches? They're surely not Tampa Bay so you must = have been on the Gulf of Mexico. Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 16:32, Bob Whitmire wrote: > For those interested, a page of pics from recent Florida vacation. I > believe in regard to senoritas, I may have out-Nathaned Nathan in this > particular outing, though you will be the judge of that. (For the > ladies, there's a least one pretty hunky se=F1or.) And yes, I got a > little carried away with vignetting, but I was having fun, and where's > the harm? Just in case you aren't into reading the sidebar, the Love > on the Beach couple were not tucked away in a cozy little hiding > place and violated by the burly paparazzo. They were right out in the > open along the main strolling route, and I just couldn't resist. > For balance, they are preceded in the gallery by a really ugly turtle. > > http://www.bwp33.com/page16/page16.html -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 08:17:06 2009 Received: (qmail 1837 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 06:17:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 06:17:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06883E182E7 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECBDE24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDC1361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:17:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEABF3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:17:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2899AC96CD for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:41:10 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <3C885E29-0727-4E35-9BBE-B5793FE08F21@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:17:00 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Cameraquest site X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 08:17:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e18762167411035110158 Oh, that is tempting, Bill! Good thing my camera fund is low ... Chris On 12 Apr 2009, at 00:07, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > > As long as you are going to tempt someone, why not point out this > yummy > (not so little) morsel. _http://cameraquest.com/voigtl_bessa_iii.htm_ > (http://cameraquest.com/voigtl_bessa_iii.htm) > > Bill "Currently Resisting Temptation" Barber > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 08:18:19 2009 Received: (qmail 20693 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 06:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 06:18:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C5AE182FE for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E4FE24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AFA361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:18:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2086D3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:18:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.red-81-35-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.76.139]:60873 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Lst15-0003uK-CF (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:18:08 +0000 Message-Id: <12F78AEC-CDA9-4814-A73D-9AC52BB15EC9@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3B46F4C219F94998BC66CB6EDFCA19DF@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:18:07 +0200 References: <89161F10-6F79-43D0-9CF2-C05BB57639BC@gmail.com><49DF8F17.9020005@chucknorcutt.com> <3B46F4C219F94998BC66CB6EDFCA19DF@main> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 08:18:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e187ab151389347015869 Thanks--that link works and I am indeed impressed by Iwert's ability to keep things straight. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Apr 11, 2009, at 6:11 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > Try this: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/zuikooh/Hombroich2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink# > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Wajsman" > >> I'd love to see them, but unfortunately when I cut and paste this >> link >> into my browser, I get a message that I do not have the rights to see >> those images :-( >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> >> On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >>> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. >>> I'll be >>> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >>> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >>> these. :-) >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> >>> Iwert wrote: >>>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not >>>> skewing :) >>>> >>>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and >>>> 50f2 >>>> >>>> >>> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>>> >>>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... >>>> I'll >>>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>>> >>>> Iwert > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 08:19:50 2009 Received: (qmail 1524 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 06:19:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 06:19:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AAFE182E0 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14D6E24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C11361000E for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1196D3610009 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:19:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B27BC96E2 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:43:53 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:19:43 +0100 References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 08:19:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e188068837927319144 That is a lovely shot, Bob. You're bound to lose polarisation, surely as the point of view in the scene moves off the 90deg to the sun. In a narrower angle of view there is less space (fewer angles) for this to happen. But that sky looks great. Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 17:23, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > Which brings me closer to the question. I have a circular polarizer > for the 24-70, and I'm not afraid to use it. But I've also noticed > that the wider the shot, the more likely the polarizer is to fade out, > leaving a part of the sky a rich blue, and the rest of it, well, not > so much. (Unless you're dead-on 90 degrees from the sun.) > > Example: http://www.bwp33.com/page5/files/page5-1000-full.jpg > > Seems like it would be even worse on a 21. The Zeiss 21 will take a > polarizer, but I'm wondering if it would be worth buying. I know some > of you folks have much wider lenses than I do, and so it seemed the > logical place to bring up questions of value when it comes to > polarizers and extreme wide angle lenses. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 08:23:15 2009 Received: (qmail 16233 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 06:23:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 06:23:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D696E182F1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFE3E24130 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122923610025 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:23:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCC2361001F for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:23:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B22C96CF for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:47:17 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <0889E20A-2870-4B57-85E4-CF2871A71777@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:23:08 +0100 References: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 08:23:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e188d334349117217770 Nicely done, Chuck. That's a different composition from normal, with so much foreground in view. Chris On 11 Apr 2009, at 22:28, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the > Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with > Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some > more to > come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the > sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 13:17:02 2009 Received: (qmail 30861 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 11:17:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 11:17:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C550E182F1 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BB4E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0D519E05E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877FD19E05D for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:16:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4661 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 11:16:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 11:16:52 -0000 Message-ID: <49E1CDA3.3010707@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:16:51 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CB8920727B2632-11DC-2E3C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CB8920727B2632-11DC-2E3C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Fried yet another yabe slave flash radio transmitter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 13:17:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1cdae102491529615919 It would appear that the hot shoe and PC socket are not isolated from each other. Whether flash or transmitter, firing the camera just closes a switch so either device can complete the circuit and fire. With transmitter alone there's probably 3 volts there provided by the transmitters batteries. With the flash there's 250 volts there which must be driving back into the transmitter which can't take it. However, with the Viv 283 off the camera and fired by the receiver the receiver is also getting 250V. The receiver is apparently tougher than the transmitter. I suppose you could use a safe-sync to isolate the flash from the hot shoe. But it it was me I'd solve the problem by getting the flash off the hot shoe. Put it on a stand next to the camera or on a camera mounted bracket and fire it via another receiver. But I have in the back of my head that there may be a problem trying to trigger a receiver that's only 6" away. Can't recall where I heard that. Dunno, never tried it myself but you can answer the question yourself in a flash. :-) Dr. Flash usher99@aol.com wrote: > Something is fishy.? Seller says this is "rare."? First time, OK, > mebbe, 2nd in same configuration with failure on first attempt--don't > think so. Receiver seems quite happy with Viv 283 (TV 250V) but Viv > in hot shoe and transmitter on PC socket--seems to fry it, if my > hypothesis is correct.? I tested it not 3 min before use.? I had a > spare this time, but just dragged the shutter a bit more to even out > the lighting, and hoped for the best.? Should I try a Wein safe > synch?? They seem pricey for what they are though have even seen an? > in line pc cord? Wein gizmo for 10-15 bucks or so on yabe.? I think > the seller will send yet another tranmitter as it was within the > warranty period. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 13:18:28 2009 Received: (qmail 16024 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 11:18:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 11:18:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C2AE18181 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F60E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4552C34AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACB434AC01E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.152]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so1232823ywq.80 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.125.14 with SMTP id x14mr5477602anc.28.1239535102372; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <978BF548-36B5-4F2F-8709-361747F271FF@roadrunner.com> References: <046E3C63-B9D1-4400-8005-EFEF4ADC13CA@roadrunner.com> <9e908c1f0904111140m243fee95yb3492a0d772e9ab4@mail.gmail.com> <978BF548-36B5-4F2F-8709-361747F271FF@roadrunner.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:18:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0904120418j2396bf59ye689235c128db142@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 13:18:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1ce04295181702588592 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Bob Whitmire wr= ote: > On Apr 11, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: >> >> I once disparaged the lowly PL for just this reason and was duly >> thrashed by Doris of Early OM List Fame. =A0She suggested shooting >> brackets with varying degrees of the PL effect. =A0That has been good >> advice for me and favorably changed my practice in using a PL with a >> wide. =A0Also if you shoot the occasional vertical with an extra wide, >> the variation will not be as great as when shooting horizontal, so you >> might miss it especially in those circumstances. >> >> I like the photo you posted a lot. =A0It looks like it would be about >> perfect with the polarizing effect scaled back just a tad a la Doris. > > Thanx! I try to remind myself to use the PL so that it's not at max, > but my fingers do not listen to me and almost always max it out. On > the few occasions when I've used less than max, I've liked the result. > Sigh. It's terribly hard not to push it all the way. I always have to remind myself to try another one scaled back from the max just for comparison's sake later when I get them up on the Pooter. (Also, nothing in your photo that can't be fixed with a wee bit of PS...) Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 13:20:10 2009 Received: (qmail 17967 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 11:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 11:20:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C1FEDC026 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635BDE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575B034AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:20:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837D134AC01E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:20:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5897 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 11:20:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 11:20:01 -0000 Message-ID: <49E1CE61.4060802@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:20:01 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> <49E169BE.8000500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49E169BE.8000500@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 13:20:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1ce6a254701234514069 Thanks. I prefer it too but don't know how you did that. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. ... >> > > Captures the feel of such mountain locations well. I like the inclusion > of foreground. I'd have probably immediately climbed up the little rise > for the shots. Perhaps you did that as well, after capturing this view. > > The clouds look awfully washed out to me. I prefer it with the > highlights spread out and down a bit. > > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 13:42:09 2009 Received: (qmail 4943 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 11:42:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 11:42:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E58EDC006 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB7BE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FFF34AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACAD34AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:42:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14646 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 11:42:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.149) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Apr 2009 11:42:02 -0000 Message-ID: <49E1D389.5090502@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:42:01 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49E10B8B.6070803@chucknorcutt.com> <0889E20A-2870-4B57-85E4-CF2871A71777@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <0889E20A-2870-4B57-85E4-CF2871A71777@threeshoes.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 13:42:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1d3911251234514069 Thanks. I had bought the Tamron 20-40 about 6 months before the trip but had hardly used it. It was in an ebay auction that didn't seem to be gathering any attention and I bought it for (I think) USD 79. Then I bought a Tamron 24-135 specifically for the trip to have a light weight, wide zoom range walk-around lens. Much to my surprise it was the 20-40 that got the most usage and usually at the 20mm end. (actually at 21mm since the EXIF data reports the lens as 21-39mm) I never previously considered myself a wide angle sort of guy but quickly discovered that I liked the ability to include the near foreground in a landscape. This shot was probably taken in my early foreground discovery process since I see that it was taken at f/22 and probably suffers unnecessarily from diffraction. It was only later that I realized that, at 21mm, the hyperfocal distance is only 4 feet even at f/11. The foreground is close but I'm sure there's nothing closer than 2 feet and f/11 would have gotten it all while allowing both ISO 100 instead of 200 and a shutter speed of 1/200 instead of 1/100. This lens now automatically goes to f/11 whenever it's mounted. But hyperfocal at 39mm moves out to 14 feet. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Nicely done, Chuck. That's a different composition from normal, with > so much foreground in view. > > Chris > > On 11 Apr 2009, at 22:28, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Another pano from the big trip. Along Rt 410 passing through the >> Chinook Pass on the east side of Mt. Rainier. From two frames, with >> Tamron 20-40 @21mm, 1/100 @ f/22 at ISO 200. There may be some >> more to >> come in this same area but the Tamron 20-40 was flaring a lot near the >> sun. I'll have to see what's salvageable. >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 13:57:43 2009 Received: (qmail 20114 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 11:57:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 11:57:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C993E18301 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E50E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6F834AC027 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:57:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1608234AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:57:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090412115735.SVSU6222.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:57:35 +0000 Message-Id: <05C7AA02-8E8D-422F-AFCE-47EDBF33BA5F@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:57:34 -0400 References: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 13:57:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1d737304111823421471 I'd like to do bigger files, and eventually will, but at the moment too many of my customers still have crappy monitors and the size picture that looks too small on our Macs are actually quite large on lower resolution monitors. The beach is Fort Desoto, a park that's actually in St. Petersburg--I think. The Tampa Bay area is so sprawling and developed I'm never sure where I am when I'm down there. There are some excellent photo opportunities in central Florida, far from the madding crowds, but so far we've only driven across in high daylight when the contrast is way too high to get anything. One of these years when I'm down there I'm going to make the drive out from Tampa early enough in the morning to get some decent sweet light shots. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com On Apr 12, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Bob; I like a lot of those shots. "Busted" is good, and > "Esteemed Wife" is lovely. "Gulls and Girl" and "Eye on You" are > great, but would be better if the files were a little bigger. > > Whereabouts are the beaches? They're surely not Tampa Bay so you must > have been on the Gulf of Mexico. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 14:06:25 2009 Received: (qmail 23989 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 12:06:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 12:06:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23101E18301 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08D1E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FE534AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448D534AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25110 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 12:06:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 14:06:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1d941230391234514069 Thanks, that makes sense to me... at least for your case. In my case the laptop always goes on the trip with me. I consider it indispensable for travel planning, reservations, email, in-depth news and, if there's nothing decent on the tube, entertainment at night after a long drive. I've only had one for about 1-1/2 years but now don't know how I'd do without it. Chuck Norcutt Don Shedrick wrote: > On a long trip, I shoot RAW and jpg. I download everything to a > portable hard drive (has no view capability). I then copy the jpg > only to the xd card. I can store the whole trip on one or two xd > cards, which give me added backup insurance, plus gives me the > ability to review the whole trip as I go before I come home. BTW, > no, I don't want the added bulk and hassle of a laptop on these > trips. > > --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Chuck Norcutt > wrote: From: Chuck Norcutt Subject: > Re: [OM] Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter To: > "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: > Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:52 PM > > Why would anyone want to use an xD card if there is a CF slot > available? If I had an E-thingie with xD and CF slots and I had an xD > card and no CF card I would discard the xD card and go buy a CF card. > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Rand E wrote: >> Has anyone tried this adapter in an E-thingie ? If it works, it >> could be a way around the current 2 gig limitation on the XD card >> >> >> Olympus MASD-1 microSD/TF to xD Memory Card Adapter >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 14:37:53 2009 Received: (qmail 31635 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 12:37:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 12:37:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560D8E18306 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027F8E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ABC19E214 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BBC19E208 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5394 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 12:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 14:37:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e0a1299241591313764 Hey, and here I thought when you went to Florida you went to Vero Beach (east coast). Fort de Soto is getting pretty close to my new winter hangout in Palmetto (just north of the intersection of I-275 and US-41) on the south side of Tampa Bay. Maybe we'll cross paths there since, from now on, we'll be spending January thru March there. I haven't posted any shots from there yet but discovered that Myakka River State Park (about 45 minutes south of Palmetto) is a great place for Florida landscapes. I'm sure I'm going to be visiting that place often in the future, especially when I can be there in other than mid-afternoon. Unfortunately, they don't open until 8:00 am but are open until sundown. I also discovered a great Florida landscape spot with pond and birds just a couple miles away from my new digs. Unfortunately, it was the day before I left and I wasn't carrying a camera. But it's along a little traveled public roadway with no hours restrictions. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > I'd like to do bigger files, and eventually will, but at the moment > too many of my customers still have crappy monitors and the size > picture that looks too small on our Macs are actually quite large on > lower resolution monitors. > > The beach is Fort Desoto, a park that's actually in St. Petersburg--I > think. The Tampa Bay area is so sprawling and developed I'm never sure > where I am when I'm down there. There are some excellent photo > opportunities in central Florida, far from the madding crowds, but so > far we've only driven across in high daylight when the contrast is way > too high to get anything. One of these years when I'm down there I'm > going to make the drive out from Tampa early enough in the morning to > get some decent sweet light shots. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > > On Apr 12, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > >> Thanks, Bob; I like a lot of those shots. "Busted" is good, and >> "Esteemed Wife" is lovely. "Gulls and Girl" and "Eye on You" are >> great, but would be better if the files were a little bigger. >> >> Whereabouts are the beaches? They're surely not Tampa Bay so you must >> have been on the Gulf of Mexico. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 14:48:25 2009 Received: (qmail 30141 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 12:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 12:48:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352A0E1819C for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9480CE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6706319E242 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:48:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23D519E245 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:48:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A45A4615FA for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:09:19 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <05C7AA02-8E8D-422F-AFCE-47EDBF33BA5F@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:48:18 +0100 References: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> <05C7AA02-8E8D-422F-AFCE-47EDBF33BA5F@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 14:48:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e31916497350615338 Bob I think you mean "... on our Marvellous Macs ..." :-) We spent many a happy weekend on the beach at Fort De Soto when I was stationed at MacDill AFB. It was only around 40 minutes' drive from our condo on Bayshore Boulevard (the main eastern road from Tampa down to the base) and it was one of the ways a couple of years in Florida was near-Paradise for our 2 sons, who were 4 and 7 at the time. Thanks for showing it again, Bob. I'd like to return and visit the places again, but it wouldn't be the same without 2 little boys who had such fun. Mind you, they had fun wherever the sea was involved, Ballast Point was a short walk from the condo, the beach on base was reasonable and we spent our last week in Florida in an apartment in St Petersburg overlooking the beach on the Gulf. Chris On 12 Apr 2009, at 12:57, Bob Whitmire wrote: > I'd like to do bigger files, and eventually will, but at the moment > too many of my customers still have crappy monitors and the size > picture that looks too small on our Macs are actually quite large on > lower resolution monitors. > > The beach is Fort Desoto, a park that's actually in St. Petersburg--I > think. The Tampa Bay area is so sprawling and developed I'm never sure > where I am when I'm down there. There are some excellent photo > opportunities in central Florida, far from the madding crowds, but so > far we've only driven across in high daylight when the contrast is way > too high to get anything. One of these years when I'm down there I'm > going to make the drive out from Tampa early enough in the morning to > get some decent sweet light shots. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 14:53:32 2009 Received: (qmail 8579 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 12:53:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 12:53:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81BEE182E0 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BC8E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0996419E267 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:53:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2598A19E262 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:53:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-086.ctimail.com [61.93.57.86]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n3CCrOoI016467 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:53:24 +0800 Received: from main (059149244096.ctinets.com [59.149.244.96]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n3CCrNBw018167 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:53:23 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <13B700B43B30465AB1253C95B010B4C9@main> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <0D2900C4-B233-494A-B6C2-83041E293376@frozenlight.eu> <7300D7F7-4AFA-44A7-9262-B62A14B7601A@threeshoes.net> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:53:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 10/04/2009: get closer! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 14:53:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e44c157691342116753 Yeah, she was having a devil makeup. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" > That one of the girl, 2455, is quite bewitching, CH. > > Chris > > On 11 Apr 2009, at 17:27, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> With an almost close to "standard" lens it is not close enough :-) I >> did >> some with 28mm equivalent last year: >> >> http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/YL08/YL08.htm (images slightly cropped) >> >> With AF, I wasn't doing very well. This year I will try to use my OM >> 24/2 >> pre-focused. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 14:57:21 2009 Received: (qmail 2432 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 12:57:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 12:57:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA2DE182DC for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C78EE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F1519E26E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB0119E26C for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12770 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 12:57:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Hombroich 2009 pictures X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 14:57:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e5318905368819438 The trick to keeping things straight is to make sure the camera is absolutely level. Also, keeping it level and capturing all you want to may require positioning the camera mid-way between floor and ceiling. Much easier to do on a tripod. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Thanks--that link works and I am indeed impressed by Iwert's ability > to keep things straight. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Apr 11, 2009, at 6:11 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> Try this: >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/zuikooh/Hombroich2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink# >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nathan Wajsman" >> >>> I'd love to see them, but unfortunately when I cut and paste this >>> link >>> into my browser, I get a message that I do not have the rights to see >>> those images :-( >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 10, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> >>>> Very, very nice! No PhotoShop trapezoid correction required. >>>> I'll be >>>> even more impressed if you told me you shot these by hand without >>>> benefit of tripod and level. :-) Just make sure Nathan sees >>>> these. :-) >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>> Iwert wrote: >>>>> We went to Hombroich island with our students last week, >>>>> so I practised a bit on keeping verticals vertical and not >>>>> skewing :) >>>>> >>>>> All with the (OM-)5D and assorted Zuikos were 21f3.5, 18f3.5 and >>>>> 50f2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> authkey=Gv1sRgCIqtq5PL0eHkqAE&feat=directlink> >>>>> >>>>> Kept the white balance the same all day, so you can see the >>>>> difference from morning - evening and the colour of the glass... >>>>> I'll >>>>> have to fiddle a bit with that yet! >>>>> >>>>> Iwert >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 14:57:51 2009 Received: (qmail 24782 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 12:57:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 12:57:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697C4E18301 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D995CE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78AB34AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3831834AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp05.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 139.red-81-35-76.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.76.139]:61686 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay05.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.45]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1LszFX-0007IZ-GR (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:57:27 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:57:25 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 12/04/2009: eye contact X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 14:57:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e54f191557927319144 Went to see the Semana Santa procession this morning, the best and = last of this year's season. I like to go early to see the participants = getting ready. This also fulfills today's se=F1orita quote, I think: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#510695840_LZGa5-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 15:00:33 2009 Received: (qmail 3633 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 13:00:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 13:00:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC35FE181D8 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C300E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EA634AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:00:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D423934AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:00:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090412130026.TNKB5844.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:00:26 +0000 Message-Id: <0266257D-317E-4C42-88E6-F1B0791822DC@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49E1E099.6010303@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:00:24 -0400 References: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> <05C7AA02-8E8D-422F-AFCE-47EDBF33BA5F@roadrunner.com> <49E1E099.6010303@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 15:00:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e5f1260909117217770 On Apr 12, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Hey, and here I thought when you went to Florida you went to Vero > Beach > (east coast). My aunt has a condo in Jupiter. We usually go over for a couple of days, unless we stay at her condo, then we go to Tampa Bay for a couple of days. I think I know about where your new digs are, and if we're down in March or earlier I'll definitely give you a shout. As I recall from your earlier posts, you would already have been gone when we got there this year. > I haven't posted any shots from there yet but discovered that Myakka > River State Park (about 45 minutes south of Palmetto) is a great place > for Florida landscapes. I know exactly where that is. Just drove past it twice. I don't know how Florida works, but in Maine when state parks say they're closed, they mean to vehicles. I usually park near the gate and walk in for sunrise. Don't know if that would work at Myakka or not--and the looks of the, ah, "work farm" on the other side of Arcadia does not make me too up for challenging rules. Sometimes a brief conference with park officials will get you the official wink for off-hours visitation. I usually use the "enthusiastic photo nerd" mode, where I go on at length about the potential of the place and most park officials melt. Of course I'm not really acting because I generally believe what I'm saying (and have come to accept that I am, in fact, a photo nerd), otherwise I wouldn't be there in the first place. > I also discovered a great Florida landscape spot with pond and birds > just a couple miles away from my new digs. Unfortunately, it was the > day before I left and I wasn't carrying a camera. But it's along a > little traveled public roadway with no hours restrictions. Those usually are the best spots of all. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 15:04:05 2009 Received: (qmail 16224 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 13:04:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 13:04:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6E1E182EF for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149CCE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC37919E281 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:04:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E313219E27A for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f168.google.com (mail-fx0-f168.google.com [209.85.220.168]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so1689144fxm.14 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:03:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.118.130 with SMTP id v2mr4984365bkq.170.1239541438648; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:03:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49E1CDA3.3010707@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CB8920727B2632-11DC-2E3C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> <49E1CDA3.3010707@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:03:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3060957ce91f6e45 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Fried yet another yabe slave flash radio transmitter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 15:04:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e6c5171785368819438 > > But I have in the back of my head that there may be a problem trying > to trigger a receiver that's only 6" away. Can't recall where I heard > that. Dunno, never tried it myself but you can answer the question > yourself in a flash. :-) > Transmitter-Receiver distance isn't the problem. Receiver-Receiver distance is. If you have receivers within a few feet of each other they will false trigger each other. I modified one of my triggers with a hand-made antenna. I could easily extend trigger distance to 300+ feet with no failed triggers. However, one of the three transmitters is quite a bit better than the others and in combination of the hot-shoe and pc-sync cord, I can reliably trigger flashes in the 150 foot range. I bought them thinking they were rather disposable and hoped to just get a single season out of them. But I'm into year three now and they keep chugging along. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 15:12:53 2009 Received: (qmail 6751 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 13:12:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 13:12:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFA4E182ED for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EDAE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EA819E29D for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC51D19E2AB for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [76.178.221.34]) by cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090412131246.TRSD5844.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@[192.168.1.101]> for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:12:46 +0000 Message-Id: <4D1F65D0-9E60-4D1D-8426-5D30CAA37A43@roadrunner.com> From: Bob Whitmire To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:12:46 -0400 References: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> <05C7AA02-8E8D-422F-AFCE-47EDBF33BA5F@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 15:12:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e1e8d5277841838542571 On Apr 12, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > Bob > > I think you mean "... on our Marvellous Macs ..." :-) Actually, yes, that's exactly what I meant. But I didn't want to stir up trouble. Apparently there also is some feature in Internet Explorer that runs afoul of my site from time to time if I size the pictures too big. Explorer either moves them down on the page so far you can't find them, or doesn't show them at all. And because most of my customers get their computers at Best Buy and don't have a clue about calibration and resolution, I try to keep it simple. But I may opt in the future to try different software than RapidWeaver, one that's more accommodating to our, ah, Windoze friends. > We spent many a happy weekend on the beach at Fort De Soto when I was > stationed at MacDill AFB. It was only around 40 minutes' drive from > our condo on Bayshore Boulevard (the main eastern road from Tampa down > to the base) and it was one of the ways a couple of years in Florida > was near-Paradise for our 2 sons, who were 4 and 7 at the time. So you know the area. Or did, depending on when you were there. It's developed to the max now. My friend, with whom I served in Vietnam, said that Pinellas County has about one, maybe two empty lots left. His firm builds commercial buildings, and he says around Tampa it's either renovation or demolition and new construction. Of course with the economy in the tank right now, it's all small renovation jobs. I don't think I'd like to live there, what with it being so built up, but it's fun to visit. My wildlife shots were all taken at little preserves in the midst of commercial parks. Lots of boardwalks and walkways for folks to stroll at lunch and on breaks. My friend and I discovered that walking them early in the morning with tons of camera equipment hanging around our necks was a good way to strike up conversation. > Thanks for showing it again, Bob. I'd like to return and visit the > places again, but it wouldn't be the same without 2 little boys who > had such fun. My pleasure. FWIW, there are some really good real estate deals in Florida right now. The pond with the gator was fronted on one side by three large buildings, each with three or four three-floor townhouses, _none_ of which have sold. The bank now owns the buildings, and I suspect a nice townhouse could be had for a song. But then you wouldn't have neighbors and you'd have to worry about long- term security of the buildings and grounds. But the location is topnotch, in "unincorporated" Clearwater, right across the bridge from Tampa proper. --Bob -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 16:52:21 2009 Received: (qmail 9919 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 14:52:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2100AE181D6 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA976E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029F34AC024 for ; 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Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:52:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: "olympus@thomasclausen.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Happy Easter X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 16:52:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e2002554311946193717 Wishing all of you a Happy Eastet. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 18:31:27 2009 Received: (qmail 30041 invoked by uid 0); 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Chris On 12 Apr 2009, at 15:52, AS wrote: > > > Wishing all of you a Happy Eastet. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 19:09:41 2009 Received: (qmail 27393 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 17:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 17:09:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C14E18308 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C731E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0EA19E807 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:09:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE6219E7E8 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:09:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6750C314088 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E0231405F for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E22053.6000506@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:09:39 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the, 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 19:09:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e22055263271946193717 Fernando, this seems like a good candidate to try the stacking technique by combining several images to increase the DOF. I believe that there is free software out there. CombineZM?? I've been tempted to try this myself but so far haven't taken the time to set up the shot. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 19:17:50 2009 Received: (qmail 18343 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 17:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 17:17:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95C2E182F7 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DA5E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EB319E838 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.655 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.655 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904C219E828 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:17:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 27 days 21:42:01 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-6-112.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.6.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3CHHZuL027710 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:17:35 -0300 Message-ID: <49E2223C.6040206@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:17:48 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090408104105.GF15069@the.earth.li> <649FFD2B-B5C0-44DF-9C7A-4566A02712B8@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <649FFD2B-B5C0-44DF-9C7A-4566A02712B8@threeshoes.net> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Colour Space, a cautionary tale. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 19:17:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e2223e91181234514069 Chris, see if this helps: Fernando. Chris Barker wrote: > Patrick > > I cannot find how to control rendering of embedded profiles in Firefox > 3. Are you using Windows or MacOS? > > Chris > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 19:40:31 2009 Received: (qmail 16977 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 17:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 17:40:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB96E1802B for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F951E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DDF34AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4C134AC01E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D2C31408B for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BAD31408A for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E2278E.2060807@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:40:30 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 19:40:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e2278f43511234514069 > > I'm of the opinion that using polarizers for the typical darkening of skies > with lenses wider than about 35mm is a fools errand, as the effect is > uneven. If that's your goal, get graduated ND filters. > I agree. I've ruined more than a few by cranking up the polarizer effect too much. It's an addiction. However I think one can go down to 24mm with a polarizer if you are careful. Beyond 24mm it depends upon the lens. The Zuiko 18mm for example doesn't need a polarizer as it has plenty of contrast as does the 16mm. The 21 less which is why I tend to skip over it in favor of the 18mm when going from the 24mm. I'm not saying the 21mm is bad however. Also for me it would seem counterintuitive to stick a big piece of flat glass in front of a highly curved surface. I have no proof but it's gotta be asking for trouble. Second comment: If you plan on shooting architectural interiors go with 18mm. Don't worry about a small sacrifice in brightness. A tripod takes care of that. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 19:45:04 2009 Received: (qmail 7831 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 17:45:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 17:45:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A2CE182FD for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1028AE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC6634AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758834AC01E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:44:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9AB46141F for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:05:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <138E4F25-ABB6-477D-8362-3A2A89E51C2F@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <49E2223C.6040206@adinet.com.uy> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:44:57 +0100 References: <20090408104105.GF15069@the.earth.li> <649FFD2B-B5C0-44DF-9C7A-4566A02712B8@threeshoes.net> <49E2223C.6040206@adinet.com.uy> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Colour Space, a cautionary tale. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 19:45:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e228a0321571234514069 Thanks, Fernando. I had forgotten about the config file, but this UI makes it easier. Cheers Chris On 12 Apr 2009, at 18:17, Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Chris, see if this helps: > > > > Fernando. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 19:46:53 2009 Received: (qmail 25018 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 17:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 17:46:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD26E182EE for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03156E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCCE34AC027 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79334AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDE9461525 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:07:48 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4D1F65D0-9E60-4D1D-8426-5D30CAA37A43@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:46:47 +0100 References: <6152416E-32C4-4138-A983-9AF9B46BA665@roadrunner.com> <05C7AA02-8E8D-422F-AFCE-47EDBF33BA5F@roadrunner.com> <4D1F65D0-9E60-4D1D-8426-5D30CAA37A43@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few shots from Escape to Florida X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 19:46:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e2290d314185368819438 It looks much, much busier than when we were there in 88-90. But Google Earth shows no buildings in the Park, down in the south of the peninsula where we used to go. I suppose you mean the development further north on St Pete beach. Chris On 12 Apr 2009, at 14:12, Bob Whitmire wrote: > > So you know the area. Or did, depending on when you were there. It's > developed to the max now. My friend, with whom I served in Vietnam, > said that Pinellas County has about one, maybe two empty lots left. > His firm builds commercial buildings, and he says around Tampa it's > either renovation or demolition and new construction. Of course with > the economy in the tank right now, it's all small renovation jobs. I > don't think I'd like to live there, what with it being so built up, > but it's fun to visit. My wildlife shots were all taken at little > preserves in the midst of commercial parks. Lots of boardwalks and > walkways for folks to stroll at lunch and on breaks. My friend and I > discovered that walking them early in the morning with tons of camera > equipment hanging around our necks was a good way to strike up > conversation. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 19:56:00 2009 Received: (qmail 19910 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 17:56:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 17:56:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79976E182E1 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066D9E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AC819E8D5 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC66419E8BA for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A953431408B for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5807E31408A for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E22B2A.3090600@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:55:54 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Chinook Pass #1, Mt. Rainier X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 19:56:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e22b30299077927319144 Nice Chuck. I hope the Mountain came out for you. BTW Chinook Pass is getting a good dump of snow as I write. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 20:04:56 2009 Received: (qmail 6818 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 18:04:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 18:04:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA67E182F9 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CD1E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A254934AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C39334AC01E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:04:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 4 mons 27 days 22:29:07 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-6-112.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.6.112]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3CI4TZe030422; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:04:29 -0300 Message-ID: <49E22D3B.1030409@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:04:43 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49E22053.6000506@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <49E22053.6000506@interisland.net> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Cc: Mike Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the, 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 20:04:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e22d48269481591313764 Is there? ... wow, I thought this was a CS4 feature only. Shall search and try, not for this one 'though I too believe it's a good candidate. I preferred this one to have an OOF zone, but had a difficult time last November when using the 200 + 2X-A to photograph yellow and pink 'Lapachillos' when blossoming. One doesn't find a yellow and a pink one next to each other, so to compress them into a single shot ... :-( Here is the yellow one which grows in front of my house. Shot this at 8 a.m. aprox, using the 24mm (maybe hyperfocal) and spot reading from the yellow flowers ... no polarizer :-) small: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando_gonzalez_gentile/3434547459/ a link above to view it at 1280, another below to see it on black. Fernando. Mike Lazzari wrote: > Fernando, this seems like a good candidate to try the stacking technique > by combining several images to increase the DOF. I believe that there is > free software out there. CombineZM?? I've been tempted to try this > myself but so far haven't taken the time to set up the shot. > > Mike > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 20:26:01 2009 Received: (qmail 12323 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 18:25:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 18:25:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B14FE1830A for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5122EE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E33F34AC025 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8760034AC01E for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip02.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.20]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KI000CIA3754AN0@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:25:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-8-76.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.8.76]) by ip02.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:25:53 -0300 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:25:53 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArILANvO4UkYighM/2dsb2JhbACBS4hnvGAHg3UG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,176,1238986800"; d="scan'208";a="466590985" References: <49E2278E.2060807@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 20:26:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e232391022070262475 the 7-14 digital zoom does nicely without a polarizer. It also does very well capturing one's spouse, one's shoes and the scenery up ahead on Prince Edward Island! See here: http://www.johnhudsonphoto.com/957.html jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" To: "1" Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Wide angle & polarizers > > >> I'm of the opinion that using polarizers for the typical darkening of >> skies >> with lenses wider than about 35mm is a fools errand, as the effect is >> uneven. If that's your goal, get graduated ND filters. >> > I agree. I've ruined more than a few by cranking up the polarizer effect > too much. It's an addiction. However I think one can go down to 24mm > with a polarizer if you are careful. Beyond 24mm it depends upon the > lens. The Zuiko 18mm for example doesn't need a polarizer as it has > plenty of contrast as does the 16mm. The 21 less which is why I tend to > skip over it in favor of the 18mm when going from the 24mm. I'm not > saying the 21mm is bad however. Also for me it would seem > counterintuitive to stick a big piece of flat glass in front of a highly > curved surface. I have no proof but it's gotta be asking for trouble. > > Second comment: If you plan on shooting architectural interiors go with > 18mm. Don't worry about a small sacrifice in brightness. A tripod takes > care of that. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 20:54:54 2009 Received: (qmail 16739 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 18:54:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 18:54:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3792E182E4 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD9DE24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1257919EA1D for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:54:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D37819EA16 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16867 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 18:54:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090411-0, 04/11/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (DOF doubt) Walking the dog this evening with the, 135/4.5 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Apr 12 20:54:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9996 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 49e238fe236702046811720 Latest release by author Alan Hadley is Combine ZP. Get it here: For Windows only. Download and install the CombineZP Package. Alan often makes fix files and makes just the affected files available for download. I suggest not doing that but stick with the full package. Old versions must also be uninstalled prior to installing the new. CombineZP is a very general package for combining a stack of images for either DOF or HDR. I think most users (at least the vocal ones) use it for DOF enhancement on images shot through a microscope. That appears to be Hadley's motivation as well. Because it is general purpose its usage is not as straightforward as a specialized app. It provides a tool box of functions which are applied through running of macros. There are standard macro sets or you can roll your own including modifiying the standard ones. Hadley is a dedicated guy but, in my opinion, is not a professional software developer or documenter. It took me quite some time just to figure out the information that's in my second paragraph above. It will take a while to figure out how to use it but it does work. The latest release has not been out very long and initial bug reports are just now slowing down. But the bugs that were reported I think would not likely affect most users. If you put the stack together correctly (and, IIRC I think the ordering of images in the stack in focus depth order is important) and find the right macro I think it should just click off and do its thing. Good luck. You certainly can't complain about the price. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: > Fernando, this seems like a good candidate to try the stacking technique > by combining several images to increase the DOF. I believe that there is > free software out there. CombineZM?? I've been tempted to try this > myself but so far haven't taken the time to set up the shot. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Apr 12 21:01:07 2009 Received: (qmail 10919 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 2009 19:01:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 12 Apr 2009 19:01:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B3CE182E9 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96F8E24132 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB96734AC027 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:01:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3185D34AC024 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:01:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19995 invoked by uid 504); 12 Apr 2009 19:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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