From nilsf Mon Jun 1 00:11:34 2009 Received: (qmail 11146 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2009 22:11:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 May 2009 22:11:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12002E182D9 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F43E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D34634AC024 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15BF34AC023 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:11:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m26.mail.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imo-m26.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a230002f7; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:09:16 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.cca.4fbfc00f (37541) for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB022-5c524a23006437b; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:10:46 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MY15 (webmail-my15.sim.aol.com [64.12.108.26]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA028-5c524a23006437b; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:10:44 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:10:44 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42952-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by WEBMAIL-MY15.sysops.aol.com (64.12.108.26) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 31 May 2009 18:10:44 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBB053C72F7427-16F8-11B5@WEBMAIL-MY15.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] New to list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 00:11:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a230096168014673671140 Back from the Peloponnese hopefully with a few reasonable images. The reasonably stable releases for the CHDK hack are listed below: http://mighty-hoernsche.de/ The firmware for a few Oly digicams has been dumped, but none of the serous experienced developers has really given it a full court press AFAIK from checking in on the forum now and again. I like the G9 hack despite its included native RAW with the hyperfocal distance calculator on half press, separate live 3 channel histo, zebra mode. There are also very elegant intervalometer scrips already written for it. (I alos can monitor the battery temp and sensor temp :-)--not sure why I really need to know that though. The G10 firmware has been dumped and undoubtedly will succomb to a developer this year. It appears that less than 10% of the firmware requires in depth understanding to port the hack. I would not bet against Moose being able to do it as well, but I can't imagine it would be good use of his time. Mike Oh come on - I thort you could hack anything! Andrew Fildes afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On 29/05/2009, at 8:18 PM, Moose wrote: > Yup, I've used it on an A710 and am using and loving it on an A650. > Not > available for the A80, though. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 00:32:05 2009 Received: (qmail 23527 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2009 22:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 May 2009 22:32:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8C7E182D1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8B4E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC94E19F48E for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D83219F453 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 15:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MAtZ9-0000cB-SK for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:31:44 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by asmtp-out6.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MAtZ8-00058X-TE for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:31:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4A230561.9070203@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:32:01 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A23A341.13238.9BE9E1@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4A23A341.13238.9BE9E1@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) (OT) Aah; That was foolish, Paddy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 00:32:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a230565115683675314703 Brian Swale wrote: > I guess we've all heard "ish" jokes. As in Ir-, Pol-, Scott-, Wel-. > > Here's a real "Ir-" joke that was on the front page of my local paper this > morning. Unfortunately, it is not in their electronic edition, but a syndicated > paper just a province away ran a slightly curtailed version. > > Here is it ... > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/2461693/Ahh-that-was-foolish- > Paddy > > Brian Swale. Not sure how you can possibly 'graffiti' a pub calling itself Pog Mahone.... Don't these people speak Gaelic? :-) D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 01:56:02 2009 Received: (qmail 18782 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2009 23:56:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 May 2009 23:56:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0473E182AE for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7A2E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C8E19F68D for ; 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d="scan'208";a="356001030" X-EsetScannerBuild: 4991 References: <4A23A341.13238.9BE9E1@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: [OM] completely OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 01:56:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a231912152391993019900 This piece in the London Times of 1 June 2009 might be of interest http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6401827.ece Here in Halifax, Nova Scotia we have a cemetary containing the last remains of many passengers. jh __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 01:58:45 2009 Received: (qmail 22613 invoked by uid 0); 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(moose@71.139.203.156) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 31 May 2009 23:58:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4A2319A9.1050702@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:58:33 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A22B0A7.5060308@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4A22B0A7.5060308@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] The Glendenning's Garden X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 01:58:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2319b5298171342116753 Mike Lazzari wrote: >> I prefer the Manfrotto without QR. ... >> > Using the 3232 (234) adding a QR would prevent or hinder flopping the camera over to the portrait position, correct?. Not at all. you may be misjudging the relative sizes of things. Straight up, landscape. Flopped, portrait. No more nor less effort than without the QR. You still simply loosen the thumbscrew and turn the camera (and QR receiver) 90 deg. I show it flopped one way. It also flops the other way. No interference between QR receiver and head. > Or at least add another level of unnecessary complexity to a system designed for simplicity. Agreed. I would only do it where I wanted QR plates on the camera(s) for other purposes. Then it would be simpler than mounting and unmounting the plates. > But then I never really saw the benefit of QR outweighing the expense and clunkiness. I never have seen a personal need for the Swiss-Arca type gear. But I like and find it a help to use these light, little and, at least relatively, inexpensive QRs. The plate is so small and light, it just lives on the 5D. Whichever tripod or tri-monopod I grab, it just pops on securely. > A thumb screw "wastes" maybe 15sec. Only if you are really slow. More like under 5 sec. when in practice. [No, I never said I didn't have or use ANY Leica gear.] Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 01:59:22 2009 Received: (qmail 4235 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2009 23:59:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 May 2009 23:59:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782DEE182D0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116DBE240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E655634AC025 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 16:59:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9035434AC024 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 01:59:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2319da272002336821329 What blows my mind is that she was just 2 years old at the time. > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6401827.ece > > Here in Halifax, Nova Scotia we have a cemetary containing > the last remains > of many passengers. > > jh > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 02:01:36 2009 Received: (qmail 12290 invoked by uid 0); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 02:01:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a231a60169271234514069 Inside Canyon: http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/19639/Canon+Electronics.html I am not posting this to say that the corporate culture is right or wrong. They have a completely different culture and set of ethics. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 02:07:29 2009 Received: (qmail 16217 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 00:07:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 00:07:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2628E18229 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3371E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C9619F685 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:07:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDB219F1E5 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:07:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7658 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 00:07:22 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 02:07:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a231bc1327523675314703 I think Bass Harbor Dingies is the winner with Bubble Creek and More Elements the runners up. Chuck Norcutt Bob Whitmire wrote: > A few shots from Mt. Desert Island and Acadia National Park. All were > taken in the middle of the day, with fog and/or rain. Makes for an > interesting challenge. > > http://www.bwp33.com/page6/page6.html > > As always, comments, criticisms and questions welcomed. Well, usually > welcomed. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 02:12:39 2009 Received: (qmail 28096 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 00:12:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 00:12:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AEFE182D1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF16CE240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E942434AC025 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5320534AC023 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10373 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 00:12:30 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 00:12:30 -0000 Message-ID: <4A231CED.1090808@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:12:29 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBB053C72F7427-16F8-11B5@WEBMAIL-MY15.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CBB053C72F7427-16F8-11B5@WEBMAIL-MY15.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] New to list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 02:12:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a231cf6231831257536491 How does this work? Does someone have a disassembler? I can't imagine doing this in machine code. Where do you get the instruction set for a Canon processor? :-) Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > Back from the Peloponnese hopefully with a few reasonable images. > > The reasonably stable releases for the CHDK hack are listed below: > > http://mighty-hoernsche.de/ > > The firmware for a few Oly digicams has been dumped, but none of the > serous experienced developers has really given it a full court > press AFAIK from checking in on the forum now and again. I like the G9 > hack despite its included native RAW with the hyperfocal distance > calculator on half press, separate live 3 channel histo, zebra mode. > There are also very elegant intervalometer scrips already written for > it. (I alos can monitor the battery temp and sensor temp :-)--not sure > why I really need to know that though. The G10 firmware has been > dumped and undoubtedly will succomb to a developer this year. It > appears that less than 10% of the firmware requires in depth > understanding to port the hack. I would not bet against Moose being > able to do it as well, but I can't imagine it would be good use of his > time. > Mike > > > Oh come on - I thort you could hack anything! > Andrew Fildes > afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > On 29/05/2009, at 8:18 PM, Moose wrote: > >> Yup, I've used it on an A710 and am using and loving it on an A650. >> Not >> available for the A80, though. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 02:59:59 2009 Received: (qmail 5902 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 00:59:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 00:59:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AB1E182EB for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE6A16E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7339A19F737 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:59:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D133C19F725 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:59:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2395 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 00:59:47 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 00:59:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4A232803.9070008@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:59:47 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <642964.32903.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <642964.32903.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] completely OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 02:59:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23280f239262046811720 No, only 9 weeks old. Maybe you meant 2 months? Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > What blows my mind is that she was just 2 years old at the time. > >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6401827.ece >> >> Here in Halifax, Nova Scotia we have a cemetary containing >> the last remains >> of many passengers. >> >> jh >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of >> virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 03:07:38 2009 Received: (qmail 10886 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 01:07:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 01:07:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B753E182CA for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ED316E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4EF19F752 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2B419F74E for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8677 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2009 01:07:30 -0000 Message-ID: <676838.7476.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3Kb4yUkVM1lnLNzR1s89HlKIO5ZXi5p1K0CWGBCcvU26O66pfIZrVbcO_oo4y4.Ar4InRp7I2pjKz0w6IKdQFsUQcGNkQvET_FY.vM__oSPi.RmlGS80QJ9UooeltRcp4YgWwAX4Rbd_LVh_WF9fg9mEanbf3IHaB3_Pt8EU.k9CUN_M_hCUT77flLzxz6fjHVSZTMRGUA9OGe.mRXUciALibtZkde4lLYXawyhghhNKbp21Ox0xUQcOTLVLPIYtHtCZ4bGIU2hpYbim25qRbibjGQCxtpk75t1n1ydx8_JbdkEwtRFd6mULYM8RLcfIQHrr2sSwo3dYYB17fFSCfThqfQNmZoNtLntZ7Xe2lxH0l.Rvsg-- Received: from [71.186.240.179] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.12 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] completely OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 03:07:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2329da7069347015869 --- On Sun, 5/31/09, Chuck Norcutt wrote: I could have sworn that Yahoo! news reported her as being 2. It is 9 weeks.= Anyway still amazes me. I took the family to see the Titanic exhibit at th= e Carnegie Museum in Pittsburgh. The items on display were fascinating. > > = > >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6401827.ece > >> > >> Here in Halifax, Nova Scotia we have a cemetary > containing > >> the last remains = > >> of many passengers. > >> > >> jh = > >> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, > version of > >> virus signature database 4117 (20090530) > __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> -- = > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > >> > > = > > = > >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 03:13:38 2009 Received: (qmail 20797 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 01:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 01:13:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD77E182D1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4BB16E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD2134AC026 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE0534AC025 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pelaughlin@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yNSJ1b0040mlR8UAFRDaFl; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:13:34 +0000 Received: from PaulPC ([76.115.42.101]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yRDZ1b00B2Axmu48XRDaZE; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Paul Laughlin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <642964.32903.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <642964.32903.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:14:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [OM] completely OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 03:13:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a232b4211214673671140 9 weeks old, not 2 years. VBG Paul in Portland OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "AS" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [OM] completely OT > > What blows my mind is that she was just 2 years old at the time. > >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6401827.ece -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 03:20:54 2009 Received: (qmail 17895 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 01:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 01:20:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C98CE1822D for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA372E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56AA19F76D for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A76A19F768 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m12.mail.aol.com (imo-m12.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-m12.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a232ced21a; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:20:45 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c29.59a87229 (37162) for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA041-5bba4a232ce41a0; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:20:41 -0400 Received: from MBLK-M19 (mblk-m19.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.52]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA031-5bba4a232ce41a0; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:20:36 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:20:36 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 42952-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.181 by MBLK-M19.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.52) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 31 May 2009 21:20:36 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBB06E4D2BD399-11D4-4B84@MBLK-M19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] New to list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 03:20:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a232cf6323321499373980 Yep, it appears they use an IDA. The instructions for new developers are listed below. http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Adding_support_of_a_new_camera The port of the hack to the G9 was languishing for months with one intractable bottleneck after another until this one cracker-jack dev in Stuttgart finally got a hold of a G9--he had it ported in 8 hours of work. The others fixed the bugs and ported it for the other flavors of firmware over a few weeks. :-) Mike How does this work? Does someone have a disassembler? I can't imagine doing this in machine code. Where do you get the instruction set for a Canon processor? :-) Chuck Norcutt usher99 [at] aol.com wrote: Back from the Peloponnese hopefully with a few reasonable images. The reasonably stable releases for the CHDK hack are listed below: http://mighty-hoernsche.de/ The firmware for a few Oly digicams has been dumped, but none of the serous experienced developers has really given it a full court press AFAIK from checking in on the forum now and again. I like the G9 hack despite its included native RAW with the hyperfocal distance calculator on half press, separate live 3 channel histo, zebra mode. There are also very elegant intervalometer scrips already written for it. (I alos can monitor the battery temp and sensor temp :-)--not sure why I really need to know that though. The G10 firmware has been dumped and undoubtedly will succomb to a developer this year. It appears that less than 10% of the firmware requires in depth understanding to port the hack. I would not bet against Moose being able to do it as well, but I can't imagine it would be good use of his time. Mike Oh come on - I thort you could hack anything! Andrew Fildes afildes [at] xxxxxxxxxxxxx On 29/05/2009, at 8:18 PM, Moose wrote: Yup, I've used it on an A710 and am using and loving it on an A650. Not available for the A80, though. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 04:03:18 2009 Received: (qmail 11721 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 02:03:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 02:03:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232C4E182F0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA1016E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871DF34AC024 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:03:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CBF34AC023 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:03:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (gmcgrath@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-d06.mx.aol.com (imr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.159.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-d06.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a2336cb2e1; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:02:51 -0400 Received: from GMcGrath@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bc0.566240cd (39331) for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:02:46 -0400 (EDT) From: GMcGrath@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:02:46 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] completely OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 04:03:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2336e6293022046811720 We just passed through Halifax cruising on the HAL Maasdam a few days ago and went to the Maritime Museum to see the Titanic exhibit. It's a great museum, and I wish I'd had a couple of days just for it. Greg In a message dated 5/31/2009 6:56:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, OM4T@eastlink.ca writes: Here in Halifax, Nova Scotia we have a cemetary containing the last remains of many passengers. jh **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823251x1201398665/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May ExcfooterNO62) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 04:31:50 2009 Received: (qmail 15411 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 02:31:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 02:31:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5447E182D0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EE3E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD5734AC024 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DE434AC023 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from hosting335.com (hosting335.com [203.194.209.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 19:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1512 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 02:31:39 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-230.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.230) by hosting335.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 02:31:39 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 22:31:30 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 04:31:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a233d96141711073733319 At 11:03 AM 5/31/2009, you wrote: >I fully understand where you are coming on this. The OM-3Ti in my bag has, >but one purpose--to be used! Such pleasure and joy to hear. My heart sings. ws -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 05:01:37 2009 Received: (qmail 19803 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 03:01:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 03:01:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8050E182F6 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89432E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE9219F892 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C0919F879 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m22.mail.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a234485e5; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:01:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d40.42786b84 (65100) for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:01:23 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:01:23 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5004 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] FS - Darkroom stuff. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 05:01:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a234491106622070262475 I am in the process of setting up my wet darkroom. While doing my hunting and gathering over the past couple of years, a bit more than required for my needs has been accumulated. If there are those out here in Zuiko Land who are in need of darkroom stuff, you might let me know as there is some surplus. I can send photos and give pricing. Local pick up or delivery in the Houston/Austin/San Antonio areas may be possible. There might even be a possibility along the way from Houston to Santa Fe to Denver to Baton Rouge for a late June early July road trip. I have a revolving dark room door, film drying cabinets, a Durst 1200 enlarger, several archival print washers, easels and many other doo dads and things. If you need it, let me know and I'll see if I have surplus. Some stuff may be free or close to it and some of the better stuff will be fairly priced. Let me know off line if you have any needs. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 05:20:14 2009 Received: (qmail 11341 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 03:20:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 03:20:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AD6E182DD for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C6016E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDFB19F8D5 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5BD19F8C7 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so3686609yxf.80 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.155.14 with SMTP id h14mr10652140ybo.250.1243826407180; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:20:07 -0400 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0905312020h32e5b252x5112093a953cb651@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] FS - Darkroom stuff. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 05:20:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2348ee14711234514069 how big is the film dryer? I need a small one for 35mm and 120 filmm. On 5/31/09, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > I am in the process of setting up my wet darkroom. While doing my hunting > and gathering over the past couple of years, a bit more than required for > my needs has been accumulated. If there are those out here in Zuiko Land > who are in need of darkroom stuff, you might let me know as there is some > surplus. I can send photos and give pricing. Local pick up or delivery in > the Houston/Austin/San Antonio areas may be possible. There might even be > a possibility along the way from Houston to Santa Fe to Denver to Baton > Rouge for a late June early July road trip. > > I have a revolving dark room door, film drying cabinets, a Durst 1200 > enlarger, several archival print washers, easels and many other doo dads and > > things. If you need it, let me know and I'll see if I have surplus. Some > stuff > may be free or close to it and some of the better stuff will be fairly > priced. > > Let me know off line if you have any needs. > > Bill Barber > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.rfman.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 05:22:11 2009 Received: (qmail 28309 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 03:22:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 03:22:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07714E182DD for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBEB16E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884FA19F8DB for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA5219F8C7 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl40.gs02.gridserver.com (cl40.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:49618 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl40.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MAy65-0004xO-3v for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:22:01 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:22:57 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] FS - Darkroom stuff. Thread-Index: AcniaEIWgHg1hk5bEd6s4wAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] FS - Darkroom stuff. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 05:22:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a234963246921585427447 Damn, I need a film dry cabinet, but the shipping would cost a fortune. I missed the boat on that. Years ago when everyone went digital people up here were giving them away...almost paying people to take them away! I didn't need one, but when I lived in santa fe I needed one (its very dusty there!) and couldn't find one even if I wanted to buy one. The used ones had all vanished, mostly into landfills :( New ones cost over a thousand dollars! -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-3962 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 5/31/09 11:01 PM, "NSURIT@aol.com" wrote: > I am in the process of setting up my wet darkroom. While doing my hunting > and gathering over the past couple of years, a bit more than required for > my needs has been accumulated. If there are those out here in Zuiko Land > who are in need of darkroom stuff, you might let me know as there is some > surplus. I can send photos and give pricing. Local pick up or delivery in > the Houston/Austin/San Antonio areas may be possible. There might even be > a possibility along the way from Houston to Santa Fe to Denver to Baton > Rouge for a late June early July road trip. > > I have a revolving dark room door, film drying cabinets, a Durst 1200 > enlarger, several archival print washers, easels and many other doo dads and > things. If you need it, let me know and I'll see if I have surplus. Some stuff > may be free or close to it and some of the better stuff will be fairly > priced. > > Let me know off line if you have any needs. > > Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 06:29:09 2009 Received: (qmail 23076 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 04:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 04:29:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E262EE182F2 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA419E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52E819F9E4 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1722219F9E2 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32145 invoked by uid 502); 1 Jun 2009 04:28:59 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-207-105.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.207.105) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 04:28:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4A235905.8050901@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 21:28:53 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090525151851.WMJHX.679128.root@cdptpa-web05-z02><4A1B7C37.5080007@gmail.com> <4A1CF788.1020600@gmail.com><4A1F743E.90807@gmail.com><04BDB5788E8040DBB9262ACC04E1A34E@jimnichols> <4A1F781E.7040609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: [OM] Images As The Mood Strikes - 8 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 06:29:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a235915176941234514069 This image has a wide array of colors. It somehow doesn't seem to have quite caught the full glint of light from the pieces of red glass in the warm light that I remember. Still, it has a wide range of colors and I like it a lot. Jim Nichols wrote: > Moose, > > I just did a search to see where it was, and learned a little about the origin and name. Tell us more. > Not much more to tell than the Wikipedia entry. "In the early 20th century, Fort Bragg residents threw their household trash over these cliffs. They discarded glass, appliances, and even cars. The land was owned at that time by the Union Lumber Company, and locals referred to it as "The Dumps." Sometimes fires would be lit to reduce the size of the trash pile. In 1967, the /North Coast Water Quality Board/ and city leaders closed the area and various cleanup programs were undertaken through the years to correct the damage. Over the next several decades the pounding waves cleansed the beach, wearing down the discarded glass into the small, smooth, colored trinkets that cover the beach today." At first sight, the rocks and sea are much more interesting than the beach. Get close with hand and knees, binoculars or camera lens, and everything changes. Perhaps especially in the late light when we were there, it becomes a fairyland of shape and color. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 06:46:21 2009 Received: (qmail 7363 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 04:46:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 04:46:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710FE182C8 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C630E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6256034AC024 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1209034AC023 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oldspeckledhen@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout018.mac.com (asmtpout018.mac.com [17.148.16.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:46:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([82.69.49.211]) by asmtp018.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKJ00JQUMKZOB70@asmtp018.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 31 May 2009 21:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: From: Nicolas Mitchell To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-reply-to: <4A231BB8.8030000@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:46:11 +0100 References: <8805A92E-CB1D-4A7D-9762-58609149ED4A@roadrunner.com> <4A231BB8.8030000@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 06:46:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a235d1d193309347015869 I prefer Rainy Coast to More Elements. N On 1 Jun 2009, at 01:07, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I think Bass Harbor Dingies is the winner with Bubble Creek and More > Elements the runners up. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Bob Whitmire wrote: >> A few shots from Mt. Desert Island and Acadia National Park. All were >> taken in the middle of the day, with fog and/or rain. Makes for an >> interesting challenge. >> >> http://www.bwp33.com/page6/page6.html >> >> As always, comments, criticisms and questions welcomed. Well, usually >> welcomed. >> >> --Bob Whitmire >> www.bwp33.com >> >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 07:10:30 2009 Received: (qmail 12145 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 05:10:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 05:10:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F160E182EB for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CC416E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71F519FA35 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100B419FA34 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:10:23 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n515AKNY010761 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:10:22 GMT Message-ID: <3B4E920403954599A693AFE7A6A377CA@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <20090525151851.WMJHX.679128.root@cdptpa-web05-z02><4A1B7C37.5080007@gmail.com> <4A1CF788.1020600@gmail.com><4A1F743E.90807@gmail.com><04BDB5788E8040DBB9262ACC04E1A34E@jimnichols> <4A1F781E.7040609@gmail.com> <4A235905.8050901@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:10:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Images As The Mood Strikes - 8 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 07:10:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2362c6146269347015869 Moose, Thanks for the update. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:28 PM Subject: [OM] Images As The Mood Strikes - 8 > This image has a wide array of colors. It somehow doesn't seem to have > quite caught the full glint of light from the pieces of red glass in the > warm light that I remember. Still, it has a wide range of colors and I > like it a lot. > > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> Moose, >> >> I just did a search to see where it was, and learned a little about the >> origin and name. Tell us more. >> > > Not much more to tell than the Wikipedia entry. > > "In the early 20th century, Fort Bragg residents threw their household > trash over these cliffs. They discarded glass, appliances, and even > cars. The land was owned at that time by the Union Lumber Company, and > locals referred to it as "The Dumps." Sometimes fires would be lit to > reduce the size of the trash pile. > > In 1967, the /North Coast Water Quality Board/ and city leaders closed > the area and various cleanup programs were undertaken through the years > to correct the damage. > > Over the next several decades the pounding waves cleansed the beach, > wearing down the discarded glass into the small, smooth, colored > trinkets that cover the beach today." > > At first sight, the rocks and sea are much more interesting than the > beach. Get close with hand and knees, binoculars or camera lens, and > everything changes. Perhaps especially in the late light when we were > there, it becomes a fairyland of shape and color. > > Moose > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 07:29:24 2009 Received: (qmail 20910 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 05:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 05:29:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F32E182ED for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9F916E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB15719FA4D for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFA419FA58 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0AEC974D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:55:18 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <0CB2B483-E771-4C25-9246-D1AED47D8EE0@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8805A92E-CB1D-4A7D-9762-58609149ED4A@roadrunner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:29:16 +0100 References: <8805A92E-CB1D-4A7D-9762-58609149ED4A@roadrunner.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 07:29:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a236734315801234514069 Thanks, Bob. They're certainly atmospheric shots, with Rainy Coast the most evocative. Chris On 31 May 2009, at 22:11, Bob Whitmire wrote: > A few shots from Mt. Desert Island and Acadia National Park. All were > taken in the middle of the day, with fog and/or rain. Makes for an > interesting challenge. > > http://www.bwp33.com/page6/page6.html > > As always, comments, criticisms and questions welcomed. Well, usually > welcomed. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 07:33:50 2009 Received: (qmail 31948 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 05:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 05:33:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EB3E1822C for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340E516E0002 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1720F34AC024 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:33:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7AE34AC028 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:33:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 22:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024D5C974A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:59:45 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A235905.8050901@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:33:44 +0100 References: <20090525151851.WMJHX.679128.root@cdptpa-web05-z02><4A1B7C37.5080007@gmail.com> <4A1CF788.1020600@gmail.com><4A1F743E.90807@gmail.com><04BDB5788E8040DBB9262ACC04E1A34E@jimnichols> <4A1F781E.7040609@gmail.com> <4A235905.8050901@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Images As The Mood Strikes - 8 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 07:33:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23683e81934673671140 Yes, that is a goodly array of colours, Moose. Thanks for showing it. Chris On 1 Jun 2009, at 05:28, Moose wrote: > This image has a wide array of colors. It somehow doesn't seem to have > quite caught the full glint of light from the pieces of red glass in > the > warm light that I remember. Still, it has a wide range of colors and I > like it a lot. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 08:08:21 2009 Received: (qmail 29766 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 06:08:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 06:08:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD19E182D1 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1693E240B0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821BE19FA9A for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0551619FA95 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:08:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 23:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16016 invoked by uid 502); 1 Jun 2009 06:08:14 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-207-105.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.207.105) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 06:08:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4A237048.6070304@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:08:08 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090525151851.WMJHX.679128.root@cdptpa-web05-z02> <4A1B7C37.5080007@gmail.com> <4A1CF788.1020600@gmail.com> <4A1F743E.90807@gmail.com> <58C28358-DD5A-4C94-90AC-7233514F9D96@roadrunner.com> <580DB7F3-8DDD-4349-B818-073BAA826255@threeshoes.net> <2D0C08A3-DAE9-4767-8BB3-56DED8054098@roadrunner.com> <4A2242C5.6020806@gmail.com> <4A22B775.6050605@gmail.com> <152EC464-679F-4E9A-B15E-2A09D663D256@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <152EC464-679F-4E9A-B15E-2A09D663D256@roadrunner.com> Subject: [OM] Context for Images As The Mood Strikes - 7 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 08:08:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a237055267961499373980 Bob Whitmire wrote: > Actually, I did. I just didn't recognize it as Acadia border. > I've never seen that seaweed with the heart shaped strawberry look on the pacific coast. But you weren't to know that. Taken along Seawall Rd., So. of Southwest Harbor, where the road runs between the sea and a small lake. Not a hot spot, but like most of the island, full of beauty. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 09:40:39 2009 Received: (qmail 17784 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 07:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 07:40:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9DBE182DA for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D2AE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C835C34AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FA534AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so16123203gxk.14 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:40:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.185.15 with SMTP id i15mr10998321ybf.266.1243842031887; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:40:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:40:31 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 09:40:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2385f724351869477228 I just bought a Mamiya 7II with the 80 and the 150 lens, for just a little over half that. Big negatives rock. > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.rfman.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 09:54:43 2009 Received: (qmail 424 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 07:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 07:54:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0D6E182D4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B62E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DFF34AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:54:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277D834AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 00:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19973 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2009 07:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.149.144) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 07:54:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <532499.29653.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <532499.29653.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <7AD3166E-6058-4DA7-A37A-D5C3BECD4913@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:54:32 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 09:54:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a238943103541470116606 It looks vile and deranged but then - anything that gets rid of meetings.... Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/06/2009, at 10:01 AM, AS wrote: > > > Inside Canyon: > > http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/19639/Canon > +Electronics.html > > I am not posting this to say that the corporate culture is right or > wrong. They have a completely different culture and set of ethics. > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 10:03:11 2009 Received: (qmail 10143 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 08:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 08:03:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449E6EDC027 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8882316E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D5A19DD75 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:03:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335F719DD6D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:03:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22518 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2009 08:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.149.144) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 08:02:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <5F2491DC-83FF-4D11-A865-2AC5BBE33D87@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:03:00 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 10:03:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a238b3f266041499373980 I'd be impressed if you got the wide as well. :-) Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/06/2009, at 5:40 PM, Richard Man wrote: > I just bought a Mamiya 7II with the 80 and the 150 lens, for just a > little > over half that. > > Big negatives rock. > >> > > > -- > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > // w: http://www.rfman.com > // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 10:08:41 2009 Received: (qmail 11701 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 08:08:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 08:08:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AA8EDC036 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB1916E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D1C19DD89 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493E519DD87 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:08:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f220.google.com (mail-gx0-f220.google.com [209.85.217.220]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk20 with SMTP id 20so16141019gxk.14 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:08:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.192.21 with SMTP id p21mr11272006ybf.7.1243843710659; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:08:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5F2491DC-83FF-4D11-A865-2AC5BBE33D87@people.net.au> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> <5F2491DC-83FF-4D11-A865-2AC5BBE33D87@people.net.au> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:08:30 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0906010108p12953021o22115c455ab566aa@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 10:08:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a238c89294189117217770 You mean the 43mm? I rented one over the weekend, and yes, I am looking for one. There are a couple on you know where that looks promising. Check out http://rfman.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/blackbird-raum/ and http://imagecraft.smugmug.com/gallery/7057353_KNLFz/2 for the TXP-320 goodness :-) On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Fildes wrote: > I'd be impressed if you got the wide as well. :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/06/2009, at 5:40 PM, Richard Man wrote: > > > I just bought a Mamiya 7II with the 80 and the 150 lens, for just a > > little > > over half that. > > > > Big negatives rock. > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > > // w: http://www.rfman.com > > // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.rfman.com // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 10:45:26 2009 Received: (qmail 23081 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 08:45:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 08:45:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C734EE182C7 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5EAE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FD134AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:45:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A6B34AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:45:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 01:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-70-207.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.70.207]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n518j4Hc031993 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:45:11 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:44:43 +1000 Message-ID: <002d01c9e295$39d589b0$ad809d10$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcnijEIoFGux9MAUSje0HRdFmUivZQACOgKw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 10:45:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2395265941470116606 43mm next ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Man [mailto:richard.lists@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, 1 June 2009 5:41 PM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty > > I just bought a Mamiya 7II with the 80 and the 150 lens, for just a > little > over half that. > > Big negatives rock. > > > > > > -- > // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com > // w: http://www.rfman.com > // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 11:29:53 2009 Received: (qmail 20845 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 09:29:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 09:29:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE3EDC01B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B871FE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A115B34AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:29:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED41634AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:29:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olysimian@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.61]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 64377 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2009 09:29:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VAIO) (OlySimian@86.166.74.211 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 09:29:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5j1jwP0VM1kA0VI6ZQrERzhuRJA0spMG9w18wXwr79pJ9xsK3.tMz5Y1Kv1saKwH7n1elvAfqiKNsMgDI4zvnsKGpqFGYl51Jw2LMq3IJwmF1raxvJtfhco47KUVCdGknnDv1WfQ9KUKRtDlDXLBV6O7C.nMTk8oFb2wzTziUOSFQLvX8pftb5cOPZ3UP4p44eLxp_fe718ufAW1p7HhcavrBNXwn.riCy94ICOUJIFHWNNco9W5o1tEONjANhAhy5HHVKVeXbDgO9B_YiRAp5MrcdKCEBw.g99a2JFjP5ja_vEbLJk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <1155CE749C49443E9FC215D226D97E9C@VAIO> From: "CyberSimian" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A19E536.28362.2662B2C@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4CCFA718-2570-4DB0-BDDD-DC63334451AE@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:30:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Web Page Design (was: High Noon) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 11:29:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a239f9175801234514069 Chris Barker wrote: > I have a feeling that CS is disappointed a lot of the time ... This is entirely correct. Your post prompted me to consider what fraction of the web pages that I visit have either minor defects or major defects. This is not easy to assess, as I have become inured to pages with minor defects, so I tend not to expostulate any more when I come across one. I would define "minor" and "major" as: MINOR DEFECT: A page that has a layout that is obviously not what the designer intended, but which does not impair the function of the page. Example: text which extends outside a box that is obviously intended to contain the text, but which does not overlay any other important elements of the page (such as other text). MAJOR DEFECT: A page where the layout has gone awry to the extent that its function is impaired. Examples: (1) text overlaying other text, making the text difficult or impossible to read; (2) a drop-down selection list where a significant amount of the text selected is cropped off behind the rectangular entry field (a frequent occurrence with credit-card entry fields on shop check-out panels). Of the pages that I visit, my estimate would be 40-50% of them show minor defects, and 10-20% show major defects. Actually, when I started this thread I never expected to convince anyone to change their web sites. But I hope that I have sown a seed that might bear fruit in the future. When you encounter this problem again, you will have some understanding of the cause of the problem and how to fix it. This topic reminds me of the definition of chamber music that appeared in the glossary of "Bluff Your Way in Music" by Peter Gammond (Wolfe Publishing 1968), viz.: CHAMBER MUSIC: Music written for a very small number of listeners. I think that the definition of "fixed font size" that would appear in the glossary of "Bluff Your Way in Web Page Design" would be: FIXED FONT SIZE: A facility used by web sites that have a very small number of visitors. -- from CyberSimian in the UK -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 11:47:41 2009 Received: (qmail 21270 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 09:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 09:47:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39252EDC01E for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EF1E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FE734AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:47:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74DF34AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:47:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KKK00KWG0JAFXN0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:47:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-10-133.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.10.133]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:47:33 -0300 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:47:34 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <706C949CBB954CDAA0133C90BD1C705B@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcLAHNAI0oYigqF/2dsb2JhbACBSYkRwCMIhAQF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,283,1241406000"; d="scan'208";a="541805966" X-EsetScannerBuild: 4991 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531222911.022941e0@zuik.net> <7ac27f4f0906010040h79c895d0oa6f7e2ddf842eae3@mail.gmail.com> <5F2491DC-83FF-4D11-A865-2AC5BBE33D87@people.net.au> Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 11:47:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23a3bd234921591313764 The 50mm / f4.5 wide angle is impressive ! jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fildes" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty > I'd be impressed if you got the wide as well. :-) > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/06/2009, at 5:40 PM, Richard Man wrote: > >> I just bought a Mamiya 7II with the 80 and the 150 lens, for just a >> little >> over half that. >> >> Big negatives rock. >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com >> // w: http://www.rfman.com >> // b: http://rfman.wordpress.com >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 11:50:29 2009 Received: (qmail 4383 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 09:50:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 09:50:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40523E182DD for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2761EE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B2D19E0A5 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AAF19E0A3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:50:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 227.red-81-38-54.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.38.54.227]:51525 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MB49k-0003zb-1L (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:50:12 +0100 Message-Id: <28109744-B6A2-4889-8DD7-AADDBD4C98B4@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Picture a Day discussion group , Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:50:10 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/06/2009: my first panorama X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 11:50:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23a465231362336821329 Since I am spending so much time at home during my recovery, I am reading a lot, catch up on movies bought but not yet watched, and in general trying to do something sensible with my time. This morning, inspired by a magazine article, I decided to try my hand at panoramas. So I dragged my tripod and the M8 with the 50mm Summilux up to my roof terrace and took pictures of the golf course. I then stitched the images together using Photoshop's Photomerge feature. This image is made from 23 individual images. The full-size image is 18222 x 3432 pixels. I will definitely explore this technique in the future with more interesting landscapes than our golf course! http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#551631182_eADen-O-LB (on the web, I made the image 1200 pixels wide; if you have to scroll, close the Original view and try Large or X-Large instead) Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 11:51:21 2009 Received: (qmail 21078 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 09:51:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 09:51:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4EBE181AE for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18293E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F30019E0B1 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:51:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07E319E0AF for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:51:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 02:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip05.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.68]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KKK00F6C0PD8KH0@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:51:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-10-133.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.10.133]) by ip05.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:51:13 -0300 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:51:13 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkLANxBI0oYigqF/2dsb2JhbACBSYkRgyi8bwiCKwcPgUMFiGo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.41,283,1241406000"; d="scan'208";a="541807549" X-EsetScannerBuild: 4991 References: <532499.29653.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] OT X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 11:51:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23a499251731023412894 What's that unusual about those people standing up ? They are bank tellers serving customers. The cash boxes are sitting on the floor at knee level. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "AS" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: [OM] OT > > > Inside Canyon: > > http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/19639/Canon+Electronics.html > > I am not posting this to say that the corporate culture is right or wrong. > They have a completely different culture and set of ethics. > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4117 (20090530) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 12:18:33 2009 Received: (qmail 3346 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 10:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 10:18:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37713E182D9 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 03:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76E6E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 03:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C4534AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 03:18:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7202D34AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 03:18:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 03:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7478 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2009 10:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.149.144) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 10:18:15 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <28109744-B6A2-4889-8DD7-AADDBD4C98B4@frozenlight.eu> References: <28109744-B6A2-4889-8DD7-AADDBD4C98B4@frozenlight.eu> Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:18:20 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/06/2009: my first panorama X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 12:18:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23aaf9280351869477228 Only problem I have with that is that it looks a bit like, er, Queensland. Somehow I'd expected better. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/06/2009, at 7:50 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Since I am spending so much time at home during my recovery, I am > reading a lot, catch up on movies bought but not yet watched, and in > general trying to do something sensible with my time. This morning, > inspired by a magazine article, I decided to try my hand at panoramas. > So I dragged my tripod and the M8 with the 50mm Summilux up to my roof > terrace and took pictures of the golf course. I then stitched the > images together using Photoshop's Photomerge feature. This image is > made from 23 individual images. The full-size image is 18222 x 3432 > pixels. I will definitely explore this technique in the future with > more interesting landscapes than our golf course! > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#551631182_eADen-O-LB > (on the web, I made the image 1200 pixels wide; if you have to scroll, > close the Original view and try Large or X-Large instead) > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:07:47 2009 Received: (qmail 24019 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:07:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:07:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD078E182C9 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F84E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E12419E329 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:07:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B490B19E31D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:07:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601110740905.VXXM23251@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:07:40 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:07:40 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601110740.EJIA8.108976.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:07:40 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A23A341.13238.9BE9E1@bj.caverock.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Brian Swale Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) (OT) Aah; That was foolish, Paddy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:07:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23b68334171342116753 And here I was looking for an actual joke. I have heard it said the Lord invented alcohol so the Irish couldn't not rule the world. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Brian Swale wrote: > I guess we've all heard "ish" jokes. As in Ir-, Pol-, Scott-, Wel-. > > Here's a real "Ir-" joke that was on the front page of my local paper this > morning. Unfortunately, it is not in their electronic edition, but a syndicated > paper just a province away ran a slightly curtailed version. > > Here is it ... > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/2461693/Ahh-that-was-foolish- > Paddy -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:16:20 2009 Received: (qmail 15830 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:16:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663E6E182CB for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6809AE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ECC34AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223BA34AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:16:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601111615687.VYTM23251@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:16:15 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:16:15 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601111615.SJLNR.109012.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:16:15 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A2319A9.1050702@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Moose Subject: Re: [OM] The Glendenning's Garden X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:16:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23b884159031234514069 ---- Moose wrote: > I never have seen a personal need for the Swiss-Arca type gear. It comes into its own when the equipment gets heavy. I never would have entertained the notion of Arca-Swiss type until my camera reached M-14 weight territory. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:22:31 2009 Received: (qmail 27933 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:22:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:22:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8CCEDC02F for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E586E16E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D163934AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4934AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601112224846.TIOS6801@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:22:24 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:22:24 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601112224.CXXPF.109039.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:22:24 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A231BB8.8030000@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Chuck Norcutt Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:22:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23b9f7193391823421471 Thanx, Chuck. I sat in a place called the Seafood Ketch in Bass Harbor munching a broiled haddock sandwich, staring at those dingies for a good half-hour. When I left, I had to get the camera out of the car and have a go at them. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I think Bass Harbor Dingies is the winner with Bubble Creek and More > Elements the runners up. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Bob Whitmire wrote: > > A few shots from Mt. Desert Island and Acadia National Park. All were > > taken in the middle of the day, with fog and/or rain. Makes for an > > interesting challenge. > > > > http://www.bwp33.com/page6/page6.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:25:05 2009 Received: (qmail 22030 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:25:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:25:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F08EDC01B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA6516E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A688334AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:24:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2516234AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:24:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28133 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 11:24:56 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 11:24:56 -0000 Message-ID: <4A23BA87.8050801@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:24:55 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] DIY flim dryer, was: FS - Darkroom stuff. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:25:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23ba91201401499373980 See for some suggestions on inexpensive, DIY film dryers. With the basic ideas presented there you can probably improvise something similar. Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > Damn, I need a film dry cabinet, but the shipping would cost a fortune. I > missed the boat on that. Years ago when everyone went digital people up here > were giving them away...almost paying people to take them away! I didn't > need one, but when I lived in santa fe I needed one (its very dusty there!) > and couldn't find one even if I wanted to buy one. The used ones had all > vanished, mostly into landfills :( New ones cost over a thousand dollars! > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:28:59 2009 Received: (qmail 32026 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:28:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7333EDC013 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE05D16E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A010734AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:28:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA36734AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30896 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 11:28:49 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 11:28:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4A23BB71.7080308@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:28:49 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090525151851.WMJHX.679128.root@cdptpa-web05-z02><4A1B7C37.5080007@gmail.com> <4A1CF788.1020600@gmail.com><4A1F743E.90807@gmail.com><04BDB5788E8040DBB9262ACC04E1A34E@jimnichols> <4A1F781E.7040609@gmail.com> <4A235905.8050901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Images As The Mood Strikes - 8 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:28:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bb7b193871073733319 What's the scale of what we see? Any idea of the approximate linear size covered by the frame? Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Yes, that is a goodly array of colours, Moose. Thanks for showing it. > > Chris > > On 1 Jun 2009, at 05:28, Moose wrote: > >> This image has a wide array of colors. It somehow doesn't seem to have >> quite caught the full glint of light from the pieces of red glass in >> the >> warm light that I remember. Still, it has a wide range of colors and I >> like it a lot. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:29:33 2009 Received: (qmail 24764 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:29:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377CEEDC014 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59D416E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED4434AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28B234AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15587 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2009 11:28:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.149.144) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:28:52 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20090601112224.CXXPF.109039.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> References: <20090601112224.CXXPF.109039.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <51FFDCCA-041A-4DB3-93B2-B9FF4005F44B@people.net.au> From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:28:44 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:29:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bb9d129101702588592 Good grief. I'll have the shark salad. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/06/2009, at 9:22 PM, wrote: > broiled haddock sandwich -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:30:11 2009 Received: (qmail 19083 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:30:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:30:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAB1E1822B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B6216E0002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DFD19E3B3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE67119E39D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (afildes@people.net.au whitelisted) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15611 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2009 11:29:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.8?) (218.215.149.144) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:29:28 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20090601110740.EJIA8.108976.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> References: <20090601110740.EJIA8.108976.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: From: Andrew Fildes Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:29:34 +1000 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) (OT) Aah; That was foolish, Paddy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:30:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bbc3295102070262475 Hmmmm. Andrew Fildes afildes@people.net.au On 01/06/2009, at 9:07 PM, wrote: > so the Irish couldn't not rule the world. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:31:00 2009 Received: (qmail 25124 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:31:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:31:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA9BE1822D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F7EE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6B819E3B9 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:30:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0F119E3A5 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:30:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601113055202.WAKR23251@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:30:55 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:30:54 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601113055.6EJV9.109093.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:30:55 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Nicolas Mitchell Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:31:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bbf4241141470116606 Thanx. That one grew on me slowly. At first I didn't think much of it, but the more I looked the better I liked it. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Nicolas Mitchell wrote: > I prefer Rainy Coast to More Elements. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:32:15 2009 Received: (qmail 23109 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:32:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:32:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF18CEDC011 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E297FE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7AB34AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366BF34AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from a.painless.aaisp.net.uk (a.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by a.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MB5kM-0004lY-UV for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:32:07 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A1F2941.15511.23263DC@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4A1E9096.1060405@chucknorcutt.com><4A1FD3B6.1050104@verizon.net> <4A200A31.7090906@chucknorcutt.com> <42200ADA-6AEC-4FCB-989C-6924A5DEF9BE@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:32:02 +0100 Message-ID: <32542AFBAA3E4C5F9AB6CB2095B9DBA1@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <42200ADA-6AEC-4FCB-989C-6924A5DEF9BE@threeshoes.net> Thread-Index: AcnhQ6ju2UBTN6FbRRCWmr/x1LPCjABZmeyw X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 31/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Vertigo and BPPV, was: Glendenning's garden X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:32:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bc3f165161591313764 I can speak from first hand experience of the complete cure effected by one administration of the Epley manoeuvre. Utterly painless, very quick, and wholly effective in putting right that which had gone wrong with zero recurrence of the problem (which caused me to fall flat on my back if I looked up and to the left - a neat party trick, but not to be recommended). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOuzUi5ckrk gives a good idea of what is involved. Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] Sent: 30 May 2009 17:28 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Vertigo and BPPV, was: Glendenning's garden Thanks for that, Chuck. One or two of my students seem to have suffered from this or something related. I'll point them this way. Chris On 29 May 2009, at 17:15, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Sorry to hear that, John. It can be very debilitating. My son > suffered from vertigo for two years after his helicopter crash until > his chance meeting with a naval flight surgeon who had a through > understanding of BPPV (benign paroxysmal positional vertigo) and the > "Epley maneuver". > Naval flight surgeons receive training in this and, much to my > surprise, many other doctors seem to know nothing about it. > > There are certainly other causes of vertigo other than BPPV but if it > is BPPV be prepared to fend for yourself. You may have to educate the > doctor. The Epley manuever usually resolves BPPV with a single > treatment. My son required a re-do for some reason but he was 98% > cured after his second treatment. It takes only a few minutes. What > a relief after two years of incredibly expensive, time consuming (and > ineffective) treatment. You can even do it yourself as there is a > self-administered form of the Epley maneuver. > > Read about BPPV here > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:33:03 2009 Received: (qmail 20682 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:33:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:33:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CB5E1822E for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2E1E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D8719E3D0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D68619E3BF for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601113257557.TJUZ6801@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:32:57 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:32:57 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601113257.SMGKV.109105.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:32:57 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0CB2B483-E771-4C25-9246-D1AED47D8EE0@threeshoes.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Chris Barker Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:33:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bc6f229581702588592 Thanx, Chris. That particular area is one of the most popular in the park. On a sunny day in July or August you wouldn't be able to see the rocks for the people. There are advantages to going early in the season, and when the weather is bad. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Chris Barker wrote: > Thanks, Bob. They're certainly atmospheric shots, with Rainy Coast > the most evocative. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:38:15 2009 Received: (qmail 15862 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:38:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDF7EDC002 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24C5E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47D834AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D7934AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601113809825.TKLQ6801@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:38:09 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:38:09 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601113809.QA9RQ.109138.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:38:09 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A237048.6070304@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Moose Subject: Re: [OM] Context for Images As The Mood Strikes - 7 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:38:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bda7151921744846740 ---- Moose wrote: > I've never seen that seaweed with the heart shaped strawberry look on > the pacific coast. But you weren't to know that. > > Taken along Seawall Rd., So. of Southwest Harbor, where the road runs > between the sea and a small lake. Not a hot spot, but like most of the > island, full of beauty. > Never seen that either. Will look for it, as the Seawall area is very high on my list of places to spend some time. I know the road well, and have traveled it many times in the past year. I have prints in a gallery in Southwest Harbor and so I have to get up there from time to time. As it turns out, one of the gallery owners has graciously invited me to use their garage apartment for a ridiculously low rent. I plan to go and spend two or three days at a time so I can get out at sunrise, which up there these days is before 5 a.m. In fact, I'm supposed to go next week, if jury duty doesn't get in the way. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:44:51 2009 Received: (qmail 20846 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:44:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:44:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCB5EDC030 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90730E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BC319E133 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E5219E3FF for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:44:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601114444498.TLHR6801@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:44:44 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:44:44 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601114444.KRCFQ.109170.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:44:44 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <51FFDCCA-041A-4DB3-93B2-B9FF4005F44B@people.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Andrew Fildes Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) A few from Acadia X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:44:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bf33169443675314703 Hey, it was good! Home-made bread, and a piece of provolone melted over the fish. Steak fries and cole slaw, too. I would have had a pint as well, but I had many, many miles to drive that afternoon, and as yet have not learned how to nap while driving. --Bob ---- Andrew Fildes wrote: > Good grief. > I'll have the shark salad. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/06/2009, at 9:22 PM, > wrote: > > > broiled haddock sandwich -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 13:46:36 2009 Received: (qmail 5903 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 11:46:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 11:46:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83F5E182D1 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601AEE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3078334AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:46:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDE934AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:46:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web14-z01 ([10.127.132.105]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090601114628264.TLNW6801@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:46:28 +0000 Received: from 76.179.67.104 by webmail.roadrunner.com; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: <20090601114628.0VK6X.109182.root@cdptpa-web14-z01> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 7:46:28 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Andrew Fildes Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) (OT) Aah; That was foolish, Paddy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 13:46:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23bf9c326751869477228 Damn! Those stinky double negatives! So the Irish couldn't rule the world. Or maybe because I'm half Irish the double negative was Freudian. --Bob ---- Andrew Fildes wrote: > Hmmmm. > Andrew Fildes > afildes@people.net.au > > > > On 01/06/2009, at 9:07 PM, > wrote: > > > so the Irish couldn't not rule the world. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:13:39 2009 Received: (qmail 14420 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:13:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE7BEDC00C for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0389BE240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F120234AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575D634AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31663 invoked by uid 504); 1 Jun 2009 12:13:28 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Jun 2009 12:13:28 -0000 Message-ID: <4A23C5E7.90809@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:13:27 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <28109744-B6A2-4889-8DD7-AADDBD4C98B4@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <28109744-B6A2-4889-8DD7-AADDBD4C98B4@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/06/2009: my first panorama X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:13:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23c5f340311234514069 I think you should be able to accomplish the same shot with about 1/2 the number of exposures. From the dimensions given it appears you must have been overlapping the frames by about 2/3. That may be necessary in areas where there is little detail but, in most cases, an overlap of about 1/3 is adequate. If the only things in the photo were the grass and trees in the foreground (which can move a bit with the wind) then a 2/3 overlap might have been required or at least would have assisted the software. But the very rigid and rectangular lines of the buildings in the background give plenty of info for the software to use for accurate positioning. With lots of rigid detail you may even be successful with as little as 10% overlap but that's probably pushing it. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Since I am spending so much time at home during my recovery, I am > reading a lot, catch up on movies bought but not yet watched, and in > general trying to do something sensible with my time. This morning, > inspired by a magazine article, I decided to try my hand at panoramas. > So I dragged my tripod and the M8 with the 50mm Summilux up to my roof > terrace and took pictures of the golf course. I then stitched the > images together using Photoshop's Photomerge feature. This image is > made from 23 individual images. The full-size image is 18222 x 3432 > pixels. I will definitely explore this technique in the future with > more interesting landscapes than our golf course! > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#551631182_eADen-O-LB > (on the web, I made the image 1200 pixels wide; if you have to scroll, > close the Original view and try Large or X-Large instead) > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:26:22 2009 Received: (qmail 27545 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:26:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D9CE182D1 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C271BE240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A616119E4EA for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:26:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C979219E4ED for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:26:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alienspecimen@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.151]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23703 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2009 12:26:12 -0000 Message-ID: <619972.23340.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7AxL1qMVM1n20VNMKSA49nRmk0KUzRjT.PjIahAGQwYO1DNszwgobvuQsR_hF34dyEGaZT56MJ2bxMFTOJsH_lyAOKNa1k8hf0wXzvw_57MQ_h4sp2IIIFbg7HVS2aO4TsrJj36G07pFtjgM4NGsnkw1OQrJm5az.T.JQyRVPqUKKNgzkA_.2_BF6PoKWyDB3Y2IpW1LRr8r_SwCgfb4Okj58utCtY6wkbPaEbjJK4cJGbkYfbrIVQXaXOJ_ahTuZRt.kvhD_7bUmprg2s2MAJ8.MclpIKwXxw.kHr6jE5pJFXKWp.suGWoK9nrTfs0szOduZsixcv3FZbZPhmlB.c2NwQ8IRJoWvr3uYR1HDRU8x0_wHOM3.rKCwOU6pqJkpkAy Received: from [199.46.154.96] by web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:26:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This weeks pictures for fun - and it includes a beer X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:26:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23c8ee48151257536491 Close, =A0 Northeast is leading the beer industry of the entire world.=A0 I wish I cou= ld say the same about the wine... =A0 I just had the best ale in my entire life this weekend. =A0 Comes from here: =A0 http://www.oldeburnsidebrewing.com/index.html =A0 Northeast is literally littered with breweries and it is hard to find bad b= eer.=A0 = =A0 Having said that, one thing that you cant find in the US is a good lager, e= specially like the ones brewed in the Southern and Eastern Europe.=A0 Never= had a Romanian beer, but had some excellent Czech, Italian and Bulgarian..= .Sometimes I get Becks here to satisfy the crave, but it is not as good.=A0 = Boris =A0 >The brew-pubs of the Pacific North West are leading the way in the=A0 = >beer world in my opinion. There is at least one expert on this list :-) > >Tom = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:27:22 2009 Received: (qmail 26697 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:27:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:27:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D7BE18228 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0FDE240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B696634AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:27:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7630734AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:27:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK00GFF7G2O4B0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23C6B6.6080508@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:16:54 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A1F2941.15511.23263DC@bj.caverock.net.nz> <4A1E9096.1060405@chucknorcutt.com> <4A1FD3B6.1050104@verizon.net> <4A200A31.7090906@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4A200A31.7090906@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Vertigo and BPPV, was: Glendenning's garden X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:27:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23c92a247791823421471 Thank you. It's very mild and at this point I feel it only when I get out of bed in the morning. My twin sister has it too. I'll be seeing another doctor to learn those self administered exercises. One step at a time. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Sorry to hear that, John. It can be very debilitating. My son suffered > from vertigo for two years after his helicopter crash until his chance > meeting with a naval flight surgeon who had a through understanding of > BPPV (benign paroxysmal positional vertigo) and the "Epley maneuver". > Naval flight surgeons receive training in this and, much to my surprise, > many other doctors seem to know nothing about it. > > There are certainly other causes of vertigo other than BPPV but if it is > BPPV be prepared to fend for yourself. You may have to educate the > doctor. The Epley manuever usually resolves BPPV with a single > treatment. My son required a re-do for some reason but he was 98% cured > after his second treatment. It takes only a few minutes. What a relief > after two years of incredibly expensive, time consuming (and > ineffective) treatment. You can even do it yourself as there is a > self-administered form of the Epley maneuver. > > Read about BPPV here > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > John Hermanson wrote: >> I'm sorry to hear that Chuck. For my birthday on Wednesday 5/27, (57 >> btw), I saw a neurologist and she thinks I may have developed a case of >> vertigo. An MRI is next. The doctor also ordered an MRA, but the Blue >> Cross bean counters with their superior training decided I didn't need >> that. Wow, we're falling apart. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>> I saw the doc this morning. He just referred me to an orthopedist. I >>> suspect knee replacements are coming in the not so distant future. >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt >>> >>> Brian Swale wrote: >>>> Chuck wrote that his knees have suddenly gone downhill over the last 2 >>>> weeks. >>>> >>>> I hope the doc can make a real difference. Loss of mobility is not nice. >>>> >>>> Best wishes. >>>> >>>> Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:28:44 2009 Received: (qmail 18197 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:28:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:28:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509C4E1822B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFE3E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6878C19E501 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781E319E4A4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oice500@comkal.net whitelisted) Received: from ns2.comkal.net (ns2.comkal.net [203.29.18.139]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tardis.comkal.net (tardis.comkal.net [192.168.1.40]) by ns2.comkal.net (Weasel v1.7856) for ; 01 Jun 2009 22:28:29 +1000 Message-ID: <100.d0420b0069c9234a.029@comkal.net> From: "Ian Manners" To: "OM List" Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:28:25 +1000 (EST) Priority: Normal User-Agent: PMMail/3.04 (os/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; i386; ver 3.04.56.1360) X-Mailer: IanMail v2.1 for AIX v5.11/G5 Goody: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Evil bidder 6***6 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:28:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23c97c193111257536491 I have to ask, is the eboy bidder 6***6 with 228 of feedback on this list ? who ever it is they are certainly buying up a lot of OM gear both good and bad. And if anyone is expecting a reply to an email from me, sorry, had a few things happen so although I won't unsub from the list again just yet I need to concentrate on my mid distant past which has arrived in the present to ensure my future is interesting :-) Cheers Ian Manners http://www.comkal.net/ "Some would sooner die than think. In fact, they often do." -- Bertrand Russell -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:32:16 2009 Received: (qmail 16002 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:32:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:32:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B2EEDC03F for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D18E240CC for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D22A19E50D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:32:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2125B19E4FD for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:32:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp03.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 227.red-81-38-54.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.38.54.227]:51828 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay03.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.43]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MB6gN-0008V8-9x (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:32:03 +0100 Message-Id: <669F9D80-2711-4B4C-BC50-59317392E5CD@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <619972.23340.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:32:02 +0200 References: <619972.23340.qm@web31605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] This weeks pictures for fun - and it includes a beer X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:32:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23ca50313738512572685 Sorry, but having got used to Belgian beer, almost everything else tastes watery. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Jun 1, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Willie Wonka wrote: > Close, > > Northeast is leading the beer industry of the entire world. I wish > I could say the same about the wine... > > I just had the best ale in my entire life this weekend. > > Comes from here: > > http://www.oldeburnsidebrewing.com/index.html > > Northeast is literally littered with breweries and it is hard to > find bad beer. > > Having said that, one thing that you cant find in the US is a good > lager, especially like the ones brewed in the Southern and Eastern > Europe. Never had a Romanian beer, but had some excellent Czech, > Italian and Bulgarian...Sometimes I get Becks here to satisfy the > crave, but it is not as good. > Boris > >> The brew-pubs of the Pacific North West are leading the way in the >> beer world in my opinion. There is at least one expert on this >> list :-) >> >> Tom > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:35:27 2009 Received: (qmail 23100 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:35:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F26EDC019 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32001E24148 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC7919E53A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:34:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58C619E4FD for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:34:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK005AY81OFXC3@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:29:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23C9C1.1080907@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:29:53 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A20263D.9050302@tc.umn.edu> In-reply-to: <4A20263D.9050302@tc.umn.edu> Subject: Re: [OM] Front page photo! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:35:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23cb0f135651234514069 Big congratulations to you Dean! Good job. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Dean Hansen wrote: > A shot I took with my OM4T butterfly set-up made the front page of a > newspaper. OK, not the NY Times, but the Inter-County Leader, a > newspaper serving a few sparsely-populated (they're far more deer than > people) counties in NW Wisconsin. I led a couple weekend "butterfly > treks" to introduce people to the joys of observing butterflies in their > natural habitats, and this part of Wisconsin has some very interesting > pine/oak barrens, bogs, and sand prairies. Photo is at: > http://www.the-leader.net/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=61&twindow=Default&mad=No&sdetail=&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate > =&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc= > 1009&hn=the-leader&he=.net (Wow! Now that's a link!) Click on the link > for the rest of the story. > Dean > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 14:42:22 2009 Received: (qmail 30487 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 12:42:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 12:42:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29B1E182D0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E667E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A83234AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:42:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E32934AC023 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 14:42:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23ccae58942070262475 Thank you, mister. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Willie Wonka wrote: > Happy Birthday, John. > > 57 is still very young. > > Boris > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 15:10:42 2009 Received: (qmail 21424 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 13:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 13:10:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D15E182F4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9CFE240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2621134AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:10:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BE834AC023 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:10:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK001CT7VXCG10@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23C8F2.7040701@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:26:26 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A1EB517.3070907@chucknorcutt.com> <4A1EB8FD.6040002@verizon.net> <4A1FD564.9050206@verizon.net> <4A200B19.3020402@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4A200B19.3020402@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Oily 300/4.5. Suggestions? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 15:10:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23d352234882336821329 I have privately emailed you the pdf for the 300/4.5. Name ring often has 2 spanner notches in it and should just unscrew. I think name ring holds front element in place. The front lens group would come out next and is bigger than a big coffee mug. The diaphragm plate sits inside the main lens barrel and is held in by screws accessible only from the back, as I recall. Whatever the method is for attaching the diaphragm plate to the tube, it all comes out through the front. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Can the diaphragm assembly be accessed from the back alone? I've heard > back from the original questioner who said he could see no evidence of > glue on the name ring. However, he built a special friction tool with > dense foam glued to a shaped backing plate to remove the name ring. The > foam ripped off the backing plate when he tried to unscrew the ring. > > Chuck Norcutt > > John Hermanson wrote: >> I should have added that the front group MAY unscrew without any >> problems. If so, then all that remains is the disassembly of the >> diaphragm plate, thorough degreasing and rebuild. >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> John Hermanson wrote: >>> Remove front lens assembly, remove mount. There are (I think) 4 screws >>> accessible from the back that hold the diaphragm assembly plate in. >>> From the front, diaphragm cam, and some springs and levers may have to >>> come out first. The hardest part MAY be simply unscrewing the from >>> group. No set screws, just that many appear to be glued in. Even in >>> the 80s, I watched Japanese techs (with 300/4.5 in a full size vice) >>> with giant spanners trying to unscrew the front tube. It never budged >>> even after liquid wrench, alcohol, acetone, every solvent under the sun >>> was applied. Spanner eventually broke. Not really a do it at home job. >>> ___________________________________ >>> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >>> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >>> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >>> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >>> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >>> >>> >>> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >>>> Anyone have suggestions for disassembly of the 300/4.5 to clean up an >>>> oily diaphragm? Someone I know (not on this list) has one and asked if >>>> I had any tips for cleaning it. I gave him the parts list and exploded >>>> assembly diagram and an old note from Clint that says the whole >>>> diaphragm cage is to be removed as an assembly. But Clint's note didn't >>>> say anything about the best way to get in. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 15:12:17 2009 Received: (qmail 936 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 13:12:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 13:12:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E021AE182DA for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C412E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E27519E67D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:12:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574BD19E58E for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f158.google.com (mail-bw0-f158.google.com [209.85.218.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so7291391bwz.14 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.124.147 with SMTP id u19mr3179274far.28.1243861928798; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:12:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Second weekend in a row - steam trains this time. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 15:12:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23d3b1230681234514069 Last weekend was Ixion's annual trip to the Tallylynn Railway, for a ride up the valley on a chartered train, barbecue and beer. I also had a little tour or the Railway's engineering works, which gave ample opportunity for pictures of rusty old machinery. I made some room in my fotopic gallery for them: http://www.ian955.fotopic.net I also used one of my Minolta A-1s to do a time-lapse of the barbecue itself, just for fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDfse3vuqEc No, we didn't burn down the station, though there's enough smoke and very little of it is coming from the loco. -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 15:29:42 2009 Received: (qmail 13767 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 13:29:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 13:29:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7C6EDC037 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBA9E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8B934AC029 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:29:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CB134AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:29:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK00ALW9YOQOI0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:11:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23D374.6040406@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:11:16 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A1EB517.3070907@chucknorcutt.com> <4A1EB8FD.6040002@verizon.net> <4A1F0737.7010701@chucknorcutt.com> <4A1FDAE6.7050004@verizon.net> <4A20483C.9070504@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <4A20483C.9070504@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Alien 35-105? [was Oily 300/4.5. Suggestions?] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 15:29:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23d7c61069117217770 and referring to the parts list, majority of mechanical parts use "SC" prefix which to me has always meant "SubContractor". From a service standpoint, it's like comparing inner construction of the 310 flash with the T32, 2 completely unrelated approaches. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Moose wrote: > John Hermanson wrote: >> At least the plate has 3 screws holding it all together when you >> drop it back in. That is what tipped me off that the 35-105 zoom >> is definitely not Olympus built. The only screws holding all the >> blade parts in are the 3-4 screws that hold the blade assembly into >> the barrel. You have to ... >> > > I'm certainly in no position to argue with your expertise. I did make > a modest effort (i.e. no tear-downs) to check the persistent rumor > that it was a version of the similar spec Tokina. Here's my list of > comparison points: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ "I > can see where someone could at a casual look think they might be the > same underneath. They are very similar in size, weight and overall > appearance except for very different rubber focus/zoom ring covers. > On closer inspection, I note the following: > > 1. Coating reflections are different colors, indicating different > coating design/technology, and size/depths, indicating different > internal element shape/configuration. > > 2. Front mounting of the front element of the zooming group is > slightly different. > > 3. The Zuiko focusing helicoid takes considerably less rotation of > the focus/zoom ring to get to its minimum of 1.5m and than the Tokina > takes to go to its minimum of 1.6m > > 4. Zoom ring travel from 35-105mm is 20.8mm on the Zuik and 20.6mm > on the Tokina. > > 5. Although the close focus mechanism uses the same principle of > acting as an extension tube, the ring moves in opposite directions on > the 2 lenses, locks into CU position on the Zuiko, but not on the > Tokina and has a different extension length, 6.6mm on the Zuiko and > 8.3mm on the Tokina. > > 6. Both have 6 blade diaphrams that point their fingers clockwise, > but they are mounted opposite ways, with the fingers on the Zuiko > toward the front and the Tokina to the back. The Zuiko hexagon is > also a bit more symmetrical and consistent as it is stopped down. > > 7. The rear element of the Tokina is considerably larger and mounted > into its cell differently than the Zuiko. > > 8. The finish of the visible part of the mount is classic Oly matte > on the Zuiko and shiny on the Tokina. > > 9. The mechanisms that convey aperture setting to the pin on the > rear and operate the diaphram from the other pin on the rear are > quite different designs, with the Zuiko using the same basic design > as in other Zuikos I've had apart. > > 10. The Zuiko has 16 elements in 12 groups and the Tokina has 16 in > 13. > > 11. Ths Zuiko is styled pretty much like the 70-150 and 35-70/3.6 & > 35.-4.5 except fot the close-up ring, which isn't on those zooms, but > it is in the same relative position as the zoom rings on those 2 > touch models. I assume the otherwise odd design of the CU ring with > the groove around the middle is to differentiate it from the zoom > rings on the others. The Tokina is styled just like the other Tokina > zooms I have. Finish of the body surfaces is very similar. > > 12. The nose of the Tokina in front of the zoom ring is much shorter > than on the Zuiko, so the Oly hood doesn't clamp on as securely. The > Tokina hood is also a clamp-on design but is calculated for use with > a filter and uses something like an empty filter ring for the hood to > clamp onto when a filter isn't. The Oly solution of a clamp on hood > that doesn't interfere with filter use is much nicer. > > My conclusion? It is extremely unlikely that the Zuiko is an > adaptation of the Tokina. There are just too many differences that > wouldn't make sense if it were, especially things like reversing and > changing the length of travel of the CU helicoid, changing the pitch > of the focusing helicoid and changing the internal design of the auto > aperture mechanisms. It also really does appear to me from the > reflections that the internal elements differ quite a bit in surface > curvatures and/or locations." > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 15:54:47 2009 Received: (qmail 11970 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 13:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 13:54:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C077CEDC019 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94789E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A5C34AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C5934AC025 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f158.google.com (mail-bw0-f158.google.com [209.85.218.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so7317346bwz.14 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:54:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.57.18 with SMTP id a18mr5804025bkh.19.1243864474436; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 06:54:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531093013.0112d910@zuik.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090531093013.0112d910@zuik.net> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:54:34 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7fad372372b740bb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 15:54:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23dda7197161591313764 > > BTW, I may have some un-used plastic bottom pieces that came with > an original OM-4t and I will sell them to anyone for a mere $199.50 plus > shipping. I'm sure they can be used with an OM-3T. It could help protect > the camera while it sits in ones showcase, or help sell a slightly used > OM-3T for a super high price as a NIB. > All one has to do is see the scoring from being attached to a tripod to tell that a camera is used. I had thought about putting a piece of static-adhesive plastic on the bottom of the camera, but by the time I would have carved holes in the plastic for the battery compartment, motordrive advance, motordrive rewind, electrical contacts and the tripod socket I could read "War and Peace". Besides, if I really want to protect the bottom plate, that's what those MD2 motor drives are for. :) Last night I photographed the outside of the library for the documentation project. Equipment used: OM-4T, MD2, 35/shift, 300/4.5, red filter, tripod and cable release. Why the 4T instead of the 3Ti? Well, the 3Ti had other film already loaded in it and I needed to use PanF. But the wailing coming from the camera bag was mighty disconcerting. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 16:07:20 2009 Received: (qmail 12400 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 14:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 14:07:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24C0EDC017 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F26E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7540019E618 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CD319E845 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK007W9AA1YAZ2@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:18:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23D50E.1050807@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:18:06 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <12793289.6081243259641875.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A1ABE1D.8030500@verizon.net> <12167440.7591243326369730.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A1BE0AE.4040102@verizon.net> <4A1BE581.40606@adinet.com.uy> <4A1D2E51.20002@verizon.net> <4A20B61B.6020105@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <4A20B61B.6020105@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] A day using an OM is a good day indeed X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 16:07:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23e098265851342116753 Business has picked up again. I am thankful for that, and thankful that my dad did not try to stop me from fixing that lens way back when. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Moose wrote: > John Hermanson wrote: >> Sand in a lens 40 years ago got me interested in camera service. I >> was on vacation with my parents on the Cape of Cod :-) when sand >> got in the lens on my new Nikon F ( a Vivitar 135mm f2.8). Focus >> jammed solid. I had a set of small screwdrivers with me, took the >> focus helicoid apart(with support and guidance from dad), cleaned >> the grit out, and reassembled it. >> > > Well then, bless the sand. :-) > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 16:17:21 2009 Received: (qmail 5789 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 14:17:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 14:17:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E4EDC01B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DC5E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD19034AC027 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:17:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5434AC024 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:17:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK00GWZD0CUDQA@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:17:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23E2E0.9010901@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:17:04 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <0BFAF16350534BAF897C3B0531CAC4D4@daingtanfxkwk9> <2BC2BF7C-91B5-4A70-BA60-110A56C5A892@roadrunner.com> In-reply-to: <2BC2BF7C-91B5-4A70-BA60-110A56C5A892@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 16:17:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23e2f1214921585427447 Gorgeous sample. I tried to justify buying one right at the end, when dealer net was $1600. My CFO wouldn't approve it. DOH! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Bob Whitmire wrote: > On May 31, 2009, at 3:27 AM, Darin wrote: > >> It could also be the difference >> between keeping the electricity on and food on the table for several >> months, >> or having a sweet arse camera. Which would you choose? > > The hardcore shooter would, of course, choose the camera. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 16:26:42 2009 Received: (qmail 27043 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 14:26:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 14:26:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C831E182F4 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4E3E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E4919E91C for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:26:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A685019E90A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:26:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK00JU4BQGXIF4@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:49:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23DC6C.2070509@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:49:32 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <5D9324AF66264708966D184770D54C6D@MAIN> In-reply-to: <5D9324AF66264708966D184770D54C6D@MAIN> Subject: Re: [OM] Oily 300/4.5. Suggestions? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 16:26:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23e522217891234514069 I've seen Cosina lens quality and FWIR (from what I recall) it's not even close to 35-105 quality. I have always thought Tokina. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html C.H.Ling wrote: > It is highly possible from Tokina. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Crawford" > >> I'd always wondered if the 35-105 had been made by someone else. It didn't >> quite look like a real Olympus lens. The ring you turn to put it in close >> focus mode looks like something from an off brand lens. >> >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-747-5101 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >> >> >> >> On 5/29/09 8:53 AM, "John Hermanson" wrote: >> >>> Even if the front group unscrews easily (and it may), it's still a big >>> job. The diaphragm plate has to come completely apart and all parts >>> degreased. >>> >>> At least the plate has 3 screws holding it all together when you drop it >>> back in. That is what tipped me off that the 35-105 zoom is definitely >>> not Olympus built. The only screws holding all the blade parts in are >>> the 3-4 screws that hold the blade assembly into the barrel. You have to >>> get all the blades in place, put the cover plate on (no screws holding >>> it on), set it all on top of a large diameter dowel and lower lens >>> barrel down around it. Align it with holes in the barrel and get screws >>> in before the blades fall out. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 16:37:50 2009 Received: (qmail 26174 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 14:37:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 14:37:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24439EDC020 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92F6E240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB75834AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7AC34AC027 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK005Z0BH4UAA8@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23DB1D.3020008@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:43:57 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Oily 300/4.5. Suggestions? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 16:37:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23e7be65101702588592 Oily diaphragm may eventually spray a fine coating of oil all over the 2 elements that face it. If there's enough oil on the blades, the mirror will go up, the lever is pushed on the back of the lens, shutter fires but does so without the blades stopping down (that's an extreme case). ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > Hi Chuck, John and all, > > >> From: Chuck Norcutt > > > >> Anyone have suggestions for disassembly of the 300/4.5 to clean up an oily >> diaphragm? > > > As oir technician says, it seems to be a difficult job. However, your > friend should check whether his lens is performing OK or not, despite the > oily iris. According to my experience, non-OM lenses with oily diaphragms > are nearly useless due to unexpected overexposure, but oil on OM lenses > seems to be harmless. > > I have at least three oily Zuikos: 1) an MC 50/1.8, 2) a 50/1.2 and, guess > which, 3) the 300/4.5. But the only malfunction they show is: > > 1) Iris closes OK, but after the shot opens slowly, in about a second. Thus > the viewfinder doesn't recover its full brightness until that second -- > affects NOTHING. > > 2) Iris may close a bit slower, but shutter alwas opens when the diaphragm > is already at the specified aperture -- that means a very slight delay with > trigger action, but seems no worse than a modern wonderbrick. > > 3) Iris closes OK, but sometimes doesn't fully open after the exposure. Safe > for a slightly dimmer vierfinder, doesn't affect OTF exposure at all. It > will throw off 'standard' meter reading (ike the OM-1) but could be solver > with a quick twist of the aperture ring to the widest setting. > > > If you hold most non-OM lenses in your hand, they'll be already at the > specified setting. If you move the auto-diaphragm pin at the mount, the iris > will be fully open; and when you release that pin, a spring on the lens will > return the pin at its 'closed' setting -- that is, the shooting aperture. > > When mounted on the body, the auto-diaphragm lever on that cameras will keep > the pin pressed, in order to get the brightest viewfinder. When you shoot, > the camera moves that lever, *releasing* the pin on the lens, letting the > (comparatively weak) spring move it to the shooting aperture. Obviously, if > that movement is braked by oil on the iris blades, it may not get to the > correct aperture whe the shutter trips, leading to overexposure. > > OTOH, most (if not all) Zuiko OM lenses are constructed the opposite way: in > your hand, the iris will be fully open, you have to move the auto-diaphragm > pin at the mount in order to close it -- or press the DoF preview button, > which does exactly the same. When releasing the pin, the (weak) spring on > the lens will open the iris again, maybe slowly -- but that's *after* the > exposure, so not much of a problem. > > In the camera, the auto-diaphragm lever normally doesn't touch the pin... > until the camera is triggered, when a (rather strong) spring will raise that > lever, together with raising the mirror and moving the auto-pin on the lens > -- yes, that will close the iris simultaneously. A great thing on the design > of OM bodies (the 2SP and the 40/PC being the exceptions) is that the > shutter won't trip until the lever is fully up, which also means the mirror > is up AND the iris is already at shooting aperture. In extreme cases, the > lens may delay the rising of the body's auto-lever, but in any case the > exposure won't start until it has reached its final position -- the shot may > be sightly delayed, but properly exposed. > > > Please note that some aftermarket OM-mount lenses may be just a conversion > of a standard mechanism, where "pressing" the auto-pin may just _release_ an > internal lever with an even weaker spring, thus having the same problems of > non-OM lenses... > > Cheers, -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 16:38:26 2009 Received: (qmail 31659 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 14:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 14:38:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731CDEDC018 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE1CE240C3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8D434AC027 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C425D34AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.46]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KKK005PNCJOUAC8@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:07:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A23E089.9020801@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:07:05 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <97310.22723.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <97310.22723.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Vertigo and BPPV, was: Glendenning's garden X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 16:38:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23e7e289629347015869 Thank you, feel much better since the lopressor prescription was cut back a second time. We'll no more after the MRI, but the neurologist thinks it's an inner ear problem. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html AS wrote: > John, > > Sorry to hear about this. Hang in there. > > - Ali > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 17:35:56 2009 Received: (qmail 3732 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 15:35:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 15:35:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178FDEDC03B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D69E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23A34AC028 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD0234AC02A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:35:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 08:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 227.red-81-38-54.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.38.54.227]:52293 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MB9Y6-0008Qm-Je (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:35:42 +0100 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A23C5E7.90809@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:35:41 +0200 References: <28109744-B6A2-4889-8DD7-AADDBD4C98B4@frozenlight.eu> <4A23C5E7.90809@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/06/2009: my first panorama X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 17:35:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a23f55c85081234514069 Thanks Chuck, and I am sure you are right. 23 exposures for 180 degrees with a 50mm lens (OK, 65mm once the M8's sensor factor is taken into account) is way too much overlap. Fortunately, my iMac has enough horsepower to cope with it, but in the future I will be more careful about keeping the overlap to the recommended 20-30%. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Jun 1, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I think you should be able to accomplish the same shot with about 1/2 > the number of exposures. From the dimensions given it appears you > must > have been overlapping the frames by about 2/3. That may be > necessary in > areas where there is little detail but, in most cases, an overlap of > about 1/3 is adequate. If the only things in the photo were the grass > and trees in the foreground (which can move a bit with the wind) > then a > 2/3 overlap might have been required or at least would have assisted > the > software. But the very rigid and rectangular lines of the buildings > in > the background give plenty of info for the software to use for > accurate > positioning. With lots of rigid detail you may even be successful > with > as little as 10% overlap but that's probably pushing it. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Since I am spending so much time at home during my recovery, I am >> reading a lot, catch up on movies bought but not yet watched, and in >> general trying to do something sensible with my time. This morning, >> inspired by a magazine article, I decided to try my hand at >> panoramas. >> So I dragged my tripod and the M8 with the 50mm Summilux up to my >> roof >> terrace and took pictures of the golf course. I then stitched the >> images together using Photoshop's Photomerge feature. This image is >> made from 23 individual images. The full-size image is 18222 x 3432 >> pixels. I will definitely explore this technique in the future with >> more interesting landscapes than our golf course! >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#551631182_eADen-O-LB >> (on the web, I made the image 1200 pixels wide; if you have to >> scroll, >> close the Original view and try Large or X-Large instead) >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 18:33:46 2009 Received: (qmail 6943 invoked by uid 0); 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Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 88905 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2009 16:33:40 -0000 Message-ID: <89828.87962.qm@web31606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Q8nlQJkVM1kwXQwloh8UTNIbemFaRIMPYHsqBIjGoEXjFqEd3qgxXXhzDES_xJQ.HD8zF0yb3_Kb3qQBB6EUf9GMIZ9.1xVsTnGh9IQrGGT588grxFhd4vzHZpaKJ5crrGVsUXvdNNwFz.QjGuQHXcp4XVxc2BsLmcrxs47h84.8WHn.bXC5WvywWjm7jJbOzpDzxAlHl3esLDg7IHN4VyiHkD2iuMpBtdPACKKJHFf1azxdrEn8wFTCk7n3Zay57dOwrBwfAa60uUuEKAh8viVWCHmgLvwB9BlcHi5j0eFRv8MU6sBo Received: from [199.46.154.96] by web31606.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:33:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.3.9 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Willie Wonka To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This weeks pictures for fun - and it includes a beer X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 18:33:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2402ea143761838542571 I dont really subscribe to the notion that one style of beer is superior to= other.=A0 My belief is that there is a beer for every occasion.=A0 To me, = beer is either good or bad, price usually has to do something with it....= =A0 I rarely drink non-murkin beer anymore for the simple reason that some = microbreweries around here put out beer at least as good (if not better)tha= t would satisfy the superior taste of even the most discriminating European= ...:) =A0 Boris =A0 P.S.=A0 I think that the official list term for lagers is "grassy beer" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >Sorry, but having got used to Belgian beer, almost everything else=A0 = >tastes watery. > >Nathan = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 18:34:30 2009 Received: (qmail 22963 invoked by uid 0); 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Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MBASB-0002i2-BW for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:33:39 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:33:32 +0100 Message-ID: <361BF35F2FF44CF9AB510817C56938B4@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acnh0NdlRrhazgRRS1CiVie8R5AyqQBBLtCw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 31/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 18:34:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a24031619229347015869 I am in agreement with you, CH, though I have kept only a 1, 2n and 40 (PC) - th elast because it isn't worth my time disposing of it. All the other OM bodies have gone, including my own "object of beauty" which sold through a dealer with two days, despite my insistence that they up the price by 20%. They did so, and I wish I had asked for more! But this here "object of beauty" appears to be missing the strap (see the empty slots at the top of the card insert), possibly the grip (see the empty aperture on the left of the card insert), and I see no sign of the film plane insert, so I couldn't possible accept the seven word description as accurate. Piers -----Original Message----- From: C.H.Ling [mailto:ch_photo@accura.com.hk] Sent: 31 May 2009 10:18 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] An object of beauty Not to mention $3500, even the price when it was first introduced here at $1250 I considered it too expensive. I bought my 4Ti new at $550 which was much more reasonable. For sentimental reason, I love my OM4 much more, which was part of the whole set I purchased from a professional documentary photographer. Needless to say it sees heavy uses, the copper exposed is just like gold shinning out from the black. I'm now keeping an OM1n, 2n, 3 and 4 they each represented the golden ages of OM System. The 4Ti and 3Ti representing the end of the OM age, I don't have much feel about them. If I have to spend more on the OM System it will be lenses not camera, adding a 180/2 would be nice. To me there is no different between OM4 or 3Ti, for using flash my standard setting is manual shutter + auto flash except insect macro where TTL is my only option but the slow speed sync feature in 3Ti is not necessary. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Crawford" > $3500 is twice what that camera cost new, so it isn't even a used/vs > new price thing. I'm stingy. In the extreme. There are only 2 things I > will spend money in large amounts on: Film, and my son. I'm not stingy > with either of those things. If I can afford it, I buy film in large > quantities to keep for when I don't have money, and if my son wants > something and I can afford it, I get it for him even if it is 'too > expensive'. I never spend money on 'me'. My cameras are all old. My > clothes are too, though I am going to have to buy a new pair of shoes > soon much as it pains me to spend money on that. I'll do it, my legs > hurt when my shoes get badly worn, but I'll complain about having > wasted good money that could have been spent for film. > > And I won't ever pay twice as much as something cost new. Ever. > > LOL! > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 18:59:59 2009 Received: (qmail 15961 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 16:59:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 16:59:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E489EDC02D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E35E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C4219EAA6 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF1219ED5E for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f158.google.com (mail-bw0-f158.google.com [209.85.218.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so7432804bwz.14 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.182.3 with SMTP id j3mr3253862mup.115.1243875591980; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:59:51 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ec3007285c906dd Message-ID: <9f07ac840906010959l6b19467cscc6dcc7d1759ac2@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] [OT] best movie I've seen this millenium! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 18:59:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a24090f307229347015869 Sorry if I'm late to the party - just saw Star Trek - two big thumbs up! If you were a fan of the original (real) Star Trek with James T Kirk and Spock etc, you'll LOVE it!Live long and prosper! Jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 19:37:15 2009 Received: (qmail 20283 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 17:37:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 17:37:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0018EDC039 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49F1E240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CD319EE43 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB8819EE42 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B170231408D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB2431408B for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A2411C6.9070908@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:37:10 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090531-0, 05/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] This weeks pictures for fun - and it includes a beer X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 19:37:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2411cb251441744846740 > > the NorCal-Oregon-Washington axis. > As a typical example the brewery here is no slouch and only serves the local population of a few thousand + tourists. They have dillusions of a wider distribution and fame but so far that hasn't happened.We drink it all. Of course ya'll are welcome to help. :-) Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Jun 1 19:54:45 2009 Received: (qmail 22229 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2009 17:54:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Jun 2009 17:54:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EA2EDC039 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E61CE240B0 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7519E34AC033 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B322234AC026 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jan@bytesmiths.com whitelisted) Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com (zz20920578096.cipherkey.net [209.205.78.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073DA2FFCD08 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bytesmiths.com Received: from mail.bytesmiths.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dns.bytesmiths.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fTRHK2HvQHtR for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from create.bytesmiths.com (create.bytesmiths.com [209.205.78.97]) by mail.bytesmiths.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA972FFCCF9 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Jan Steinman To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:54:34 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] (OT) Web Page Design (was: High Noon) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Jun 1 19:54:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a2415e516521585427447 > From: "CyberSimian" > > Of the pages that I visit, my estimate would be 40-50% of them show > minor > defects, and 10-20% show major defects. What browser and version are you using? Some browsers make "defects" easily visible, while others are somewhat successful in papering them over. At least one popular browser *requires* certain HTML coding "defects" (in other words, not conforming to W3C standards) in order to render a page without the visual defects to which you refer. Would you call a page that renders properly on a W3C-conforming browser "defective" because it doesn't display properly on a browser that does not conform to standards? Or should everyone be expected to sprinkle "if ($browser = 'MSIE')