From nilsf Sat Aug 1 00:21:01 2009 Received: (qmail 10053 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 22:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 22:21:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C49E18236 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38502E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A4B34AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:20:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F4D34AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6VMKtj7009237 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:55 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d52.523f9b7f (14467) for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:53 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:20:53 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Not a steal, and not a bad deal on Black OM 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 00:21:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a736e4d87761006886880 eBay number 360169275590. Looks to be in nice shape and BIN at $395. I'm semi-tempted, so please someone else beat me to it. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 00:29:10 2009 Received: (qmail 23804 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 22:29:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 22:29:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67604E18065 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA7EE240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A34F34AC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE4934AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl40.gs02.gridserver.com (cl40.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:54600 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl40.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MX0b0-0005DK-A0 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:29:04 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:29:07 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Not a steal, and not a bad deal on Black OM 4T Thread-Index: AcoSLlD8j2uPRn4hEd6OwAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Not a steal, and not a bad deal on Black OM 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 00:29:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73703657153900897491 Buy it Bill! Oh wait, that's enableing, not preventing. Well I have 3 of them now so I don't need another. You might as well get it. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 7/31/09 6:20 PM, "NSURIT@aol.com" wrote: > eBay number 360169275590. Looks to be in nice shape and BIN at $395. I'm > semi-tempted, so please someone else beat me to it. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 00:32:43 2009 Received: (qmail 7088 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 22:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 22:32:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B59E1805F for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10427E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0022B34AC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6902B34AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m22.mail.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-m22.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a7370ef89; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:32:15 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c14.6809a471 (14467) for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:32:10 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Not a steal, and not a bad deal on Black OM 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 00:32:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73710b272715034211378 Well, you are two ahead of me and I don't need another, really I don't. If I were to buy it then I would sell by champagne one and be back to one. Could probably do that and then all my OMs would be Black. That does make a difference doesn't it? No, I don't need to do this. Bill Barber In a message dated 7/31/2009 5:29:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com writes: Buy it Bill! Oh wait, that's enableing, not preventing. Well I have 3 of them now so I don't need another. You might as well get it. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 7/31/09 6:20 PM, "NSURIT@aol.com" wrote: > eBay number 360169275590. Looks to be in nice shape and BIN at $395. I'm > semi-tempted, so please someone else beat me to it. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 00:33:51 2009 Received: (qmail 29338 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 22:33:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 22:33:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361E8E18256 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAF2E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CE534AC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:33:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886934AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:33:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6VMXjmH005558 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:45 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bd1.5b36a0c9 (37163) for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA042-5bbb4a737143163; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:41 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-DY12 (webmail-dy12.sim.aol.com [205.188.185.147]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA032-5bbb4a737143163; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:39 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:39 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.212.90.254 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 64.212.90.254 by WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com (205.188.185.147) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:39 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 00:33:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73714f35181234514069 Was poking around a link from the Cosina -Voigtlander dealer in Malaysia who amazingly remembered where there was a nest of Big Foots in Tokyo (CV125 macro) and ran into theses pics on a G1. I have seen (?Dean) use cine lenses reversed on OM for super high Mag. I though the registration distance migh tbe a bit short even for MFT but they seem usuable. Never have seen swirl bokeh before. Might be like HDR-- a few go a long way and then queasiness sets in. Mike http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497450 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 00:37:34 2009 Received: (qmail 16640 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 22:37:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 22:37:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AA9E1805F for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22347E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DD819FDF8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:37:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594FE19FDF5 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:37:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10453 invoked by uid 502); 31 Jul 2009 22:37:25 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-182-129.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.182.129) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 31 Jul 2009 22:37:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4A73721C.4080604@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:37:16 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7230CF.27970.DCDE5B@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4A7230CF.27970.DCDE5B@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) a little bit of geography X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 00:37:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73722e313511946193717 Brian Swale wrote: > The image was already highly modified. > > The foreground field vegetation should have been a greyish straw colour, after many weeks of frost. But the high contrast due to the sun and snow, gave the digicam a difficult time of it. > > I am about to upload yet another image which is the original modified only by several resizings and mild sharpening; and you will see what I started out with. I had decided to show the hills and snow, and the rest could fend for itself. > I didn't play with color or saturation at all. Colors that were already there may have become more obvious. The less processed one is actually quite a bit easier to work with. As to the ability of the camera to deal with colour accurately, I see in the EXIF that the WB is set to Custom. I don't know how you have that set, but suspect a simple Daylight setting might have given better colour. Any setting that adjusts to "correct" color will tend to lose the special quality of the light. As to the brightness range, there is no way shooting in JPEG is likely to capture it all effectively on many digicams. Some aren't so bad, as they compress, rather than clip. Here, though, much of the sky is hard clipped, with large areas pure white. I've never used an E-3, but I imagine that, like other contemporary DSLRs, shooting to the right in RAW at ISO 100, here probably -2/3 to -1 EV, would capture the whole range. It would require bringing up the shadows in conversion or post to get a pleasing result. Or, if working on a tripod, one could simply exposure bracket and combine sky from one with land from the other. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 01:03:18 2009 Received: (qmail 18503 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 23:03:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 23:03:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6B5EDC02A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8084DE240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568BD19FE2C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E8B19FE2A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl40.gs02.gridserver.com (cl40.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.49]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:54685 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl40.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MX183-000580-Eb for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:03:12 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:03:16 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Not a steal, and not a bad deal on Black OM 4T Thread-Index: AcoSMxZJVMXAln4mEd6DXAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Not a steal, and not a bad deal on Black OM 4T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 01:03:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a737836233167801554290 You only have one? Well you need at least two. LOL -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 7/31/09 6:32 PM, "NSURIT@aol.com" wrote: > Well, you are two ahead of me and I don't need another, really I don't. > If I were to buy it then I would sell by champagne one and be back to one. > Could probably do that and then all my OMs would be Black. That does make > a difference doesn't it? No, I don't need to do this. Bill Barber > > > > In a message dated 7/31/2009 5:29:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com writes: > > Buy it Bill! Oh wait, that's enableing, not preventing. Well I have 3 of > them now so I don't need another. You might as well get it. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:29:01 2009 Received: (qmail 16578 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:28:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:28:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B604BEDC00F for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2A8E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1FC34AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318F34AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8254 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 01:28:50 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1 review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:29:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739a5d145381879814018 Anybody at Oly listening? Snap up this designer. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > I don't see why, as you suggest, in firmware they couldn't add > multispot and just allow up to 8+ readings and then use the AEL button > for the lock -- one press to lock and a second press to put it in > memo. Seems pretty easy in terms of existing functionality.. > > Joel W. > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Chuck > Norcutt wrote: >> Maybe its the need for control buttons. The bodies don't have enough >> but are already too busy. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Joel Wilcox wrote: >>> Most digital shooters work from the histogram and are not trying to >>> make the image data fit correctly within a 5 stop range to the same >>> degree as one must in shooting transparencies. Interestingly, the >>> later E's have a highlight spot setting which I've found to be very >>> effective. If you have any significant clouds for which you need >>> detail, this feature works very well. But that's different from >>> multispot. >>> >>> I wish I had multispot on the E-3. I guess Olympus threw itself into >>> better exposure control via ESP, which is certainly very good. Also, >>> a single spot on the OM-2S is pretty effective, and there is the >>> equivalent of that in the E system. It's hard to make the case that >>> exposure control in the E system is defective without multispot, but >>> I'd still like it. >>> >>> Joel W. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Chuck >>> Norcutt wrote: >>>> And inquiring minds have long wondered why not. The firmware to do that >>>> would be trivial for todays cameras. >>>> >>>> Chuck Norcutt >>>> >>>> >>>> Joel Wilcox wrote: >>>>> But then even that's not >>>>> really a fair comparison in all respects since no E-body can do >>>>> multispot readings. >>>>> >>>>> Joel W. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:33:28 2009 Received: (qmail 5113 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:33:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:33:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0060E1806A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7563E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB8719FF55 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035A919FF4A for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10772 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 01:33:19 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:33:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739b68123429730998309 My Sekonic is about 4 years old and still works like a charm. I know Minolta meters are excellent but I wouldn't buy one unless it had the flash/ambient feature of the Sekonic. I don't know whether Minolta ever had that or not. Chuck Norcutt Sue Pearce wrote: > I have an older Minolta meter that has been flawless, unlide the Sekonic > that failed within minutes of the expiration of the warranty, and was > treated like crap by MAC. > > I underssstand that someone bought the meter line from Minolta and is making > them again. I'd do it in a minute. I'd even look at good used examples from > KEH. > > Billl PEarce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Wilcox" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus > E-P1review on DPR") > > > Thanks, Chuck, I think you' ve written about this meter before, as I > discovered it's in my B&H wishlist already. I guess I was hoping that > if I left it there long enough the price would go down, but no such > luck! > > Joel W. > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Chuck > Norcutt wrote: >> I believe the L-328 had been discontinued. I don't know its specs but, >> of current models, I would recommend the L-358 (which may be the L-328's >> replacement). The reason to be quite specific is that the L-358 >> measures both flash and ambient simultaneously and reports the >> percentage of flash to total in 10% increments. When you have 20-30% >> flash you have a good fill flash ratio. Since I don't use my studio >> lights much anymore about 90% of my meter's usage is fill flash. From >> memory, I believe the L-358 to be the lowest cost Sekonic meter with >> this feature. It also has provision for an optional, internal >> PocketWizard transmitter module. I have the transmitter module since it >> was included free at the time I bought my L-358 but I don't use >> PocketWizards (too expensive). >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:39:35 2009 Received: (qmail 2254 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:39:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:39:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0369E182B1 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A0E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3756434AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:39:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCED934AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:39:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13675 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 01:39:28 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@68.111.0.66) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Aug 2009 01:39:28 -0000 Message-ID: <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:39:27 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:39:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739cd7141776789618724 Yikes, I was getting seasick from the "bokeh". I which I knew the name of the white flower. There is one that is the same or extremely similar that grows in the Florida Everglades, near the boundary between cypress swamp and marsh. I can't remember it's name either and I'm about 600 miles away from my Florida plants library. Chuck Norcutt usher99@aol.com wrote: > Was poking around a link from the Cosina -Voigtlander dealer in > Malaysia who amazingly remembered where there was a nest of Big Foots > in Tokyo (CV125 macro) and ran into theses pics on a G1. I have seen > (?Dean) use cine lenses reversed on OM for super high Mag. > I though the registration distance migh tbe a bit short even for MFT > but they seem usuable. Never have seen swirl bokeh before. > Might be like HDR-- a few go a long way and then queasiness sets in. > > Mike > > > > > http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497450 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:41:06 2009 Received: (qmail 14066 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:41:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F8E182AE for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A528FE240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1EC19FF5C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F77319FF60 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl39.gs02.gridserver.com (cl39.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:54874 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl39.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MX3ak-0002hV-9A for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:40:59 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:41:03 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1review on DPR") Thread-Index: AcoSSSEOX2zh5H48Ed6dEwAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <4A739B5E.80708@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:41:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739d3281736107113666 Minolta actually invented that back in the 80's with the Flash Meter IV Sekonic didn't offer a meter that told the ratio of flash to ambient until a few yrs ago. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 7/31/09 9:33 PM, "Chuck Norcutt" wrote: > My Sekonic is about 4 years old and still works like a charm. I know > Minolta meters are excellent but I wouldn't buy one unless it had the > flash/ambient feature of the Sekonic. I don't know whether Minolta ever > had that or not. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Sue Pearce wrote: >> I have an older Minolta meter that has been flawless, unlide the Sekonic >> that failed within minutes of the expiration of the warranty, and was >> treated like crap by MAC. >> >> I underssstand that someone bought the meter line from Minolta and is making >> them again. I'd do it in a minute. I'd even look at good used examples from >> KEH. >> >> Billl PEarce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joel Wilcox" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus >> E-P1review on DPR") >> >> >> Thanks, Chuck, I think you' ve written about this meter before, as I >> discovered it's in my B&H wishlist already. I guess I was hoping that >> if I left it there long enough the price would go down, but no such >> luck! >> >> Joel W. >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Chuck >> Norcutt wrote: >>> I believe the L-328 had been discontinued. I don't know its specs but, >>> of current models, I would recommend the L-358 (which may be the L-328's >>> replacement). The reason to be quite specific is that the L-358 >>> measures both flash and ambient simultaneously and reports the >>> percentage of flash to total in 10% increments. When you have 20-30% >>> flash you have a good fill flash ratio. Since I don't use my studio >>> lights much anymore about 90% of my meter's usage is fill flash. From >>> memory, I believe the L-358 to be the lowest cost Sekonic meter with >>> this feature. It also has provision for an optional, internal >>> PocketWizard transmitter module. I have the transmitter module since it >>> was included free at the time I bought my L-358 but I don't use >>> PocketWizards (too expensive). >>> >> s&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=jsp%2Fproductlist.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t& >>> Go.x=20&Go.y=15&Go=submit> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:44:02 2009 Received: (qmail 11393 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:44:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA418E181B2 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF4BE240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097F319FF6B for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:43:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFD719FF68 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15775 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 01:43:54 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) a little bit of geography X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:44:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739de2175721136683642 Ah, that's better. But I'm not sure about the haze in the foreground hills. I don't know if it's real or an artifact. Oops. I just realized I'm on the Krappy-Kolor laptop so no telling what it really looks like. :-) Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Brian Swale wrote: >> The image was already highly modified. >> >> The foreground field vegetation should have been a greyish straw colour, after many weeks of frost. But the high contrast due to the sun and snow, gave the digicam a difficult time of it. >> >> I am about to upload yet another image which is the original modified only by several resizings and mild sharpening; and you will see what I started out with. I had decided to show the hills and snow, and the rest could fend for itself. >> > > I didn't play with color or saturation at all. Colors that were already > there may have become more obvious. > > The less processed one is actually quite a bit easier to work with. > > > As to the ability of the camera to deal with colour accurately, I see in > the EXIF that the WB is set to Custom. I don't know how you have that > set, but suspect a simple Daylight setting might have given better > colour. Any setting that adjusts to "correct" color will tend to lose > the special quality of the light. > > As to the brightness range, there is no way shooting in JPEG is likely > to capture it all effectively on many digicams. Some aren't so bad, as > they compress, rather than clip. Here, though, much of the sky is hard > clipped, with large areas pure white. > > I've never used an E-3, but I imagine that, like other contemporary > DSLRs, shooting to the right in RAW at ISO 100, here probably -2/3 to -1 > EV, would capture the whole range. It would require bringing up the > shadows in conversion or post to get a pleasing result. > > Or, if working on a tripod, one could simply exposure bracket and > combine sky from one with land from the other. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:45:26 2009 Received: (qmail 3558 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:45:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:45:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B01FE180B5 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BB4E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5739A19FF70 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:45:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0D19FF6F for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:45:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 17 days 06:09:37 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-24-57.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.24.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n711jC1Z009800 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:45:13 -0300 Message-ID: <4A739E53.3070000@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:45:55 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0907300541h355cd519p7cad36e917c56cb5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907300944h4a083a98m4d4fe540771bf611@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907301003s7dff981chfa13c3300b605f27@mail.gmail.com> <159208.76493.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A71DB6F.30003@ctgonline.org> <996935.66650.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7215C4.1010504@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7215C4.1010504@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] RIP Yoshihisa Maitani X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:45:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739e3637081234514069 Same thought ... too young. :-( Fernando Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Born 1933. Only 76 years old. Too young. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Stephen Walker wrote: > >> Oops.. >> >> Here it is, untranslated: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/nakm9y >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 03:49:14 2009 Received: (qmail 25925 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 01:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 01:49:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E53E1822C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B48E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC7B34AC011 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:49:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA22034AC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:49:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18362 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 01:49:08 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 03:49:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a739f1a179471073733319 Thanks. All I know is that it doesn't appear on all flash meters. My Sekonic meter is at least 4 years old and possibly five so it has been around longer than you think. Tempus fugit, eh? Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > Minolta actually invented that back in the 80's with the Flash Meter IV > > Sekonic didn't offer a meter that told the ratio of flash to ambient until a > few yrs ago. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 04:12:21 2009 Received: (qmail 30498 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 02:12:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 02:12:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB84EDC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30584E240B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D934AC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D745734AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (montsnmags@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so4103175gxk.14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.225.7 with SMTP id x7mr3217837ang.172.1249092735279; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> From: Marc Lawrence Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:11:55 +1000 Message-ID: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 04:12:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73a48559656107113666 I don't know what their botanical name is, but here we call them "spider li= ly". Hold on, I'll just google... Google says Hymenocallis littoralis. Cheers, Marc 2009/8/1 Chuck Norcutt : > Yikes, I was getting seasick from the "bokeh". =A0I which I knew the name > of the white flower. =A0There is one that is the same or extremely similar > that grows in the Florida Everglades, near the boundary between cypress > swamp and marsh. =A0I can't remember it's name either and I'm about 600 > miles away from my Florida plants library. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 05:49:09 2009 Received: (qmail 7355 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 03:49:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 03:49:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74239EDC01C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73787E240E1 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E92B34AC011 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:49:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C55734AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao106.cox.net (eastrmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.240.48]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090801034900.GRGO29503.eastrmmtao106.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:49:00 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id Nroy1c0034Z9Gks02royh8; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:48:58 -0400 X-VR-Score: -200.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cATQUux61g4A:10 a=ybss8LRuAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JLWaRogUAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=lXH1TQg55q7mFCDiPZYA:9 a=38JLsq0goEk2j22ILKMA:7 a=ixmABlf6ePXWPtpcXIhcKOCLZHgA:4 a=3zq07fkmrvEA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <72E1AF52A09243D9AEF8E9011DD21F63@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9e908c1f0907300541h355cd519p7cad36e917c56cb5@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907300944h4a083a98m4d4fe540771bf611@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907301003s7dff981chfa13c3300b605f27@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907310507r7a98f1a5yb19c3f3f7c5e0367@mail.gmail.com><4A72E1DF.1000601@chucknorcutt.com> <9e908c1f0907311109y1522dd21vc51ac6b34d5567a4@mail.gmail.com> <4A739B5E.80708@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:48:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 05:49:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73bb35128761076813867 Yes, mine is a cheaper version and it has it too. The big ones do as well. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus E-P1review on DPR") > My Sekonic is about 4 years old and still works like a charm. I know > Minolta meters are excellent but I wouldn't buy one unless it had the > flash/ambient feature of the Sekonic. I don't know whether Minolta ever > had that or not. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Sue Pearce wrote: >> I have an older Minolta meter that has been flawless, unlide the Sekonic >> that failed within minutes of the expiration of the warranty, and was >> treated like crap by MAC. >> >> I underssstand that someone bought the meter line from Minolta and is >> making >> them again. I'd do it in a minute. I'd even look at good used examples >> from >> KEH. >> >> Billl PEarce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joel Wilcox" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "Olympus >> E-P1review on DPR") >> >> >> Thanks, Chuck, I think you' ve written about this meter before, as I >> discovered it's in my B&H wishlist already. I guess I was hoping that >> if I left it there long enough the price would go down, but no such >> luck! >> >> Joel W. >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Chuck >> Norcutt wrote: >>> I believe the L-328 had been discontinued. I don't know its specs but, >>> of current models, I would recommend the L-358 (which may be the L-328's >>> replacement). The reason to be quite specific is that the L-358 >>> measures both flash and ambient simultaneously and reports the >>> percentage of flash to total in 10% increments. When you have 20-30% >>> flash you have a good fill flash ratio. Since I don't use my studio >>> lights much anymore about 90% of my meter's usage is fill flash. From >>> memory, I believe the L-358 to be the lowest cost Sekonic meter with >>> this feature. It also has provision for an optional, internal >>> PocketWizard transmitter module. I have the transmitter module since it >>> was included free at the time I bought my L-358 but I don't use >>> PocketWizards (too expensive). >>> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.38/2274 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 06:35:51 2009 Received: (qmail 11648 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 04:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 04:35:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563E7EDC033 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A9CE240E0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885B134AC00E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D780E34AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-027.ctimail.com [61.93.57.27]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n714ZgUH028727 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:35:43 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n714Zg9C011584 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:35:42 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <78FC6369F8A94AB883A290AAF9F594DF@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9e908c1f0907300541h355cd519p7cad36e917c56cb5@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907300944h4a083a98m4d4fe540771bf611@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907301003s7dff981chfa13c3300b605f27@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907310507r7a98f1a5yb19c3f3f7c5e0367@mail.gmail.com><4A72E1DF.1000601@chucknorcutt.com><9e908c1f0907311109y1522dd21vc51ac6b34d5567a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:35:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was "OlympusE-P1review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 06:35:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73c627126671073733319 I think it is just a matter of luck (or bad luck), I purchased the L328F in 1991 and it is still working well. At that time the Olympus film camera and Sekonic light meter was carried by the same distributor (Kingstone Development Co.) here in Hong Kong, their service was very good. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Pearce" >I have an older Minolta meter that has been flawless, unlide the Sekonic > that failed within minutes of the expiration of the warranty, and was > treated like crap by MAC. > > I underssstand that someone bought the meter line from Minolta and is > making > them again. I'd do it in a minute. I'd even look at good used examples > from > KEH. > > Billl PEarce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Wilcox" > > Thanks, Chuck, I think you' ve written about this meter before, as I > discovered it's in my B&H wishlist already. I guess I was hoping that > if I left it there long enough the price would go down, but no such > luck! > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 06:49:41 2009 Received: (qmail 2247 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 04:49:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 04:49:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FC5EDC032 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EAFE240E0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C791A0091 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195551A0090 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23731 invoked by uid 502); 1 Aug 2009 04:49:31 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-182-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.182.214) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Aug 2009 04:49:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4A73C94F.2010802@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:49:19 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <000a01ca057d$a4deb4b0$0365a8c0@MEDIAPC><14883a8b0907151206v6d024facj8877312fcf54460a@mail.gmail.com> <4A5E3358.1040304@chucknorcutt.com> <71C3E22F6C7B47D2B0E074A50D3324C2@your9ya3hf92n3> <4A6F835A.2040403@gmail.com> <4A6F8E34.5090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4A6FDC94.3060502@gmail.com> <4A702989.3050401@chucknorcutt.com> <4A711CE5.5030901@gmail.com> <4A718A07.1060202@chucknorcutt.com> <4A72A235.90600@gmail.com> <4a72dff3.47c1f10a.49f1.ffff909f@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: <4a72dff3.47c1f10a.49f1.ffff909f@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [OM] In Memory ... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 06:49:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73c965239931342116753 Daniel Sepke wrote: > Or you could buy into the Arca Swiss world. Gain multi manufacturer support, > many accessory devices and superb craftsmanship from at least two major and > several minor makers. Yes the buy in is higher but I have never regretted > the choice myself. I made the call to buy in right at the beginning of my > major kit building so avoided the round of upgrades that seems to plague the > tripod/head business. Of course as ever YMMV :) . > Yes, MMDV. One tightrope I walk in choosing equipment is between functionality and size/weight. Cost is often as issue, as well, but of a different nature. The old saw is still true, the camera, lens, tripod, head, and so on, that doesn't get to the site of the shot is of no value, no matter how wonderful it is. I have several pieces of photographic equipment that fit all too often into this category. If I were a pro, things would be different. Shooting this locomotive, I'd have hauled in the 16# Manfrotto tripod, a 20+MP camera and the Zuiko 18/3.5 for a true panorama shot. I would have at least considered using a ladder to peek over the adjacent locomotive and try a shot from maybe twice as far away and a bit above. Might be striking. I'd also pick a different time of day or year for the light from the big window or hang a huge diffuser and probably have to use additional lights. And I'd have to hire a child to stand around looking cute. :-) But I do this for fun. To the extent that others enjoy any of my images, I'm pleased, but my primary motivation is to please myself. So the equipment has to fit into the "Moose will actually carry it with him more than once" criterion. Big tripods, heads and QR mechanisms are non-starters there. In this case, the gear I hauled around hanging from my body on a warm day in Old Sacramento, 5D, 28-300, 17-35 and 90 macro Tamrons and 50/1.8 Canon was just at my limit. That combination of lenses is also a work of compromise between size, weight and function. If I had the Canon L equivalent lenses, they couldn't all go with me most of the time. Every once in a while, I go through a period of serious desire for the Canon 100-400L lens. So far, these periods have ended with the realization that it would be forever the piece of gear left home or in the car, but "I'll use it next time." My resistance is helped by the similar fate of the similar size/weight Tamron 80-200/2.8. Wonderful lens, but I've taken very few images with it over the years for the simple reason that it's not been there when the shot is to be taken. Soooo, My affection for the light, handy QR products is purely practical. They do a better job in the field with me than would much sturdier and "better" versions that wouldn't be there. Also, as the equipment that they may be called on to support is subject to the same selection rules, not as much strength is required of my tripod/head/QR gear. The Velbon Heads and QR plates I like are quite sufficient for 5D and 28-300 Tamron, which is the biggest, heaviest combo they are likely to have to support. On those very rare occasions where I haul heavier gear, or want more precision, the Manfrotto geared head and Hakuba CF tripod are great. If things get really serious, the massive Manfrotto hexagonal plates, massive three way head and massive tripod are quite sufficient for even the 150-500/5.6 or 1000/11 and any cameras that may happen to be hanging off them. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 07:26:42 2009 Received: (qmail 28224 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 05:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 05:26:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEF7EDC03E for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011F8E240E0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDEF1A00C1 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:26:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2581A00B8 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:26:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26673 invoked by uid 502); 1 Aug 2009 05:26:36 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-182-214.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.182.214) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Aug 2009 05:26:36 -0000 Message-ID: <4A73D206.6090002@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:26:30 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A6EFF56.26343.4D7CDA@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4A6EFF56.26343.4D7CDA@bj.caverock.net.nz> Subject: Re: [OM] sunset this evening X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 07:26:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73d212104961413256596 Brian Swale wrote: > Now that I have a few gigabytes free on my HDD, I have started experimenting with ORF / RAW files, hoping to rescue images with blown-out highlights ( autumn leaves in the sun, in forest shots, for example ). Hurray! Be advised, though, that the E-3 is reported to have less recoverable highlights than some other DSLRs. Shooting to the right, by using negative EV compensation in many cases, will still be needed in many cases. > I saved V 2.3 of Raw Therapee many months ago, and installed it a couple of days ago. So far it has me confused as it doesn't seem to give progress images as various changes are keyed in. But it is very early days yet. > If you are going to try out RawTherapee, you might as well download V2.4, as it has some improvements. RT is in many ways quite capable. However, as you have found, it is slow to complete processing and display changes, so it can be quite frustrating to use. Without a fast, processor and lots of memory, it is probably stone slow. Adobe ACR, as in PS, Lightroom and, I believe, recent versions of Photoshop Elements, is much faster to use. I've not carefully followed the threads, but recall that some E-thingie users have issues with ACR color rendering. Have you tried the software that came with the camera? Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 07:35:25 2009 Received: (qmail 11426 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 05:35:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 05:35:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32799EDC039 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C0FE240E0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B5034AC003 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929B834AC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:35:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (eastrmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.240.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090801053520.SMKX22890.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 01:35:20 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id NtbJ1c0074Z9Gks02tbJgU; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:35:19 -0400 X-VR-Score: -250.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BF4ySFG8VfYA:10 a=rch71QQ5AAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Xhg3rbUYnz9tNzpALAwA:9 a=rBLwvFDF508VvxZls1sA:7 a=kxfwhMtG5eECUYfe3pq4Y_TiBkwA:4 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9e908c1f0907300541h355cd519p7cad36e917c56cb5@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907300944h4a083a98m4d4fe540771bf611@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907301003s7dff981chfa13c3300b605f27@mail.gmail.com><9e908c1f0907310507r7a98f1a5yb19c3f3f7c5e0367@mail.gmail.com><4A72E1DF.1000601@chucknorcutt.com><9e908c1f0907311109y1522dd21vc51ac6b34d5567a4@mail.gmail.com> <78FC6369F8A94AB883A290AAF9F594DF@MAIN> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:35:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was"OlympusE-P1review on DPR") X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 07:35:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73d41c183567801554290 MAC, the US importer has a bad reputation. They got all over Robert White about sending Mamiya cameras to US customers at a substantial discount from their "Suggested Retail" and got the source shut off. Not nice people, but highly financially motivated. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Flash meters: was: Sleep to Shot timing (was"OlympusE-P1review on DPR") >I think it is just a matter of luck (or bad luck), I purchased the L328F in > 1991 and it is still working well. At that time the Olympus film camera > and > Sekonic light meter was carried by the same distributor (Kingstone > Development Co.) here in Hong Kong, their service was very good. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Pearce" > >>I have an older Minolta meter that has been flawless, unlide the Sekonic >> that failed within minutes of the expiration of the warranty, and was >> treated like crap by MAC. >> >> I underssstand that someone bought the meter line from Minolta and is >> making >> them again. I'd do it in a minute. I'd even look at good used examples >> from >> KEH. >> >> Billl PEarce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joel Wilcox" >> >> Thanks, Chuck, I think you' ve written about this meter before, as I >> discovered it's in my B&H wishlist already. I guess I was hoping that >> if I left it there long enough the price would go down, but no such >> luck! >> >> Joel W. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.38/2274 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 07:53:35 2009 Received: (qmail 2375 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 05:53:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 05:53:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C550DEDC029 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF2EE240E0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4E41A00F7 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32CA1A00F5 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2308030bwz.14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.135.208 with SMTP id e16mr341468hbe.37.1249106007224; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:53:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A73C94F.2010802@gmail.com> References: <000a01ca057d$a4deb4b0$0365a8c0@MEDIAPC> <4A6F835A.2040403@gmail.com> <4A6F8E34.5090702@chucknorcutt.com> <4A6FDC94.3060502@gmail.com> <4A702989.3050401@chucknorcutt.com> <4A711CE5.5030901@gmail.com> <4A718A07.1060202@chucknorcutt.com> <4A72A235.90600@gmail.com> <4a72dff3.47c1f10a.49f1.ffff909f@mx.google.com> <4A73C94F.2010802@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:53:27 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 866a83e132e742fb Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] In Memory ... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 07:53:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73d85f303481076813867 Tripods? QR plates? Oh, man, the stories I could tell from just this past two weeks... AG (three legs short) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 07:59:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13448 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 05:59:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 05:59:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED7BEDC008 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D83E240E0 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B5F1A0109 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5921A00F7 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:58:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2308727bwz.14 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:58:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.135.208 with SMTP id e16mr341790hbe.37.1249106336946; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:58:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A739E53.3070000@adinet.com.uy> References: <9e908c1f0907300541h355cd519p7cad36e917c56cb5@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907300944h4a083a98m4d4fe540771bf611@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907301003s7dff981chfa13c3300b605f27@mail.gmail.com> <159208.76493.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A71DB6F.30003@ctgonline.org> <996935.66650.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7215C4.1010504@chucknorcutt.com> <4A739E53.3070000@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:58:56 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2be9914a3c0dc4b1 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] RIP Yoshihisa Maitani X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 07:59:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a73d9a9275891258626592 I'm just reconnecting to the world here and saddened by this news. Having extensively used the OM system these past days here in Colorado, all I can say is that the genius of his systems live on through those of us who love using what he has designed. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 13:19:38 2009 Received: (qmail 24663 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 11:19:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 11:19:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60354EDC030 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B145E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EDD19E222 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:19:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEFD19E214 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:19:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31584 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 11:19:26 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 13:19:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7424ca305361006886880 Thanks. This is what I was remembering, Hymenocallis palmeri S. Watson Or the alligator lily. The common name also explains to me why I've seen it growing where it does. Incidentally, Hymenocallis are native to the Americas. Chuck Norcutt Marc Lawrence wrote: > I don't know what their botanical name is, but here we call them "spider lily". > > Hold on, I'll just google... > > Google says Hymenocallis littoralis. > > Cheers, > Marc > > 2009/8/1 Chuck Norcutt : >> Yikes, I was getting seasick from the "bokeh". I which I knew the name >> of the white flower. There is one that is the same or extremely similar >> that grows in the Florida Everglades, near the boundary between cypress >> swamp and marsh. I can't remember it's name either and I'm about 600 >> miles away from my Florida plants library. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 13:26:43 2009 Received: (qmail 30569 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 11:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 11:26:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F61EDC02E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC33E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A5D19E25A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F5719E240 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2326 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 11:26:35 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 13:26:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74267392601076813867 All too true. My 80-200/2.8 Tokina is almost never where it needs to be unless I'm within 50 yards of the car. Maybe one of these days I'll learn to carry the Zuiko 200/4 or maybe even get a 200/5 to go along with the Tamron 24-135. :-) Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Daniel Sepke wrote: >> Or you could buy into the Arca Swiss world. Gain multi manufacturer support, >> many accessory devices and superb craftsmanship from at least two major and >> several minor makers. Yes the buy in is higher but I have never regretted >> the choice myself. I made the call to buy in right at the beginning of my >> major kit building so avoided the round of upgrades that seems to plague the >> tripod/head business. Of course as ever YMMV :) . >> > > Yes, MMDV. One tightrope I walk in choosing equipment is between > functionality and size/weight. Cost is often as issue, as well, but of a > different nature. > > The old saw is still true, the camera, lens, tripod, head, and so on, > that doesn't get to the site of the shot is of no value, no matter how > wonderful it is. I have several pieces of photographic equipment that > fit all too often into this category. > > If I were a pro, things would be different. Shooting this locomotive, > I'd have hauled in the 16# Manfrotto tripod, a 20+MP camera and the > Zuiko 18/3.5 for a true panorama shot. I would have at least considered > using a ladder to peek over the adjacent locomotive and try a shot from > maybe twice as far away and a bit above. Might be striking. > > I'd also pick a different time of day or year for the light from the big > window or hang a huge diffuser and probably have to use additional > lights. And I'd have to hire a child to stand around looking cute. :-) > > But I do this for fun. To the extent that others enjoy any of my images, > I'm pleased, but my primary motivation is to please myself. So the > equipment has to fit into the "Moose will actually carry it with him > more than once" criterion. Big tripods, heads and QR mechanisms are > non-starters there. > > In this case, the gear I hauled around hanging from my body on a warm > day in Old Sacramento, 5D, 28-300, 17-35 and 90 macro Tamrons and 50/1.8 > Canon was just at my limit. That combination of lenses is also a work of > compromise between size, weight and function. If I had the Canon L > equivalent lenses, they couldn't all go with me most of the time. > > Every once in a while, I go through a period of serious desire for the > Canon 100-400L lens. So far, these periods have ended with the > realization that it would be forever the piece of gear left home or in > the car, but "I'll use it next time." My resistance is helped by the > similar fate of the similar size/weight Tamron 80-200/2.8. Wonderful > lens, but I've taken very few images with it over the years for the > simple reason that it's not been there when the shot is to be taken. > > Soooo, My affection for the light, handy QR products is purely > practical. They do a better job in the field with me than would much > sturdier and "better" versions that wouldn't be there. Also, as the > equipment that they may be called on to support is subject to the same > selection rules, not as much strength is required of my tripod/head/QR > gear. > > The Velbon Heads and QR plates I like are quite sufficient for 5D and > 28-300 Tamron, which is the biggest, heaviest combo they are likely to > have to support. On those very rare occasions where I haul heavier gear, > or want more precision, the Manfrotto geared head and Hakuba CF tripod > are great. If things get really serious, the massive Manfrotto hexagonal > plates, massive three way head and massive tripod are quite sufficient > for even the 150-500/5.6 or 1000/11 and any cameras that may happen to > be hanging off them. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 13:35:21 2009 Received: (qmail 9430 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 11:35:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 11:35:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AAAE182C7 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAEAE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0187934AC00E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B86D34AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oiwert@eso.org whitelisted) Received: from mail169.messagelabs.com (mail169.messagelabs.com [85.158.138.179]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:35:13 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: oiwert@eso.org X-Msg-Ref: server-11.tower-169.messagelabs.com!1249126512!19007367!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.1.3; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [134.171.75.149] Received: (qmail 18750 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2009 11:35:12 -0000 Received: from aeon.hq.eso.org (HELO aeon.hq.eso.org) (134.171.75.149) by server-11.tower-169.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 11:35:12 -0000 Received: from mercury.hq.eso.org (mercury.hq.eso.org [134.171.7.20]) by aeon.hq.eso.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1E05A628 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:34:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from prillo.hq.eso.org (prillo.hq.eso.org [134.171.75.134]) by mercury.hq.eso.org (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n71BZCmt026092; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:35:12 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.5.33] (mnch-4d04d286.pool.mediaWays.net [77.4.210.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: oiwert) by prillo.hq.eso.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9561AE5A9; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:33:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A742865.4050903@eso.org> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:35:01 +0200 From: Olaf Iwert User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Cc: oiwert@eso.org Subject: [OM] Very sad day : Long live Maitani San X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 13:35:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74287957342517112723 Dear all, I've been shocked by the news that Maitani passed away. Just recently we had a lively discussion via EMail amongst members of this forum, whether there is any chance to get Maitani's private address and to be able to say a personal 'thank you' to him and/or to get his autograph. I feel a deep inner relationship to the spirit he has brought to my professional life as an engineer and to the long sightedness, as well as his personal ways to convince design teams and upper management about his ideas. It proves to me that sometimes a certain stubbornness together with a humouristic view is necessary to push a new idea forward. I wish him all the best on his future path and am sure that he will live forever in the memories of those who are using his system throughout many many years to come. Only some days ago I unpacked a juvenile black OM1n together with a 85mm Zuiko and - although I did not take a single shot yet - I felt a deep inner joy about the design of one of his first amsterpieces within the OM series. Time to buy another one.... With best wishes The second Iwert on the list -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 13:39:08 2009 Received: (qmail 31087 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 11:39:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 11:39:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42461E180B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834C5E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5F019E28E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:39:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68D19DA6C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8858 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 11:39:01 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Very sad day : Long live Maitani San X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 13:39:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74295c74072439112457 Well said. Chuck Norcutt Olaf Iwert wrote: > Dear all, > > I've been shocked by the news that Maitani passed away. > Just recently we had a lively discussion via EMail amongst members of > this forum, whether there is any chance to get Maitani's private address > and to be able to say a personal 'thank you' to him and/or to get his > autograph. > > I feel a deep inner relationship to the spirit he has brought to my > professional life as an engineer and to the long sightedness, as well as > his personal ways to convince design teams and upper management about > his ideas. It proves to me that sometimes a certain stubbornness > together with a humouristic view is necessary to push a new idea forward. > > I wish him all the best on his future path and am sure that he will live > forever in the memories of those who are using his system throughout > many many years to come. > > Only some days ago I unpacked a juvenile black OM1n together with a 85mm > Zuiko and - although I did not take a single shot yet - I felt a deep > inner joy about the design of one of his first amsterpieces within the > OM series. > > Time to buy another one.... > > With best wishes > The second Iwert on the list > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 13:49:27 2009 Received: (qmail 25335 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 11:49:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 11:49:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214D5E181AC for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D427E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7805634AC00E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46BB34AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:49:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.25]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.58.70] (70.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.70]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE6D3DA99D for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:49:11 +1200 (NZST) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:49:10 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4A74D476.22058.82813D@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090731-0, 31/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Description: Mail message body X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] sunset this evening X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 13:49:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a742bc6260176789618724 Hello all, Just 3 hours ago I completed a journey of nearly 8 hours back from Central Otago, to Christchurch, in my severely loaded little Toyota Starlet of 1983 vintage. With this desktop computer on board as well. So I'm away from those marvellous landscapes for a few weeks again. It took about an hour to unload ! Great little car; cruising at 60 MPH (100 km/h) where possible, it has an economy of around 44 miles per Imperial gallon of 91 octane petrol. I do the trip for about $50 NZ. I learned recently that a Porsche Cayenne would use about $ 550 worth for the same trip .... I was going to write that I have decided that 10MP digital cameras just can't cut the mustard with landscapes, and was going to post some images to explain my line of reasoning. Maybe I'll still do that. Then news came in, in my e-mail downloads today , that my infatuation (beginning with "O") is ready for me. Totally manual and a bit like an OM1, but more bigger all round, if you get the drift. Maybe a lot bigger. I hope to have more to report on this in 10 days' time - or so. It's been a rough month financially, and this Infatuation will cost about as much as the replacement main shaft for the fuel injection pump of my Range Rover just did ... Doesn't help, however, I'm sure I'll cope ... Moose wrote > Message: 41 > > Brian Swale wrote: > > Now that I have a few gigabytes free on my HDD, I have started > experimenting with ORF / RAW files, hoping to rescue images with blown-out > highlights ( autumn leaves in the sun, in forest shots, for example ). > > Hurray! Be advised, though, that the E-3 is reported to have less > recoverable highlights than some other DSLRs. Shooting to the right, by > using negative EV compensation in many cases, will still be needed in many > cases. > > > I saved V 2.3 of Raw Therapee many months ago, and installed it a couple > of days ago. So far it has me confused as it doesn't seem to give progress > images as various changes are keyed in. But it is very early days yet. > > > > If you are going to try out RawTherapee, you might as well download > V2.4, as it has some improvements. RT is in many ways quite capable. > However, as you have found, it is slow to complete processing and display > changes, so it can be quite frustrating to use. Without a fast, processor > and lots of memory, it is probably stone slow. Adobe ACR, as in PS, > Lightroom and, I believe, recent versions of Photoshop Elements, is much > faster to use. > > I've not carefully followed the threads, but recall that some E-thingie > users have issues with ACR color rendering. Have you tried the software > that came with the camera? > > Moose And Chuck commented on a haze in the background and wondered what he was actually seeing. Moose has dragged more out of that image than I ever thought possible. The grass is getting close to correct. That blue haze is actually a scrub fire that a neighbour has had smouldering away for about a week, and he made it more obvious than it was to my eyes in real life. There is more smoke to the right in the form of a thin vertical plume from a house chimney. I'm amazed. I have not tried the software that came with the camera. Maybe I should. I have not taken any notice of the histograms; maybe I should, now. And I have finally figured out how to get the INFO display to behave itself nicely. I'm not sure what to do about RAW files. I'll give it more thought. Yes, I did use a tripod for those shots (Gitzo Studex 320 bought 25 years ago from B&H and posted out - complete with Bogen/Manfrotto 3-way head and hexagonal QR plate ... :-)) ) I have heard of people combining the best parts of 2 images but have NO idea how to do that. One of the reasons I stick with this ( crappy in the minds of some people) 2nd hand computer is that it came with Photoshop V7 already installed. I asked no questions ... Thanks for all the comments. I saved Moose's altered image ... Thanks Moose. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 14:23:26 2009 Received: (qmail 20488 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 12:23:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 12:23:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15788EDC022 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5A6E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D1E19E3CB for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C008319E3BB for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:23:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 05:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31398 invoked by uid 504); 1 Aug 2009 12:23:19 -0000 Received: from wsip-68-111-0-66.rn.hr.cox.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@68.111.0.66) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 1 Aug 2009 12:23:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7433B7.7070701@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 08:23:19 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A74D476.22058.82813D@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4A74D476.22058.82813D@bj.caverock.net.nz> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090731-0, 07/31/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] sunset this evening X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 14:23:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7433be2261357919056 I'll be interested to see that since I maintain that about 8MP is good enough to equal anything you'll get out of 100 ISO color film. But regardless, it's very easy to build panos with a digital camera that can raise the resolution to anything you want. Chuck Norcutt Brian Swale wrote: > > I was going to write that I have decided that 10MP digital cameras just can't cut the > mustard with landscapes, and was going to post some images to explain my line of > reasoning. Maybe I'll still do that. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 15:38:27 2009 Received: (qmail 17328 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 13:38:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 13:38:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3023AEDC030 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4320E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748DB34AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AA034AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:38:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.k.quarles@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.146]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so1335228qwa.26 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:38:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.13 with SMTP id f13mr687367qcn.36.1249133898456; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 09:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: <6b1e51090908010638je039e6eufeb37168bd6aa7b5@mail.gmail.com> From: Keith Quarles To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Subject: Re: [OM] FS: OM and Other Equipment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 15:38:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74455319191234514069 I think I've been convinced that I over-priced the OM-4T I have for sale. I'm now offering it for $275 plus shipping. You can see the pictures of it and the other items I'm selling at http://www.flickr.com/photos/keith_quarles/collections/72157621706506325/ Thanks for looking. Keith Quarles d.k.quarles@gmail.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 15:53:08 2009 Received: (qmail 22007 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 13:53:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 13:53:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12241E182AD for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221ECE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFD519E629 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5949419E551 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@m93.myzen.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.155.39.109] (helo=[192.168.1.64]) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXF1B-0004D2-Sr for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:53:02 +0000 Message-ID: <4A7448B7.9090309@m93.myzen.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:52:55 +0100 From: Martyn Smoothy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <6b1e51090908010638je039e6eufeb37168bd6aa7b5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6b1e51090908010638je039e6eufeb37168bd6aa7b5@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [217.155.39.109] Subject: Re: [OM] FS: OM and Other Equipment X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 15:53:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7448c457736107113666 I'd certainly go for it at that price if I didn't already have one. Reckon you'd probably get more on e-bay, particularly if you sold the grip separately - they sometimes go for silly prices... Martyn Keith Quarles wrote: > I think I've been convinced that I over-priced the OM-4T I have for > sale. I'm now offering it for $275 plus shipping. You can see the > pictures of it and the other items I'm selling at > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/keith_quarles/collections/72157621706506325/ > > > Thanks for looking. > > Keith Quarles > d.k.quarles@gmail.com > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 19:22:26 2009 Received: (qmail 24721 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 17:22:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 17:22:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A7EE180B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22260E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0460034AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:22:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B6734AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090801172215H02001n4fue>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:22:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:22:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 19:22:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7479d2121675034211378 Hi guys! I just discovered Olympus OM! I have been into photography (more specifically, 3d-stereo photography) for 21 years. I started with the Minolta MD system in 1984. I was happy and had accumulated a lot of equipment. Then, I got a stereo camera that used Pentax lenses, so I decided to switch to the Pentax system. Last year I got a Contax/Yashica stereo camera, so I got interested in these cameras. Then, someone gave me a Nikon N2000 camera to sell in ebay and I liked the camera, so I became a bit of a Nikon fanatic. FINALLY, a couple of weeks ago I bought an Olympus OM1 lot, sold in an Astrophotography forum. I instantly fell in love with the system! So, I decided to sell ALL other camera equipment and concentrate on the Olympus OM system. I like the simplicity and quality of the system. With the Nikon I was lost. Take any area of photography and there are numerous of Nikon equipment/accessories. For example, macro bellows. I could never get it straight how many different Nikon bellows models are around. Compare this with Olympus: Only one! I love this simplicity. In very short time one can collect all the equipment he or she needs. I am happy again! :) George in Ohio -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 19:27:44 2009 Received: (qmail 24221 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 17:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 17:27:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F91E182AF for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3478E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDACF19EBB7 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6835119EBA1 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl36.gs02.gridserver.com (cl36.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.45]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:61787 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl36.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXIMn-00049z-9v for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:27:36 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:27:41 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] New member says "hi" Thread-Index: AcoSzV9Nnf/UeH7AEd6YoQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 19:27:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a747b10247891560218263 Welcome George! What part of Ohio are you in? If you like Macro, Olympus's macro lenses and system are the best, not just because of their simplicity. Olympus was originally a maker of microscopes before they made cameras. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/1/09 1:22 PM, "DrT (George Themelis)" wrote: > Hi guys! > > I just discovered Olympus OM! > > I have been into photography (more specifically, 3d-stereo photography) for > 21 years. I started with the Minolta MD system in 1984. I was happy and had > accumulated a lot of equipment. Then, I got a stereo camera that used > Pentax lenses, so I decided to switch to the Pentax system. Last year I got > a Contax/Yashica stereo camera, so I got interested in these cameras. Then, > someone gave me a Nikon N2000 camera to sell in ebay and I liked the camera, > so I became a bit of a Nikon fanatic. > > FINALLY, a couple of weeks ago I bought an Olympus OM1 lot, sold in an > Astrophotography forum. I instantly fell in love with the system! So, I > decided to sell ALL other camera equipment and concentrate on the Olympus OM > system. > > I like the simplicity and quality of the system. With the Nikon I was lost. > Take any area of photography and there are numerous of Nikon > equipment/accessories. For example, macro bellows. I could never get it > straight how many different Nikon bellows models are around. Compare this > with Olympus: Only one! I love this simplicity. In very short time one can > collect all the equipment he or she needs. > > I am happy again! :) > > George in Ohio -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 19:29:03 2009 Received: (qmail 28181 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 17:29:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 17:29:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1755FE181B2 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED723E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2D619EA14 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3B019DA36 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090801172856H0600kdf78e>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:28:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <56C1C3A608E6416EA98A2AAD22F4386E@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:28:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 19:29:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a747b5f105941357919056 I have a question... The Olympus OM1 is a purely mechanical camera. It does not need a battery for the shutter to fire, correct? But when one connects the Winder 2, and then puts an electric remove plug into the socket, the camera will fire. How is this possible? If the OM1 is a purely mechanical camera, then it needs a mechanical action to fire the shutter. The plug into the Winder 2 only provides electrical action. What is going on here? This question is important for me because I want to synchronize two OM1s (for stereo photography) to fire that the same time when I press a switch. I could use a double cable release (like the Olympus one that comes with the bellows system) but electric synchronization is more reliable than mechanical synchronization. I thought that electrical synchronization was only possible with the OM2 and OM4. But now I see I can connect the Winder 2s in the OM1s and fire the cameras this way. I have not tried this yet, but I don't see any problem and I am puzzled that this will work for a camera with a mechanical shutter. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 19:33:58 2009 Received: (qmail 6843 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 17:33:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 17:33:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1583EDC00E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13438E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0403219EBCC for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:33:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65C219EBC8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090801173352H04008rohle>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:33:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <0E35186B2A7A4E4D9773B49EFAF0483E@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:33:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 19:33:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a747c86118755683411216 > Welcome George! What part of Ohio are you in? If you like Macro, Olympus's > macro lenses and system are the best, not just because of their > simplicity. > Olympus was originally a maker of microscopes before they made cameras. Thanks Chris! I am near Cleveland Ohio.... Yes, I agree... But both Minolta and Nikon make good macro lenses and accessories and both companies make microscopes and related optical equipment. Also, both Nikon and Minolta have more sophisticated bellows with shift and tilt control, while Olympus does not. (I saw a picture of a prototype somewhere with these features but it was never produced). Still, I don't mind having simple bellows like the Olympus. The Pentax 50mm f3.5 macro lens was a disappointment (compared to Minolta/Nikon). photographing a flat object (my computer screen) resulted in unacceptable distortion. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 19:56:00 2009 Received: (qmail 19946 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 17:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 17:55:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B17E18063 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2414E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC5334AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:55:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66A634AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:55:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:61866 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXIo6-0002pr-8W for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:55:47 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:55:56 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Question OM1 remote release Thread-Index: AcoS0VGakFWcO37EEd6aWgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <56C1C3A608E6416EA98A2AAD22F4386E@home> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 19:56:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7481b0303539752976205 The OM-1 has a mechanical linkage in the bottom of the camera that connects to a mechanical pin on the winder. When you push the winder's shutter release, the pin on the winder moves, tripping the OM-1's shutter. All the OM cameras use the same winders and the same mechanical linkages...another great thing about OM. Most manufacturers had a different winder or drive for each camera model, but all of olympus's winders/motors work on all bodies! -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/1/09 1:28 PM, "DrT (George Themelis)" wrote: > I have a question... The Olympus OM1 is a purely mechanical camera. It does > not need a battery for the shutter to fire, correct? > > But when one connects the Winder 2, and then puts an electric remove plug > into the socket, the camera will fire. > > How is this possible? If the OM1 is a purely mechanical camera, then it > needs a mechanical action to fire the shutter. The plug into the Winder 2 > only provides electrical action. What is going on here? > > This question is important for me because I want to synchronize two OM1s > (for stereo photography) to fire that the same time when I press a switch. > I could use a double cable release (like the Olympus one that comes with the > bellows system) but electric synchronization is more reliable than > mechanical synchronization. I thought that electrical synchronization was > only possible with the OM2 and OM4. But now I see I can connect the Winder > 2s in the OM1s and fire the cameras this way. I have not tried this yet, but > I don't see any problem and I am puzzled that this will work for a camera > with a mechanical shutter. > > George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 20:45:33 2009 Received: (qmail 6551 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 18:45:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 18:45:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C866DEDC036 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB7BE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D10A19ED84 for ; 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Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090801193247H05002ih2ce>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:32:47 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <971424852.6268831249152327294.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:32:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 21:32:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a749868316661950411718 > Be warned, George, it never ends. I don't understand why... I go to the "Unofficial Olympus OM Sales Information File" (http://olympus.dementia.org/esif/om-sif.htm) and I click in every section and see a very limited number of products. This is such a slim and neat list of equipment. Most of these products can be found for sale in ebay (or KEH or other major photo dealers) right now. If one has enough money, he can buy just about everything in a very short time. What takes time is looking for bargains or very unusual items. Try researching an equivalent Nikon line of products and your head will spin :) In 3 short weeks I have accumulated the following: Camera bodies: ---------------- - Olympus OM1 - Olympus OM1n - Olympus OM2n - Olympus OM10 x 2 Lenses: ------- - 50mm 1.8 x 2 - 50mm f3.5 Macro - 200mm f4 - 300mm f4.5 - 21mm f3.5 - I decided to sell this lens... to wide for my taste: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370237984687 - Some off brand lenses that I will sell soon Accessories: ------------ - 2 x Winder 2 - Several focusing screens - 2 x Varimagni - 7mm extension tube - Bellows - Slide Copier - Double Cable release - Carl Shipman's book - T20 flash - T30 flash My immediate needs are: - Pair of 100mm lenses - I need pairs of lenses for 3d - Another 200mm - Another 300mm - 500mm lens I think in a couple of months I will be done with what I need. I decided I do not care much for the OM3 or OM4. The OM1 and OM2 bodies are fine for what I do. To finance these and future purchases, I am now selling my Nikon collection. I have a 300mm lens very similar to the Olympus, and the Nikon 500mm lens (that can finance the 500mm Olympus lens) and numerous other bodies, lenses, accessories. I cannot believe I wasted all this time with Nikon :) > I've never made it past step three in the twelve step Zuikohaulic program. > Perhaps you'll do better 8^) Is there a link to the complete 12 step program? I might need it at some point... :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 21:47:47 2009 Received: (qmail 13704 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 19:47:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 19:47:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C54E18256 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE49BE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A04834AC00E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7918434AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090801194739H04008rmn5e>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:47:40 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <49DC6FEEB2D54A6EA681275B9D1BD7CF@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:47:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 21:47:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a749be3250671612113968 > The OM-1 has a mechanical linkage in the bottom of the camera that > connects > to a mechanical pin on the winder. OK, I got it! Cool! I was able to trigger the cameras with a little screwdriver from the bottom. > Most manufacturers had a different winder or drive for > each camera model, but all of olympus's winders/motors work on all bodies! Yes, it is clever. Someone might claim that it is limited at the same time: Cameras with an electrical shutter (OM2, OM4) can be triggered by just making an electric contact (sorting two wires). This is not an option with Olympus. If one does not want to use the winder or motor drive (which adds weight), he is forced to use a mechanical cable release, because there is no provision for an electrical cable release (just two wires shorted by a switch). The mechanical cable release could shake the camera (at least in theory, in high magnification or astrophotography applications). I am curious to test how accurate the camera synchronization is, based on this mechanical triggering. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 21:57:56 2009 Received: (qmail 7862 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 19:57:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 19:57:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1D0EDC037 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672EAE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3269119F264 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:57:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA55E19F201 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (smtp07.online.nl [194.134.42.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65D98084 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:57:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp07.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:57:48 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: <4372B6BB23CC453CA2291B738FEDE2D7@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp07.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 21:57:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a749e44135233900897491 Gverge wrote: > I don't understand why... First of all welcome to the list. (I just corrected a type where I typed "lust". Maybe I should not have bothered correcting, because this lust is what this list is all about. It is also called zuikoholism (Very special, seducive and highly contagious form of GAS (Gear Aquisition Syndrome)). We are all zuikoholics after all. Don't be fooled by the simpleness of the OM-system. There are a few hundred parts out there waiting for your attention. Many lenses have seen different versions. Some of us won't rest untuil they have all varieties of all lenses. I believe from the 1.8/50mm alone 6 different versions were produced. Then there are quite some lenses that are very hard to get or for huge amolunts of money. You already told us you were not specially a wide-angle typoe of guy, but just try and find a 3.5/18mm and you'll know what I mean. Have fun on this list, I am quite sure you will have. I have been here since 1995 and know some have been even longer. Not always eaqully active, but always reading through the mail. Welcome again and just ask away. The Olympus knowledge on this list hasn't found it's eaqual yet. Wiliam from the Netherlands -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 22:14:44 2009 Received: (qmail 16273 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 20:14:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 20:14:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F595E180B5 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF1CE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D458C19F433 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FDC19F41F for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090801201438H030024chve>; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 20:14:39 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <1844F1897022459AA3959E8CBED98735@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4372B6BB23CC453CA2291B738FEDE2D7@wiliam> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:14:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Rare Olympus items.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 22:14:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74a234288781220213263 > Then there are quite some lenses that are very hard to get or for huge > amolunts of money. You already told us you were not specially a > wide-angle typoe of guy, but just try and find a 3.5/18mm and you'll > know what I mean. Well, this is one in ebay closing soon: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190324312667 Yes, a lot of money, but I have seen much worse. Did you guys see the Olympus OM1 cut away camera that sold yesterday in ebay? That was a nice piece for a collector: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200366605505 Does anyone know where would this come from and if there are more around? George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 22:37:52 2009 Received: (qmail 856 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 20:37:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 20:37:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965FEE1805E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437FCE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1F619F546 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:37:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF5019F518 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so1984985fxm.14 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.57.19 with SMTP id a19mr4320068bkh.194.1249159066346; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1844F1897022459AA3959E8CBED98735@home> References: <4372B6BB23CC453CA2291B738FEDE2D7@wiliam> <1844F1897022459AA3959E8CBED98735@home> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:37:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Rare Olympus items.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 22:37:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74a7a0266012013633067 2009/8/1 DrT (George Themelis) : >> Then there are quite some lenses that are very hard to get or for huge >> amolunts of money. You already told =A0us you were not specially a >> wide-angle typoe of guy, but just try and find a 3.5/18mm and you'll >> know what I mean. > > Well, this is one in ebay closing soon: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D190324312667 > > Yes, a lot of money, but I have seen much worse. > I wouldn't bid on this one. No image of the front lens and "excellent used condition". (used and cared for by a professional... does not sound like a baby sitter = :) Iwert -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 23:10:17 2009 Received: (qmail 25750 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 21:10:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 21:10:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4B0E18256 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A57E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A922A19F717 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4371819F74B for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.10]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KNP00H5VUSYS301@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:10:10 -0300 (ADT) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (HELO eastlink.ca) ([24.222.0.30]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:10:08 -0300 Received: from [10.10.10.61] (Forwarded-For: [24.138.11.253]) by ms1.eastlink.ca (mshttpd); Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:10:07 -0300 Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:10:07 -0300 From: om4t@eastlink.ca In-reply-to: <4A7424BD.3000800@chucknorcutt.com> To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005) Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoQCAENMdEoY3gAe/2dsb2JhbACBUpdSuEWEGAU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,307,1246849200"; d="scan'208";a="1433609" References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7424BD.3000800@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: [OM] Dire Straits .... "Why Worry" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 23:10:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74af39222641744846740 Poor old Annie baby: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6735583.ece -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 1 23:53:27 2009 Received: (qmail 6299 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 21:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 21:53:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC87BE18067 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AA7E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B68034AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:53:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DBB34AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:53:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl36.gs02.gridserver.com (cl36.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.45]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:63487 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl36.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXMVx-0005Ka-3M for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:53:18 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:53:28 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Dire Straits .... "Why Worry" Thread-Index: AcoS8oB0vuYQ137lEd6nogAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Dire Straits .... "Why Worry" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 1 23:53:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74b957183931342116753 This has been in the news for a while now. Its amazing she cannot stay solvent at her income. Really so far as I am concerned anyone making more than $40,000 a year who cannot live within their means is stupid. She makes hundreds times that and is bankrupt. Why? -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/1/09 5:10 PM, "om4t@eastlink.ca" wrote: > > Poor old Annie baby: > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6735583.ece > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 00:24:47 2009 Received: (qmail 15735 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 22:24:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 22:24:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E79EE1822C for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BE3E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE60334AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4BE34AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31481 invoked by uid 502); 1 Aug 2009 22:24:38 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-195-175.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.195.175) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Aug 2009 22:24:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4A74C09B.8080509@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:24:27 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <49DC6FEEB2D54A6EA681275B9D1BD7CF@home> In-Reply-To: <49DC6FEEB2D54A6EA681275B9D1BD7CF@home> Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 00:24:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74c0af226955034211378 DrT (George Themelis) wrote: Ah, I see you found the list without my help. :-) Welcome! >> Most manufacturers had a different winder or drive for each camera model, but all of olympus's winders/motors work on all bodies! >> Not quite true, although the exceptions are few, OM-707, OM-101 and OM-2000. > > Yes, it is clever. Someone might claim that it is limited at the same time: Cameras with an electrical shutter (OM2, OM4) can be triggered by just making an electric contact (sorting two wires). Not true, I'm afraid. Although the shutters are electronic, the release mechanism remains mechanical. The button or cable release on the top plate releases the mirror. As the mirror reaches the top, it activates either the mechanical or the electronic shutter. One could probably rig an electronic release of the shutter, but the mirror would still be down, so no picture. Thus, the mirror and aperture pre-fire on the OM-4 series can simply interpose an electronic delay after the mechanical mirror/aperture activation. The Winders and motor drives provide the simple, "short two wires" shooting of OM. > This is not an option with Olympus. ... The mechanical cable release could shake the camera (at least in > theory, in high magnification or astrophotography applications). > Here, you enter one of the dirty secrets of the OM system. To quote from myself a couple of months ago: ============================== "A breakthrough camera, sure. Without fault, nah. The major failings in the camera itself relate to vibration control. The design of the lens aperture and stop-down mechanism is inherently flawed. Oly worked around that starting with the OM-2sp, then the 4 series, OMPC and OM2000, but all used the self timer, which isn't variable length, which is a slow and awkward way to work for many applications. OM lenses have the diaphragm held open by a spring in the lens. The camera has no idea what the actual movement needed for any stop is, so it simply slams the lens operating pin against the stop inside the lens in a circular motion. Because the camera body has to operate even very large diaphragm mechanisms, its action is quite strong. This causes lots of motion and vibration. Gary's tests* proved conclusively that the mirror lock-up alone on the OM-1 is simply ineffective at controlling vibration - possibly why there isn't one on the OM-2(n). Nikon F lenses are the reverse, with a spring in the lens holding the aperture closed against the internal stop set by the aperture ring. The camera operating lever just moves down and up, without a bang at the end. The bang, a smaller one because of the smaller mass of the parts involved, happens out in the lens, and is proportional to the operating force required by each lens. So small, light lenses have a small bang, big heavy ones a bigger one. In the case of the F series, the sheer mass of the camera helps minimize vibration effects. Then of course, the F series has a mechanical MLU AND aperture pre-stopdown mechanism. " ============================== Thus, any possible vibration from a mechanical release is nothing. It is either overwhelmed by the other sources or occurs, along with mirror and aperture mechanism, before the long settle down delay of a self-timer. I believe the reasons the OM-1 has been such a popular camera for astro-photography in spite of the limitation are two. First, the mirror lock up lever gives the impression of vibration free shutter release. Second, the actual vibration time is so short relative to the total exposure that it has no noticeable effect. Moose * http://web.archive.org/web/20070311095348/http://members.aol.com/olympusom/lenstests/default.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 00:42:45 2009 Received: (qmail 12959 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 22:42:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 22:42:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B823FE182AE for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605CDE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5677734AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:42:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F7534AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15433 invoked by uid 502); 1 Aug 2009 22:42:38 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-195-175.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.195.175) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 1 Aug 2009 22:42:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4A74C4D4.3030607@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:42:28 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <971424852.6268831249152327294.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 00:42:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74c4e538435683411216 DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Be warned, George, it never ends. >> > > I don't understand why... I go to the "Unofficial Olympus OM Sales Information File" (http://olympus.dementia.org/esif/om-sif.htm) and I click in every section and see a very limited number of products. This is such a slim and neat list of equipment.... > > Try researching an equivalent Nikon line of products and your head will spin :) > It is slightly more complicated than you may imagine. Many of the lenses went through at least two versions and a few through multiple versions. To quote John H., our captive repairman :-) : ====================================== "There are 5 types of 50 1.8 1 - Silver nosed, single coated 2 - black filter ring, single coated, glass parts different than type 1. 3 & 4 multicoated. "Japan" on name ring. Mostly identical inside except type 4 has different lens group 2nd in from the rear. Name ring will say "MC" (type 3) or not (Type 4). 5 - Multicoated, "Made in Japan" on name ring, shares no optical parts with type 3 or 4. Uses same name ring as type 4, Not marked MC. There are finer differences between the lenses, other folks may want to go into those things." ====================================== The optical differences between a type 1 and a type 4 are HUGE. Although the 21/3.5 you are selling on the 'Bay has the black nose styling of later lenses, the G.ZUIKO on the name ring reveals it to be the earlier, single coated version. The 85/2 actually has two versions with different number of elements! You may wish to consider the OM-4 series for the mirror/aperture prefire if you have a problem with vibration induced blur in your rig. Moose > In 3 short weeks I have accumulated the following: > > Camera bodies: > ---------------- > - Olympus OM1 > - Olympus OM1n > - Olympus OM2n > - Olympus OM10 x 2 > > Lenses: > ------- > - 50mm 1.8 x 2 > - 50mm f3.5 Macro > - 200mm f4 > - 300mm f4.5 > - 21mm f3.5 - I decided to sell this lens... to wide for my taste: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370237984687 > - Some off brand lenses that I will sell soon > > Accessories: > ------------ > - 2 x Winder 2 > - Several focusing screens > - 2 x Varimagni > - 7mm extension tube > - Bellows > - Slide Copier > - Double Cable release > - Carl Shipman's book > - T20 flash > - T30 flash > > My immediate needs are: > > - Pair of 100mm lenses - I need pairs of lenses for 3d > - Another 200mm > - Another 300mm > - 500mm lens > > I think in a couple of months I will be done with what I need. I decided I > do not care much for the OM3 or OM4. The OM1 and OM2 bodies are fine for > what I do. > > To finance these and future purchases, I am now selling my Nikon collection. > I have a 300mm lens very similar to the Olympus, and the Nikon 500mm lens > (that can finance the 500mm Olympus lens) and numerous other bodies, lenses, > accessories. I cannot believe I wasted all this time with Nikon :) > > >> I've never made it past step three in the twelve step Zuikohaulic program. >> Perhaps you'll do better 8^) >> > > Is there a link to the complete 12 step program? I might need it at some > point... :) > > George > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 01:15:57 2009 Received: (qmail 16239 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 2009 23:15:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 1 Aug 2009 23:15:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2EAE1805E for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AA6E240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3973334AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:15:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF97834AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:15:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a74cca1301; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:15:45 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.ce2.4d1d54d8 (34989) for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.168]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB012-b22d4a74cc9beb; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:15:40 -0400 Received: from MBLK-M35 (mblk-m35.mblk.aol.com [64.12.136.79]) by smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE012-b22d4a74cc9beb; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:15:39 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:15:39 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.199 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com (64.12.136.79) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 01 Aug 2009 19:15:39 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE1151E58C406-CB8-6732@MBLK-M35.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 01:15:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74ccad35145368819438 Hi George. The T-S Oly bellows never was produced but prototypes did exist. I am still searching for the secret stash. I am told by more knowledgeable list members that they are in Wyoming. ;-) See the image at the end of the link. The Zuiko bellows lenses do have a very large image circle at least in part as they were likely to be used on this bellows. There are a few Hama/Spiratone T-S bellows which came with OM adapters floating around---very rare and now very $$$$. They look well made and are very adjustable. A compact T-S solution for OM does exist as Mirex can make one of their very compact adapters in OM mount. I am told I have the first and only, though they have said they will make more on request. You have infinity focus with Mamiya lenses, though I have a custom adapter to use my Zuiko macro lenses. There is no digital solution for diffraction with stopping down to get more DOF, and tilting with the Mirex adapter is really a quite cool solution on OM. If you want more movement, one can attach a Mamiya T-S bellows to the Mirex and mount the Zuiko on the bellows. I don't have one yet but have been watching a few on yabe. If you really get the T-S bug for OM, let me know on or off list and I will send you the info. I didn't see the autotube or Z 135 macro on your list. Worth checking out. Mike http://olympus.dementia.org/eSIF/om-sif/macrophotogroup.htm Also, both Nikon and Minolta have more sophisticated bellows with shift and tilt control, while Olympus does not. (I saw a picture of a prototype somewhere with these features but it was never produced). Still, I don't mind having simple bellows like the Olympus. The Pentax 50mm f3.5 macro lens was a disappointment (compared to Minolta/Nikon). photographing a flat object (my computer screen) resulted in unacceptable distortion. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 03:26:06 2009 Received: (qmail 9693 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 01:26:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 01:26:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EEBE18064 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA0CE240E0 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931F51A02AC for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E811A029A for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 03:26:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a74eb2e234681076813867 There are a couple of XA's on Buffalo Craigslist: http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pho/1298727711.html Just fyi, no connection. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 05:42:01 2009 Received: (qmail 25247 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 03:42:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 03:42:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA3CE180B5 for ; 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Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.135.208 with SMTP id e16mr437120hbe.37.1249184513134; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:41:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <971424852.6268831249152327294.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <971424852.6268831249152327294.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:41:53 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c935af2090c78fe9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 05:42:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a750b09323891258626592 JimT wrote: > > Welcome to the list. My condensation of your comments fairly well sums it > up. You're in the beginning stages of denial, obviously. > George has no clue what he's getting into. Wait till he finds out about the OM-3Ti... Oh, and silvernosed vs blacknosed lenses. Welcome George. AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 06:07:23 2009 Received: (qmail 16243 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 04:07:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 04:07:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0CBE18062 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1118E240B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59431A03BD for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:07:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8DA1A03BC for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:07:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n72478qR023044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:07:15 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:06:57 +1000 Message-ID: <000001ca1326$b111cfe0$13356fa0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoS8oB0vuYQ137lEd6nogAKlchBUgANAvIg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Dire Straits .... "Why Worry" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 06:07:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7510fb93912439112457 > hundreds times that and is bankrupt. Why? > My guess is that she is stupid ! ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 06:27:15 2009 Received: (qmail 10400 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 04:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 04:27:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20194E18236 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44481E240B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E891A03E4 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5574A1A03E5 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2098007fxm.14 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:27:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.136.68 with SMTP id g4mr458480hbg.58.1249187226688; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:27:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000001ca1326$b111cfe0$13356fa0$@com.au> References: <000001ca1326$b111cfe0$13356fa0$@com.au> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:27:06 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 164ab9e63eef2a2d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Dire Straits .... "Why Worry" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 06:27:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7515a340336789618724 > > My guess is that she is stupid ! > Artists are rarely good business managers. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 06:29:38 2009 Received: (qmail 12017 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 04:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 04:29:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21031E1805A for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A82E240B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D8434AC008 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3323234AC003 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:29:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (photo@frozenlight.eu whitelisted) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [77.210.137.203] (port=49410) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:1125) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MXShI-0005Am-2s (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:29:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Leica Users Group , LEG , Olympus Camera Discussion Message-Id: <08583822-F530-4142-9C82-1F60547F60FD@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 06:29:20 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 06:29:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a751632244731342116753 How can one not like a town where one can sit right here, have a good coffee served by friendly people, and watch life passing by? http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#608283600_xuUsX-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 06:49:26 2009 Received: (qmail 19647 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 04:49:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 04:49:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BDAEDC03B for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C05CE240B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A111A0409 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204FA1A0403 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 21:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2103552fxm.14 for ; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:49:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.136.68 with SMTP id g4mr461102hbg.58.1249188558812; Sat, 01 Aug 2009 21:49:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8CBDE778E0BEEC9-177C-5E@webmail-mh41.sysops.aol.com> <4A70BD93.80905@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907291459j28193f5dvcba2e4c7a7f99347@mail.gmail.com> <54A39D95-8A53-47CE-ABED-1D1D9F38284E@threeshoes.net> <51D921A841E0477B94942CB39B58C0D7@MAIN> <8CB8448A-E0A0-4E09-B04F-2DBD2D64CD1C@threeshoes.net> <426481B1198A4F59B32F9B5C7E6773EF@MAIN> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 23:49:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 60e7817bc1fb25a4 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus E-P1 review on DPR X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 06:49:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a751ad6228531258626592 I've missed a few shots because of the sleep-to-shoot time, but like anything else, I've just modified my mode of working so it isn't an issue. While looking for the next picture, if I see something coming up, I just tap the shutter release to keep the camera ready. I know, I know, I don't have to do this with any other brand of camera, but none of them have dust-control mechanism that work either. For me, it makes a lot of sense the way Olympus has implemented it, even though it causes the delay issue. I change lenses so much that I lean on this feature more than most. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 07:46:36 2009 Received: (qmail 14621 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 05:46:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 05:46:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF3EE1806B for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A50E240B8 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA773610002 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A404E3610001 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 1 Aug 2009 22:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16F9C96AE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:14:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <5E0129E4-7865-48EA-BBEF-C5083E1EC246@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <08583822-F530-4142-9C82-1F60547F60FD@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 06:46:25 +0100 References: <08583822-F530-4142-9C82-1F60547F60FD@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 07:46:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75283c81001136683642 Delightful, Nathan. Chris On 2 Aug 2009, at 05:29, Nathan wrote: > How can one not like a town where one can sit right here, have a good > coffee served by friendly people, and watch life passing by? > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#608283600_xuUsX-O-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 11:37:50 2009 Received: (qmail 31053 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 09:37:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 09:37:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C97EDC01F for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBEEE240B8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26E83610002 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F023610001 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (smtp03.online.nl [194.134.41.33]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AC1681B0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp03.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:37:38 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:36:53 +0200 Message-ID: <929016FB2BAE480D99EAAFAC4BBB97D7@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <08583822-F530-4142-9C82-1F60547F60FD@frozenlight.eu> Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp03.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 11:37:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a755e6e93669730998309 OK, if you really want to hear one bad thing. The first girl is a smoker. But the town can hardly be kept responsible for that, so I guess the life you show us here is just "as good as it gets". Enjoy (as you do already) and keep the daily and weekly updates coming ;-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Nathan [mailto:photo@frozenlight.eu] > Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 6:29 > Aan: Leica Users Group; LEG; Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges > > > How can one not like a town where one can sit right here, > have a good > coffee served by friendly people, and watch life passing by? > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#608283600_xuUsX-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Image licensing: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release Date: 08/01/09 09:38:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 11:39:11 2009 Received: (qmail 2263 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 09:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 09:39:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB89EDC03B for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86109E240B8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0322E19DD94 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E06519DD92 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:39:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BB2C9725 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:07:25 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <9F91894A-8598-4A6F-8093-CAC6BCBD02FD@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <929016FB2BAE480D99EAAFAC4BBB97D7@wiliam> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:39:03 +0100 References: <929016FB2BAE480D99EAAFAC4BBB97D7@wiliam> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 11:39:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a755ebf297692013633067 I didn't notice, Wiliam. But at least that means that she will have a sexy, husky voice ... :-) Chris On 2 Aug 2009, at 10:36, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > OK, if you really want to hear one bad thing. The first girl is a > smoker. But the town can hardly be kept responsible for that, so I > guess > the life you show us here is just "as good as it gets". Enjoy (as > you do > already) and keep the daily and weekly updates coming ;-) > > Wiliam > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Nathan [mailto:photo@frozenlight.eu] >> Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 6:29 >> Aan: Leica Users Group; LEG; Olympus Camera Discussion >> Onderwerp: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges >> >> >> How can one not like a town where one can sit right here, >> have a good >> coffee served by friendly people, and watch life passing by? >> > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#608283600_xuUsX-O-LB -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 11:43:06 2009 Received: (qmail 21454 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 09:43:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 09:43:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5E0E182AE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BE6E240B8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2F419DD94 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD9019DD8D for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:43:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (smtp09.online.nl [194.134.42.54]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 02:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp09.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005F31E057 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:42:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp09.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:42:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:42:57 +0200 Message-ID: <8EEB4294BB1D42C8981EEF80D13B6EC6@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <9F91894A-8598-4A6F-8093-CAC6BCBD02FD@threeshoes.net> Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp09.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 11:43:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a755faa108673900897491 Argh Chris, Must you spoil everything? It took a while before I could find anything bad in Nathans photo's and now you make that into something positive also. Just can't stand it, spoiled my day! ;-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 11:39 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges > > > I didn't notice, Wiliam. But at least that means that she > will have a > sexy, husky voice ... :-) > > Chris > > On 2 Aug 2009, at 10:36, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > > OK, if you really want to hear one bad thing. The first girl is a > > smoker. But the town can hardly be kept responsible for that, so I > > guess > > the life you show us here is just "as good as it gets". Enjoy (as > > you do > > already) and keep the daily and weekly updates coming ;-) > > > > Wiliam > > > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > >> Van: Nathan [mailto:photo@frozenlight.eu] > >> Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 6:29 > >> Aan: Leica Users Group; LEG; Olympus Camera Discussion > >> Onderwerp: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges > >> > >> > >> How can one not like a town where one can sit right here, > have a good > >> coffee served by friendly people, and watch life passing by? > >> > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#608283600_xuUsX-O-LB > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release > Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 12:45:33 2009 Received: (qmail 17949 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 10:45:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 10:45:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC28E1805B for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD042E240BE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E5C3610002 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9C83610001 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17166 invoked by uid 504); 2 Aug 2009 10:45:25 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090801-0, 08/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] Here's what was needed for the E-P1 viewfinder X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 12:45:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a756e4d39591946193717 Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 14:42:10 2009 Received: (qmail 15321 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 12:42:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 12:42:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC206EDC00C for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407BAE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758819E05C for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:42:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD0B19DC1D for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 05:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3263 invoked by uid 504); 2 Aug 2009 12:42:03 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Aug 2009 12:42:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4A75899A.3040501@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:42:02 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <971424852.6268831249152327294.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090801-0, 08/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 14:42:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7589a291541357919056 Yes, welcome, George. You're just what we need to re-awaken discussion of the OM system. Most of us are old friends here, know most of the OM system from 10 or more years discussion on this list and thus spend 95% of our time on off-topic (although mostly photography related) subjects. Ask away and you shall be answered. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > JimT wrote: >> Welcome to the list. My condensation of your comments fairly well sums it >> up. You're in the beginning stages of denial, obviously. >> > > > George has no clue what he's getting into. Wait till he finds out about the > OM-3Ti... > > Oh, and silvernosed vs blacknosed lenses. > > Welcome George. > > AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 16:55:02 2009 Received: (qmail 574 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 14:55:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 14:55:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4F2E18255 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04501E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC95F19E317 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:54:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3999719E312 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:54:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2230388fxm.14 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:54:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.121.131 with SMTP id h3mr6407101bkr.172.1249224893882; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:54:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] Pen FT light meter callibration? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 16:55:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75a8c6183772013633067 hello, i there anyone on the list who can "enlighten" me on the callibration of a pen FT light meter? The meter seems to work well but is 2 stops off... Best regards, Iwert. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 18:29:36 2009 Received: (qmail 31489 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 16:29:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3584BE1805E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB46DE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5D219E5A8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8C319E5A4 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8867 invoked by uid 504); 2 Aug 2009 16:29:28 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 2 Aug 2009 16:29:28 -0000 Message-ID: <4A75BEE7.8080306@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:29:27 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090801-0, 08/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Pen FT light meter callibration? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 18:29:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75bef0150025368819438 Maybe what you need is here: Chuck Norcutt iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > hello, > > i there anyone on the list who can "enlighten" me on the callibration > of a pen FT light meter? > > The meter seems to work well but is 2 stops off... > > Best regards, > > Iwert. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 18:32:53 2009 Received: (qmail 4517 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 16:32:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 16:32:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EBDE180CD for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916E0E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718E319E5C6 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:32:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B5319E5C5 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:32:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 165.red-83-52-21.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([83.52.21.165]:50003 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MXdzD-0002eQ-G2 (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:32:41 +0000 Message-Id: <02A561A9-9AD6-46B9-86F0-ED8530EADD71@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:32:38 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 30: a lot of different stuff X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 18:32:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75bfb58041136683642 Well, the title of the page is "trees, dogs and good deeds" which probably does not make a lot of sense, but have a look. It was a good week with many different themes, hence the PAW is a bit larger than usual (21 images in total). The subjects include my usual slices of life, dog pee, and last but definitely not least, some people with Down's Syndrome having a great time: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=273 As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 19:04:32 2009 Received: (qmail 9133 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 17:04:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 17:04:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048FAEDC02A for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AEAE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2287B19E6B9 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7381A19E6A7 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:04:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MXeTw-0002e4-EV for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:04:24 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MXeTv-0001EN-PO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4A75C71C.2010005@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:04:28 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <02A561A9-9AD6-46B9-86F0-ED8530EADD71@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <02A561A9-9AD6-46B9-86F0-ED8530EADD71@frozenlight.eu> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 30: a lot of different stuff X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 19:04:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75c720105444877110844 Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Well, the title of the page is "trees, dogs and good deeds" which > probably does not make a lot of sense, but have a look. It was a good > week with many different themes, hence the PAW is a bit larger than > usual (21 images in total). The subjects include my usual slices of > life, dog pee, and last but definitely not least, some people with > Down's Syndrome having a great time: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=273 > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > Loved the diving shots, Nathan. Great, just great! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 19:12:23 2009 Received: (qmail 508 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 17:12:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 17:12:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F22EDC029 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C2DE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA8B19E6F2 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:12:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4F719E6EA for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:12:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32326 invoked by uid 504); 2 Aug 2009 17:12:12 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090801-0, 08/01/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 30: a lot of different stuff X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 19:12:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75c8f7238309730998309 No comments this week. I'm traveling and using the Krappy-Kolor laptop. :-) Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Well, the title of the page is "trees, dogs and good deeds" which > probably does not make a lot of sense, but have a look. It was a good > week with many different themes, hence the PAW is a bit larger than > usual (21 images in total). The subjects include my usual slices of > life, dog pee, and last but definitely not least, some people with > Down's Syndrome having a great time: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=273 > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 20:39:23 2009 Received: (qmail 27841 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E044EDC026 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9528DE240BE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7370519E905 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:39:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC1919E904 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35AF461586 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:03:41 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <226B78ED-11C3-436D-A470-D60C0169E65A@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <02A561A9-9AD6-46B9-86F0-ED8530EADD71@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:39:13 +0100 References: <02A561A9-9AD6-46B9-86F0-ED8530EADD71@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 30: a lot of different stuff X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 20:39:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75dd5b198081413256596 Very good deeds, Nathan. I like the photos as well ... Chris On 2 Aug 2009, at 17:32, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Well, the title of the page is "trees, dogs and good deeds" which > probably does not make a lot of sense, but have a look. It was a good > week with many different themes, hence the PAW is a bit larger than > usual (21 images in total). The subjects include my usual slices of > life, dog pee, and last but definitely not least, some people with > Down's Syndrome having a great time: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=273 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 20:46:06 2009 Received: (qmail 24527 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 18:46:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 18:46:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B90BE181AC for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4623BE240BE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C580634AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C5C34AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6484615F8 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:10:24 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8EEB4294BB1D42C8981EEF80D13B6EC6@wiliam> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:45:56 +0100 References: <8EEB4294BB1D42C8981EEF80D13B6EC6@wiliam> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 20:46:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75deee316621220213263 :-) And as you get older, Wiliam, you will find yourself getting less fussy where women are concerned ... :-) Chris On 2 Aug 2009, at 10:42, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Argh Chris, > > Must you spoil everything? It took a while before I could find > anything > bad in Nathans photo's and now you make that into something positive > also. Just can't stand it, spoiled my day! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 21:37:45 2009 Received: (qmail 14231 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 19:37:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 19:37:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D521EDC025 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D463E240BE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A4734AC00E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD0334AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mwalters@rogers.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 58162 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2009 19:37:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (mwalters@99.241.188.157 with plain) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 19:37:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: yX.5FoYVM1m9aqfkG6XhM1WD.LA02TT_DbIv19NgsJOPTWZcTba6JukGm6l8MPTXWQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4A75EB03.8070402@rogers.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:37:39 -0400 From: Martin Walters User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Photos from vacation in Canada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 21:37:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75eb09195111946193717 Jez: Happy you had an enjoyable trip. Seems even the weather cooperated (it's not been a great summer so far!). Maman, the spider, is one of six bronze castings by Louise Bourgeois, a French-born, American artist. Of the others, one is on long-term loan to the State Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg, one is on display in Havana; the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain, Tokyo's Mori Art Museum and Seoul's Samsung Museum of Modern Art have acquired the other three. Apparently, there's a steel version of Maman on loan to London's Tate Modern. Martin Jez Cunningham wrote: > OK, I promised... 66 pictures culled out of the 500+ candidates, covering > Ottawa, Kingston, Thousand Islands, Loyalist parkway, Prince Edward County, > Toronto, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Niagara Falls, Finger Lakes (NY State), ending > up back at Montreal airport. > > http://picasaweb.google.be/jez.cunningham/Canada#slideshow/5363521079619968450 > > So, MANY thanks to all of you who helped with our vacation planning. We had > the trip of a lifetime and can't wait to go back! > > Cheers > jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 22:34:22 2009 Received: (qmail 20099 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 20:34:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 20:34:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2148BEDC043 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9363E240BE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C092A19ED57 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9276119ECB2 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jmalmstrom@mac.com whitelisted) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [172.28.2.2] (c-83-233-110-3.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.110.3]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KNR00KM4NT0CA60@asmtp024.mac.com> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <363A5DA3-39EF-4792-8FA5-8404D53BACD1@mac.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Malmstr=F6m?= To: olympus@thomasclausen.net In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:34:11 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Very sad day : Long live Maitani San X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 22:34:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a75f84e172979752976205 Sad news indeed. / Johan 2 aug 2009 kl. 12.16 skrev olympus-request@thomasclausen.net: > > Dear all, > > I've been shocked by the news that Maitani passed away. > Just recently we had a lively discussion via EMail amongst members > of this forum, whether there is any chance to get Maitani's private > address and to be able to say a personal 'thank you' to him and/or > to get his autograph. > > I feel a deep inner relationship to the spirit he has brought to my > professional life as an engineer and to the long sightedness, as > well as his personal ways to convince design teams and upper > management about his ideas. It proves to me that sometimes a certain > stubbornness together with a humouristic view is necessary to push a > new idea forward. > > I wish him all the best on his future path and am sure that he will > live forever in the memories of those who are using his system > throughout many many years to come. > > Only some days ago I unpacked a juvenile black OM1n together with a > 85mm Zuiko and - although I did not take a single shot yet - I felt > a deep inner joy about the design of one of his first amsterpieces > within the OM series. > > Time to buy another one.... > > With best wishes > The second Iwert on the list -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 2 23:14:46 2009 Received: (qmail 5207 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2009 21:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 2 Aug 2009 21:14:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9022EDC03A for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC4DE240BE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D292934AC011 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:14:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E19C34AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:14:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (smtp02.online.nl [194.134.41.32]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC45A12F for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp02.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:14:37 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:14:35 +0200 Message-ID: <8E821C2691324D068480E9524DB9926B@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp02.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 2 23:14:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7601c641662517112723 Good point Chris, Although, as I am married to a woman who is 6.5 years older than I, I guess I am not fussy already ;-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 20:46 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges > > > :-) > > And as you get older, Wiliam, you will find yourself getting less > fussy where women are concerned ... :-) > > Chris > > On 2 Aug 2009, at 10:42, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > > Argh Chris, > > > > Must you spoil everything? It took a while before I could find > > anything > > bad in Nathans photo's and now you make that into something positive > > also. Just can't stand it, spoiled my day! > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release > Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 03:27:06 2009 Received: (qmail 23539 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 01:27:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 01:27:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5830FE18059 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B05E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2022419FADA for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:27:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE9919FAD7 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:26:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.68]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1984 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 01:26:58 -0000 Message-ID: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aZZSzcgVM1kQv1PQ3nRy3RsaWefWnXL83f4UFQQ3wtWNiW3fosSoejPLmnVMLiHHfT2EHebBozTR1cmLdJZIhA9c5C4iqf_dv0HD8xaERzqEfleK23TA4XqtDAO8ZzE1DSifPB9Q7XVk0qWT8u.3jhqM2jNk21k31aVHBy6KwqOMeblyQiLpRN4VBoJXshGQJDXiciNNt.lGznauVQHJJmYUfTmYEZcBYEatw15JIfYaYhLPR3DGlxjYXv5zJKvA9Hmu7a4ZkD2jrz3eCSvcXdJx3PahiwSO9l.LGjqMwx3QSxU0oD.6uDGKPh_1Q3jQIBXi6peLuoKkn0yggzN8wANQC5V3owB7yy9ayNwss.ml Received: from [71.186.250.16] by web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:26:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8E821C2691324D068480E9524DB9926B@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 03:27:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a763cea68673900897491 Rochester Craigslist: http://rochester.craigslist.org/pho/1302454980.html $950....ouch!! No connection, etc. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 03:41:08 2009 Received: (qmail 3940 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 01:41:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 01:41:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029CBE1806A for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812A6E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B94319FB14 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:41:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61DE19FB12 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n731etdF016187 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:40:55 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bef.4b7b2b4e (65097) for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:40:52 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:40:52 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 03:41:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a764034135961234514069 A little pricey. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/2/2009 8:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, alizookoman@yahoo.com writes: Rochester Craigslist: http://rochester.craigslist.org/pho/1302454980.html $950....ouch!! No connection, etc. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 03:54:26 2009 Received: (qmail 28694 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 01:54:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 01:54:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D99CE18061 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D7E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACF034AC00E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:54:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494DC34AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:54:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bs.pearce@cox.net whitelisted) Received: from eastrmmtao104.cox.net (eastrmmtao104.cox.net [68.230.240.46]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 18:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090803015418.DKWQ22413.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:54:18 -0400 Received: from SueHome ([68.102.1.211]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id PduJ1c00E4Z9Gks02duJWC; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:54:18 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=GtJrHIBgAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=-dsu22HPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=VmYIVyjZpObyRsLN7NgA:9 a=G8fIJh4hzDxX7a0xcoQA:7 a=g7B64BbDbT_qC-ImjDRWkLqY5VMA:4 a=AJvhUiri8eMA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=Artn-uqpBiUA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <52DEFC7A4A6E4C9D976D0CFD86312D7E@SueHome> From: "Sue Pearce" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:54:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 03:54:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a764352181385368819438 What a craptastic collection! A few good things with some other cheapie or less desirable lenses (I sold my 75-150 in the seventies!) The roll of 120 film will be good in the OM1. Bill Pearce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. >A little pricey. Bill Barber > > > In a message dated 8/2/2009 8:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > alizookoman@yahoo.com writes: > > > Rochester Craigslist: > > http://rochester.craigslist.org/pho/1302454980.html > > $950....ouch!! > > No connection, etc. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2278 - Release Date: 08/02/09 17:56:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 04:14:51 2009 Received: (qmail 17593 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 02:14:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 02:14:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB620EDC026 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B34E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62CD34AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEBF34AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 64177 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 02:14:45 -0000 Message-ID: <947481.64150.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NVjfS7kVM1kzTwBDxp9nO7Jf4E4adchMtjPYuylCW5_MA9_5A_qLlaRIlE3L7cq9aniLz0agDFjD_1w_6CzaShXaI60Ne8rkVAU2cbKdmyqcive0KkYsYvvLADFsLgnPidQfZ1Umf52W6hLuuKU2K_K99T1_qLu3oU61oEG9GOwXx97ZbuQShbxA1YCjef8DQfHAzXZFLzgtUy.N4TyzCC5BPnbJ1ZCd6XbBNNIMeqjdFKp6SFe8FLNlyB8xCr3MPEOIuoe16IWN.SjBfuJBPgKZSOiOyw56ScYTFUi1TVm.dO3DLxdyJHoM70udKeE1rudkAme3INdtzHD1GNBLTkdKLD7.Z5vw5I.N2ukYkrnlP377RmkALg-- Received: from [71.186.250.16] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:14:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 04:14:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76481b7832439112457 Just a little! 8-) = .. > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 9:40 PM > A little pricey.=A0 Bill Barber > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 04:18:42 2009 Received: (qmail 13155 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 02:18:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 02:18:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB6CEDC006 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EC4E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4448219FB77 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:18:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863A719FB72 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:18:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18734 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 02:18:35 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 02:18:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:18:34 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090802-0, 08/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 04:18:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a764902179145368819438 I sent him an email telling him he has the telsecopic auto extension tube and that it and the 50mm macro were modestly valuable but that the rest of the collection was not and that he'd not be able to sell for $950. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > > Rochester Craigslist: > > http://rochester.craigslist.org/pho/1302454980.html > > $950....ouch!! > > No connection, etc. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 04:30:00 2009 Received: (qmail 2053 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 02:29:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 02:29:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956C2E1817D for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFEAE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0445519FBB0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:29:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94B619FBAD for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:29:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090803022953H030024ptbe>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:29:54 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <220F9CB48CDF46648B526101C496EB57@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:29:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 04:30:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a764ba861385368819438 >I sent him an email telling him he has the telsecopic auto extension > tube and that it and the 50mm macro were modestly valuable but that the > rest of the collection was not and that he'd not be able to sell for $950. Where do you see the telescopic extension? George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 04:37:05 2009 Received: (qmail 936 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 02:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 02:37:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D789E181B2 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0080E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BB919EBBE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:36:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0D019EB0C for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:36:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.64]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 52765 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 02:36:57 -0000 Message-ID: <784929.52133.qm@web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ihLQcR4VM1ns3N6wkLZg0qapnU88WcyqE.OmwCmVwjaPCsDvZCuy3PrZ6o5YeHO4vGO77zNd3LeQx0jpiE9e_KwUPx3b6C.DXfygkqnQHr_fiLb1FpTG7mvYM.Jl6jlyx2XPK1CZBocq9Xe3qC.RbupwDTsRgfkLmqO7BXmNhC.H36e1IDPvO.8OzfsrOMtaDZssnNcrGn4nqaeRcK79Y57wykx_e3GFnyAoAPrTPPRR2YNk4cQ.udh5RHeJxTU6MdaScma4TNOfRD921a1NcIZEDOWO45zSPUc5X.Pybo9BxBi3hrPc10jDe0lLFXsPqchQW8bdnZKgpp5qAjl5SYNNiIKPx943Chqv20qX5SwSznf_qw-- Received: from [71.186.250.16] by web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:36:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:36:57 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <220F9CB48CDF46648B526101C496EB57@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 04:37:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a764d5162761136683642 In the description the seller mentions: "There is also an attachment that I am not familiar with - it is made by Olympus, and looks like a lens without glass that can be attached to a tripod. The markings indicate that it works for a 135mm; 80mm; Macro; 38mm; or 20mm lens. I am guessing that its another type of teleconverter. " I assume this is what Chuck referred to. > > Where do you see the telescopic extension? > > George > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 04:40:55 2009 Received: (qmail 19448 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 02:40:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 02:40:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 373DAE18177 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D86E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92F434AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C0134AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31421 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 02:40:49 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 02:40:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4A764E30.5070601@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:40:48 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <220F9CB48CDF46648B526101C496EB57@home> In-Reply-To: <220F9CB48CDF46648B526101C496EB57@home> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090802-0, 08/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 04:40:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a764e3791021220213263 He doesn't know what it is but describes it thus: "There is also an attachment that I am not familiar with - it is made by Olympus, and looks like a lens without glass that can be attached to a tripod. The markings indicate that it works for a 135mm; 80mm; Macro; 38mm; or 20mm lens. I am guessing that its another type of teleconverter." Sure sounds like the 65-116 auto tube to me. :-) He also has a 50mm macro but it's not known whether it's the 3.5 or 2.0 Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> I sent him an email telling him he has the telsecopic auto extension >> tube and that it and the 50mm macro were modestly valuable but that the >> rest of the collection was not and that he'd not be able to sell for $950. > > Where do you see the telescopic extension? > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 05:20:12 2009 Received: (qmail 21254 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 03:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 03:20:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F397BEDC058 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFDFE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180034AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:20:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802EF34AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:20:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090803032004H05002ite3e>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:20:05 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:19:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 05:20:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76576c94629730998309 I am sorry but why are you helping this guy by pointing out some potentially valuable items? Here are the facts: 1) You don't know him, 2) He is getting rid of Olympus stuff instead of keeping them/using them, so he clearly has no appreciation, only monetary expectations, 3) He is asking a crazy amount of money. I would not help him by pointing out what has value and what has not... Let him figure it out for himself. " I think it would be a great for a photographer who is starting out and needs some basic, efficient film equipment!" At $950???? Ignoring him will be the right thing to do. Or, if you can snap the valuable telescopic extension for $25 and let him try to sell the rest for $925, that would be nice too. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 05:24:05 2009 Received: (qmail 4941 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 03:24:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 03:24:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664B9EDC006 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF10E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422AD34AC00E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:23:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC14134AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.63]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12345 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 03:23:58 -0000 Message-ID: <277550.10759.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 15gByCwVM1m.naxtoCNALyfoPZy5oDcRrxV6wes8v.uLDLVHTvWomCOEWhQt3s26gneZnpW5iYiP8c7onNHgdgeVgGshV9EhO3uo_75Z8kQLcnDpmz4WJuluDTosBg_FQ1iB4R9BIL4_e54pawQIBsQayy3ZKsZ5.UbkUp2UikTv1COiM3QNYylsbPO.XWP_Lf2hOUmwuE26ErW2YURum89csqkBcc2kPfYiBGQ6i2_860Hr55Isl66n.t6s9OqZcQRLYvh.lcusCa8OTNsYeHfr39YU3.22dAYI2MO_uuyWNTk4.X2QUVc7Oc7J3PpvrZocxvwYkCEuWw-- Received: from [71.186.250.16] by web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:23:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 05:24:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a765855248251342116753 It is acceptable to knock sense into people. The items might have some valu= e but certainly not over the top. Some people try to sell stuff for more th= an you might pay at retail. = > I am sorry but why are you helping > this guy by pointing out some potentially = > valuable items? > = > Here are the facts:=A0 1) You don't know him, 2) He is > getting rid of Olympus = > stuff instead of keeping them/using them, so he clearly has > no appreciation, = > only monetary expectations, 3) He is asking a crazy amount > of money. > = > I would not help him by pointing out what has value and > what has not... Let = > him figure it out for himself. > = > " I think it would be a great for a photographer who is > starting out and = > needs some basic, efficient film equipment!" > = > At $950???? > = > Ignoring him will be the right thing to do. > = > Or, if you can snap the valuable telescopic extension for > $25 and let him = > try to sell the rest for $925, that would be nice too. > = > George = > = > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 05:38:10 2009 Received: (qmail 1957 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 03:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 03:38:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13144E182AE for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8525DE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD7C34AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:38:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8D334AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:38:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090803033804H05002ivige>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:38:04 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <277550.10759.qm@web39802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:37:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 05:38:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a765ba260301220213263 > Some people try to sell stuff for more than you might pay at retail. I have been monitoring the photo section of our local Craig list ads, and just about everything is overpriced, maybe 2-3x prices realized in ebay. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 05:46:27 2009 Received: (qmail 12145 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 03:46:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 03:46:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09050EDC01C for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9BEE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6F434AC00E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3216234AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 20:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:60095 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXoVA-0000Lp-I9 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:46:22 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:46:31 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] OM Lot. Thread-Index: AcoT7PzrO5/bfH/gEd6smgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 05:46:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a765d93102011342116753 Usually people on craigslist price old film cameras as though digital never happened...like you said, 2-3 times the real value, ands ometimes even more than that! BUT there are good deals at times. When I lived in Santa Fe, I bought a 85mm f2 Zuiko in real nice shape for $50! -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/2/09 11:37 PM, "DrT (George Themelis)" wrote: >> Some people try to sell stuff for more than you might pay at retail. > > I have been monitoring the photo section of our local Craig list ads, and > just about everything is overpriced, maybe 2-3x prices realized in ebay. > > George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 06:04:04 2009 Received: (qmail 14269 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 04:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 04:04:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D4CEDC013 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29433E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B7319FCB6 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:03:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A353719FCB1 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:03:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090803040357H030024fute>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:03:58 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:03:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 06:04:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7661b4167061357919056 > Usually people on craigslist price old film cameras as though digital > never happened... Did digital really happen? Someone, please, wake me up! :) I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), for personal photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. Nothing in digital compares to the quality and realism of looking at a pair of sharp stereo slides in a good 3-D viewer. Progress is being made, but I have not seen anything to convince me to switch to digital stereo photography.... So, I keep shooting/mounting stereo slides, despite the cost and time required. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 06:35:20 2009 Received: (qmail 1367 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 04:35:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 04:35:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03062EDC039 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C418E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222CF34AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE1634AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl36.gs02.gridserver.com (cl36.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.45]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 21:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:60099 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl36.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXpGT-0002d0-19 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:35:14 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:35:24 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) Thread-Index: AcoT89EgD3wFJ3/nEd64UQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 06:35:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a766908103921744846740 George, I shoot a couple rolls a week average in my OM bodies, plus I put a bit of film through my Hasselblad too. I had two digital SLRs, a Nikon D200 and a D70. I never use them. I gave my son the D70, he shoots with it a lot. Check out my website, its is 90% film. The digital stuff was shot back when I had a Kodak 14n, a fullframe digital camera that I tried to use to go all digital. I got a lot of great stuff from the 14n, but I missed the look of black and white film and medium format color film, and I HATED the ergonomics of the 14n and my other digital bodies. Even the Hasselblad, which is a pain in the ass to shoot with, is nicer to work with than the 14n. I'm back to being nearly 100% film, though I did break out the D200 to shoot a rainbow that appeared after a storm last week, and the pics looked pretty cool! My comment about digital 'happening' was a reference to the prices of used film cameras dropping to near-zero after most people went digital. OM bodies are fairly unique in that some of them do still sell for high prices used, like the OM-4T and the OM-3Ti. Most 35mm film SLRs sell on ebay for less than $50 now, 1/3 what they would have sold for in the pre-digital era. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/3/09 12:03 AM, "DrT (George Themelis)" wrote: >> Usually people on craigslist price old film cameras as though digital >> never happened... > > Did digital really happen? Someone, please, wake me up! :) > > I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with > their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? > > Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), for personal > photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. > > Nothing in digital compares to the quality and realism of looking at a pair > of sharp stereo slides in a good 3-D viewer. Progress is being made, but I > have not seen anything to convince me to switch to digital stereo > photography.... So, I keep shooting/mounting stereo slides, despite the cost > and time required. > > George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 07:39:01 2009 Received: (qmail 26777 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 05:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 05:39:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705CFEDC043 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E198E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6278734AC00E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D48B34AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Phco1c0020vp7WLADheucu; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:38:54 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.21.28.234]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Phet1c00J533qFs8Rhetew; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:38:53 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:38:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 07:39:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7677f5324271612113968 DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > > Did digital really happen? Someone, please, wake me up! :) > > I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with > their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? > > Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), for personal > photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. > > Nothing in digital compares to the quality and realism of looking at a > pair > of sharp stereo slides in a good 3-D viewer. Progress is being made, but > I > have not seen anything to convince me to switch to digital stereo > photography.... So, I keep shooting/mounting stereo slides, despite the > cost > and time required. > > George I'm not a professional photographer, but I don't even own a digital, unless you count my cell phone camera. The biggest reason for me is that I just can't justify that large of a one time expense of a good high quality system. Sure it might be cheaper than film in the long run, but as a hobbiest, it's just not worth it to me. The only thing that has even made me consider it is that it would be nice to have the instant feedback that a digital with a screen on it offers. Just my 2 cents, Darin -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 08:02:02 2009 Received: (qmail 20255 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 06:02:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 06:02:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0ABE1817A for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13FCE240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A999934AC003 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8A534AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:01:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl38.gs02.gridserver.com (cl38.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.47]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:61145 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl38.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MXqcM-0002Df-Ea for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:01:55 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:02:05 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) Thread-Index: AcoT/+0pK+Zeyn/zEd6rTAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 08:02:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a767d5a273421220213263 I have digital cameras because I used to do a lot of commercial work when I lived in New Mexico, and clients simply demand digital. Layout of ads, catalogs, etc. is all done on the computer using software like InDesign and QuarkXpress, film has to be scanned to work for that, digital is easier when clients wont pay for scanning, they want a ready to use file. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/3/09 1:38 AM, "Darin" wrote: > > DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> >> Did digital really happen? Someone, please, wake me up! :) >> >> I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with >> their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? >> >> Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), for personal >> photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. >> >> Nothing in digital compares to the quality and realism of looking at a >> pair >> of sharp stereo slides in a good 3-D viewer. Progress is being made, but >> I >> have not seen anything to convince me to switch to digital stereo >> photography.... So, I keep shooting/mounting stereo slides, despite the >> cost >> and time required. >> >> George > > I'm not a professional photographer, but I don't even own a digital, unless > you count my cell phone camera. The biggest reason for me is that I just > can't justify that large of a one time expense of a good high quality > system. Sure it might be cheaper than film in the long run, but as a > hobbiest, it's just not worth it to me. The only thing that has even made me > consider it is that it would be nice to have the instant feedback that a > digital with a screen on it offers. > > Just my 2 cents, > Darin -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 08:49:23 2009 Received: (qmail 17880 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD966E18236 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CB1E240E0 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A0134AC00E for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:49:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A66C34AC008 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:49:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 23:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:49661 helo=ians-mac-pro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXrMC-000152-Tn for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:49:17 -0500 Message-ID: <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:49:09 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> In-Reply-To: <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 08:49:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76887383061950411718 I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at work I hope I can catch up this week. We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the mountains and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the Hammetschwandlift a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were sure busy a hundred years ago. I have added an end of week marker photo to make it easy to see the pictures loaded this week I also tried a picture of a norwegian candle we had lit but concede defeat to my wifes photographic superiority (on this occasion ;-) ) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 09:26:21 2009 Received: (qmail 4431 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 07:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 07:26:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD25E1806A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3010FE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DDF34AC011 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:26:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7734AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 00:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32509065.8721249285114441.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 922 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:38:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:26:04 +0200 References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 09:26:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76911d171073900897491 Same Here, that is a bit rough. Isn't this sort of thing caused by extreme spherical abberation in the out-of-focus areas? A Yashica TLR I used to use had this, but just enough to be pleasant (see, for example, this photo: (80mm, f/3.5 wide open) http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/194/d/b/Graswiel_by_philosomatographer.jpg But in the extreme measures exhibited by the link provided, yes - "yikes", that's really distracting. On 01 Aug 2009, at 3:39 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yikes, I was getting seasick from the "bokeh". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 10:13:15 2009 Received: (qmail 6327 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 08:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 08:13:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E32EDC044 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7095CE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D0A19DC61 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:13:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5CF19DC48 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:13:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F656C973E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:41:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:13:04 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 10:13:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a769c1b218931258626592 Ian The one of the funicular (your spelling is even worse than Ken's :-)), and the lovely mountain pasture that precedes it, are lovely shots. The former because I admire the preciseness and thoroughness of germanic peoples, the latter because I should like to visit such a pasture again. The End of Week marker is a good idea, by the way. Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 07:49, SwissPace wrote: > I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at > work > I hope I can catch up this week. > > We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the > mountains and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the > Hammetschwandlift a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were > sure > busy a hundred years ago. > > > > > I have added an end of week marker photo to make it easy to see the > pictures loaded this week -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 10:14:37 2009 Received: (qmail 12620 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 08:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 08:14:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D6BE181AC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404BE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099F234AC00E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:14:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC73134AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:14:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4329FC96E5 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:42:55 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <32509065.8721249285114441.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:14:31 +0100 References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> <32509065.8721249285114441.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 10:14:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a769c6d60401744846740 I am not sure that the bokeh is particularly attractive, Dawid; but the careful focus, and its contrast with the out-of-focus background, is very effective. Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 08:26, Dawid Loubser wrote: > A Yashica TLR I used to use had this, but just enough to be pleasant > (see, for example, > this photo: (80mm, f/3.5 wide open) > > http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/194/d/b/Graswiel_by_philosomatographer.jpg > > But in the extreme measures exhibited by the link provided, yes - > "yikes", that's > really distracting. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 10:49:14 2009 Received: (qmail 13473 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 08:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 08:49:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56290E18062 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB52E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADEC34AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:49:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83934AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:49:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MXtDz-0003WU-EG for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:49:07 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:48:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 10:49:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76a48a24976789618724 You are right, Chris, but try and goog'l the word 'vernicular' and you will be astonished (or probably appalled, in your case!) about how many people think this is the right way to spell it. Maybe people are confusing it with 'vermicular'? Vermicular railway, aka Tube. Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:13:04 +0100, Chris Barker wrote: >Ian > >The one of the funicular (your spelling is even worse than Ken's :-)), >and the lovely mountain pasture that precedes it, are lovely shots. >The former because I admire the preciseness and thoroughness of >germanic peoples, the latter because I should like to visit such a >pasture again. > >The End of Week marker is a good idea, by the way. > >Chris > >On 3 Aug 2009, at 07:49, SwissPace wrote: > >> I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at >> work >> I hope I can catch up this week. >> >> We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the >> mountains and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the >> Hammetschwandlift a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were >> sure >> busy a hundred years ago. >> >> > > >> >> I have added an end of week marker photo to make it easy to see the >> pictures loaded this week -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 11:02:50 2009 Received: (qmail 13693 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 09:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 09:02:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8921DE1822E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85210E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715DB34AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFAC34AC00E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MXtR8-0006rm-RB for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:02:44 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:02:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Photos from vacation in Canada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 11:02:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76a7ba154825368819438 Jez, It took me some time to catch up with the list (because of my own holiday trip), but your pictures have convinced me: I must go and visit Canada. I was busy making the choice between Canada and the USA, but now I am sure. The difference is even bigger than the one between Holland and Belgium! ;-) Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:11:47 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >OK, I promised... 66 pictures culled out of the 500+ candidates, covering >Ottawa, Kingston, Thousand Islands, Loyalist parkway, Prince Edward County, >Toronto, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Niagara Falls, Finger Lakes (NY State), ending >up back at Montreal airport. > >http://picasaweb.google.be/jez.cunningham/Canada#slideshow/5363521079619968450 > >So, MANY thanks to all of you who helped with our vacation planning. We had >the trip of a lifetime and can't wait to go back! > >Cheers >jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 11:08:37 2009 Received: (qmail 28122 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 09:08:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 09:08:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B0BE1805D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04135E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4519DBAC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B2219DBA7 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183A9C96FE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:36:55 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <0B334B15-112F-4E7D-B3A3-E575F5F6FA6F@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:08:30 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 11:08:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76a915162099752976205 Appalled indeed, Frank! :-) But how about confusion with "vernacular"; that would be ironic ... Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 09:48, Frank van Lindert wrote: > You are right, Chris, but try and goog'l the word 'vernicular' and you > will be astonished (or probably appalled, in your case!) about how > many people think this is the right way to spell it. > > Maybe people are confusing it with 'vermicular'? > Vermicular railway, aka Tube. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 11:39:39 2009 Received: (qmail 24841 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 09:39:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 09:39:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3037EE18069 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02079E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EAF19DF31 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:39:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8767E19DF12 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:39:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:49424 helo=ians-mac-pro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXu0x-0003EU-SK for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:39:32 -0500 Message-ID: <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:39:24 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 11:39:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76b05b224341357919056 I wonder if this is due to the pronunciation of the f and v in german and somehow hearing it pronounced in German it has got mispelt as in my case, but I must use the same defence as Ken would I don't live in a Queen's English speaking country :-) and my standards have indeed dropped partly because of this and partly due to lack of time because of work an family. I will however try and improve. Thanks for looking Chris and has your new macbook arrived yet? Frank van Lindert wrote: > You are right, Chris, but try and goog'l the word 'vernicular' and you > will be astonished (or probably appalled, in your case!) about how > many people think this is the right way to spell it. > > Maybe people are confusing it with 'vermicular'? > Vermicular railway, aka Tube. > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > > > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:13:04 +0100, Chris Barker wrote: > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 11:48:06 2009 Received: (qmail 14066 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 09:48:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 09:48:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C245E182AE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B31E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F91934AC00E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:48:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECB734AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:47:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.25]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.204] (204.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.204]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3197E3DB3C0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:47:52 +1200 (NZST) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:47:53 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090802-0, 02/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 11:48:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76b25630311946193717 Hi all, Sorry this is so late ... Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for landscapes. The top two links at http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm The top link is a resizing of a 3648 x 2736 5.64 MB E-3 image that has been mildly sharpened (3) in fast stone. Camera tripod mounted, lens Oly DZ 14 ~ 54mm lens @20mm. Don't remember if I used time delay; might have. Link second from top is what I got by clicking on the above image in Fast-- Stone to yield a full-size image, and pressing the then saving as the name I had previously stored in virtual memory. In my opinion, the resolution of the full-size version leaves a lot to be desired. It is plain fuzzy. What do you think? Incidentally, following up on what Moose wrote about some of my other images of which he discovered (don't know how) that I had been using a Custom WB setting. Not quite so, it was a pre-set setting, but not a good one. I think I had made my best guess for a reason that escapes my memory now as I don't know why I altered it in the first place. Didn't have the manual with me, did I? Anyway, several potential good images were rendered useless as a result of that unfortunate oversight. Some colours are just SO wrong, and there's no fixing them. Cheers Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 11:50:19 2009 Received: (qmail 13278 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 09:50:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 09:50:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D68EDC020 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3624E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D4D34AC014 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:50:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCAD34AC012 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:50:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:49469 helo=ians-mac-pro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXuBJ-0004tO-2m for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: <4A76B2CE.1040106@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:50:06 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Photos from vacation in Canada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 11:50:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76b2db209971258626592 I am also trying to sort through the list mail but this mail from Frank prompted me to look at the gallery, lovely shots but I am intrigued to know if the museum of barrels is still there, i was amazed at the courage and in some cases stupidity of those adventurers. IanW Frank van Lindert wrote: > Jez, > > It took me some time to catch up with the list (because of my own > holiday trip), but your pictures have convinced me: I must go and > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 11:59:23 2009 Received: (qmail 19879 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 09:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 09:59:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C82EDC042 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2639E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6D834AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:59:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B9034AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:59:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so966681fgg.13 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:59:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.31.14 with SMTP id e14mr1959576fge.79.1249293556629; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:59:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8b77f951066f21db Message-ID: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 11:59:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76b4fb86481006886880 There's an annual event in Leuven (Belgium) where many of the restaurants have a pavement spot and sell samplers - usually 1-4 euro for a small plate of food, plus of course, Leuven being in the heart of beer-country, plenty of opportunity for a tipple. There are various entertainments too, such as a barman race (with a tray of drinks), music, ... See more at http://hapjetapje.leuveninscene.be/ (in Dutch, use Google Translate) Anyway here are a few pictures from our stroll around yesterday evening (I missed the barman race): http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jez.cunningham/HapjeTapjeLeuven2009?feat=directlink (If you're upset by out-of-focus foregrounds, look away now. I tried to keep up the senorita quotient, but I had to include a few touristic pictures too) cheers jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 12:01:13 2009 Received: (qmail 1082 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 10:01:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 10:01:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFA0EDC029 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5865BE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A69619DFD8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:01:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A34519DF8B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:01:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so966936fgg.13 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:01:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr2019459fgb.58.1249293661071; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:01:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A76B2CE.1040106@picturepedia.org> References: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> <4A76B2CE.1040106@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:01:00 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3c23c65451af6736 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908030301o7299c346y176fb8e9ba6219a8@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Photos from vacation in Canada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 12:01:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76b569299801234514069 Sorry, can't say. But Niagara town (thankfully a street or two away from the Falls) is a haven for neon and tackiness, and I've no doubt Ripley or someone has a museum of stuff like that! Jez On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, SwissPace wrote: > I am also trying to sort through the list mail but this mail from Frank > prompted me to look at the gallery, lovely shots but I am intrigued to > know if the museum of barrels is still there, i was amazed at the > courage and in some cases stupidity of those adventurers. > > IanW > > Frank van Lindert wrote: > > Jez, > > > > It took me some time to catch up with the list (because of my own > > holiday trip), but your pictures have convinced me: I must go and > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 12:44:54 2009 Received: (qmail 28947 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 10:44:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 10:44:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C736E182B5 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1D0E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DD119E137 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D61E19E12E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:44:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 03:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n73Aii1S007187 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:44:44 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <5788C860BBEA45C3B24D9E94D63C10FA@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:42:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 12:44:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76bfa6231911946193717 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Swale" > > In my opinion, the resolution of the full-size version leaves a lot to be > desired. It is plain fuzzy. > > What do you think? > You need a scanned image of similar size to compare, I'm not sure if this is really bad at original pixel size. On the other hand the AA filter on Olympus digital is stronger than the others. I don't have landscape but here is a cityscape at 10MP with 40D, I don't think it is easy to get the same details with film: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0955.JPG No sharpen applied. > Incidentally, following up on what Moose wrote about some of my other > images of which he discovered (don't know how) that I had been using a > Custom WB setting. Not quite so, it was a pre-set setting, but not a good > one. I think I had made my best guess for a reason that escapes my > memory now as I don't know why I altered it in the first place. Didn't > have the > manual with me, did I? > > Anyway, several potential good images were rendered useless as a result of > that unfortunate oversight. Some colours are just SO wrong, and there's no > fixing them. > That's why I only shot RAW, correct color by adjusting the color temp. is much easier than RGB curves. C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 13:17:14 2009 Received: (qmail 10295 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 11:17:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 11:17:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3488DE1817A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED96E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4084134AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD9D34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:49638 helo=ians-mac-pro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MXvXQ-0001QN-I2 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4A76C72D.2010204@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:17:01 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9f07ac840907280811l2c5ed9adw400a45da46d2f7f5@mail.gmail.com> <4A76B2CE.1040106@picturepedia.org> <9f07ac840908030301o7299c346y176fb8e9ba6219a8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908030301o7299c346y176fb8e9ba6219a8@mail.gmail.com> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Photos from vacation in Canada X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 13:17:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76c73a216641413256596 I will see if I can find time to search through my old photos, I have some of the falls and museum taken in the early 80's (with OM equipment of course). There were all sorts of barrels some metal (often fatal) some rubber, I seem to remember most fatalities being because they ot stuck under the falls for several hours. Jez Cunningham wrote: > Sorry, can't say. But Niagara town (thankfully a street or two away from > the Falls) is a haven for neon and tackiness, and I've no doubt Ripley or > someone has a museum of stuff like that! > Jez > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 13:27:46 2009 Received: (qmail 18150 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 11:27:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 11:27:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFB5E181AE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C30E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D32F19E2AC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:27:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A0D19E28D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:27:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2549426fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:27:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.121.131 with SMTP id h3mr8160733bkr.172.1249298856341; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:27:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:27:35 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 13:27:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76c9b2258392439112457 Hello Brian, did you take this image from a tripod? If so, I see in the EXIF that the IS was on. That might be the cause of the fuzzyness. WB was at 5500=B0 K by the way. Noise filter was on Standard, I would set it to OFF for low ISO images, the noise filter contributes to less sharpness as well (actually, it is always off with my E-3). Further I see the focussing distance is 9.45 meters, a little bit short to get all in focus at f 5. For landscape I use manual focus and focus through liveview (10x) mostly. Otherwise a very fine image, and I agree with C.H. to take images in RAW, especially if the images are not intended as snapshots. Iwert 2009/8/3 Brian Swale : > Hi all, > > Sorry this is so late ... > > Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for > landscapes. The top two links at > http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm > > The top link is a resizing of a 3648 x 2736 5.64 MB E-3 image that has be= en > mildly sharpened (3) in fast stone. Camera tripod mounted, lens Oly DZ 14= ~ > 54mm lens @20mm. Don't remember if I used time delay; might have. > > Link second from top is what I got by clicking on the above image in Fast= -- > Stone to yield a full-size image, and pressing the button, then opening Irfanview, and clicking on then saving > as the name I had previously stored in virtual memory. > > In my opinion, the resolution of the full-size version leaves a lot to be > desired. It is plain fuzzy. > > What do you think? > > Incidentally, following up on what Moose wrote about some of my other > images of which he discovered (don't know how) that I had been using a > Custom WB setting. Not quite so, it was a pre-set setting, but not a good > one. I think I had made my best guess for a reason that escapes my > memory now as I don't know why I altered it in the first place. Didn't ha= ve the > manual with me, did I? > > Anyway, several potential good images were rendered useless as a result of > that unfortunate oversight. Some colours are just SO wrong, and there's no > fixing them. > > Cheers > > Brian Swale. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 13:32:11 2009 Received: (qmail 1057 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 11:32:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 11:32:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD51E18061 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FA4E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CE434AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB7E34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:32:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32150 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 11:32:00 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 13:32:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76cabb47381357919056 George, if I ignore anything, I'll choose to ignore what you said to me. Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > I am sorry but why are you helping this guy by pointing out some potentially > valuable items? > > Here are the facts: 1) You don't know him, 2) He is getting rid of Olympus > stuff instead of keeping them/using them, so he clearly has no appreciation, > only monetary expectations, 3) He is asking a crazy amount of money. > > I would not help him by pointing out what has value and what has not... Let > him figure it out for himself. > > " I think it would be a great for a photographer who is starting out and > needs some basic, efficient film equipment!" > > At $950???? > > Ignoring him will be the right thing to do. > > Or, if you can snap the valuable telescopic extension for $25 and let him > try to sell the rest for $925, that would be nice too. > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 13:44:26 2009 Received: (qmail 13337 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 11:44:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 11:44:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B578E18236 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 04:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FE7E240BE for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 13:44:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76cd9a229541879814018 I added another one for you to keep you going until you visit again ;-) Chris Barker wrote: > germanic peoples, the latter because I should like to visit such a > pasture again. > > The End of Week marker is a good idea, by the way. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 13:50:03 2009 Received: (qmail 24546 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 11:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 11:50:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6809E18229 for ; 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(VPS 090802-0, 08/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 13:50:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76ceeb274915683411216 On resolution of the full size image I think there's no way we can judge it from the small images you've presented and the unknown (to me at least) camera JPEG and Fast Stone/IrfanView pre-processing which has been applied. That and the fact that you have lost some images to incorrect white balance settings should lead you to begin experimenting with raw. Chuck Norcutt Brian Swale wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry this is so late ... > > Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for > landscapes. The top two links at > http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm > > The top link is a resizing of a 3648 x 2736 5.64 MB E-3 image that has been > mildly sharpened (3) in fast stone. Camera tripod mounted, lens Oly DZ 14 ~ > 54mm lens @20mm. Don't remember if I used time delay; might have. > > Link second from top is what I got by clicking on the above image in Fast-- > Stone to yield a full-size image, and pressing the button, then opening Irfanview, and clicking on then saving > as the name I had previously stored in virtual memory. > > In my opinion, the resolution of the full-size version leaves a lot to be > desired. It is plain fuzzy. > > What do you think? > > Incidentally, following up on what Moose wrote about some of my other > images of which he discovered (don't know how) that I had been using a > Custom WB setting. Not quite so, it was a pre-set setting, but not a good > one. I think I had made my best guess for a reason that escapes my > memory now as I don't know why I altered it in the first place. Didn't have the > manual with me, did I? > > Anyway, several potential good images were rendered useless as a result of > that unfortunate oversight. Some colours are just SO wrong, and there's no > fixing them. > > Cheers > > Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:04:24 2009 Received: (qmail 4736 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:04:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:04:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF2CE1817A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF83E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F68519E3B0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:04:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D0D19E3A8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:04:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22427 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 12:04:15 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090802-0, 08/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:04:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76d248254191612113968 We might also mention that, if you're looking at the full size image at 1:1 on the screen it will certainly look a little fuzzy. If you want to see what it will look like on a print you should first resize to the resolution desired for the print and then view and sharpen what you see on-screen at 25-30% magnification. For example, if the desired print was an 8x10 at 300 dpi, you would first crop the 4:3 ratio image to 5:4 and then resize the cropped image to 3000x2400. After resizing, change the viewing magnification to about 30% and sharpen until the on-screen image looks just slightly crunchy. The slight crunchiness will disappear on an inkjet print as the ink spreads slightly after hitting the paper. But for viewing on-screen only you need to resize to the intended screen resolution first and then sharpen to what looks good on-screen. Chuck Norcutt C.H.Ling wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Swale" > >> In my opinion, the resolution of the full-size version leaves a lot to be >> desired. It is plain fuzzy. >> >> What do you think? >> > > You need a scanned image of similar size to compare, I'm not sure if this is > really bad at original pixel size. On the other hand the AA filter on > Olympus digital is stronger than the others. I don't have landscape but here > is a cityscape at 10MP with 40D, I don't think it is easy to get the same > details with film: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_0955.JPG > > No sharpen applied. > >> Incidentally, following up on what Moose wrote about some of my other >> images of which he discovered (don't know how) that I had been using a >> Custom WB setting. Not quite so, it was a pre-set setting, but not a good >> one. I think I had made my best guess for a reason that escapes my >> memory now as I don't know why I altered it in the first place. Didn't >> have the >> manual with me, did I? >> >> Anyway, several potential good images were rendered useless as a result of >> that unfortunate oversight. Some colours are just SO wrong, and there's no >> fixing them. >> > > That's why I only shot RAW, correct color by adjusting the color temp. is > much easier than RGB curves. > > C.H.Ling > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:06:41 2009 Received: (qmail 561 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:06:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:06:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068B7E18067 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA25E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1353134AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050034AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so457667fga.13 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:06:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.87.1 with SMTP id k1mr1973448fgb.74.1249301188181; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:06:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8E821C2691324D068480E9524DB9926B@wiliam> References: <8E821C2691324D068480E9524DB9926B@wiliam> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:06:28 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d63e025630d80559 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908030506k922b375l3d2c122f2b222e25@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:06:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76d2d199571258626592 OMG, I hope she doesn't monitor your internet usage :-) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > Good point Chris, > > Although, as I am married to a woman who is 6.5 years older than I, I > guess I am not fussy already ;-) > > Wiliam > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] > > Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 20:46 > > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 01/08/2009: why Lluis likes Sitges > > > > > > :-) > > > > And as you get older, Wiliam, you will find yourself getting less > > fussy where women are concerned ... :-) > > > > Chris > > > > On 2 Aug 2009, at 10:42, Wiliam Wagenaar wrote: > > > > > Argh Chris, > > > > > > Must you spoil everything? It took a while before I could find > > > anything > > > bad in Nathans photo's and now you make that into something positive > > > also. Just can't stand it, spoiled my day! > > > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.37/2273 - Release > > Date: 08/02/09 05:56:00 > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:16:14 2009 Received: (qmail 13605 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:16:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437F4E1822B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30FFE240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9647834AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:16:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B187134AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:16:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (julian_davies@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.65]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24592 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2009 12:16:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO clapham) (julian_davies@86.135.10.55 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:16:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HA89WuGswBBR5ltb.Gh6hwVJXM5BWV2vpoA6Yr.Uz9iAPTyNR4ftWLE- X-YMail-OSG: Mz1RSc4VM1mjTDuEecGsZOE_CSuCtCDC6NX0sqAU4H0.Uz3xcaQqK.p.PtJlPx7CcB5.ExgWWXFtxlwWvhiQpBqAOSN.Q3fA2v_oUN_Xu_6ZFqlVmTKcnKyHdKbVaqGmvKFIjgGp4sL9dBTgus49NrRlhaLaKUKsz2zQGnYYNdu5XuMmC1xrj0Tm64Unvo3Box7ROBmCsTyaAUG_AHmIegg7DF3rHrwP1_Eu5nF_Na0vZCYLTGbfn1KgjqsTaEcgWDNX9HZM.7PJA42plVFoWnn0Kuti0kHCPcZ3LAgkjQDb6jDAQgiHpzO62yINGPpqxRwavbfbTmujlLQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <33D3AEF028A8418FBFDD65DBEBECA2EB@clapham> From: "Julian Davies" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <49DC6FEEB2D54A6EA681275B9D1BD7CF@home> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:16:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:16:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76d50e130021879814018 Actually no OM has an electric shutter release... Release of the first curtain is always triggered mechanically by the completion of the mirror raising action (which is itself always mechanically triggered from the shutter release button). On the fully electronic cameras, there is an electric interrupter between these two actions which provides the self timer function (which is why they "pre-fire" the mirror). The cameras with "electronic" shutters have electronic control only of the second curtain release, not the first curtain. The problem with using the bottom release bar to fire will be that there is no guarantee that two winders or motor drives will have the same delay between the shorting of their release buttons and the moving of the release pin, and there is also no guarantee that the release point of bottom release bar will be the same for any two cameras. Therefore although it is a perfectly good way of roughly synchronising two cameras, it will not be necessarily any more accurate than a DCR, and of course cannot be adjusted like a DCR can. Regards, Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "DrT (George Themelis)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release >> The OM-1 has a mechanical linkage in the bottom of the camera that >> connects >> to a mechanical pin on the winder. > > OK, I got it! Cool! I was able to trigger the cameras with a little > screwdriver from the bottom. > >> Most manufacturers had a different winder or drive for >> each camera model, but all of olympus's winders/motors work on all >> bodies! > > Yes, it is clever. Someone might claim that it is limited at the same > time: > Cameras with an electrical shutter (OM2, OM4) can be triggered by just > making an electric contact (sorting two wires). This is not an option > with > Olympus. If one does not want to use the winder or motor drive (which adds > weight), he is forced to use a mechanical cable release, because there is > no > provision for an electrical cable release (just two wires shorted by a > switch). The mechanical cable release could shake the camera (at least in > theory, in high magnification or astrophotography applications). > > I am curious to test how accurate the camera synchronization is, based on > this mechanical triggering. > > George > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:26:51 2009 Received: (qmail 11512 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:26:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:26:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23971EDC007 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B057E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C0634AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:26:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF5034AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:26:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6814 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 12:26:42 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 12:26:42 -0000 Message-ID: <4A76D781.7020401@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:26:41 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090802-0, 08/02/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:26:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76d78b56585368819438 Some good observations except that for a 4/3 sensor at 20mm and f/5 the = hyperfocal distance is only about 5 meters. If the camera was focused = at 9.45 meters infinity should certainly be in focus. If the camera had = been focused at 5 meters he's have gained another 0.7 meters of = foreground. SLRGear test results on the 14-54 show that best = performance at 18-24mm is at f/4 to f/8 and that there is little reason = to choose one over the other although vignetting is a little worse at = f/4 than f/5.6. In summary, the aperture and focusing distance are at = optimal settings. Dr. Focus iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Hello Brian, > = > did you take this image from a tripod? If so, I see in the EXIF that > the IS was on. > That might be the cause of the fuzzyness. WB was at 5500=B0 K by the way. > Noise filter was on Standard, I would set it to OFF for low ISO > images, the noise filter contributes to less sharpness as well > (actually, it is always off with my E-3). > Further I see the focussing distance is 9.45 meters, a little bit > short to get all in focus at f 5. > = > For landscape I use manual focus and focus through liveview (10x) mostly. > = > Otherwise a very fine image, and I agree with C.H. to take images in > RAW, especially if the > images are not intended as snapshots. > = > Iwert > = > 2009/8/3 Brian Swale : >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry this is so late ... >> >> Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for >> landscapes. The top two links at >> http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm >> >> The top link is a resizing of a 3648 x 2736 5.64 MB E-3 image that has b= een >> mildly sharpened (3) in fast stone. Camera tripod mounted, lens Oly DZ 1= 4 ~ >> 54mm lens @20mm. Don't remember if I used time delay; might have. >> >> Link second from top is what I got by clicking on the above image in Fas= t-- >> Stone to yield a full-size image, and pressing the > button, then opening Irfanview, and clicking on then savi= ng >> as the name I had previously stored in virtual memory. >> >> In my opinion, the resolution of the full-size version leaves a lot to be >> desired. It is plain fuzzy. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Incidentally, following up on what Moose wrote about some of my other >> images of which he discovered (don't know how) that I had been using a >> Custom WB setting. Not quite so, it was a pre-set setting, but not a good >> one. I think I had made my best guess for a reason that escapes my >> memory now as I don't know why I altered it in the first place. Didn't h= ave the >> manual with me, did I? >> >> Anyway, several potential good images were rendered useless as a result = of >> that unfortunate oversight. Some colours are just SO wrong, and there's = no >> fixing them. >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian Swale. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:56:05 2009 Received: (qmail 22526 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:56:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3AEE18065 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C64E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335AF34AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1199D34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090803125556H0600kd9ppe>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:55:56 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <5C0AF5210BFA426BB754127F001504C3@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com><7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A76CAB0.3060601@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:55:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:56:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76de65186421950411718 > George, if I ignore anything, I'll choose to ignore what you said to me. Thanks Chuck, I am glad you didn't :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:56:05 2009 Received: (qmail 24129 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:56:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A216E18178 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D0EE240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A0134AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A731A34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNS003SBX92O1GD@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:55:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76DE5B.5020903@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:55:55 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:56:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76de6584761234514069 YES, another convert...welcome. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Hi guys! > > I just discovered Olympus OM! > > I have been into photography (more specifically, 3d-stereo photography) for > 21 years. I started with the Minolta MD system in 1984. I was happy and had > accumulated a lot of equipment. Then, I got a stereo camera that used > Pentax lenses, so I decided to switch to the Pentax system. Last year I got > a Contax/Yashica stereo camera, so I got interested in these cameras. Then, > someone gave me a Nikon N2000 camera to sell in ebay and I liked the camera, > so I became a bit of a Nikon fanatic. > > FINALLY, a couple of weeks ago I bought an Olympus OM1 lot, sold in an > Astrophotography forum. I instantly fell in love with the system! So, I > decided to sell ALL other camera equipment and concentrate on the Olympus OM > system. > > I like the simplicity and quality of the system. With the Nikon I was lost. > Take any area of photography and there are numerous of Nikon > equipment/accessories. For example, macro bellows. I could never get it > straight how many different Nikon bellows models are around. Compare this > with Olympus: Only one! I love this simplicity. In very short time one can > collect all the equipment he or she needs. > > I am happy again! :) > > George in Ohio > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:57:49 2009 Received: (qmail 560 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:57:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:57:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71D5E18069 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515C4E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F8834AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2599334AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [207.115.11.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090803125557H0600kd9pqe>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:55:57 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <43354F55BFEB40CC8EA824868BF6C0AC@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:55:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:57:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76decd62821879814018 > The biggest reason for me is that I just can't justify that large of a one > time expense of a good high quality system. Last week we were in Orlando FL for a vacation, for 6 days. During these 6 days, I shot 32 rolls of slide film. The cost of buying, processing, and mounting these slides, came to about $600 (only the cost of processing, with my VIP discount, is $303). So, the initial expense is not an issue for me. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 14:58:57 2009 Received: (qmail 12549 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 12:58:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 12:58:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B694E18063 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62230E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587E334AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:58:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD84334AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 05:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNS00MTYXDCLPK4@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:58:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76DEF5.1060701@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:58:29 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <971424852.6268831249152327294.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] New member says "hi" X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 14:58:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76df1117681006886880 If looking for reliable OM bodies, I'd avoid OM-10, OM-G, OM-88, OM-77. JMO ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Be warned, George, it never ends. > > I don't understand why... I go to the "Unofficial Olympus OM Sales > Information File" (http://olympus.dementia.org/esif/om-sif.htm) and I click > in every section and see a very limited number of products. This is such a > slim and neat list of equipment. Most of these products can be found for > sale in ebay (or KEH or other major photo dealers) right now. If one has > enough money, he can buy just about everything in a very short time. What > takes time is looking for bargains or very unusual items. > > Try researching an equivalent Nikon line of products and your head will spin > :) > > In 3 short weeks I have accumulated the following: > > Camera bodies: > ---------------- > - Olympus OM1 > - Olympus OM1n > - Olympus OM2n > - Olympus OM10 x 2 > > Lenses: > ------- > - 50mm 1.8 x 2 > - 50mm f3.5 Macro > - 200mm f4 > - 300mm f4.5 > - 21mm f3.5 - I decided to sell this lens... to wide for my taste: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370237984687 > - Some off brand lenses that I will sell soon > > Accessories: > ------------ > - 2 x Winder 2 > - Several focusing screens > - 2 x Varimagni > - 7mm extension tube > - Bellows > - Slide Copier > - Double Cable release > - Carl Shipman's book > - T20 flash > - T30 flash > > My immediate needs are: > > - Pair of 100mm lenses - I need pairs of lenses for 3d > - Another 200mm > - Another 300mm > - 500mm lens > > I think in a couple of months I will be done with what I need. I decided I > do not care much for the OM3 or OM4. The OM1 and OM2 bodies are fine for > what I do. > > To finance these and future purchases, I am now selling my Nikon collection. > I have a 300mm lens very similar to the Olympus, and the Nikon 500mm lens > (that can finance the 500mm Olympus lens) and numerous other bodies, lenses, > accessories. I cannot believe I wasted all this time with Nikon :) > >> I've never made it past step three in the twelve step Zuikohaulic program. >> Perhaps you'll do better 8^) > > Is there a link to the complete 12 step program? I might need it at some > point... :) > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 15:10:36 2009 Received: (qmail 3425 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 13:10:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 13:10:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED568E1806F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E767E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFA334AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8876334AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:10:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n73DASNt020407 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:10:28 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <26F3A2F6122B4281B848D6B80DEC987D@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <43354F55BFEB40CC8EA824868BF6C0AC@home> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:10:18 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 15:10:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76e1cc288851560218263 It is really expensive even for your discounted price, here in Hong Kong it is $3.2/roll for D-only by a pro-lab. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "DrT (George Themelis)" >> The biggest reason for me is that I just can't justify that large of a >> one >> time expense of a good high quality system. > > Last week we were in Orlando FL for a vacation, for 6 days. During these 6 > days, I shot 32 rolls of slide film. The cost of buying, processing, and > mounting these slides, came to about $600 (only the cost of processing, > with > my VIP discount, is $303). So, the initial expense is not an issue for > me. > > George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 15:32:47 2009 Received: (qmail 26791 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 13:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 13:32:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF75E182B3 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64676E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1934AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:32:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3373D34AC00B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:32:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090803133238H030024ptue>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:32:42 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <43354F55BFEB40CC8EA824868BF6C0AC@home> <26F3A2F6122B4281B848D6B80DEC987D@MAIN> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:28:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 15:32:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76e6ff298931258626592 > It is really expensive even for your discounted price, here in Hong Kong > it is $3.2/roll for D-only by a pro-lab. Yes, it is expensive and rather typical for the US.... The regular price is $10.99 for E6 processing (36exp), plus 7.75% tax. I get 20% discount. You can find cheaper processing if you shop around, but this is may be the only place left in my area where I can drop the film and pick it up the same day if I am in a hurry. I have to give them my business to keep them open. When I was in Greece in 2004 for the Olympics (100 rolls in 2 weeks), a professional lab in Athens charged a lot less for processing (3 or 4 Euros). On the other hand, buying film was a lot more expensive in Athens than the US. But when I visited again in 2007, the pro-lab was closed, gone for ever. Eventually, slide film processing will only be available my mail. Buying slide film at reasonable prices has become a mail order thing in the US. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 15:51:02 2009 Received: (qmail 17348 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 13:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 13:51:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4442AE181B2 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46680E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376C919E734 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C1019E737 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:50:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so4164795ywh.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:50:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.106.12 with SMTP id e12mr7045404anc.89.1249307457048; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:50:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:50:57 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908030650j3c2db3bfl9b963b2ab43b1885@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 15:51:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76eb46126801006886880 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, SwissPace wrote: > I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at work > I hope I can catch up this week. > > We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the > mountains =A0and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the > Hammetschwandlift =A0a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were sure > busy a hundred years ago. > > I love "climbing rope" and "Norwegian candle." Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 15:51:54 2009 Received: (qmail 504 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 13:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 13:51:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8959E180B8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB61E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF35319E720 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9023819E736 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNS0066XZTB6LS4@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:51:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76EB54.6070206@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:51:16 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Pen FT light meter callibration? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 15:51:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76eb7a199376789618724 Some FT boards have a trimmer pot, others are adjusted by: 1) note the iso you are shooting at, also note meter error. 2) lift and turn shutter speed / iso knob until meter reading is correct. 3) after peeling leather up on iso knob side, loosen top screw most of the way. Loosen bottom screw a little. 4) GENTLY lift top edge of shutter speed dial / iso knob plate assembly so it separates from body and inner gear which connects it to the meter. While knob is separated from this gear, Gently lift and turn iso back to the original setting you were using. 6) re-seat shutter speed / iso knob assembly, gently rock knob back and forth to be sure gear has re-seated. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > hello, > > i there anyone on the list who can "enlighten" me on the callibration > of a pen FT light meter? > > The meter seems to work well but is 2 stops off... > > Best regards, > > Iwert. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 15:55:08 2009 Received: (qmail 29818 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 13:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 13:55:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93682E180B8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACBDE240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEE034AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5F234AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNS00H1VZZLPH60@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:54:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76EC37.1010502@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:55:03 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A75BEE7.8080306@chucknorcutt.com> In-reply-to: <4A75BEE7.8080306@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Pen FT light meter callibration? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 15:55:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76ec3c275595034211378 Responding to the question at that link, if meter is good in sunlight but 4 stops off at others, the CDS cell is bad. No adjustment will fix that. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Maybe what you need is here: > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> hello, >> >> i there anyone on the list who can "enlighten" me on the callibration >> of a pen FT light meter? >> >> The meter seems to work well but is 2 stops off... >> >> Best regards, >> >> Iwert. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 15:55:53 2009 Received: (qmail 18157 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 13:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 13:55:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912B3E18068 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED05E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C6034AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4083A34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 06:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1001054fgg.13 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:55:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.67 with SMTP id 3mr643367hbu.63.1249307718650; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:55:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:55:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f27e9ebacee99296 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 15:55:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76ec6982433900897491 > > I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with > their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? > Very much so! In the past two weeks, I shot enough film to have bought a new digital E-brick. OM-3Ti, OM-4T and and OM-2S pressed very hard into action. I love shooting film and find that I am doing far better compositions with film than digital. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 16:28:45 2009 Received: (qmail 30771 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 14:28:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 14:28:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38495EDC00C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040B8E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB7D34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:28:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52A134AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1007232fgg.13 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:28:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.66.20 with SMTP id o20mr2119889fga.15.1249309716471; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:28:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908030650j3c2db3bfl9b963b2ab43b1885@mail.gmail.com> References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0908030650j3c2db3bfl9b963b2ab43b1885@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:28:36 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 89bc489f903f9e31 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908030728p56c374cbgd850757bbe40f1a3@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 16:28:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76f41d228105368819438 Yup, Climbing Rope for me - I love the low key effect I don't 'see' Norwegian Candle :-) Jez On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, SwissPace wrote: > > I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at work > > I hope I can catch up this week. > > > > We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the > > mountains and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the > > Hammetschwandlift a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were sure > > busy a hundred years ago. > > > > > > > I love "climbing rope" and "Norwegian candle." > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 16:29:45 2009 Received: (qmail 5216 invoked by uid 0); 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Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2645784fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:29:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.72 with SMTP id h8mr282931bkg.30.1249309776787; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:29:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A76EB54.6070206@verizon.net> References: <4A76EB54.6070206@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:29:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Pen FT light meter callibration? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 16:29:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76f459104715034211378 Many thanks John, I'll try this tonight! all the best, Iwert 2009/8/3 John Hermanson : > Some FT boards have a trimmer pot, others are adjusted by: > > 1) note the iso you are shooting at, also note meter error. > 2) lift and turn shutter speed / iso knob until meter reading is correct. > 3) after peeling leather up on iso knob side, loosen top screw most of > the way. Loosen bottom screw a little. > 4) GENTLY lift top edge of shutter speed dial / iso knob plate assembly > so it separates from body and inner gear which connects it to the meter. > =A0While knob is separated from this gear, Gently lift and turn iso back > to the original setting you were using. > 6) re-seat shutter speed / iso knob assembly, gently rock knob back and > forth to be sure gear has re-seated. > > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson =A0| =A0 CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 =A0| =A0www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> hello, >> >> i there anyone on the list who can "enlighten" me on the callibration >> of a pen FT light meter? >> >> The meter seems to work well but is 2 stops off... >> >> Best regards, >> >> Iwert. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 16:30:33 2009 Received: (qmail 11066 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 14:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 14:30:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE650EDC039 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C823E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2DD19E88D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:30:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B4319E881 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:30:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2009 10:30:14 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:30:14 -0400 Message-Id: <4A76BC2E.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:30:07 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 16:30:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76f489188019752976205 I gave up film years ago and probably never will shoot film again. I have thought many times about just donating my OM-2s and other legacy equipment (closet queen stuff). But I just have too many found memories and those cameras fit so well into my hand and I spent so much money on the system when I didn't have money to spend and got Hell from my wife every time I did (got a new wife, but still have the OM's. A great trade off.). Aside, does any one think that Olympus will develop a bellows for the E system? >>> Ken Norton 8/3/2009 9:55 AM >>> > > I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with > their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? > Very much so! In the past two weeks, I shot enough film to have bought a new digital E-brick. OM-3Ti, OM-4T and and OM-2S pressed very hard into action. I love shooting film and find that I am doing far better compositions with film than digital. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 16:40:10 2009 Received: (qmail 2235 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 14:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 14:40:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F6BEDC02B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62F8E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA98334AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BD434AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 07:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNT00KVG22OHMD8@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:40:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76F6C5.5050709@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:40:05 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 16:40:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76f6ca269551612113968 "It's all been maintained" except for the jammed 1N. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html AS wrote: > > Rochester Craigslist: > > http://rochester.craigslist.org/pho/1302454980.html > > $950....ouch!! > > No connection, etc. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:10:04 2009 Received: (qmail 31675 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:10:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:10:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249D9EDC019 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BA7E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A2F34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC1134AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNT003XX3E7O1AE@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:08:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76FD74.3030204@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:08:36 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com><7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A76CAB0.3060601@chucknorcutt.com> <5C0AF5210BFA426BB754127F001504C3@home> In-reply-to: <5C0AF5210BFA426BB754127F001504C3@home> Subject: Re: [OM] OM Lot. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:10:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76fdcc19881136683642 oben? kidding! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> George, if I ignore anything, I'll choose to ignore what you said to me. > > Thanks Chuck, I am glad you didn't :) > > George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:10:35 2009 Received: (qmail 31628 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:10:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403F4EDC026 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A33E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2B19E9E5 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD59719E9DA for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:10:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.153]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNT00LZO3H63J07@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:10:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A76FDDF.3040502@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:10:23 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A76EB54.6070206@verizon.net> In-reply-to: <4A76EB54.6070206@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Pen FT light meter callibration? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:10:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76fdeb104229730998309 You could also remove the resistor between board and galvanometer and replace with the appropriate potentiometer. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html John Hermanson wrote: > Some FT boards have a trimmer pot, others are adjusted by: > > 1) note the iso you are shooting at, also note meter error. > 2) lift and turn shutter speed / iso knob until meter reading is correct. > 3) after peeling leather up on iso knob side, loosen top screw most of > the way. Loosen bottom screw a little. > 4) GENTLY lift top edge of shutter speed dial / iso knob plate assembly > so it separates from body and inner gear which connects it to the meter. > While knob is separated from this gear, Gently lift and turn iso back > to the original setting you were using. > 6) re-seat shutter speed / iso knob assembly, gently rock knob back and > forth to be sure gear has re-seated. > > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> hello, >> >> i there anyone on the list who can "enlighten" me on the callibration >> of a pen FT light meter? >> >> The meter seems to work well but is 2 stops off... >> >> Best regards, >> >> Iwert. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:15:20 2009 Received: (qmail 11170 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:15:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:15:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E75EDC006 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C29E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C363134AC004 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:15:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420BE34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:15:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14245 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 15:15:14 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 15:15:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4A76FF01.4030008@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:15:13 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <9e908c1f0908030650j3c2db3bfl9b963b2ab43b1885@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908030650j3c2db3bfl9b963b2ab43b1885@mail.gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090803-0, 08/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:15:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a76ff0823281744846740 I agree on "climbing rope" and "spot the Heidi". They look good even on the Krappy-Kolor laptop. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:49 AM, SwissPace wrote: >> I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at work >> I hope I can catch up this week. >> >> We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the >> mountains and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the >> Hammetschwandlift a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were sure >> busy a hundred years ago. >> >> > > I love "climbing rope" and "Norwegian candle." > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:21:09 2009 Received: (qmail 13949 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:21:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:21:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859F8E18060 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67ACE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16A219EA65 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305DC19EA6A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19411 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 15:21:03 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 15:21:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4A77005E.2060006@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:21:02 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090803-0, 08/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:21:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a770065326971342116753 I'm not wishing for any film but I do wish I'd brought along several OM Zuikos on this trip. The 85/2 would have been useful this morning. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with >> their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? >> > > > Very much so! In the past two weeks, I shot enough film to have bought a > new digital E-brick. > > OM-3Ti, OM-4T and and OM-2S pressed very hard into action. > > I love shooting film and find that I am doing far better compositions with > film than digital. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:23:50 2009 Received: (qmail 21954 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:23:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:23:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68380E1822B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A65EE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CD019E920 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479B019EA21 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21791 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 15:23:42 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 15:23:42 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7700FD.5000500@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:23:41 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A76BC2E.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> In-Reply-To: <4A76BC2E.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090803-0, 08/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:23:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77010689675034211378 Interesting. I'd never thought about that before but, for the Olympus heritage, it's a rather glaring omission. Chuck Norcutt Clay Nichols wrote: > > Aside, does any one think that Olympus will develop a bellows for the > E system? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:26:14 2009 Received: (qmail 13563 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:26:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:26:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BABE1806F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0E0E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AD334AC004 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:26:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF95134AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:26:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2679936fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.178.195 with SMTP id a3mr655432hbg.39.1249313168552; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:26:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b5364c416f70d253 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:26:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77019699032439112457 > > but I must use the same defence as Ken would I don't live in a > Queen's English speaking country :-) and my standards have indeed > dropped partly because of this and partly due to lack of time because of > work an family. I will however try and improve. > I believe in the concept that our language is constantly evolving. After all, we don't speak or write in 17th Century English, do we? Not even in London. Since it is evolving, my spelling "errors" are actually precursors of the evolving "New English". You just need to get with the program, folks. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 17:47:33 2009 Received: (qmail 18503 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 15:47:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 15:47:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA235E18067 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A9FE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FEB19EB13 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:47:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4858519EB2B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.2]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 08:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:53461 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay01.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.41]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MXzkt-0006Sp-5p (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:47:20 +0000 Message-Id: <9B7561B0-4B9E-4A42-9C3F-DDA71ACD8C09@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <43354F55BFEB40CC8EA824868BF6C0AC@home> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:47:18 +0200 References: <43354F55BFEB40CC8EA824868BF6C0AC@home> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 17:47:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a770695276572013633067 I didn't know there were enough interesting things in Orlando to shoot 32 rolls of slide film...(yes, I lived in Florida for 6 years and have suffered many trips to Orlando during that time). Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:55 PM, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> The biggest reason for me is that I just can't justify that large >> of a one >> time expense of a good high quality system. > > Last week we were in Orlando FL for a vacation, for 6 days. During > these 6 > days, I shot 32 rolls of slide film. The cost of buying, > processing, and > mounting these slides, came to about $600 (only the cost of > processing, with > my VIP discount, is $303). So, the initial expense is not an issue > for me. > > George > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 18:17:50 2009 Received: (qmail 14492 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 16:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 16:17:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBD7EDC02B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0AFE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A772B34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A4734AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090803161743H05002j4p0e>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:17:44 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <5D40BA1FE55248D293FB21377F0441D1@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <43354F55BFEB40CC8EA824868BF6C0AC@home> <9B7561B0-4B9E-4A42-9C3F-DDA71ACD8C09@frozenlight.eu> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:17:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 18:17:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a770dae158831612113968 >I didn't know there were enough interesting things in Orlando to shoot > 32 rolls of slide film...(yes, I lived in Florida for 6 years and have > suffered many trips to Orlando during that time). Well, 2 things: 1) I am a stereo photographer. One of my stereo cameras takes 18 stereo pairs (per 36 exp roll), the other (my favorite) takes only 15 pairs. So, in terms of number of pictures, my 32 rolls correspond to something like 14 rolls of regular 2D pictures. 2) It was my first trip to Orlando and I certainly found many things to photograph in stereo. 2/3 of my pictures were taken at the Disney and Universal parks. I am sure I have many award-winning photos in these rolls (I am starting mounting). I am active in two stereo clubs that have competition assignments. Some assignments that come in mind for which I found plenty of material in Orlando: - "People in Costume": Plenty of Disney characters - "Hyperstereo": Many opportunities, starting from the airplane - "Motion": Rides, etc - "Big": Many large items to photograph George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 18:36:02 2009 Received: (qmail 24947 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 16:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 16:36:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CA5E180B7 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62256E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C9934AC00A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:35:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A5734AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:35:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2720308fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.146 with SMTP id m18mr634483hbc.24.1249317356343; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:35:56 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 11e47b3ec5865fb8 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 18:36:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7711f225545368819438 The wind lever in my OM-4T is slipping. Will the film still advance correctly with the motordrive or is it slipping there too? I know, I know, CLA time.... It finally croaked on me during the trip and the OM-2S faithfully jumped right in and took up the slack, so to speak. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 18:50:30 2009 Received: (qmail 26511 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 16:50:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 16:50:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217A5E1822B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E57BE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D51719ED00 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB5619EC96 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so4334867ywh.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.95.15 with SMTP id s15mr8358462anb.88.1249318222922; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:50:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908030950o5a1fd56ejf38ec753e294048a@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 18:50:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a771556239452013633067 On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, DrT (George Themelis) wrot= e: >> Usually people on craigslist price old film cameras as though digital >> never happened... > > Did digital really happen? =A0Someone, please, wake me up! :) > > I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with > their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? > > Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), for personal > photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. > > Nothing in digital compares to the quality and realism of looking at a pa= ir > of sharp stereo slides in a good 3-D viewer. =A0Progress is being made, b= ut I > have not seen anything to convince me to switch to digital stereo > photography.... So, I keep shooting/mounting stereo slides, despite the c= ost > and time required. I guess I'll take the bait, though anything with "vs" in the subject seems likely just to stir the pot. Digital has been happening for me since 1995, when I bought my first film scanner. I shot slides nearly exclusively until 2004, then my experiment with digital source photography began. I kept thinking I was going to continue shooting film a lot, but the batteries mostly died in the bodies as they sat on the shelf. I'm shooting my remaining Kodachrome at the moment in an OM-4 and enjoying it a lot. While I am enjoying it, it does not displace my DSLR. Like most things analog, film photography is being displaced, if not replaced, at a time when it is in full leaf and flower. It has never been better, really. It is extremely good and it is a known quantity. If you like the look of film, whether you process it via a traditional or digital darkroom, you really have no reason to believe that you will somehow come to dislike how it looks. Good is good. If I were doing a lot of color darkroom or enjoyed firing up the slide projector, I would certainly favor shooting film more than I do currently. But I like the E-system a lot. The lenses are excellent, the cameras are exciting to use, and the results speak for themselves. For a manual focus-only system, OM is excellent as far as it goes. My experience with it has greatly enriched my ability to get the most out of the E-system. The reverse is true as well. I can't really choose between them any more than I could choose between one of my parents. And I don't see why I need to. I like them both and both serve my needs, though I expect to put many more exposures through my DSLRs than my OMs. I certainly don't need to dislike digital capture in order to like OM. Digital photography has helped me further my skills in photography in general, and that serves my film photography as well. Furthermore, downstream in the process digital has returned much better results than I was ever able to get in the darkroom, particularly in color photography, and I have more or less been able to match my darkroom BW prints closely and even improved tonalities slightly, though I haven't found a near-archival inkjet paper I like for BW printing. I would definitely agree that the conventional darkroom rules in BW photography. But with color, for me, no way. Life is good. People get restless with one thing or another, and I'm no exception, but life is still good, particularly when there are options. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:06:43 2009 Received: (qmail 28784 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:06:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:06:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCBBE1805C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E343E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A9119ED8E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D419ED85 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n73H6PDx022862 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:06:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c73.5864375c (14502) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:06:24 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:06:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a771923211336107113666 Ken, if I knew the 3Ti was home alone, there might have been a breaking and entering incident discovered upon your return. <{B^) Bill Barber In a message dated 8/3/2009 11:36:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: The wind lever in my OM-4T is slipping. Will the film still advance correctly with the motordrive or is it slipping there too? I know, I know, CLA time.... It finally croaked on me during the trip and the OM-2S faithfully jumped right in and took up the slack, so to speak. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:29:30 2009 Received: (qmail 13216 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:29:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:29:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BD7EDC040 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8D1E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC6519EEB6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B2819EEFE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2749316fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:29:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.157.140 with SMTP id q12mr629202hbc.80.1249320561935; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:29:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:29:21 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3552ac9191cff638 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:29:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a771e7a261633900897491 > > Ken, if I knew the 3Ti was home alone, there might have been a breaking and > entering incident discovered upon your return. <{B^) Bill Barber > LOL, hardly. It was pulling B&W duty. The 4T was equipped with Provia and Velvia. The OM-2S was originally for color-print film, but actually ended up shooting rolls of everything. But there was a reason why we didn't tell anybody where we were at. I wasn't looking forward to getting attacked by the thugs on this. Shoot, we even avoided an entire state because of it. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:40:10 2009 Received: (qmail 15954 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:40:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4402EDC02E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8B7E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAEC34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:40:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76AF34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:40:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a7720e733e; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:39:51 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bc1.564748a4 (14502) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:39:45 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:39:44 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.137 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:40:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7720fa76161413256596 Yes, the state of sanity. I know what two or three weeks on the road with the family is like. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/3/2009 12:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Shoot, we even avoided an entire state because of it. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:46:57 2009 Received: (qmail 28191 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:46:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:46:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20A3EDC010 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2473E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B790319F01D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:46:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBD719F04B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:46:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3289170bwz.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.74 with SMTP id u10mr609495hbf.88.1249321608698; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:46:48 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb4dc8d0d34cbbb7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Battery Redux X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:46:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a772291279221950411718 Well, my experiment in domestic tranquility was a success. I had bought a deep-cycle marine battery and a DC-AC inverter. My wife was able to complete the editing-revisions of her book and wrote two new sections for it. Based on the voltage drop, we used about 60% of the capacity of the battery and this also included a few hours of light-bulb illumination around the campsite. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:49:40 2009 Received: (qmail 2735 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:49:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:49:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F14EDC035 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461CAE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C6D34AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:49:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB75334AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92442C96F3 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:17:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:49:33 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:49:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77233421201006886880 Not yet, Ian. The trumpets will sound tomorrow, vieleicht ... ... and I thought that you would use the living-in-a foreign-country- and-not-practising-my-English excuse :-) (quite reasonably, of course) Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 10:39, SwissPace wrote: > > Thanks for looking Chris and has your new macbook arrived yet? > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:53:44 2009 Received: (qmail 19489 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:53:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:53:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B223FE18068 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F88E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6979034AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206CE34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF688C96F3 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:22:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A76CD8A.6070303@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:53:35 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76CD8A.6070303@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:53:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a772428322581357919056 Thanks, Ian. I can almost smell the air. By the way, SmugMug looks like an excellent gallery system, and it's easy to navigate (using cursory keys on the Mac), but if I view it with CoolIris, the images get re-shaped to fill a square, making the aspect ratio wrong. Has anyone else found this? Perhaps I should complain to CoolIris ... Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 12:44, SwissPace wrote: > I added another one for you > > > > > to keep you going until you visit again ;-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:55:04 2009 Received: (qmail 9874 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:55:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:55:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A33E180CD for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1597E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18EE19F0F7 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:54:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E50519F0B8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:54:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BCBC96C9 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:23:22 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:54:57 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:55:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77247863887801554290 :-) I do hope that we meet one day, Ken ... Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 16:26, Ken Norton wrote: > > Since it is evolving, my spelling "errors" are actually precursors > of the > evolving "New English". You just need to get with the program, folks. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:56:13 2009 Received: (qmail 26643 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:56:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:56:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD248E18066 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B328E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDD334AC004 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC2734AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:56:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2763518fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.72 with SMTP id h8mr352868hbc.128.1249322165692; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:56:05 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eae985c7a013e207 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:56:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7724bd214631946193717 > > Yes, the state of sanity. I know what two or three weeks on the road with > the family is like. Bill Barber > My family is avoiding me now... BTW, I'll write on various items for a while, but I have to say that one of the most spectacular places to camp in Colorado is Molas Lake. Beware, though, even in the deep in summer, it is bloody cold at night and the air at 10850 feet can be difficult for some people. We ended up staying only one night because of breathing conditions (I was fine, my wife not), but I maximized the stay there with nearly non-stop photography. It's just south of Silverton and has the perfect, classic views of the Grenadier Mountains. Absolutely lovely! When I wasn't photographing at Molas Lake, I was trying to get a campfire going. Not easy with wet, green wood at that altitude. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 19:59:30 2009 Received: (qmail 15752 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 17:59:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 17:59:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80605EDC035 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B30E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6B819F1A6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05DC19F161 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:59:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A3EC96E7 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:27:48 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <5FB70BC6-21B1-4B89-8A5B-D3712654FD3C@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:59:23 +0100 References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 19:59:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a772582295951073733319 Thanks, Jez, I enjoyed that little tour. I wish I had been there to help with the eating and drinking, though. Chris On 3 Aug 2009, at 10:59, Jez Cunningham wrote: > There's an annual event in Leuven (Belgium) where many of the > restaurants > have a pavement spot and sell samplers - usually 1-4 euro for a > small plate > of food, plus of course, Leuven being in the heart of beer-country, > plenty > of opportunity for a tipple. There are various entertainments too, > such as > a barman race (with a tray of drinks), music, ... See more at > http://hapjetapje.leuveninscene.be/ (in Dutch, use Google Translate) > > Anyway here are a few pictures from our stroll around yesterday > evening (I > missed the barman race): > http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jez.cunningham/HapjeTapjeLeuven2009?feat=directlink > > (If you're upset by out-of-focus foregrounds, look away now. I > tried to > keep up the senorita quotient, but I had to include a few touristic > pictures > too) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 20:32:36 2009 Received: (qmail 8050 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 18:32:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 18:32:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD2FE180B6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12D0E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8B519F584 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED91C19F574 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (smtp01.online.nl [194.134.41.31]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD148E119 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:32:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp01.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:32:24 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:32:22 +0200 Message-ID: <9D68C4C62ECA43B8A46A9A7BB184BF81@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908030950o5a1fd56ejf38ec753e294048a@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp01.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 20:32:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a772d44294096789618724 Joel, I have the same feelings about Digital "vs" Film as you describe. You describe it far better than I ever could. For my usage though I have left the OM's alone completely since I switched to the E system. That does not mean I dislike the OM's at all. I still admire their technical marvell and simplicity to use. But for the complete workflow digital rules in my house. Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Joel Wilcox [mailto:jfwilcox@gmail.com] = > Verzonden: maandag 3 augustus 2009 18:50 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) > = > = > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, DrT (George = > Themelis) wrote: > >> Usually people on craigslist price old film cameras as = > though digital = > >> never happened... > > > > Did digital really happen? =A0Someone, please, wake me up! :) > > > > I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film = > > with their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? > > > > Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), for = > > personal photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. > > > > Nothing in digital compares to the quality and realism of = > looking at a = > > pair of sharp stereo slides in a good 3-D viewer. =A0Progress = > is being = > > made, but I have not seen anything to convince me to switch = > to digital = > > stereo photography.... So, I keep shooting/mounting stereo slides, = > > despite the cost and time required. > = > I guess I'll take the bait, though anything with "vs" in the = > subject seems likely just to stir the pot. > = > Digital has been happening for me since 1995, when I bought = > my first film scanner. I shot slides nearly exclusively = > until 2004, then my experiment with digital source = > photography began. I kept thinking I was going to continue = > shooting film a lot, but the batteries mostly died in the = > bodies as they sat on the shelf. > = > I'm shooting my remaining Kodachrome at the moment in an OM-4 = > and enjoying it a lot. While I am enjoying it, it does not = > displace my DSLR. Like most things analog, film photography = > is being displaced, if not replaced, at a time when it is in = > full leaf and flower. It has never been better, really. It = > is extremely good and it is a known quantity. If you like = > the look of film, whether you process it via a traditional or = > digital darkroom, you really have no reason to believe that = > you will somehow come to dislike how it looks. Good is good. > = > If I were doing a lot of color darkroom or enjoyed firing up = > the slide projector, I would certainly favor shooting film = > more than I do currently. But I like the E-system a lot. = > The lenses are excellent, the cameras are exciting to use, = > and the results speak for themselves. For a manual = > focus-only system, OM is excellent as far as it goes. My = > experience with it has greatly enriched my ability to get the = > most out of the E-system. The reverse is true as well. I = > can't really choose between them any more than I could choose = > between one of my parents. > = > And I don't see why I need to. I like them both and both = > serve my needs, though I expect to put many more exposures = > through my DSLRs than my OMs. I certainly don't need to = > dislike digital capture in order to like OM. Digital = > photography has helped me further my skills in photography in = > general, and that serves my film photography as well. > = > Furthermore, downstream in the process digital has returned = > much better results than I was ever able to get in the = > darkroom, particularly in color photography, and I have more = > or less been able to match my darkroom BW prints closely and = > even improved tonalities slightly, though I haven't found a = > near-archival inkjet paper I like for BW printing. I would = > definitely agree that the conventional darkroom rules in BW = > photography. But with color, for me, no way. > = > Life is good. People get restless with one thing or another, = > and I'm no exception, but life is still good, particularly = > when there are options. > = > Joel W. > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com = > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release = > Date: 08/03/09 05:57:00 > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 20:43:21 2009 Received: (qmail 29225 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 18:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 18:43:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81FAEDC030 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DF1E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B980C34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9846934AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20090803184316H01002f27pe>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:43:16 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <0D05A39EB6E64A39964E818047DE401C@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9D68C4C62ECA43B8A46A9A7BB184BF81@wiliam> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:43:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 20:43:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a772fc97411258626592 > I still admire their technical marvell and simplicity to use. But for the > complete workflow digital rules in my house. OK, so, from what I can tell, there are two kinds of Olympus film equipment owners: A minority is still shooting film (maybe occasionally) with their Olympus film equipment. The majority has switched to digital but hang to their Olympus film equipment (or part of them) for sentimental reasons. The question is, who is buying all these Olympus film cameras in ebay? Hundreds of Olympus film cameras & equipment are sold every week in ebay. Where are they going? Those who have been around for a while, already have what they need, and maybe are looking for some more unusual pieces. Who is buying the OM1s, 2s, 50mm lenses, etc? Will we ever reach a point when no one really wants to buy the more common Olympus items? George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 20:52:37 2009 Received: (qmail 25616 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 18:52:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 18:52:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01A1EDC026 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FD6E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C2019F6F8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:52:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97D119F6E2 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.64]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9096 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 18:52:31 -0000 Message-ID: <233182.8904.qm@web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PbBD.wgVM1k.tZs8w36EhfeDXM8MvvQJ2AYAr2PF9bQFWcC3iW_s4GIVqEcxQTZwVa63_PCtg80O.J6L3IBK_uSZY1wqrBQG7uwSddTrC8jAWUKRMlAagvb4cQx0JOQI9FcH89f7nTUz5QEcIZ7z9dL8DYmt.kvaOsv0GTHQm5o9yZb4u14U6HoyTgeL7K7dvfSYjmqJ9Gz4mTsEwpxCAIqgkM70ZazdrqxNc2pi4tdCCsyqNjnmjOeji34eRl4wf7QqM2EPh45C0Rm0dY7qLayN3WFgD9n9e_OrtU9wN7E9HUOHW0ZwsPQhXEsGTc_4ZlfDKQ-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:52:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <0D05A39EB6E64A39964E818047DE401C@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 20:52:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7731f5265432439112457 Not just sentimental reasons. They are still functional cameras and great cameras. Many people shoot a good mix of digital and film. The digital vs film debate is endless. There are pros and cons to both. As for who is buying Olympus equipment off Eboy, there are closet OM users I imagine. I ran into a gentleman locally who absolutely loves the OM system. They are out there. Some newer E-users also 'discover' the OM system after jumping into digital. Many of them pick up Zuiko lenses to use with adapters. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 20:53:48 2009 Received: (qmail 6899 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 18:53:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 18:53:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2D9EDC037 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A82E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791D834AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:53:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176D334AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:53:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (donholbrook@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PqEF1c00K0cZkys51utgy4; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:53:40 +0000 Received: from sz0029.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.79]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Putg1c00G1iZpPQ3WutgAq; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:53:40 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:53:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Don Holbrook To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <1617698765.8828431249325620327.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4A76BC2E.2B3E.004E.1@PalmettoHealth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [76.96.58.79] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (zclient/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 20:53:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77323c271233900897491 With the MF-1 adapter, your digital body will work on the old bellows as well as the OM's did. Just remember the 2x lens factor! Even the flashes work -- you just have to chimp a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clay Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Sent: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) I gave up film years ago and probably never will shoot film again. I have thought many times about just donating my OM-2s and other legacy equipment (closet queen stuff). Aside, does any one think that Olympus will develop a bellows for the E system? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 20:56:58 2009 Received: (qmail 10294 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 18:56:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 18:56:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A470EDC028 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE14EE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE36A19F6FF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4610119F77C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.69]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 36735 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Aug 2009 18:56:52 -0000 Message-ID: <520415.35910.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: SuZmf4kVM1kAWXF7nIm1Z5wIZRuYljvNusrFzP5GNnjKFgCd3LIlh1Qp39qQqJvhDkzqYIV1Jeju0b3sF_YHTgInzhK7eVstB_UyztBLo_4Abc2uFJjWmR2Zrq.zJ5IQCOZPkCQGKlKSP_.8TdiR2GZfZnIdtbu0Pplu6WzjLf9ZxXILGBr8t8iDAbnl88jtm.iDX1RQMzVnqahxe.j7luOD1RWTu1_CMFAgT6WCKa3DNDLRaQD8hG68acnIKi8D8fgOdZXDDX_17yCw7iHM3o6DhU1asN3zEeZqZI50DZvQTJgK6Znq9gN56CAtW6Mj.g-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:56:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:56:52 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <1617698765.8828431249325620327.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 20:56:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7732fa156241006886880 Clay - donations gladly accepted here! 8-)) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 21:07:37 2009 Received: (qmail 7152 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 19:07:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 19:07:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACA3E18068 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1D7E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0149719F94C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A1519F93A for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:49861 helo=IanMacBookPro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MY2sa-00032R-IX for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4A773562.7000307@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:07:14 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 21:07:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a773579208732013633067 If you ordered a 15" then my advice is don't open it, send it back and get a 17" 1920x1200 matt version, it is really not that much bigger and fits in my fastpack 250. If you have gone for the smaller 13" one then obviously size is more important so forget above ;-) Chris Barker wrote: > Not yet, Ian. The trumpets will sound tomorrow, vieleicht ... > > ... and I thought that you would use the living-in-a foreign-country- > and-not-practising-my-English excuse :-) > > (quite reasonably, of course) > > Well I suppose it would be reasonable if my german was getting better good :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 21:10:54 2009 Received: (qmail 25924 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 19:10:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 19:10:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF72EDC049 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D40E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734D834AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:10:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B4734AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:10:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090803191046H0600kd9ite>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:10:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <098730260D694CC0952810FE2EBEA7A8@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <233182.8904.qm@web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:10:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 21:10:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77363e146392439112457 > As for who is buying Olympus equipment off Eboy, there are closet OM users > I imagine. I ran into a gentleman locally who absolutely loves the OM > system. They are out there. Yes, well, take me as an example: I got interested in Astronomy (again, after many years). Someone (in Astromart) was selling an Olympus "astrophotography kit" that included an OM1 with the appropriate focusing screen, finder, and some other adapters etc. When I got the camera, I fell in love with it, so I started buying more in ebay. A Nikon camera that accepts interchangeable focusing screens and has provision for lifting the mirror is too big, too heavy and too expensive. So, there is a lot to admire in the OM1. My latest ebay acquisition: Just received an Olympus OM1 in mint condition with case, Albinar 28mm (OK, you can't have everything), T1 flash mint w/case. I paid $31, plus $8 shipping. I guess this is a low as one can hope to buy a mint OM1. I cannot get over how beautiful the OM1 is... I am showing it to my wife, firing the shutter at 1 second and asking her if she has seen a more attractive camera than this... I see her rolling her eyes... I don't think she appreciates this camera as much as I do :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 21:27:17 2009 Received: (qmail 759 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 19:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 19:27:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D64EDC047 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE00BE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F67E19FA37 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:27:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A0819FA1E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2813043fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:27:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.173.72 with SMTP id d8mr689232hbf.103.1249327628643; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:27:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <233182.8904.qm@web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <0D05A39EB6E64A39964E818047DE401C@home> <233182.8904.qm@web39803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:27:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c7fa969ed177f7ee Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 21:27:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a773a15323044877110844 > > Not just sentimental reasons. They are still functional cameras and great > cameras. Many people shoot a good mix of digital and film. The digital vs > film debate is endless. There are pros and cons to both. > Two weeks in the mountains of Colorado and of the serious photographers I ran into, (which wasn't that many) about 1/3 were shooting film. Among that, there were a couple 4x5 cameras but no medium-formats, surprisingly. No other OM systems, but a couple of E-5xx cameras were spotted. Meanwhile, the really cool scenes with outstanding lighting were all to my own. I had a hard time believing I was the only person to have spotted some of this stuff. BTW, I did revisit "the house" in the San Luis Valley (N 37.663, W 105.829) and was pleased to note the inclusion of another abandoned house just to the west (N 37.663, W 105.855). Best camping spot in the valley is exactly at N 37.7482, W 105.5043. Then there was that abandoned car west of Eads, and the two-hour rainbow... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 21:29:32 2009 Received: (qmail 10263 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 19:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 19:29:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C3CEDC038 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D44E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A7319FA54 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:29:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9CF19FA47 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:29:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2814304fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:29:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.157.140 with SMTP id q12mr643246hbc.80.1249327764723; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:29:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:29:24 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac7c5d1e416db37b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 21:29:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a773a9c231056789618724 > > I do hope that we meet one day, Ken ... > Likewise. I'll bring my Nomex. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 22:32:11 2009 Received: (qmail 6045 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 20:32:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 20:32:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E092E182B0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF61E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E67A19FF04 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:32:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC51519FEFE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:31:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2009 16:31:54 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:31:54 -0400 Message-Id: <4A7710EB0200004E00027122@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:34:25 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 22:32:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77494b181481136683642 Thanks Don That is is exactly what I am doing especially with the 20mm and 38mm macros. I just wish Olympus would make the same kind of system committment with E system macro equipment as they did with the OM system. So far, they have produced a fair number of zooms with overlapping focal lengths. Obviously, these are the lenses are selling. Not much is the macro range though. I have always thought the the olympus OM macro group was the best on the market and still is. I lived off of the T28 twin flash for years. The twin flash for the E cameras is not so hot. I never really liked the T8/T10 ring flashes. The ring flash for the E system is outstanding and is now my work horse for close up work. Does anyone know if you can stack macro rings for the E cameras? Clay >>> Don Holbrook 08/03/09 2:54 PM >>> With the MF-1 adapter, your digital body will work on the old bellows as well as the OM's did. Just remember the 2x lens factor! Even the flashes work -- you just have to chimp a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clay Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Sent: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) I gave up film years ago and probably never will shoot film again. I have thought many times about just donating my OM-2s and other legacy equipment (closet queen stuff). Aside, does any one think that Olympus will develop a bellows for the E system? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 22:49:45 2009 Received: (qmail 23757 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 20:49:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 20:49:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78FBE18064 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6BEE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3BB34AC004 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1731A34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3079 invoked by uid 504); 3 Aug 2009 20:49:35 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Aug 2009 20:49:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4A774D5D.6010403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:49:33 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090803-0, 08/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 22:49:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a774d69306101950411718 Ooh! That was good! Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > The wind lever in my OM-4T is slipping. Will the film still advance > correctly with the motordrive or is it slipping there too? > > I know, I know, CLA time.... It finally croaked on me during the trip and > the OM-2S faithfully jumped right in and took up the slack, so to speak. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 22:59:53 2009 Received: (qmail 5436 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 20:59:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 20:59:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C1FE18228 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAFBE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A4934AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5685034AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2009 16:59:34 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:59:34 -0400 Message-Id: <4A77176B0200004E00027161@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:02:10 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 22:59:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a774fc9169171560218263 Free to a good home: Olympus OM-2 body with attached databack, T 32 flash with the big power grip and appropriate cables. Given in "as is" condition. It has been used. It worked fine then. It worked when I stored it. Should be working now. No promises. BUT, not really "free". Rules: These are based on faith. If you break them, you are a schmuck. And when you go to bed at night, you will remember that you are schmuck. 1. No reselling of the items. If you get tired of the equipment, please donate them to another Olympus lover. 2. I would like reimbursement for the shipping costs. I will ship before receiving the reimbursement. Faith based. 3. The equipment will go to the best crying, whining, tear-jerking story on why you, and only you, deserves free Olympus equipment. 4. Never tell my wife I did this. The winner (or whiner) will be announced on Sunday night, August 9, 2009. Good Luck! Clay Nichols Columbia, SC PS If I have a lot of fun with this, there may be other "give-aways". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 23:01:14 2009 Received: (qmail 1171 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 21:01:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 21:01:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6360CE1806F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7C5E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED4434AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:01:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6F534AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:01:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3393850bwz.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:01:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.178.195 with SMTP id a3mr697295hbg.39.1249333263737; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:01:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A774D5D.6010403@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4A774D5D.6010403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:01:03 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b8c3fcce139b2f79 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 23:01:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77501a34404877110844 Dr Humor wrote: > Ooh! That was good! > Thanks. I was wondering what it was going to take to wake this group back up. To misquote the Joker in the original "Batman" movie--what this list needs is a good enema. Delivery Confirmation is a good thing. All my film mailed from Cotopaxi arrived safely to the lab. Yes, I had to mail it from Cotopaxi--with a town name like that, you just can't resist. My wife says that the city limits sign should have a period in it. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 23:02:30 2009 Received: (qmail 8297 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 21:02:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 21:02:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BAFE180B6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8E7E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D06219FF56 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:02:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61C319FF54 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:02:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web01-z01 ([10.127.132.92]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090803210222064.ROPY8326@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:02:22 +0000 Message-ID: <20090803210222.9ZTR1.80678.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:02:22 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: SwissPace Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 23:02:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a775066238671073733319 ---- SwissPace wrote: > I see I am over 500 messages behind the list but as I am ow back at work > I hope I can catch up this week. Let's see, catch up on camera list activities while at work. Okay. (Can't really say much, I'm reading them at work, too.) > We had some visitors so on one of the days we took a trip to the > mountains and then took a vernicular railway and then walked to the > Hammetschwandlift a lift on the side of a mountain, engineers were sure > busy a hundred years ago. > > Climbing Rope has some _serious_ fine art potential. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 23:13:12 2009 Received: (qmail 32180 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 21:13:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 21:13:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49D6EDC04D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC235E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81763610001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:13:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E00034AC003 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:13:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web01-z01 ([10.127.132.92]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090803211306514.RRKU8326@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:13:06 +0000 Message-ID: <20090803211306.UTLI7.80820.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:13:06 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Brian Swale Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 23:13:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7752e851216789618724 Not meaning to pick on Brian, but "digital doesn't cut the mustard for landscapes" is, well, hooey. More accurately, perhaps, the E-3 doesn't cut it. Or maybe the operator isn't familiar enough with his equipment. Or tried to push it too far. Who knows? I spent Saturday at the annual Gallery opening at John Paul Caponigro's. First display of prints from his third trip to Antarctica. Let me tell you something from the bottom of my heart: Digital cuts the mustard. It cuts the jar the mustard came in. It cuts the truck that delivered the jars of mustard. Frankly, this whole digital v. film argument gives me indigestion, and I intend to stop reading them. Both are good. Both have strengths, both have weaknesses. Digital is here to stay. Film will be around for a long, long time. Let us get over ourselves and concentrate on images. Images are all that matters. My 2 cents, as always, worth what you paid for it. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Brian Swale wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry this is so late ... > > Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for > landscapes. The top two links at > http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 23:22:22 2009 Received: (qmail 131 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 21:22:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 21:22:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468E3E181AC for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BFDE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEA134AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:22:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9BA34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:22:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MY4yu-0004su-B0 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:22:08 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MY4yt-0005MC-SX for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:22:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:22:13 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] i-gotU Travel Logger X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 23:22:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77550e17911234514069 Been back about a week from Belgium and France, still sorting through the piccies, doesn't seem to be much of merit. Also bought one of the named GPS devices. Having problems with it. Everything seems to be fine, downloaded latest software and driver, but it doesn't seem to be charging properly. The red LED never goes out, it won't switch on once detached from the computer. I know Frank bought one, anyone else? Anyone having issues? Forum on the manufacturer's website not of much assistance. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 23:34:09 2009 Received: (qmail 6828 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 21:34:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 21:34:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97EAE1806B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6661E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD9E19FFB9 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:34:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F0F19FFB6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:34:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1080026fgg.13 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:34:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.74 with SMTP id u10mr634735hbf.88.1249335240831; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:34:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A77176B0200004E00027161@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> References: <4A77176B0200004E00027161@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:34:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d5806c1ebed5f633 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 23:34:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7757d1361136683642 Now THIS is the spirit of this Olympus List! Clay, I won't give you some sad story to acquire your equipment--I've been blessed by the generosity of others on this list with equipment I dared not even dream about owning. I lack nothing and use everything. It has been a wonderful thing to not only receive, but to give. Through the lessons learned about giving and receiving, this past year my wife and I gave a perfectly good Jeep Grand Cherokee to a family in need even though we financially had no business doing so. We have been richly blessed many times over, both before and since. We've always given things of value away, but a $7000 vehicle was something that made us pause. Never a regret about it, though, and the impact on the lives of those we affected made it worthwhile. But had it not been for the unheard of generosity of fellow list-members, I'd not been sufficiently humbled enough to have given the vehicle away. Sometimes, it takes a mental shakeup to recognize that life is about others, not yourself. I say this not to toot horns or get sympathy--I say this because gifting has ramifications--when the giver and the recipient both understand the sacrifice as well as the responsibility that goes with it. Good luck with your contest. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 3 23:46:04 2009 Received: (qmail 18849 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 21:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 21:46:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A1DEDC045 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CD4E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393EF3610001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12DB34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:49361 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MY5Lx-0006Ef-AU for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:45:58 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:46:09 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example Thread-Index: AcoUg8+eDnAG24B3Ed6sLgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <20090803211306.UTLI7.80820.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 3 23:46:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a775a9c313355034211378 Digital is certainly good enough if you have the deep pockets that people like J.P. Caponigro have. He's likely using a Canon EOS 1DsIII, maybe even a medium format digital system. I know he uses Canon for a lot of his work. For those of us who cannot afford $8000 camera bodies, digital still isn't quite there. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/3/09 5:13 PM, "bwhitmire@roadrunner.com" wrote: > Not meaning to pick on Brian, but "digital doesn't cut the mustard for > landscapes" is, well, hooey. More accurately, perhaps, the E-3 doesn't cut it. > Or maybe the operator isn't familiar enough with his equipment. Or tried to > push it too far. Who knows? > > I spent Saturday at the annual Gallery opening at John Paul Caponigro's. First > display of prints from his third trip to Antarctica. Let me tell you something > from the bottom of my heart: Digital cuts the mustard. It cuts the jar the > mustard came in. It cuts the truck that delivered the jars of mustard. > > Frankly, this whole digital v. film argument gives me indigestion, and I > intend to stop reading them. Both are good. Both have strengths, both have > weaknesses. Digital is here to stay. Film will be around for a long, long > time. Let us get over ourselves and concentrate on images. > > Images are all that matters. > > My 2 cents, as always, worth what you paid for it. > > --Bob Whitmire > www.bwp33.com > > > ---- Brian Swale wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry this is so late ... >> >> Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for >> landscapes. The top two links at >> http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:00:12 2009 Received: (qmail 4187 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:00:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:00:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2230FE18065 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E7AE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECE734AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:00:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5AF34AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 370 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:12:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:59:52 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:00:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a775dec45029730998309 Hi Brian, Although I agree that a 35mm frame of fine-grained film (not to mention larger formats) does indeed theoretically contain more information than a typical DSLR capture, I must say that I see nothing wrong with your image. I think it will simply benefit from some sharpening, and that the camera's noise reduction settings were too aggressive - as the other here have said, it should simply be shot as RAW and carefully processed. It's still easier than with film! With my own equipment (Epson V700 scanner) digital does indeed beat 35mm film (although 6x7cm, which I shoot more often, knocks the socks off digital, even with my amateur scanner). Even grainy black and white film contains far more information than the otherwise 'cleaner' DSLR shots posted, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mossel_Bay_Overview.jpg So yes, the different media have different characteristics, but if we get on to more important topics, lets discuss your *image* itself: What did you aim to achieve with the composition? To be honest, it feels a bit unbalanced in my opinion, may have needed more (or less) top space. On 03 Aug 2009, at 11:47 AM, Brian Swale wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry this is so late ... > > Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard for > landscapes. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:09:40 2009 Received: (qmail 6707 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:09:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:09:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C48E1817D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5021BE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B44634AC00B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:09:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712E734AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5934300.8961249338116075.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 437 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:21:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A77176B0200004E00027161@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:09:26 +0200 References: <4A77176B0200004E00027161@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:09:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a776024316616107113666 Hi Clay, Well, I am not sure if you want replies off-list, or not, but here goes, why I would like to be the recipient of your equipment. First of all, I think I am one of the few (i.e. can count on one hand) number of list members using exclusively film equipment. As of this stage, I have zero (nada, zip) cameras with a built-in meter, I never replace the batteries of my OM-1's meter, because it forces me to work in the same all-manual way as with e.g. the Mamiya RB67. Now, my problem is this: I love Macro, and it's most of the time very difficult to calculate exposure for high-magnification work. Were I to be the kind recipient of said OM-2, it would be the most modern camera I own, and would be of great use in the Macro (all black and white film, of course, hand printed in the dark room). The same goes for a flash unit like the T32 - I don't own any flash unit, and would love to get some experience with Flash photography. Last of all, being down here in South Africa, you can be assured that if I ever tire of it, there would be no shortage of a needy soul to pass it along to. anyway, I had to take a shot at it! kind regards, Dawid P.S. When do you announce the free 3Ti? On 03 Aug 2009, at 11:02 PM, Clay Nichols wrote: > Free to a good home: Olympus OM-2 body with attached databack, T 32 > flash with the big power grip and appropriate cables. Given in "as > is" condition. It has been used. It worked fine then. It worked when > I stored it. Should be working now. No promises. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:11:09 2009 Received: (qmail 10922 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:11:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:11:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7029EEDC010 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFBAE240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741C834AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D314634AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2009 18:11:01 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:11:01 -0400 Message-Id: <4A77282C0200004E0002716E@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:13:39 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:11:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77607d126971342116753 Ken I too have been blessed in many ways. I could not consider selling this stuff. Like I said, free to a good home and I just want to have a good time giving it away. More to come. Clay of others on this list with equipment I dared not even dream about owning. I lack nothing and use everything. It has been a wonderful thing to not only receive, but to give. Through the lessons learned about giving and receiving, this past year my wife and I gave a perfectly good Jeep Grand Cherokee to a family in need even though we financially had no business doing so. We have been richly blessed many times over, both before and since. We've always given things of value away, but a $7000 vehicle was something that made us pause. Never a regret about it, though, and the impact on the lives of those we affected made it worthwhile. But had it not been for the unheard of generosity of fellow list-members, I'd not been sufficiently humbled enough to have given the vehicle away. Sometimes, it takes a mental shakeup to recognize that life is about others, not yourself. I say this not to toot horns or get sympathy--I say this because gifting has ramifications--when the giver and the recipient both understand the sacrifice as well as the responsibility that goes with it. Good luck with your contest. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:11:55 2009 Received: (qmail 24865 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:11:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:11:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BBFEDC031 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BE6E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48921A0022 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E4B1A0020 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26615489.8971249338253136.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 780 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:24:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:11:43 +0200 References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> <32509065.8721249285114441.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:11:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7760ab113141950411718 Thanks Chris, With some images, the weird bokeh sort-of works, with others it doesn't. (jut my opinion) I just wanted to post a similar example of a lens design aspect which obviously features in much greater proportions in the posted C-series lens / G1 combo examples. I'm glad you kinda like the image, was just a test shot really to test if the Yashica works before I gave it to my kid brother as a present. On 03 Aug 2009, at 10:14 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > I am not sure that the bokeh is particularly attractive, Dawid; but > the careful focus, and its contrast with the out-of-focus background, > is very effective. > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:14:30 2009 Received: (qmail 10357 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:14:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:14:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14893EDC02D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA19E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7311A0034 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4191A0025 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2009 18:14:22 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:14:22 -0400 Message-Id: <4A7728F50200004E0002717B@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:16:59 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:14:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a776146321416107113666 Dawid Thank you for your reply. You are the first. I hope there will be more to come. Yours would be a good home. I love macro, too. Clay >>> Dawid Loubser 08/03/09 6:10 PM >>> Hi Clay, Well, I am not sure if you want replies off-list, or not, but here goes, why I would like to be the recipient of your equipment. First of all, I think I am one of the few (i.e. can count on one hand) number of list members using exclusively film equipment. As of this stage, I have zero (nada, zip) cameras with a built-in meter, I never replace the batteries of my OM-1's meter, because it forces me to work in the same all-manual way as with e.g. the Mamiya RB67. Now, my problem is this: I love Macro, and it's most of the time very difficult to calculate exposure for high-magnification work. Were I to be the kind recipient of said OM-2, it would be the most modern camera I own, and would be of great use in the Macro (all black and white film, of course, hand printed in the dark room). The same goes for a flash unit like the T32 - I don't own any flash unit, and would love to get some experience with Flash photography. Last of all, being down here in South Africa, you can be assured that if I ever tire of it, there would be no shortage of a needy soul to pass it along to. anyway, I had to take a shot at it! kind regards, Dawid P.S. When do you announce the free 3Ti? On 03 Aug 2009, at 11:02 PM, Clay Nichols wrote: > Free to a good home: Olympus OM-2 body with attached databack, T 32 > flash with the big power grip and appropriate cables. Given in "as > is" condition. It has been used. It worked fine then. It worked when > I stored it. Should be working now. No promises. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:20:54 2009 Received: (qmail 26409 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:20:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF69EDC032 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24574E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060E11A0043 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:20:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1CF1A0047 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so2904079fxm.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:20:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.146 with SMTP id m18mr673312hbc.24.1249338042958; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:20:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090803211306.UTLI7.80820.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <20090803211306.UTLI7.80820.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:20:42 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7913e729c78f843c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:20:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7762c6104941234514069 > > Not meaning to pick on Brian, but "digital doesn't cut the mustard for > landscapes" is, well, hooey. More accurately, perhaps, the E-3 doesn't cut > it. Or maybe the operator isn't familiar enough with his equipment. Or tried > to push it too far. Who knows? > I absolutely agree. It's just like those who say "film stinks" are off their rockers. Digital DOES have a look, just as B&W film has a look and Color film has a look. Yes you can get them to mimic each other, but that's compromising the medium of choice to get it to pretend to be something it is not. Some of my best landscape photography has been taken with digital, just as some of my best landscape photography has been taken with film. The medium does influence what and how you shoot, though. I photographed things these past two weeks in ways I haven't shot for years because I specifically was shooting film. When digital proofing, I looked at the viewfinder and the monitor and thought "this sucks". It's because I didn't compose the image FOR digital, I composed the image FOR film. Does it make a difference? Don't you compose for the image? It actually does make quite a big difference. When your film is Velvia, you tend to look for things which Velvia enhances. When your film is B&W, you look for lighting and tonalities which are B&W oriented. When your camera is digital, you look for things which digital is best at. I know that I was shooting differently whether the camera was loaded with Velvia or Provia. One evening, I was photographing a small mountain lake after sunset. Earlier in the roll of Provia, I was lamenting the fact the camera wasn't loaded with Velvia, but then a half-hour later, when I was shooting 2-3 minute exposures, I was glad I had Provia and not Velvia and especially not digital. I took pictures I wouldn't have even hazarded if I was shooting digital. (thank you Ken Rockwell). Digital also suffers when pushing the limits of high-key and low-key images. I absolutely agree with Chris Crawford that digital is good enough for landscape photography if you are willing to spend the money. My lowly E-1 is good enough for most of my event jobs, but woefully inadequate for "fine-art landscape photography" (he says with a hauty accent). For this, I'm more than happy with high-quality 35mm film. Shoot, if was good enough for Galen Rowell, it's good enough for me. :) I'm immediately going to get jumped on for implying that the E-1 is anything near "state of the art", but actually, when you limit the maximum print size, the specifications of the E-1's imaging system is very much near "state of the art". There is nothing shabby about the color capture, nor the dynamic range. This "resolution" and "maximum print size" thing is a current fad. How long it lasts is anybody's guess, but personally, I think it's way overblown. I've sold far more 8x10 and 11x14 prints than 16x20, and 5x7 prints have blown away all of the above. There is so much emphasis on "size" that the compositions have suffered. There is an attitude that making it bigger makes it better. I was going hog-wild shooting with the OM-3Ti one morning. I had a polarizer and red #25 filter on the lens. It was just as the sun peaked over the mountains and started shining on the top of the dunes. The lighting was subtle, but in the viewfinder of my camera the images just lept out at me--one right after another. I had to force myself to stop shooting. I grabbed the E-1 to make a digital duplicate, looked through the viewfinder at exactly the same scene and didn't have any clue what I was photographing. The visualization in the viewfinder was so different, I might as well have been on different planets. I would have NEVER seen and taken the shot and definitely wouldn't have post-processed an image to what I saw in my OM viewfinder. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:24:16 2009 Received: (qmail 22908 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:24:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:24:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4647FEDC030 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D359E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733AB34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293A934AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.141] (helo=anti-virus02-08) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MY5wu-0003rP-NI for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:24:09 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MY5wu-0002V5-7r for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:24:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4A77638D.1020204@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:24:13 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE04615B94E32-71C-1586@WEBMAIL-DY12.sysops.aol.com> <4A739CCF.2050403@chucknorcutt.com> <32509065.8721249285114441.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <26615489.8971249338253136.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <26615489.8971249338253136.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:24:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77639050376107113666 Dawid Loubser wrote: > Thanks Chris, > > Just getting around to replying. I really liked the image, as it struck me as Matthew Brady-esque, like one of those old shots taken with outrageous big, bottle-lensed large format cameras that needed a four-horse team to shift. Just MHO. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:25:21 2009 Received: (qmail 5429 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:25:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:25:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1764EDC02F for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442E5E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2944B1A004B for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:25:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5431A0029 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3432669bwz.14 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:24:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.69 with SMTP id 5mr740995hbu.4.1249338299724; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:24:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:24:59 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7252721f902069c6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] i-gotU Travel Logger X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:25:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7763d197651258626592 on a related note, i used the gps extensively to mark waypoints of places i took pictures. This was especially important in eastern Colorado where I'm at a loss where I took several pictures--even when zoomed way in on Google Earth trying to match things up with my memory. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:43:19 2009 Received: (qmail 5926 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:43:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:43:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DEEEDC041 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDA1E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F2B1A0065 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:42:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B9C1A0068 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:42:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.123]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n73Mgol7011627 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:42:51 +1000 Message-Id: <200908032242.n73Mgol7011627@mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:42:50 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:42:50 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:43:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a776806251811234514069 > Ken Norton wrote: > > > I love shooting film and find that I am doing far better compositions > with > film than digital. > Yeah, that's right, with digital it's either a "1" or a "0" ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 00:49:38 2009 Received: (qmail 3607 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 22:49:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 22:49:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549EEEDC029 for ; 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Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:49:23 +1000 Message-Id: <200908032249.n73MnNjX008487@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail09.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:49:23 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:49:23 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 00:49:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a776982277299752976205 > Nathan Wajsman wrote: > > I didn't know there were enough interesting things in Orlando to shoot > 32 rolls of slide film...(yes, I lived in Florida for 6 years and have > suffered many trips to Orlando during that time). > Hmm, if George is shooting stereo then that's only 576 stereo images. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 01:15:07 2009 Received: (qmail 23971 invoked by uid 0); 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Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:14:43 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE2A751949112-E64-24C1@webmail-mh26.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 01:15:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a776f7b217342517112723 I bet you are correct about the spherical aberration, Dawid. I find your example more pleasant and a nice shot BTW. In lenses with very highly corrected spherical aberration/flat field like the Z. 50/3.5 the bokeh can get funky too. Complex recent vintage zooms seem to suffer the same fate as explained by AG (AKA Dr. Bokeh?) I am glad Chuck questioned the species of flower--I'll keep an eye out for Spider Lilies--quite attractive. I have seen Moose quite closely duplicate (perhaps perfectly) nice smooth bokeh in a "pick a blur" post, but it is difficult to duplicate. I have seen some PS instructions applying a gradient to "lens blur" or Gaussian blur to closely simulate a lens with nice bokeh. For now, given skill, time contraints, I'd rather have the lens do it if possible. Mike Same Here, that is a bit rough. Isn't this sort of thing caused by extreme spherical abberation in the out-of-focus areas? A Yashica TLR I used to use had this, but just enough to be pleasant (see, for example, this photo: (80mm, f/3.5 wide open) http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/194/d/b/Graswiel_by_philosomatographer.jpg But in the extreme measures exhibited by the link provided, yes - "yikes", that's really distracting. On 01 Aug 2009, at 3:39 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yikes, I was getting seasick from the "bokeh". -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 01:18:34 2009 Received: (qmail 9955 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2009 23:18:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 3 Aug 2009 23:18:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB52BE181B2 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF18E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CA21A00E1 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:18:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7201A00DF for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:18:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.239]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n73NIPaG020233 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:18:25 +1000 Message-Id: <200908032318.n73NIPaG020233@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail05.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:18:25 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:18:25 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 01:18:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77704a11431946193717 > Don Holbrook wrote: > > With the MF-1 adapter, your digital body will work on the old bellows as > well as the OM's did. Just remember the 2x lens factor! Even the > flashes work -- you just have to chimp a bit. > You mean you don't need digital bellows :) I can't think of any company that introduced new bellows for their digital systems. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 02:05:42 2009 Received: (qmail 14239 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 00:05:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 00:05:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484FDE182B4 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A971DE240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9388B1A0163 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7161A0152 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7405PnV003157 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:05:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d02.5dd918f3 (33856) for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:05:19 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:05:19 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 02:05:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a777b5681491560218263 Clay, when you make your list don't even think about putting my name on it. I am blessed with what I need and perhaps a good bit more. I join others in applauding this act of generosity. Good show! Bill Barber In a message dated 8/3/2009 4:00:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Clay.Nichols@PalmettoHealth.org writes: Free to a good home: Olympus OM-2 body with attached databack, T 32 flash with the big power grip and appropriate cables. Given in "as is" condition. It has been used. It worked fine then. It worked when I stored it. Should be working now. No promises. BUT, not really "free". Rules: These are based on faith. If you break them, you are a schmuck. And when you go to bed at night, you will remember that you are schmuck. 1. No reselling of the items. If you get tired of the equipment, please donate them to another Olympus lover. 2. I would like reimbursement for the shipping costs. I will ship before receiving the reimbursement. Faith based. 3. The equipment will go to the best crying, whining, tear-jerking story on why you, and only you, deserves free Olympus equipment. 4. Never tell my wife I did this. The winner (or whiner) will be announced on Sunday night, August 9, 2009. Good Luck! Clay Nichols Columbia, SC PS If I have a lot of fun with this, there may be other "give-aways". -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 02:49:44 2009 Received: (qmail 26227 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 00:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 00:49:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB3E1822D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA49E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E436134AC008 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E38A34AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17527 invoked by uid 504); 4 Aug 2009 00:49:36 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Aug 2009 00:49:36 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7785A0.2020205@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:49:36 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090803211306.UTLI7.80820.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> In-Reply-To: <20090803211306.UTLI7.80820.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-0, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 02:49:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7785a8176981357919056 Me thinks Brian is a fine landscape photographer who expects his E3 to operate like an OM-1. When he finally comes to grips with the differences and learns to make the E3 do what he wants he'll unleash what's waiting under the surface. Chuck Norcutt bwhitmire@roadrunner.com wrote: > Not meaning to pick on Brian, but "digital doesn't cut the mustard > for landscapes" is, well, hooey. More accurately, perhaps, the E-3 > doesn't cut it. Or maybe the operator isn't familiar enough with his > equipment. Or tried to push it too far. Who knows? > > I spent Saturday at the annual Gallery opening at John Paul > Caponigro's. First display of prints from his third trip to > Antarctica. Let me tell you something from the bottom of my heart: > Digital cuts the mustard. It cuts the jar the mustard came in. It > cuts the truck that delivered the jars of mustard. > > Frankly, this whole digital v. film argument gives me indigestion, > and I intend to stop reading them. Both are good. Both have > strengths, both have weaknesses. Digital is here to stay. Film will > be around for a long, long time. Let us get over ourselves and > concentrate on images. > > Images are all that matters. > > My 2 cents, as always, worth what you paid for it. > > --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com > > > ---- Brian Swale wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry this is so late ... >> >> Here's an example of why I think digital doesn't cut the mustard >> for landscapes. The top two links at >> http://www.brianswale.com/zuikoholics/index.htm > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 02:53:56 2009 Received: (qmail 14559 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 00:53:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 00:53:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F5EDC00C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27B8E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BF31A01E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472361A01DD for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20323 invoked by uid 504); 4 Aug 2009 00:53:49 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090804-0, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 02:53:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7786a333381879814018 But you don't need a 1DsIII to equal its image quality... especially if you're doing landscape and can do slow and thoughtful and panorama building. Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > Digital is certainly good enough if you have the deep pockets that people > like J.P. Caponigro have. He's likely using a Canon EOS 1DsIII, maybe even a > medium format digital system. I know he uses Canon for a lot of his work. > > For those of us who cannot afford $8000 camera bodies, digital still isn't > quite there. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 03:03:46 2009 Received: (qmail 31651 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 01:03:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 01:03:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE2DE181AE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC7E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A0B34AC005 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:03:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5E834AC004 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27065 invoked by uid 504); 4 Aug 2009 01:03:39 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@71.76.196.135) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 4 Aug 2009 01:03:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7788EB.2090508@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:03:39 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200908032318.n73NIPaG020233@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200908032318.n73NIPaG020233@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-0, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 03:03:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7788f282469730998309 You mean the ones that had compatible lens mounts and still sell bellows? :-) Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Don Holbrook wrote: >> >> With the MF-1 adapter, your digital body will work on the old bellows as >> well as the OM's did. Just remember the 2x lens factor! Even the >> flashes work -- you just have to chimp a bit. >> > > You mean you don't need digital bellows :) > > I can't think of any company that introduced new bellows for their digital systems. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 03:25:36 2009 Received: (qmail 8532 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 01:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 01:25:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365C4EDC030 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BBBE240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2851A0245 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:25:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED63D1A0234 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:25:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103.ctimail.com [61.93.57.254]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n741PT1A022045 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:25:29 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n741PSNs027635 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:25:28 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <0EBFD42046434981AC456FA06DE0B965@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:25:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 03:25:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a778e10195321076813867 For landscape you don't need a $8000 body, the 5D II will do the same with much lower price :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Crawford" > Digital is certainly good enough if you have the deep pockets that people > like J.P. Caponigro have. He's likely using a Canon EOS 1DsIII, maybe even > a > medium format digital system. I know he uses Canon for a lot of his work. > > For those of us who cannot afford $8000 camera bodies, digital still isn't > quite there. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 04:01:41 2009 Received: (qmail 10728 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 02:01:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 02:01:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DC3E18063 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B623E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADF81A02A8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:01:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316791A02A5 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:01:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden103.ctimail.com (maiden103.ctimail.com [61.93.57.254]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden103.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7421Yus026440 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:01:34 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n7421XJe009866 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:01:33 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:00:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 04:01:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a779685222309730998309 Wow! You MF scan is really impressive and the photo itself is very nice. I tried to scale up a 5D II image to 7000x4667 it seems not as detail but I would say it is not that far away. Shot with OM 35/2 at F5.6 handheld: http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_5761.JPG (4.8MB) BTW, if it was not with B/W film will the details be so fine :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawid Loubser" > > With my own equipment (Epson V700 scanner) digital does indeed beat > 35mm film (although 6x7cm, which > I shoot more often, knocks the socks off digital, even with my amateur > scanner). Even grainy > black and white film contains far more information than the otherwise > 'cleaner' DSLR shots posted, > e.g. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mossel_Bay_Overview.jpg > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 04:20:27 2009 Received: (qmail 2614 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 02:20:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 02:20:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A82EDC03D for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB87E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7941B1A02C8 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:20:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AAF1A02C6 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:20:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web04-z01 ([10.127.132.95]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090804022021350.WEEC11389@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:20:21 +0000 Message-ID: <20090804022021.HDNYI.91476.root@cdptpa-web04-z01> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:21 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Chris Crawford Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 04:20:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a779aeb2961006886880 ---- Chris Crawford wrote: > Digital is certainly good enough if you have the deep pockets that people > like J.P. Caponigro have. He's likely using a Canon EOS 1DsIII, maybe even a > medium format digital system. I know he uses Canon for a lot of his work. > > For those of us who cannot afford $8000 camera bodies, digital still isn't > quite there. Canon 5D MkII. He does have deep pockets, and corporate sponsors, but he's a wizard with his gear. That stuff wasn't just handed to him. And a _lot_ of people can afford a 5D Mk II system. But a lot of people can't do with it what JP can. It's not enough to blame economics. Digital is there. The skill to use it more than likely is what's lacking. Digital is relatively new, compared with film. It takes a while to learn how to play the violin, and some will always be better than others. The trick is to learn to do the very best work you can do with the equipment you can afford, and not to let yourself get in your own way while doing it. (That's a generic "you", FWIW, not specially addressed to the specific you, Chris.) All this film vs. digital talk is an effing waste of breath, and does nothing more than contribute carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. Sometimes I think it's reached the proportions of bovine methane flatulation. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 04:26:40 2009 Received: (qmail 27198 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 02:26:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 02:26:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BFBEDC03C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50251E240BE for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5FF34AC002 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:26:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F3434AC001 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:26:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web04-z01 ([10.127.132.95]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090804022634354.WFOC11389@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:26:34 +0000 Message-ID: <20090804022634.77KL6.91573.root@cdptpa-web04-z01> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:26:34 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Ken Norton Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 04:26:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a779c608611234514069 Never said that film stinks. Never will. Just won't shoot much, if any. Your love affair with the 3Ti is well documented, and I appreciate how you feel when you're using it. That's what it's all about, at least as far as I'm concerned. That said, I feel much the same way when using my D3. As strong, or stronger. In fact, again not meaning any disrespect, I wouldn't trade my D3 for any Olympus camera, film or digital. And while I've never used a 3Ti, I did deploy a 4Ti for a while. Loved it, but love the D3 more. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com ---- Ken Norton wrote: > > > > Not meaning to pick on Brian, but "digital doesn't cut the mustard for > > landscapes" is, well, hooey. More accurately, perhaps, the E-3 doesn't cut > > it. Or maybe the operator isn't familiar enough with his equipment. Or tried > > to push it too far. Who knows? > > > > > I absolutely agree. It's just like those who say "film stinks" are off > their rockers. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 07:29:34 2009 Received: (qmail 15696 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 05:29:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 05:29:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE461EDC026 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE42E240E0 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFD01A047E for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:29:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C391A047C for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (richard.lists@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so6582353yxe.22 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:29:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.199.11 with SMTP id w11mr11002944ybf.275.1249363764638; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:29:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7ac27f4f0908032228r5012fc73v622c8c90f4a507a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7ac27f4f0908032228r5012fc73v622c8c90f4a507a0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:29:24 -0700 Message-ID: <7ac27f4f0908032229g29d8497by2de0eb086bf0b5b@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard Man To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] More Self Promotion... 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Pass this on: http://www.imagecraft.com/pub/Portfolio09/ -- // richard m: richard @imagecraft.com // w: http://www.rfman.com blog: http://rfman.wordpress.com // book: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/745963 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 09:52:55 2009 Received: (qmail 24556 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 07:52:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 07:52:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFFCEDC017 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60548E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E7619DC09 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB74D19DBC2 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 00:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so6255202gxk.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:52:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.211.20 with SMTP id j20mr12537575ybg.169.1249372368246; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:52:48 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ce7ab8ff2286e0e9 Message-ID: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 09:52:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77e8d799241136683642 Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member who is willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one for Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information as above if you'll sell it to me. Thank you very much!!!! --- Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 10:37:03 2009 Received: (qmail 12339 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 08:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 08:37:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930B8EDC02F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF35BE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8E134AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:36:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7949934AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:36:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:7725 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYFVx-0005RU-12 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: <4A77F323.20202@picturepedia.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:36:51 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <20090803210222.9ZTR1.80678.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> In-Reply-To: <20090803210222.9ZTR1.80678.root@cdptpa-web01-z01> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 10:37:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77f32f190492013633067 > > Let's see, catch up on camera list activities while at work. Okay. (Can't really say much, I'm reading them at work, too.) > > I am now in the position of being paid for what I know and not what I do ;-) reminds me of when I worked in telecoms and one group were paid to sit around and be there just in case of downtime, saving 1 hour of downtime paid their salaries for a year, they had some interesting ways to kill the boredom. >> >> >> > > Climbing Rope has some _serious_ fine art potential. > Thanks to you and everyone else who looked and commented, I am learning a lot from the views and comments, some surprise me and some not but they all encourage me. IanW -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 10:56:38 2009 Received: (qmail 5083 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 08:56:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 08:56:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EF1E1805B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E0AE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064EA34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194DB34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (smtp-out3.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.178]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 01:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYFob-0006O8-Rq for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:56:28 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:55:44 +0200 Message-ID: <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 10:56:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77f7c6150261950411718 I should have known, Jez. I was in Maastricht and Li=E8ge/Luik for the past week, and could easily have driven to Leuven on Sunday. BTW, Maastricht has its 'Preuvenemint' (4 tasting days!) at the end of this month, 27-30 August. I'll try to be there, but lodging is always very difficult to find then... http://www.preuvenemint.nl/default.asp?cid=3D39 Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:59:16 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >There's an annual event in Leuven (Belgium) where many of the restaurants >have a pavement spot and sell samplers - usually 1-4 euro for a small plate >of food, plus of course, Leuven being in the heart of beer-country, plenty >of opportunity for a tipple. There are various entertainments too, such as >a barman race (with a tray of drinks), music, ... See more at >http://hapjetapje.leuveninscene.be/ (in Dutch, use Google Translate) > >Anyway here are a few pictures from our stroll around yesterday evening (I >missed the barman race): >http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jez.cunningham/HapjeTapjeLeuven2009?feat=3Dd= irectlink > >(If you're upset by out-of-focus foregrounds, look away now. I tried to >keep up the senorita quotient, but I had to include a few touristic pictur= es >too) > >cheers >jez -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 11:02:25 2009 Received: (qmail 5833 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 09:02:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 09:02:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DD7EDC008 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B39E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A050519DD72 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 11:06:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77fa20284911612113968 Hi Dawid, or anyone else with a mac and a v700 scanner, what software do you use to scan, I was using the epson scan software but now I urgently need to scan some slides for my father in law I get can't write to disk errors, so I tried vuescan once again but I just can't see how to select the individual scan areas for the slides with that, I know its a problem I have because everyone raves about it but I can't find a decent guide to tell me what to do and the step by step guide doesn't help. Maybe I should try epson scan from windows on the mac and see if that works > > With my own equipment (Epson V700 scanner) digital does indeed beat > 35mm film (although 6x7cm, which > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 11:07:59 2009 Received: (qmail 17266 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 09:07:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 09:07:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B72EDC012 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C121CE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B330C34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3310C34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYFzi-0001X5-3H for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:07:53 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:07:13 +0200 Message-ID: <11uf75l374g72lkrj4s0lsr01u8kdbtham@4ax.com> References: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] i-gotU Travel Logger X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 11:07:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77fa6f216016789618724 Things like this can happen, Donald. Mine is working great, and I have no problems at all. At this very moment it sits here on my desk blinking blue, and I haven't even charged it for a couple of days. Perhaps the weird proprietary USB cable doesn't make proper contact? The red LED will also stay on if the memory is full. Can that be the problem? http://global.mobileaction.com/support/sub-igotU/F1-3-13.htm In that case you'll have to clear the data to your computer. Otherwise just return the thing to your dealer for a replacement! Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:22:13 +0100, Donald wrote: >Been back about a week from Belgium and France, still sorting through >the piccies, doesn't seem to be much of merit. > >Also bought one of the named GPS devices. Having problems with it. >Everything seems to be fine, downloaded latest software and driver, but >it doesn't seem to be charging properly. The red LED never goes out, it >won't switch on once detached from the computer. > >I know Frank bought one, anyone else? Anyone having issues? Forum on the >manufacturer's website not of much assistance. > >D. > >-- >I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 11:16:46 2009 Received: (qmail 11294 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 09:16:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 09:16:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EFAEDC02A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8BBE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7CE34AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDBD34AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 02:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MYG8K-0008Dh-Tk for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:16:36 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MYG8J-00046A-HO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:16:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4A77FC7C.1040506@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:16:44 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> <11uf75l374g72lkrj4s0lsr01u8kdbtham@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <11uf75l374g72lkrj4s0lsr01u8kdbtham@4ax.com> Subject: Re: [OM] i-gotU Travel Logger X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 11:16:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a77fc7e123761744846740 Frank van Lindert wrote: > Things like this can happen, Donald. Mine is working great, and I have > no problems at all. At this very moment it sits here on my desk > blinking blue, and I haven't even charged it for a couple of days. > Perhaps the weird proprietary USB cable doesn't make proper contact? > The red LED will also stay on if the memory is full. Can that be the > problem? > http://global.mobileaction.com/support/sub-igotU/F1-3-13.htm > In that case you'll have to clear the data to your computer. > > Otherwise just return the thing to your dealer for a replacement! > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > Thanks, Frank. I think I'll pop it back this afternoon. They may not have another in stock, but I can wait. The cable is a bit odd, but seems to be in contact. The lights are fine when connected to the laptop, but it won't come on when detached. Gadgets, gadgets..! D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 12:04:12 2009 Received: (qmail 15049 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 10:04:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 10:04:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4928FE1806A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E32E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF27819DEE6 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:04:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8E219DEDF for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from mta03.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip06.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.84]) by mta03.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-3.04 (built Jul 15 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KNU002NDJYIAG60@mta03.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:03:54 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-138-11-142.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.138.11.142]) by ip06.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:03:54 -0300 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:03:55 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: <5D46EDF2C8614F30AA2AFD422CD7B11A@hudson> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgILAKukd0oYiguO/2dsb2JhbACBTIlFyhoJgh8GgWoFhBs X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,320,1246849200"; d="scan'208";a="511715088" X-EsetScannerBuild: 5395 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 12:04:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78079c185001136683642 Back when, the Mandarin Hotel at the extreme right and the original Bank of China building behind the law courts [building with the dome in the lower right] were some of the tallest buildings in town ! What an amazing photographic tribute to economic growth since 1975. jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example > Wow! You MF scan is really impressive and the photo itself is very nice. I > tried to scale up a 5D II image to 7000x4667 it seems not as detail but I > would say it is not that far away. > > Shot with OM 35/2 at F5.6 handheld: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_5761.JPG (4.8MB) > > BTW, if it was not with B/W film will the details be so fine :-) > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dawid Loubser" > >> >> With my own equipment (Epson V700 scanner) digital does indeed beat >> 35mm film (although 6x7cm, which >> I shoot more often, knocks the socks off digital, even with my amateur >> scanner). Even grainy >> black and white film contains far more information than the otherwise >> 'cleaner' DSLR shots posted, >> e.g. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mossel_Bay_Overview.jpg >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4304 (20090804) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4304 (20090804) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 12:14:38 2009 Received: (qmail 23021 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 10:14:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 10:14:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBE6EDC01B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4FEE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF12634AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E1734AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:14:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (thomas@thomasclausen.org whitelisted) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aste-genev-bois-153-1-21-74.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr ([83.112.201.74] helo=[192.168.147.109]) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1MYH2L-0003Sc-Kp for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:14:29 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 83.112.201.74 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19Nud94rKR4MTCl9UbsYnlp Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <4A773562.7000307@picturepedia.org> References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> <4A773562.7000307@picturepedia.org> Message-Id: <1F0FC67B-3B4A-4531-A3A8-17CBE4BE000B@ThomasClausen.org> From: Thomas Heide Clausen Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:15:12 +0200 To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 12:14:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a780a0d185331258626592 Uh....ughh.....don't do it.....especially not if the laptop is intended to be used "on the road". I've been lugging around a 17" for the past couple of years, and man, is that a HUGE and HEAVY machine. Another guy in my team acquired a 15", which is a lot lighter and easier on the back and in the briefcases when traveling. At the time, I had to get the 17" as I thought that I wanted a FW800 port -- the extra pounds have made that a lot less important for me, and I'm known these days as the "odd man out" in meeting: I'm the one with a legal pad and a fountain pen, rather than a laptop as everybody else, due to the sheer hassle of dragging along the 17" (feel free to make OM-vs-wunderbrick analogy here....). Yes, I am expecting a MacBook Air one of these days....size *does* matter. Thomas On Aug 3, 2009, at 21:07 PM, SwissPace wrote: > If you ordered a 15" then my advice is don't open it, send it back and > get a 17" 1920x1200 matt version, it is really not that much bigger > and > fits in my fastpack 250. If you have gone for the smaller 13" one then > obviously size is more important so forget above ;-) > > > Chris Barker wrote: >> Not yet, Ian. The trumpets will sound tomorrow, vieleicht ... >> >> ... and I thought that you would use the living-in-a foreign-country- >> and-not-practising-my-English excuse :-) >> >> (quite reasonably, of course) >> >> > Well I suppose it would be reasonable if my german was getting better > good :-) > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 13:02:17 2009 Received: (qmail 7496 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 11:02:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 11:02:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC087E18068 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF86E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BAE34AC00A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD1E34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26425 invoked by uid 504); 4 Aug 2009 11:02:09 -0000 Received: from cpe-071-076-196-135.triad.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090804-0, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] V700 scanning was - Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 13:02:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78153985491258626592 I have a V700 on WinXP. I have used VueScan to scan multiple negatives in the film strip holder. Unfortunately, I've only done it once so far and can't give you detailed instructions. I'm also not at home where I can try things out but think I can point you the way to get started. First, download the VueScan user's manual in PDF form so you can readily search the entire document. Next, search under the "input tab" for "batch scan". Setting batch scan is important for getting more than one image on each pass. Next, search under the "crop tab" for "Multi Crop". Multi crop is used for flat bed scanners using a film holder that arranges the film frames in a grid. I believe that this is where I went wrong on my one use of VueScan on the V700. I think if I had done this properly the grid arrangement for the V700 would have been retrieved... which also means that VueScan needs to know whether it's working on slides or negatives since the film holder layout is different for each. Anyhow, either the V700 layout isn't known to VueScan or else I did it wrong since I ended up manually setting up the scan area layout. I suspect I didn't set "multi crop". I hope to do better next time. Hope this helps at least a little. Chuck Norcutt SwissPace wrote: > Hi Dawid, > > or anyone else with a mac and a v700 scanner, what software do you use > to scan, I was using the epson scan software but now I urgently need to > scan some slides for my father in law I get can't write to disk errors, > so I tried vuescan once again but I just can't see how to select the > individual scan areas for the slides with that, I know its a problem I > have because everyone raves about it but I can't find a decent guide to > tell me what to do and the step by step guide doesn't help. > > Maybe I should try epson scan from windows on the mac and see if that works >> With my own equipment (Epson V700 scanner) digital does indeed beat >> 35mm film (although 6x7cm, which >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 13:03:11 2009 Received: (qmail 29924 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 11:03:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 11:03:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABE0E1822C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74628E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F55219DFFD for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0E819DFF9 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYHn8-0003cu-7E for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:02:50 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:02:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> <11uf75l374g72lkrj4s0lsr01u8kdbtham@4ax.com> <4A77FC7C.1040506@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4A77FC7C.1040506@blueyonder.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] i-gotU Travel Logger X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 13:03:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78156f205521006886880 One other thing which came to mind: did you perhaps try to charge the i-GotU through a non-powered USB hub? In that case the power might be sufficent to make the device operate while connected, but fail to charge it as well. Somewhere in their website the manufacturers recommend to use chargers which can deliver at least 500mA, that's why I started wondering... Frank. On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:16:44 +0100, Donald wrote: > >Thanks, Frank. I think I'll pop it back this afternoon. They may not >have another in stock, but I can wait. > >The cable is a bit odd, but seems to be in contact. The lights are fine >when connected to the laptop, but it won't come on when detached. > >Gadgets, gadgets..! > >D. > >-- >I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 13:49:31 2009 Received: (qmail 7280 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 11:49:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 11:49:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4870E180B6 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E49E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F2334AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:49:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3F934AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:49:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 04:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.137] (helo=anti-virus01-08) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MYIWC-0006cZ-06 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:49:24 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MYIWB-0007DX-E4 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:49:23 +0100 Message-ID: <4A78204D.7030706@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:49:33 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A775505.5070205@blueyonder.co.uk> <11uf75l374g72lkrj4s0lsr01u8kdbtham@4ax.com> <4A77FC7C.1040506@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] i-gotU Travel Logger X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 13:49:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78204b190041234514069 Frank van Lindert wrote: > One other thing which came to mind: did you perhaps try to charge the > i-GotU through a non-powered USB hub? In that case the power might be > sufficent to make the device operate while connected, but fail to > charge it as well. > Somewhere in their website the manufacturers recommend to use chargers > which can deliver at least 500mA, that's why I started wondering... > > Frank. > > On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:16:44 +0100, Donald wrote: >> Thanks, Frank. I think I'll pop it back this afternoon. They may not >> have another in stock, but I can wait. >> >> The cable is a bit odd, but seems to be in contact. The lights are fine >> when connected to the laptop, but it won't come on when detached. >> >> Gadgets, gadgets..! >> >> D. >> >> -- >> I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. Thanks again, Frank. Don't think so, though. It's been directly attached to both the desktop and the laptop, neither situation improved matters. D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 14:15:30 2009 Received: (qmail 14382 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 12:15:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 12:15:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED05CE182CA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B63E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FB234AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:15:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57CB34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:15:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 05:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.207.232]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNU00LGEQ14VEBG@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:15:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A78264E.3000103@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:15:10 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 14:15:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78266227511234514069 Film should advance normally with motor drive as that bypasses the top part of the wind mechanism. I really don't like the wind mech in the 2S, 3, 4. Instead of a gear / pawl setup like OM-1/2 (which has it's own problems), they employed a sliding clutch that rides inside inside a gear. Hard to rebuild, all parts not available. Usually requires replacement of entire top wind assembly. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: > The wind lever in my OM-4T is slipping. Will the film still advance > correctly with the motordrive or is it slipping there too? > > I know, I know, CLA time.... It finally croaked on me during the trip and > the OM-2S faithfully jumped right in and took up the slack, so to speak. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 15:03:48 2009 Received: (qmail 29919 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 13:03:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 13:03:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF8FE182B5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60078E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D8619E41C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362FA19E41B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.25]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.104] (104.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.104]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A8D2F40B2 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:03:29 +1200 (NZST) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:03:29 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090803-0, 03/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 15:03:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7831b4127461879814018 Thanks everybody for your input. I will save it all for study. The shot was taken with the camera on a heavy tripod, and a hand was on it to hold it firmly down. I see it was shot at f/5 - the rest were shot at f/8 and I don't remember changing the f.stop. I deliberately excluded most sky from the shot as in my opinion it added nothing to the composition I wanted to achieve. I managed to see about 80% of CH Ling's 10MP cityscape before my modem disconnected me and it was lost; I agree that that shot had over much of it, better detail than mine has. Several of you commented on technical detail (such as distance of focus), which none of my software reports to me.. Please advise what software does this. Bob Whitmire drew my attention to JP Caponigro's site ( http://www.johnpaulcaponigro.com/index.php ) and his Antarctic photos which are all digital. On his site he says he uses Canon 5Ds Mark II, Canon 1Ds Mark II, Canon 1Ds, Canon 28-135 IS lens, Canon 100-400 IS lens, and Canon 2X extender. I found very few of his Antarctic shots, but I noticed that many of the shots he exhibits on his site are greatly modified using Photoshop, and he employs staff to do this. Much of his work in my opinion would best be described as photo art ( of very talented quality, I hasten to add). MY local hero ( Andris Apse - http://www.andrisapse.com/ also recently spent a month in Antarctica, and I just discovered he had a 2-month-long exhibition in the Otago Museum in Dunedin. I missed it. He uses mostly (but not only) Linhof Technorama cameras. I don't know that he uses digital at all but I might ask him. I've started shooting 120 film and that is to continue. Scanning and associated storage problems worse than what I am coping with now are in the not-too-distant future. I have a book project firmly in my sights and I think (having bought copies of most of Andris Apse's many excellent books (as well as those of other photographers) and tried to learn from them and adapt the best for myself), that 120 film is essential for the best shots I am likely to take. Meantime I had better go on trying to take better photos. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 15:19:12 2009 Received: (qmail 24143 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 13:19:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 13:19:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDC9E1806B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F90E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D761519E4CE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:19:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9546719E4CC for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:19:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3226079fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:19:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.63.193 with SMTP id c1mr5923458bki.20.1249391940645; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:19:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:19:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 15:19:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a783550239501220213263 Hello Brian, I'm on Mac OS and use Graphicconverter to see all the Exif details. I believe Exiftool does this as well, but I'm not sure about the interface, probably irfanview or acdsee support it as well? One big contibution to fuzzyness I see might be the IS which was ON while on the tripod. All the best with the workflow, Iwert 2009/8/4 Brian Swale : > Thanks everybody for your input. > > I will save it all for study. > > The shot was taken with the camera on a heavy tripod, and a hand was on it > to hold it firmly down. I see it was shot at f/5 - the rest were shot at = f/8 and I > don't remember changing the f.stop. > > I deliberately excluded most sky from the shot as in my opinion it added > nothing to the composition I wanted to achieve. > > I managed to see about 80% of CH Ling's 10MP cityscape before my > modem disconnected me and it was lost; I agree that that shot had over > much of it, better detail than mine has. > > Several of you commented on technical detail (such as distance of focus), > which none of my software reports to me.. Please advise what software > does this. > > Bob Whitmire drew my attention to JP Caponigro's site ( > http://www.johnpaulcaponigro.com/index.php =A0) and his Antarctic photos > which are all digital. On his site he says he uses Canon 5Ds Mark II, > Canon 1Ds Mark II, Canon 1Ds, Canon 28-135 IS lens, Canon 100-400 IS > lens, and Canon 2X extender. > > I found very few of his Antarctic shots, but I noticed that many of the s= hots > he exhibits on his site are greatly modified using Photoshop, and he > employs staff to do this. Much of his work in my opinion would best be > described as photo art ( of very talented quality, I hasten to add). > > MY local hero ( Andris Apse - http://www.andrisapse.com/ =A0also recently > spent a month in Antarctica, and I just discovered he had a 2-month-long > exhibition in the Otago Museum in Dunedin. I missed it. He uses mostly (b= ut > not only) Linhof Technorama cameras. I don't know that he uses digital at= all > but I might ask him. > > I've started shooting 120 film and that is to continue. Scanning and > associated storage problems worse than what I am coping with now are in > the not-too-distant future. =A0 I have a book project firmly in my sights= and I > think (having bought copies of most of Andris Apse's many excellent books > (as well as those of other photographers) and tried to learn from them and > adapt the best for myself), =A0that 120 film is essential for the best sh= ots I am > likely to take. > > Meantime I had better go on trying to take better photos. > > Brian Swale. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 15:26:37 2009 Received: (qmail 12595 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 13:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 13:26:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67553E1817D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3E8E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D9234AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:26:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121DF34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:26:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so3269775fxm.37 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.142 with SMTP id t14mr755147hbd.75.1249392389820; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A78264E.3000103@verizon.net> References: <4A78264E.3000103@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:26:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47dcfe185ef6bdc7 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 15:26:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78370d115701950411718 Thanks, John. I attached the MD2 last night and wasted a couple frames of elcheepo print film. It advanced the film just fine. So, the MD2 is now permanently attached. Not that that's a bad thing... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 15:43:14 2009 Received: (qmail 22985 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 13:43:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 13:43:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BC8E180B7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C31E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EC219E5CA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A870B19E589 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:43:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYKID-0008Ji-3v for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:43:05 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <200908032318.n73NIPaG020233@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:43:03 +0100 Message-ID: <8CF78D78CBD947B2B40B493D4BB621C7@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <200908032318.n73NIPaG020233@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoUkL12cA2THGZAQfKZ/kJLi1F1bQAdz0Ww X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 15:43:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a783af274753900897491 You mean you haven't seen this one? http://www.hemy.me.uk/Miscellany/P8046774.jpg No, the bellows are not Olympus, nor Hama, nor Novoflex, but PB-4 from the "N" brand. If you can find them for less than $150, you are in luck, as they seem to go for around $300 - sorry about the smug self-satisfied tone ;-). I confess there is a bit of digital skulduggery involved to portray it on an OM-1 body, as I don't have a mount to OM - it usually sits on an E-body, using a readily-available N to 4/3 adaptor. The OM to N adaptor was not so readily available, but a 7mm OM extension tube and a donor N bayonet (I nearly put "kebab"!) from an N extension tube were of great assistance. So was the Dremel, but no epoxy or duct tape was harmed in this project - and the less-than precision milling is hidden between the mounts, so you can't see it. Piers -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Harridge [mailto:wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 04 August 2009 00:18 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) > Don Holbrook wrote: > > With the MF-1 adapter, your digital body will work on the old bellows > as well as the OM's did. Just remember the 2x lens factor! Even the > flashes work -- you just have to chimp a bit. > You mean you don't need digital bellows :) I can't think of any company that introduced new bellows for their digital systems. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 16:28:11 2009 Received: (qmail 22690 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 14:28:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 14:28:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E10EDC03B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD15E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F166834AC010 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACDE34AC00C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:28:04 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n74ES0mk003722 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:28:02 GMT Message-ID: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:28:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 16:28:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78457b141456789618724 I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the center of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the autoexposure system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 16:34:22 2009 Received: (qmail 19489 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 14:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 14:34:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77164E180CD for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2CCE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6478334AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:34:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED2F34AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:34:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so676448fga.13 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:34:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.87.1 with SMTP id k1mr2613876fgb.74.1249396456789; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:34:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:34:16 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c1cc0a0116ff96e5 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908040734j69453028wd047a5734127d177@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 16:34:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7846ee11771342116753 Surely something that our Leica users can answer... Jez On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Jim Nichols wrote: > What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 16:39:59 2009 Received: (qmail 3545 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 14:39:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 14:39:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C93E182B5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5F4E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BC534AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:39:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B2A34AC008 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:39:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3801545bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:39:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.119.9 with SMTP id x9mr2513877bkq.75.1249396793742; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:39:53 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] another Pen F Service question... 60mm f1.5 aperture X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 16:39:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78483f200211560218263 Hello everybody, after succesful recalibration of my Pen FT meter by carefull wigling of the speed knob, I'm looking for a solution to a problem my 60mm f1.5 developed: The aperture ring is stiff between f4 and F11, aperture is dry and snappy. It is an FT lens so with the reversible scale. I have an exploded view diagramm from the book of John Foster (biofos), but that shows the first "F version" of the lens. Question is how to get at the ring? I suppose a carefull cleaning of the inner parts of the ring will do, but don't know how to get at it (and I'm not in a mood to experiment with this lens :) Many thanks for any advice, Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 16:41:05 2009 Received: (qmail 16613 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 14:41:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 14:41:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4DDE1822D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40A5E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53E119E7CA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:40:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885EF19E7C7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3276458fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.208 with SMTP id o16mr815477hbb.49.1249396855993; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:40:55 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cf87e0106f80897f Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 16:41:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78488169411234514069 I'm one to do an analysis on how stuff works in the overall approach. For this trip I had picked and chosen a set of equipment based on some assumptions as well as shooting styles of the past several years. Here is what I took and a few comments with it. (these comments are being copied down from my pocket notebook). ITEMS TAKEN: 1. OM-4T - Used it for slide film. Film advance started slipping too much and was replaced by the 2S. 2. OM-2S - Used it for print film, B&W film and then slide film once the 4T acted up. 3. OM-3Ti - Used it for B&W (Neopan SS), flawless. 4. E-1 - Used it for digital backup of some film shots as well as for proofing. 5. 14-54 Zoom - Used with the E-1 6. 35-80/2.8 Zoom - Used mostly for color slide film pictures. VERY enjoyable to use--the most used lens of the trip. 7. 24/2.8 - Wasn't used as much as expected. 35mm was usually wide-enough and teles were used more. 8. 35/shift - This lens was used mostly with B&W. I wouldn't have used it as much, but it was my only "normal, normal-wide" focal length lens with a 49mm filter-ring size. 9. 100/2.8 - Used mostly with B&W. Wonderful as always. 10. 200/4 - Used it a lot with B&W, but was the most used lens behind the 35-80. 11. 300/4.5 - Used it some, but it was usually a touch too long. 12. Lowe-Pro SlingShot 300 AW bag. I'll save my comments for another section. 13. Medium-sized Bogen (Manfrotto) 3001 tripod with medium-sized ball-head with hex-plate. 14. Mini-tripod - Used only to prop up a tarp at the campsite. 15. Monopod - Used it quite a bit, but not as much as usual because of close shooting proximity to the vehicle. 16. Polaris flash/ambient meter - Used it for post-sunset scenes at mountain lake. 17. Cable release - Too short, where in the world is my big one? 18. QR plates - grrrrr 19. Hoya B&W filter set, 49mm and 72mm polarizers. 20. Naneu Pro bag - used it mostly to just hold exposed film. 21. Lens cleaning supplies 22. Fanny Pack - used to carry stuff when hiking. 23. ExpoDisc - Not used. 24. Extension tubes and reversing rings. ITEMS NOT USED ON TRIP: 1. ExpoDisc - This one surprised me, but between the handheld's ambient dome and the multi-spot metering, I never felt the need or desire to drag it out. Frankly, I think I forgot I had it with me. 2. 25mm extension tube - I did use the 14mm on the 300/4.5 when shooting critters, but never touched this one. 3. Reversing Ring - Any macro opportunities were thwarted by high winds. ITEMS NOT TAKEN THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN: 1. Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 - I'm of mixed opinion here, but having two zooms (35-80 and 100-300) for a given kit sure is handy and efficient. Not for everything, but does reduce kit size when trying to be efficient. It's not that I missed having the lens, it's just that it would have been handy a couple of times. 2. Zuiko 50/3.5 - I was missing a normal (non-shift) medium focal-length lens for use with B&W. 3. MD2 drives - Hex plates and OM bodies don't work well together. Almost always in the past I had winders attached to my OM bodies to address this issue. My memory of that faded. 4. Flash - Space constraint was an issue, but I should have packed at least a 285HV. 5. Big 3021 Tripod - What was I thinking? I'm 6'4" and trying to use my short squatty tripod? Duh! 6. 55mm lens shade. Last night I finally figured out how to use it with the B&W filters. Grrr. ITEMS NEEDED: 1. Longer cable-release - My 18" one is missing somewhere in my darkroom boxes. Longer is better. 2. New QR system - The hex plate quick-release plate system has got to go. 3. ND GRAD filter - self explanatory 4. Step Ring for the 35-80 to use my 72mm polarizer. 5. UV Filters. Overall, I believe that my equipment selection was pretty much OK. I did give a lot of thought to the equipment selection and proof that it was pretty good is the list of items not used on the trip. Of the items not taken, the one that was slam-dunk needed was my big 3021 tripod. This was the first time I really regretted not taking it with me. Normally not that big of an issue because I tend to reduce the height of the tripod for lower-level shooting, but for the grand scenics that I was photographing, I got a kink in my neck. The MD2 drives were left behind because of size/weight concerns. As it turned out, a second bag was really needed anyway, so this savings was nulled out. The one assumption I made was that the 35-80 would "replace" the normal 35/2.8 and the 50/3.5. This was a good assumption, except for one thing: Filters. My B&W filters are 55mm ring size (I have 49-55 step rings) and the polarizers are 49mm and 72mm. So the 35-80 couldn't be used with the B&W filters and I didn't have a step ring for the 72mm polarizer. This was the only thing that really held the 35-80 back from being nearly universally usable. There was one thing I fought the whole time. The Lowe-Pro SlingShot 300 AW bag is as close to worthless as I've come across. It is a difficult bag to work out of. The "Top Load" limiting claspes get caught in the zipper every time you open the bag up all the way and then try to zip it back up. The shoulder strap is VERY slippery unless you put it up and over your head--which is the designed way to carry it. Because the strap is so slippery you can't just casually carry it on your shoulder for a few seconds or minutes. Most disturbing is that the inner flaps and seams get caught in the zipper. You're constantly having to work the inner material out of the way every time you close the zippers. The bag does have a few redeeming values--if you are restricted to ONE camera and two zooms, the bag is ideal, but as I'm constantly swapping cameras and lenses, the bag was horrid for this. As a general rule, I've not been a fan of UV "protective" filters, but I'm starting to come around. I'll be getting quality UV filters for the zooms. The hex-plate QR system has run its course with me. Unfortunately, a change will require all new heads. If I change, maybe it's time to change bases too. Ugh. So much for "lifetime" investment. What I ended up doing was taking my small ballhead that I use on the mini-tripod and monopod and attached it to a QR plate. It looked kinda silly having two ballheads stacked, but it was quite usable. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 16:58:52 2009 Received: (qmail 22524 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 14:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 14:58:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2156E18068 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36521E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E33234AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:58:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBB234AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:58:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYLTQ-0004lN-IU for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:58:44 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:58:42 +0100 Message-ID: <933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoVD84aTECXsn6IS0WQ/EwyaeE7zwAA40GA X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 16:58:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a784cac70081413256596 I think all you have lost is your bearings, Jim! And I say that from a position of knowledge - of lost bearings, and much else. If the 510 is the same as the 410, the red dot confirms autofocus, not autoexposure. Assuming you are using 4/3 optics, I guess you might need to clean the contacts on body and lens. But if it's the exotic OT optics, hell you don't deserve no AF confirmation! Or else you need to clean the same contacts on your AF-confirm chipped adaptor. But as Jez pointed out, others are better placed to opine on red dots - see you over on the LUG? Piers -----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols [mailto:jhnichols@lighttube.net] Sent: 04 August 2009 15:28 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] E-510 Question I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the center of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the autoexposure system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 17:03:15 2009 Received: (qmail 26461 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 15:03:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 15:03:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515CAE1806B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDB6E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD6D34AC00A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB45E34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090804150309H05002j30ce>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:03:09 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:02:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 17:03:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a784db3180222517112723 Wow Ken! You carry a lot of stuff! Thanks for the interesting posting. Just to give you the "stereo photographer's perspective" I have to have everything twice... Two 100mm lenses, two 200mm lenses, two 300mm lenses, etc. Plus a minimum of two very similar/identical bodies, plus a special bar to carry two cameras and lenses, spliced cable releases, etc., etc. Deciding what to carry in trips is always a big issue, especially if I am flying. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 17:24:49 2009 Received: (qmail 3701 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 15:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 15:24:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCFFE1805E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA4E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5D319E94B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEB719E901 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3830734bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:24:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.139 with SMTP id o11mr791210hba.60.1249399479969; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:24:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:24:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 17:24:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7852c1130131560218263 2009/8/4 DrT (George Themelis) : > Wow Ken! =A0You carry a lot of stuff! =A0Thanks for the interesting posti= ng. > > Just to give you the "stereo photographer's perspective" I have to have > everything twice... Two 100mm lenses, two 200mm lenses, two 300mm lenses, > etc. =A0Plus a minimum of two very similar/identical bodies, plus a speci= al > bar to carry two cameras and lenses, spliced cable releases, etc., etc. > Deciding what to carry in trips is always a big issue, especially if I am > flying. Have you tried the electrically linked winder-2s method? It worked quite well for me. I could even get flash sync at 1/30s with only one flashgun. http://iansstereophotography.fotopic.net/ has some examples - Everything from Blaise Castle Estate to Llangynog except Flamborough Head were taken with a pair of 2SPs linked that way. Needs red/cyan or red/green glasses. -- = Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 17:26:51 2009 Received: (qmail 29495 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 15:26:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 15:26:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA951E182B2 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2999CE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115B234AC008 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:26:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FA034AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:26:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3306087fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.173.72 with SMTP id d8mr809918hbf.103.1249399604883; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:26:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:26:44 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d8db10fe070d464a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 17:26:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78533b57509730998309 > > Wow Ken! You carry a lot of stuff! Thanks for the interesting posting. > Well, two weeks in the mountains of Colorado and working out of the back of a Jeep allowed me to carry more stuff than normal. If I was backpacking, it would have been a mere fraction of the kit. Film does require more equipment than Digital if you are a multi-format or multi-medium photographer. As I was committed to both Color and B&W, this required two cameras and for some reason I decided to bring a spare--which paid off. So, that's three cameras, compared to the current digital philosophy of one camera. Lenses had minimal overlap, but shooting primes increases the equipment count quite a bit. Last night, I broke down the trip kit and put things back to my various "go kits". There is the digital bag, which contains the E-1 with 14-54 as well as the Tokina AT-X 100-300/4. As I do occasional portrait/event work with this kit, there are a pair of Vivitar 285HV flashes with wireless remotes in the bag. Other than that, the bag is pretty well complete, but I have a spot for an additional camear of some form to toss in there on-demand. There is the B&W bag--a small shoulder bag, which contains the OM-3Ti, 35/2.8, 100/2.8 and 200/4 lenses as well as the filter-set. The Film-bag has the OM-2S and OM-4T cameras with MD2 drives, 35-80, 24/2.8, 35/shift, 50/3.5 and 300/4.5 lenses. At any time, I can grab an item from any bag and substitute in another bag. This is my configuration-du-jour. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 17:29:38 2009 Received: (qmail 24619 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 15:29:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 15:29:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8F2E18255 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB62E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EA334AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DB834AC008 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n74FTPH9003072 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:29:28 GMT Message-ID: <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> <933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:29:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 17:29:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7853e2191411258626592 Piers, I may be mistaken, and Oly manuals are a pain to search, but I believe that autofocus, or really focus confirmation, is comfirmed by a green dot in the right margin of the finder. I am using Leica lenses with an adapter, and this particular adapter is not equipped with a chip and contacts to enable focus confirmation. Yes, my lenses do have red dots. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question >I think all you have lost is your bearings, Jim! And I say that from a > position of knowledge - of lost bearings, and much else. > > If the 510 is the same as the 410, the red dot confirms autofocus, not > autoexposure. Assuming you are using 4/3 optics, I guess you might need > to > clean the contacts on body and lens. But if it's the exotic OT optics, > hell > you don't deserve no AF confirmation! Or else you need to clean the same > contacts on your AF-confirm chipped adaptor. > > But as Jez pointed out, others are better placed to opine on red dots - > see > you over on the LUG? > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Nichols [mailto:jhnichols@lighttube.net] > Sent: 04 August 2009 15:28 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] E-510 Question > > I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty > support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the > center > of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the autoexposure > system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed > change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. > > What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 17:34:06 2009 Received: (qmail 29491 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 15:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 15:34:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF9EEDC01F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD048E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE5334AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7845134AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090804153400H05002j5u0e>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:34:00 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:33:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 17:34:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7854ee162419752976205 > Have you tried the electrically linked winder-2s method? It worked > quite well for me. I could even get flash sync at 1/30s with only one > flashgun. http://iansstereophotography.fotopic.net/ Wow! Another stereo photographer! I just got into this (last month). I have just now acquired the winder 2's and I will be experimenting soon. My first question when I joined this list was regarding the synchronization of the Olympus cameras, especially the mechanical OM1 using electrical cords. It was explained to me that the winder 2 fires the camera mechanically. I am now curious and eager to check the synchronization. The test is very simple: You link the two cameras with the winders electrically linked and the backs open, facing an illuminated white piece of paper. You fire the cameras (trying different speeds) and look at the impression as you see through *both* cameras (from the back, looking towards the white area). If you see a white 24x36 area, then the camera are 100% synchronized. If the synchronization is off, then you see a smaller illuminated area or even nothing if the cameras are totally off. Even electrically synchronized cameras are only synchronized up to 1/125 or maybe 1/250 if you are lucky (this is considered excellent). I wonder how well the Olympus will be synchronized given their mechanical activation. For what you are saying, they seem to be synchronized at 1/30 for the flash. I hope they go higher, to 1/125 or higher. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:00:44 2009 Received: (qmail 2122 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:00:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:00:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9676CE1822C for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A44BE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C15F34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:00:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F100634AC005 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464ECC9780 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:29:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <41A02AAD-F7D9-4154-9739-AF94EF46C174@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <1F0FC67B-3B4A-4531-A3A8-17CBE4BE000B@ThomasClausen.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:00:33 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> <4A773562.7000307@picturepedia.org> <1F0FC67B-3B4A-4531-A3A8-17CBE4BE000B@ThomasClausen.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:00:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785b2c200291234514069 It's OK, Thomas, I always intended to get the smallest one. I have just sold my white MacBook, having changed the top case after it cracked, and bought the smallest MacBook Pro. It is a beautiful little thing, but my hard drive is giving it problems. I removed the 250Gb that came with it and installed the 500Gb that I had in the old one. The result is a strange startup behaviour, with Winders-like scrolling information before it gets to the normal login screen ... By the way, the 13" MBPro is small enough for you to save your money on the Air, I should have said. Chris On 4 Aug 2009, at 11:15, Thomas Heide Clausen wrote: > Uh....ughh.....don't do it.....especially not if the laptop is > intended to be used "on the road". > > I've been lugging around a 17" for the past couple of years, and man, > is that a HUGE and HEAVY machine. Another guy in my team acquired a > 15", which is a lot lighter and easier on the back and in the > briefcases when traveling. > > At the time, I had to get the 17" as I thought that I wanted a FW800 > port -- the extra pounds have made that a lot less important for me, > and I'm known these days as the "odd man out" in meeting: I'm the one > with a legal pad and a fountain pen, rather than a laptop as > everybody else, due to the sheer hassle of dragging along the > 17" (feel free to make OM-vs-wunderbrick analogy here....). > > Yes, I am expecting a MacBook Air one of these days....size *does* > matter. > > Thomas > > On Aug 3, 2009, at 21:07 PM, SwissPace wrote: > >> If you ordered a 15" then my advice is don't open it, send it back >> and >> get a 17" 1920x1200 matt version, it is really not that much bigger >> and >> fits in my fastpack 250. If you have gone for the smaller 13" one >> then >> obviously size is more important so forget above ;-) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:05:22 2009 Received: (qmail 32648 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:05:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:05:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD52E182B5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1D9E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3394534AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:05:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B38B34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:05:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYMVl-0006ny-7i for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:05:13 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3> <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:05:11 +0100 Message-ID: <41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoVGGt5bZ0tmO/KSAKrrPPPJa8OTwAAmdhg X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:05:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785c4236771234514069 Yep, of course you are right Jim - what I should have said is that the red dot indicates which of the AF focus points is the one which is in use - to be used when you want to lock focus before final composition. But don't you get two years warranty in US, as we do in Europe? From the Olympus Europe website: "In addition to the one year World Wide Warranty, issued by Olympus Corporation in Japan, the European warranty, issued by Olympus Imaging Europa GmbH, is valid for two years from the date of purchase, if purchased after 1st April 2004. " Piers -----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols [mailto:jhnichols@lighttube.net] Sent: 04 August 2009 16:30 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question Piers, I may be mistaken, and Oly manuals are a pain to search, but I believe that autofocus, or really focus confirmation, is comfirmed by a green dot in the right margin of the finder. I am using Leica lenses with an adapter, and this particular adapter is not equipped with a chip and contacts to enable focus confirmation. Yes, my lenses do have red dots. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question >I think all you have lost is your bearings, Jim! And I say that from a > position of knowledge - of lost bearings, and much else. > > If the 510 is the same as the 410, the red dot confirms autofocus, not > autoexposure. Assuming you are using 4/3 optics, I guess you might need > to > clean the contacts on body and lens. But if it's the exotic OT optics, > hell > you don't deserve no AF confirmation! Or else you need to clean the same > contacts on your AF-confirm chipped adaptor. > > But as Jez pointed out, others are better placed to opine on red dots - > see > you over on the LUG? > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Nichols [mailto:jhnichols@lighttube.net] > Sent: 04 August 2009 15:28 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: [OM] E-510 Question > > I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty > support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the > center > of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the autoexposure > system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed > change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. > > What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:09:38 2009 Received: (qmail 11782 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:09:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:09:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C1BE180B8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897FE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E9A19EAE1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:09:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8FC19EAAE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:10485 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYMZw-0000ZI-6R for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:09:32 -0500 Message-ID: <4A785D36.5040905@picturepedia.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:09:26 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> <4A773562.7000307@picturepedia.org> <1F0FC67B-3B4A-4531-A3A8-17CBE4BE000B@ThomasClausen.org> <41A02AAD-F7D9-4154-9739-AF94EF46C174@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <41A02AAD-F7D9-4154-9739-AF94EF46C174@threeshoes.net> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:09:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785d42234361076813867 Actually I am holding my judgment on the 17" not because of weight or size but I am wondering if the resolution is too sharp for my eyes, I notice that they seem to get tired more with the macbook than my 24" monitor, but it may be down to other factors. Chris did you change the case yourself, I had my wifes replaced under warranty but now its gone again. IanW Chris Barker wrote: > It's OK, Thomas, I always intended to get the smallest one. I have > just sold my white MacBook, having changed the top case after it > cracked, and bought the smallest MacBook Pro. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:10:28 2009 Received: (qmail 18377 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:10:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:10:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14684E182B0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337F9E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E7534AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE57134AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21B8461BA7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:34:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <9B81278F-A21A-46BB-A416-DF5EACCE6EBF@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:10:18 +0100 References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> <933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3> <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:10:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785d74124841136683642 Jim I have an E-420, but I suspect that the viewfinder information is similar. The red dot in the centre is the "AF targets". One of them lights to show which part of the picture is being focused; successful AF is indicated by the green dot in the information area. Chris On 4 Aug 2009, at 16:29, Jim Nichols wrote: > Piers, > > I may be mistaken, and Oly manuals are a pain to search, but I > believe that > autofocus, or really focus confirmation, is comfirmed by a green dot > in the > right margin of the finder. I am using Leica lenses with an adapter, > and > this particular adapter is not equipped with a chip and contacts to > enable > focus confirmation. Yes, my lenses do have red dots. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:11:17 2009 Received: (qmail 25502 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:11:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:11:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA16CE180CA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE2EE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5229B34AC008 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8CB34AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3BE461BAD for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:35:23 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <63B998EE-ADEE-468D-93E0-1894CAFAB549@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:10:52 +0100 References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3> <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> <41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:11:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785da5237195034211378 Ah, thanks for that warranty titbit, Piers! Chris On 4 Aug 2009, at 17:05, Piers Hemy wrote: > Yep, of course you are right Jim - what I should have said is that > the red > dot indicates which of the AF focus points is the one which is in > use - to > be used when you want to lock focus before final composition. > > But don't you get two years warranty in US, as we do in Europe? From > the > Olympus Europe website: > "In addition to the one year World Wide Warranty, issued by Olympus > Corporation in Japan, the European warranty, issued by Olympus Imaging > Europa GmbH, is valid for two years from the date of purchase, if > purchased > after 1st April 2004. " > > Piers -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:14:20 2009 Received: (qmail 10764 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B9FE1817D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B03E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541334AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:14:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830034AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:14:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYMeS-0007OG-T3 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:14:13 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3><79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols><41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> <63B998EE-ADEE-468D-93E0-1894CAFAB549@threeshoes.net> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:14:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3203DF17345C43EC8958CB65E06C7F8C@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <63B998EE-ADEE-468D-93E0-1894CAFAB549@threeshoes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoVHjs0ZsHy25vWTZSGhsMk+QivqAAAFGGg X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:14:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785e5c137261234514069 I hope you don't need it, Chris! Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chris Barker [mailto:ftog@threeshoes.net] Sent: 04 August 2009 17:11 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question Ah, thanks for that warranty titbit, Piers! Chris On 4 Aug 2009, at 17:05, Piers Hemy wrote: > Yep, of course you are right Jim - what I should have said is that the > red dot indicates which of the AF focus points is the one which is in > use - to be used when you want to lock focus before final composition. > > But don't you get two years warranty in US, as we do in Europe? From > the Olympus Europe website: > "In addition to the one year World Wide Warranty, issued by Olympus > Corporation in Japan, the European warranty, issued by Olympus Imaging > Europa GmbH, is valid for two years from the date of purchase, if > purchased after 1st April 2004. " > > Piers -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:17:47 2009 Received: (qmail 12487 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:17:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DAEE1817D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CBEE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A8919EB2D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DD319EB30 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:17:40 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n74GHbMm011133 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:17:39 GMT Message-ID: <90BF71DEB1034934A002443967707C9A@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3><79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> <41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:17:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:17:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785f2b143832439112457 Piers, The Oly website which I accessed only mentions the one year warranty. I have sent them a query, will see what they say. Thanks. There is something else going on with the red spots. I had always selected center focus only, so the center one was the only one active. However, from time to time, the dot would glow brightly without the shutter release being pressed. I seem to recall that this indicated that the autoexposure system was locked up. A half-press of the shutter release always brought it back to normal. Now, I just frequently do a half-press of the release to be sure all is ok. Autoexposure seems to work correctly. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question > Yep, of course you are right Jim - what I should have said is that the red > dot indicates which of the AF focus points is the one which is in use - to > be used when you want to lock focus before final composition. > > But don't you get two years warranty in US, as we do in Europe? From the > Olympus Europe website: > "In addition to the one year World Wide Warranty, issued by Olympus > Corporation in Japan, the European warranty, issued by Olympus Imaging > Europa GmbH, is valid for two years from the date of purchase, if > purchased > after 1st April 2004. " > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Nichols [mailto:jhnichols@lighttube.net] > Sent: 04 August 2009 16:30 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question > > Piers, > > I may be mistaken, and Oly manuals are a pain to search, but I believe > that > autofocus, or really focus confirmation, is comfirmed by a green dot in > the > right margin of the finder. I am using Leica lenses with an adapter, and > this particular adapter is not equipped with a chip and contacts to enable > focus confirmation. Yes, my lenses do have red dots. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Piers Hemy" > To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question > > >>I think all you have lost is your bearings, Jim! And I say that from a >> position of knowledge - of lost bearings, and much else. >> >> If the 510 is the same as the 410, the red dot confirms autofocus, not >> autoexposure. Assuming you are using 4/3 optics, I guess you might need >> to >> clean the contacts on body and lens. But if it's the exotic OT optics, >> hell >> you don't deserve no AF confirmation! Or else you need to clean the same >> contacts on your AF-confirm chipped adaptor. >> >> But as Jez pointed out, others are better placed to opine on red dots - >> see >> you over on the LUG? >> >> Piers >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Nichols [mailto:jhnichols@lighttube.net] >> Sent: 04 August 2009 15:28 >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Subject: [OM] E-510 Question >> >> I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty >> support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the >> center >> of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the >> autoexposure >> system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed >> change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. >> >> What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:19:04 2009 Received: (qmail 28782 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:19:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:19:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AFFE1817A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068EEE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4319EB30 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA8F19EB2D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1223579fgg.13 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.74.4 with SMTP id w4mr2791816fga.65.1249402738779; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:18:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> <933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3> <79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols> <41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:18:58 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f0c723b28699b439 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908040918w6845e40fj525688c4bcda5605@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:19:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785f78265807801554290 Only some countries in EU have implemented the EU Directive (with 2-yr warranty) into their national law - unfortunately UK is not one of them :-( http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/cons_int/safe_shop/guarantees/CSD_2007_EN_final.pdf br jez On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Piers Hemy wrote: > But don't you get two years warranty in US, as we do in Europe? From the > Olympus Europe website: > "In addition to the one year World Wide Warranty, issued by Olympus > Corporation in Japan, the European warranty, issued by Olympus Imaging > Europa GmbH, is valid for two years from the date of purchase, if purchased > after 1st April 2004. " > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:19:51 2009 Received: (qmail 31247 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:19:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:19:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F19AEDC013 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070CCE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09903610004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53FA3610003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYMjH-0007oy-3i for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:19:11 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:19:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4D04C22AD07F4B1EAA58081AF3DD9385@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoVF7sL8lWYBM3uQ6G6GNkr4gjJ9wAB2HZQ X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:19:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a785fa7170851234514069 Also needs binocular vision :-( Piers -----Original Message----- From: Ian Nichols [mailto:ian.a.nichols@gmail.com] Sent: 04 August 2009 16:25 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't --snip http://iansstereophotography.fotopic.net/ --snip Needs red/cyan or red/green glasses. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:23:15 2009 Received: (qmail 14688 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:23:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:23:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DAAE180B5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B2DE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170FB19E802 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:23:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA84319E7F2 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:23:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090804162310H02001mu1se>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:23:10 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3><79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols><41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3><63B998EE-ADEE-468D-93E0-1894CAFAB549@threeshoes.net> <3203DF17345C43EC8958CB65E06C7F8C@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:21:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:23:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a786073325195034211378 So, I just got my first OM2n (ebay purchase) with lens and Winder 2. The first thing I do is fire the shutter to check it. Batteries are dead and the mirror gets stuck in the up position. Panic! I check the internet and find out how to release the mirror. Ahhhh relief.... Then, I remove the Winder and I start thinking about the missing cap where the winder attaches to the gears. I do an internet search, looking for replacement caps. I am sure many camera owners who use the winder have lost the cap so there must be a large supply of (maybe aftermarket) caps. So, I find a link showing where the cap is supposed to be stored inside the battery compartment of the winder. I check and it is there! Another relief... I know these are "old news" for all of you... but I am learning new things every day :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:33:27 2009 Received: (qmail 31901 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:33:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF028E182C7 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECB2E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594FE34AC00A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:33:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDA534AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:33:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n74GXFjC020707 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:33:15 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <89DA01720E6D4A619C36A55758C8410B@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:31:57 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:33:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7862d7257153900897491 Very interesting! I especially like Paula1.jpg, very nice 3D look. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Nichols" http://iansstereophotography.fotopic.net/ has some examples - Everything from Blaise Castle Estate to Llangynog except Flamborough Head were taken with a pair of 2SPs linked that way. Needs red/cyan or red/green glasses. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 18:41:48 2009 Received: (qmail 28428 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 16:41:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 16:41:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DF9E1822B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DA0E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365DE34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877BA34AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:41:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYN52-00030Z-JN for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:41:40 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:41:11 +0200 Message-ID: <6rog75lo83p8nbpadkdi0gj01jkehu1u01@4ax.com> References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3><79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols><41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3><63B998EE-ADEE-468D-93E0-1894CAFAB549@threeshoes.net> <3203DF17345C43EC8958CB65E06C7F8C@your9ya3hf92n3> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 18:41:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7864cc117669730998309 And you describe it so vividly, George. It makes me feel 30 years younger, when I was learning all these facts of OM life. Only then there was no such thing as the WWW, I had to wait until 1989 for that. I wonder how I have survived! ;-) Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:21:20 -0400, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >So, I just got my first OM2n (ebay purchase) with lens and Winder 2. The >first thing I do is fire the shutter to check it. Batteries are dead and >the mirror gets stuck in the up position. > >Panic! I check the internet and find out how to release the mirror. Ahhhh >relief.... > >Then, I remove the Winder and I start thinking about the missing cap where >the winder attaches to the gears. I do an internet search, looking for >replacement caps. I am sure many camera owners who use the winder have lost >the cap so there must be a large supply of (maybe aftermarket) caps. > >So, I find a link showing where the cap is supposed to be stored inside the >battery compartment of the winder. I check and it is there! Another >relief... > >I know these are "old news" for all of you... but I am learning new things >every day :) > >George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 19:27:32 2009 Received: (qmail 20458 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 17:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 17:27:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E3CE18228 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1C0E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892F434AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D49C34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:27:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30F5C96D4 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:55:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <42C324BA-FC0E-468F-AE33-6E085D257AE9@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A785D36.5040905@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:27:22 +0100 References: <643011.1883.qm@web39807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7648FA.3000506@chucknorcutt.com> <7422FF6B820F46F3872CCD2F60F80B25@home> <4A768865.8080303@picturepedia.org> <6BD1A266-C849-48F3-AD28-BFC9D29F57A1@threeshoes.net> <4A76B04C.5010401@picturepedia.org> <059C5EF3-004F-4B0A-8113-23415BAD8E89@threeshoes.net> <4A773562.7000307@picturepedia.org> <1F0FC67B-3B4A-4531-A3A8-17CBE4BE000B@ThomasClausen.org> <41A02AAD-F7D9-4154-9739-AF94EF46C174@threeshoes.net> <4A785D36.5040905@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 19:27:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a786f84223331234514069 Yes, it's reasonably easy. If you look on the Internet you will find amateur instructions on the Tube etc ... But surely the next one is covered by the warranty as well? This is one reason I decided to sell my little white MacBook and get the aluminium unibody one, once it had been fitted with FireWire. Chris On 4 Aug 2009, at 17:09, SwissPace wrote: > Chris did you change the case yourself, I had my wifes replaced under > warranty but now its gone again. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 19:45:22 2009 Received: (qmail 15668 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 17:45:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 17:45:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56643E1805E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6E7E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467C419F2D0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:45:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9E619F1D8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so3908009bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:45:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.165.77 with SMTP id w13mr778673hbd.36.1249407913307; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:45:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:45:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 19:45:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7873b2151471612113968 2009/8/4 DrT (George Themelis) : > Even electrically synchronized cameras are only synchronized up to 1/125 or > maybe 1/250 if you are lucky (this is considered excellent). I wonder how > well the Olympus will be synchronized given their mechanical activation. > For what you are saying, they seem to be synchronized at 1/30 for the flash. > I hope they go higher, to 1/125 or higher. I'm afraid you've overlooked the small detail that OMs' horizontal travel fabric shutters will synchronise at a maximum of 1/60s. I thought that getting them to synchronise only one stop below that was pretty good, requiring as it does that the shutters both fully open within 1/60s of each other. The experiment you outline above (and which I also did) will tell you which one opens first - connect the flash to the one that opens second, so that the first one is already fully open when the flash goes off. hth. Ian -- Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 19:48:47 2009 Received: (qmail 17427 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 17:48:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 17:48:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECAAE182B0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6202E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9109C34AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4394934AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so5583712ywh.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:48:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.107.20 with SMTP id f20mr10286388anc.14.1249408120425; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 19:48:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78747f146471946193717 http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 20:11:44 2009 Received: (qmail 5986 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 18:11:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 18:11:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A784EDC026 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F9FE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BB734AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF234AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090804181138H05002ivake>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:11:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:10:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 20:11:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7879e0286361234514069 > I'm afraid you've overlooked the small detail that OMs' horizontal > travel fabric shutters will synchronise at a maximum of 1/60s. No, I have not overlooked this fact, which is true for many SLR cameras... Yet synchronization can be better than 1/60. Theoretically, it could be as good as 1/1000. If the shutters are activated at exactly the same instant, then the slits will travel parallel and synchronization can be achieved even at 1/1000. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 20:20:05 2009 Received: (qmail 25249 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 18:20:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 18:20:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEF8E1806B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED73E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9272834AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FE934AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:19:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n74IJseY019489 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:19:56 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:20:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 20:20:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a787bd5227511234514069 As an update on my own question, I will recount what I have learned: 1. A short time ago I discovered that my autofocus system was set to Manual, rather than C-AF. 2. I received feedback from Olympus Support pointing out that there is no red dot when Manual is selected. 3. I reset the system to C-AF and all appears normal. 4. I can only assume that something that I did while using Live View yesterday caused the system to change to Manual. I previously learned that C-AF will not work in Live View. Thanks for all of the comments. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: [OM] E-510 Question >I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty >support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the center >of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the autoexposure >system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed >change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. > > What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 20:47:06 2009 Received: (qmail 6316 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 18:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 18:47:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E10E182B0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66483E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB1934AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:46:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4884734AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:46:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3414960fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.205 with SMTP id 13mr713096hbs.168.1249411617061; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:46:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a341a098b5e9171f Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 20:47:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78822a35059752976205 Joel, those day lily photographs (especially x325)look like they were shot on Velvia. You're not holding out on us, are you? :) Very nicely done. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 21:53:29 2009 Received: (qmail 24084 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 19:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 19:53:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C321EE182B1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5E8E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255B34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F42143610002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so5717004ywh.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.4.9 with SMTP id 9mr10402945and.147.1249415600363; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:53:20 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908041253n456fb8aer9e64b4bc82da57ba@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 21:53:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7891b9274831073733319 On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > Joel, those day lily photographs (especially x325)look like they were shot > on Velvia. You're not holding out on us, are you? =A0:) Thanks for looking. That one and the two close by look way overcooked on this LCD monitor (but it's a piece of junk). Still, I think my old CRT at home is getting soft. My Velvia project begins after The Kodachrome Project #15. Two possibly interesting things about this set. The initial architectural shots were made with the 24/shift. Some of the lilies were shot with 50/1.2 and the closer ones were likely shot with the 85/2 + 7mm tube a la John Lind's "poor man's 90/2" macro setup -- likely examples being 326 and 329 (I say "likely" because I didn't write anything down, my bad). Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 23:07:19 2009 Received: (qmail 25889 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 21:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 21:07:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5E4E182B0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189AE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D3E34AC008 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D304534AC005 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:07:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web09-z02 ([10.127.132.160]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090804210710141.BXPF8326@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:07:10 +0000 Message-ID: <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:07:10 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Brian Swale Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 23:07:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78a30775875683411216 Well, I'm bowing out of this discussion 'cause there's nothing more I have to say, except that Brian, you completely missed my point. You said digital doesn't cut the mustard for landscapes. I said I had been to Caponigro's gallery and seen the prints of his trip. Paper: Epson Ultra Smooth Fine Art. Printer: Epson 9900. Camera: Canon 5D Mk II. He made a point that the images were not altered. They are, he said, "editorial" images. Yes, he's known for altered landscapes. But my points were that the landscapes I saw were not altered, that they were digital, and that they more than cut the mustard. The idea is to do what makes you happy. Shoot with what fulfills you. But whatch those all-encompassing sweeping statements. I know, 'cause I make enough of them myself. --Bob ---- Brian Swale wrote: > > Bob Whitmire drew my attention to JP Caponigro's site ( > http://www.johnpaulcaponigro.com/index.php ) and his Antarctic photos > which are all digital. On his site he says he uses Canon 5Ds Mark II, > Canon 1Ds Mark II, Canon 1Ds, Canon 28-135 IS lens, Canon 100-400 IS > lens, and Canon 2X extender. > > I found very few of his Antarctic shots, but I noticed that many of the shots > he exhibits on his site are greatly modified using Photoshop, and he > employs staff to do this. Much of his work in my opinion would best be > described as photo art ( of very talented quality, I hasten to add). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 23:41:44 2009 Received: (qmail 23946 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 21:41:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 21:41:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4CBE180B5 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA43E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800D619FD13 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9F919FD0D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3498554fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:41:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.6 with SMTP id l6mr881137hbb.47.1249422096801; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:41:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:41:36 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a117599522639e0e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 23:41:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78ab18326001744846740 We must, of course separate the photographer, subject and location from the technology. I'm sure that I could make a decent body of work in an exotic location in exotic light with what I have too. But the fact is, I'm not anywhere near as good as JPC in any way photographically. I'm just a half-talented hack. My only real contribution to the photographic arts is being able to engineer weird unneeded solutions to non-existent problems. I don't understand the negative tone of this thread. This really isn't about technology, but about the perception of manipulation. Once my film is processed, either I manipulate the image in the darkroom or in the computer--no different than a digital-camera image. But for argument sake, I'd be the best photographer in the world if it wasn't for the inferior digital sensors and small-format film I use. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 23:47:05 2009 Received: (qmail 10305 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 21:47:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 21:47:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE53E18066 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12290E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD35E34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A935034AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sproul3-55-74.ucr.edu (sproul3-55-74.ucr.edu [138.23.55.74]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id GSQ10866 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <0A3BC29D-AC09-4D20-A729-9CE2C75B927B@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:46:57 -0700 References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 23:47:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78ac59238812013633067 On Aug 4, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > But for argument sake, I'd be the best photographer in the world if it > wasn't for the inferior digital sensors and small-format film I use. Time to move up to the CaniKon camp, then! /s -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 4 23:57:00 2009 Received: (qmail 17940 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 21:56:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 21:56:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87276E18062 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BEEE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D183F19FD5E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A7319FD5D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3504881fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:56:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.149.6 with SMTP id h6mr637658hbb.126.1249423012394; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:56:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:56:52 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 4 23:57:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78aeac177461950411718 2009/8/4 DrT (George Themelis) : >> I'm afraid you've overlooked the small detail that OMs' horizontal >> travel fabric shutters will synchronise at a maximum of 1/60s. > > No, I have not overlooked this fact, which is true for many SLR cameras... > Yet synchronization can be better than 1/60. =A0Theoretically, it could b= e as > good as 1/1000. =A0If the shutters are activated at exactly the same inst= ant, > then the slits will travel parallel and synchronization can be achieved e= ven > at 1/1000. Sorry, my mistake, got stuck on the notion of synchronising 2 cameras and a flash. I see now - you meant putting one camera in front of the other, not looking through both side-by side. -- = Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 00:10:47 2009 Received: (qmail 12871 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 22:10:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 22:10:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE94DE18067 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8214E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A147334AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:10:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB8934AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:10:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.25]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.59.151] (151.59.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.59.151]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC253DA798; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:10:24 +1200 (NZST) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:09:06 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4A795A42.24893.48739B@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz>, <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 04/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: bwhitmire@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 00:10:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78b1e7209736107113666 Mainly to Bob Whitmire; but "Hi" to all, Bob, I wasn't ignoring your e-mail, I was considering how to reply. The global time differences don't help; I went to bed at 2am having spent more than 2 hours reading all the responses in the digest, and assimilating what I had been told by everybody, then composing a reply; but you would perhaps not have realised the hours I kept; nor that I have not long ago been woken up at 8am by the phone call from a stranger. Not enough sleep. The Digest arrives in my computer usually some time after 10.30 pm. I could not find any of Caponigro's Antarctica images on his site for me to make an opinion of my own. And having not seen them I was also unaware also that they had not been altered digitally. Yes, I know how well prints can look. I visited the travelling Ansel Adams exhibition just a few years ago (but I think the prints of the same images published in the corresponding book, which I have, are better), and I went to a local gallery 10 weeks ago to look at the exhibition of large mounted prints by Andris Apse. Perhaps it would have been more accurate for me to have written that I am quite disappointed in what I have managed to create with the digital Olympus gear I bought in the expectation of a certain standard of excellence. I first really noticed problems, with the blown-out rendering of well-lit autumn leaves, just a couple of months back, and I began looking more closely after that. It is clear I'm not all that good at using the gear either; I bought the E-3 (when it became available at a huge discount) in a fit of extreme annoyance with the E-510 I had bought not all that long before, because in an instant during a shooting session one afternoon the settings altered to produce images so dark that they were (and are) useless. I was unaware of this at the time and didn't realise something had happened until well away from the scene and opportunity. I'm still not sure what happened except I am suspicious of the buttons on the back that sit where my thumb also does, all too often. I don't plan to continue the thread in the Olympus group though I will probably ask people for guidance on procedures I am ignorant of; such as CH Ling pointing out that with RAW file editors it is possible to change the white balance. I think I have taken more than enough of the group attention for a while. However, on the other hand, I found it very useful to get alternative "take" on the topic by very capable photographers such as Ken Norton to name one, as well. Thanks for your letters. Brian Date sent: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:07:10 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example Copies to: Brian Swale > Well, I'm bowing out of this discussion 'cause there's nothing more > I have to say, except that Brian, you completely missed my point. > You said digital doesn't cut the mustard for landscapes. I said I > had been to Caponigro's gallery and seen the prints of his trip. > Paper: Epson Ultra Smooth Fine Art. Printer: Epson 9900. Camera: > Canon 5D Mk II. He made a point that the images were not altered. > They are, he said, "editorial" images. Yes, he's known for altered > landscapes. But my points were that the landscapes I saw were not > altered, that they were digital, and that they more than cut the > mustard. > > The idea is to do what makes you happy. Shoot with what fulfills > you. But whatch those all-encompassing sweeping statements. I know, > 'cause I make enough of them myself. > > --Bob > > > ---- Brian Swale wrote: > > > > > Bob Whitmire drew my attention to JP Caponigro's site ( > > http://www.johnpaulcaponigro.com/index.php ) and his Antarctic > photos > > which are all digital. On his site he says he uses Canon 5Ds Mark > II, > > Canon 1Ds Mark II, Canon 1Ds, Canon 28-135 IS lens, Canon 100-400 > IS > > lens, and Canon 2X extender. > > > > I found very few of his Antarctic shots, but I noticed that many > of the shots > > he exhibits on his site are greatly modified using Photoshop, and > he > > employs staff to do this. Much of his work in my opinion would > best be > > described as photo art ( of very talented quality, I hasten to > add). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 00:53:54 2009 Received: (qmail 10462 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 22:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 22:53:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC378EDC007 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368B8E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190B534AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BDE34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jtimpe@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QJuo1c0031afHeLA7NtpgZ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:53:49 +0000 Received: from sz0047.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.99]) by OMTA17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QNtp1c00j28HZcC8dNtpC4; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:53:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:53:49 +0000 (UTC) From: JTimpe@comcast.net To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <166766210.7128451249426429512.JavaMail.root@sz0047a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [67.183.212.99] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 00:53:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78bc0273416107113666 >Thanks for all of the comments. >Jim Nichols >Tullahoma, TN USA Shoot, except for the 'non OM' nature, this is one of the longer on topic threads in a while. We owe you thanks. Another Jim (Timpe) Snohomish (Maltby), WA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 00:55:16 2009 Received: (qmail 29237 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 22:55:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 22:55:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB32EDC01A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08960E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0AA19FE33 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:55:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD98419FE30 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:55:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4050624bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:55:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.194 with SMTP id 2mr853178hbk.100.1249426505367; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:55:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A795A42.24893.48739B@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> <4A795A42.24893.48739B@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:55:05 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5f58c99568f43a53 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 00:55:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78bc54178831073733319 > > Perhaps it would have been more accurate for me to have written that I am > quite disappointed in what I have managed to create with the digital > Olympus gear I bought in the expectation of a certain standard of > excellence. I first really noticed problems, with the blown-out rendering > of > well-lit autumn leaves, just a couple of months back, and I began looking > more closely after that. > This particular type of lighting and subject matter is the single-biggest buggabear with digital. What you are running into is the out-of-gamut conditions where one of the three color-channels is blowing out or is at the point where the colorspace itself is unable to adequately handle the colors. This is also an issue when scanning slides that have these colors too! I've worked with various colorspaces to help matters, but the only solution I've found that will adequately address the issue with a digital camera is to underexpose the scene by up to two stops and then boost the exposure during RAW conversion. Fortunately, Olympus RAW files (especially from the Kodak-sensored cameras) handle boosting quite well whereas Canon files are better at being pulled down in exposure. In essence, with most digital cameras you "expose to the right", but in this type of scene--especially with Olympus cameras, you "expose to the left". Frankly, I've gotten my best pictures in these conditions when I use an ambient-dome hand-held meter and expose for the mid-tone. Just remember, the center of the histogram is NOT exactly a mid-tone. :) I'm still not sure what happened except I am > suspicious of the buttons on the back that sit where my thumb also does, > all too often. > I would HIGHLY recommend that you use the "Custom Reset" feature and use it always. As the E-3 only has two user resets, program one as your ISO 100 "Provia" setting, and the other as something like a ISO 400 with auto-WB setting. My younger daughter used the E-1 quite a bit during the vacation, and I had #4 setup for her and #1 for me. It took me two seconds to change the camera from one entire configuration to another. Best of all, when using the Custom Reset function (memory recall for those who don't understand Olympus lingo), you can get all whacky with exposure compensations, aperture adjustments, custom WB settings and all that, but a press-spin-release and I'm back to my start-point again. No need to figure out what you have to do to get the camera back to normal. > I don't plan to continue the thread in the Olympus group though I will > probably ask people for guidance on procedures I am ignorant of; such as > CH Ling pointing out that with RAW file editors it is possible to change > the > white balance. I think I have taken more than enough of the group attention > for a while. Actually, your inquiries are fine. There are many things about these cameras that may seem awefully strange (and usually are), but surprisingly there are some incredible back-door features (like the Custom Resets) that address concerns and make life easy. > However, on the other hand, I found it very useful to get > alternative "take" on the topic by very capable photographers such as Ken > Norton to name one, as well. > Thare are a number of us, I'm just one whacked out guy which likes to irk Chuck and Moose once in a while. :) The last two years of Olympus E-system cameras--especially the E-3, have gotten very very complex in their menus, handling and choices. Instead of doing what the other makers have done and just added values to a given field (in the menus), they have attempted to remake the menus. Instead of forcing all adjustments through a singular menu interface (which would be simpler, but time-consuming), Olympus has given us multiple ways of adjusting certain things. But my times spent with the E-3 have left me flustered. An example of the complexity, yet extreme simplicity, of the Olympus interface is the image review function. The E-1 (and other E-system bodies) is equipped with the "Play" button, but the dreaded "Info" button. Reviewers groused heavily about how many button presses and wheel spins it took to see the histogram. That was only true the first time. Once set to the histogram view, all you'd have to do is just press the "Info" button on the reviewed image and the histogram would appear. Yet, for other applications (like event portrait-sessions which you are ripping off hundreds of portraits in minutes) you don't give a rip about the histogram, you want to know what file-name or image-number the keeper is so you can tell your assistant which one goes with which person. Again, once set, just a single press of the info button recalls this vital information. The point is, that the E-system cameras are designed for repeatability. You can set or configure the camera for a specific type of usage and the camera will stay there unless you specifically change it. Unfortunately, as with all digital cameras, it is too easy to change something without realizing it. If you are having issues with the buttons around the thumb area, by all means go into the setup menus and start reassigning them to be something more to your liking. I have my rear dial set for exposure compensation in all but manual mode. The AEL button can be set either toggle or press-and-hold or something else altogether. I have said this before and I'll repeat it again and again. It takes AT LEAST 600 pictures with a digital camera before you even have a clue where to go for even the most basic features and are relatively comfortable with it. I'm well over 40,000 on my E-1 and there are still menu options I have no clue how to use. Maybe someday I'll figure out what all is in the Wrench #1 menu. I'm just pretending that Wrench #2 doesn't exist. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 01:17:37 2009 Received: (qmail 19624 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 23:17:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 23:17:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A256EDC01D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B838E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555C019FE87 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:17:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE7F19FE86 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:17:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so2138640anc.35 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:17:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.95.15 with SMTP id s15mr10684186anb.88.1249427850142; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:17:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> <4A795A42.24893.48739B@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:17:30 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908041617y534142cfsfae81138b315b7ba@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 01:17:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78c191295601744846740 On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > The last two years of Olympus E-system cameras--especially the E-3, have > gotten very very complex in their menus, handling and choices. =A0Instead= of > doing what the other makers have done and just added values to a given fi= eld > (in the menus), they have attempted to remake the menus. Instead of forci= ng > all adjustments through a singular menu interface (which would be simpler, > but time-consuming), Olympus has given us multiple ways of adjusting cert= ain > things. =A0But my times spent with the E-3 have left me flustered. That's interesting. I've found little need to dig around in the detailed menus because I get just about everything done with the buttons/dials and the quick menu on the LCD. For some reason I feel less need for the custom reset feature as a result (I haven't even set it up on the E-3 yet). I also think shooting RAW actually makes the "camera wrastling" less of a chore. Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 01:35:11 2009 Received: (qmail 15198 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 23:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 23:35:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE781E180CD for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF77E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ADB19FEB3 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:35:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D1B19FEA8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090804233503H030024ar4e>; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:35:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:30:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 01:35:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78c5af41936789618724 > Sorry, my mistake, got stuck on the notion of synchronising 2 cameras > and a flash. I see now - you meant putting one camera in front of the > other, not looking through both side-by side. Yes, that's right.... By putting the cameras in front of each other and observing the afterimage of the combined shutter openings when they fire, you can tell how well they are synchronized, and you can do this at various speeds. There was a couple of well-known stereo photographers (two brothers) who synchronized two mechanical cameras (not Olympus) using relays which were electrically activated and mechanically pressed the camera shutters. They claimed perfect synchronization and, to prove it, took pictures of action sports events in the Winter Olympics many years ago. The Olympus Winder 2 system is similar to using relays. I wonder if it is possible to make very small adjustments by slightly bending the pins that activates the shutters... George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 01:55:11 2009 Received: (qmail 15326 invoked by uid 0); 4 Aug 2009 23:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 4 Aug 2009 23:55:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB1FE18069 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDA8E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50D01A0299 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219071A004A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so7021112gxk.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:55:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.212.15 with SMTP id k15mr14209392ybg.293.1249430104549; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:55:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:55:04 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c9921886a284246a Message-ID: <60f983080908041655m15d71364vedca8ceaaeed6e3c@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 01:55:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78ca5f216321413256596 Joel, I like them very much!!! Nice shots. My friend gave 1 roll of Kodakchrome but waiting good weather to shoot. By the way, is there development in USA only? --- Michael 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 03:25:02 2009 Received: (qmail 12812 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 01:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 01:25:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D336E182B3 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA66E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4D51CD485 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4E81CD481 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f218.google.com (mail-fx0-f218.google.com [209.85.220.218]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3567545fxm.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:24:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.178.195 with SMTP id a3mr875996hbg.39.1249435491674; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:24:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908041617y534142cfsfae81138b315b7ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> <20090804210710.Z8WYV.118997.root@cdptpa-web09-z02> <4A795A42.24893.48739B@bj.caverock.net.nz> <9e908c1f0908041617y534142cfsfae81138b315b7ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:24:51 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 052ec743ceb196c2 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 03:25:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78df6e173953900897491 > > That's interesting. I've found little need to dig around in the > detailed menus because I get just about everything done with the > buttons/dials and the quick menu on the LCD. For some reason I feel > less need for the custom reset feature as a result (I haven't even set > it up on the E-3 yet). I also think shooting RAW actually makes the > "camera wrastling" less of a chore. > The "all inclusive" status/settings screen really is outstanding and I agree that it minimizes dancing the "Menu Mash". This was one of the things I was referring to about the multiple methods to accomplish the same task. Whether reviewers will admit it or not, Olympus really did do a good job setting that screen up, but it still doesn't give you a customized baseline for returning a camera and all settings back to a user-defined norm. But then again, I've been bit a time or two with the OM bodies, because of a mis-dialed exposure-compensation or a shutter-speed ring set to red-60... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 03:26:46 2009 Received: (qmail 1292 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 01:26:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 01:26:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33433E18255 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE97E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B879134AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:26:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A3834AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:26:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4092692bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:26:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.181.10 with SMTP id k10mr809052hbg.166.1249435599566; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:26:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908041253n456fb8aer9e64b4bc82da57ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0908041253n456fb8aer9e64b4bc82da57ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:26:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e04b2cd4b61ab31c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 03:26:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78dfd6293091234514069 > > My Velvia project begins after The Kodachrome Project #15. > So, when can we get together to do a simultaneous Kodachrome/Provia Project? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 03:56:06 2009 Received: (qmail 27370 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 01:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 01:56:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C12AE182B3 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F34BE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF6734AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:56:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D49D34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:56:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so6064599ywh.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:56:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.212.16 with SMTP id k16mr10906019ang.184.1249437360885; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:56:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080908041655m15d71364vedca8ceaaeed6e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908041655m15d71364vedca8ceaaeed6e3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908041856gafe717dvdaf72582222bdc64@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 03:56:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78e6b6184301234514069 Thanks Michael. It is my understanding that the only lab processing Kodachrome is in Parsons, Kansas, USA (Dwayne's Photo). They have a web site. Kodachrome is very nice for flowers, people, and almost anything in early and late light. Joel W. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Michael Wong wrote: > Joel, > I like them very much!!! > > Nice shots. > > My friend gave 1 roll of Kodakchrome but waiting good weather to shoot. By > the way, is there development in USA only? > > > --- > Michael > > > > 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ >> >> Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 03:58:26 2009 Received: (qmail 22296 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 01:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 01:58:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B0EE18178 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02E5E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C245334AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:58:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD9B34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:58:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 18:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4100913bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:58:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.6 with SMTP id l6mr905000hbb.47.1249437497535; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:58:17 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e44695544ba4064d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 03:58:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78e742239271946193717 Restaurant alert. We enjoyed a fabulous meal in Kansas City this Sunday. I've always sought out good Indian food and found nearly all Indian restaurants to be lacking in some areas. It is extremely disappointing to order a curry item and have it so bland as to be tasteless. In my opinion, a spicy item should be spicy, not taste like a Saltine cracker. In the USA, I had found only one restaurant in New Jersey that made things even reasonably close to the way I know it should be done--but even that had been Americanized. I've had world-class Indian cuisine in England as well as Amsterdam as well as served in private homes by highly-trained Indian cooks, but in the USA, every Indian restaurant experience has been a supreme disappointment. I'm a hack at making Indian food, but can usually do better than most of the restaurants. Until now. The place is called "SWAGAT" and is located in the "Zona Rosa Center" up off I-29 and Highway 152. The atmosphere is a cross between "casual dining" and Indian Restaurant. Unfortunately, the spread lacked some of the finer desert items that are usually available, but the food was absolutely exceptional. It was done right! The spicing was perfect. Everything was not only spiced correctly (it had attitude), but was cooked to perfection. It was reference material. So, for my ratings: Location: Five Lens-Caps (Zona Rosa Center is terrific) Atmosphere: Three Lens-Caps (A little too "formatted" inside, not enough idiosyncrasies to keep me entertained, but it smelled authentic) Price: Four Lens-Caps (Typical "casual dining" prices, but lacked some options) Cleanliness: Five Lens-Caps Service: Four Lens-Caps Food: Five Lens-Caps Selection: Three Lens-Caps (needed more options for weak-stomached Caucasians) Customers: Four Lens-Caps (half were Indians, the rest clueless white-people wanting to appear hip) Overall, SWAGAT receives the Schnozz's coveted "Five Lens-Caps" award. AG (reviews anything and everything) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:01:12 2009 Received: (qmail 3151 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:01:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:01:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E80DE18174 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D856E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0A51CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:01:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727E81CD485 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:01:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19842 invoked by uid 504); 5 Aug 2009 02:01:02 -0000 Received: from pa-67-234-168-93.dhcp.embarqhsd.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@67.234.168.93) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Aug 2009 02:01:02 -0000 Message-ID: <4A78E7DD.9000000@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:01:01 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:01:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78e7e890376107113666 I would consider continuous auto focus an unusual selection. Sure that's what you want? Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > As an update on my own question, I will recount what I have learned: > 1. A short time ago I discovered that my autofocus system was set to Manual, > rather than C-AF. > 2. I received feedback from Olympus Support pointing out that there is no > red dot when Manual is selected. > 3. I reset the system to C-AF and all appears normal. > 4. I can only assume that something that I did while using Live View > yesterday caused the system to change to Manual. I previously learned > that C-AF will not work in Live View. > > Thanks for all of the comments. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Nichols" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:28 AM > Subject: [OM] E-510 Question > > >> I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty >> support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the center >> of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the autoexposure >> system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed >> change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. >> >> What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:03:35 2009 Received: (qmail 16565 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:03:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:03:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9908E1822D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BB9E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8365C34AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1DF34AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21150 invoked by uid 504); 5 Aug 2009 02:03:29 -0000 Received: from pa-67-234-168-93.dhcp.embarqhsd.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@67.234.168.93) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 5 Aug 2009 02:03:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4A78E870.4010008@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:03:28 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090804-1, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] another Pen F Service question... 60mm f1.5 aperture X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:03:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78e877153936789618724 It sounds to me like the inner part of the ring and the detent ball need to be cleaned and lubed. But that doesn't tell you how to get to the ring. Chuck Norcutt iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Hello everybody, > > after succesful recalibration of my Pen FT meter by carefull wigling > of the speed knob, > I'm looking for a solution to a problem my 60mm f1.5 developed: > > The aperture ring is stiff between f4 and F11, aperture is dry and snappy. > It is an FT lens so with the reversible scale. I have an exploded view diagramm > from the book of John Foster (biofos), but that shows the first "F > version" of the lens. > > Question is how to get at the ring? I suppose a carefull cleaning of > the inner parts > of the ring will do, but don't know how to get at it (and I'm not in a > mood to experiment > with this lens :) > > Many thanks for any advice, > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:08:29 2009 Received: (qmail 26391 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:08:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:08:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD4FE181B1 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3A9E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191871CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A991CD485 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4103592bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:08:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.69 with SMTP id 5mr920606hbu.4.1249438102184; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:08:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:08:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3dedca00720d5ef1 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:08:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78e99d288751612113968 Oh, and their website is: www.visitswagat.com I know this means little to those outside the USA, but for those of us in the USA that like high quality Indian food, it's an art-form finding top-notch places. Besides, I know that there are a few of us within driving distance of this place and the potential for a Zuikofest always exists. Since my recommendations for LC's was met with disdain since the neighborhood is questionable for camera-toting white guys at night, SWAGAT could make a nice alternative as it is located in the upscale Zona Rosa Center out near the airport. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:25:17 2009 Received: (qmail 2393 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:25:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:25:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32534EDC00F for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91569E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591E21CD481 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:25:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4BC1CD485 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:25:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail.superhosting.ca (mail.superhosting.ca [69.90.83.197]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32639 invoked by uid 399); 5 Aug 2009 02:10:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BT4) (ownvolition111@ownvolition.com@65.103.55.229) by mail.superhosting.ca with ESMTPAM; 5 Aug 2009 02:10:59 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 65.103.55.229 Message-ID: <003001ca1573$f03073d0$82331eac@BT4> From: "Michael Collins" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:25:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:25:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78ed8d117576107113666 > Besides, I know that there are a few of us within driving distance of this > place and the potential for a Zuikofest always exists. Looks like about 5 hours driving to me. Bit much for a weekend, if I'd be expected to operate an E-3 semi-competently as well :-) . Michael -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:29:05 2009 Received: (qmail 537 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:29:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F00EDC011 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2699E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4F134AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A68434AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4108729bwz.14 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:28:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.6 with SMTP id l6mr907661hbb.47.1249439338727; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:28:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <003001ca1573$f03073d0$82331eac@BT4> References: <003001ca1573$f03073d0$82331eac@BT4> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:28:58 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ce14e3275431ce77 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:29:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78ee71142416789618724 Michael Collins wrote: > > Looks like about 5 hours driving to me. Bit much for a weekend, if I'd be > expected to operate an E-3 semi-competently as well :-) . > Ah, but since you are visiting the Iowa, you are actually just a few minutes from a couple of us list-members already. I'm sure we can arrange for Pizza. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:32:42 2009 Received: (qmail 23353 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:32:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:32:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1964E1817D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AAAE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423931CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F151CD481 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:32:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a78ef443a8; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:32:36 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d5e.5422abea (37547) for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-de03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.170]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB028-b2524a78ef3e135; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:32:30 -0400 Received: from FWM-M21 (fwm-m21.webmail.aol.com [64.12.168.85]) by smtprly-de03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE036-b2524a78ef3e135; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:32:30 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:32:30 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by FWM-M21.sysops.aol.com (64.12.168.85) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:32:30 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE38C1D2D98C3-D80-F14@FWM-M21.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:32:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78ef4a125731234514069 Nice Daylilies! Some attractive hybrids, well shot. Thanks for posting. I hope you get to hybridize a few yourself. We have only a few late bloomers--"Autumn Blaze" has already started. I had given it explicit directions to wait for Moose. Mike http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ Joel W. -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 04:37:40 2009 Received: (qmail 470 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 02:37:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 02:37:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A28E18060 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE19E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B5734AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0FD34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n752bUjw004275 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:37:33 GMT Message-ID: <260FDCD0135F46B2A9BACE80E96CC135@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols> <4A78E7DD.9000000@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:37:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 04:37:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a78f074222501879814018 Hi Chuck, I set it up that way over a year ago, and now, I'm beginning to rethink it. The manual is not too clear on the advantages and disadvantages of the choices. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question >I would consider continuous auto focus an unusual selection. Sure > that's what you want? > > Chuck Norcutt > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> As an update on my own question, I will recount what I have learned: >> 1. A short time ago I discovered that my autofocus system was set to >> Manual, >> rather than C-AF. >> 2. I received feedback from Olympus Support pointing out that there is no >> red dot when Manual is selected. >> 3. I reset the system to C-AF and all appears normal. >> 4. I can only assume that something that I did while using Live View >> yesterday caused the system to change to Manual. I previously >> learned >> that C-AF will not work in Live View. >> >> Thanks for all of the comments. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jim Nichols" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:28 AM >> Subject: [OM] E-510 Question >> >> >>> I have been using my E-510 for 15 months, so I must assume that warranty >>> support has expired. Yesterday, I noticed that the "red dot" in the >>> center >>> of the viewfinder, which normally indicates the status of the >>> autoexposure >>> system, no longer lights up. In "A" mode, I can see the shutter speed >>> change with changes in light, and a few test images appear to be normal. >>> >>> What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? >>> >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 05:50:59 2009 Received: (qmail 15363 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 03:50:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 03:50:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B629AEDC028 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BE6E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203EB1A050E for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:50:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C7B1A0510 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:50:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so2195471anc.35 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:50:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.48.8 with SMTP id v8mr9793012anv.84.1249444247556; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:50:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBE38C1D2D98C3-D80-F14@FWM-M21.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBE38C1D2D98C3-D80-F14@FWM-M21.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:50:47 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908042050u508734ebwd2df03c4e7449767@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 05:50:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7901a3282151946193717 On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:32 PM, wrote: > Nice Daylilies! =A0Some attractive hybrids, well shot. =A0Thanks for > posting. > I hope you get to hybridize a few yourself. Thanks Mike. I hope so too. > We have only a few late bloomers--"Autumn Blaze" has already started. > I had given it explicit directions to wait for Moose. > Mike I'll assume Moose like to eat them. Deer like to eat them hereabouts. ;^) Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 06:33:39 2009 Received: (qmail 19582 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 04:33:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 04:33:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE767EDC044 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383DE240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA241CD481 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:33:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C30E1CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n754XVj8029961 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:33:31 +1000 Message-Id: <200908050433.n754XVj8029961@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:33:31 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:33:31 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 06:33:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a790ba3285371342116753 > Jim Nichols wrote: > > What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? > Leica compatibility ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 06:38:32 2009 Received: (qmail 8762 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 04:38:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 04:38:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D3EEDC033 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26491E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03C034AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:38:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1387634AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:38:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:38:25 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n754cJos007919 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:38:22 GMT Message-ID: <28898EEEDAAC4B4A96447829C15F99E2@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200908050433.n754XVj8029961@mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:38:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 06:38:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a790cc8123145368819438 Nope. Leica-R lenses still work fine. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [OM] E-510 Question > > > > >> Jim Nichols wrote: >> >> What, exactly, have I lost with the disappearance of this red dot? >> > > Leica compatibility ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 06:46:32 2009 Received: (qmail 11347 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 04:46:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 04:46:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71007EDC014 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED61E240BE for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B98734AC004 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:46:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DB034AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:46:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dallasgossfamily@tx.rr.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [76.184.57.145]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090805044625859.JLKQ18482@cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com> for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:46:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4A790E57.3020701@tx.rr.com> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:45:11 -0500 From: Steve & Alicia Goss User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] olympus Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 06:46:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a790ea8154421950411718 Chris- Digital may not be quite there for you, but for what I shoot, It's great. Most of my shots are informal Dad & Daughter portraits, and group shots. (see , the shots with file names that start with an underscore and then a number, in albums like 6th rock climb 1, 7 Canoe 1, 5th Canoe 1, Sweetheart Banquet, Winter 2009) I started doing these with film, but found that I was spending a lot on film & processing. Plus I really like having a great zoom (14-54) that will focus itself. I haven't given up on film entirely though, I still shoot a roll of Kodachrome or two around Christmastime. Thanks, Steve Goss, Dallas Tx usa Chris Crawford wrote: Digital is certainly good enough if you have the deep pockets that people like J.P. Caponigro have. He's likely using a Canon EOS 1DsIII, maybe even a medium format digital system. I know he uses Canon for a lot of his work. For those of us who cannot afford $8000 camera bodies, digital still isn't quite there. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 07:33:28 2009 Received: (qmail 16959 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 05:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 05:33:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56850E182C8 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71E5E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAB11CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:33:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C877A1CD488 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:33:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AD4461C4F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:57:51 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <32F82CA6-38AC-4D7C-B52E-402B6607FC27@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:33:18 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 07:33:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7919a8266021879814018 I look forward to the day, Ken: a Zuikofest near Kansas City :-) But that restaurant has the common problem with spiciness, it seems to me. It calls the Vindaloo "***hot", but that dish is not meant to be hot. It's a gentle dish, cooked for a reasonable amount of time with several spices but it's not supposed to be hot. In the UK most curry houses have it as hot as well, just because the Brits have come to expect it like that ... Chris On 5 Aug 2009, at 03:08, Ken Norton wrote: > Oh, and their website is: > www.visitswagat.com > > I know this means little to those outside the USA, but for those of > us in > the USA that like high quality Indian food, it's an art-form finding > top-notch places. > > Besides, I know that there are a few of us within driving distance > of this > place and the potential for a Zuikofest always exists. Since my > recommendations for LC's was met with disdain since the neighborhood > is > questionable for camera-toting white guys at night, SWAGAT could > make a nice > alternative as it is located in the upscale Zona Rosa Center out > near the > airport. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 07:40:14 2009 Received: (qmail 26369 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 05:40:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 05:40:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7837EDC04A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B69E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E553034AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CD734AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n755e657027927 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:40:06 +1000 Message-Id: <200908050540.n755e657027927@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:40:06 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:40:06 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 07:40:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a791b3e10101950411718 > DrT \(George Themelis\) wrote: > > > So, I find a link showing where the cap is supposed to be stored inside > the > battery compartment of the winder. I check and it is there! Another > relief... > > I know these are "old news" for all of you... but I am learning new > things > every day :) > There is a small company (maybe just 1 bloke), Beljan Manufacturing that makes replacement caps (and other stuff) and occasionally sells on that big auction site. Excellent products and great service. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 07:44:57 2009 Received: (qmail 16516 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 05:44:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 05:44:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB41EDC016 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19DE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861951CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AA01CD481 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:44:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n755incA014828 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:44:50 +1000 Message-Id: <200908050544.n755incA014828@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:44:49 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:44:49 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 07:44:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a791c59160016789618724 > Joel Wilcox wrote: > > (I say "likely" because I didn't > write anything down, my bad). > ...and you couldn't find it in the EXIF data ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 07:47:18 2009 Received: (qmail 23633 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 05:47:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 05:47:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C875EDC03D for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B629DE240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4021CD486 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8821B1CD48B for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:47:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:59:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:47:00 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 07:47:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a791ce6315191234514069 Thanks, glad you like my (what I though was rather mundane) image :-) I agree that your upscaled 5D MkII image is not that far off from my Mamiya scan, and to answer your last question/statement, B&W film (Ilford) is a heck of a lot more grainy than digital, or Provia or Ektar colour film. When I scan Provia to the same dimensions, there is just absolutely no (nada, zip) grain. I also find that colour slide film (ISO 100) has vastly more resolution than ISO 100 black and white film - not sure why this is? One apparently has to use Pan F to match the resolution and (not even then) the smoothnes of Provia 100F. I must say, I am thrilled that a scan on a cheap-ish flatbed from my Mamiya negatives beat a very high-res DSLR like the 5DII. However, when you look at a 16x20 wet print from this same negative, or a high-end scan on e.g. a Flextight, it will be some time yet until any one-shot digital capture matches it. However, while the resolution is nice, the sole reason I am messing around with B&W is because of the tonality, I have a carefully made digital capture of that exact same scene (EF 50mm f/1.2L at optimum diffraction-limited aperture, mirror lockup, ESO 1DMkIIN) and the look is just totally different, and I really love wet-printing. Once it gets old, I am sure I will be thrilled with what contemporary digital provides then. P.S. Your image has again awakened the need within myself to get an OM 35/2.0 lens! The quality is highly impressive, I can't believe anybody ever complains about that lens being "soft", from what you post, I should be getting spectacular 9x11in prints from it. Thanks for showing... On 04 Aug 2009, at 4:00 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > Wow! You MF scan is really impressive and the photo itself is very > nice. I > tried to scale up a 5D II image to 7000x4667 it seems not as detail > but I > would say it is not that far away. > > Shot with OM 35/2 at F5.6 handheld: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_5761.JPG (4.8MB) > > BTW, if it was not with B/W film will the details be so fine :-) > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 07:51:43 2009 Received: (qmail 16298 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 05:51:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 05:51:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D0FE182CB for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3756E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E804A34AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E5734AC001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <24526020.9531249452240293.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 879 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:04:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A77FA14.3050908@picturepedia.org> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:51:30 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A77FA14.3050908@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] V700 scanning was - Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 07:51:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a791def4661950411718 Hi, I use Vuescan on Mac OS X / Macbook Pro. You know, as a software architect, I find Vuescan to be an exceptionally amateur-ish piece of software with a badly designed user interface, it's really at the level of some immature piece of open-source software, but the results do speak for themselves - very nice "out the box". The software's slogan - "the image is everything" - certainly accurate! Anyway, perhaps just spend a couple of minutes with the user manual? I don't have the scanner here at work, so I can't fire it up and see exactly how to select areas, but I just do a preview scan (button bottom left) and then simply drag (select) rectangular areas in the preview window. You can also pre-select specific capture sizes in a drop-down menu on the left. On 04 Aug 2009, at 11:06 AM, SwissPace wrote: > Hi Dawid, > > or anyone else with a mac and a v700 scanner, what software do you use > to scan, I was using the epson scan software but now I urgently need > to > scan some slides for my father in law I get can't write to disk > errors, > so I tried vuescan once again but I just can't see how to select the > individual scan areas for the slides with that, I know its a problem I > have because everyone raves about it but I can't find a decent guide > to > tell me what to do and the step by step guide doesn't help. > > Maybe I should try epson scan from windows on the mac and see if > that works >> >> With my own equipment (Epson V700 scanner) digital does indeed beat >> 35mm film (although 6x7cm, which >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 07:54:36 2009 Received: (qmail 3329 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 05:54:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 05:54:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB66E180B6 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA62E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826E13610001 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:54:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B877734AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:54:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30450096.9541249452414242.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 431 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:06:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:54:24 +0200 References: <4A78DA61.9791.1C17EAD@bj.caverock.net.nz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 07:54:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a791e9c81432439112457 If you're using Mac OS X, even the lowly Preview.app (default picture viewer) will show you all the details. Just hit Command + I when you have an open picture. On 04 Aug 2009, at 3:03 PM, Brian Swale wrote: > Several of you commented on technical detail (such as distance of > focus), > which none of my software reports to me.. Please advise what software > does this. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 08:00:42 2009 Received: (qmail 22484 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 06:00:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 06:00:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BD3EDC027 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBB9E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1551634AC002 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C218134AC003 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a792004190; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:00:36 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c72.59f7bae8 (14501) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:00:33 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5003 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.200 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 08:00:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79200a213941950411718 You know the place. Two good Olympus lenses: 280381389101 Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 08:07:57 2009 Received: (qmail 5088 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 06:07:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 06:07:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2298EDC044 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39038E240E0 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC621CD48A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6716C1CD488 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 23:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7567mMP022780 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:07:48 +1000 Message-Id: <200908050607.n7567mMP022780@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:07:48 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:07:48 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 08:07:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7921bd155511234514069 > Ken Norton wrote: > > nice > alternative as it is located in the upscale Zona Rosa Center out near > the > airport. > "Zona Rosa" - sounds like it might be the "Red Light District" ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 09:37:45 2009 Received: (qmail 4701 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 07:37:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 07:37:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2A1E181A3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BF9E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7505319D93C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:37:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF3B19D920 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so810084fga.13 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:37:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.147.19 with SMTP id y19mr865692hba.90.1249457854451; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:37:34 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 60mm f1.5 aperture fixed! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 09:37:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7936c9303031234514069 Well, I opened the lens, To get to the mechanism a total dismantling was needed, luckily the pen F lenses are made in good fashion. I cleaned the mechanism but the brass ring inside the alumiunum housing was still stiff when closing the aperture from about f4-f16. I looked at the mechanism and could not discover anything strange. The fitt= ing of the brass and aluminum should not be greased I think, since there is a huge contact surface (it is a very thick, about 1,5cm) ring and the grease would be more like glue :). So after looking cerafully from all sides what could be the problem the only cause could be something with the opening in the aluminum to get the aperture linking lever to the aperture ring where the brass ring always had resistance. First I thought some parts might be out of round causing the resistance. But looking with a looking glass I discovered a very, very small metal burr at one edge of the opening in the aluminum. I removed this carefully and softened the edge a bit, et voila, problem sol= ved. In a way I'm happy I opened up the lens, since it was apparently servised b= efore and rather greasy inside, and the last "repairman" left blobs of black paint on almost every screw which was now coming off and starting to find its way inside the lens. Also when dismantling the lens the front element assembly was very loose in it's fitting and now sits snug and tight again. So this beauty is ready for use again :) no images of the repair process, but just for beauty and in honor of Maitani-San: Iwert 2009/8/5 Chuck Norcutt : > It sounds to me like the inner part of the ring and the detent ball need > to be cleaned and lubed. =A0But that doesn't tell you how to =A0get to th= e ring. > > Chuck Norcutt > > iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> Hello everybody, >> >> after succesful recalibration of my Pen FT meter by carefull wigling >> of the speed knob, >> I'm looking for a solution to a problem my 60mm f1.5 developed: >> >> The aperture ring is stiff between f4 and F11, aperture is dry and snapp= y. >> It is an FT lens so with the reversible scale. I have an exploded view d= iagramm >> from the book of John Foster (biofos), but that shows the first "F >> version" of the lens. >> >> Question is how to get at the ring? I suppose a carefull cleaning of >> the inner parts >> of the ring will do, but don't know how to get at it (and I'm not in a >> mood to experiment >> with this lens :) >> >> Many thanks for any advice, >> >> Iwert > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 10:03:17 2009 Received: (qmail 23019 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 08:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 08:03:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F60BE182B2 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B54E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD52A34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:03:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB6934AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:03:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5749763.9681249460133373.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 693 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:15:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:03:01 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 60mm f1.5 aperture fixed! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 10:03:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a793cc5181261220213263 Good job! Sounds quite a bit more involved than my recent 90/2.0 Macro diaphragm spring repair :-) On 05 Aug 2009, at 9:37 AM, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Well, I opened the lens, > > So this beauty is ready for use again :) no images of the repair > process, but just for beauty and in honor > of Maitani-San: > > > > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 10:33:24 2009 Received: (qmail 26795 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 08:33:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 08:33:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04893E1822D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF751E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD5E19DC44 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E64919DC41 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so3741767fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:33:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.148.206 with SMTP id g14mr794408hbb.54.1249461193590; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:33:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:33:13 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 10:33:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7943d4321681006886880 I'm always in for an evening walk and a drink in Maastricht, just around the corner :). I'm not so into the Preuvenemint. It is a bit to enclosed for me just on the Vrijthof. (anyway, Maastricht is a big Preuvenemint all year long :). Next week we'll be in Bruges, swapping house with friends. If anyone fancie= s a "photographic" visit, always welcome! Iwert 2009/8/4 Jez Cunningham : > Leuven Hapje Tapje is always the first Sunday in August. > > Thanks for the heads-up on Maastricht. =A0We often go there (1hr door-to-= door > and have friends there). =A0Sounds like we should plan a visit during that > period! > best regds > jez > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Frank van Lindert w= rote: > >> I should have known, Jez. I was in Maastricht and Li=E8ge/Luik for the >> past week, and could easily have driven to Leuven on Sunday. >> >> BTW, Maastricht has its 'Preuvenemint' (4 tasting days!) at the end of >> this month, 27-30 August. I'll try to be there, but lodging is always >> very difficult to find then... >> http://www.preuvenemint.nl/default.asp?cid=3D39 >> >> Frank van Lindert >> Utrecht NL. >> >> >> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:59:16 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >> >> >There's an annual event in Leuven (Belgium) where many of the restauran= ts >> >have a pavement spot and sell samplers - usually 1-4 euro for a small >> plate >> >of food, plus of course, Leuven being in the heart of beer-country, ple= nty >> >of opportunity for a tipple. =A0There are various entertainments too, s= uch >> as >> >a barman race (with a tray of drinks), music, ... =A0See more at >> >http://hapjetapje.leuveninscene.be/ (in Dutch, use Google Translate) >> > >> >Anyway here are a few pictures from our stroll around yesterday evening= (I >> >missed the barman race): >> > >> http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/jez.cunningham/HapjeTapjeLeuven2009?feat= =3Ddirectlink >> > >> >(If you're upset by out-of-focus foregrounds, look away now. =A0I tried= to >> >keep up the senorita quotient, but I had to include a few touristic >> pictures >> >too) >> > >> >cheers >> >jez >> =A0-- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 10:38:54 2009 Received: (qmail 22471 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 08:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 08:38:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E93E182B5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F42E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3C234AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:38:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E050A34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:38:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so3744648fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:38:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.7 with SMTP id t7mr934595hbb.9.1249461526747; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:38:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:38:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 10:38:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79451e169881234514069 Jez... Take care of the camera's once you're on the Dutch side... they flash (and cash) from 51km/h! (don't ask how I know) Iwert 2009/8/4 Jez Cunningham : > > Thanks for the heads-up on Maastricht. =A0We often go there (1hr door-to-= door > and have friends there). -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 10:59:04 2009 Received: (qmail 6645 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 08:59:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 08:59:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFC2E18064 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A915E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2609C34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4C734AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:58:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian.a.nichols@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so874031ewy.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:58:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.16.208 with SMTP id h58mr1692785weh.60.1249462737442; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:58:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:58:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ian Nichols To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 10:59:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7949d888181950411718 2009/8/5 DrT (George Themelis) : > There was a couple of well-known stereo photographers (two brothers) who > synchronized two mechanical cameras (not Olympus) using relays which were > electrically activated and mechanically pressed the camera shutters. =A0T= hey > claimed perfect synchronization and, to prove it, took pictures of action > sports events in the Winter Olympics many years ago. Closer synchronisation is always going to be better, and worth pursuing, but I wonder just how good it needs to be? There's a shot in one of my galleries of a car travelling at about 30 mph going past a cottage, which seems to have worked well without any tweaking, and no panning was involved. Few athletes will move that fast, and any objects that might (balls, discus, javelin etc) will often be allowed to blur to convey their motion. -- = Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember: when the emperor looks naked, the emperor *is* naked, the truth and a lie are not "sort-of the same thing" and there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza. -Daria Morgendorffer -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 10:59:51 2009 Received: (qmail 14764 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 08:59:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 08:59:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1FEE18065 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E5DE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C4319DCCD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:59:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA41D19DCCE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:59:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-019.ctimail.com [61.93.57.19]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 01:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n758x9St004786 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:59:09 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n758x8YF002752 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:59:09 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:59:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 10:59:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a794a07224781220213263 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawid Loubser" > Thanks, glad you like my (what I though was rather mundane) image :-) > > I agree that your upscaled 5D MkII image is not that far off from my > Mamiya scan, and to answer > your last question/statement, B&W film (Ilford) is a heck of a lot > more grainy than digital, or > Provia or Ektar colour film. When I scan Provia to the same > dimensions, there is just absolutely no > (nada, zip) grain. I also find that colour slide film (ISO 100) has > vastly more resolution than ISO 100 > black and white film - not sure why this is? One apparently has to use > Pan F to match the resolution and (not > even then) the smoothnes of Provia 100F. I have very little experience in B/W film, I always think B/W film has higher resolution, seems I was wrong. > > I must say, I am thrilled that a scan on a cheap-ish flatbed from my > Mamiya negatives beat a very high-res > DSLR like the 5DII. However, when you look at a 16x20 wet print from > this same negative, or a high-end scan > on e.g. a Flextight, it will be some time yet until any one-shot > digital capture matches it. I can't agree on your 'cheap-ish' flatbed, the V700's resolution is tested to be very close to N*kon 4000ED. Ok, 4000ED is also not a pro scanner but on the other hand I did use microscope to examine some slides and found a good 4000dip scan is already resolved most details from the film. > > However, while the resolution is nice, the sole reason I am messing > around with B&W is because of the > tonality, I have a carefully made digital capture of that exact same > scene (EF 50mm f/1.2L at optimum > diffraction-limited aperture, mirror lockup, ESO 1DMkIIN) and the look > is just totally different, and > I really love wet-printing. > There should be little different between wet-print and digital print like Frontier output if one can master the process, tone can be adjusted in every way you wanted digitally. > Once it gets old, I am sure I will be thrilled with what contemporary > digital provides then. > > P.S. Your image has again awakened the need within myself to get an OM > 35/2.0 lens! The quality is highly > impressive, I can't believe anybody ever complains about that lens > being "soft", from what you post, I should be > getting spectacular 9x11in prints from it. Thanks for showing... > It is so sad to see the 5D II with OM 35/2 is only good for making 9x11 print :-) C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:03:05 2009 Received: (qmail 9496 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:03:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:03:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E41E182B3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9349E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A901019DCF5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:02:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BEF19DCCD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:02:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so7787546yxe.22 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.144.11 with SMTP id r11mr869036ybd.311.1249462977859; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:02:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908041856gafe717dvdaf72582222bdc64@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908041655m15d71364vedca8ceaaeed6e3c@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0908041856gafe717dvdaf72582222bdc64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:57 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8f428d201e4a2925 Message-ID: <60f983080908050202h66c2cb94i4ade2390ef6c9129@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:03:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a794ac9133361744846740 Thanks, Joel. The weather is not pretty good in the summer this year, rainy & typhoon visited. Hope I can take shots with my Kodakchrome in Aug, otherwise the sky will go to haze :-( --- Michael 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > Thanks Michael. It is my understanding that the only lab processing > Kodachrome is in Parsons, Kansas, USA (Dwayne's Photo). They have a > web site. > > Kodachrome is very nice for flowers, people, and almost anything in > early and late light. > > Joel W. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Michael Wong wrote: > > Joel, > > I like them very much!!! > > > > Nice shots. > > > > My friend gave 1 roll of Kodakchrome but waiting good weather to shoot. > By > > the way, is there development in USA only? > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > > > > > > > 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > > > >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ > >> > >> Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:22:19 2009 Received: (qmail 6100 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:22:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:22:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C215E18066 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F44CE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A4D19DD7D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:22:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8936F19DD71 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8856 invoked by uid 502); 5 Aug 2009 09:22:12 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-178-90.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.178.90) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 5 Aug 2009 09:22:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A794F34.9030005@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:21:56 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200908050607.n7567mMP022780@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200908050607.n7567mMP022780@mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Somewhat off-topic, if food is ever off topic on this list X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:22:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a794f4b143461879814018 Wayne Harridge wrote: > "Zona Rosa" - sounds like it might be the "Red Light District" ! > Nah. Reference is the "Zona Rosa" in Mexico City and later some other Latin American cities. The name is actually "Pink Zone", not red. Used to be about fashionable shops, art, restaurants and nightlife. I was in a couple of world class traffic jams heading home from that area. One later made the front page of the Sunday LA Times. Staying with friends in LA, I started to read the feature article about traffic in Mexico City, looked at the date and picture and yelled "I was there!" The only way out was to abandon the cab or bus and walk a mile or so before picking up another one. I did drive in Mexico, but never to the Zona Rosa. I'm not that dumb. Now I gather the original in Mexico has become a center for the fashionable gay community, too. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:29:05 2009 Received: (qmail 24656 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:29:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F51E1822B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66561E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4296C19DDC2 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:28:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA3D19DDBF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:28:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYcnl-0006RB-90 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:28:53 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:28:22 +0200 Message-ID: <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:29:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7950e1315571258626592 Yes. We are _very_ law-abiding here in the Netherlands. So only foreign visitors will be flashed by our hundreds of road-side and police-vehicle mounted cameras. = And just in case you would fail to pay your fines and have to do some time: here we keep our inmates locked in properly too ;-) Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:38:46 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >Jez... Take care of the camera's once you're on the Dutch side... >they flash (and cash) from >51km/h! (don't ask how I know) > >Iwert > >2009/8/4 Jez Cunningham : >> >> Thanks for the heads-up on Maastricht. =A0We often go there (1hr door-to= -door >> and have friends there). -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:32:05 2009 Received: (qmail 23673 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:32:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:32:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC49E18228 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C87E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB3F34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:31:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2055734AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:31:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11741777.9701249465460365.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 411 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:44:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN> X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:31:48 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:32:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795195133011560218263 No no no, I think you mis-understood me. On my OM-1, with darkroom prints, if I can get a great 9x11in, I am happy. I rarely print bigger, 35mm film starts to break down at much larger sizes, for that I use MF. So, following on our discussions a month or so ago, where people claimed the 35/2.0 to be a so-so lens, I stated that, if it can give me a great 9x11, I am happy. The high-res digital samples I've seen convince me that this is the case (even wide open) and your example shows that, stopped down, the lens has very good resolution, except perhaps the extreme corners. I am sure that your image will print nicely to 1 meter+, in fact. But I would never personally (with the equipment at hand) attempt that with 35mm film except under extremely controlled circumstances, as every link in the analog imaging chain would have to be perfect (film, enlerger lens, etc). I shoot FP4+ mostly (I just bought a bulk roll which should see me through the year) and grain will become a problem a huge sizes, not to mention the fact that I hate using a tripod for 35mm, the whole *point* is the mobility and the agility, otherwise may as well bring a bigger/better camera also. On 05 Aug 2009, at 10:59 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: >> > It is so sad to see the 5D II with OM 35/2 is only good for making > 9x11 > print :-) > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:35:10 2009 Received: (qmail 72 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:35:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AD3E18056 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CFFE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C56034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:35:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6D34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:35:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12516907.9711249465647394.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 382 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:47:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:34:55 +0200 References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:35:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79524e47395683411216 Blurred elements in a stereograph is always a curious visual phenomenon, as is out-of-focus areas. Stereography is, to my experience, the one form of photography where you definitely want to remove blur / OOF areas completely, relying on composition / lighting only for artistic statement. I am still getting to know my stereo realist, have not used it enough yet. So I may be wrong, but this has been my impression thus far. On 05 Aug 2009, at 10:58 AM, Ian Nichols wrote: > 2009/8/5 DrT (George Themelis) : > >> There was a couple of well-known stereo photographers (two >> brothers) who >> synchronized two mechanical cameras (not Olympus) using relays >> which were >> electrically activated and mechanically pressed the camera >> shutters. They >> claimed perfect synchronization and, to prove it, took pictures of >> action >> sports events in the Winter Olympics many years ago. > > Closer synchronisation is always going to be better, and worth > pursuing, but I wonder just how good it needs to be? There's a shot > in one of my galleries of a car travelling at about 30 mph going past > a cottage, which seems to have worked well without any tweaking, and > no panning was involved. Few athletes will move that fast, and any > objects that might (balls, discus, javelin etc) will often be allowed > to blur to convey their motion. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:38:30 2009 Received: (qmail 21879 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:38:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C28AE1822C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C81E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A763B34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:38:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5B634AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:38:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so1354653fgg.13 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:38:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.25.14 with SMTP id 14mr3609466fgy.14.1249465102480; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:38:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:38:22 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a8b204b54fc9ee02 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908050238j3dd94f7dx42cbd6705da4ed9f@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:38:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795316267771342116753 Thanks Iwert, unfortunately I also have some real experience :-( Leuven is a Beemer-driver's blackspot too. In fact when I ran Microsoft Money's "build me a budget for next year" utility, it even proposed a monthly figure for speeding tickets! cheers Jez ps - by the way, we English don't put in the apostrophe when we pluralise nouns ending in a vowel - "cameras" is correct :-) On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:38 AM, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Jez... Take care of the camera's once you're on the Dutch side... > they flash (and cash) from > 51km/h! (don't ask how I know) > > Iwert > > 2009/8/4 Jez Cunningham : > > > > Thanks for the heads-up on Maastricht. We often go there (1hr > door-to-door > > and have friends there). > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:39:19 2009 Received: (qmail 30999 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:39:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56113E181AC for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E7EE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E60E34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:39:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C487B34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:39:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so3776133fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:39:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.68.7 with SMTP id q7mr3810412fga.3.1249465141246; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:39:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:39:01 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 19622c379b9fe712 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:39:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795346120549730998309 Wot - no helicopters? Jez On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Frank van Lindert wrote: > > And just in case you would fail to pay your fines and have to do some > time: here we keep our inmates locked in properly too ;-) > > Frank van Lindert > Utrecht NL. > > > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:38:46 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > > >Jez... Take care of the camera's once you're on the Dutch side... > >they flash (and cash) from > >51km/h! (don't ask how I know) > > > >Iwert > > > >2009/8/4 Jez Cunningham : > >> > >> Thanks for the heads-up on Maastricht. We often go there (1hr > door-to-door > >> and have friends there). > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:47:06 2009 Received: (qmail 12488 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:47:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF3BE18256 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BFDE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683AE34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:47:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC1734AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:47:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (smtp-out3.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.178]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYd5I-0007aG-9E for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:47:00 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:46:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> In-Reply-To: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:47:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79551a74481744846740 It all depends on the subject and the speed of its movements, doesn't it? Perfect stereo stills can be made with one camera, by merely shifting its position a little bit. And I have made nice "stereos" from a flying airplane, just by quickly pressing the shutter twice. Of course the image is different from what the human eye would have seen; it looks like the view of a giant with two very distant eyes. Which makes it even more spectacular: usually the view from a plane hasn't much stereo to offer... Frank van Lindert Utrecht nL. On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:30:18 -0400, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > >There was a couple of well-known stereo photographers (two brothers) who >synchronized two mechanical cameras (not Olympus) using relays which were >electrically activated and mechanically pressed the camera shutters. They >claimed perfect synchronization and, to prove it, took pictures of action >sports events in the Winter Olympics many years ago. > > >George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:48:37 2009 Received: (qmail 29542 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:48:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0DAE182AE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6BAE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F256D34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:48:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CEF34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:48:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYd6l-0008Gf-QP for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:48:31 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:48:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:48:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795575162581357919056 No _Belgian_ helicopters! Frank. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:39:01 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >Wot - no helicopters? >Jez -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:50:14 2009 Received: (qmail 24400 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:50:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA54E18229 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B11AE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E86C34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A4034AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31488081.9791249466552070.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 395 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:02:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A756E43.9050306@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:50:01 +0200 References: <4A756E43.9050306@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Here's what was needed for the E-P1 viewfinder X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:50:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7955d6279589730998309 Very nice, I can definitely see how a high (construction) quality version of this might be truly useful and cost-effective. However, I am sure that as the angle of view widens, it becomes impractical? i.e. if I were to replace the albada-type viewfinder of my Linhof Technorama 617S, which shows an extremely wide and panoramic view (~18mm equiv, 3:1) [see http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/145563.jpg ] with this type of viewfinder, would it even be possible? And would the size of the opening in the front not become too large? I would love to, the Linhof viewfinder has a lot of distortion, and is not as bright as a lensless finder might be, not to mention the eye relief. What are your thoughts? On 02 Aug 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:51:05 2009 Received: (qmail 30749 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:51:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:51:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214E2E180CD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D36E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA01934AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064B334AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so3782121fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:50:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.148.82 with SMTP id e18mr842258hbb.13.1249465809885; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:50:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:50:09 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:51:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795609109881076813867 Better: no windows, doors, ladders against walls etc. I have the feeling I'm living in a slapstick country for the moment, first elections, now this, everyday something. And I'm Belgian so in a way responsible for this as well. I just don't know what or who to vote for to have things changed. One can laugh with it (and we do here!) but in the end all this is actually very, very sad! I thought it was ridiculous for the safety services to go on strike in the "palace of justice" after the escape. They were in shock! The horror, they're supposed to keep an eye on the gangsters and keep them from escaping... Maybe they're underequipped, so then you are even more carefull! Iwert (ashamed) ps: iI spotted the apostrophe when I had hit send already :) 2009/8/5 Jez Cunningham : > Wot - no helicopters? > Jez > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Frank van Lindert w= rote: > >> >> And just in case you would fail to pay your fines and have to do some >> time: here we keep our inmates locked in properly too ;-) >> >> Frank van Lindert >> Utrecht NL. >> >> >> >> >> =A0On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:38:46 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >> >> >Jez... =A0Take care of the camera's once you're on the Dutch side... >> >they flash (and cash) from >> >51km/h! (don't ask how I know) >> > >> >Iwert >> > >> >2009/8/4 Jez Cunningham : >> >> >> >> Thanks for the heads-up on Maastricht. =A0We often go there (1hr >> door-to-door >> >> and have friends there). >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 11:54:03 2009 Received: (qmail 29844 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 09:54:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 09:54:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C6EE182B8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047EFE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D5A19DE73 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:53:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38B919DE6F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:53:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 02:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4237889bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:53:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr854355hbd.52.1249466035883; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:53:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:53:55 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 11:54:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7956bb128311234514069 Yes, funny how they are lookig for solutions to keep helicopters landing in jale. Nets, cables, poles, probably already all the money is gone already on studies. Just plant some big trees (a fairly tall one only costs about 5000 euro). Gives some shade, the green calms and is good for the climate :). One can't blame the helicopters... Iwert 2009/8/5 Frank van Lindert : > No _Belgian_ helicopters! > Frank. > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:39:01 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: > >>Wot - no helicopters? >>Jez > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 12:17:28 2009 Received: (qmail 26447 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 10:17:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 10:17:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0848BE18069 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35ECCE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1528834AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:17:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4133034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:17:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYdYe-0002bD-HO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:17:20 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:16:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9f07ac840908030259q7ee1b401hb255d0b6d1db7bc9@mail.gmail.com> <0itf759ed3vboobjsu7t6boah9k67cqlbe@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908040202k4c548f9l802cc3b264dea87f@mail.gmail.com> <2mji75pfb9ntkkc2l05osdf5ee12sfcnhc@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908050239s1b917aa4p4237156f56e2fd65@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Pictures from "Hapje Tapje" in Leuven yesterday X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 12:17:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795c38306001006886880 I think the trees should not be tall. They'd better not to prevent using the same as another escape instrument... But a lot of smaller - and cheaper - trees, just wide and tall enough to prevent a helicopter from landing or lowering a clibing device might be a very good idea. BTW, there are some jokes and funny stories running here in Holland about the situation. In one of them it is said that probably the Belgian authorities see the escapes as a good instrument to decrease the number of (mostly foreign) prisoners in the overcrowded jails. Cell shortage, and so on. Another one refers to the fact that a few months ago The Netherlands offered Belgium to house inmates in our prisons, of which we have too many, some being unused. But 'now the Belgians have demanded to let the inmates be guarded by their own Belgian prison personnel' which is 'of course asking for trouble'. Many jokes will follow, I expect. Frank. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:53:55 +0200, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >Yes, funny how they are lookig for solutions to keep helicopters landing >in jale. Nets, cables, poles, probably already all the money is gone >already on studies. >Just plant some big trees (a fairly tall one only costs about 5000 euro). >Gives some shade, the green calms and is good for the climate :). > >One can't blame the helicopters... > >Iwert > >2009/8/5 Frank van Lindert : >> No _Belgian_ helicopters! >> Frank. >> >> On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:39:01 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >> >>>Wot - no helicopters? >>>Jez >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 12:30:32 2009 Received: (qmail 31430 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 10:30:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 10:30:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20280E1806A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214C0E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9C634AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:30:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A26034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:30:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from maiden102.ctimail.com (maiden102-122.ctimail.com [61.93.57.122]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 03:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1o.ctimail.com (smtp1o [203.186.94.57]) by maiden102.ctimail.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n75AUMop019408 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +0800 Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtp1o.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n75AUMtH016038 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN><25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN> <11741777.9701249465460365.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:30:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 12:30:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a795f48170701220213263 I was just joking, OM 35/2's performance is indeed very good. For the extreme corners, there is no hope, all Zuiko F2 wide has the same problem, I believe the designer expected the corners to be covered by slide mount. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawid Loubser" > No no no, I think you mis-understood me. On my OM-1, with darkroom > prints, > if I can get a great 9x11in, I am happy. I rarely print bigger, 35mm > film starts to > break down at much larger sizes, for that I use MF. > > So, following on our discussions a month or so ago, where people > claimed the 35/2.0 to be > a so-so lens, I stated that, if it can give me a great 9x11, I am > happy. The high-res digital > samples I've seen convince me that this is the case (even wide open) > and your example shows that, > stopped down, the lens has very good resolution, except perhaps the > extreme corners. > > I am sure that your image will print nicely to 1 meter+, in fact. But > I would never personally > (with the equipment at hand) attempt that with 35mm film except under > extremely controlled > circumstances, as every link in the analog imaging chain would have to > be perfect > (film, enlerger lens, etc). > > I shoot FP4+ mostly (I just bought a bulk roll which should see me > through the year) and grain will > become a problem a huge sizes, not to mention the fact that I hate > using a tripod for 35mm, the whole > *point* is the mobility and the agility, otherwise may as well bring a > bigger/better camera also. > > On 05 Aug 2009, at 10:59 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > >>> >> It is so sad to see the 5D II with OM 35/2 is only good for making >> 9x11 >> print :-) >> >> C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 13:34:08 2009 Received: (qmail 16717 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 11:34:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 11:34:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E960E18228 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBC2E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F87034AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA71A34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:34:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18561 invoked by uid 504); 5 Aug 2009 11:33:57 -0000 Received: from pa-67-234-168-93.dhcp.embarqhsd.net (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090804-1, 08/04/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Here's what was needed for the E-P1 viewfinder X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 13:34:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a796e30241741220213263 Sorry, I don't have any thoughts. I don't have a clue. :-) Chuck Norcutt Dawid Loubser wrote: > Very nice, I can definitely see how a high (construction) quality > version of this might be truly useful > and cost-effective. However, I am sure that as the angle of view > widens, it becomes impractical? > > i.e. if I were to replace the albada-type viewfinder of my Linhof > Technorama 617S, which shows an extremely > wide and panoramic view (~18mm equiv, 3:1) [see http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/145563.jpg > ] > > with this type of viewfinder, would it even be possible? And would the > size of the opening in the front not become > too large? > > I would love to, the Linhof viewfinder has a lot of distortion, and is > not as bright as a lensless finder > might be, not to mention the eye relief. > > What are your thoughts? > > > On 02 Aug 2009, at 12:45 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> >> >> Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 13:49:42 2009 Received: (qmail 24506 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 11:49:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 11:49:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B23E180B5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D7BE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA5234AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:49:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F69834AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (donholbrook@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QbZ71c00C0xGWP85Abpc4S; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:49:36 +0000 Received: from sz0029.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.79]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qbpc1c0031iZpPQ3Ybpclt; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:49:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:49:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Don Holbrook To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <106752099.9521461249472976149.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200908050540.n755e657027927@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [76.96.58.79] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (zclient/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 13:49:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7971d689321136683642 He may have a few left. I don't know if he is going to make any more. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Sent: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... > DrT \(George Themelis\) wrote: > > > So, I find a link showing where the cap is supposed to be stored inside > the > battery compartment of the winder. I check and it is there! Another > relief... > > I know these are "old news" for all of you... but I am learning new > things > every day :) > There is a small company (maybe just 1 bloke), Beljan Manufacturing that makes replacement caps (and other stuff) and occasionally sells on that big auction site. Excellent products and great service. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 14:18:23 2009 Received: (qmail 9901 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 12:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 12:18:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86961E18069 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6413E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3A134AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920C634AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW0032GKTYY010@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:17:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A797876.3090807@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:17:58 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A78264E.3000103@verizon.net> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Slipping wind lever X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 14:18:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79788f293051342116753 excellent! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: > Thanks, John. I attached the MD2 last night and wasted a couple frames of > elcheepo print film. It advanced the film just fine. So, the MD2 is now > permanently attached. Not that that's a bad thing... > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 14:19:23 2009 Received: (qmail 3100 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 12:19:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 12:19:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B854CE18067 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A01E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F51819E328 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:19:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F8219E340 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:19:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so14274anc.35 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:19:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.216.7 with SMTP id o7mr11314724ang.120.1249474752398; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:19:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080908050202h66c2cb94i4ade2390ef6c9129@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908041655m15d71364vedca8ceaaeed6e3c@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0908041856gafe717dvdaf72582222bdc64@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908050202h66c2cb94i4ade2390ef6c9129@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:12 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908050519w411df25em94b275179ccedf17@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 14:19:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7978cb259321076813867 It might be best to concentrate on flowers and people then. Under cloudy conditions, Kodachrome works well with a warming filter, if you have one. It doesn't improve skies or scenics, but it warms up skin tones (more of a consideration for Caucasian skin, possibly) and keeps the greens from looking too blue, etc. Polarizer for blue skies wherever possible is nice (whereas I skip the POL sometimes with Velvia or digital). Having said that, I haven't used a POL for any of my shots yet because so many are handheld and Kodachrome 25 is just so slow. I'm already shooting a lot at F4 to get a decent shutter speed! Joel W. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Michael Wong wrote: > Thanks, Joel. > > The weather is not pretty good in the summer this year, rainy & typhoon > visited. Hope I can take shots with my Kodakchrome in Aug, otherwise the = sky > will go to haze :-( > > > --- > Michael > > > > > 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > >> Thanks Michael. =A0It is my understanding that the only lab processing >> Kodachrome is in Parsons, Kansas, USA (Dwayne's Photo). =A0They have a >> web site. >> >> Kodachrome is very nice for flowers, people, and almost anything in >> early and late light. >> >> Joel W. >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Michael Wong wrote: >> > Joel, >> > I like them very much!!! >> > >> > Nice shots. >> > >> > My friend gave 1 roll of Kodakchrome but waiting good weather to shoot. >> By >> > the way, is there development in USA only? >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Michael >> > >> > >> > >> > 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox >> > >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ >> >> >> >> Joel W. >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 14:29:45 2009 Received: (qmail 22307 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 12:29:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 12:29:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F60EDC05C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DD5E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6EF34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A33F34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW00EBILCU0FA0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A797B1E.50005@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:29:18 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 14:29:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a797b39195891258626592 wow Ken, you really load up. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: > I'm one to do an analysis on how stuff works in the overall approach. For > this trip I had picked and chosen a set of equipment based on some > assumptions as well as shooting styles of the past several years. Here is > what I took and a few comments with it. (these comments are being copied > down from my pocket notebook). > > ITEMS TAKEN: > 1. OM-4T - Used it for slide film. Film advance started slipping too much > and was replaced by the 2S. > 2. OM-2S - Used it for print film, B&W film and then slide film once the 4T > acted up. > 3. OM-3Ti - Used it for B&W (Neopan SS), flawless. > 4. E-1 - Used it for digital backup of some film shots as well as for > proofing. > 5. 14-54 Zoom - Used with the E-1 > 6. 35-80/2.8 Zoom - Used mostly for color slide film pictures. VERY > enjoyable to use--the most used lens of the trip. > 7. 24/2.8 - Wasn't used as much as expected. 35mm was usually wide-enough > and teles were used more. > 8. 35/shift - This lens was used mostly with B&W. I wouldn't have used it as > much, but it was my only "normal, normal-wide" focal length lens with a 49mm > filter-ring size. > 9. 100/2.8 - Used mostly with B&W. Wonderful as always. > 10. 200/4 - Used it a lot with B&W, but was the most used lens behind the > 35-80. > 11. 300/4.5 - Used it some, but it was usually a touch too long. > 12. Lowe-Pro SlingShot 300 AW bag. I'll save my comments for another > section. > 13. Medium-sized Bogen (Manfrotto) 3001 tripod with medium-sized ball-head > with hex-plate. > 14. Mini-tripod - Used only to prop up a tarp at the campsite. > 15. Monopod - Used it quite a bit, but not as much as usual because of close > shooting proximity to the vehicle. > 16. Polaris flash/ambient meter - Used it for post-sunset scenes at mountain > lake. > 17. Cable release - Too short, where in the world is my big one? > 18. QR plates - grrrrr > 19. Hoya B&W filter set, 49mm and 72mm polarizers. > 20. Naneu Pro bag - used it mostly to just hold exposed film. > 21. Lens cleaning supplies > 22. Fanny Pack - used to carry stuff when hiking. > 23. ExpoDisc - Not used. > 24. Extension tubes and reversing rings. > > ITEMS NOT USED ON TRIP: > 1. ExpoDisc - This one surprised me, but between the handheld's ambient dome > and the multi-spot metering, I never felt the need or desire to drag it > out. Frankly, I think I forgot I had it with me. > 2. 25mm extension tube - I did use the 14mm on the 300/4.5 when shooting > critters, but never touched this one. > 3. Reversing Ring - Any macro opportunities were thwarted by high winds. > > ITEMS NOT TAKEN THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN: > 1. Tokina AT-X 100-300/4 - I'm of mixed opinion here, but having two zooms > (35-80 and 100-300) for a given kit sure is handy and efficient. Not for > everything, but does reduce kit size when trying to be efficient. It's not > that I missed having the lens, it's just that it would have been handy a > couple of times. > 2. Zuiko 50/3.5 - I was missing a normal (non-shift) medium focal-length > lens for use with B&W. > 3. MD2 drives - Hex plates and OM bodies don't work well together. Almost > always in the past I had winders attached to my OM bodies to address this > issue. My memory of that faded. > 4. Flash - Space constraint was an issue, but I should have packed at least > a 285HV. > 5. Big 3021 Tripod - What was I thinking? I'm 6'4" and trying to use my > short squatty tripod? Duh! > 6. 55mm lens shade. Last night I finally figured out how to use it with the > B&W filters. Grrr. > > ITEMS NEEDED: > 1. Longer cable-release - My 18" one is missing somewhere in my darkroom > boxes. Longer is better. > 2. New QR system - The hex plate quick-release plate system has got to go. > 3. ND GRAD filter - self explanatory > 4. Step Ring for the 35-80 to use my 72mm polarizer. > 5. UV Filters. > > > Overall, I believe that my equipment selection was pretty much OK. I did > give a lot of thought to the equipment selection and proof that it was > pretty good is the list of items not used on the trip. Of the items not > taken, the one that was slam-dunk needed was my big 3021 tripod. This was > the first time I really regretted not taking it with me. Normally not that > big of an issue because I tend to reduce the height of the tripod for > lower-level shooting, but for the grand scenics that I was photographing, I > got a kink in my neck. The MD2 drives were left behind because of > size/weight concerns. As it turned out, a second bag was really needed > anyway, so this savings was nulled out. > > The one assumption I made was that the 35-80 would "replace" the normal > 35/2.8 and the 50/3.5. This was a good assumption, except for one thing: > Filters. My B&W filters are 55mm ring size (I have 49-55 step rings) and > the polarizers are 49mm and 72mm. So the 35-80 couldn't be used with the > B&W filters and I didn't have a step ring for the 72mm polarizer. This was > the only thing that really held the 35-80 back from being nearly universally > usable. > > There was one thing I fought the whole time. The Lowe-Pro SlingShot 300 AW > bag is as close to worthless as I've come across. It is a difficult bag to > work out of. The "Top Load" limiting claspes get caught in the zipper every > time you open the bag up all the way and then try to zip it back up. The > shoulder strap is VERY slippery unless you put it up and over your > head--which is the designed way to carry it. Because the strap is so > slippery you can't just casually carry it on your shoulder for a few seconds > or minutes. Most disturbing is that the inner flaps and seams get caught in > the zipper. You're constantly having to work the inner material out of the > way every time you close the zippers. The bag does have a few redeeming > values--if you are restricted to ONE camera and two zooms, the bag is ideal, > but as I'm constantly swapping cameras and lenses, the bag was horrid for > this. > > As a general rule, I've not been a fan of UV "protective" filters, but I'm > starting to come around. I'll be getting quality UV filters for the zooms. > > The hex-plate QR system has run its course with me. Unfortunately, a change > will require all new heads. If I change, maybe it's time to change bases > too. Ugh. So much for "lifetime" investment. What I ended up doing was > taking my small ballhead that I use on the mini-tripod and monopod and > attached it to a QR plate. It looked kinda silly having two ballheads > stacked, but it was quite usable. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 14:32:47 2009 Received: (qmail 25688 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 12:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 12:32:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C182E182AF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14061E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16E419E386 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:32:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D78519E369 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:32:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f198.google.com (mail-yw0-f198.google.com [209.85.211.198]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh36 with SMTP id 36so70435ywh.31 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:32:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.15.6 with SMTP id s6mr15527814ybi.248.1249475560314; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:32:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908050519w411df25em94b275179ccedf17@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908041655m15d71364vedca8ceaaeed6e3c@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0908041856gafe717dvdaf72582222bdc64@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908050202h66c2cb94i4ade2390ef6c9129@mail.gmail.com> <9e908c1f0908050519w411df25em94b275179ccedf17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:32:40 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 622618b26a14282a Message-ID: <60f983080908050532q5f1dd00cmb3257da84e179e62@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 14:32:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a797bef146581357919056 Joel, Thanks for your advice. Hope the weather will go to better soon. --- Michael 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > It might be best to concentrate on flowers and people then. Under > cloudy conditions, Kodachrome works well with a warming filter, if you > have one. It doesn't improve skies or scenics, but it warms up skin > tones (more of a consideration for Caucasian skin, possibly) and keeps > the greens from looking too blue, etc. Polarizer for blue skies > wherever possible is nice (whereas I skip the POL sometimes with > Velvia or digital). Having said that, I haven't used a POL for any of > my shots yet because so many are handheld and Kodachrome 25 is just so > slow. I'm already shooting a lot at F4 to get a decent shutter speed! > > Joel W. > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Michael Wong wrote: > > Thanks, Joel. > > > > The weather is not pretty good in the summer this year, rainy & typhoon > > visited. Hope I can take shots with my Kodakchrome in Aug, otherwise the > sky > > will go to haze :-( > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > > > >> Thanks Michael. It is my understanding that the only lab processing > >> Kodachrome is in Parsons, Kansas, USA (Dwayne's Photo). They have a > >> web site. > >> > >> Kodachrome is very nice for flowers, people, and almost anything in > >> early and late light. > >> > >> Joel W. > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Michael Wong > wrote: > >> > Joel, > >> > I like them very much!!! > >> > > >> > Nice shots. > >> > > >> > My friend gave 1 roll of Kodakchrome but waiting good weather to > shoot. > >> By > >> > the way, is there development in USA only? > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > Michael > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 2009/8/5 Joel Wilcox > >> > > >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ > >> >> > >> >> Joel W. > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 14:38:56 2009 Received: (qmail 18353 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 12:38:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 12:38:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A4BE18053 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C08E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5743519E3A3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:38:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE93F19E3A0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:38:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f198.google.com (mail-yw0-f198.google.com [209.85.211.198]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh36 with SMTP id 36so74972ywh.31 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:38:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.106.12 with SMTP id e12mr10630993anc.89.1249475921786; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:38:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908050544.n755incA014828@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200908050544.n755incA014828@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:38:41 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908050538gf443907i1ae809c2b13c1f05@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 14:38:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a797d6083275034211378 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Wayne Harridge wrote: >> Joel Wilcox wrote: >> >> (I say "likely" because I didn't >> write anything down, my bad). >> > > ...and you couldn't find it in the EXIF data ! It's mostly all EXIT data, since it leaves my mind immediately. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 14:59:24 2009 Received: (qmail 10461 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 12:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 12:59:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C124E18177 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26283E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA2334AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9929334AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:59:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 05:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW001IVMQ0L525@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:58:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A798208.3050806@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:58:48 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 14:59:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79822c117561076813867 Two OM-1 may not fire the shutter at the same time and that would be determined by the mirror height when the shutter fires. Same goes for 2/2N and both can vary based on condition of springs in mirror mechanisms. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Have you tried the electrically linked winder-2s method? It worked >> quite well for me. I could even get flash sync at 1/30s with only one >> flashgun. http://iansstereophotography.fotopic.net/ > > Wow! Another stereo photographer! I just got into this (last month). I have > just now acquired the winder 2's and I will be experimenting soon. My first > question when I joined this list was regarding the synchronization of the > Olympus cameras, especially the mechanical OM1 using electrical cords. It > was explained to me that the winder 2 fires the camera mechanically. I am > now curious and eager to check the synchronization. > > The test is very simple: You link the two cameras with the winders > electrically linked and the backs open, facing an illuminated white piece of > paper. You fire the cameras (trying different speeds) and look at the > impression as you see through *both* cameras (from the back, looking towards > the white area). If you see a white 24x36 area, then the camera are 100% > synchronized. If the synchronization is off, then you see a smaller > illuminated area or even nothing if the cameras are totally off. > > Even electrically synchronized cameras are only synchronized up to 1/125 or > maybe 1/250 if you are lucky (this is considered excellent). I wonder how > well the Olympus will be synchronized given their mechanical activation. > For what you are saying, they seem to be synchronized at 1/30 for the flash. > I hope they go higher, to 1/125 or higher. > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:00:59 2009 Received: (qmail 8287 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:00:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645C8E18064 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF55E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A9519E41D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0E919E41A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090805130001H0600kd9l5e>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:00:01 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:59:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:00:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79828b321331258626592 Not really.... Suffering from a severe case of Zuikolitis, I have been checking every Olympus OM ebay auction. So, I know that the same seller sold the same lot for only $208.45 (I was watching it). Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280378398797 Now, they are posting the same exactly auction wiith an added $299 "buy it now" as an option. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280381389101 I asked what happened to the first auction and did not go through. Their reply is that the first auction did go through, but they have more than one of these lenses for sale. "They all look the same", they assured me. Any seller who recycles their pictures is not to be trusted IMO. But since they do not show any details, like clear pictures, serial numbers, etc., then the pictures are "generic" so they can be recycled. An extra reason not to do business with these people. (Note: I often don't follow my own advice.) Also, you can buy the 300mm lens for around $150 at KEH. So $299 today for these two lenses is not a bargain. The "free market" priced this lot at $208.45 a day ago. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:07:44 2009 Received: (qmail 14822 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:07:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:07:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAEDE180B8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77110E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D097E34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:07:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61B34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:07:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW001EKN45RDG6@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A798405.2060505@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:07:17 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <1266BB321096440E8DE5BE3FAC23FDF3@jimnichols><933DCBDB6C034D89894862D93364A0CF@your9ya3hf92n3><79CAEBE70ECB4EBABF786C6FE0DFB144@jimnichols><41A351B1152D49E7B5B8B456CD834C89@your9ya3hf92n3><63B998EE-ADEE-468D-93E0-1894CAFAB549@threeshoes.net> <3203DF17345C43EC8958CB65E06C7F8C@your9ya3hf92n3> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:07:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a798420196021950411718 OM-1/1N, 2/2N on B with Motor Drive 1, 2, Winder 1, 2 will fire shutter at approx. 1/500th shutter speed. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > So, I just got my first OM2n (ebay purchase) with lens and Winder 2. The > first thing I do is fire the shutter to check it. Batteries are dead and > the mirror gets stuck in the up position. > > Panic! I check the internet and find out how to release the mirror. Ahhhh > relief.... > > Then, I remove the Winder and I start thinking about the missing cap where > the winder attaches to the gears. I do an internet search, looking for > replacement caps. I am sure many camera owners who use the winder have lost > the cap so there must be a large supply of (maybe aftermarket) caps. > > So, I find a link showing where the cap is supposed to be stored inside the > battery compartment of the winder. I check and it is there! Another > relief... > > I know these are "old news" for all of you... but I am learning new things > every day :) > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:12:52 2009 Received: (qmail 24008 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:12:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:12:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9C3E182AE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50716E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470C534AC00A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2544334AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090805131245H04008rnlqe>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:12:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <041CDC370EFE461AA55AAAF1E890E43B@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A798208.3050806@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:01:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:12:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a798554215731258626592 > Two OM-1 may not fire the shutter at the same time and that would be > determined by the mirror height when the shutter fires. Same goes for > 2/2N and both can vary based on condition of springs in mirror mechanisms. That's why one might need to try several bodies and several winders 2, to find the best combination. Great!! Now I have an excuse to buy even more Olympus OM stuff!!! :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:12:56 2009 Received: (qmail 5924 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:12:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF7AE182B3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67529E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8634AC00B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B39D34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090805131246H04008rnlre>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:12:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:10:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:12:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a798558122332013633067 > Perfect stereo stills can be made with one camera, by merely > shifting its position a little bit. Yes... A lot of people are surprised to learn this, but stereo pictures can be taken with only ONE camera. Just take the first picture, shift the camera, take the 2nd picture. A good starting point is to shift the camera by 65mm (2.5 inches), which is the average spacing of the eyes. I sell (www.drt3d.com) slide bars that make this shifting more accurate. One can just hold the camera and shift it, but there is a possibility of alignment errors. If you shoot digital, there is a free software that will align the pictures. If you shoot film, it takes a bit of experience to align misaligned pairs during mounting. > And I have made nice "stereos" > from a flying airplane, just by quickly pressing the shutter twice. > Of course the image is different from what the human eye would have > seen; it looks like the view of a giant with two very distant eyes. > Which makes it even more spectacular: usually the view from a plane > hasn't much stereo to offer... Exactly! :) I always carry a single camera when I fly (or travel, in general) to take advantage of these opportunities. I call this technique "moving platform stereos". You stay still, but the airplane (boat, etc) is moving. The end result is known as "hyperstereo". By definition, hyperstereo is any stereo pair taken with cameras/lenses separated wider than the spacing of the eyes. The visual effect is what Frank described, a giant whose eyes are spaced wider apart. OR, the entire scene looks like a small toy model and not real (for example, toy building, etc). The brain usually uses this second interpretation. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:24:21 2009 Received: (qmail 19432 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:24:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3553E18064 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEA2E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560BC19E510 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:24:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEC219E50F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so89648fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:24:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.149.207 with SMTP id k15mr933091hbb.48.1249478652453; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:24:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> <92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:24:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:24:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a798805171221357919056 =A0The end result is known as "hyperstereo". =A0By definition, > hyperstereo is any stereo pair taken with cameras/lenses separated wider > than the spacing of the eyes. =A0The visual effect is what Frank describe= d, a > giant whose eyes are spaced wider apart. =A0OR, the entire scene looks li= ke a > small toy model and not real (for example, toy building, etc). =A0The bra= in > usually uses this second interpretation. > > George So with a shift-lens you could do a "hypostereo" replicating a mice or birdsview? (just so you can start thinking about the shift lenses :) Iwert -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:38:01 2009 Received: (qmail 5521 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:38:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:38:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393A2E1817E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4545CE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C63534AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:37:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F306134AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW002PZOIGRRU4@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 08:37:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A798B18.3010804@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:37:28 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:38:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a798b39289432439112457 So we are just talking about the shutters firing at exactly the same time and NOT syncing with flash. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> I'm afraid you've overlooked the small detail that OMs' horizontal >> travel fabric shutters will synchronise at a maximum of 1/60s. > > No, I have not overlooked this fact, which is true for many SLR cameras... > Yet synchronization can be better than 1/60. Theoretically, it could be as > good as 1/1000. If the shutters are activated at exactly the same instant, > then the slits will travel parallel and synchronization can be achieved even > at 1/1000. > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:53:09 2009 Received: (qmail 26388 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:53:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:53:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B66EDC01E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80772E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6593F19E643 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3983F19E631 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:53:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so97015bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:52:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.157.140 with SMTP id q12mr888958hbc.80.1249480379680; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:52:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A797B1E.50005@verizon.net> References: <4A797B1E.50005@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:52:59 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 03728ede5e98a10d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:53:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a798ec5215524877110844 > > wow Ken, you really load up. > Did I really? I listed all the doo-dads in there too. If you look at just the primary equipment, I think that it was actually pretty minimal considering that I was shooting dual (actually triple with the E-1) film types. Except for the E-1 and the tripods, it all fit in a single SlingShot 300 AW. I was really wanting to leave all digital behind and in retrospect, I could have. But I brought it along for good reason--for that one type of shooting opportunity that digital is best at, but it never materialized THIS time, but it has in the past. As to the three OM bodies, that was a decent decision. The OM-4T had the winder slipping (I left all motordrives at home) and the OM-2S was doing color print film duty of specialty shots (time sequence of a storm cloud over a mountain) prior to being dragged into Provia/Velvia duty. The third body (whichever one not being actively used at the time) was stored with a body cap into a narrow slot in the bag. OM bodies take up very little space when they don't have motordrives and lenses attached. A person could travel much lighter if he settled on two zoom lenses and two bodies. A person could travel even lighter yet if they just stuck with digital and used one camera. When on a trip like this (especially when you have a "four-wheeled camera-bag" at your disposal, I'll tend to make sure that everything is covered "just in case". But when substantial foot-travel is involved, the kit gets small in a hurry. The easiest way to squish the kit is to forgo anything in the 300mm arena. 300mm lenses are big and heavy and take up as much space as two cameras with wide-angle lenses. I could have, and have, survived satisfactorily with just the 200/4 on the long end. In fact, just thinking this through a bit, except for the filter situation, I could live with two bodies, the 24/2.8, 35-80/2.8 and 200/4 in a minimalist kit. Considering the filter situation, it would be the 24/2.8, 35/2.8, 50/3.5, 100/2.8 and 200/4--give or take the 35 and 50. For several years my kit ONLY contained the 24/2.8, 35/2.8, 50/3.5, 100/2.8 and 200/4. The key advantage to having a lot of equipment is being able to select and customize the kit for specific applications. When event shooting, the kit is extremely tight. No lens changes unless I absolutely have to and flash gear abounds. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 15:58:35 2009 Received: (qmail 3095 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 13:58:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 13:58:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BD6E1806F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0105AE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E278E34AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5049134AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so100300bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:58:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.74 with SMTP id u10mr857264hbf.88.1249480706923; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:58:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:58:26 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: be08ae81e11d5714 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 15:58:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79900b30579752976205 > > Also, you can buy the 300mm lens for around $150 at KEH. So $299 today for > these two lenses is not a bargain. The "free market" priced this lot at > $208.45 a day ago. > Good point. But I'll say that if I was in the market for them, I'd gladly spend $299 for the two lenses and come away grinning. That said, I agree with you about the assessment on the pictures of the equipment. That's cheesy. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:07:18 2009 Received: (qmail 21743 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:07:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:07:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9590BE182B8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6031FE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470A519E68B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:07:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D27519E683 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:07:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so118811fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:07:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.74 with SMTP id u10mr858283hbf.88.1249481230477; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:07:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:07:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 395ca39e422bbbd8 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:07:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799216268561006886880 > > Provia or Ektar colour film. When I scan Provia to the same > dimensions, there is just absolutely no > (nada, zip) grain. I also find that colour slide film (ISO 100) has > vastly more resolution than ISO 100 > black and white film - not sure why this is? One apparently has to use > Pan F to match the resolution and (not > even then) the smoothnes of Provia 100F. > Provia 100F is smooth, but not the sharpest tack in the drawer. Velvia 50, Velvia 100, Astia 100F and 160S will all out-resolve Provia 100F. PanF absolutely blows them all away in the resolution department AND in tonal seperation. Scanned B&W is always going to be grainier than wet-printed B&W. There is a very disturbing interaction between the film grain and the linear sensor which causes aliasing artifacts accentuating the grain. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:08:19 2009 Received: (qmail 29507 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:08:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:08:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF3DE182B9 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680F2E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E13819E69E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E22919E671 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20090805140813H01002f47ie>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:08:14 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home><92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:07:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:08:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799253152804877110844 > So with a shift-lens you could do a "hypostereo" replicating a mice or > birdsview? (just so you can start thinking about the shift lenses :) Yes and no :) To take a hypostereo you need a close-focusing lens (like a macro lens) and a slide bar (the slide bar is almost a necessity in this case. You put the camera on the slide bar, take the first picture, shift/slide the camera by a small amount, take the other picture. The rule of thumb regarding the amount of shifting (also known as the "stereo base") is 1/30 the distance of the nearest object. You do not need a shift lens, just a regular lens. The camera is shifted by the required amount. The shift lens is commonly used to "correct" perspective. A stereo picture of a building taken with a shift lens, actually looks strange is 3d. Perspective is natural in 3d. "Perspective correction" is unnatural. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:14:02 2009 Received: (qmail 22347 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:14:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:14:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A580E1817E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B394E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1064F34AC008 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:13:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D5234AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:13:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so123614fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:13:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.178.195 with SMTP id a3mr945005hbg.39.1249481633956; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:13:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908050538gf443907i1ae809c2b13c1f05@mail.gmail.com> References: <200908050544.n755incA014828@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> <9e908c1f0908050538gf443907i1ae809c2b13c1f05@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:13:53 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e2477fe1c96fc57 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:14:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7993aa161271234514069 > > It's mostly all EXIT data, since it leaves my mind immediately. > On my trip I started out writing down a lot of info, but somehow I reverted back to old habits.... The B&W stuff was mostly taken in the OM-3Ti, so it was manual exposure, usually around F8 and the shutter-speeds between 1/2000 and 1 second. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:16:02 2009 Received: (qmail 26644 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:16:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D395E18228 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF08FE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F4A34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA8834AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:15:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so125101fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:15:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.72 with SMTP id h8mr611898hbc.128.1249481754994; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:15:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> <92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:15:54 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6330b49d2b55c871 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:16:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799422198564877110844 I'm finding this discussion of stereo photography to be VERY interesting! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:18:41 2009 Received: (qmail 26515 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:18:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:18:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19617E182CC for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859CCE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9F219E716 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FC819E713 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com (mail-qy0-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so107690qyk.22 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:18:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.92.5 with SMTP id p5mr8114653vcm.116.1249481914663; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:18:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A790E57.3020701@tx.rr.com> References: <4A790E57.3020701@tx.rr.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908050718u69d0d61ag781765f91ab8c5a8@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] olympus Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:18:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7994c137421234514069 Steve, Those father-daughter shots are a gas to zip through. Thanks for sharing. Joel W. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Steve & Alicia Goss wrote: > Chris- > Digital may not be quite there for you, but for what I shoot, It's > great. Most of my shots are informal Dad & Daughter portraits, and group > shots. (see , the shots with file > names that start with an underscore and then a number, in albums like > 6th rock climb 1, 7 Canoe 1, 5th Canoe 1, Sweetheart Banquet, Winter > 2009) I started doing these with film, but found that I was spending a > lot on film & processing. Plus I really like having a great zoom (14-54) > that will focus itself. > > I haven't given up on film entirely though, I still shoot a roll of > Kodachrome or two around Christmastime. > > Thanks, Steve Goss, Dallas Tx usa > > Chris Crawford wrote: > Digital is certainly good enough if you have the deep pockets that > people like J.P. Caponigro have. He's likely using a Canon EOS 1DsIII, > maybe even a medium format digital system. I know he uses Canon for a > lot of his work. For those of us who cannot afford $8000 camera bodies, > digital still isn't quite there. > -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:19:47 2009 Received: (qmail 25534 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:19:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DB9E18068 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6E9E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E4334AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9896234AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [207.115.11.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090805141845H030024eote>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:18:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <6D76CE0AD49641B8BBF1AC10F3DAFAD7@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:16:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:19:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799503160591073733319 > Good point. But I'll say that if I was in the market for them, I'd gladly > spend $299 for the two lenses and come away grinning. Depends who is selling them.... My high bid for the same lot was under $200,. that's why I did not get them at $208. I am still in the market for certain OM lenses. In a couple of weeks, when I am done buying, I will post here a list of every lens I got, the source and price I paid. Good research material for future investigators. :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:19:47 2009 Received: (qmail 1499 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:19:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E272EDC017 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F7CE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9ED19E713 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F4819E6F3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so113372bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:19:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.169.198 with SMTP id p6mr806774hbe.143.1249481960180; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:19:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> <92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:19:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:19:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79950330131258626592 I just tested and don't see a difference in perspective with camera or lens shifted, so if you have a shift lens that method could be used as well? The 35mm OM shift goes rather close @ 30cm close focus, add some extension rings and even closer :) Or am I wrong? Iwert ps: I know about the architectural part... that's why I love the OM-system:) 2009/8/5 DrT (George Themelis) : >> So with a shift-lens you could do a "hypostereo" replicating a mice or >> birdsview? (just so you can start thinking about the shift lenses :) > > Yes and no :) > > To take a hypostereo you need a close-focusing lens (like a macro lens) a= nd > a slide bar (the slide bar is almost a necessity in this case. =A0You put= the > camera on the slide bar, take the first picture, shift/slide the camera b= y a > small amount, take the other picture. =A0The rule of thumb regarding the > amount of shifting (also known as the "stereo base") is 1/30 the distance= of > the nearest object. > > You do not need a shift lens, just a regular lens. =A0The camera is shift= ed by > the required amount. > > The shift lens is commonly used to "correct" perspective. =A0A stereo pic= ture > of a building taken with a shift lens, actually looks strange is 3d. > Perspective is natural in 3d. =A0"Perspective correction" is unnatural. > > George > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:24:40 2009 Received: (qmail 10688 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:24:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA8CE18069 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661B2E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5CC34AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:24:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945B34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:24:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so116580bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:24:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.173.72 with SMTP id d8mr950482hbf.103.1249482270813; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:24:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6D76CE0AD49641B8BBF1AC10F3DAFAD7@home> References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <6D76CE0AD49641B8BBF1AC10F3DAFAD7@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:24:30 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d4af588337cf5668 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:24:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799628127801076813867 > In a couple of weeks, when I am done buying... ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bud, we're NEVER done buying OM gear. You really don't understand yet, do you? :) AG (just one more lens) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:25:25 2009 Received: (qmail 4788 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:25:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:25:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48853E182AF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B92E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5D934AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818B634AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW004DFQPH5OD6@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:24:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A799635.4080004@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:24:53 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] another Pen F Service question... 60mm f1.5 aperture X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:25:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799654131656107113666 Diaphragm ring could have dried lube in it. Is this an Olympus lens? If it's built like other Pen lenses, remove name ring, remove filter ring. Unscrew front lens group, focus all the way out (on some pen lenses, dia ring tab will not clear inner parts unless focused out) then remove dia. ring. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Hello everybody, > > after succesful recalibration of my Pen FT meter by carefull wigling > of the speed knob, > I'm looking for a solution to a problem my 60mm f1.5 developed: > > The aperture ring is stiff between f4 and F11, aperture is dry and snappy. > It is an FT lens so with the reversible scale. I have an exploded view diagramm > from the book of John Foster (biofos), but that shows the first "F > version" of the lens. > > Question is how to get at the ring? I suppose a carefull cleaning of > the inner parts > of the ring will do, but don't know how to get at it (and I'm not in a > mood to experiment > with this lens :) > > Many thanks for any advice, > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:26:18 2009 Received: (qmail 13577 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:26:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCBEE18177 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2ABE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1F719E76C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4854819E746 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so117565bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:26:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.69 with SMTP id 5mr992271hbu.4.1249482370926; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:26:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> <92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:26:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 059529f63400c775 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:26:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79968a262741357919056 > > I just tested and don't see a difference in perspective with camera or > lens shifted, > I think you have to shift the lens AND camera. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:29:55 2009 Received: (qmail 1471 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:29:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:29:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBFAE182AD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F035BE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E777034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:29:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D0434AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:29:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW00325QXHWED5@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:29:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A799755.400@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:29:41 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> In-reply-to: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home> Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:29:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799763311971234514069 don't bend.......imo ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Sorry, my mistake, got stuck on the notion of synchronising 2 cameras >> and a flash. I see now - you meant putting one camera in front of the >> other, not looking through both side-by side. > > Yes, that's right.... By putting the cameras in front of each other and > observing the afterimage of the combined shutter openings when they fire, > you can tell how well they are synchronized, and you can do this at various > speeds. > > There was a couple of well-known stereo photographers (two brothers) who > synchronized two mechanical cameras (not Olympus) using relays which were > electrically activated and mechanically pressed the camera shutters. They > claimed perfect synchronization and, to prove it, took pictures of action > sports events in the Winter Olympics many years ago. > > The Olympus Winder 2 system is similar to using relays. I wonder if it is > possible to make very small adjustments by slightly bending the pins that > activates the shutters... > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:33:20 2009 Received: (qmail 31464 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:33:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:33:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC127E18177 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE15E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456EA19E789 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:33:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002F319E77F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:33:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW00L7DR34TXSD@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:33:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A799820.5000103@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:33:04 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:33:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799830116281076813867 Very nice work Joel. I especially like the flowers, 326 &329. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Joel Wilcox wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:36:32 2009 Received: (qmail 16537 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:36:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:36:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA68E18177 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F73FE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4844634AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:36:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267EB34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:36:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090805143626H030024bdse>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:36:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home><92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home><67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:35:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:36:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7998f0195941879814018 > I just tested and don't see a difference in perspective with camera or > lens shifted, so if you have a shift lens that method could be used as > well? Yes, you might be right. The only experience with shifting lenses that I have is with a Minolta macro lens in the Minolta bellows that have shift & tilt control. I was able to take stereo pictures by shifting the lens (in the bellows), instead of the entire camera. I cannot recall now what are the differences between the two methods, but either should work. One limitation of the shift lens method is that the amount of shift is limited. How much will the Olympus shift lens shift? Under 10mm I would guess. You mentioned close focusing at 30cm. The rule of thumb gives 30cm/30 = 1 cm (10mm). With a macro lens on a slide bar, the physical limit on the amount of shift is the total shift range of the slide bar, which is around 80mm for the Bogen slide bar I am using. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:37:58 2009 Received: (qmail 15286 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:37:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9950BE182B5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922F7E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AB134AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E091A34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:37:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (smtp-out3.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.178]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYhcl-00009W-OC for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:37:51 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:37:22 +0200 Message-ID: <8a5j75tul0htr0lp7ur9e3b7mjbe3bpf62@4ax.com> References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home><92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home> <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> In-Reply-To: <67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:37:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799946293461357919056 I have once tried to make a stereo with a very special lens, intended for looking into throats, knees, bellies, etcetera. A fiber light source can be attached. It is an Olympus endoscope (aka borescope) of the rigid type; flexible endoscopes don't give enough image quality to work with. With an adapter it can be mounted to OM and E-series cameras. It has a very wide angle, and because of its small size (2 or 3 mm across) it can be used perfectly to make pictures of the interior of doll's houses, the inside of flowers, etcetera. But I have never succeeded to make a good stereo picture with it, probably because the amount of shifting needed between pictures is too small... Frank. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:07:41 -0400, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >To take a hypostereo you need a close-focusing lens (like a macro lens) and >a slide bar (the slide bar is almost a necessity in this case. You put the >camera on the slide bar, take the first picture, shift/slide the camera by a >small amount, take the other picture. The rule of thumb regarding the >amount of shifting (also known as the "stereo base") is 1/30 the distance of >the nearest object. > >You do not need a shift lens, just a regular lens. The camera is shifted by >the required amount. > >The shift lens is commonly used to "correct" perspective. A stereo picture >of a building taken with a shift lens, actually looks strange is 3d. >Perspective is natural in 3d. "Perspective correction" is unnatural. > >George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:43:46 2009 Received: (qmail 17526 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:43:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:43:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB3DE18062 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF796E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F9634AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B2334AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090805144341H030024dk1e>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:43:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <0EA0D4AB734E4FCEA3E8DE808BBFBA97@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home><6D76CE0AD49641B8BBF1AC10F3DAFAD7@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:43:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:43:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799aa2169616789618724 > Bud, we're NEVER done buying OM gear. > You really don't understand yet, do you? :) Don't worry, I am very familiar with the concept :) This is only the first phase. I started from zero. I need some (rather basic) camera bodies and lenses right away so I can get started with Olympus OM stereo. Once these basic needs are fulfilled (which is what I really meant to say), I will then become like the rest of you :) Take my time, look for bargains, rare items (at reasonable prices), sell excess inventory in ebay, etc. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:47:02 2009 Received: (qmail 1416 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:47:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:47:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65B4E182B4 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E34E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9716C34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F31B34AC008 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW0086LRPN74A5@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:46:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A799B4B.40805@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:46:35 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200908050540.n755e657027927@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-reply-to: <200908050540.n755e657027927@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] OM2 that I just got.... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:47:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799b66244324877110844 I still sell ORIGINAL OEM OLYMPUS BLACK MD CAPS. (chrome sold out) http://www.zuiko.com/index_016.htm ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> DrT \(George Themelis\) wrote: >> >> >> So, I find a link showing where the cap is supposed to be stored inside >> the >> battery compartment of the winder. I check and it is there! Another >> relief... >> >> I know these are "old news" for all of you... but I am learning new >> things >> every day :) >> > > There is a small company (maybe just 1 bloke), Beljan Manufacturing that makes replacement caps (and other stuff) and occasionally sells on that big auction site. Excellent products and great service. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:49:49 2009 Received: (qmail 14653 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:49:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA23E180B5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A21BE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5A419E833 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:49:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DD319E80C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:49:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6474369.10061249484523924.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 139 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:49:32 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN><25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN> <11741777.9701249465460365.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:49:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799c0d107281006886880 That may very well be. I am sure they also had to accept some compromises to achieve the small physical lens size (even the f/2 lenses are considerably smaller than any of their competitors that I have seen) - similar to how Leica allows their fast lenses to have serious light falloff towards the corners. On 05 Aug 2009, at 12:30 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > I was just joking, OM 35/2's performance is indeed very good. For the > extreme corners, there is no hope, all Zuiko F2 wide has the same > problem, I > believe the designer expected the corners to be covered by slide > mount. > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 16:52:27 2009 Received: (qmail 7374 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 14:52:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 14:52:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB18E182CC for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E705E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C0234AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:52:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522F334AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:52:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 07:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNW00LVPRZ0ZT66@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:52:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A799C9C.1090105@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:52:12 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] 60mm f1.5 aperture fixed! X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 16:52:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a799cab306861234514069 Good job! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Well, I opened the lens, > > To get to the mechanism a total dismantling was needed, luckily the > pen F lenses are > made in good fashion. I cleaned the mechanism but the brass ring > inside the alumiunum > housing was still stiff when closing the aperture from about f4-f16. > I looked at the mechanism and could not discover anything strange. The fitting > of the brass and aluminum should not be greased I think, since there > is a huge contact > surface (it is a very thick, about 1,5cm) ring and the grease would be more > like glue :). > > So after looking cerafully from all sides what could be the problem > the only cause > could be something with the opening in the aluminum to get the > aperture linking lever > to the aperture ring where the brass ring always had resistance. First > I thought some parts might > be out of round causing the resistance. But looking with a looking > glass I discovered > a very, very small metal burr at one edge of the opening in the aluminum. > I removed this carefully and softened the edge a bit, et voila, problem solved. > > In a way I'm happy I opened up the lens, since it was apparently servised before > and rather greasy inside, and the last "repairman" left blobs of black paint > on almost every screw which was now coming off and starting to find > its way inside the lens. > > Also when dismantling the lens the front element assembly was very > loose in it's fitting > and now sits snug and tight again. > > So this beauty is ready for use again :) no images of the repair > process, but just for beauty and in honor > of Maitani-San: > > > > Iwert > > 2009/8/5 Chuck Norcutt : >> It sounds to me like the inner part of the ring and the detent ball need >> to be cleaned and lubed. But that doesn't tell you how to get to the ring. >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> iwert bernakiewicz wrote: >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> after succesful recalibration of my Pen FT meter by carefull wigling >>> of the speed knob, >>> I'm looking for a solution to a problem my 60mm f1.5 developed: >>> >>> The aperture ring is stiff between f4 and F11, aperture is dry and snappy. >>> It is an FT lens so with the reversible scale. I have an exploded view diagramm >>> from the book of John Foster (biofos), but that shows the first "F >>> version" of the lens. >>> >>> Question is how to get at the ring? I suppose a carefull cleaning of >>> the inner parts >>> of the ring will do, but don't know how to get at it (and I'm not in a >>> mood to experiment >>> with this lens :) >>> >>> Many thanks for any advice, >>> >>> Iwert >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:12:33 2009 Received: (qmail 4263 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:12:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:12:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9094AE182B0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ADDE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CFA34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8870034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n75FCNeR025869 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:12:23 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <17D4137CFC414AD8921ECC48631D0FAE@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN><25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN><11741777.9701249465460365.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <6474369.10061249484523924.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:12:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:12:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a161108964877110844 Not only Olympus, looking at the MTF of many wide lenses, they fall to 'earth' at the corner. BTW, the 24/2 at F4 performs better than a late design 17-40L (at 24/F4) even on the edges. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawid Loubser" > That may very well be. I am sure they also had to accept some > compromises to > achieve the small physical lens size (even the f/2 lenses are > considerably smaller > than any of their competitors that I have seen) - similar to how Leica > allows > their fast lenses to have serious light falloff towards the corners. > > On 05 Aug 2009, at 12:30 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> I was just joking, OM 35/2's performance is indeed very good. For the >> extreme corners, there is no hope, all Zuiko F2 wide has the same >> problem, I >> believe the designer expected the corners to be covered by slide >> mount. >> >> C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:24:07 2009 Received: (qmail 22466 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:24:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:24:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE01E182B8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89680E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EB819E973 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2E519E967 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:24:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a79a4061a8; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:23:50 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.cd0.4724095c (39953) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:23:42 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:23:41 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.139 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:24:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a41780661357919056 And a bit foolish if you plan to resell them. I've bought and sold a bunch of stuff over the past few years and when selling I always attempt to price an item fairly for what the market is at the time, without regard to what I have paid for it. I also try to give better service and guarantee than any other seller. Money is always cheerfully refunded if buyer is not satisfied with their purchase. Fortunately that has only happen a time or two and the buyer was right and I made it "right" for them. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/5/2009 9:19:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, drt-3d@att.net writes: In a couple of weeks, when I am done buying, I will post here a list of every lens I got, the source and price I paid. Good research material for future investigators. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:30:19 2009 Received: (qmail 32735 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:30:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:30:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB9AE1822D for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89645E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ED819E9AD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F58919E9A5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a79a580ee; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:30:08 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.be0.60dd4a64 (39953) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:29:59 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:29:59 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:30:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a58b278011342116753 In a message dated 8/5/2009 8:58:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: That said, I agree with you about the assessment on the pictures of the equipment. That's cheesy. That has resulted in my getting some great deals over the years. It isn't going to guarantee a good deal, however it is a first step if you ask the right questions. The ones I really use to like were the sellers who had no pictures or really crappy descriptions. One with crummy pictures included an OM 2, 21mm f2 and another lens or two for around $125. This has been a few years and I'll probably never sell the 21mm, so I'll let all share in the "Fang." Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:42:38 2009 Received: (qmail 25998 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:42:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:42:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FED5E182DA for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01957E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA82234AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:42:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55EA34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5824608.10071249487692349.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 53 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:54:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:42:21 +0200 References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home><92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home><67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:42:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a86e25041006886880 It seems possible (though it doesn't make sense to me) that a shift lens indeed works, but I think only for very close-up subjects. Here's an example: http://www.flickr.com/photos/turbguy/2332656395/sizes/l/ (Why I say it doesn't make sense, I thought the very basis of stereo is to have two physically different points of view, e.g. like our eyes are separated. With a shift lens, the camera is stationary, so the point of view is the same, is it not? (i.e. the location of the film plane does not change when shifting the lens) On 05 Aug 2009, at 4:35 PM, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> I just tested and don't see a difference in perspective with camera >> or >> lens shifted, so if you have a shift lens that method could be used >> as >> well? > > Yes, you might be right. The only experience with shifting lenses > that I > have is with a Minolta macro lens in the Minolta bellows that have > shift & > tilt control. I was able to take stereo pictures by shifting the > lens (in > the bellows), instead of the entire camera. I cannot recall now > what are > the differences between the two methods, but either should work. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:44:10 2009 Received: (qmail 2690 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:44:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:44:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA1BE182AF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C927E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1501634AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:44:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEEB34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <17727023.10081249487785066.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 389 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:56:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <17D4137CFC414AD8921ECC48631D0FAE@MAIN> X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:43:54 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN><25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><6722F25C6AC24DA3A590D974A3207598@MAIN><11741777.9701249465460365.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <6474369.10061249484523924.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <17D4137CFC414AD8921ECC48631D0FAE@MAIN> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:44:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a8ca68632439112457 Oh yes, that is my experience also. I used to use the 16-35 f/2.8, and the 24/2.0 is much much much better. On 05 Aug 2009, at 5:12 PM, C.H.Ling wrote: > Not only Olympus, looking at the MTF of many wide lenses, they fall to > 'earth' at the corner. BTW, the 24/2 at F4 performs better than a late > design 17-40L (at 24/F4) even on the edges. > > C.H.Ling -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:45:32 2009 Received: (qmail 982 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:45:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:45:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199A4E18256 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5ADDE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C267534AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:45:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FC834AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:45:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090805154506H04008sd8je>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:45:07 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <4EB1C634F5134EAE9337E7DDE5034967@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:42:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:45:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a91c130481744846740 > That has resulted in my getting some great deals over the years. That's why I said I don't always follow my own advice :) > One with crummy pictures included > an OM 2, 21mm f2 and another lens or two for around $125. This has been a > few years and I'll probably never sell the 21mm, so I'll let all share in > the "Fang." Bill Barber Don't worry Bill... even if you decide to sell the 21mm, no one is going to expect you to sell it for what you paid :) If you can find a good deal, that's great. Asking reasonable prices is OK too. I used to have two ebay accounts. One to buy (3d mainly) bargains. The second, to sell the bargains at reasonable market prices. I too did not want people to know what I actually paid for the stuff I was selling. Now, I don't care any more (plus ebay has made it a bit harder to research this) so I am only using my main account to buy and sell. If someone has the time and desire to do the research, good for them. I am not very sensitive any more :) Also, most of my auctions start at $9.95 or $0.01 so I let the market decide the value of the stuff I sell. If someone can get the same stuff for less elsewhere, that's fine by me. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:46:47 2009 Received: (qmail 20084 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:46:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:46:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B452E182AF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E76E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E0C19EA3A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:46:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BBE19EA26 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <30353326.10091249487946249.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 231 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:59:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:46:35 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:46:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a967296661357919056 I had a similar experience. I got my 24/2.0 for ~ $200 because of a poor eBay description. Sure, the lens had yellowed a bit, but sunlight (UV) treatment seems to have cleared it up nicely. On 05 Aug 2009, at 5:29 PM, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > The ones I really use to like were the sellers who had no > pictures or really crappy descriptions. One with crummy pictures > included > an OM 2, 21mm f2 and another lens or two for around $125. This has > been a > few years and I'll probably never sell the 21mm, so I'll let all > share in > the "Fang." Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 17:47:49 2009 Received: (qmail 7539 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 15:47:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 15:47:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C443FE18177 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB32E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22DF34AC00C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2026E34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:47:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 231 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:59:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:47:13 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 17:47:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79a9a5187121744846740 Hi Ken, I agree on all counts, Velvia 50 is sharper, but I use Provia more. Still, both Provia and Velvia have more (apparent, in anyway, based on my scanning tests) resolution and less grain the Ilford FP4, my ~ISO100 black and white film of choice. I do also find that scanned B&W have shockingly / disturbingly much more grain than wet-printed B&W, which is why I am taking to scanning my wet prints (where available). This has its own problems, but the grain is much less apparent. In all of this, I prefer a 100% analog B&W workflow. Hybrid really does not make sense, just get a good DSLR which will have a bit less of the resolution, and 0% of the grain, of film. For colour, the only reason I use a hybrid workflow is because I have no taken to wet-printing colour (yet?), colour film (all of them) have a much wider gamut of colours than any DSLR I've seen, and medium format resolution is amazing. On 05 Aug 2009, at 4:07 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > Provia 100F is smooth, but not the sharpest tack in the drawer. > Velvia 50, > Velvia 100, Astia 100F and 160S will all out-resolve Provia 100F. > PanF > absolutely blows them all away in the resolution department AND in > tonal > seperation. > > Scanned B&W is always going to be grainier than wet-printed B&W. > There is a > very disturbing interaction between the film grain and the linear > sensor > which causes aliasing artifacts accentuating the grain. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 18:01:31 2009 Received: (qmail 9809 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 16:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 16:01:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C24E182DC for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0532E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9359619EA91 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5306A19EAC6 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090805160124H05002ik2ne>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:01:24 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <6179073655DE4272B0B47FDC937F2BDD@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home><92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home><67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> <5824608.10071249487692349.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:01:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 18:01:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79acdb213136789618724 > It seems possible (though it doesn't make sense to me) that a shift > lens indeed works, [...] I thought the very basis of stereo > is to have two physically different points of view, e.g. like our eyes > are separated. With a shift lens, the camera is stationary, so the point > of view is the same, is it not? No, it is not. It is the lens that determines the point of view, not the camera. The camera just holds the film/sensor where the image is recorded. As a matter of fact, a stereo camera has two lenses and one camera body. The person whose picture you linked: http://www.flickr.com/photos/turbguy/2332656395/ is a member of our stereo club here in Ohio, but recently relocated. The description reads: "Here's a cross view of a macro photograph taken with a shifted lens and a shifted camera (slide bar) to avoid keystone distrortion yet obtain a full field view. " He combined the shift lens and a shifted camera in order to "obtain a full field of view". It takes some knowlege and experience to understand what this means. When you take a close up by shifting the camera, you need to crop the outer edges of the stereo pair, in order to "set the stereo window" (helps in the presentation). This is not a problem in digital but it can be a problem with slide film. Cropping the edges results in a smaller image. This fellow combined the shift of the camera with the shift of the lens, to reduce the need of cropping. The exact details are not clear to me. I know that if you shift the camera and *tilt* (not shift) the lens (or camera), then you don't need to crop. These are details that don't need to confuse the beginner... The simplest way to take a stereo picture is to shift one camera (with lens attached :)). If you have a shift lens, apparently shifting the lens between the two extremes right and left, will work too, but the "stereo base" might be less than optimum for anything other than extreme close ups. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 18:16:36 2009 Received: (qmail 18736 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 16:16:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 16:16:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C40E182B3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1CBE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C6719EB08 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52F119EB29 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:16:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so210512fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:16:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.67 with SMTP id 3mr958115hbu.63.1249488983784; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:16:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:16:23 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a24fffe33c2fc5f4 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 18:16:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79b06486501879814018 > > I agree on all counts, Velvia 50 is sharper, but I use Provia more. > Velvia 100 (not 100F) is actually better on the MTF graphs than Velvia 50. When comparing high-contrast details, Velvia 50 appears better than Velvia 100 or Provia 100F, but when comparing lower contrast details, Velvia 100 pulls out ahead of both. Provia 100F is actually quite poor in this area. All of the Velvia and Provia 100 speed films suffer from lateral halation, so bleed-over of higher-contrast details is common. Provia 100F is typically more "usable" than Velvia 50/100 because it is more scannable and skintones stay more neutral. Velvia 100F is a lost cause and simply doesn't seem to have a home--It's like Provia 100F with some attitude--attitude which can be easily done in post. But Velvia 100F, like Provia 100F, does give smoother skies. Honestly, though, in MOST conditions, if you rate Velvia 100 at ISO 80 or Velvia 50 at ISO 40, you are hard-pressed to identify a slide as being Velvia and not Provia. They both are pretty saturated. Still, both Provia and Velvia have more (apparent, in anyway, based on my > scanning tests) resolution and less grain the Ilford FP4, my ~ISO100 black > and white film of choice. > I've personally found FP4 to have horrid lateral halation issues, but others seem to do OK. I suspect that part of my problem is the developer (DD-X) and my agitation method. > I do also find that scanned B&W have shockingly / disturbingly much > more grain than wet-printed B&W, which is why I am taking to scanning my > wet prints (where available). This has its own problems, but the grain is > much less apparent. > I'm perfectly happy with wet-printed B&W and also find that digitizing an 8x10 print to be the best compromise. I can get better tonalities in the darkroom print and then the scanned print is subject to editing. I haven't done much of this, though. > For colour, the only reason I use a hybrid workflow is because I have > no taken to wet-printing colour (yet?), colour film (all of them) have a > much wider gamut of colours than any DSLR I've seen, and medium format > resolution is amazing. > I've gone to calling this "Delayed Digital Capture". In the end, it all ends up as a digital file, but I'm just delaying the A-D step by using an intermediate technology. This intermediate technology is in essence an optical filter which changes the colors, contrasts, etc. Sometimes you want it to be as close to linear as possible, other times, you want to embrace what it is doing. Inotherwords, Velvia is just another form of Cokin filter. I absolutely agree about the wider gamut of colors. Sunset/Sunrise skies are extremely troublesome for digital cameras. The way the high values block up and transition is very ugly and HDR is usually the only way to make the images anywhere near acceptable. Meanwhile, film has a self-attenuation mechanism with extreme bright sources. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 18:24:01 2009 Received: (qmail 17143 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 16:24:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 16:24:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F1AE18228 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D0CE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A76F34AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:23:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE57034AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n75GNolK025494; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:23:53 GMT Message-ID: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:24:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 18:24:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79b221103305368819438 I liked this combination of back lighting and front lighting to bring out folage detail. Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro lens, processed in PSE 6.0. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Blackberry+Vine.jpg.html Comments and critiques welcomed. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 18:35:38 2009 Received: (qmail 11501 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 16:35:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 16:35:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0643E18228 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722DDE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5F534AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD9634AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-vw0-f188.google.com (mail-vw0-f188.google.com [209.85.212.188]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws26 with SMTP id 26so196080vws.26 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:35:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.80.134 with SMTP id t6mr5571739vck.108.1249490131497; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:35:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A799820.5000103@verizon.net> References: <9e908c1f0908041048n273efba1k104f6db4c68792e1@mail.gmail.com> <4A799820.5000103@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:35:31 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908050935g2bf92b97p106723060d1e57a9@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 2 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 18:35:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79b4da66901357919056 Thanks John. I'm pretty sure 326 was taken with 85/2 and 7mm tube. 329 is too close for the 85, even with the tube, so I think it was with the 50/1.2 + 7mm tube. If flat field is not an issue, that's a pretty light kit while still retaining moderate macro capability and decent bokeh. Joel W. On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:33 AM, John Hermanson wrote: > Very nice work Joel. =A0I especially like the flowers, 326 &329. > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson =A0| =A0 CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 =A0| =A0www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621943403744/ >> >> Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 18:49:29 2009 Received: (qmail 12985 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 16:49:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 16:49:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75EDE18255 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8957AE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2874E19EC31 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967AE19EBDE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 09:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYjfy-0004uW-EO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:49:18 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4EB1C634F5134EAE9337E7DDE5034967@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:49:15 +0100 Message-ID: <91316C191D424D9E8997FE2FFAD50440@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4EB1C634F5134EAE9337E7DDE5034967@home> Thread-Index: AcoV48rwo4fo7NnGQ/ipG5x7v5cfNgACGs0g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090805-0, 05/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 18:49:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79b819161871073733319 Amen to that, George, especially in view of the exposure meter you just sold ... for more than it could have been bought from KEH. I actually bid over the KEH price myself, because your shipping costs to Europe were much more reasonable - but there is a limit! :-) Piers -----Original Message----- From: DrT (George Themelis) [mailto:drt-3d@att.net] Sent: 05 August 2009 16:43 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 --snip Also, most of my auctions start at $9.95 or $0.01 so I let the market decide the value of the stuff I sell. If someone can get the same stuff for less elsewhere, that's fine by me. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:22:33 2009 Received: (qmail 26312 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:22:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:22:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61146E182E5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D15E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A282319ED3E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4C319ED58 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090805172226H02001mrp1e>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:22:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <2C80F75BF404455187FC525C44C6E878@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4EB1C634F5134EAE9337E7DDE5034967@home> <91316C191D424D9E8997FE2FFAD50440@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:22:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:22:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79bfd9168905368819438 Thanks Pier... One of my main jobs is selling items on commission, mostly in ebay. My specialty is stereo photography (first) and photography in general (second). My commission rates and other details are here: www.sell-3d.com My ebay store is here: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/DrT-3d This light meter (and most of my ebay auctions right now, except for the Nikon items... remember, I am selling my Nikon equipment to buy Olympus OM) were given to me to sell, from people who are retiring from photography. When I got into this current Olympus-buying phase, I searched my files and found that I have sold several collections of Olympus OM equipment for my customers in the past. Apparently, I was not sufficiently impressed at the time, to consider keeping some of these items myself. I thought that Minolta, Pentax, and Nikon made better (for my needs) equipment. Now I see things differently (maturity?) Regarding international shipping, for lightweight items I use first class mail. If an item is heavy and flat and fits, I try to use the flat rate priority envelopes. This is generally cheaper than standard priority mail. The catch is that it does not have tracking. But I rarely have a problem. I will accept the risk to save my buyers money. A lot of sellers will charge a lot of money for Express Mail, just to be safe. I use Express mail too, but only for heavy and expensive items. George > Amen to that, George, especially in view of the exposure meter you just > sold > ... for more than it could have been bought from KEH. I actually bid over > the KEH price myself, because your shipping costs to Europe were much more > reasonable - but there is a limit! > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:24:14 2009 Received: (qmail 27236 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:24:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:24:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1737E180CD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A52DE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277F319EA87 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:24:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F81619E758 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-vw0-f188.google.com (mail-vw0-f188.google.com [209.85.212.188]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws26 with SMTP id 26so228839vws.26 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:24:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.80.134 with SMTP id t6mr5660025vck.108.1249493048841; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> References: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:24:08 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908051024h5c6a163ep4884310cc644b57b@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:24:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c03e55873900897491 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jim Nichols wrote: > I liked this combination of back lighting and front lighting to bring out folage detail. Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro lens, processed in PSE 6.0. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Blackberry+Vine.jpg.html > > Comments and critiques welcomed. Very striking. The light is very confusing but interesting. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:29:47 2009 Received: (qmail 30124 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD150E1807A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550DFE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3708919ED82 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C7F19ED10 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:29:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:29:01 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n75HSvca015135 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:29:00 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> <9e908c1f0908051024h5c6a163ep4884310cc644b57b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:29:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:29:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c18b236252013633067 Thanks, Joel. The way the light was striking the leaves caught my eye. Depending on the orientation of the leaves, some got strong backlighting, while others were struck from the front and side. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Wilcox" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jim Nichols > wrote: >> I liked this combination of back lighting and front lighting to bring out >> folage detail. Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro lens, processed >> in PSE 6.0. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Blackberry+Vine.jpg.html >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. > > Very striking. The light is very confusing but interesting. > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:32:56 2009 Received: (qmail 6956 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:32:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB0EE18236 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793D1E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FF834AC00B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:32:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6724634AC008 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n75HWewu005831 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:32:40 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bd1.5b99cc4d (37529) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dc02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc02.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.2]) by cia-mb01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB012-d2f34a79c2281b2; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:32:28 -0400 Received: from FWM-M35 (fwm-m35.webmail.aol.com [64.12.193.237]) by smtprly-dc02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC022-d2f34a79c2281b2; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:32:24 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:32:24 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 64.212.90.254 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 64.212.90.254 by FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com (64.12.193.237) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:32:24 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE409D417DAC2-159C-A56@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Shims for focusing screens in OM? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:32:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c248270961744846740 Very clear that many Canyon offerings may front or back focus through the VF using MF . I believe that the OM 5DII has a small shim for the screen and replacemnts both thicker and thinner are available. The range of "in spec" for servicing is disturbingly wide, unless a nice technician is encountered. Have not seen this issue mentioned much with OM. Perhaps a MF system is manufactured to tighter tolerances? It would be more of a pain to check of course. Wonder if John can check this somehow. I know from many very narrow dof shots in macro at 1:1 or greater that at least 2 bodies I have are spot on or very close. A not really looking for trouble, Mike Oh, then this issue also needs to be considered of course for digital film for zuikos. Posted this before: http://www.jayandwanda.com/photography/dslr_man_focus/man_focus.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:45:35 2009 Received: (qmail 27576 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:45:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:45:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E791E182B0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE827E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5AF19EDD0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD53919EDAA for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so267357fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:45:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.142 with SMTP id s14mr876909hbe.89.1249494327874; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:45:27 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OT New possibilities for street shooters. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:45:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c53f207501220213263 Hi Moose and all, From: Moose >Ricoh soldiers on with the GR III, with a faster lens and, among other >things, >It also gains faster AF and a 'full-press snap' mode that jumps to a >preset focus distance for fast street shooting." Never have used a Ricoh digital, but I had a (film) GR-1 with the 28mm lens. Although very nice optically and with more control than the typical P&S, AF performance was rather disappointing for my taste -- about 1 sec. from full press and actual shutter release. It ruined many "could you please press here" pics, where the innocent helper pressed the button and, while getting the camera off his/her eye, there was the flash dump... And yes, it had a 'snap' mode for hyperfocal prefocusing... but only saved the calculation time: the lens had still to move physically to that fixed distance setting any time -- circa 0.5 sec. There was, however, a nearly-instant mode, the obscure 'single shot AF' mode: with a cumbersome button combination, it focused (and moved the lens accordingly) to whatever was in front of it, keeping that distance setting until disabled. It was necessarily linked to the spot meter, though. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:50:54 2009 Received: (qmail 9084 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:50:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:50:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B85E180CA for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D19BE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E77E19EDF6 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA93519ED91 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so270482fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.13 with SMTP id r13mr880668hbd.159.1249494644164; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:50:44 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:50:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c67e212911612113968 Hi Moose and all, From: Moose >I believe the reasons the OM-1 has been such a popular camera for >astro-photography in spite of the limitation are two. First, the mirror >lock up lever gives the impression of vibration free shutter release. >Second, the actual vibration time is so short relative to the total >exposure that it has no noticeable effect. I think you're right about the second reason... but IMHO the main advantages of the OM-1 (or the -2, I'd say) in astrophotography (yes, I'm in it, too) are: *LIGHTWEIGHT -- makes tracking MUCH easier! *Great selection of specialized focusing screens. The Nik*n F and F2 have an even larger range, but they're much heavier. Same for the F3, whose mechanical shutter is rather cumbersome to use. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:55:14 2009 Received: (qmail 31880 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:55:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:55:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AB1E180B6 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7987AE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60ACA34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:55:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA5A34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so273133fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.13 with SMTP id r13mr881148hbd.159.1249494907269; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Weird, funky bokeh X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:55:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c782294191612113968 Hi Mike and all, >Never have seen swirl bokeh before. >Might be like HDR-- a few go a long way and then queasiness sets in. > >Mike > >http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=497450 It's not that unusual... I've seen similar things (or, more accurately, like the Yashica sample) with simple MF cameras. I don't think it's related to spherical aberration, because it affects all of the picture equally -- centre and corners. Probably a combination of coma, astigmatism and field curvature with some mechanical vignetting... Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 19:57:23 2009 Received: (qmail 1067 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 17:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 17:57:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402BAE180B5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2679E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08EC34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A4434AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so274333fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:57:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.19 with SMTP id b19mr925807hbg.2.1249495037077; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:57:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Very sad day : Long live Maitani San X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 19:57:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c803269475683411216 Hi all, I feel really sad for Maitani's death... I'll try to enjoy the OM system even more! Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 20:02:11 2009 Received: (qmail 19954 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 18:02:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 18:02:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40FE1817A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CECE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7647919EE5C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:02:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5D719EC2A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:02:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so246344bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:02:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.159.208 with SMTP id z16mr897232hbc.8.1249495322502; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:02:02 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Film vs digital (OM Lot) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 20:02:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c923159351234514069 Hi George and all, From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" >I wonder if there are people in this list *actively* shooting film with >their Olympus OM cameras. If so, why? Me! Although I don't shoot now as much as before, the OM system (I own several brands) is the favourite for trips. >Even though I use digital exclusively for "work" (web/ebay), Me too! My only digital is an EOS-300D, while I own... too many film cameras ;-) >for personal >photography I use slide film in my stereo cameras. I have made some stereo in the past... I use slide and B&W (developed by myself) for personal pics. Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 20:04:51 2009 Received: (qmail 4099 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 18:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 18:04:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66485E1806B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2B7E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4F634AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:04:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0834AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so247719bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.83 with SMTP id s19mr983687hbd.110.1249495483102; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:04:43 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 20:04:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79c9c3273381879814018 Hi C.H., Dawid and all, From: Dawid Loubser >P.S. Your image has again awakened the need within myself to get an OM >35/2.0 lens! The quality is highly >impressive, I can't believe anybody ever complains about that lens >being "soft" But look at the corners... and that's well stopped down! OTOH, I'm really happy with my "new to me" 24/2 ;^) On 04 Aug 2009, at 4:00 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > Shot with OM 35/2 at F5.6 handheld: > > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/IMG_5761.JPG (4.8MB) Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 20:07:31 2009 Received: (qmail 7522 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 18:07:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 18:07:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F00E182AD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B370E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C93919EEB3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B5B19EEF2 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so249107bwz.14 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:07:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.10 with SMTP id g10mr850542hbc.20.1249495643871; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:07:23 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 20:07:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79ca6372281234514069 Hi Chris and all, From: Chris Barker >The result is a strange startup >behaviour, with Winders-like scrolling information before it gets to >the normal login screen ... I think you're in 'verbose mode' -- I can't recall the command to switch back to the "Apple-like" mode, but surely you can search in Apple support web. >By the way, the 13" MBPro is small enough for you to save your money >on the Air, I should have said. I really don't see the point of the Air... what I'd like from Apple is a thing like the EEE-PC... Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 20:26:18 2009 Received: (qmail 2556 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 18:26:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 18:26:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC047E182CA for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C29E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD7634AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FD23610002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so921273fga.13 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.208 with SMTP id o16mr996682hbb.49.1249496764967; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBE409D417DAC2-159C-A56@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBE409D417DAC2-159C-A56@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:26:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 577520998f9d730f Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Shims for focusing screens in OM? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 20:26:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79ceca288001413256596 > > A not really looking for trouble, > Mike > Obviously your eyesight is fuzzy. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 21:02:43 2009 Received: (qmail 13786 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 19:02:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 19:02:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAAA7E18061 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030EEE240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB18634AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B5934AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:55958 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MYlkm-00072v-Kd (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 19:02:29 +0000 Message-Id: <3CFBE591-4FAB-4398-9499-F9B7541E7B48@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:02:23 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_04/08/2009=3A_a_pretty_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita=2C_from_the_front_and_with_full_consent?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 21:02:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79d753248001413256596 Beatrice (Bea) is a wonderful Italian girl working in my new = department. Besides being obviously pretty, she has such an exuberant = personality that her good cheer spreads to everyone around. A lucky = guy will marry her in a few weeks, so this week we have been making = photos of her on our terrace at the office--we agreed that she needed = to have some portraits while still a se=F1orita. We had two sessions, = one yesterday and one today, and in both cases I ended up deleting the = first pictures when she was really trying to pose; the ones I like are = the ones where she is relaxed and just reacting to something I have = said: http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#611910623_DQEkz-O-LB Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 21:17:20 2009 Received: (qmail 6048 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 19:17:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 19:17:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6754DE18256 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBD5E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F7134AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747F434AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:17:14 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n75JHA7B015225 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:17:12 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> <9e908c1f0908051024h5c6a163ep4884310cc644b57b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:17:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 21:17:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79dac0223269730998309 Joel, I have studied the lighting in question, after reading your comment, and I realized that I had misinterpreted what I was seeing. The lighting that brings out the veins and ribs in the leaves on the right is actually side lighting, not back lighting. The ribs stand out because of the shadows, and, at first glance, appear to be back-lit, but that is not the case. I hope this clears up some of the confusion caused by my original remarks. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Wilcox" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Jim Nichols > wrote: >> I liked this combination of back lighting and front lighting to bring out >> folage detail. Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro lens, processed >> in PSE 6.0. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Blackberry+Vine.jpg.html >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. > > Very striking. The light is very confusing but interesting. > > Joel W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 21:26:34 2009 Received: (qmail 400 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 19:26:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 19:26:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DC7E180CD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E337E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F110E19F3BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:26:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A60519F317 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:26:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web05-z02 ([10.127.132.156]) by cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090805192626414.KXHO8326@cdptpa-smta01.mail.rr.com>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:26:26 +0000 Message-ID: <20090805192626.YE3FB.114057.root@cdptpa-web05-z02> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:26:26 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Ken Norton Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 21:26:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79dcea52181357919056 ---- Ken Norton wrote: > I don't understand the negative tone of this thread. This really isn't about > technology, but about the perception of manipulation.< No, it's not about perception. Nor is it about manipulation. The thread started with a flat statement: "Digital doesn't cut the mustard for landscapes." That may not be an exactly exact quote, but close enough. My point was that digital, does, in fact, cut the mustard. How cleanly the mustard is cut depends entirely upon the talent and experience of the photographer. I said no more than that and meant no more than that. Any negativity is infered, not implied. JPC's work was cited because the day before I read the mustard comment, I had been in his gallery looking at his work. --Bob -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 21:35:30 2009 Received: (qmail 14911 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 19:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 19:35:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0938E1806B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24FEE240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8473F19F3E8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F8B19F3E5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090805193524H030024igpe>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:35:24 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <00DC86B484D94339AA95D8A65133753D@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:35:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 21:35:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79df0256421879814018 > IMHO the main advantages of the OM-1 (or the -2, I'd say) > in astrophotography (yes, I'm in it, too) are: > > *LIGHTWEIGHT -- makes tracking MUCH easier! > *Great selection of specialized focusing screens. The Nik*n F and F2 have > an > even larger range, but they're much > heavier. Same for the F3, whose mechanical shutter is rather cumbersome to > use. Exactly! The "professional" Nikon camera are so darn heavy (and expensive!) The later lightweight Nikon cameras (for the "amateur photography" market) do not have interchangeable focusing screens or provision for mirror lift. This is what attracted me to the Olympus OM1, etc. Lighweight and professional features. I love small & precise things. So, I made the switch... and here I am :) BTW, this is a terrific group. I belong to the other camera-specific groups and this is by far the BEST! George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 21:42:29 2009 Received: (qmail 22952 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 19:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 19:42:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB43E18178 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDDBE240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817B134AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11C034AC005 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:42:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so334099fxm.37 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:42:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.179.19 with SMTP id b19mr938749hbg.2.1249501340873; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:42:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00DC86B484D94339AA95D8A65133753D@home> References: <00DC86B484D94339AA95D8A65133753D@home> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:42:20 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2ebb38c502442494 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Question OM1 remote release X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 21:42:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79e0a5293681744846740 > > BTW, this is a terrific group. I belong to the other camera-specific groups > and this is by far the BEST! > Just keep believing that, George. :) Best? I don't know, but one thing for sure, it is extremely unique. AG (you are unique, just like everyone else) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 21:43:20 2009 Received: (qmail 12610 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 19:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 19:43:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98409E181B1 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71180E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7E19F49C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DF919F490 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.69]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5593 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2009 19:43:15 -0000 Message-ID: <583708.4894.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Lz4JO08VM1mBSgakn7idXVLPlDa7qjbGShKTNRgEnCHOdTd4xNdMwOPWI9rA50fJVzpu.tTRVlxazpFWxKgdbeDsQxapWIi73zCk7A_0ycnP.2KDqKk.I2_HGWYMAAybHBp_2ITtKZrBGaLdbj32DrRMs9sD68GlXYSPOYmusVnhc3knd.JllHQNi6cQ6w_itzM1GxBMPods9a1wclIA9.suaWPeKQ4CgKuNy5ag2MKyPRhDrq4XAIXxcxjQ2TtRVAerq_6sPdLya9.A3RFFNsGwyRt49UssvPKGSbxlauCC.9intOXo9tWFI5DVw9DfIf2hqvxSmQ-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:43:15 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <3CFBE591-4FAB-4398-9499-F9B7541E7B48@frozenlight.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_04/08/2009=3A_a_pretty_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita=2C_from_the_front_and_with_full_consent?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 21:43:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79e0d8215204877110844 Your a hound dog! 8-)) Nice photo. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 23:19:35 2009 Received: (qmail 19689 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 21:19:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 21:19:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACD7E18256 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2C8E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6038F34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A8534AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:56949 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MYntL-0008O8-0X (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:19:24 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:19:22 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: Sitges/Barcelona X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 23:19:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79f76729481136683642 I spent last weekend picking up my wife and daughter in Barcelona, from a Med cruise. On the way I stopped in the beach town of Sitges. It was a quick trip, the 34 picturs I show here are the result of a couple of hours in Sitges and then an evening on the Rambla. Those of you who do know the two towns will hopefully see something interesting; those who are familiar with them will hopefully enjoy seeing them through my lens: http://www.frozenlight.eu/barca082009/ As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Wed Aug 5 23:24:34 2009 Received: (qmail 30944 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 21:24:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 21:24:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837C5E1806F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E1FE240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F0819F9DF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB0E19F9E8 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:24:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 14:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MYnyF-0004uQ-Cj for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:24:27 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:23:56 +0200 Message-ID: <6ptj75h9b6qloc2ukcogtn8d74u3iiv6bi@4ax.com> References: <3CFBE591-4FAB-4398-9499-F9B7541E7B48@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <3CFBE591-4FAB-4398-9499-F9B7541E7B48@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_04/08/2009=3A_a_pretty_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita=2C_from_the_front_and_with_full_consent?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Wed Aug 5 23:24:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a79f89261101234514069 Something? And you really cannot remember what? Great picture, and she is really looking happy - living up to her name. Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:02:23 +0200, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >Beatrice (Bea) is a wonderful Italian girl working in my new = >department. Besides being obviously pretty, she has such an exuberant = >personality that her good cheer spreads to everyone around. A lucky = >guy will marry her in a few weeks, so this week we have been making = >photos of her on our terrace at the office--we agreed that she needed = >to have some portraits while still a se=F1orita. We had two sessions, = >one yesterday and one today, and in both cases I ended up deleting the = >first pictures when she was really trying to pose; the ones I like are = >the ones where she is relaxed and just reacting to something I have = >said: > >http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#611910623_DQEkz-O-LB > >Nathan > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 00:02:17 2009 Received: (qmail 11641 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 22:02:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 22:02:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BD7E1817A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CE5E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C5019FB4C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EBC19FAA5 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so426963bwz.38 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.6 with SMTP id l6mr1033416hbb.47.1249509727227; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:02:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:07 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2f83b5a235e7ba9e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Sitges/Barcelona X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 00:02:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a0169162896789618724 "Cobblestones" reminds me of a constant problem I face. When trying to photograph a road or trail that is on a steep slope, how do you represent that steepness in the photograph. Of course, it is easy when shooting sideways to the hill, but when photographing the hill straight on, you lose the perspective. "Cobblestone" is just like that--it doesn't really reveal the steepness except by the disappearing walls. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 00:03:10 2009 Received: (qmail 20057 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 22:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 22:03:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD841E18069 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA81E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A2634AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320C734AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so574736yxe.22 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:02:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.252.15 with SMTP id z15mr12532542anh.190.1249509739570; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:02:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:19 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908051502n68bd7fd7p2fee001c34a6a45e@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Sitges/Barcelona X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 00:03:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a019e65616789618724 On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I spent last weekend picking up my wife and daughter in Barcelona, > from a Med cruise. On the way I stopped in the beach town of Sitges. > It was a quick trip, the 34 picturs I show here are the result of a > couple of hours in Sitges and then an evening on the Rambla. Those of > you who do know the two towns will hopefully see something > interesting; those who are familiar with them will hopefully enjoy > seeing them through my lens: > > http://www.frozenlight.eu/barca082009/ Wonderful, colorful stuff, Nathan. Thanks for sharing. "Cruise ships in Barcelona harbour" could also be labeled "Beautiful Clouds with some items underneath." Love those clouds. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 01:04:48 2009 Received: (qmail 10259 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 23:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 23:04:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913DDE182AF for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B06E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0C234AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:04:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C676534AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:04:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3587 invoked by uid 504); 5 Aug 2009 23:04:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090805-0, 08/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 01:04:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a1010311461879814018 I see KEH has marked the price down from 179 to 159. I'm quite surprised. I wouldn't have expected to find it even at 179. Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Not really.... > > Suffering from a severe case of Zuikolitis, I have been checking every > Olympus OM ebay auction. So, I know that the same seller sold the same lot > for only $208.45 (I was watching it). Here is the auction: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280378398797 > > Now, they are posting the same exactly auction wiith an added $299 "buy it > now" as an option. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280381389101 > > I asked what happened to the first auction and did not go through. Their > reply is that the first auction did go through, but they have more than one > of these lenses for sale. "They all look the same", they assured me. > > Any seller who recycles their pictures is not to be trusted IMO. But since > they do not show any details, like clear pictures, serial numbers, etc., > then the pictures are "generic" so they can be recycled. An extra reason > not to do business with these people. (Note: I often don't follow my own > advice.) > > Also, you can buy the 300mm lens for around $150 at KEH. So $299 today for > these two lenses is not a bargain. The "free market" priced this lot at > $208.45 a day ago. > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 01:36:51 2009 Received: (qmail 25478 invoked by uid 0); 5 Aug 2009 23:36:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 5 Aug 2009 23:36:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636A4E1806F for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74432E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561D734AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:36:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304E034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:36:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20090805233645H01002f0qde>; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:36:45 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:36:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 01:36:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a179334099752976205 >I see KEH has marked the price down from 179 to 159. I'm quite > surprised. I wouldn't have expected to find it even at 179. I assume you are talking about the 300mm f4.5 lens? I bought one from KEH last week for only $133. The lens was rated BGN. It really looks excellent +++. I cannot see any wear or any kind of problem. An ebay seller could have called this lens "mint". Either KEH's ratings are too conservative, or this lens was mismarked :) Actually, it is not the first time that this happens. I always buy BGN rated items and I usually get what I would call "near mint". I wonder what the higher rating items look like... (but I won't pay the premium to find out :)) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 02:02:41 2009 Received: (qmail 5317 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 00:02:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 00:02:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A252E1822B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A306E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EEE34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5346634AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (deebel@googlemail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so541689ewy.28 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.66.13 with SMTP id o13mr11118079eba.52.1249516955311; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user4fec106f50 (cpc3-bahd1-0-0-cust443.renf.cable.ntl.com [81.99.1.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm1886988eyz.21.2009.08.05.17.02.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "David Bell" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 01:02:32 +0100 Message-ID: <263FE389A4E5450B88403B5A8C909C22@user4fec106f50> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcoWISHI/RZZiJEvTbOWb1KYlLrl4gAB5p0g In-Reply-To: <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Radionuclide Scan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 02:02:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a1da1320891342116753 I am going for a Radionuclide Imaging Bone Scan tomorrow. Evidently I could theoretically trigger an airport scanner for a period afterwards. Should I steer clear of film for a few days? Dave _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 02:30:10 2009 Received: (qmail 2292 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 00:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 00:30:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA939E182B3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4E3E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F322D1A0032 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D49919FFEE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2009 20:30:00 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:30:00 -0400 Message-Id: <4A79EBBD0200004E0002730A@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:32:43 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Radionuclide Scan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 02:30:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a241221391073733319 No. But the up the side is you might not need a night light for a while. :) Good luck with your scan. Clay Nichols >>> "David Bell" 08/05/09 8:03 PM >>> I am going for a Radionuclide Imaging Bone Scan tomorrow. Evidently I could theoretically trigger an airport scanner for a period afterwards. Should I steer clear of film for a few days? Dave _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 03:24:59 2009 Received: (qmail 7653 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 01:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 01:24:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83798E1822E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C599E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1446D1A00DB for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:24:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6693E1A00D3 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n761Op1l026103 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:24:52 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <8129A354213144D1B8BE218B11C2B46D@MAIN> From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:24:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 03:24:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a30eb103281744846740 Oh, just enjoy your 24/2 but don't try to look for the corner details, otherwise you will found the corners are same or even poorer than 35/2 :-) C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" > > > But look at the corners... and that's well stopped down! > > > OTOH, I'm really happy with my "new to me" 24/2 ;^) > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 03:41:23 2009 Received: (qmail 6044 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 01:41:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 01:41:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC0DE182C7 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29E3E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3721A0106 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8421A010E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 21 days 06:05:33 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-29-151.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.29.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n761f5Ts027297 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:41:06 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7A34AB.5010200@adinet.com.uy> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:40:59 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> In-Reply-To: <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 03:41:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a34c3141901220213263 Oh! - that's because you didn't see mine ... I paid it 300, and would do it again. Which serial # is yours? Fernando. DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> I see KEH has marked the price down from 179 to 159. I'm quite >> surprised. I wouldn't have expected to find it even at 179. >> > > I assume you are talking about the 300mm f4.5 lens? I bought one from KEH > last week for only $133. The lens was rated BGN. It really looks excellent > +++. I cannot see any wear or any kind of problem. An ebay seller could > have called this lens "mint". Either KEH's ratings are too conservative, or > this lens was mismarked :) Actually, it is not the first time that this > happens. I always buy BGN rated items and I usually get what I would call > "near mint". I wonder what the higher rating items look like... (but I > won't pay the premium to find out :)) > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 03:51:22 2009 Received: (qmail 6606 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 01:51:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 01:51:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D667BE180CA for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030D2E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D294B1A0138 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:51:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF58719FA58 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:51:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 18:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2850 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 01:51:13 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 01:51:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7A370F.7040906@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:51:11 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <3CFBE591-4FAB-4398-9499-F9B7541E7B48@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <3CFBE591-4FAB-4398-9499-F9B7541E7B48@frozenlight.eu> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090805-0, 08/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_04/08/2009=3A_a_pretty_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita=2C_from_the_front_and_with_full_consent?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 03:51:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a371a156461234514069 Very pretty se=F1orita. Not a bad place for an office terrace either. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Beatrice (Bea) is a wonderful Italian girl working in my new = > department. Besides being obviously pretty, she has such an exuberant = > personality that her good cheer spreads to everyone around. A lucky = > guy will marry her in a few weeks, so this week we have been making = > photos of her on our terrace at the office--we agreed that she needed = > to have some portraits while still a se=F1orita. We had two sessions, = > one yesterday and one today, and in both cases I ended up deleting the = > first pictures when she was really trying to pose; the ones I like are = > the ones where she is relaxed and just reacting to something I have = > said: > = > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/4253606_netUM#611910623_DQEkz-O-LB > = > Nathan > = > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > = > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=3Dwajsman&x=3D0&y=3D0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > = > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 04:07:17 2009 Received: (qmail 15867 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 02:07:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 02:07:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8641E181B1 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AA0E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584AF34AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:07:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB0634AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13389 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 02:07:10 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 02:07:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7A3ACD.5000803@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:07:09 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090805-0, 08/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Sitges/Barcelona X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 04:07:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a3ad5190481006886880 Most intriguing Best catch Best light This one wins twice. The first win was for best light. The second win is for most awful toppling over buildings. :-) Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I spent last weekend picking up my wife and daughter in Barcelona, > from a Med cruise. On the way I stopped in the beach town of Sitges. > It was a quick trip, the 34 picturs I show here are the result of a > couple of hours in Sitges and then an evening on the Rambla. Those of > you who do know the two towns will hopefully see something > interesting; those who are familiar with them will hopefully enjoy > seeing them through my lens: > > http://www.frozenlight.eu/barca082009/ > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 04:10:15 2009 Received: (qmail 241 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 02:10:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 02:10:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B78E18067 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DC5E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB27D34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7463134AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15040 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 02:10:08 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090805-0, 08/05/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 04:10:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a3b87121225368819438 Yes, I generally buy BGN from KEH if they have one. My experience is that their BGN grade generally looks like my moderately used gear. Clearly used but not abused. Above BGN grade I think we're talking fine distinctions that collectors would appreciate but not we shooters. Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> I see KEH has marked the price down from 179 to 159. I'm quite >> surprised. I wouldn't have expected to find it even at 179. > > I assume you are talking about the 300mm f4.5 lens? I bought one from KEH > last week for only $133. The lens was rated BGN. It really looks excellent > +++. I cannot see any wear or any kind of problem. An ebay seller could > have called this lens "mint". Either KEH's ratings are too conservative, or > this lens was mismarked :) Actually, it is not the first time that this > happens. I always buy BGN rated items and I usually get what I would call > "near mint". I wonder what the higher rating items look like... (but I > won't pay the premium to find out :)) > > George > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 04:25:14 2009 Received: (qmail 24574 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 02:25:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 02:25:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B073EE18060 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787B2E240BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6105F34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:25:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D591434AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:25:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.88]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n762P1Hj026455 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:25:03 +1000 Message-Id: <200908060225.n762P1Hj026455@mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail07.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:25:01 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:25:01 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_04/08/2009=3A_a_pretty_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita=2C_from_the_front_and_with_full_consent?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1102699693==" Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 04:25:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a3f0a302421357919056 --===============1102699693== Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > Very pretty señorita. Not a bad place for an office terrace either. > Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for comparison ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com --===============1102699693== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ --===============1102699693==-- From nilsf Thu Aug 6 04:34:17 2009 Received: (qmail 4222 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 02:34:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 02:34:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5500E182AD for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ED516E0002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECFE34AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D92734AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (pool-71-254-174-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.254.174.56]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id GTG45301 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:10 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Sitges/Barcelona X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 04:34:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a4129296051258626592 Cafe Zurich reflections is my fav (the light in the barcelona flags for sale is just fabulous) On Aug 5, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > I spent last weekend picking up my wife and daughter in Barcelona, > from a Med cruise. On the way I stopped in the beach town of Sitges. > It was a quick trip, the 34 picturs I show here are the result of a > couple of hours in Sitges and then an evening on the Rambla. Those of > you who do know the two towns will hopefully see something > interesting; those who are familiar with them will hopefully enjoy > seeing them through my lens: > > http://www.frozenlight.eu/barca082009/ > > As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 04:35:05 2009 Received: (qmail 4100 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 02:35:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 02:35:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287BFE181B2 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688B916E0002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590F61A01C0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2437C1A01BE for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (siddiq@ucr.edu whitelisted) Received: from sentoku.ucr.edu (sentoku.ucr.edu [138.23.214.80]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (pool-71-254-174-56.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.254.174.56]) by sentoku.ucr.edu (MOS 3.10.5-GA) with ESMTP id GTG45799 (AUTH siddiq) for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <023527A6-C1BD-4E7D-B8CD-5176E54D7633@ucr.edu> From: "siddiq@ucr.edu" To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <200908060225.n762P1Hj026455@mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:34:57 -0700 References: <200908060225.n762P1Hj026455@mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host= Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?Nathan=27s_PAD_04/08/2009=3A_a_pretty_se=F1or?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ita=2C_from_the_front_and_with_full_consent?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 04:35:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a4159145581234514069 On Aug 5, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Wayne Harridge wrote: > >> Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> >> Very pretty se=F1orita. Not a bad place for an office terrace either. >> > > Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for = > comparison ! > > ...Wayne ...hah, I work in the basement (which is also a fallout shelter....) -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 07:17:52 2009 Received: (qmail 23487 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 05:17:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 05:17:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0416DE18062 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA28E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6039E1CD489 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA93B1CD487 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D8A461F6C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:42:16 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <3EFA9203-3C1A-438E-8D99-148B3EAAF92D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:17:41 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Week 31 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 07:17:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a6780201101220213263 It was indeed, Verbose startup mode, Carlos; thanks for replying. It was because I had changed the internal drive without changing Startup Drive, so the little computer had to search for the Startup Drive before taking the next best thing. As soon as I nominated the new internal drive as Startup Drive all was fine (and very fast). The MacBook Pro is definitely slim enough for me, especially considering all the ports you get compared with the Air. And the iPhone is my "netbook" ... Chris On 5 Aug 2009, at 19:07, Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > I think you're in 'verbose mode' -- I can't recall the command to > switch > back to the "Apple-like" mode, but surely you can search in Apple > support > web. > > >> By the way, the 13" MBPro is small enough for you to save your money > >> on the Air, I should have said. > > > I really don't see the point of the Air... what I'd like from Apple > is a > thing like the EEE-PC... -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 07:19:26 2009 Received: (qmail 22392 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 05:19:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 05:19:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D30CE18060 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11944E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C233D1CD488 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:19:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA741CD487 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:19:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04713461F6C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:43:52 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <6227CAF0-361C-4A2F-9552-9EC48F397B2E@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:19:18 +0100 References: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 07:19:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a67de151641234514069 Yes, that's bright and cheerful all right, Jim Chris On 5 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Jim Nichols wrote: > I liked this combination of back lighting and front lighting to > bring out folage detail. Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro > lens, processed in PSE 6.0. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Blackberry+Vine.jpg.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 07:21:16 2009 Received: (qmail 32312 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 05:21:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 05:21:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1E5E1822C for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71475E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC723618004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:21:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3D334AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:21:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:21:09 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n765L66G002534 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:21:08 GMT Message-ID: <293406328E024DD79F99FEA33530D7FB@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <32517835861E434F97BDC3A943D2C92D@jimnichols> <6227CAF0-361C-4A2F-9552-9EC48F397B2E@threeshoes.net> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:21:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 07:21:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a684c297865368819438 Thanks, Chris. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Blackberry Vine > Yes, that's bright and cheerful all right, Jim > > Chris > > On 5 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Jim Nichols wrote: > >> I liked this combination of back lighting and front lighting to >> bring out folage detail. Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro >> lens, processed in PSE 6.0. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Blackberry+Vine.jpg.html > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 07:22:54 2009 Received: (qmail 4520 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 05:22:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 05:22:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C74E18060 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB438E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B9E34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7163734AC002 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:22:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (sandyinchina@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com (mail-qy0-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so660881qyk.22 for ; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:22:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.96.16 with SMTP id f16mr2799450qcn.85.1249536166873; Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:22:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A711E69.2040602@gmail.com> References: <8CBDE778E0BEEC9-177C-5E@webmail-mh41.sysops.aol.com> <4A70BD93.80905@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907291459j28193f5dvcba2e4c7a7f99347@mail.gmail.com> <4A711E69.2040602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:22:46 +0800 Message-ID: From: Sandy Harris To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus E-P1 review on DPR X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 07:22:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a68ae147992439112457 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Moose wrote: > Joel Wilcox wrote: >>...=A0But having owned now three Oly DSLRs with this feature, the >> objection is totally theoretical in nature ... =A0I have never missed >> a shot I wanted because of this feature. =A0Never. =A0Non-issue. >> > > Different strokes ... My original DSLR, a Canon 300D, has a power off to > on time of about 3 sec. I found that quite frustrating at times and did > indeed miss some shots to it. > ... > With the 5D, power off to shot time is less than 0.2 sec. Grab, push the > button and get the shot. I'll take a shot with a dust bunny over no shot. > > I wouldn't mind if the Oly delay were for a real purpose, but it seems > to me to be simple thoughtlessness and/or stubbornness. I just don't get = it. > > Contrast Panny's development of their higher end compacts. ... How does the Panasonic micro-4/3 offering compare on this? -- = Sandy Harris, Fuzhou, Fujian, China -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 07:37:31 2009 Received: (qmail 16748 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 05:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 05:37:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BA0E18062 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397DAE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BDC34AC00A for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:37:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D541934AC004 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:37:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA094615A9 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:01:59 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <575EA975-F203-4FD9-AC5C-43E61E342641@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <263FE389A4E5450B88403B5A8C909C22@user4fec106f50> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:37:24 +0100 References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <263FE389A4E5450B88403B5A8C909C22@user4fec106f50> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Radionuclide Scan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 07:37:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a6c1b150131258626592 Whatever lights up, I hope that it's good. Chris On 6 Aug 2009, at 01:02, David Bell wrote: > I am going for a Radionuclide Imaging Bone Scan tomorrow. > > Evidently I could theoretically trigger an airport scanner for a > period > afterwards. Should I steer clear of film for a few days? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 08:38:34 2009 Received: (qmail 6570 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 06:38:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 06:38:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F40E18177 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F10CE240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723461CD488 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:38:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347581CD487 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:38:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5423477.10171249541448606.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.210.211.5 ([196.210.211.5]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 521 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:50:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <6179073655DE4272B0B47FDC937F2BDD@home> X-Priority: 3 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:38:22 +0200 References: <46AE04F43F554601828234B4A01884E3@home><92B8CF68EA9D4105A4014A5F9957D268@home><67A75861C34B4500A6379E23599B8E17@home> <5824608.10071249487692349.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <6179073655DE4272B0B47FDC937F2BDD@home> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 08:38:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a7a6a178171342116753 Oh, so *that's why* my Stereo Realist 2.8 has these two lens thingies on the front of it! (just kidding) Still, I must disagree that only the lens sets the point of view, it must be the lens + capture medium, right? Otherwise, ow is it that I can move the lens (by swinging the camera left-right) but, if I do so around the nodal axis of the lens, my point of view stays the same? I believe there must be some fundamental difference between shifting just the lens, or shifting the camera + lens, I just don't know what that difference really is. If you draw a diagram of both scenarios, looking at the field of view of the lenses, it's two different pairs of images that is captured, no? On 05 Aug 2009, at 6:01 PM, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > As a matter > of fact, a stereo camera has two lenses and one camera body. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 08:59:35 2009 Received: (qmail 22375 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 06:59:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 06:59:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE14E18068 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06E1E240E0 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EF034AC003 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4897C34AC001 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:59:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bj@caverock.net.nz whitelisted) Received: from viper.snap.net.nz (viper.snap.net.nz [202.37.101.25]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [123.255.58.57] (57.58.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz [123.255.58.57]) by viper.snap.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243C93DB269 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:59:16 +1200 (NZST) From: "Brian Swale" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:59:18 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090805-1, 05/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 08:59:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a7f57285461357919056 Ken wrote > I was really wanting to leave all digital behind and in retrospect, I > could have. But I brought it along for good reason--for that one type of > shooting opportunity that digital is best at, but it never materialized > THIS time, but it has in the past. Well, without putting too sharp a point on it ( you thought I'd never ask ?? ), what IS that one type of shooting that Digital is best at? A curious mind wants to know. Brian Swale. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 09:22:07 2009 Received: (qmail 9599 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 07:22:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 07:22:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99F4E181AC for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A0EE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4D019DACD for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:22:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05FC19DACB for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:22:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20365 invoked by uid 502); 6 Aug 2009 07:22:00 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-163-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.163.138) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 07:22:00 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7A848F.1010902@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:21:51 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <263FE389A4E5450B88403B5A8C909C22@user4fec106f50> In-Reply-To: <263FE389A4E5450B88403B5A8C909C22@user4fec106f50> Subject: Re: [OM] Radionuclide Scan X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 09:22:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a849f300389730998309 David Bell wrote: > > I am going for a Radionuclide Imaging Bone Scan tomorrow. > Whoa, that sounds scary. I hope they find what they want that's good and/or don't find what they are testing for that's bad! Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 09:40:56 2009 Received: (qmail 9289 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 07:40:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 07:40:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DAEE18060 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC84EE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A220E34AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D345E34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:40:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6235 invoked by uid 502); 6 Aug 2009 07:40:50 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-163-138.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.163.138) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 07:40:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7A88FC.9070404@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:40:44 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBDE778E0BEEC9-177C-5E@webmail-mh41.sysops.aol.com> <4A70BD93.80905@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0907291459j28193f5dvcba2e4c7a7f99347@mail.gmail.com> <4A711E69.2040602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus E-P1 review on DPR X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 09:40:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a8908303247801554290 Sandy Harris wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Moose wrote: > >> ... >> With the 5D, power off to shot time is less than 0.2 sec. Grab, push the >> button and get the shot. I'll take a shot with a dust bunny over no shot. >> >> I wouldn't mind if the Oly delay were for a real purpose, but it seems >> to me to be simple thoughtlessness and/or stubbornness. I just don't get it. >> >> Contrast Panny's development of their higher end compacts. ... >> > > How does the Panasonic micro-4/3 offering compare on this? > Detailed AF comparison. Off to shot is 2.0 sec for the Oly and 0.8 sec for the G1 Mose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 09:51:19 2009 Received: (qmail 13403 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 07:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 07:51:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A427AE182B9 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134E1E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB1D19DCB7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:51:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E5219DCB1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:51:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 00:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:4347 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MYxkl-0003CX-GZ for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:51:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7A8B6A.1090904@picturepedia.org> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:51:06 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A77FA14.3050908@picturepedia.org> <4A781531.6060806@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A781531.6060806@chucknorcutt.com> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] V700 scanning was - Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 09:51:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7a8b7729031946193717 Thanks Chuck and Dawid, I managed to get the epson scan software working again by reinstalling the original software from CD which was sufficient for the urgent scans, then last night I managed to find some time and did the same scan with vuescan and then updated the epson software to the latest and tried rescanning (this time it worked again - strange things these computers). I found the best scan (confirmed by my wife) to be the epson version, the vuescan colours were off BUT I think with some tweaking I could fix the colours and maybe the multpass scans feature would give more quality. Anyway thanks for your replies and putting me on the right track IanW On 04/08/2009 13:02, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I have a V700 on WinXP. I have used VueScan to scan multiple negatives > in the film strip holder. Unfortunately, I've only done it once so far > and can't give you detailed instructions. I'm also not at home where I > can try things out but think I can point you the way to get started. > > First, download the VueScan user's manual in PDF form so you can readily > search the entire document. > > Next, search under the "input tab" for "batch scan". Setting batch scan > is important for getting more than one image on each pass. Next, > search under the "crop tab" for "Multi Crop". Multi crop is used for > flat bed scanners using a film holder that arranges the film frames in a > grid. I believe that this is where I went wrong on my one use of > VueScan on the V700. I think if I had done this properly the grid > arrangement for the V700 would have been retrieved... which also means > that VueScan needs to know whether it's working on slides or negatives > since the film holder layout is different for each. > > > >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 12:34:10 2009 Received: (qmail 21926 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 10:34:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 10:34:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AFEE1817E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9DEE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EF934AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:34:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6B334AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:34:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 03:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so676614bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:34:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr1000548hbd.52.1249554843131; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:34:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] interesting description 110421578529 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 12:34:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ab1a234171342116753 Just saw this one: Re-usable pen FT top cover, 110421578529 ykw. In the description: Expect light scratches and/or rub marks, but something that is still in the excellent-plus to near-mint category. Do NOT expect Dings, Dents, or Dunks. and then look at the images and have a good laugh :) Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 14:06:32 2009 Received: (qmail 2114 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 12:06:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 12:06:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D57E1807A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A37E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9302B34AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:06:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AC334AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:06:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNY00E7CEYNJRC0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:06:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7AC740.8030203@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:06:24 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A798208.3050806@verizon.net> <041CDC370EFE461AA55AAAF1E890E43B@home> In-reply-to: <041CDC370EFE461AA55AAAF1E890E43B@home> Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 14:06:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ac748276071946193717 sure, or get them serviced so they do fire at the same time.... ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Two OM-1 may not fire the shutter at the same time and that would be >> determined by the mirror height when the shutter fires. Same goes for >> 2/2N and both can vary based on condition of springs in mirror mechanisms. > > That's why one might need to try several bodies and several winders 2, to > find the best combination. > > Great!! Now I have an excuse to buy even more Olympus OM stuff!!! :) > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 14:42:50 2009 Received: (qmail 11799 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 12:42:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 12:42:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7765EE182AD for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6807FE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C64834AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:42:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE2334AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:42:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNY003TWGMLIR2G@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:42:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7ACFAE.6080906@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:42:22 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE409D417DAC2-159C-A56@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> In-reply-to: <8CBE409D417DAC2-159C-A56@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Shims for focusing screens in OM? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 14:42:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7acfca149795683411216 In an OM body I can check mirror angle, finder focus, infinity focus. Messing with the factory shimming of the screen is to be avoided. Prism has to come out to change them, they are glued in, it can be an all day job. I haven't done one in decades. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html usher99@aol.com wrote: > Very clear that many Canyon offerings may front or back focus through > the VF using MF . I believe that the OM 5DII has a small shim for the > screen and replacemnts both thicker and thinner are available. The > range of "in spec" for servicing is disturbingly wide, unless > a nice technician is encountered. Have not seen this issue mentioned > much with OM. Perhaps a MF system is manufactured to > tighter tolerances? It would be more of a pain to check of course. > Wonder if John can check this somehow. I know from > many very narrow dof shots in macro at 1:1 or greater that at least 2 > bodies I have are spot on or very close. > > A not really looking for trouble, > Mike > > > Oh, then this issue also needs to be considered of course for digital > film for zuikos. Posted this before: > > http://www.jayandwanda.com/photography/dslr_man_focus/man_focus.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 14:52:52 2009 Received: (qmail 13255 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 12:52:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 12:52:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC254E182B5 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8C8E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E12A34AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E499C34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.75]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KNY0030UH3SY0T6@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7AD219.7000105@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:52:41 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Very sad day : Long live Maitani San X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 14:52:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ad224287611342116753 ....don't try.....do..... ;-) (as yoda might say) ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > Hi all, > I feel really sad for Maitani's death... I'll try to enjoy the OM system > even more! > > > Cheers, -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 15:33:35 2009 Received: (qmail 32411 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 13:33:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 13:33:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20835EDC024 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE449E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30D834AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:33:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A49734AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so793913fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:33:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.69 with SMTP id 5mr1142311hbu.4.1249565605195; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:33:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:33:25 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c4f98501c5694d92 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 15:33:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7adbaf309261220213263 > > Well, without putting too sharp a point on it ( you thought I'd never ask > ?? ), > what IS that one type of shooting that Digital is best at? > Critter photography, ad-hoc weddings, and other low rate-of-return photography. I have to correct myself on something. About 200 digital images were taken with the E-1. Nearly all were JPEGs of campsites, test shots, trial balloons and other nonsensical stuff. Oh, and my daughter took a bunch too while we travelled down the road. So the E-1 did actually earn its keep, but it never had the honor of joining the film gear in the main bag. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 15:37:52 2009 Received: (qmail 23818 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 13:37:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 13:37:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF045E1822E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D985E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D9034AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DB934AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:37:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so796830fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:37:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.178.195 with SMTP id a3mr1092604hbg.39.1249565865384; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:37:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:37:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb64b3785388259b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 15:37:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7adcb029681744846740 > > Yes, I generally buy BGN from KEH if they have one. My experience is > that their BGN grade generally looks like my moderately used gear. > Clearly used but not abused. Above BGN grade I think we're talking fine > distinctions that collectors would appreciate but not we shooters. > Probably the one area where I would disagree with this is in flash gear. I'm not so keen to buy "BGN" grade. In looking at my camera kit, with the exception of one item (you are free to guess which one it is), my entire kit could be rated BGN--- AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 15:44:17 2009 Received: (qmail 13471 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 13:44:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 13:44:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9337E1822B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B198E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0571034AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:44:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E4C34AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:44:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so230259fgg.13 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:44:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr4970fgy.71.1249566250703; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:44:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:44:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d81e651b64a0e734 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 15:44:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ade31152484877110844 Love the idea of ad-hoc weddings - these mainly happen in 'Vegas? :-) Jez On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > > Well, without putting too sharp a point on it ( you thought I'd never ask > > ?? ), > > what IS that one type of shooting that Digital is best at? > > > > Critter photography, ad-hoc weddings, and other low rate-of-return > photography. > > I have to correct myself on something. About 200 digital images were taken > with the E-1. Nearly all were JPEGs of campsites, test shots, trial > balloons and other nonsensical stuff. Oh, and my daughter took a bunch too > while we travelled down the road. So the E-1 did actually earn its keep, > but it never had the honor of joining the film gear in the main bag. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 15:56:14 2009 Received: (qmail 13954 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 13:56:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 13:56:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5330EDC011 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98A1E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB63434AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B04C34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so789471bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:56:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.196 with SMTP id 4mr1057925hbk.17.1249566966696; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:56:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:56:06 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9cdafd7c136beecf Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 15:56:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae0fe324441234514069 > > Love the idea of ad-hoc weddings - these mainly happen in 'Vegas? :-) > Are we now going to have Michael Jackson imitators in Vegas performing weddings? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 15:59:14 2009 Received: (qmail 16591 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 13:59:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 13:59:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1506BEDC017 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6D0E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A4934AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B68734AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so791424bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:59:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.164.129 with SMTP id t1mr908025hbd.172.1249567145190; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:59:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:59:05 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 15:59:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae1b295075683411216 > > In looking at my camera kit, with the exception of one item (you are free to > guess which one it is), my entire kit could be rated BGN--- > > AG Well, that item is remarkably resistant to wear, except the back plate. I've heavily used this item, before the advent of digital it was my most used one, and still for film... and it still looks mighty fine. The previous owner was a working pro and didn't nanny the camera either. It has one of the most durable (and beautiful) finishes I've ever seen! Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:00:53 2009 Received: (qmail 29726 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:00:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:00:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B88EDC009 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0887E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940D119E23D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D7119E694 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 06:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 376 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:12:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:59:36 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:00:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae21515161076813867 Ken, you are henceforth officially known as "Dr. Film". Can we put together a list of all the Drs already on this list? Dr. Flash Dr. Focus Dr. Bokeh Dr. ... :-) On 05 Aug 2009, at 6:16 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > Provia 100F is typically more "usable" than Velvia 50/100 because it > is more > scannable and skintones stay more neutral. Velvia 100F is a lost > cause and > simply doesn't seem to have a home--It's like Provia 100F with some > attitude--attitude which can be easily done in post. But Velvia > 100F, like > Provia 100F, does give smoother skies. > > I absolutely agree about the wider gamut of colors. Sunset/Sunrise > skies > are extremely troublesome for digital cameras. The way the high > values > block up and transition is very ugly and HDR is usually the only way > to make > the images anywhere near acceptable. Meanwhile, film has a self- > attenuation > mechanism with extreme bright sources. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:11:37 2009 Received: (qmail 28508 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:11:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:11:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57148EDC03E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23240E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1038F19E705 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:11:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F212B19E708 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:11:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so820270fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:11:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.205 with SMTP id 13mr940031hbs.168.1249567886742; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:11:26 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 40b091a43ce7c0da Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Campsite Caper X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:11:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae49989545368819438 Copied from my notebook: 7-22-09 Cased the campground looking for a better site. Sites 62-71 have awesome views fo the dunes and the mountains to the north as compared to the woods-bound 47 of which we are currently occupying. We waited till 69 vacated and moved our stuff to it. Got the site for 3 additional nights. Site 69 N 37 44.886 W 105 30.259 It is sunny and hot - much more than yesterday and we all got burned pretty bad. As we watched for the vehicle to leave the site (our site 47 was at the entrance/exit to that loop so we could see everybody coming and going), we got a couple of things ready to secure it. Just as we saw the vehicle I jumped into the Jeep and it wouldn't start. (Cooler had drained the battery overnight). So I grabbed two folding chairs and ran the length of the campground. Just as I approached the site, somebody else spotted it and started backing up. But there was one more vehicle behind them and they had to back up too. I ran past them (more like staggered by this point--it was up hill and high altitude), and planted my chairs into the driveway of the site. Kinda like planting my flag! (Insert substantial pause for enough oxygen to sufficiently reenter muscle tissue) The move of the site was a bit of a a pain, but it was fun carrying the two tents (one at a time) down the road from our old site to the new one. The stares and snickers were a little embarrasing, but later when those people saw which site we had, we were vindicated. This new site has an unobstructed view of the mountains and dunes and is on the outer corner so it is pretty quiet and private. The best part is that I can photograph without leaving the site. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:12:43 2009 Received: (qmail 11309 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:12:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:12:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28892EDC03C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CA0E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A967719E711 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67B319E710 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ3hs-000796-Qy for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:12:36 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:12:28 +0200 Message-ID: <70pl75tuj7n36t6g0fb56b7l9t1l743ovc@4ax.com> References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:12:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae4db113461950411718 Her: http://govegas.about.com/cs/faqs/l/blfunfacts.htm I read that the number of weddings in Vegas is enormous: Average number of Vegas weddings per day 315 and also, in relation: Cost of Nevada marriage license, in dollars 35 Average cost of filing for divorce in Nevada, in dollars 450 I wonder how many wedding photographers have a job in Las Vegas. Anyone who knows? Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:44:10 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >Love the idea of ad-hoc weddings - these mainly happen in 'Vegas? :-) >Jez > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:21:10 2009 Received: (qmail 30616 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:21:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:21:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DC6E18065 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919A2E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8697C34AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1171534AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so237077fgg.13 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:21:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.31.17 with SMTP id e17mr53186fge.47.1249568462022; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:21:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <70pl75tuj7n36t6g0fb56b7l9t1l743ovc@4ax.com> References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> <70pl75tuj7n36t6g0fb56b7l9t1l743ovc@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:21:01 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 729b1c867197c58f Message-ID: <9f07ac840908060721w4bb4cf7dvb1c82283c763ec3f@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:21:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae6d635301879814018 Have you seen the t-shirt that says: "What happens in Vegas gets Photoshopped out" jez On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Frank van Lindert wrote: > > Cost of Nevada marriage license, in dollars 35 > Average cost of filing for divorce in Nevada, in dollars 450 > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:22:41 2009 Received: (qmail 2649 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:22:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:22:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF25E1806A for ; 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Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:22:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c37.58e2f70b (65099) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:22:48 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Campsite Caper X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:22:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae73129051342116753 Ken, I know you are a little scary looking, but not that scary. Did you have your clothes on? <{B^) Bill Barber In a message dated 8/6/2009 9:11:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Just as we saw the vehicle I jumped into the Jeep and it wouldn't start. (Cooler had drained the battery overnight). So I grabbed two folding chairs and ran the length of the campground. Just as I approached the site, somebody else spotted it and started backing up. But there was one more vehicle behind them and they had to back up too. I ran past them (more like staggered by this point--it was up hill and high altitude), and planted my chairs into the driveway of the site. Kinda like planting my flag! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:26:05 2009 Received: (qmail 15100 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:26:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:26:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2523E180B5 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF8FE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FAB34AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E13F34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ3un-0008Mw-Ng for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:25:57 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:25:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> <70pl75tuj7n36t6g0fb56b7l9t1l743ovc@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908060721w4bb4cf7dvb1c82283c763ec3f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908060721w4bb4cf7dvb1c82283c763ec3f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:26:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae7fd284324877110844 No, I haven't, Jez. I know the phrase (from a Photoshop Meeting, if I remember well). Frank. On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:21:01 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: >Have you seen the t-shirt that says: > >"What happens in Vegas gets Photoshopped out" >jez > > >On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Frank van Lindert wrote: > >> >> Cost of Nevada marriage license, in dollars 35 >> Average cost of filing for divorce in Nevada, in dollars 450 >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:27:24 2009 Received: (qmail 7288 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:27:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:27:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D68E18256 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8A0E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8083734AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0517434AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1076280fga.13 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:27:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr48384fgb.58.1249568829849; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:27:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:27:09 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d514e68859d6ac32 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908060727h2027451bree83e66931f52c4b@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Campsite Caper X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:27:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae84c223061357919056 So I bet your extensive kit had a couple of Energizer 386's but they probably wouldn't have helped here - what does the Captain's log say about how you recovered from this situation? Jez On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > > Just as we saw the vehicle I jumped into the Jeep and it wouldn't start. > (Cooler had drained the battery overnight). -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:28:47 2009 Received: (qmail 23647 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:28:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D7FE181AC for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036D3E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E2919E7B2 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E439C19E710 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so1076549fga.13 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:28:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.25.19 with SMTP id 19mr43323fgy.71.1249568911593; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:28:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A7B2806.5635.25FB780@bj.caverock.net.nz> <9f07ac840908060644w2691445dh77c8a1968152f597@mail.gmail.com> <70pl75tuj7n36t6g0fb56b7l9t1l743ovc@4ax.com> <9f07ac840908060721w4bb4cf7dvb1c82283c763ec3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:28:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aa2519dc0b789822 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908060728q9f166fudc269bee94465d19@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:28:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ae89f35561136683642 Yup - the t-shirt appeared after an Adobe conference in LV. The original well-known phrase or saying is "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" Jez On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Frank van Lindert wrote: > No, I haven't, Jez. I know the phrase (from a Photoshop Meeting, if I > remember well). > > Frank. > > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:21:01 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: > > >Have you seen the t-shirt that says: > > > >"What happens in Vegas gets Photoshopped out" > >jez > > > > > >On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Frank van Lindert >wrote: > > > >> > >> Cost of Nevada marriage license, in dollars 35 > >> Average cost of filing for divorce in Nevada, in dollars 450 > >> > >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:35:46 2009 Received: (qmail 4873 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:35:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85918E1822D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27784E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4FA34AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:35:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7686834AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:35:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so816463bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:35:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.205 with SMTP id 13mr942764hbs.168.1249569331986; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:35:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:35:31 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 91f87d68fec67073 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:35:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7aea4278232439112457 > > Ken, you are henceforth officially known as "Dr. Film". > Can we put together a list of all the Drs already on this list? > > Dr. Flash > Dr. Focus > Dr. Bokeh > Dr. ... > As we actually have REAL doctors on list, I'm less inclined to cheapen the title, but I am rather partial to "Potentate". :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:37:17 2009 Received: (qmail 19414 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:37:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:37:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B78E18174 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3976FE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65DC19E817 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:37:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A714019E815 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:37:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090806143707H0600kdfjqe>; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:37:08 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN><25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:36:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] The Drs in this list... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:37:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7aea9d21912439112457 > Ken, you are henceforth officially known as "Dr. Film". > Can we put together a list of all the Drs already on this list? > > Dr. Flash > Dr. Focus > Dr. Bokeh > Dr. ... Well, you can add me, as Dr. Stereo :) I am also known as DrT (because of my hard to pronounce last name) or DrT-3d (@att.net, email) or drt3d(.com, web site) or 3d-drt-3d (ebay, long story) George Themelis -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:45:37 2009 Received: (qmail 11545 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:45:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:45:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368CAE182C7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A23EE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687BD19E83C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3960719E831 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090806144526H05002ijkse>; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:45:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz><3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN><25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:44:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:45:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7aec91241459752976205 > As we actually have REAL doctors on list [...] I wonder what a REAL doctor is...? Most likely a medical doctor. I have a PhD degree, so I am a "doctor of philosophy" (even though my degree is in Science/Engineering). Do I qualify as a Dr.? :) Interesting story: A bank teller once refused to accept a check written to me as "Dr. George Themelis" because, he said, I am not a doctor, and this is written to a Doctor and considered a business check, etc. After unsuccesfully arguing with him that the "Dr." is a meanignless title, just like "Mr.", finally the branch manager was called and he accepted the check. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 16:58:03 2009 Received: (qmail 22089 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 14:58:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 14:58:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D268E180B5 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D22E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4165E19E8B7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B0819E8B4 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so852305fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:57:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.65 with SMTP id 1mr1013106hbu.150.1249570676390; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:57:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:57:56 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bccd54dbd9176b51 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 16:58:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7aef7b210392439112457 > > I wonder what a REAL doctor is...? Most likely a medical doctor. I have a > PhD degree, so I am a "doctor of philosophy" (even though my degree is in > Science/Engineering). Do I qualify as a Dr.? :) > Either is fine with me. I have a lot of respect for those who have gone through the process to attain the right to claim the title. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 17:06:40 2009 Received: (qmail 3417 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 15:06:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 15:06:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2C7E182CB for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED848E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D4534AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D62734AC00A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so837788bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:06:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.159.195 with SMTP id z3mr714139hbc.171.1249571193770; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:06:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908060727h2027451bree83e66931f52c4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9f07ac840908060727h2027451bree83e66931f52c4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:33 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 86a7f14b4f827e9c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Campsite Caper X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 17:06:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7af18037896107113666 > > So I bet your extensive kit had a couple of Energizer 386's but they > probably wouldn't have helped here - what does the Captain's log say about > how you recovered from this situation? > The deep-cycle marine battery and a set of jumper cables. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 17:07:18 2009 Received: (qmail 4970 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 15:07:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 15:07:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC1CE18178 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED3BE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8314F34AC00A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96B834AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so838212bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.150.208 with SMTP id o16mr1125018hbb.49.1249571230600; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:07:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:07:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e8e39f5f0d005f9c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Campsite Caper X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 17:07:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7af1a677481136683642 > > Ken, I know you are a little scary looking, but not that scary. Did you > have your clothes on? <{B^) Bill Barber > LOL, I was sprawled out on the driveway. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 17:31:08 2009 Received: (qmail 19582 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 15:31:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 15:31:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EB5E1822E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8995E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD35334AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:30:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E814134AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so875706fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.16 with SMTP id b16mr2472hbc.50.1249572656560; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:30:56 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1b13236ed3f80760 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 17:31:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7af73c302985368819438 > > Well, that item is remarkably resistant to wear, except the back plate. > I've heavily used this item, before the advent of digital it was my > most used one, and still for film... and it still looks mighty fine. The > previous > owner was a working pro and didn't nanny the camera either. It has one > of the most durable (and beautiful) finishes I've ever seen! > For some odd reason, the film door wasn't fitting right and not latching, so I swapped it with the one from the OM-2S. Now the OM-2S looks a lot newer, but the 3Ti looks BGN if you see it from the back. The finish of the 3Ti doesn't just look different, but it feels different too. I'm not sure about the durability, but it definitely is better than the black-on-brass of most OMs. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 18:02:51 2009 Received: (qmail 2091 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 16:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 16:02:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA111E182C7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCFEE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1350A34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483E834AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <28531068.10361249575305573.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 921 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:15:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:02:33 +0200 References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 18:02:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7afeab326311946193717 Nooo... shhh... don't say things like that! I love my OM-1... I love my OM-1.... I don't need a 3Ti... I don't need a 3Ti... On 06 Aug 2009, at 5:30 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Well, that item is remarkably resistant to wear, except the back >> plate. >> I've heavily used this item, before the advent of digital it was my >> most used one, and still for film... and it still looks mighty >> fine. The >> previous >> owner was a working pro and didn't nanny the camera either. It has >> one >> of the most durable (and beautiful) finishes I've ever seen! >> > > > For some odd reason, the film door wasn't fitting right and not > latching, so > I swapped it with the one from the OM-2S. Now the OM-2S looks a lot > newer, > but the 3Ti looks BGN if you see it from the back. > > The finish of the 3Ti doesn't just look different, but it feels > different > too. I'm not sure about the durability, but it definitely is better > than > the black-on-brass of most OMs. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 18:13:56 2009 Received: (qmail 14637 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 16:13:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 16:13:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C09EDC036 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F453E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F59A19EB89 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CD119EB3A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:13:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so904408fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:13:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.135.210 with SMTP id e18mr4500hbe.135.1249575229193; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:13:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <28531068.10361249575305573.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> <28531068.10361249575305573.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:13:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: da65182d06b04125 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 18:13:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0144246244877110844 > > Nooo... shhh... don't say things like that! > I love my OM-1... I love my OM-1.... I don't need a 3Ti... I don't > need a 3Ti... > Multi-spot... Multi-spot... Multi-spot... 1/2000... 1/2000... 1/2000.... OTF Flash Control with high-speed sync... OTF Flash Control with high-speed sync... OTF Flash Control with high-speed sync... Titanium finish... Titanium finish... Titanium finish... Bright viewfinder... Bright viewfinder... Bright viewfinder... Viewfinder diopter... Viewfinder diopter... Viewfinder diopter... AG (just trying to help) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 18:33:45 2009 Received: (qmail 25539 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 16:33:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 16:33:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184B5EF4009 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D99E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD29034AC008 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764A734AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl39.gs02.gridserver.com (cl39.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.48]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:56492 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl39.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ5uH-0005zu-QZ for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:33:35 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:33:54 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoWs6/t7m9OP4KmEd6NNgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 18:33:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b05e977621950411718 Dawid, You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T for 1/3 the price. The only other thing the OM-3Ti offers is a mechanical shutter that doesn't require batteries (the batteries operate the meter but you can take pictures with dead batteries). The OM-4Ti does not use batteries fast, I replace mine about every 6 months. Its worth the trouble to keep good batteries in the camera when you can buy 3 bodies for the price of one. If someone gave me an OM-3Ti, I'd love it and use it, but I'll never buy one. If I ever buy another OM body, it'll be another 4Ti to add to the ones I have. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 12:13 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: >> >> Nooo... shhh... don't say things like that! >> I love my OM-1... I love my OM-1.... I don't need a 3Ti... I don't >> need a 3Ti... >> > > > Multi-spot... Multi-spot... Multi-spot... > > 1/2000... 1/2000... 1/2000.... > > OTF Flash Control with high-speed sync... OTF Flash Control with high-speed > sync... OTF Flash Control with high-speed sync... > > Titanium finish... Titanium finish... Titanium finish... > > Bright viewfinder... Bright viewfinder... Bright viewfinder... > > Viewfinder diopter... Viewfinder diopter... Viewfinder diopter... > > AG (just trying to help) Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 18:37:00 2009 Received: (qmail 14581 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 16:36:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 16:36:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D53EF4039 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBC7E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657E919EC84 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B2A19EC90 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:36:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:58594 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MZ5xS-0004DV-2t (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:36:51 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:50 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <3433083.8951249337542317.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <7987D85138C74128A1FC8CDDF1EB4FE5@MAIN> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 18:37:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b06ac273052013633067 I have a PhD too (economics) but I have always thought it stands for Piled Higher and Deeper :-) Certainly nobody is allowed to call me Dr. Wajsman. Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> I wonder what a REAL doctor is...? Most likely a medical doctor. I >> have a >> PhD degree, so I am a "doctor of philosophy" (even though my degree >> is in >> Science/Engineering). Do I qualify as a Dr.? :) >> > > > Either is fine with me. I have a lot of respect for those who have > gone > through the process to attain the right to claim the title. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 18:53:57 2009 Received: (qmail 22409 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 16:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 16:53:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A6CEDC03D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29CAE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64C034AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:53:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.806 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.806 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.806] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DE534AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:53:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so908183bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.142 with SMTP id e14mr13290hbc.69.1249577629557; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:53:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d5c072012fc9f4e2 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 18:53:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0aa5285801136683642 Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. Even if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the miles of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. Poor thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of water too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means waterproof, but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. Had it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years to come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to Colorado--that Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as usable or comfortable to carry as you. You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially heavier. You did your part, you performed well. Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you in the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, I don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that zipper, just won't hold together. Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the best bag I've ever had. AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 18:57:05 2009 Received: (qmail 27254 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 16:57:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 16:57:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C744AEDC00B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E305E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E73619EDB0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344D819EDA2 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so930683fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:56:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.174.76 with SMTP id i12mr12751hbf.62.1249577813281; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:56:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:56:53 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cab7dcf01e7b25f5 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 18:57:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0b61201635683411216 > > Certainly nobody is allowed to call me Dr. Wajsman. > "We meet again, Dr. Wajsman..." -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:01:00 2009 Received: (qmail 19958 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:00:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:00:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED2CE1822D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B595E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279FA34AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:00:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854A134AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so912299bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr13701hbd.52.1249578053403; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:00:53 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9263a6d0aa21564a Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:01:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0c4c149121413256596 > > You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T for 1/3 the price. > Except for: 1. OTF flash control in manual-exposure mode, 2. Ability to take hours-long time-exposures in sub-zero temperatures, 3. Emotional impact of knowing you have the best OM made. Frankly, there is no minimizing the third point. When you have a certain level of equipment, you've got to step up from being just a poser. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:06:59 2009 Received: (qmail 18107 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:06:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:06:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02397E18067 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F2E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE65D19EDDF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D7B19EDEF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26278652.10381249579155623.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 888 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:19:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:06:44 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:06:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0db3308659752976205 Exactly, I mean, when you have a 90/2.0, you need an 'appropriate' body to stick it to. *snap* Hey, what am I saying?? On 06 Aug 2009, at 7:00 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > When you have a certain > level of equipment, you've got to step up from being just a poser. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:08:13 2009 Received: (qmail 5043 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:08:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:08:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD83DE1817E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94DCE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71AB19EDF5 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EB719EDDF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (castanet.xiosnetworks@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1196716gxk.14 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:08:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.49.8 with SMTP id w8mr64685agw.89.1249578486232; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:08:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:08:06 +0800 Message-ID: <7e764efe0908061008o6759951ckb6a3b641a02d7c8@mail.gmail.com> From: khen lim To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:08:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0dfd125795683411216 You're insane. K. 2009/8/7 Ken Norton > Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. Ev= en > if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you > ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the mil= es > of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. > > Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was > it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the > floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. > > Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and > possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. > > The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. Poor > thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of > water > too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the > others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked > past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means waterproo= f, > but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. > > Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. H= ad > it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years > to > come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to Colorado--th= at > Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as > usable or comfortable to carry as you. > > You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic > equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially > heavier. You did your part, you performed well. > > Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you = in > the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, I > don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that > zipper, just won't hold together. > > Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the > best bag I've ever had. > > AG Schnozz > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = Khen Lim - Zone-10 LLC, Des Moines, Iowa, USA "To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards of people=94 - Emily Cox "All our dreams can come true, if we have the courage to pursue them" - Walt Disney -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:11:30 2009 Received: (qmail 12496 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:11:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C53AEDC02A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA2CE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A87C19EE44 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:11:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E7919EE3F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:11:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl03.gs02.gridserver.com (cl03.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:56519 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl03.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ6Up-0007HC-Cw for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:11:20 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:11:40 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoWuPaRNP+85oKsEd6ORwAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:11:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0ec297355034211378 I don't know, I've never 'bought' the argument about needing certain equipment to 'look' professional. People who buy my pictures don't care what I shot them with. The difference between a poser and a (artist, professional, good photographer, etc) is the images, not the gear. The first and second points are good ones if you need those features in your work. I don't cause I never, ever, ever use flash. I never do exposures that long either. I do make exposures of a few minutes sometimes, but for that kind of work, I am not shooting any 35mm camera. If you gotta put the camera on a tripod and use such long exposures, might as well use the Hasselblad and get medium format image quality. My Hasselblad is the 503cx, one of the models that is all mechanical and uses the leaf shutter in the lens. Actually my Hassy does have TTL flash if you buy one of the flashes that is compatible with it, but I don't have one and never will (not because I cant afford it, the flashes are fairly cheap used, but cause I never use flash). Of course, if you're looking to impress people with the 'best' gear, nothing beats a Hasselblad, except MAYBE a Leica. I'd rather shoot my OMs than a Leica though. I think the 3Ti is cool and like I said, I'd use one if it was free, but if I have to buy gear the 4Ti is a better investment for a person who has to live off his photo earnings. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 1:00 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: >> >> You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T for 1/3 the price. >> > > Except for: > 1. OTF flash control in manual-exposure mode, > 2. Ability to take hours-long time-exposures in sub-zero temperatures, > 3. Emotional impact of knowing you have the best OM made. > > Frankly, there is no minimizing the third point. When you have a certain > level of equipment, you've got to step up from being just a poser. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:12:54 2009 Received: (qmail 31031 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:12:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:12:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0135DEDC01F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22972E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126DE19EE15 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DF719EDF8 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4963 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2009 17:12:46 -0000 Message-ID: <856983.4227.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V_gduSkVM1lSlb.xbrltNm5dL5ymTa0NnlmUM8Fhal_zEaIFMCbmxRC2dtzKL29twVaTkQXK9uaMZj.LjwhHqssUmZozgStumbqfZbq9aWtdSWgpwrIH1Q_2N0gnA38zLfFiuEhCo8_INmgZkjjb45vWZjiW5tr6twRjX9tADTEzhcECphmgEDA6uQGfreL.YDUkFUVruOGo6OmPgTQFAjUuOOcXdOTaZVWZZ2yQrErcEGB1nfC6AIcahHZBRgvHSrHJC960oVMwcA0IPg42JQ2uEn6kclqfryu5S0gVQXcFzvtqvX8kzaTnvVhll_IDLLactv90us9TQw-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:12:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:12:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b0f16194099752976205 No limited lifetime warranty on that bag? Poor bag! > Subject: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 12:53 PM > Rest in Peace, buddy.=A0 We've > been through a lot together, you and me.=A0 Even > if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always > respected you > ability to hold your own.=A0 But, alas, the time comes > when age and the miles > of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep > it together. > = > Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled > forth, that was > it.=A0 I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they > fell only inches to the > floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete > driveway. > = > Our journeys together are now done.=A0 You will be > fondly remembered, and > possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. > = > The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on > Isle Royale.=A0 Poor > thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry > a bottle of water > too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures > together. While the > others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently > and easily hiked > past them.=A0 The canoe incident proved that you were by > no means waterproof, > but even that soaking you came through with your colors > intact. > = > Your zipper has failed.=A0 The one design weakness has > caught up to you.=A0 Had > it been designed even slightly differently, you may have > worked for years to > come.=A0 I knew there was some reason why I didn't take > you to Colorado--that > Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he > was never as > usable or comfortable to carry as you. > = > You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of > photographic > equipment.=A0 Others, like you cost much, much more and > are substantially > heavier.=A0 You did your part, you performed well. > = > Last night, I was saddened, but not angry.=A0 I couldn't > bear to place you in > the trash bin yet.=A0 Maybe you can keep stuff on the > shelf safe and work, I > don't know.=A0 But you shall never be used again to > carry equipment--that > zipper, just won't hold together. > = > Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy.=A0 > You really were the > best bag I've ever had. > = > AG Schnozz > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:18:23 2009 Received: (qmail 21611 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:18:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D715EDC00C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152BAE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F112519EEEE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B5319EDDF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so943465fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:18:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.142 with SMTP id e14mr16355hbc.69.1249579096552; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:18:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:18:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a5316933348a0544 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:18:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b105f110216107113666 > > I think the 3Ti is cool and like I said, I'd use one if it was > free, but if I have to buy gear the 4Ti is a better investment for a person > who has to live off his photo earnings. > Agreed. But to put it in perspective, the cost of an OM-3Ti is still less than a decent digital camera and won't depreciate like one. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:32:31 2009 Received: (qmail 12367 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:32:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104E5EDC040 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DDCE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C740C19EF66 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F5219EF8D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:57084 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ6pE-0000wW-RB for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:32:26 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:32:46 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoWu+kpJ3ySWIKvEd6/8AAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:32:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b13af204661950411718 True, But my decent digital camera is a Nikon D200 bought used for $600. I won't pay (can't pay even if I wanted to!) the prices that really good digital cameras, like the D700, cost. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 1:18 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: >> >> I think the 3Ti is cool and like I said, I'd use one if it was >> free, but if I have to buy gear the 4Ti is a better investment for a person >> who has to live off his photo earnings. >> > > Agreed. > > But to put it in perspective, the cost of an OM-3Ti is still less than a > decent digital camera and won't depreciate like one. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 19:38:19 2009 Received: (qmail 16230 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 17:38:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 17:38:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A713EDC020 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AB9E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD1334AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E8634AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so954912fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.142 with SMTP id e14mr18968hbc.69.1249580292455; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:38:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:38:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95c064192ce93a93 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 19:38:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b150b65473900897491 > > But my decent digital camera is a Nikon D200 bought used for $600. I won't > pay (can't pay even if I wanted to!) the prices that really good digital > cameras, like the D700, cost. > No worries. Once the D700x/D800 come out, the D700 will be available for peanuts. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 20:07:01 2009 Received: (qmail 15235 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 18:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 18:07:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02F8EDC046 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E6EE240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8BE19F522 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB3619F4F9 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:57125 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ7Ma-0005jd-Ak for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:06:54 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:07:12 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoWwLiY91a16YKzEd6yUgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 20:07:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b1bc550881413256596 I hope! I really want one, the high ISO performance in unbeleiveable, and I have lots of Nikon fullframe lenses that would work beautifully on it. Just can't afford the $3000 price tag. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 1:38 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: >> >> But my decent digital camera is a Nikon D200 bought used for $600. I won't >> pay (can't pay even if I wanted to!) the prices that really good digital >> cameras, like the D700, cost. >> > > > No worries. Once the D700x/D800 come out, the D700 will be available for > peanuts. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 20:16:58 2009 Received: (qmail 31083 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 18:16:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 18:16:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3FDE182AE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA16E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51B534AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7711C34AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-vw0-f190.google.com (mail-vw0-f190.google.com [209.85.212.190]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws28 with SMTP id 28so957861vws.15 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.72.129 with SMTP id m1mr297804vcj.76.1249582612628; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 20:16:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b1e1a257251234514069 This set is a selection of about 1/3 of the shots from the third roll of Kodachrome 25: http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621961589982/ Recommend viewing with the slideshow link. Joel (Dr. Kodachrome) W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 20:19:15 2009 Received: (qmail 4945 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 18:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 18:19:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BD8E18066 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7094E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B7C34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:19:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E5934AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:19:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so957408bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.142 with SMTP id e14mr24146hbc.69.1249582748544; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:19:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ac99008d19d3ef8e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 20:19:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b1ea3263221950411718 > > I hope! I really want one, the high ISO performance in unbeleiveable, and I > have lots of Nikon fullframe lenses that would work beautifully on it. Just > can't afford the $3000 price tag. > Patience. If history is any indication, the D700 will get affordable very quickly. I have absolutely no reason to believe that history won't repeat itself. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that the Canon 20D was the cat's meow. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 20:21:22 2009 Received: (qmail 30955 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 18:21:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 18:21:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA013E181B1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1517E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C2919F723 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:21:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E7019F745 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:21:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so958663bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.167.212 with SMTP id h20mr21710hbe.68.1249582875528; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:21:15 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ecde94f845beb939 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 20:21:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b1f2299281006886880 512 is perfect on so many levels! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 20:46:46 2009 Received: (qmail 20351 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 18:46:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 18:46:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0D1E18062 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD77E240E0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0319F824 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF6819F80E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 705 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Aug 2009 18:46:38 -0000 Message-ID: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Y.68S0YVM1mQ4SN96gJ_iako_3obaH7sDGs55lLPmMnmuKqQCrA5Nc2eFKZ8hmMV4YieRtzcxuQ6lYCSVHSMsGvpGFUETL_4RGVEZ8G1Nq.6j_zrvl.ZdFQdQI2tuCd68BBEf_47uaAwojn44d0ffJKBU2.TGDVq0Etv2GntMARc.pNAKUrCeBgKnVG4GG0yylMyjVhGtlDnESW6RektIVZe3f4xzrFvigkgUcPq7CsNAiYomJ1HlJraDx2iqKyFGKw1TLGScuJX5pPCgMCDjlfWcuM8G0kwqodepMhDYRvUmQKzyfVmI_7Q0EKLgC.ufFz6rIo8AgJ_bVKSZnNPeSuTqSbgvoAJg1QdZL4zLKEsxTNy Received: from [63.227.177.48] by web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:46:37 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:46:37 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 20:46:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b2516104207801554290 Chris / Dawid, PLEASE don't forget the OM3.....Okay I would like the Titanium finish of the 3Ti but my OM3 still brings a smile to my face...even though I find my 4Ti 's get more use. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Chris Crawford wrote: > From: Chris Crawford > Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Date: Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 5:33 PM > Dawid, > > You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T > for 1/3 the price. > The only other thing the OM-3Ti offers is a mechanical > shutter that doesn't > require batteries -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 21:10:33 2009 Received: (qmail 11584 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 19:10:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 19:10:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179EAE181AE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61CBE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E3D34AC00A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:10:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA5F34AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:10:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:57370 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ8M5-0006NP-If for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:10:27 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:10:46 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoWyZnq2Jj2qoK8Ed6PXAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 21:10:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b2aa9225124877110844 The OM-3 is nice but seems to be VERY rare. And though its cheaper than the 3Ti, the 3 is still more than a good 4Ti. Since I never use autoexposure, a 3 or 3Ti would seem perfect for me but the cost is a solid wall to me that I can't climb. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 2:46 PM, "JOHN DUGGAN" wrote: > Chris / Dawid, > PLEASE don't forget the OM3.....Okay I would like the Titanium > finish of the 3Ti but my OM3 still brings a smile to my face...even though I > find my 4Ti 's get more use. > Regards > John Duggan, > Wales, UK > > > --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Chris Crawford wrote: > >> From: Chris Crawford >> Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Date: Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 5:33 PM >> Dawid, >> >> You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T >> for 1/3 the price. >> The only other thing the OM-3Ti offers is a mechanical >> shutter that doesn't >> require batteries > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 21:21:52 2009 Received: (qmail 5108 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 19:21:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 19:21:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52214E181B2 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6A2E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1DC19F99D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF66C19F97F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:21:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:58826 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MZ8X0-0001aA-Ja (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:21:43 +0000 Message-Id: <1A767FC5-AC2E-4CCE-AA8E-D40EE3E8F8A9@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:21:40 +0200 References: <4A775B09.18258.30DC750@bj.caverock.net.nz> <25999183.9521249451970898.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <2747718.10101249487979892.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <11809159.10331249567928039.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 21:21:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b2d5066341879814018 That'll cost you! :-) Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 6, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Certainly nobody is allowed to call me Dr. Wajsman. >> > > > "We meet again, Dr. Wajsman..." > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 21:34:53 2009 Received: (qmail 341 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 19:34:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 19:34:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24A0E182C8 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A1AE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87F34AC008 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B12234AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so1000953bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:34:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.174.76 with SMTP id i12mr31343hbf.62.1249587285544; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:34:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:34:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 779a703129a2ce0b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 21:34:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b305d147601006886880 > > The OM-3 is nice but seems to be VERY rare. And though its cheaper than the > 3Ti, the 3 is still more than a good 4Ti. Since I never use autoexposure, a > 3 or 3Ti would seem perfect for me but the cost is a solid wall to me that > I > can't climb. > As for many of us. We just registered the girls for school this week. Less expensive this year than last, but still enough to have bought something substantial. And this is a PUBLIC school. :O By the time you buy books, rent instruments and buy supplies, an OM-3 would seem like chump change. But at least it's less expensive than private school. In looking back at our spending on the trip, we blew the budget by about $500, but still spent a fraction of what most families of four spend visiting Orlando. Our typical non-hotel night was $14 and our food budget was actually less than our normal at-home rate--except for the disappointing dinner we bought in Salida. (Avoid the family Mexican restaurant on Hwy 50). The Mexican dinner we had in Alamosa was OUTSTANDING, though. Anyway, I digress. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 22:29:05 2009 Received: (qmail 5980 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 20:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 20:29:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDD8E182C9 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431C9E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F119FB2D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:28:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D426919FB24 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:28:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl03.gs02.gridserver.com (cl03.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.12]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:58474 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl03.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZ9a2-0006A3-BY for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:28:57 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:29:15 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoW1JCyz27BKILHEd6FpgAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 22:29:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b3d11201511946193717 Yeah I have to go tomorrow to register my son. We qualify for free books and such, the only help that a low income man can get in Indiana is free schoolbooks for his kid. We survived this summer on an average of $100 a week income, but we lost our apartment at the beginning of the summer. Student aid comes in 2 weeks, looking for a place to live now. Of course, I don't get a dime of child support. Only men pay that here. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 3:34 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: >> >> The OM-3 is nice but seems to be VERY rare. And though its cheaper than the >> 3Ti, the 3 is still more than a good 4Ti. Since I never use autoexposure, a >> 3 or 3Ti would seem perfect for me but the cost is a solid wall to me that >> I >> can't climb. >> > > > As for many of us. We just registered the girls for school this week. Less > expensive this year than last, but still enough to have bought something > substantial. And this is a PUBLIC school. :O By the time you buy books, > rent instruments and buy supplies, an OM-3 would seem like chump change. > But at least it's less expensive than private school. > > In looking back at our spending on the trip, we blew the budget by about > $500, but still spent a fraction of what most families of four spend > visiting Orlando. Our typical non-hotel night was $14 and our food budget > was actually less than our normal at-home rate--except for the disappointing > dinner we bought in Salida. (Avoid the family Mexican restaurant on Hwy > 50). The Mexican dinner we had in Alamosa was OUTSTANDING, though. > > Anyway, I digress. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 22:46:06 2009 Received: (qmail 6683 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 20:46:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 20:46:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82EDE182DF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73506E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5968519FB9B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:46:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C092219FB6E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:45:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4058 invoked by uid 502); 6 Aug 2009 20:45:57 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-192-135.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.192.135) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 20:45:57 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7B40F9.6000402@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:45:45 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 22:46:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b410e40792439112457 Ken Norton wrote: > Rest in Peace, buddy. OMG, how sad. > We've been through a lot together, you and me. Even if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the miles of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. > > Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. > Did the zipper actually come apart? Mine, which has had much less wear than yours, unceremoniously dumped 5D and lenses on a parking lot in Monterrey when still relatively new. Nothing was damaged but my peace of mind. Analysis and testing revealed that the zipper pulls should NEVER be pulled evenly up to the top. The weight of the gear pulling at the big flap will cause the zipper to simply unzip. One or the other siper pull should be pulled up, over and at least half way down the other side. No accidents since. My usage has probably been different than yours. The 200EG has been the bag that carries most gear on planes and in car trunks from place to place. When actually shooting away from house/car/ etc., I carry active gear in a smaller bag. > ... --that Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as usable or comfortable to carry as you. > One of the consequences of digital for me has been bigger bags. I used to be able to carry an OM body with lens attached and two other lenses up to moderate tele in a LowePro PhotoRunner buckled around my waist. The 300D pushed that to the limit and the 5D just didn't fit. For a while, I carried lenses and accessories in the waist pack and the camera around my neck. I wanted the option of putting everything in the bag, so I moved up to a LowePro Inverse 200AW. Once again, I could carry a light, but full field kit on my waist, although it was heavier and more intrusive than the PhotoRunner. Still, I occasionally wanted to be able to carry another lens, usually the 50/1.8 for low light speed. One day, I ran across a bunch of LowePro* Slingshot 200AW bags at Costco for $15-20 less than I'd seen them for elsewhere. I tried one on my body, played and tried to envision how actual use would go. I didn't buy that day, but did look at bags when next at the local photo emporium. They didn't have the SlingShot 200AW in stock, but lots of other bags. I came to the conclusion that the ideal solution to my desires didn't actually exist, perhaps wasn't even possible? Next time at Costco, there were still bags left, (un?)fortunately. By then, I'd formulated a strategy for using one, tried it out in the store and bought one. The greater of the two weaknesses of the design is that the lens pockets open horizontal to my body, which isn't really safe. The strap/clips that keep the flap from opening too far keep lenses from falling out, but one still has to release them to get at the things in the pockets. What I've done is to put the two most used alternate lenses in the top pockets. I access them by pulling loose the velcro that keeps the pockets closed, rather than by opening the flap all the way down. That way, nothing is put in danger when accessing and changing lenses. Carrying three lenses in addition to the one on the camera leaves enough room to keep the hoods on all of them, avoiding all that business of getting them out and stowing them separately with each lens change. The other weakness is the unbalanced shoulder load. So far, that hasn't been too bad and the ability to access tha bag without taking it off has been worth it. With a loaded 300AW, I imagine the load issue might be greater. But then, you are a more substantial person than I. Moose * No, I don't have a "thing" for LowePro. I guess they must just make bags that fit me and my needs, as all three have only been purchased after trying several different options in stores, usually with the actual equipment to be carried. they do seem to be very well made. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:15:37 2009 Received: (qmail 24564 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA745E18069 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7309FE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6369919FC70 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D786719FC6B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16100 invoked by uid 502); 6 Aug 2009 21:15:31 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-192-135.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.192.135) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 21:15:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:15:23 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:15:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b47f9239911946193717 Ken Norton wrote: > In looking back at our spending on the trip, we blew the budget by about $500, but still spent a fraction of what most families of four spend visiting Orlando. I'm getting excited now. We bought air tickets, reserved a car and reserved a place for the four nights in Brooklyn. Already blew provisional budget by booking a place larger and better located in Brooklyn. At least it has a kitchen, so we may save on a couple of breakfasts and maybe a dinner. The car rental business is weird. We thought about doing without a car in NY until heading north, but a rental for 3 weeks and 2-3 days is significantly MORE expensive than renting for 28 days or more, which gets the monthly rate. So it's cheaper to take a car in NY, even if we were to just park it for four days. I've read that air fares are going up this fall, but not so far. All in cost for two of us, on non-stops SFO to JFK and BOS to SFO is $578 on Virgin, including bag check charges. At $15 per bag, but with a 70# limit, we're going to be checking two very heavy bags each way, with a couple of smaller bags inside them, and full carry-ons. At least the big bags have wheels. :-) I don't understand how anybody can make any money that way, but I'm not complaining. Off to NY for four nights Sept 8th. Then on up through the Boston area, up through various places in Maine and back down to Boston for our return flight, Oct 8th. Two years ago, we could fly into Portland, ME, rent a car and drop it at JFK for a reasonable cost. This year, the JFK-Portland route is unreasonable. Travel is really in flux. We plan to visit with Mike and Marnie and hope for a Whitmire sighting. Anybody else along that corridor up for maybe a meal, beer, or some such meeting? Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:16:34 2009 Received: (qmail 20729 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:16:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:16:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1F7E182C7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88057E240E1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDCA34AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F3534AC008 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76LFa1p023388 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d0d.5b6b59db (37141) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dc03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc03.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.3]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA033-d3a24a7b47e926c; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:15:30 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MZ21 (webmail-mz21.sim.aol.com [64.12.81.102]) by smtprly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC032-d3a24a7b47e926c; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:15:21 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:15:21 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com (64.12.81.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:15:21 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE4F2242E678E-1034-FC0@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:16:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b4832129315683411216 Oh hogwash. A well earned designation for a long difficult academic journey. My Dad is a Ph.D. He was fond of conference calls at lunch to catch up with my brother (also an endocrinologist) and me. I remember the puzzled look in my officer manger's face the first time she came to get me for the call: " Dr.Gordon, it's Dr. Gordon and Dr. Gordon." Mike (not a list Dr. of any sort--which is a very high honor in itself) I have a PhD too (economics) but I have always thought it stands for Piled Higher and Deeper :-) Certainly nobody is allowed to call me Dr. Wajsman. Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> I wonder what a REAL doctor is...? Most likely a medical doctor. I >> have a >> PhD degree, so I am a "doctor of philosophy" (even though my degree >> is in >> Science/Engineering). Do I qualify as a Dr.? :) >> > > > Either is fine with me. I have a lot of respect for those who have > gone > through the process to attain the right to claim the title. > > AG > -- > ___________________ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:24:14 2009 Received: (qmail 11270 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:24:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:24:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38552E180CD for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6AAE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC1E19FC75 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260CA19FC73 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76LO5Ol016604 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c99.50817266 (37165) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.141]) by cia-ma04.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA044-5c4f4a7b49ed349; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:24:01 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MZ21 (webmail-mz21.sim.aol.com [64.12.81.102]) by smtprly-ma02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA025-5c4f4a7b49ed349; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:23:57 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:23:56 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com (64.12.81.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:23:56 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] The Drs in this list... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:24:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b49fe5835034211378 Dr. Focus is the somewhat reclusive colleague of Dr. Flash but has made more of an appearance of late. I remain quite jealous of Chuck's formidable in house consultants. I think you left out Dr. No Flash, who doubles as the list logician and all around good egg. Mike > Ken, you are henceforth officially known as "Dr. Film". > Can we put together a list of all the Drs already on this list? > > Dr. Flash > Dr. Focus > Dr. Bokeh > Dr. ... Well, you can add me, as Dr. Stereo :) I am also known as DrT (because of my hard to pronounce last name) or DrT-3d (@att.net, email) or drt3d(.com, web site) or 3d-drt-3d (ebay, long story) George Themelis -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:32:53 2009 Received: (qmail 14491 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:32:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:32:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495DCE18062 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85C0E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE4C34AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:32:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A39634AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1086334fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:32:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.153.193 with SMTP id a1mr38971hbc.105.1249594364033; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:32:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7B40F9.6000402@gmail.com> References: <4A7B40F9.6000402@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:32:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6a87c0eff0ed2bd6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:32:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b4c04184431612113968 > > OMG, how sad. > Horribly so, but not unexpected. I knew its days were numbered. It was wearing out--the materials aren't nearly as robust as the LowePros. I have a 20 year-old Magnum 35 and a 15 year-old Elite-??? which are brutes. I only got four or so years out of the 200EG. Did the zipper actually come apart? Yes! The zipper separated about halfway up the left side and then unwound itself all the way around. I could "heal" the zipper by just "unzipping" and "rezipping" but the damage was already done and it doesn't hold together anymore. The one observation I always had of the 200EG was that the zipper was too thin. All it takes is one bad zipping operation where you bend it around a corner (like a motordrive equipped OM body) for it to fail. > Analysis and testing revealed that the zipper pulls should NEVER > be pulled evenly up to the top. The weight of the gear pulling at the > big flap will cause the zipper to simply unzip. One or the other siper > pull should be pulled up, over and at least half way down the other > side. No accidents since. > Absolutely agree. I've written about that before on this list and I can't echo your recommendations loudly enough. NEVER LEAVE THE ZIPPERS AT THE TOP OF A BACKPACK--ANY BACKPACK!!! Depending on the batch that the 200EG was manufacturered, another critical thing is the shoulder-straps themselves. All bookbag style backpacks have the adjustment straps going through the nylon length-adjustment-buckle. The problem is that the slightest up pressure on the buckle will cause the strap to whip out and the bag fall to the floor. To prevent this, tie a knot in the end of the adjustment strap to keep it from totally slipping through the buckle. I destroyed a laptop computer and dented a 24/2.8 because of this. > My usage has probably been different than yours. The 200EG has been the > bag that carries most gear on planes and in car trunks from place to > place. When actually shooting away from house/car/ etc., I carry active > gear in a smaller bag. > LOL, the 200EG was my "smaller" bag. :) > One day, I ran across a bunch of LowePro* Slingshot 200AW bags at Costco > for $15-20 less than I'd seen them for elsewhere. I tried one on my > body, played and tried to envision how actual use would go. I didn't buy > that day, but did look at bags when next at the local photo emporium. > They didn't have the SlingShot 200AW in stock, but lots of other bags. > I think the SlingShot 200AW is a better bag than the 300AW. The 200AW is lighter, smaller and is more in-tune with the gestalt of the single-strap backpack. A loaded 300AW is just plain awkward to carry. It was given to me and I knew I was getting desparate to replace the 200EG (the signs if immenent failure were there) so I gladly took it. On a positive note, the equipment is very well protected in the 300AW--the foam padding on the sides is quite rigid. > The greater of the two weaknesses of the design is that the lens pockets > open horizontal to my body, which isn't really safe. The strap/clips > that keep the flap from opening too far keep lenses from falling out, > but one still has to release them to get at the things in the pockets. > Huge design fault of these strap/clips is that when you go to close the zipper, the straps get caught inside. Major irritation to me. > The other weakness is the unbalanced shoulder load. So far, that hasn't > been too bad and the ability to access tha bag without taking it off has > been worth it. With a loaded 300AW, I imagine the load issue might be > greater. But then, you are a more substantial person than I. > That part really hasn't bothered me all that much. If I can be honest for a second, the 200EG was just a little tight and dug into my armpits. It needed to be just an inch or two wider to accomodate us triangle-shaped bodies. ;) I didn't think I had a thing for LowePro products, it's just a coincidence that I have at least three of them... Given the price on the 200EG bags, I just might get another if for no other reason than to carry my laptop computer. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:38:36 2009 Received: (qmail 6810 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:38:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:38:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC62EDC01D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91BFE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9537034AC00A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458B734AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76LcP9T030588 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:38:25 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d3e.43e9aab0 (34907) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dd01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dd01.mx.aol.com [205.188.84.129]) by cia-da02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA024-d3e54a7b4d45e1; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:38:19 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MZ21 (webmail-mz21.sim.aol.com [64.12.81.102]) by smtprly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDD011-d3e54a7b4d45e1; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:38:13 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:38:13 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com (64.12.81.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:38:13 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE4F5559B2452-1034-10B2@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Shims for focusing screens in OM? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:38:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b4d5c43749730998309 Thanks for the info, John. I'll not be messing with that any time soon. Perhaps I need to spend less of the little time I have focusing on focus targets. Mike In an OM body I can check mirror angle, finder focus, infinity focus. Messing with the factory shimming of the screen is to be avoided. Prism has to come out to change them, they are glued in, it can be an all day job. I haven't done one in decades. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html usher99@xxxxxxx wrote: > Very clear that many Canyon offerings may front or back focus through > the VF using MF . I believe that the OM 5DII has a small shim for the > screen and replacemnts both thicker and thinner are available. The > range of "in spec" for servicing is disturbingly wide, unless > a nice technician is encountered. Have not seen this issue mentioned > much with OM. Perhaps a MF system is manufactured to > tighter tolerances? It would be more of a pain to check of course. > Wonder if John can check this somehow. I know from > many very narrow dof shots in macro at 1:1 or greater that at least 2 > bodies I have are spot on or very close. > > A not really looking for trouble, > Mike > > > Oh, then this issue also needs to be considered of course for digital > film for zuikos. Posted this before: > > http://www.jayandwanda.com/photography/dslr_man_focus/man_focus.html -- _________________________________________________________________ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:43:09 2009 Received: (qmail 3081 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:43:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:43:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE904E18063 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10304E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF3834AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54934AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:43:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11115 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 21:43:01 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:43:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b4e6d91481234514069 My Canyon 540EZ is a $60 BGN grade from KEH. It looks and works great! Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> Yes, I generally buy BGN from KEH if they have one. My experience is >> that their BGN grade generally looks like my moderately used gear. >> Clearly used but not abused. Above BGN grade I think we're talking fine >> distinctions that collectors would appreciate but not we shooters. >> > > Probably the one area where I would disagree with this is in flash gear. > I'm not so keen to buy "BGN" grade. > > In looking at my camera kit, with the exception of one item (you are free to > guess which one it is), my entire kit could be rated BGN--- > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:50:47 2009 Received: (qmail 10945 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:50:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:50:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B29EDC03B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A1FE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2082B19FCD3 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11CE19EC24 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16563 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 21:50:39 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:50:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b503787701357919056 Uh, oh! How long does mine have yet to live? Which zipper failed and where? Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. Even > if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you > ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the miles > of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. > > Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was > it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the > floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. > > Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and > possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. > > The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. Poor > thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of water > too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the > others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked > past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means waterproof, > but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. > > Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. Had > it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years to > come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to Colorado--that > Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as > usable or comfortable to carry as you. > > You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic > equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially > heavier. You did your part, you performed well. > > Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you in > the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, I > don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that > zipper, just won't hold together. > > Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the > best bag I've ever had. > > AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:55:35 2009 Received: (qmail 8183 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:55:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:55:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F01EDC02C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4318E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD2B34AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5524734AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20082 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 21:55:28 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:55:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b5157301065368819438 You're obviously quite taken by Tiger lillies. Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > This set is a selection of about 1/3 of the shots from the third roll > of Kodachrome 25: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621961589982/ > > Recommend viewing with the slideshow link. > > Joel (Dr. Kodachrome) W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:56:39 2009 Received: (qmail 25548 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:56:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:56:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7806AEF402F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898E0E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FF419FD02 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB4319FCFC for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76LtoaF020950 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d4d.4c8b8a24 (65099) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:56:12 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:56:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b5197259001076813867 This may be the OM Mailing list International health plan or perhaps stimulus package. Might work might not, hey, but that is how these stimulus all inclusive plans work. Here goes. Five or Six years ago I bough a case for my laptop. With moderate use, one of the zipper pulls broke and finally the handle broke. I emailed Kensington and asked if it could be repaired and they had me email them back with the model and serial number and then they sent me a replacement for FREE! No receipt required. New computer case. Can't say that it will work with your case and it might. Ask them. Somewhere along the way I learned an important lesson in life, "If you don't ask, you don't get." Bill Barber In a message dated 8/6/2009 11:54:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the best bag I've ever had. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:56:42 2009 Received: (qmail 24954 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:56:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:56:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BE3EF4030 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A49E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3549834AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E284C3618001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76LuVW3005224 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d48.580f598e (37553) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.1]) by cia-mb03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB032-d1c34a7b516b193; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:56:04 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MZ21 (webmail-mz21.sim.aol.com [64.12.81.102]) by smtprly-dc01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC014-d1c34a7b516b193; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:55:55 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:55:55 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com (64.12.81.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:55:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE4F7CF0ACF22-1034-1157@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Good taste X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:56:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b519a327271946193717 http://reallyrightstuff.com/mmRRS/images/full/StephenHenry-lg.jpg Got the usual RRS mailing which including this image from an arctic photo excursion. I liked the self satisfied expression. The photog escaped unscathed. Rumor has it he carried a D300. Nikonians are not noted for good taste. AG with his 3T would have been lunch. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Thu Aug 6 23:59:45 2009 Received: (qmail 12589 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 21:59:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 21:59:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2637EEF4006 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307E2E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFED19FD0D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E49519FD02 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:59:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1098226fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:59:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.197 with SMTP id w5mr36805hbb.144.1249595977737; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:59:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7B502F.9000705@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4A7B502F.9000705@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:59:37 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 72cae1ba6de0e17d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Aug 6 23:59:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b5251149651560218263 > > Uh, oh! How long does mine have yet to live? Which zipper failed and > where? > The zipper for the primary compartment, and about halfway up the left side. The camera bag was face down on the floor of the jeep behind the passenger seat. I grabbed the bag and that's all she wrote. Cameras and lenses everywhere. The flaw in backpack-style bags is that the zipper isn't just closing a protective flap, but is actually holding the contents in. When I had the bag upside down, the weight of the contents were just too much for the worn out zipper. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:04:06 2009 Received: (qmail 25569 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:04:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:04:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF66DE1822C for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD35E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7FA19FD24 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA9619FD22 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:03:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76M3tX2000476 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c55.52073d65 (65099) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:03:50 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:04:21 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:04:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b5356219631612113968 In a message dated 8/6/2009 2:10:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com writes: The OM-3 is nice but seems to be VERY rare. And though its cheaper than the 3Ti, the 3 is still more than a good 4Ti. Since I never use autoexposure, a 3 or 3Ti would seem perfect for me but the cost is a solid wall to me that I can't climb. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 2:46 PM, "JOHN DUGGAN" wrote: > Chris / Dawid, > PLEASE don't forget the OM3.....Okay I would like the Titanium > finish of the 3Ti but my OM3 still brings a smile to my face...even though I > find my 4Ti 's get more use. > Regards > John Duggan, > Wales, UK > > > --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Chris Crawford wrote: > >> From: Chris Crawford >> Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Date: Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 5:33 PM >> Dawid, >> >> You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T >> for 1/3 the price. >> The only other thing the OM-3Ti offers is a mechanical >> shutter that doesn't >> require batteries > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:06:11 2009 Received: (qmail 17201 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:06:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:06:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224D0E1806F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3642AE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E619FD23 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F1D19FD1E for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76M5ur1008229 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:05:56 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.cdf.545f79ca (65099) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:05:50 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:06:22 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:06:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b53d3177651258626592 The OM 4Ti seems to be getting cheaper and cheaper, as do other filmed based items. There was a Black one I promoted to the list a week or so nago, that seemed to be a decent deal and then I looked at what they are selling for currently . . . Bill Barber In a message dated 8/6/2009 2:10:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com writes: The OM-3 is nice but seems to be VERY rare. And though its cheaper than the 3Ti, the 3 is still more than a good 4Ti. Since I never use autoexposure, a 3 or 3Ti would seem perfect for me but the cost is a solid wall to me that I can't climb. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/6/09 2:46 PM, "JOHN DUGGAN" wrote: > Chris / Dawid, > PLEASE don't forget the OM3.....Okay I would like the Titanium > finish of the 3Ti but my OM3 still brings a smile to my face...even though I > find my 4Ti 's get more use. > Regards > John Duggan, > Wales, UK > > > --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Chris Crawford wrote: > >> From: Chris Crawford >> Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Date: Thursday, 6 August, 2009, 5:33 PM >> Dawid, >> >> You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T >> for 1/3 the price. >> The only other thing the OM-3Ti offers is a mechanical >> shutter that doesn't >> require batteries > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:09:01 2009 Received: (qmail 29326 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:08:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1E1E182B9 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10DFE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88CE19FD37 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563A919FD24 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30009 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 22:08:54 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 22:08:54 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:08:53 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:09:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b547d139301879814018 Well, almost. I'll be on Cape Cod the last week of August but I'll be in Las Vegas (Henderson, actually) from 8/2 to 8/9. Remember me when you're having a cold one with Mike and Bob. :-) Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Ken Norton wrote: >> In looking back at our spending on the trip, we blew the budget by about $500, but still spent a fraction of what most families of four spend visiting Orlando. > > I'm getting excited now. We bought air tickets, reserved a car and > reserved a place for the four nights in Brooklyn. Already blew > provisional budget by booking a place larger and better located in > Brooklyn. At least it has a kitchen, so we may save on a couple of > breakfasts and maybe a dinner. > > The car rental business is weird. We thought about doing without a car > in NY until heading north, but a rental for 3 weeks and 2-3 days is > significantly MORE expensive than renting for 28 days or more, which > gets the monthly rate. So it's cheaper to take a car in NY, even if we > were to just park it for four days. > > I've read that air fares are going up this fall, but not so far. All in > cost for two of us, on non-stops SFO to JFK and BOS to SFO is $578 on > Virgin, including bag check charges. At $15 per bag, but with a 70# > limit, we're going to be checking two very heavy bags each way, with a > couple of smaller bags inside them, and full carry-ons. At least the big > bags have wheels. :-) I don't understand how anybody can make any > money that way, but I'm not complaining. > > Off to NY for four nights Sept 8th. Then on up through the Boston area, > up through various places in Maine and back down to Boston for our > return flight, Oct 8th. Two years ago, we could fly into Portland, ME, > rent a car and drop it at JFK for a reasonable cost. This year, the > JFK-Portland route is unreasonable. Travel is really in flux. > > We plan to visit with Mike and Marnie and hope for a Whitmire sighting. > Anybody else along that corridor up for maybe a meal, beer, or some such > meeting? > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:15:48 2009 Received: (qmail 11190 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:15:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A763E18067 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02AFE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4F019FD53 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8193C19FD4F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so1083655bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:15:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.147.203 with SMTP id c11mr47670hbb.93.1249596940135; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:15:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:15:40 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c6c8f135592ca94c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:15:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b5614118821879814018 > > Can't say that it will work with your case and it might. Ask them. > Somewhere along the way I learned an important lesson in life, "If you > don't > ask, you don't get." > Good plan. Will do. It just may be that they will consider this to be a manufacturing defect or something. The fact is, regardless of the foibles, I have really enjoyed this bag and still consider it to be one of the best dollar/value photographic items I've ever come across. However, it never was up to the same level of use/abuse as the stuff that LowePro and Tamrac makes. My Magnum looks like it's been through war (and it might well have been since I bought it used for $10), but it'll probably still outlast me. This is true with all LowePro bags I've seen. You just can't kill them through normal use. The Magnum is a "work out of the car" or "set it down at the location" bag. Loaded down with a couple of motordrive equipped cameras and a dozen lenses and flashes makes it a bear to carry more than Walt's 100 feet from the car. The Elite has been my favorite "carry, but leave on shoulder" bag, but it's limited to a single motordrive-equipped camera and three lenses. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:16:37 2009 Received: (qmail 4998 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:16:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:16:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA69E18067 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722E9E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6211919FD58 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:16:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC82119FD4F for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3152 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 22:16:12 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 22:16:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7B562B.40206@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:16:11 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] The Drs in this list... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:16:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b5645153752439112457 I dubbed myself Dr. Flash since I truly believe I have more knowledge of flash than most folks on this list... but probably only because most folks don't use it. I think I was dubbed Dr. Focus because I love to use my DOF calculator. We may be hearing from Dr. No Flash soon since he is rumored to have done some outdoor portraiture recently where not a flash was fired. The mid-morning light was not terribly harsh and it is assumed that a little shadow adjustment in post-processing will look nicer than flash. But, of course, that remains to be seen. Now, if it was me, I'd of course, have opted for a touch of fill flash. Dr. Flash usher99@aol.com wrote: > Dr. Focus is the somewhat reclusive colleague of Dr. Flash but has made > more of an appearance of late. I remain quite jealous > of Chuck's formidable in house consultants. > > I think you left out Dr. No Flash, who doubles as the list logician and > all around good egg. > > Mike > > >> Ken, you are henceforth officially known as "Dr. Film". >> Can we put together a list of all the Drs already on this list? >> >> Dr. Flash >> Dr. Focus >> Dr. Bokeh >> Dr. ... > > Well, you can add me, as Dr. Stereo :) > > I am also known as DrT (because of my hard to pronounce last name) > or DrT-3d (@att.net, email) or drt3d(.com, web site) or 3d-drt-3d > (ebay, > long story) > > George Themelis > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:21:06 2009 Received: (qmail 9405 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:21:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:21:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA72AE18039 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75631E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6016534AC008 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:21:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65AD34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:21:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so9701fga.13 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:21:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.16 with SMTP id b16mr49522hbc.50.1249597260622; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:21:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:21:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3dc7bbec9f15a9f8 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:21:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b575243407801554290 > > The OM 4Ti seems to be getting cheaper and cheaper, as do other filmed > based items. There was a Black one I promoted to the list a week or so > nago, > that seemed to be a decent deal and then I looked at what they are selling > for currently . . . Bill Barber > I have too many cameras now and there is this certain enlarger that I need to pay for.... AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 00:24:46 2009 Received: (qmail 28698 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 22:24:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 22:24:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C51FE181B2 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED64E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9BA19FD64 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190E619FD5D for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so1087321bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.2 with SMTP id k2mr52908hbc.51.1249597478899; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBE4F7CF0ACF22-1034-1157@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBE4F7CF0ACF22-1034-1157@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:24:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a703a89acf0a4a73 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Good taste X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 00:24:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b582e103422517112723 > > AG with his 3T would have been lunch. > I would have offered it my Bogen 3221 tripod, but that would have been too heavy to carry. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 01:03:09 2009 Received: (qmail 24171 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 23:03:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 23:03:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8623EE1806A for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50790E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448FC34AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:03:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62F934AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n76N30to004437 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.cdd.56196bc7 (65099) for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:20 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 01:03:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b612d147451342116753 In a message dated 8/6/2009 5:15:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Good plan. Will do. It just may be that they will consider this to be a manufacturing defect or something. Yes and that replacing it would be customer service and PR. Let us know how it turns out. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 01:20:08 2009 Received: (qmail 3494 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 23:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 23:20:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD267E182CB for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92409E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D38F34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:20:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4C734AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so1609373yxe.22 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.58.8 with SMTP id g8mr983085yba.347.1249600800153; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:20:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:20:00 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e997c7b2ef705f8 Message-ID: <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 01:20:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b6528101811258626592 Very nice. I like the color saturation, and I don't know how to say in English, I wish to say I can get a feeling as I am be there of the picture ............. of course I have never been there. I'm sorry for my poor English. --- Michael 2009/8/7 Joel Wilcox > This set is a selection of about 1/3 of the shots from the third roll > of Kodachrome 25: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621961589982/ > > Recommend viewing with the slideshow link. > > Joel (Dr. Kodachrome) W. > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 01:23:46 2009 Received: (qmail 23825 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 23:23:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 23:23:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69461E182B3 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F459E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8454534AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078C534AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:23:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15106 invoked by uid 504); 6 Aug 2009 23:23:38 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 6 Aug 2009 23:23:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7B65F9.90903@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:23:37 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7B40F9.6000402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 01:23:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b66025161136683642 I must have the new and improved model. I just tried deliberately loosening the straps by pulling the buckle up as you described and it didn't give a mm. Mine has toothed buckles. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> > > Absolutely agree. I've written about that before on this list and I can't > echo your recommendations loudly enough. NEVER LEAVE THE ZIPPERS AT THE TOP > OF A BACKPACK--ANY BACKPACK!!! > > Depending on the batch that the 200EG was manufacturered, another critical > thing is the shoulder-straps themselves. All bookbag style backpacks have > the adjustment straps going through the nylon length-adjustment-buckle. The > problem is that the slightest up pressure on the buckle will cause the strap > to whip out and the bag fall to the floor. To prevent this, tie a knot in > the end of the adjustment strap to keep it from totally slipping through the > buckle. I destroyed a laptop computer and dented a 24/2.8 because of this. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 01:42:21 2009 Received: (qmail 14199 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2009 23:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 6 Aug 2009 23:42:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BC6EDC008 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714CEE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B25934AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:42:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0830234AC008 for ; 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 02:46:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b795794581950411718 Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 03:22:30 2009 Received: (qmail 7494 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 01:22:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 01:22:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAE2E180B8 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4F6E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546A61A02ED for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:22:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EBA1A02EA for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n771MMdo013012 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:22:22 +1000 Message-Id: <200908070122.n771MMdo013012@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:22:22 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:22:22 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 03:22:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b81d626576789618724 > Moose wrote: > > I don't understand how anybody can make any > money that way, but I'm not complaining. > Cut the maintenance budget and provide dodgy food ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 03:25:22 2009 Received: (qmail 15127 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 01:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 01:25:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DECEDC007 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AA9E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473C81A02F1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7541F1A02F0 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 44319 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2009 01:25:13 -0000 Message-ID: <891786.43232.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YZWBAA0VM1m2tYC1oVz6_BL06IB8Ru8XN.Mku6IfF4zL8Y5z1c_4Acd6tNEdHCFL11.zZDD7j_YC9Fu87Tr.D.Klix458mmrj.G8QtSajuK87ENUrObbRxQyJT2crdvvA7Qrs8mcPNyPWB9A4BvHcidVdEAjwpdeXYxrqlblb0N3h6Sr17Mi5dktYprzK5r3IiIo.2twkCI3JdnbhaKcG5e02SU6ebfNOgSQ9lHg6UZCW12Zf5thAhTqibpSlmLEMi39ohhRNayteQGxGEwkISKohzLmN8XZ66d3cEkIn1zmu4t1y6d3ET1oxJVbXDdw.tjthscZcUDo Received: from [87.248.121.244] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:25:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion Cc: Olympus mail list MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Could you have imagined a camera with a built-in slide projector? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 03:25:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b828217167801554290 Gimmick. They should work in improving sensors. On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 03:25:22 2009 Received: (qmail 13673 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 01:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 01:25:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAEBEDC006 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69444E240E1 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C521A02F2 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C3D1A02EF for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.67]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 44319 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2009 01:25:13 -0000 Message-ID: <891786.43232.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YZWBAA0VM1m2tYC1oVz6_BL06IB8Ru8XN.Mku6IfF4zL8Y5z1c_4Acd6tNEdHCFL11.zZDD7j_YC9Fu87Tr.D.Klix458mmrj.G8QtSajuK87ENUrObbRxQyJT2crdvvA7Qrs8mcPNyPWB9A4BvHcidVdEAjwpdeXYxrqlblb0N3h6Sr17Mi5dktYprzK5r3IiIo.2twkCI3JdnbhaKcG5e02SU6ebfNOgSQ9lHg6UZCW12Zf5thAhTqibpSlmLEMi39ohhRNayteQGxGEwkISKohzLmN8XZ66d3cEkIn1zmu4t1y6d3ET1oxJVbXDdw.tjthscZcUDo Received: from [87.248.121.244] by web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:25:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion Cc: Olympus mail list MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Could you have imagined a camera with a built-in slide projector? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 03:25:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b828284673900897491 Gimmick. They should work in improving sensors. On Aug 6, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 04:01:05 2009 Received: (qmail 7213 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 02:01:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 02:01:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029EDE180B8 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4874E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBF51A0363 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:00:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2A31A0362 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:00:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1179293fxm.37 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:00:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.2 with SMTP id k2mr72068hbc.51.1249610456248; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:00:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7B65F9.90903@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4A7B40F9.6000402@gmail.com> <4A7B65F9.90903@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:00:56 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dad0337de5db9885 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 04:01:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b8ae1114521234514069 > > I must have the new and improved model. I just tried deliberately > loosening the straps by pulling the buckle up as you described and it > didn't give a mm. Mine has toothed buckles. > Put the camera bag on just one shoulder (not using both straps, and nudge the buckle up. The teeth in the buckle are designed to release their grip on the strap so you can adjust it easily, but in this exact situation, the entire weight of the bag is being held by the teeth of the one buckle and the strap will zip through post-haste. However, the buckle design of the 200EG is better than the average cheep backpack so it is less likely to release the entire strap at once. The key thing is that if the strap end is not folded over and sewn it is free to slip out of the buckle. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 04:03:43 2009 Received: (qmail 8692 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 02:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 02:03:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C9AE18178 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46035E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A53134AC004 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991F534AC003 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f228.google.com (mail-bw0-f228.google.com [209.85.218.228]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz28 with SMTP id 28so1159684bwz.30 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:03:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr69113hbd.52.1249610617196; Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:03:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:03:37 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3ff649fd5f95837d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 04:03:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b8b7f6441136683642 > > Very nice. I like the color saturation, and I don't know how to say in > English, I wish to say I can get a feeling as I am be there of the picture > ............. of course I have never been there. I'm sorry for my poor > English. > Michael, your English was good enough that we understand what you are saying. The thing that stands out to me in these photographs is the sense of "presence" that is so missing in photography today. I'm quite taken with the 3Dness in the photos, the tonalities and the colors. K25 is amazing stuff and Joel has exploited it perfectly. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 04:46:52 2009 Received: (qmail 10090 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 02:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 02:46:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619E9E182C7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416B2E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8221A03ED for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:46:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03EE19FA9B for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:46:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 19:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.102]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n772khnL009319 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:46:44 +1000 Message-Id: <200908070246.n772khnL009319@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail15.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:46:43 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:46:43 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 04:46:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7b959c324745368819438 Here's a link: > Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > > > > > Moose wrote: > > > > I don't understand how anybody can make any > > money that way, but I'm not complaining. > > > > Cut the maintenance budget and provide dodgy food ! > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 06:29:22 2009 Received: (qmail 29474 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 04:29:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 04:29:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8302BE182C7 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29321E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13551A04FA for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B4C1A04F5 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090807042915H04008rl2pe>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:29:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:28:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 06:29:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bada280035683411216 Can someone advise of the best or most economical solution for OM-1 batteries? Or a good link to research this topic? Thank you! George T. (OM-neophyte) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 06:53:21 2009 Received: (qmail 3286 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 04:53:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 04:53:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8809EEDC013 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845E1E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A16B1A0531 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:53:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A581A04FE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:53:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8533 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 04:53:12 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-196-82.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.196.82) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 04:53:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:53:07 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 06:53:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bb341312401006886880 DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Can someone advise of the best or most economical solution for OM-1 batteries? > > Or a good link to research this topic? > There used to be a very detailed link, but it's gone away. There is lot's of discussion in the list archives, of course. The quick summary is: 1. If getting a body CLAed by John H., he will install a diode in the body and a spacer in the battery compartment. You can then use any 357 size silver oxide battery. Battery life with this and #2 is very long. 2. Buy an MR9 adapter, most appropriately from John. 3. Use 675 size zinc-air cells as made for hearing aids. More a good emergency solution than a long term one. the batteries start aging as soon as the seal is removed and don't last long whether in use or not. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 06:57:32 2009 Received: (qmail 556 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 04:57:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 04:57:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E699EDC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E85E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E2D34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:57:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C23B34AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:57:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12863 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 04:57:25 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-196-82.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.196.82) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 04:57:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7BB431.6000606@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:57:21 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 06:57:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bb43c241793900897491 Michael Wong wrote: > Very nice. I like the color saturation, and I don't know how to say in English, I wish to say I can get a feeling as I am be there of the picture ............. of course I have never been there. I'm sorry for my poor English. > Not great English, but infinitely better than my Chinese. :-) In any case, your point is clear. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 07:11:51 2009 Received: (qmail 20323 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 05:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 05:11:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDC9E180B6 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2596E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CAB34AC008 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9812E34AC005 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n775Be0q016235 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:11:40 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d39.52db19cb (65099) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:11:39 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:12:10 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 07:11:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bb797283251258626592 I go for #1 at zuiko.com. You will never be sorry about getting a camera CLAed by John. It is much like having a new OM 1 without having to get into a time machine. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/6/2009 11:53:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, olymoose@gmail.com writes: 1. If getting a body CLAed by John H., he will install a diode in the body and a spacer in the battery compartment. You can then use any 357 size silver oxide battery. Battery life with this and #2 is very long. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 08:02:33 2009 Received: (qmail 3652 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 06:02:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 06:02:32 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E84EDC036 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF5AE240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321EC34AC002 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:02:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3BC34AC001 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:02:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1218970.10461249625688438.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196-210-138-160-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za ([196.210.138.160]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 632 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:14:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <8CBE4F7CF0ACF22-1034-1157@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:02:16 +0200 References: <8CBE4F7CF0ACF22-1034-1157@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Good taste X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 08:02:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bc379250521234514069 Excellent! On 06 Aug 2009, at 11:55 PM, usher99@aol.com wrote: > http://reallyrightstuff.com/mmRRS/images/full/StephenHenry-lg.jpg -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 08:06:36 2009 Received: (qmail 28668 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 06:06:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 06:06:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DCDEDC018 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FD0E240BE for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8251CD486 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CB41CD481 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:06:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6399724.10471249625933905.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196-210-138-160-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za ([196.210.138.160]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 900 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:18:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7B794D.8090708@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:06:26 +0200 References: <4A7B794D.8090708@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Could you have imagined a camera with a built-in slide projector? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 08:06:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bc46c253561076813867 Gimmick, but a cool market opportunity in an otherwise 'flooded' market. I wish I had a projector back (basically containing a massively bright but cold light source) which I would stick on the back of my Linhof Technorama 6x17cm instead of the normal film back, to project 6x17cm slides (through the camera and same lens that took the image). That must be magnificent. Even the humongous and rare Leitz Epidiascope (there is actually one for sale around here in an old camera shop) cannot project slides of this dimension, it only goes up to 4x5in. This little nikon is the spiritual embodiment of this idea. On 07 Aug 2009, at 2:46 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 09:35:21 2009 Received: (qmail 31432 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 07:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 07:35:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8920BE1822E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6079E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF63334AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331AA34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:35:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so363294fgg.13 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:35:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.90.13 with SMTP id n13mr677142fgb.45.1249630513102; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:35:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:35:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ef6704a963a5d55 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908070035k28767dc4h836ea3a2570a6ac4@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Drs in this list... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 09:35:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bd93958701220213263 Well you can call me MrT, sucker... B. A. "I ain't goin' on no plane" Baracus > > > I am also known as DrT (because of my hard to pronounce last name) > or DrT-3d (@att.net, email) or drt3d(.com, web site) or 3d-drt-3d > > George Themelis > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 10:46:44 2009 Received: (qmail 4426 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 08:46:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 08:46:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868C8E182D8 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377ADE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B09119DC44 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E5B19DC60 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:46:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (unknown [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 01:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 360 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:58:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:46:18 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? and: OM-1m?? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 10:46:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7be9f488661357919056 I second that! I purchased Jim's Pimped (black lizard skin) OM-1 which was serviced at John in 2007, and the shutter release is smooth as butter. Any day now (I've been saying this for a year...) I want to send my mint+++ OM-1n (which has not been used for 20+ years, so is not feeling very smooth anymore) to John for the same treatment. In almost a year, I've never had the change the battery in the OM-1 converted by John, whereas the stupid zinc-air batteries last about 3 each. Of course, I almost never switch the camera meter on (and this is why, the only desirable aspect of the 3Ti for me actually is the 1/2000 mechanical shutter speed) because I will never ever be convinced that any form of reflective in-camera metering is superior to a hand-held incident light meter. Thus, it would seem kind of silly to have all those fancy multi-spot- metering buttons on the top of an OM-3/Ti if they are never used, and it's kind of silly to use an electronic camera (OM-4/Ti) is you never use the meter. Hmm... what's the solution for me.. I really want 1/2000. Ev en then I'd use ND filters, because I love shooting shallow DOF in bright light. John... How about building me an OM-1m (manual) - which involves removing the light meter, ISO dial, and silly on/off switch from an OM-1, and upgrading / installing an OM-3 shutter so that I can have 1/2000s? That's really me dream OM camera: - No meter (hey, need to get used to it, otherwise the Mamiya or Linhof will feel strange every time) - No flash. I am with Christ here, I never ever use flash, except for Macro in a previous life. - Big, uncluttered viewfinder of OM-1 (especially when the meter needs is removed, it's unbeatable) - 2-series or third-party brighter focusing screen - 1/2000s shutter speed That's all I want! OM-1 bodies are cheap enough to mess around with, I think it's be expensive to hack together an OM-3m, but that would be nice too :-) Perhaps a small pet project for me. Hmm.... But how to get 1/2000s in an OM-1? Or is the only practical way to start off with a dead OM-3? On 07 Aug 2009, at 7:12 AM, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > I go for #1 at zuiko.com. You will never be sorry about getting a > camera > CLAed by John. It is much like having a new OM 1 without having > to get > into a time machine. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 11:08:59 2009 Received: (qmail 28485 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 09:08:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 09:08:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5571EDC006 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84614E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5685819DD40 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:08:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A3419DD20 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:08:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so1924704yxe.22 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:08:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.225.17 with SMTP id x17mr675229ybg.208.1249636132738; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:08:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:08:52 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 031d2eb5fe2f9db9 Message-ID: <60f983080908070208v2a368f3fq828ce1b9927f6d8f@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 11:08:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bef2b256611234514069 Ken. Thanks for your understanding. I think good English may describe in one word, poor will describe in a lot of wordings ................ Actually, I would like to speak English much but so pity it's seldom to speak English in my life :-( --- Michael 2009/8/7 Ken Norton > > > > Very nice. I like the color saturation, and I don't know how to say in > > English, I wish to say I can get a feeling as I am be there of the > picture > > ............. of course I have never been there. I'm sorry for my poor > > English. > > > > > Michael, your English was good enough that we understand what you are > saying. > > The thing that stands out to me in these photographs is the sense of > "presence" that is so missing in photography today. I'm quite taken with > the > 3Dness in the photos, the tonalities and the colors. K25 is amazing stuff > and Joel has exploited it perfectly. > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 11:09:49 2009 Received: (qmail 26722 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 09:09:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 09:09:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7256BEDC018 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1850AE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB7634AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:09:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A118734AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:09:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1775157gxk.14 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.147.16 with SMTP id z16mr1987472ybn.240.1249636165199; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7BB431.6000606@gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> <4A7BB431.6000606@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:09:25 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: deb8124c6e316d4e Message-ID: <60f983080908070209j2faa9b4dsf6d77d48080b719a@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 11:09:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bef5d133521006886880 Ha! Thanks, Moose :-) --- Michael 2009/8/7 Moose > Michael Wong wrote: > > Very nice. I like the color saturation, and I don't know how to say in > English, I wish to say I can get a feeling as I am be there of the picture > ............. of course I have never been there. I'm sorry for my poor > English. > > > > > Not great English, but infinitely better than my Chinese. :-) In any > case, your point is clear. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 11:10:52 2009 Received: (qmail 343 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 09:10:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 09:10:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65161E1807A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A034CE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7841519DD5C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:10:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B64719D988 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:10:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MZLTK-0003by-5j for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:10:46 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:10:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 11:10:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bef9c145571234514069 George, this might help: http://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_px625.htm and even better: here you will find instructions to make your own adapter. http://www.loisir-photo.com/Documentations/Adaptateur%20MR-9%20piles/batt-adapt-us.pdf Perfect solution for you! A lot of doctoring is needed ;-) Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 00:28:30 -0400, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >Can someone advise of the best or most economical solution for OM-1 >batteries? > >Or a good link to research this topic? > >Thank you! > >George T. (OM-neophyte) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 11:13:44 2009 Received: (qmail 15381 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 09:13:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 09:13:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0B9E1806F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D48E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D4919DD7C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:13:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE5B19DD71 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:13:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so69647fga.13 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:13:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.138.134 with SMTP id p6mr101124hbp.0.1249636413792; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:13:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:13:33 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? and: OM-1m?? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 11:13:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bf048251275034211378 Dawid, The cosina built OM 2000 could be a solution... However, I'm sure the multi spot can tackle your in camera reflective metering fobia :) Iwert 2009/8/7 Dawid Loubser : > John... How about building me an OM-1m (manual) - which involves > removing the light meter, > ISO dial, and silly on/off switch from an OM-1, and upgrading / > installing an OM-3 shutter so > that I can have 1/2000s? That's really me dream OM camera: > > - No meter (hey, =A0need to get used to it, otherwise the Mamiya or > Linhof will feel strange every time) > - No flash. I am with Christ here, I never ever use flash, except for > Macro in a previous life. > - Big, uncluttered viewfinder of OM-1 (especially when the meter needs > is removed, it's unbeatable) > - 2-series or third-party brighter focusing screen > - 1/2000s shutter speed > > That's all I want! OM-1 bodies are cheap enough to mess around with, I > think it's be expensive to hack > together an OM-3m, but that would be nice too :-) > > Perhaps a small pet project for me. Hmm.... But how to get 1/2000s in > an OM-1? Or is the only practical > way to start off with a dead OM-3? > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 11:45:34 2009 Received: (qmail 20757 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 09:45:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 09:45:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5972EDC018 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C344E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FF534AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6E734AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:45:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26896 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 09:45:23 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 09:45:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7BF7B2.9010509@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:45:22 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 11:45:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bf7be301811258626592 An excellent summary by Moose and good advice. But if that hasn't completely satisfied your thirst for knowledge here is more than you'd ever likely want to know on the subject. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Can someone advise of the best or most economical solution for OM-1 batteries? >> >> Or a good link to research this topic? >> > > There used to be a very detailed link, but it's gone away. There is > lot's of discussion in the list archives, of course. The quick summary is: > > 1. If getting a body CLAed by John H., he will install a diode in the > body and a spacer in the battery compartment. You can then use any 357 > size silver oxide battery. Battery life with this and #2 is very long. > > 2. Buy an MR9 adapter, most appropriately from John. > > > 3. Use 675 size zinc-air cells as made for hearing aids. More a good > emergency solution than a long term one. the batteries start aging as > soon as the seal is removed and don't last long whether in use or not. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 11:57:08 2009 Received: (qmail 25917 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 09:57:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 09:57:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB86EDC02B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB94E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFDD19DFB3 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F8519DFA7 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 02:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4921 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 09:56:58 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-173-223.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.173.223) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 09:56:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7BFA63.9060504@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:56:51 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> <4A7BF7B2.9010509@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7BF7B2.9010509@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 11:57:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bfa7446795034211378 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > An excellent summary by Moose and good advice. But if that hasn't completely satisfied your thirst for knowledge here is more than you'd ever likely want to know on the subject. > > Thanks, Chuck. That's the reference I wanted to point to. The link I had to it was gone. I've now saved it. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 12:05:59 2009 Received: (qmail 12885 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 10:05:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 10:05:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2311DE18069 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83098E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6820D34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:05:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F1134AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:05:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15374 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 10:05:53 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-173-223.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.173.223) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 10:05:53 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7BFC7B.602@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:05:47 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 12:05:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7bfc87152301234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Well, almost. I'll be on Cape Cod the last week of August but I'll be in Las Vegas (Henderson, actually) from 8/2 to 8/9. No date conflict, as we're not leaving until early Sept. You are a little out of the way for this year's plans, though. We keep saying we are going to visit friends at Kent State and in Ithaca one of these days, which would fit right in. > Remember me when you're having a cold one with Mike and Bob. :-) > Roger, Wilco. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 12:51:08 2009 Received: (qmail 22276 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 10:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 10:51:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B39BE1822C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A1CE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E10719E1B1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:51:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306FD19E1AD for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:51:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dawidl@solms.co.za whitelisted) Received: from solms.co.za (gummybear.solms.co.za [196.22.194.227]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 03:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-UserIsAuth: true Received: from 196.214.42.106 ([196.214.42.106]) by mogli.solms.co.za (JAMES SMTP Server 2.3.1) with SMTP ID 301 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:03:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Dawid Loubser To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:50:51 +0200 References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? and: OM-1m?? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 12:51:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c071c267641076813867 OM-2000? Never! I do appreciate finely-crafted instruments, thank you :-) And look, yes, a 3Ti *would* satisfy me very much if the $$$ were readily at hand (have you sold yours yet?) but I am thinking, in the absence of, what would be my ideal camera (second best). And one which continues to force me to do everything, including metering, manually. Of course you can just switch an OM-3's meter off, yes, but it seems like such a waste... That wonderful meter... Anyway, until then, I am making gratuitious use of the fact that over- exposing black and white film by a stop really makes almost no difference to the darkroom print, and when I can, using ND filters, or shooting Pan F at ISO 32 or less to get slow shutter speeds in bright light. However, I do favour FP4 as my all-round film, because with a 24/2.0 or 50/1.4 lens, you can also take photos in some pretty bad light at ISO125. ISO 25/32 is strictly for daylight / tripod work. And here I agree with Christopher too, that, if you're going to use a tripod, just stick the medium-format camera on it. 35mm is all about agility. On 07 Aug 2009, at 11:13 AM, iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Dawid, > > The cosina built OM 2000 could be a solution... > > However, I'm sure the multi spot can tackle your in camera reflective > metering fobia :) > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 13:13:31 2009 Received: (qmail 18778 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 11:13:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 11:13:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88A3E18066 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664D8E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B3019E29F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:13:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D8C19DFA7 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:13:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12926 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 11:13:23 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-230.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.230) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 11:13:23 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090807065827.0115db18@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:13:16 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 13:13:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c0c5b102416789618724 YACBD - yet another camera bag discussion.... Based on my experience with the 200 AW, which is just not quite big enough, but also when full is not all that convenient to work from. Plus I find that the unbalanced weight on one shoulder gets tiring very quick. I wondered if scaling up to 300 would even work. I also find those zippers to be problematic. For those reasons I'm glad I went with the Kata 3N1-30 bag. But I am not carrying any OM systems these days. I find packing bigger lenses a challenge, but I almost always wish I had one when outdoors. However, if there is lunch, water, clothing involved, I don't quite have a good solution either. One alternative when I was packing OM gear was several smaller bags just packed into a regular backpack. Wayne At 10:40 AM 8/4/2009, AG wrote: > > >There was one thing I fought the whole time. The Lowe-Pro SlingShot 300 AW >bag is as close to worthless as I've come across. It is a difficult bag to >work out of. The "Top Load" limiting claspes get caught in the zipper every >time you open the bag up all the way and then try to zip it back up. The >shoulder strap is VERY slippery unless you put it up and over your >head--which is the designed way to carry it. Because the strap is so >slippery you can't just casually carry it on your shoulder for a few seconds >or minutes. Most disturbing is that the inner flaps and seams get caught in >the zipper. You're constantly having to work the inner material out of the >way every time you close the zippers. The bag does have a few redeeming >values--if you are restricted to ONE camera and two zooms, the bag is ideal, >but as I'm constantly swapping cameras and lenses, the bag was horrid for >this. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 13:20:54 2009 Received: (qmail 16169 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 11:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 11:20:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127A3E182B2 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD74E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D5534AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4BD34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:20:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23402 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 11:20:43 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 13:20:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c0e16198451258626592 Oops! I meant 9/2 to 9/9 which was why I saw the conflict. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Well, almost. I'll be on Cape Cod the last week of August but I'll >> be in Las Vegas (Henderson, actually) from 8/2 to 8/9. > > No date conflict, as we're not leaving until early Sept. You are a > little out of the way for this year's plans, though. We keep saying > we are going to visit friends at Kent State and in Ithaca one of > these days, which would fit right in. > >> Remember me when you're having a cold one with Mike and Bob. :-) >> > > Roger, Wilco. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 13:42:11 2009 Received: (qmail 2950 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 11:42:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 11:42:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4042EDC03B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2B4E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380D319E3BD for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:42:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24A819E3B8 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:42:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omls@zuik.net whitelisted) Received: from server306.com (server306.com [216.35.196.50]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 04:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32288 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 11:42:05 -0000 Received: from pool-173-76-193-230.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO p5wdh-wzok2.zuik.net) (omls@173.76.193.230) by server306.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 11:42:05 -0000 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090807072234.01169b38@zuik.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:41:59 -0400 To: Olympus Camera Discussion From: ws In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 13:42:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c1313103331234514069 YAQRBHD - yet another quick release and ballhead discussion... I feel lucky that I started with arca swiss plates from the beginning. Athough no system is perfect I find these plates are like UV filters for the bottom of the camera. I particularly like the long plates for macro lens, which allows for focusing by adjusting distance. But switching plate systems can get costly, more than just replacing the heads, the plates themselves cost. However, they tend to last forever. Acratech has been coming out with some interesting stuff such as the new GV2 ballhead. I started with a regular arca swiss ballhead but the tensioning would always jam, the weight was 3 pounds, and I abandoned it. WayneS At 10:40 AM 8/4/2009, AG wrote: > >The hex-plate QR system has run its course with me. Unfortunately, a change >will require all new heads. If I change, maybe it's time to change bases >too. Ugh. So much for "lifetime" investment. What I ended up doing was >taking my small ballhead that I use on the mini-tripod and monopod and >attached it to a QR plate. It looked kinda silly having two ballheads >stacked, but it was quite usable. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 14:17:26 2009 Received: (qmail 4070 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 12:17:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 12:17:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31C6E18065 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB9AE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005AC34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:17:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E1D34AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:17:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.8]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO000LY6A4NJKA2@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:17:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7C1B48.8070603@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:17:12 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] interesting description 110421578529 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 14:17:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c1b56118121136683642 yuck. That's in rough shape ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html iwert bernakiewicz wrote: > Just saw this one: > > Re-usable pen FT top cover, 110421578529 ykw. > > In the description: > > Expect light scratches and/or rub marks, but something that is still > in the excellent-plus to near-mint category. Do NOT expect Dings, > Dents, or Dunks. > > and then look at the images and have a good laugh :) > > Iwert -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 14:51:38 2009 Received: (qmail 1112 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 12:51:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 12:51:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5BBE1806A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0FBE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C534F34AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:51:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889ED34AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:51:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.8]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO000345BPQ8M4A@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7C2350.4070209@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:51:28 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 14:51:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c235a290771560218263 FWIW, 3Ti and 4T / Ti have the same battery drain. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chris Crawford wrote: > Dawid, > > You can get everything that Ken just listed in the OM-4T for 1/3 the price. > The only other thing the OM-3Ti offers is a mechanical shutter that doesn't > require batteries (the batteries operate the meter but you can take pictures > with dead batteries). The OM-4Ti does not use batteries fast, I replace mine > about every 6 months. Its worth the trouble to keep good batteries in the > camera when you can buy 3 bodies for the price of one. > > If someone gave me an OM-3Ti, I'd love it and use it, but I'll never buy > one. If I ever buy another OM body, it'll be another 4Ti to add to the ones > I have. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 14:52:31 2009 Received: (qmail 28162 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 12:52:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 12:52:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92E0E180B6 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45057E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D6819E5ED for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 14:52:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c238f10611258626592 I can't remember but I know it will have been discussed before I joined the list but with all this talk of the special 3Ti I feel I owe it to the community to look after it properly and wonder should I leave my shutter cocked or uncocked in between use -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:07:45 2009 Received: (qmail 12904 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:07:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:07:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FDDEDC008 for ; 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Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh40 with SMTP id 40so2181985ywh.14 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:08:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.227.14 with SMTP id z14mr2439618ybg.161.1249650522807; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:08:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7BFC7B.602@gmail.com> <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:08:42 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908070608x71ae760fu83b9e7dcea0ce417@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:09:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c277c105473900897491 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:51 AM, SwissPace wrote: > I can't remember but I know it will have been discussed before I joined > the list =A0but with all this talk of the special 3Ti I feel I owe it to > the community to look after it properly and wonder should I leave my > shutter cocked or uncocked in between use I have always thought uncocked was best. Which is one of the reasons I don't use a motor drive too often, since it tends to leave me with one last shot I need to take. This is with the non-3Ti bodies, however (sniff). ;^) Joel W. -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:10:51 2009 Received: (qmail 2629 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:10:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:10:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE07EDC02B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856EBE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6723019E6B2 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:10:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A0419E6A4 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:10:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4855 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 13:10:44 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 13:10:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7C27D3.7050900@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:10:43 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7BFC7B.602@gmail.com> <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:10:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c27db288976789618724 I don't ever recall discussion of that here (although that's likely a memory fault on my part) but I always keep the shutter uncocked so the spring isn't under constant tension. But Maitani would probably object saying the camera isn't ready to take a picture. :-) Chuck Norcutt SwissPace wrote: > I can't remember but I know it will have been discussed before I joined > the list but with all this talk of the special 3Ti I feel I owe it to > the community to look after it properly and wonder should I leave my > shutter cocked or uncocked in between use -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:17:15 2009 Received: (qmail 5717 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:17:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B277FEDC011 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3C2E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B356134AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CFF34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:17:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f201.google.com (mail-yw0-f201.google.com [209.85.211.201]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh40 with SMTP id 40so2190306ywh.14 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:17:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.153.21 with SMTP id a21mr2448137ybe.109.1249651027197; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:17:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7B5150.3010505@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> <4A7B5150.3010505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:17:07 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908070617p78866e0bn7baddf2025945856@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:17:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c295b36121234514069 Hi Chuck, My project is to capture the things around me one last time on Kodachrome. I usually take a lot of photos of the lilies on the riverbank, among other things because my wife likes having them. I got sick of doing it a couple years ago and then last year they all got covered with mud from the flood. So it's gather ye rosebuds while ye may now, so to speak. Indulge me. They are fading (as are we all I need not add). Dr. K. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > You're obviously quite taken by Tiger lillies. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Joel Wilcox wrote: >> This set is a selection of about 1/3 of the shots from the third roll >> of Kodachrome 25: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621961589982/ >> >> Recommend viewing with the slideshow link. >> >> Joel (Dr. Kodachrome) W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:20:59 2009 Received: (qmail 19687 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:20:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:20:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA58EDC00C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D66E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051D734AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B0534AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:20:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n77DKjj5018677 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:20:45 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c0e.56b0056c (30739) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:20:38 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:20:38 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-AOL-SENDER: NSURIT@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:20:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c2a3b148195683411216 Neither, you should carefully wrap it and send it to me for safe keeping. OK, uncocked. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/7/2009 7:52:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ian@picturepedia.org writes: I can't remember but I know it will have been discussed before I joined the list but with all this talk of the special 3Ti I feel I owe it to the community to look after it properly and wonder should I leave my shutter cocked or uncocked in between use -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:21:56 2009 Received: (qmail 26546 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:21:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:21:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6035FEDC021 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAB1E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7C934AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC86834AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so409323fgg.13 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:21:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.174.76 with SMTP id i12mr123792hbf.62.1249651269920; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:21:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090807065827.0115db18@zuik.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090807065827.0115db18@zuik.net> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:21:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 500ffdf72d54da55 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What worked, what didn't X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:21:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c2a7444952439112457 OMLS wrote: > But I am not carrying any OM systems these days. Well, in a way you are by proxy. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:27:26 2009 Received: (qmail 5370 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:27:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8E2EDC02E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAF5E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54A19E74E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A260C19E74B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so2079930yxe.22 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.124.13 with SMTP id w13mr2467522ybc.119.1249651640893; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908061620l5265b423tdd339ca3488d6b9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:27:20 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908070627w4cc8799ax10f390ebd555020f@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:27:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c2bbe98321006886880 Thanks Michael. I am guessing that what you wish to say might not be easy to say even in Chinese. I believe I understand you enough, and your attempt at expressing your feeling means a lot to me. Thank you! Joel W. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Michael Wong wrote: > Very nice. I like the color saturation, and I don't know how to say in > English, I wish to say I can get a feeling as I am be there of the picture > ............. of course I have never been there. I'm sorry for my poor > English. > > > --- > Michael > > > > > 2009/8/7 Joel Wilcox > >> This set is a selection of about 1/3 of the shots from the third roll >> of Kodachrome 25: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/99378213@N00/sets/72157621961589982/ >> >> Recommend viewing with the slideshow link. >> >> Joel (Dr. Kodachrome) W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:28:15 2009 Received: (qmail 11963 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:28:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:28:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D993AEDC008 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD70E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1211634AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955B534AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17966 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 13:27:57 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090806-1, 08/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:28:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c2bef22755683411216 Too bad they aren't dated. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > Pop Photo Camera Ads: > > http://www.popphoto.com/Features/85-Vintage-Photo-Ads?cid=10 > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:29:01 2009 Received: (qmail 2640 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:29:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:29:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA604EDC030 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3644E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D6319E74C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:28:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB63119E746 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:28:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1441174fxm.37 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:28:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.205 with SMTP id m13mr115559hbd.87.1249651715453; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:28:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7C27D3.7050900@chucknorcutt.com> References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7BFC7B.602@gmail.com> <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> <4A7C27D3.7050900@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:28:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 70d9ce0896e3e4d0 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:29:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c2c1d96905368819438 Just like me, mine is half-cocked. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:34:01 2009 Received: (qmail 24494 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:34:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:34:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA7BEDC00F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1059AE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DA419E773 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292EF19E75D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:33:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1444501fxm.37 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.139 with SMTP id o11mr128505hba.60.1249652034480; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <565794.29805.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> <565794.29805.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:33:54 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7228ff23fc9e616e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:34:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c2d49119291342116753 I love the M4 advertisement. Easy to load???? What were they smokin? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:48:42 2009 Received: (qmail 27650 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:48:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:48:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67803EDC03B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADE7E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1B219E7EA for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EE019E7E6 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so1931249gxk.14 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:48:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.83.1 with SMTP id k1mr2526235ybl.48.1249652915642; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:48:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908070648l3f12be33w4ed56ed0a675ca92@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:48:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c30ba245621950411718 On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Moose wrote: > DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Can someone advise of the best or most economical solution for OM-1 batteries? >> >> Or a good link to research this topic? >> > > There used to be a very detailed link, but it's gone away. There is > lot's of discussion in the list archives, of course. The quick summary is: > > 1. If getting a body CLAed by John H., he will install a diode in the > body and a spacer in the battery compartment. You can then use any 357 > size silver oxide battery. Battery life with this and #2 is very long. > > 2. Buy an MR9 adapter, most appropriately from John. > > > 3. Use 675 size zinc-air cells as made for hearing aids. More a good > emergency solution than a long term one. the batteries start aging as > soon as the seal is removed and don't last long whether in use or not. > > Moose I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they still work AFAIK) IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. Another nuance: the MR-9 adapters used to specify a 357, which was just perfect for us, since we all had them for our other bodies. The most recent versions specify a 386, which is a bit of a bummer. I don't know why the manufacturer changed this -- perhaps it was the form factor again, though they could have gotten that from an SR44. Having said all that I'm guess a 357 probably works OK with the current batch of MR-9s. I have an OM-1N with John right now being set up with an MR9 and 386. I figure that as seldom as an OM-1 requires a new battery it's not a big deal to roust out a 386. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 15:50:22 2009 Received: (qmail 16115 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 13:50:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 13:50:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55E4E18064 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FE1E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2675434AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241E234AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:50:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f212.google.com (mail-bw0-f212.google.com [209.85.218.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1399592bwz.28 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:50:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr126945hbd.52.1249653013912; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 06:50:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:50:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2d4bdcd36d135b1c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 15:50:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c311e92911612113968 > > Neither, you should carefully wrap it and send it to me for safe keeping. > OK, uncocked. Bill Barber > The vultures continue to circle... Actually, this is a very good question and I think we discussed it a couple years ago. Can't remember what John's recommendation was. But, there are two issues: 1. Spring tension. When cocked, there is pressure placed on the springs which will eventually stretch them over time. As these are "spring steel" in most cases, I don't think it easily deforms, but is possible for closet-queens. 2. Curtain wrap. Hopefully John can enlighten us on which position is best for long-term storage of the shutter curtains. And a followup question I have is whether or not storage in the cocked position or uncocked position would contribute to "flying shutter strings". For years I tried to always leave the camera uncocked, but it would usually mean the occasional wasted shot as I would take a garbage shot just to relieve the spring. How crazy is that? I think that the most important thing is that we USE these cameras. If we are using them, we really don't have to worry about springs getting weak in long-term storage, curtains binding up, fungus from growing and a general state of closet odor setting in. In reality, I've rarely ever left the camera cocked for long. In the camera bag, the shutter-release is usually going to get tripped at some point anyway. (resulting in 2-minute exposures of the lens-cap). AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 16:42:37 2009 Received: (qmail 9776 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 14:42:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 14:42:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDACCE182DA for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EA8E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D5A34AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB4434AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MZQeK-00066W-Ch for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:42:28 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <565794.29805.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7C2BDD.6050206@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: <1A1487D8BBEC4A23800502C5167B5C2B@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4A7C2BDD.6050206@chucknorcutt.com> Thread-Index: AcoXYvUcrYjQ3PMCSbyJw2ewRjDTEQACi87A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090806-1, 06/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 16:42:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c3d5d214309730998309 But they are. Very dated! No, to be serious, there is an indication of the dates on the page linked to - didn't you notice? Piers -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] Sent: 07 August 2009 14:28 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads Too bad they aren't dated. Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > Pop Photo Camera Ads: > > http://www.popphoto.com/Features/85-Vintage-Photo-Ads?cid=10 > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 16:57:03 2009 Received: (qmail 17398 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 14:57:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 14:57:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A60DE180B8 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB9E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089FA34AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7E134AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:56:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 07:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MZQsJ-000344-37 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:56:55 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:56:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> <565794.29805.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <565794.29805.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 16:57:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c40bf194241413256596 Looking through these ads (nice documentary collection, BTW) I have the same feeling which I also have with fashion in time (and fashion models!). Before the sixties everything looks a bit old fashioned and childish. In the seventies taste culminates. Very artful ads in that period. From the eighties and onward everything gets too noisy, too many screaming colours, too commercial. Anyone who agrees, or is it just my own age determining my feelings about this? Frank van Lindert Utrecht NL. On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:07:37 -0700 (PDT), AS wrote: > >Pop Photo Camera Ads: > >http://www.popphoto.com/Features/85-Vintage-Photo-Ads?cid=10 > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 17:02:14 2009 Received: (qmail 5894 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 15:02:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 15:02:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FA4E18062 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FADE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B591634AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181FB34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:02:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f212.google.com (mail-bw0-f212.google.com [209.85.218.212]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1446184bwz.28 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:02:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.139 with SMTP id o11mr140164hba.60.1249657323437; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1A1487D8BBEC4A23800502C5167B5C2B@your9ya3hf92n3> References: <565794.29805.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7C2BDD.6050206@chucknorcutt.com> <1A1487D8BBEC4A23800502C5167B5C2B@your9ya3hf92n3> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:02:03 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4602f1f3c1ba468b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 17:02:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c41f6161321136683642 I actually have a collection of those old mags. It's always fun to leaf through them once in a while. I amazes me how aggressive Pentax was in the sports-photography arena, even though they weren't overly successful. The staff photographers continued to use Nikon (and some Canon), but the freelancers did buy Pentax in droves. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 17:05:12 2009 Received: (qmail 9248 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 15:05:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 15:05:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F37AE182D1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78850E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E74919EA1C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042C019EA25 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n77F55Q5020888 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:05:05 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.ca9.4b51f610 (37048) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.168]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB036-b22d4a7c429624f; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:05:02 -0400 Received: from webmail-mf14 (webmail-mf14.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.227]) by smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE012-b22d4a7c429624f; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:04:54 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:04:54 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 172.20.112.100 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 172.20.112.100 by webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.227) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:04:54 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 17:05:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c42a8140235034211378 Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid 357/303's seem to do fine, but I like the ones below for my 4T. Mike (student of Dr. Battery) http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they still work AFAIK) IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 17:10:03 2009 Received: (qmail 6824 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 15:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 15:10:02 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5296FE18055 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D469E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BA334AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:09:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D10434AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:09:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so122388fga.13 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:09:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.31.17 with SMTP id e17mr1022852fge.47.1249657795472; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:09:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:09:55 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 666fbacf24a75bca Message-ID: <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 17:10:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c43cb304461220213263 Warning - don't use www.sr44.com - site accepts orders and payments but is out of business - I had to file a PayPal claim to get my $$ back. Microbattery.com seem to be the right guys to use now. Jez On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain > 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has > formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid > 357/303's seem to do fine, > but I like the ones below for my 4T. > > Mike (student of Dr. Battery) > > > http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr > > > > > > I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which > were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready > changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill > the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they > still work AFAIK) > > IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I > believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall > that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 18:15:19 2009 Received: (qmail 8296 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 16:15:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 16:15:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BABBE182D0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3D2E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DD434AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:15:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF57034AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:15:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.8]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO000F0ML4I1DU3@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:14:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7C52F3.8030406@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:14:43 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 18:15:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c531772702517112723 MR-9 adapter with 386 silver oxide battery. or overhaul with MR9 diode built into meter circuit. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Can someone advise of the best or most economical solution for OM-1 > batteries? > > Or a good link to research this topic? > > Thank you! > > George T. (OM-neophyte) > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 18:31:07 2009 Received: (qmail 29337 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 16:31:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 16:31:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB80E180CD for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63400E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6B434AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:31:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CAA34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:31:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.8]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO00004WLVI90W6@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:30:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:30:56 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-reply-to: <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Subject: Re: [OM] Maitani eulogy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 18:31:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c56cb223625368819438 http://zuikography.com/?p=108 ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 18:47:34 2009 Received: (qmail 2181 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 16:47:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 16:47:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C0FEDC04A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1DCE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022B934AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:47:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA2334AC00A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17856 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 16:47:26 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 18:47:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c5aa6225851342116753 Thanks. No, I didn't notice the date in the link. My wife would say, "That's just like you". :-) Chuck Norcutt Piers Hemy wrote: > But they are. Very dated! > > No, to be serious, there is an indication of the dates on the page linked to > - didn't you notice? > > Piers > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com] > Sent: 07 August 2009 14:28 > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] Camera ads > > Too bad they aren't dated. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > AS wrote: >> Pop Photo Camera Ads: >> >> http://www.popphoto.com/Features/85-Vintage-Photo-Ads?cid=10 >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 18:49:48 2009 Received: (qmail 21088 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 16:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 16:49:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066D2E18062 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4094E240E1 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1E334AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3002234AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.212.8]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO000JQ2MQOZK55@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:49:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:49:38 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 18:49:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c5b2c235145368819438 Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. I can't believe that site is still up and taking money! ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Jez Cunningham wrote: > Warning - don't use www.sr44.com - site accepts orders and payments but is > out of business - I had to file a PayPal claim to get my $$ back. > > Microbattery.com seem to be the right guys to use now. > > Jez > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > >> Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain >> 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has >> formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid >> 357/303's seem to do fine, >> but I like the ones below for my 4T. >> >> Mike (student of Dr. Battery) >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr >> >> >> >> >> >> I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which >> were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready >> changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill >> the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they >> still work AFAIK) >> >> IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I >> believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall >> that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 19:29:54 2009 Received: (qmail 26570 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 17:29:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 17:29:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C4FEDC052 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A67E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEBB19EF4C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:29:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B5319EF1F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:29:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20407 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 17:29:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7C6489.9060309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:29:45 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Maitani eulogy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 19:29:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c6492187891258626592 And I was not terribly surprised to see your own quote there... one you've mentioned here I think more than once. Chuck Norcutt John Hermanson wrote: > http://zuikography.com/?p=108 > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 19:54:08 2009 Received: (qmail 24682 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 17:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 17:54:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D740EEDC044 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C8EE240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F8334AC00A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652A334AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:54:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090807175401H030024q7ee>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:54:01 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <59D91F017695455594A4B93D00C56064@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> <4A7C6489.9060309@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:53:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Olympus OM stereo camera? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 19:54:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c6a4028911612113968 You know what would be nice? If John, or someone else, could build a stereo camera, based on two Olympus OM-1 cameras. It should not be very hard, and there are plenty of inexpensive camera bodies around to experiment with. I would personally pay up to $2,000 of one such camera. Others have made stereo cameras out of a variety of camera bodies of the same era or later. A German genius, name Fritz Ochotta, build stereo cameras based on the following camera bodies: Yashica FXD, Yashica FX-103, Contax 139. You can read more about this guy and see pictures of his cameras in my 3d blog: http://drt3d.blogspot.com/ He then taught the RBT company (www.rbt-3d.de) to make these Siamese stereo cameras. RBT combined a number of cameras through the years. These include the following SLR cameras: - Yashica 108 bodies, Yashica/Contax (Y/C) mount - Ricoh KR 10M, XR-X3000, XR-X3PF bodies, Pentax K mount - Cosina Cs1 bodies, Pentax K mount - Cosina FM10 bodies, Nikon F mount And the following rangefinder cameras: - Konica Hexar bodies, fixed 35mm f2.0 lenses - Voigtlander Bessa R2, R2a, R2b, R3a bodies, Leica M mount - Zeiss Icon bodies, Leica M mount Some of these are still available for sale now. I know of another person in the UK who made a stereo camera out of Minolta X370 cameras. So, let's see.... Yashica, Contax, Ricoh (Pentax mounts), Cosina (Pentax, Nikon mounts), Minolta.... What is missing? OLYMPUS!!! (also Canon, for some unknown reason) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 20:41:56 2009 Received: (qmail 16890 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 18:41:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 18:41:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DAAE18174 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221F2E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F82334AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E0734AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:41:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1616728fxm.37 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:41:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.99.12 with SMTP id w12mr1121814fgb.77.1249670507508; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:41:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:41:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52b2016d513e63e4 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908071141p5d0118deqc6118cb384ed17e7@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 20:41:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c7574161545368819438 And they come up first on Google if you search on sr44 :-( "I was feeling lucky" ? Jew On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:49 PM, John Hermanson wrote: > Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. > I can't believe that site is still up and taking money! > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Jez Cunningham wrote: > > Warning - don't use www.sr44.com - site accepts orders and payments but > is > > out of business - I had to file a PayPal claim to get my $$ back. > > > > Microbattery.com seem to be the right guys to use now. > > > > Jez > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > > > >> Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain > >> 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has > >> formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid > >> 357/303's seem to do fine, > >> but I like the ones below for my 4T. > >> > >> Mike (student of Dr. Battery) > >> > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which > >> were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready > >> changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill > >> the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they > >> still work AFAIK) > >> > >> IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I > >> believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall > >> that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. > >> > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 21:00:06 2009 Received: (qmail 12812 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 19:00:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 19:00:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73362E180B6 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B44E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F9234AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:59:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B95E34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so152650fga.13 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.147.203 with SMTP id c11mr162781hbb.93.1249671597170; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <59D91F017695455594A4B93D00C56064@home> References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> <4A7C6489.9060309@chucknorcutt.com> <59D91F017695455594A4B93D00C56064@home> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:59:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 89f382fcee6192a9 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus OM stereo camera? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 21:00:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c79b6100881006886880 DrT. I'm Impressed, you take this stuff seriously. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 21:17:39 2009 Received: (qmail 13816 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 19:17:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 19:17:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7506EE182C8 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0201BE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34BF19F669 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:17:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31DC19F621 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:17:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090807191733H04008scr7e>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:17:33 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <6A5A170A19A345F1A0A615E36EC709DF@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za><4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> <4A7C6489.9060309@chucknorcutt.com><59D91F017695455594A4B93D00C56064@home> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:17:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus OM stereo camera? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 21:17:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c7dd336252013633067 > I'm Impressed, you take this stuff seriously. Well, yes, thank you!. I became aware of stereo photography in 1988 through my graduate studies (a short stereo biography is at www.georgethemelis.com) while taking a class on the Scanning Electron Microscope. One lab had us take stereo pairs. I was very impressed and while researching the topic, I discovered that stereo photography was very popular in the 1950s in the US. I saw pictures of the Stereo Realist and in few months I found one in a garage sale. I asked my wife's permission (ahhh, the good old times, she never suspected what would follow when she gave the OK) and I bought it. So in 1988 I shot my first roll of stereo pictures with the Stereo Realist and I was immediately hooked. This was the beginning of a obsession that never went away :) George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 21:53:59 2009 Received: (qmail 244 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 19:53:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 19:53:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42DFEDC019 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F18DE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4706D34AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F1A34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RXqR1c0091vN32cA6Xtt6B; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:53:53 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.21.28.234]) by OMTA22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RXx21c00J533qFs8iXx3bL; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:57:03 +0000 Message-ID: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> From: "Darin" To: "OM List" Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:53:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 21:53:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c865750712439112457 Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You know where. 220463638551 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 22:02:26 2009 Received: (qmail 5644 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 20:02:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 20:02:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344F2E1822D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C7FE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3029619F95E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968E119F959 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:02:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuikooh@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f212.google.com (mail-bw0-f212.google.com [209.85.218.212]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1605930bwz.28 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:02:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.68 with SMTP id r4mr173972hbe.12.1249675339118; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:02:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:02:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: iwert bernakiewicz To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 22:02:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c8852189272439112457 Building an =FCberOMstereocamera? Iwert 2009/8/7 Darin : > Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You kno= w where. 220463638551 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 22:05:42 2009 Received: (qmail 4962 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 20:05:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 20:05:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6555AE181AC for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F54E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B6719F95C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:05:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD0619F88E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:05:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MZVgy-0006C1-1m for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:05:32 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:05:27 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoXmgPS5+eYDmb6QzSqJrs8l7gLXwAAD/Ag X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 07/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 22:05:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c891666551234514069 Beat me to it, Iwert! I think George DrT has something to admit to here! Piers = -----Original Message----- From: iwert bernakiewicz [mailto:zuikooh@gmail.com] = Sent: 07 August 2009 21:02 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? Building an =FCberOMstereocamera? Iwert 2009/8/7 Darin : > Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You = > know where. 220463638551 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 22:16:04 2009 Received: (qmail 30697 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 20:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 20:16:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEE4EDC033 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F60E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445B719F97A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:15:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141C519EE49 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:15:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RXmz1c0040b6N64ABYFb1l; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.21.28.234]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RYFq1c005533qFs8PYFr4y; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:15:51 +0000 Message-ID: <618987B6092B47EC846165F1A332D983@daingtanfxkwk9> From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:15:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 22:16:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c8b84279411258626592 That was my thought too. iwert wrote: >Building an =FCberOMstereocamera? > >Iwert > >2009/8/7 Darin : > Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You kno= w = > where. 220463638551 > -- -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 22:17:24 2009 Received: (qmail 31682 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 20:17:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 20:17:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCFDEDC02C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F2E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CC834AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:17:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D727434AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:17:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1660414fxm.37 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.136 with SMTP id i8mr3486432bkg.160.1249676231598; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:17:11 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908071317o7e7557e2t4fcd2a7183c64426@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 22:17:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c8bd442696107113666 They look as if forced into the Borg Collective. Resistance is futile. Charlie On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Darin wrote: > Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You know > where. 220463638551 > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 22:18:49 2009 Received: (qmail 5381 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 20:18:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 20:18:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCDDEDC03C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF2BE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07F834AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:18:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC2934AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:18:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RYG91c0091u4NiLA5YJl7Y; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:18:45 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.21.28.234]) by OMTA21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RYJk1c009533qFs8hYJkZh; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:18:45 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:18:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 22:18:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c8c2989601413256596 LOL! Ok Dr Stereo, fill us in. Piers wrote: > >Beat me to it, Iwert! I think George DrT has something to admit to here! > >Piers > >-----Original Message----- >From: iwert bernakiewicz [mailto:zuikooh@gmail.com] >Sent: 07 August 2009 21:02 >To: Olympus Camera Discussion >Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? > >Building an =FCberOMstereocamera? > >Iwert > >2009/8/7 Darin : > Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You > know where. 220463638551 > -- -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 22:33:57 2009 Received: (qmail 15691 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 20:33:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 20:33:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96732E18228 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4054E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A377719F9B3 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B75619F9B7 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090807203352H04008ropee>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:33:52 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <26161D730913461E9BB7BD2B1095B4B2@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:33:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 22:33:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c8fb5306072439112457 > Beat me to it, Iwert! I think George DrT has something to admit to here! I have nothing to do with this! It is a mystery to me too. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 23:09:09 2009 Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 21:09:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 21:09:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF61E182CC for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D03AE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414C534AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFEF34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d.rhein@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RXil1c0031bwxycABZ8oHD; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:08:48 +0000 Received: from daingtanfxkwk9 ([24.21.28.234]) by OMTA18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RZBz1c002533qFs8eZBzaZ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:12:00 +0000 Message-ID: <38645C44C8CF44B6B939A858B8B2B143@daingtanfxkwk9> From: "Darin" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> <26161D730913461E9BB7BD2B1095B4B2@home> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:09:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 23:09:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c97f5203699752976205 Do you think it could be some kinda stereo set-up? Darin DrT wrote: >> Beat me to it, Iwert! I think George DrT has something to admit to here! > > I have nothing to do with this! > > It is a mystery to me too. > > George > -- -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 23:10:28 2009 Received: (qmail 17466 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 21:10:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 21:10:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F65EDC02E for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACDAE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2D619FA76 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:10:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A0E19FA50 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1682169fxm.37 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.10 with SMTP id g10mr163291hbc.20.1249679421700; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:10:21 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 335ecf0531f4d747 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 23:10:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c9844216291234514069 I'm intruiged. It is a mystery what/where/why/how/who of the wiring job, but considering that it was university fodder, who knows what mysteries lie beyond the eb*y pictures. Please, will somebody buy it? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 23:18:20 2009 Received: (qmail 29381 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 21:18:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 21:18:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DDAEDC02A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A67E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA67219FAAA for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:18:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A553A19FAA9 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:18:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090807211813H05002irt3e>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:18:14 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9><26161D730913461E9BB7BD2B1095B4B2@home> <38645C44C8CF44B6B939A858B8B2B143@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:18:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 23:18:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c9a1c83091560218263 > Do you think it could be some kinda stereo set-up? Any two cameras could be a potential stereo set-up. But could be other things as well. One camera is missing the lens so we don't know if initially there were two identical lenses (important for stereo). There are a lot of wires in the back that I don't know what they are for. The easiest way to connect/synchronize the cameras is through the winders. There is no device to hold/align the cameras. So, it is hard to tell. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Fri Aug 7 23:30:37 2009 Received: (qmail 25053 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 21:30:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 21:30:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC2E1822B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D7AE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445419FAFB for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB36E19FAF6 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (oiwert@eso.org whitelisted) Received: from mail194.messagelabs.com (mail194.messagelabs.com [85.158.140.211]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: oiwert@eso.org X-Msg-Ref: server-3.tower-194.messagelabs.com!1249680628!22707739!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.1.3; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [134.171.75.149] Received: (qmail 5735 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2009 21:30:28 -0000 Received: from aeon.hq.eso.org (HELO aeon.hq.eso.org) (134.171.75.149) by server-3.tower-194.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 21:30:28 -0000 Received: from mercury.hq.eso.org (mercury.hq.eso.org [134.171.7.20]) by aeon.hq.eso.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9945A62D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:29:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from prillo.hq.eso.org (prillo.hq.eso.org [134.171.75.134]) by mercury.hq.eso.org (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id n77LUSPC007155 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:30:28 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.5.33] (mnch-4d04f019.pool.mediaWays.net [77.4.240.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: oiwert) by prillo.hq.eso.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81123E592 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:28:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:30:20 +0200 From: Olaf Iwert User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Subject: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Fri Aug 7 23:30:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7c9cfd102913900897491 Dear all, Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? If noone has a hardware part, it would be very instructive to get a drawing of this part in order to verify how one could build one..... The second Iwert on the list -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 00:03:52 2009 Received: (qmail 27791 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 22:03:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 22:03:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D345E1822C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8CCE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EA419FBD0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8985419FBC9 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m26.mail.aol.com (imo-m26.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-m26.mail.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n77M1BTM010902 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c0a.5f5b6f74 (39332) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:03:36 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 00:03:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ca4c8302812013633067 In a message dated 8/7/2009 4:30:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, oiwert@eso.org writes: Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? With patience you will find one. My experience has been that you need the Olympus version as the other non-Olympus versins of a 49-72mm step up ring (which is what this is) will not work. The 49mm end is too thick and will not fit in the place it needs to fit on your lens. If my assessment of the problem is incorrect, I'm sure others will let us know. I had an extra a few years ago, however it has long since gone to another list member. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 00:56:33 2009 Received: (qmail 23760 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 22:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 22:56:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FFAE1806A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E78E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E021534AC008 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E6434AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15787 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 22:56:25 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 22:56:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:56:24 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> In-Reply-To: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 00:56:33 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb121323981220213263 Assuming the eSIF image is to scale, it would appear that the back side of the filter must rise about 7mm above the plane of the end of the 49mm filter threads in order to clear the front element. Step-up rings are available from 49 -> 52, 55, 58, 62, 67, 72 (and even 77). It would seem that this could be constructed from 2 or 3 separate rings. This has to have been discussed here 100 times before but I don't recall the outcome. Chuck Norcutt Olaf Iwert wrote: > Dear all, > > Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up > ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? > > If noone has a hardware part, it would be very instructive to get a > drawing of this part in order to verify how one could build one..... > > The second Iwert on the list -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 00:57:23 2009 Received: (qmail 20470 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 22:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 22:57:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE91E18256 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812D2E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761C334AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA2734AC008 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:57:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16299 invoked by uid 504); 7 Aug 2009 22:57:16 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 00:57:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb152217225368819438 Ah, yes. Now I remember the thickness problem. Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 8/7/2009 4:30:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > oiwert@eso.org writes: > > > Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up > ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? > > > With patience you will find one. My experience has been that you need the > Olympus version as the other non-Olympus versins of a 49-72mm step up ring > (which is what this is) will not work. The 49mm end is too thick and will > not fit in the place it needs to fit on your lens. If my assessment of the > problem is incorrect, I'm sure others will let us know. I had an extra a > few years ago, however it has long since gone to another list member. Bill > Barber > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 00:58:22 2009 Received: (qmail 29585 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 22:58:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 22:58:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A79E180B6 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCE6E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8B019FCF0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:58:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F187C19FCF2 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:58:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n77MwAg3017342 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:58:10 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c53.535beb28 (37045) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.168]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB033-b2304a7cb17db9; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:58:06 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MZ22 (webmail-mz22.sim.aol.com [64.12.81.103]) by smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE015-b2304a7cb17db9; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:58:05 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:58:05 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com (64.12.81.103) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:58:05 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE5C9A8899347-14C-944@WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Paging Dr. Stereo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 00:58:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb18e162376107113666 1. Wonder what your take on this jobber is: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/09072206fujifilmw1.asp#press 2. With all this stero talk, I've been thinking my Mirex Tilt-shift adapter for OM might be perfect for a try of macro stereo. I can tilt the plane of focus some as desired and then shift precisely to get a second image. It may be easier said then done at higher mags. I suspect there are some nice precise formulas to figure out how much to shift. Perhaps a table by focal length and magnification rather than distance to subject would be easiest. I can't use the lens markings directly due to the extra extension of the adapter. I think shifting the red channel over after scanning might be easiest to start, but this is a new world. I have visions of 3d jumping spiders, but high mag might not be the place to start. Stereo Newbie, Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:03:53 2009 Received: (qmail 3677 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:03:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:03:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCD6E18064 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FB9E240BE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BE919FD05 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:03:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B3419FD09 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:03:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 23 days 03:28:04 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-24-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.24.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n77N3ecb008418 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:03:41 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:03:47 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:03:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb2d997662517112723 Indeed, but this is the first one in which the idea of building one has been raised ... Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > This has to have been discussed here 100 times before but I don't recall > the outcome. > > Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:16:19 2009 Received: (qmail 5039 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:16:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:16:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC2DE182B9 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FF3E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C4C19FD3F for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:16:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43E719FD57 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:16:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14448 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 23:16:11 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-160-79.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.160.79) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 23:16:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CB5B4.2090703@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:16:04 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> In-Reply-To: <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> Subject: [OM] To OM2000 or not to OM2000 [was Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? and: OM-1m??] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:16:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb5c3224251342116753 Dawid Loubser wrote: > OM-2000? Never! I do appreciate finely-crafted instruments, thank you :-) > Have you ever seen/handled/used one? It's clearly not a true OM, but neither is it cheesy feeling. A nice, solid feeling little body. It has features that are either unique or unique combined in one body, within OMdom. 1. All mechanical. Battery is only for light meter. 2. Full mirror-aperture pre-fire. 1 & 2 together are unique in a useful way. 3. Adjustable delay, mechanical self-timer. Important as it means only a 3-4 sec. minimum wait for pre-fire vs. fixed 12 sec. on OM-2Sp and OM-4 series. You can actually activate and use it for vibration control about as quickly than the mechanical aperture/mirror lock-up mechanism on a Nikon F2, depending on your manual dexterity. 2 & 3 together are unique in a useful way. 4. 1/2000 shutter speed 5. 1/125 flash sync. Fastest of any OM and twice that of the non AF bodies. 6. Truly unique - It's the only OM mount body ever to feature perfectly registered multiple exposures without pain. On all other OMs, one must wind the film tight with the rewind crank and hold that, while activating the rewind lever or button and cocking the shutter with the advance lever. It's a high dexterity dance with minimal chance of complete success. Too much tension and the film moves back, too little and it moves forward. The OM2000 has a little lever that decouples the wind lever from the film advance mechanism, allowing the shutter to cock with no film movement at all. There are a few uses for which it is the best OM mount film body. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:17:44 2009 Received: (qmail 19427 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:17:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:17:42 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDECE180CD for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D96AE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74B919FD6D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C6119FD57 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om4t@eastlink.ca whitelisted) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.39.10]) by mta02.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0KO1000454PDAFU0@mta02.eastlink.ca> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:17:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from blk-222-217-30.eastlink.ca (HELO hudson) ([24.222.217.30]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with SMTP; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:17:37 -0300 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:17:37 -0300 From: John Hudson To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvEJANtSfEoY3tke/2dsb2JhbACBTIlRxRUJhA0FhB8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,344,1246849200"; d="scan'208";a="5185694" X-EsetScannerBuild: 5423 References: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070035k28767dc4h836ea3a2570a6ac4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] The Drs in this list... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:17:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb61843341220213263 Does Dr T have an earned doctorate from an acredited university? If so, what degree and from where? jh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jez Cunningham" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [OM] The Drs in this list... > Well you can call me MrT, sucker... > > > B. A. "I ain't goin' on no plane" Baracus > > >> >> >> I am also known as DrT (because of my hard to pronounce last name) >> or DrT-3d (@att.net, email) or drt3d(.com, web site) or 3d-drt-3d >> >> George Themelis >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4313 (20090806) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4316 (20090807) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:19:46 2009 Received: (qmail 3016 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:19:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F80E1822C for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481ACE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCDF3618006 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:19:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADBA3618004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17952 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 23:19:41 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-160-79.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.160.79) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 23:19:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CB689.9050405@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:19:37 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:19:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb692124791234514069 John Hermanson wrote: > Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. I can't believe that site is still up and taking money! > I sent a little money a few months ago. Long after I'd given up, batteries arrived. I suspect it's an individual who collects orders until there are enough to justify a wholesale buy, then distributes them. Not appealing, but, at least in my experience, not outright dishonest. I won't be buying from there again, though. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:31:29 2009 Received: (qmail 2863 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:31:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:31:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06FEE182B0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057E0E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBF219FDA4 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:31:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D8919FD7A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:31:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31389 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 23:31:21 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-160-79.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.160.79) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 23:31:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:31:18 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:31:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cb951126841076813867 Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Indeed, but this is the first one in which the idea of building one has been raised ... > I'm not so sure about that. I seem to recall someone floating the idea of getting Joe Beljan or another machinist to run off a small batch. Certainly I recall the idea of sanding or grinding down the outside of the rear thread area on a regular adapter being discussed. I don't recall anyone reporting either attempt or success. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:35:51 2009 Received: (qmail 20456 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:35:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:35:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBD9E18066 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22827E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3A534AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78F934AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:35:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3911 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 23:35:46 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-160-79.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.160.79) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 23:35:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CBA4F.3090900@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:35:43 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> Subject: [OM] Tests of the Oly lenses for the E-P1 added to dpreview. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:35:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cba5777221879814018 Tests of the 17/2.8 and 14-42mm micro4/3 Zuikos. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:44:20 2009 Received: (qmail 25772 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:44:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1095E18178 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4500DE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADCD34AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A2A34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [207.115.11.52]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090807234415H02001mrg9e>; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:44:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8CBE4F35753579A-1034-1015@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com><9f07ac840908070035k28767dc4h836ea3a2570a6ac4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:44:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] The Drs in this list... X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:44:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cbc5410291258626592 > Does Dr T have an earned doctorate from an acredited university? > If so, what degree and from where? Is this an interrogation? :) Yes, PhD degree from Northwestern University (Evanston, IL), Department of Materials Science & Engineering. It is there that I discovered stereoscopic imaging... My PhD thesis is decorated with stereopairs, but my thesis advisor did not have vision in one eye, so he could not share my enthusiasm for stereo :) After I graduated, in 1990, I got a job as a research Metallurgist in a Steel Company. I continued to use stereo pairs with the Scanning Electron Microscope. My company closed in 2001 and I have been "doing 3d" full time since then. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:50:17 2009 Received: (qmail 24662 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:50:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:50:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A844AEDC023 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9116EE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E2534AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:50:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA8F34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:50:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20875 invoked by uid 502); 7 Aug 2009 23:50:12 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-160-79.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.160.79) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 7 Aug 2009 23:50:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:50:09 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:50:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cbdb911221357919056 BTW, a model LC-72 "E-Accessory" lens cap works fine on the 18/3.5 hood/step-up ring. Looks much better than the generic mine came came with. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 01:57:07 2009 Received: (qmail 1311 invoked by uid 0); 7 Aug 2009 23:57:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 23:57:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EB2EDC014 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD16EE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1F534AC005 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BE934AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so2632283yxe.22 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:57:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.107.21 with SMTP id j21mr3521692ybm.102.1249689419803; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:56:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7CB5B4.2090703@gmail.com> References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A7CB5B4.2090703@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908071656h69e873bel6b3ce9143a01c049@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] To OM2000 or not to OM2000 [was Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? and: OM-1m??] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 01:57:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cbf53277256107113666 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Moose wrote: > Dawid Loubser wrote: >> OM-2000? Never! I do appreciate finely-crafted instruments, thank you :-) >> > > Have you ever seen/handled/used one? It's clearly not a true OM, but > neither is it cheesy feeling. A nice, solid feeling little body. It has > features that are either unique or unique combined in one body, within > OMdom. Yup. Also includes CW and spot metering. Olympus and Nikon, maybe Canon?, were all on the same bandwagon -- meaning, this body appeared under a variety of marques. I think the OM2000 is the only one that had spot metering. Gary Reese used it for a number of his lens tests, but the self-timer broke. He was initially quite enthusiastic about the body but lost interest in it after that. The selftimer is quite flimsy. It's very similar to the selftimer on my FE2 and FM2, just not as good. Not really made to hold up to a whole lot of MLU duty. I should use mine more. It's one of the few things Olympus I bought new. It takes flawless photos, and while I don't prefer it to any of the single digit OMs, it's more than OK. I just have too many other options! Joel W.. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 02:00:53 2009 Received: (qmail 29070 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 00:00:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 00:00:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9630E182B8 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68380E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4554E34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:00:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA09D3628002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:00:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20090808000046H01002f6jge>; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:00:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <2D6F35AA28074C8A8E8DBA720AEFC870@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8CBE5C9A8899347-14C-944@WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:00:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Stereo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 02:00:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cc035221924877110844 > 1. Wonder what your take on this jobber is: > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/09072206fujifilmw1.asp#press THIS is the hottest thing that has happened in the world of do-it-yourself stereo since the introduction of the Stereo Realist camera in 1947. It is the first TRUE digital stereo camera. Up to now, digital stereo photography was done either with one camera (and shift) or two cameras synchronized with various ways. This camera makes digital stereo easier and more convenient, and it has the potential to create a new wave of do-it-yourself stereo photography (just like the Stereo Realist did in the 1950s). Because of the lack of a simple digital stereo camera (like this), a lot of stereo photographers (most members of our stereo club, for example) are still using film cameras. But things might change soon. What is still missing is a good way to view (and project) stereo pictures, equivalent in quality and simplicity to a stereo slide viewer. But there are developments in this area too. So, this is very important and every stereo enthusiast is (or should be) watching the developments with great interest. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 02:05:58 2009 Received: (qmail 24450 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 00:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 00:05:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D46E18068 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19907E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E899F3618001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:05:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBFB34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:05:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7231 invoked by uid 502); 8 Aug 2009 00:05:43 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-187-83.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.187.83) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 00:05:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CC154.1000605@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:05:40 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <200908070122.n771MMdo013012@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200908070122.n771MMdo013012@mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Speaking of vacations [was This looks like a deal ...} X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 02:05:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cc166190261950411718 Wayne Harridge wrote: > > Cut the maintenance budget and provide dodgy food ! > One of the good things about Virgin America to date is that it's a start-up and the aircraft are all new. We mostly bring our own food nowadays, with most economy fares not including any food. Airport food providers have seen the opportunity and stepped into the breach. There is some first rate take aboard food available. The Wolfgang Puck sandwiches we ate 2-3 years ago on the way from O'Hare to NY were just excellent. Funny how I'm happy to pay an amount for food to take on the plane with me that I'd complain about as additional fare for a flight with free food. Oh, that's right, the free food had been crap for any seat I would buy for ages. :-) I did have some memorable meals back in the 70s traveling first class on business. Although the Canadian wine Air Canada served back then was crap. The peak was a flight to Chicago catered by the Blackhawk Restaurant. A chef in whites and toque rolled a silver plated serving cart with roll-open top (a mini version of the restaurant ones) down the aisle and cut your prime rib to your order. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 02:14:59 2009 Received: (qmail 19058 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 00:14:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 00:14:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15728E18063 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21872E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E63034AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:14:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F1C34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:14:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 23 days 04:39:10 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-24-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.24.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n780EdgK012782 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:14:40 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7CC375.5070203@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:14:45 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 02:14:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cc383156881006886880 Should be as you say, Moose. I do recall the same about the MD caps for the 1 and 2 models. And I do recall what you say about making a regular 49 ->72 adapter to fit a 18/3,5 Cannot be too difficult or expensive - I don't have a 18/3,5, but when I bought my black OM 1n from a guy who appeared here for a short while, he was selling the original adapter alone. I bought it, and passed it along to the only one in Montevideo who is a proud owner of a 18/3,5. He promised to lend it to me if I happened to need it. I'm waiting for that need to occur :-) Fernando. Moose wrote: > Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > >> Indeed, but this is the first one in which the idea of building one has been raised ... >> >> > > I'm not so sure about that. I seem to recall someone floating the idea > of getting Joe Beljan or another machinist to run off a small batch. > > Certainly I recall the idea of sanding or grinding down the outside of > the rear thread area on a regular adapter being discussed. I don't > recall anyone reporting either attempt or success. > > Moose > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 02:20:06 2009 Received: (qmail 22248 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 00:20:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 00:20:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24289E18064 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DE4E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E13F34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:20:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C936D34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:19:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 23 days 04:44:17 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-24-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.24.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n780JrFX012986 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:19:54 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7CC4B0.5030508@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:20:00 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Maitani eulogy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 02:20:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cc4b619181234514069 Now, ... I will find out who is "Mr. Julio F. from Uruguay wrote in Nelsonfoto.com". We're a small population here, and an Olympus user should be quickly recognized by another ... :-) Fernando. John Hermanson wrote: > http://zuikography.com/?p=108 > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 02:44:20 2009 Received: (qmail 30812 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 00:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 00:44:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E843E181A3 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9C3E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819EA34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:44:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86F034AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16317 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 00:44:12 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 00:44:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CCA5B.9060403@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:44:11 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> <4A7CBA4F.3090900@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7CBA4F.3090900@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Tests of the Oly lenses for the E-P1 added to dpreview. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 02:44:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cca64198244877110844 Hmmm. Neither lens comes anywhere close to the Nyquist limit for the sensor at any focal length or aperture. That may be the first time I've seen that. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Tests of the 17/2.8 and 14-42mm micro4/3 Zuikos. > > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 02:49:45 2009 Received: (qmail 4854 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 00:49:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 00:49:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DCEE1806B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD8E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4896F34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:49:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DDF34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:49:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19474 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 00:49:37 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 00:49:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CCBA0.7020405@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:49:36 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE5C9A8899347-14C-944@WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com> <2D6F35AA28074C8A8E8DBA720AEFC870@home> In-Reply-To: <2D6F35AA28074C8A8E8DBA720AEFC870@home> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Stereo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 02:49:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ccba9254115683411216 So, how does the 8" viewer work? Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> 1. Wonder what your take on this jobber is: >> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/09072206fujifilmw1.asp#press > > THIS is the hottest thing that has happened in the world of do-it-yourself > stereo since the introduction of the Stereo Realist camera in 1947. > > It is the first TRUE digital stereo camera. > > Up to now, digital stereo photography was done either with one camera (and > shift) or two cameras synchronized with various ways. This camera makes > digital stereo easier and more convenient, and it has the potential to > create a new wave of do-it-yourself stereo photography (just like the Stereo > Realist did in the 1950s). > > Because of the lack of a simple digital stereo camera (like this), a lot of > stereo photographers (most members of our stereo club, for example) are > still using film cameras. But things might change soon. What is still > missing is a good way to view (and project) stereo pictures, equivalent in > quality and simplicity to a stereo slide viewer. But there are developments > in this area too. > > So, this is very important and every stereo enthusiast is (or should be) > watching the developments with great interest. > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 03:17:01 2009 Received: (qmail 14849 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 01:16:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 01:16:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE279E182C7 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2C9E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8402819FF85 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C621919FF8A for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:16:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.186]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail05.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n781Glvt010041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:48 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:31 +1000 Message-ID: <001901ca17c5$ddad2ab0$99078010$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoXo35TeKKWOyM9R26W2YRF+uuKFwAIgusw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 03:17:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cd20d315292013633067 Yeah, looks like the sort of hacking I did when at University. Probably used for some sort of remote data collection application. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@zone-10.com] > Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 7:10 AM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? > > I'm intruiged. It is a mystery what/where/why/how/who of the wiring > job, > but considering that it was university fodder, who knows what mysteries > lie > beyond the eb*y pictures. > > Please, will somebody buy it? > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 03:20:20 2009 Received: (qmail 4313 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 01:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 01:20:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97B6E18069 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A367AE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A68D19FF87 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:20:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBE819FF85 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5662 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 01:20:12 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 01:20:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CD2CC.9000805@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:20:12 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> <001901ca17c5$ddad2ab0$99078010$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <001901ca17c5$ddad2ab0$99078010$@com.au> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 03:20:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cd2d487696789618724 Probably fastened to a tree waiting to take a shot of the Alaskan sasquatch. :-) Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > Yeah, looks like the sort of hacking I did when at University. > > Probably used for some sort of remote data collection application. > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@zone-10.com] >> Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 7:10 AM >> To: Olympus Camera Discussion >> Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? >> >> I'm intruiged. It is a mystery what/where/why/how/who of the wiring >> job, >> but considering that it was university fodder, who knows what mysteries >> lie >> beyond the eb*y pictures. >> >> Please, will somebody buy it? >> >> AG >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 03:28:38 2009 Received: (qmail 1236 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 01:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 01:28:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6026E18174 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22D1E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97CD34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186EB34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:28:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n781SU9j021581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:28:31 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> In-Reply-To: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:28:14 +1000 Message-ID: <001a01ca17c7$8089dd90$819d98b0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoXpk5ZnSIDu7QuR9yWHtaNAFsBlAAH+p8g Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 03:28:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cd4c6129955683411216 Olaf, Do you have access to a lathe and somebody who knows how to use it ? Really quite a simple operation. Buy yourself a 49->72mm step up ring, it probably won't screw onto your 18mm because it needs to screw down into a groove and the inside diameter of the stepping ring is too small. Use the lathe to bore out the inside diameter until it fits into the 18mm's groove. The stepping ring won't be as strong as when it started but probably no worse than the Oly part. Depending on the depth of the stepping ring you may need to extend the 72mm part so that mounted filters don't touch the front element. You can do this by getting a cheap 72mm filter and removing the glass and mounting this on the step up ring. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Olaf Iwert [mailto:oiwert@eso.org] > Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 7:30 AM > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Subject: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System > > Dear all, > > Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up > ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? > > If noone has a hardware part, it would be very instructive to get a > drawing of this part in order to verify how one could build one..... > > The second Iwert on the list > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 03:31:22 2009 Received: (qmail 15919 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 01:31:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 01:31:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6356E18236 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCB2E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E501434AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FBC34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n781VDR3027420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:31:14 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:30:57 +1000 Message-ID: <001b01ca17c7$e1df02a0$a59d07e0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoXs1XTiBHPh4I8QUSJhf38tqgzzAAFGyxA Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 03:31:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cd56a252091342116753 I have posted on this subject before. Made one to prove the concept. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile [mailto:fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy] > Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 9:04 AM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System > > Indeed, but this is the first one in which the idea of building one has > been raised ... > > Fernando. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 03:45:11 2009 Received: (qmail 16122 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 01:45:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 01:45:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C68EDC038 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA846E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D9734AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23EE34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n781ivo0017078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:44:58 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:44:41 +1000 Message-ID: <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoXudE4x3DlahT4S1C1C8923+M6ZAADuKUA Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 03:45:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cd8a7106991612113968 While the 18/3.5 is a brilliant optical design (especially considering when it was released), I think the mechanical design is pathetic. The hood/filter ring should have been part of the lens body not a fiddly screw on accessory which had to be purchased separately. I just can't think of any situation when I have needed to use this lens where the hood/filter ring had to be removed. Also the slip on lens cap (same as for the 16mm fisheye) is also cheap, crappy design and manufacture. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Moose [mailto:olymoose@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 9:50 AM > To: Olympus Camera Discussion > Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System > > BTW, a model LC-72 "E-Accessory" lens cap works fine on the 18/3.5 > hood/step-up ring. Looks much better than the generic mine came came > with. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 03:56:38 2009 Received: (qmail 32703 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 01:56:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 01:56:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14125E180CA for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A289AE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFF119FFDE for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000BB19FFD9 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:56:28 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 23 days 06:20:46 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 18:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-24-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.24.191]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n781uJfR018816 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:56:21 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7CDB4B.1060304@adinet.com.uy> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:56:27 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A7C56C0.8040005@verizon.net> <4A7CC4B0.5030508@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: <4A7CC4B0.5030508@adinet.com.uy> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Maitani eulogy X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 03:56:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cdb56142101357919056 Very interesting .... small world. Fernando. Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Now, ... I will find out who is "Mr. Julio F. from Uruguay wrote in > Nelsonfoto.com". > > We're a small population here, and an Olympus user should be quickly > recognized by another ... > > :-) > > Fernando. > > John Hermanson wrote: > >> http://zuikography.com/?p=108 >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 04:57:39 2009 Received: (qmail 8600 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 02:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 02:57:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076DAE18228 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32C9E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9607D34AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749A834AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 19:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090808025731H05002ir9pe>; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 02:57:31 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <8CBE5C9A8899347-14C-944@WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com><2D6F35AA28074C8A8E8DBA720AEFC870@home> <4A7CCBA0.7020405@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:57:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Stereo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 04:57:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ce9a375262517112723 > So, how does the 8" viewer work? I believe it is a so-called "autostereoscopic display". You can see stereo without glasses. Like "lenticular postcards", prints made from the Nimslo/Nishika (and other) stereo cameras (with 3 or 4 lenses), or some laptop 3D displays. I have not seen yet. It might be OK as a starting point for the general public, but the depth is limited and dependent on the distance and orientation of your head with respect to the "viewer"/screen/print. The stereo viewing experience is best if each image is sent to the corresponding eye using lenses, or polarizing glasses, or a similar method that complete separates the right and left images. It is possible to extract the two images from this camera so people can use other viewing methods. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 05:20:20 2009 Received: (qmail 26385 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 03:20:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 03:20:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2ACE18065 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1941BE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0501F34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0BF34AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:20:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23611 invoked by uid 502); 8 Aug 2009 03:20:13 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-184-238.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.184.238) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 03:20:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7CEEEA.303@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:20:10 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0908061116u1c6b1a2axc5c29d3cd0258f25@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] The Kodachrome Project - 3 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 05:20:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ceef481061879814018 Ken Norton wrote: > 512 is perfect on so many levels! > I agree. It's the standout. I also quite like 508. And I'd like 506 with the steeple straightened up. I also almost like 526, but it sees to me like Cathy is stuck in a no man's land of DOF, either not OOF enough or not in focus enough. Great subject, composition and light, though. I can see someone with different focal preferences really liking it. The lilies are also nice, but it's a bit too much like a Moose photo shoot, where he sometimes seems to take the same flower picture over and over and over ... Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 05:22:34 2009 Received: (qmail 18031 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 03:22:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 03:22:33 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBBBE18177 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D182E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A13134AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2F734AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:22:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A746F314093 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DBD314091 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A7CEF7B.5030409@interisland.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:22:35 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: [OM] OM4t eats batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 05:22:34 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cef7a93751234514069 My OM4t has been eating batteries. It started while on our recent trip to the Oregon coast. I went through all my spares which I'd had. For a while I thought maybe they were just too old but then I ate through a couple fresh packs bought along the way. The batteries discharge very quickly. Only able to take a few pics before the dreaded locked up shutter. Did I fry something? The batteries didn't appear to be warm when I pulled them right after the lock up. Sure would hate to lose this one as it is my favorite body. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 05:34:58 2009 Received: (qmail 24328 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 03:34:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 03:34:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B39E1817D for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDC2E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6FC34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BAC34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n783Yoq6017820 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d1d.4e7dcd4f (33856) for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:34:49 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:34:49 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 05:34:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cf262225955683411216 The problem of the too fat 49mm ring will remain. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/7/2009 5:56:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: Step-up rings are available from 49 -> 52, 55, 58, 62, 67, 72 (and even 77). It would seem that this could be constructed from 2 or 3 separate rings. This has to have been discussed here 100 times before but I don't recall the outcome. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 05:36:24 2009 Received: (qmail 30542 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 03:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 03:36:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37C7E18039 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6D7E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F7E34AC002 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDE534AC003 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6FC314093 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247FE314091 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A7CF266.6060408@interisland.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:35:02 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 05:36:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7cf2b8174971342116753 I can't envision how a shift lens would do 3D. After all you are just cropping a slightly different area of the same view. No parallax. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 06:37:45 2009 Received: (qmail 1866 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 04:37:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 04:37:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662B4EDC017 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B79E240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F57334AC001 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B932E34AC004 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:37:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp01.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.2]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:61853 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay01.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.41]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MZdgT-0003HA-59 (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:37:34 +0000 Message-Id: <426687DD-C5A0-4D9C-88FF-62FF72A08050@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7CCA5B.9060403@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:37:32 +0200 References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <4A7CB118.7030805@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7CB2D3.1090501@adinet.com.uy> <4A7CB946.6010707@gmail.com> <4A7CBA4F.3090900@gmail.com> <4A7CCA5B.9060403@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Tests of the Oly lenses for the E-P1 added to dpreview. X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 06:37:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d0119291109730998309 From the writeup, both are real dogs. Dpreview of courses uses very diplomatic language, but if the 14-42 is significantly inferior to the regular version of this lens, and if the 17mm provides no advantages over the zoom in terms of image quality, then this is a polite way of saying that these two lenses are simply awful. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:44 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Hmmm. Neither lens comes anywhere close to the Nyquist limit for the > sensor at any focal length or aperture. That may be the first time > I've > seen that. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Moose wrote: >> Tests of the 17/2.8 and 14-42mm micro4/3 Zuikos. >> >> >> Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 06:57:45 2009 Received: (qmail 13557 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 04:57:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 04:57:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C931DE18065 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AEAE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645BF1A0168 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7981A0155 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:57:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC27C314095 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95652314094 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:57:46 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 06:57:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d05c982915683411216 > > Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for comparison ! > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 07:02:12 2009 Received: (qmail 24197 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 05:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 05:02:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D59E1806B for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3137FE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE1C1A0171 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:02:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4295B1A0155 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:02:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1796579fxm.37 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:02:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.147.203 with SMTP id c11mr210533hbb.93.1249707724926; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:02:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:02:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4a1566ed0ca525ac Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 07:02:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d06d4100572013633067 What if you took a Cokin adaptor ring and glued a large step ring to that? The Cokin rings are a bit thin. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 07:04:36 2009 Received: (qmail 20553 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 05:04:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 05:04:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17698EDC023 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953DDE240E0 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB001A0172 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D249D1A0155 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:04:29 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7854QI7002935 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 05:04:28 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:04:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 07:04:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d07648561744846740 Looks like a great spot, Mike. Enjoy it! Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" To: "1" Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent > > >> Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for >> comparison ! >> > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. > > > Mike > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 09:35:39 2009 Received: (qmail 27819 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 07:35:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 07:35:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F11E18069 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB006E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD57734AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305FE34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:35:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 00:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n787ZP1F020873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:35:27 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:35:08 +1000 Message-ID: <001f01ca17fa$c257d780$47078680$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoX5MWumpFtLUISRb6UmNZFuNvbkAAFdrMA Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 09:35:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d2acb314241413256596 Definitely more pleasant than my view (no senoritas even to compensate). ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Lazzari [mailto:watershed@interisland.net] > Sent: Saturday, 8 August 2009 2:58 PM > To: 1 > Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, > front and with full consent > > > > > Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for > comparison ! > > > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. > > > Mike > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 10:36:21 2009 Received: (qmail 9711 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 08:36:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 08:36:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DB8E180B5 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EF3E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480DD34AC003 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:36:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFFF34AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:36:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MZhPQ-0000qA-Jd for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:36:12 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:36:05 +0100 Message-ID: <5F69F31209024C66A5F88A8423E8BDB0@your9ya3hf92n3> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoXplHta/5hKtdlTX+b9b4cikW7rgAXGMkg X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090807-0, 07/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 10:36:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d3905137139752976205 The overall depth from front edge to back is 10mm The 49mm thread is 2mm deep. The 72mm thread is 3.4mm deep The inside diameter of the 49mm threaded portion is 46.5mm The critical dimension is the last one - you can find 49mm step up rings which have walls thin enough to fit the gap between the lens 49mm thread and the front element, but you will have to look hard. Good luck! Piers -----Original Message----- From: Olaf Iwert [mailto:oiwert@eso.org] Sent: 07 August 2009 22:30 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Subject: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System Dear all, Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? If noone has a hardware part, it would be very instructive to get a drawing of this part in order to verify how one could build one..... The second Iwert on the list -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 13:11:04 2009 Received: (qmail 6280 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 11:11:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 11:11:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1114EE1806B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F76E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DFF19E10B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C61619E10C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:10:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (d1956m198d@blueyonder.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.23.170.140] (helo=anti-virus02-07) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1MZjp9-0006qi-4x for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:10:55 +0100 Received: from [80.195.62.110] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1MZjp8-00056e-Ni for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:10:54 +0100 Message-ID: <4A7D5D3B.4030000@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:10:51 +0100 From: Donald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 13:11:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d5d48222273900897491 Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for comparison ! >> > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. > > > Mike > I think I just went off you, Mike... ;-) D. -- I'm a Mac, but I'm happy with my PC. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 13:22:11 2009 Received: (qmail 11389 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 11:22:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 11:22:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85984E18177 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E948CE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DD119E148 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC9719E13E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:22:04 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32088 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 11:22:03 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Paging Dr. Stereo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 13:22:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d5fe3188222517112723 Thanks. Although I had never heard of an "autostereoscopic display" it turns out that there are and have been many of them on the market. Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> So, how does the 8" viewer work? > > I believe it is a so-called "autostereoscopic display". You can see stereo > without glasses. Like "lenticular postcards", prints made from the > Nimslo/Nishika (and other) stereo cameras (with 3 or 4 lenses), or some > laptop 3D displays. > > I have not seen yet. It might be OK as a starting point for the general > public, but the depth is limited and dependent on the distance and > orientation of your head with respect to the "viewer"/screen/print. > > The stereo viewing experience is best if each image is sent to the > corresponding eye using lenses, or polarizing glasses, or a similar method > that complete separates the right and left images. It is possible to > extract the two images from this camera so people can use other viewing > methods. > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 13:28:04 2009 Received: (qmail 22011 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 11:28:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 11:28:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269EAE182CA for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303D8E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FB319E18B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:27:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8739119E15F for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:27:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2814 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 11:27:31 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 13:28:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d6144254155034211378 Wow! I'll have to stop in for lunch some day. Oh, durn! I forgot it's 3,000 miles away. Oh, well. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for comparison ! >> > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. > > > Mike > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 13:43:29 2009 Received: (qmail 24972 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 11:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 11:43:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F33E182B4 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFE8E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D95119E1C8 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:43:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4E919E1BB for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:43:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 04:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13281 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 11:43:21 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090807-0, 08/07/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 13:43:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d64e1318371234514069 I discovered I had stashed Wayne's June 9, 2007 post on this subject which mentions the same 46.5mm dimension and includes a link to the finished product. Maybe he forgot he had it. Also of importance is the note about lack of vignetting - Chuck Norcutt ------------------------------------------------------ A few weeks ago there was some discussion about the Olympus hood/filter adapter for the OM Zuiko 18mm f3.5. I volunteered to bore out a 49-->72mm step-up ring to see if it could be used as a substitute hood/filter adapter. I obtained a cheap (about $US7) step-up ring from www.camerafilters.com and bored the inside of the 49mm threaded section on the lathe from 45.2mm to 46.5mm (same ID as the Oly hood) which fitted perfectly on the 18/3.5 even though the threaded section was 0.5mm longer than the Oly version. As the step-up ring is flat the front element of the 18/3.5 still projects about 1.5 mm from the front of the ring so I added a filter ring from which I had removed the glass. As the filter was a fairly thick the resultant hood is about 2mm deeper than the Oly hood but allowed me to mount a thin Hoya on top of the combination without getting any vignetting. This link takes you to a page which shows a few images of the step-up ring mounted on the 18/3.5: The bottom line is that it seems a substitute hood can be made fairly easily if you can't find/afford the original Oly. ..Wayne -------------------------------------------------------- Piers Hemy wrote: > The overall depth from front edge to back is 10mm > The 49mm thread is 2mm deep. > The 72mm thread is 3.4mm deep > The inside diameter of the 49mm threaded portion is 46.5mm > The critical dimension is the last one - you can find 49mm step up rings > which have walls thin enough to fit the gap between the lens 49mm thread and > the front element, but you will have to look hard. > > Good luck! > > Piers > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Olaf Iwert [mailto:oiwert@eso.org] > Sent: 07 August 2009 22:30 > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Subject: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System > > Dear all, > > Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up ring > for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? > > If noone has a hardware part, it would be very instructive to get a drawing > of this part in order to verify how one could build one..... > > The second Iwert on the list > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 15:33:17 2009 Received: (qmail 21125 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 13:33:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 13:33:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1BEE1806A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8774E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E071C34AC003 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063434AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n78DX6e1013548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:33:07 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <5F69F31209024C66A5F88A8423E8BDB0@your9ya3hf92n3> <4A7D64D9.2060609@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7D64D9.2060609@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:32:48 +1000 Message-ID: <002601ca182c$b997c740$2cc755c0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoYHXUHOrjaUQkMQXGQ9zIuwRAnPgADwZEw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 15:33:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d7e9d222991073733319 > > I discovered I had stashed Wayne's June 9, 2007 post on this subject > which mentions the same 46.5mm dimension and includes a link to the > finished product. Maybe he forgot he had it. Also of importance is > the > note about lack of vignetting - Chuck Norcutt Good onya Chuck, I'd forgotten that I'd actually taken some photographs and made some measurements ! ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 15:55:00 2009 Received: (qmail 20704 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 13:55:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 13:55:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66825E18236 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90889E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E93B34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCD234AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (daniel.sepke@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.147]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 06:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so761577qwa.26 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.29.8 with SMTP id o8mr1961619qac.31.1249739695519; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DSPT60 ([216.174.58.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm6294556qwh.41.2009.08.08.06.54.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Sepke" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> In-Reply-To: <272FFB6ED1854D3AAB7386177C1565D8@daingtanfxkwk9> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4a7d83ae.c5c2f10a.6ade.ffff984d@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoXmM55DqtLSvwpTluaTCqgX/o6kAAlk5Sg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 15:55:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d83b4163032439112457 I suspect the clue is the listing - University of Alaska surplus. The mods are probably all about battery life in extreme cold. Dan S. -----Original Message----- From: Darin [mailto:d.rhein@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:54 PM To: OM List Subject: [OM] What the heck was someone trying to do here? Two OM cameras with 250 Backs and winders, and a bunch of wiring? You know where. 220463638551 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 16:58:18 2009 Received: (qmail 578 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 14:58:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 14:58:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD320E1806A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 07:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9035E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 07:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE62C34AC003 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 07:58:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E2534AC004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so554693fgg.13 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.65.1 with SMTP id n1mr1852433fga.38.1249743490857; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7CB689.9050405@gmail.com> References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> <4A7CB689.9050405@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:58:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2f5e4b0b5d340520 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908080758s29955d6bm335ec076afee0bf5@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 16:58:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d928a221576107113666 Hmm, my emails to him bounced... On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Moose wrote: > John Hermanson wrote: > > Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. I > can't believe that site is still up and taking money! > > > > I sent a little money a few months ago. Long after I'd given up, > batteries arrived. I suspect it's an individual who collects orders > until there are enough to justify a wholesale buy, then distributes them. > > Not appealing, but, at least in my experience, not outright dishonest. I > won't be buying from there again, though. > > Moose > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 17:49:55 2009 Received: (qmail 16086 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 15:49:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 15:49:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B88CE182B5 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 08:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C0E240E0 for ; 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Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:49:44 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:49:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 17:49:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7d9ea3203441744846740 Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand at real estate ;-) http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 18:25:31 2009 Received: (qmail 5743 invoked by uid 0); 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Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090808162523H02001msjre>; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:25:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <1D91E705490A4D1F92256AC2040AC215@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A7CF266.6060408@interisland.net> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:20:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 18:25:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7da6fb41491560218263 >I can't envision how a shift lens would do 3D. After all you are just > cropping a slightly different area of the same view. No parallax. Are you sure? If the lens is moving then you have 3D. If the camera is moving but not the lens, then you don't have 3D (just cropping as you say). I have no experience with shift lenses but lenses mounted on bellows with shift (& tilt) functions (Olympus does not make one) do shift and there is 3D. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 18:26:18 2009 Received: (qmail 11584 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 16:26:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 16:26:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F7BEDC021 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF68E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF6319E8FD for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E687019E8FC for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:25:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090808162524H02001msjte>; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:25:24 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:25:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 18:26:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7da72985924877110844 Why is the 35mm f2.8 Zuiko lens harder to find than the 28mm? I have already bought several 28mm lenses but no 35mm. Does anyone have one to sell (I need a matched pair) at a reasonable price? For me 35mm is the most versatile all-around focal length for stereo photography. George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 18:41:15 2009 Received: (qmail 18393 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 16:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 16:41:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62673EDC036 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B467E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D274419E94F for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:41:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D93419E944 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:41:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAABA461615 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:05:44 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:41:05 +0100 References: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 18:41:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7daaaa301141357919056 Lovely, Mike! Chris On 8 Aug 2009, at 05:57, Mike Lazzari wrote: >> >> Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office >> for comparison ! >> > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 18:48:23 2009 Received: (qmail 4524 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 16:48:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 16:48:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AAEEDC036 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3398EE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176DE19E96F for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:48:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6169319E96D for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:48:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253EC461613 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:12:55 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <06B477E2-FFEE-4F26-B8BF-8575F4FB1B83@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:48:16 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 18:48:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dac5726915683411216 Heh! But I wouldn't trust the local council to remove planning permission at the drop of a hat. I don't know why any foreigner would buy a house in Spain now ... Chris On 8 Aug 2009, at 16:49, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand > at real estate ;-) > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 19:19:21 2009 Received: (qmail 28512 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 17:19:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 17:19:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20170EDC03D for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB80E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4256D34AC005 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1284C34AC004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:19:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 23 days 21:43:31 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-22-238.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.22.238]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n78HJ9Vl014484 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:19:10 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7DB395.3090308@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:19:17 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> <5F69F31209024C66A5F88A8423E8BDB0@your9ya3hf92n3> <4A7D64D9.2060609@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7D64D9.2060609@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 19:19:21 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7db399319591946193717 Fine :-) Due to my OS switch and foreseeable errors, I have posts from this list from November 11 2007 onwards. I'm sure I lost everything from June 2006 to November 2007, and never managed to import the older ones (in OE5 .eml for the Mac) to TB. I should have written this way: "It seems to me that this issue may have been worked out before." Which is in fact the feeling I had, maybe I did read Wayne's post but lost it afterwards. Thank you, Chuck. Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I discovered I had stashed Wayne's June 9, 2007 post on this subject > which mentions the same 46.5mm dimension and includes a link to the > finished product. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 20:16:08 2009 Received: (qmail 3396 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 18:16:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 18:16:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A75E1817E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435F2E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F1819EB3D for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D3E19EB3A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1876182bwz.14 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:16:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.142 with SMTP id e14mr284987hbc.69.1249755360466; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:16:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> References: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:16:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c073d31e251ef31d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 20:16:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dc0e886755683411216 I mistakenly sold my original 35/2.8, and a couple years ago Tom Scales had one last silver-nosed one left which he graciously sold to me. A lens which, along with the 100/2.8, will by my "last-lens standing". I don't know why you are having troubles finding the 35/2.8 at the moment. I think it's cyclical. Every once in a while a particular lens model will dry up--you can't find them anywhere, but then a month or two later they are all over the place. But, half of all Zuiko lenses worldwide are among our list-members, so this query should yield results. BTW, you will definitely want to match series of 35/2.8 lenses. The silvernosed (singlecoated) lenses are different than the later blacknosed (multicoated) variety. Either are excellent lenses, but the optical formula is altered. Not nearly as much as other lenses, but there is a difference. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 20:20:22 2009 Received: (qmail 32240 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC738EDC013 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E994E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0C19EB54 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B1719EB4A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net (fmailhost02.isp.att.net [204.127.217.102]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090808182015H02001mrtae>; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:20:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 20:20:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dc1e6257851342116753 Thanks Ken, > BTW, you will definitely want to match series of 35/2.8 lenses. The > silvernosed (singlecoated) lenses are different than the later blacknosed > (multicoated) variety. Either are excellent lenses, but the optical > formula > is altered. Not nearly as much as other lenses, but there is a > difference. Is the "blacknosed" more desirable since it is multicoated? Does it really make a difference in use? George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 20:24:59 2009 Received: (qmail 26825 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 18:24:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 18:24:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C26EDC044 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909D0E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7893B34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDF834AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl33.gs02.gridserver.com (cl33.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.42]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:62925 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl33.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZqb2-0008GE-Ji for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:24:54 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:25:15 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] 35mm lens? Thread-Index: AcoYVZLw0TfU84RIEd6g9QAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 20:24:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dc2fb9701879814018 Not all black ones are multicoated. Mine's not. The OM lenses that have a letter next to the word Zuiko (F.Zuiko, G.Zuiko, etc.) are not multicoated, except a handful of lens models that also had MC on the front ring. The later black lenses without the letter by Zuiko are all MC even if the lens doesn't say so. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/8/09 2:20 PM, "DrT (George Themelis)" wrote: > Thanks Ken, > >> BTW, you will definitely want to match series of 35/2.8 lenses. The >> silvernosed (singlecoated) lenses are different than the later blacknosed >> (multicoated) variety. Either are excellent lenses, but the optical >> formula >> is altered. Not nearly as much as other lenses, but there is a >> difference. > > Is the "blacknosed" more desirable since it is multicoated? > > Does it really make a difference in use? > > George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 20:27:38 2009 Received: (qmail 25607 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 18:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 18:27:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8DEDC016 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D1FE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D033634AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4045D34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2007907fxm.37 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:27:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.175.146 with SMTP id n18mr255140hbf.16.1249756050812; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:27:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:27:30 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0971519914429824 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 20:27:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dc39a82056107113666 > > Is the "blacknosed" more desirable since it is multicoated? > > Does it really make a difference in use? > In the wide-angle lenses, I generally recommend the blacknosed variety. I have a 24/2.8 which is vastly superior to the silvernosed one I had. It does make a difference with color film. With B&W film, it's either a toss-up or a slight advantage towards the older ones. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 20:38:16 2009 Received: (qmail 27175 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 18:38:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 18:38:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B05DEDC033 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15526E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20BD19EBEC for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:38:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443AE19EBDB for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:38:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2010609fxm.37 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:38:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.10 with SMTP id g10mr247417hbc.20.1249756690011; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:38:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:38:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fbd1dd840b90dc0d Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 20:38:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dc618316941220213263 Chris is correct. There was a short transition time. The X.Zuiko is usually an indicator of earlier series with a nose-job. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 21:37:31 2009 Received: (qmail 1416 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 19:37:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 19:37:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E939DE182B1 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C78E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ED634AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:37:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CC834AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so3146008yxe.22 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.182.4 with SMTP id e4mr5093493ybf.92.1249760245370; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:37:25 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908081237v43cb1dc1p1244613f021c6cb6@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 21:37:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dd3fb45171258626592 On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand > at real estate ;-) > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 We'd call that a fixerupper. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 21:50:29 2009 Received: (qmail 24998 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 19:50:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 19:50:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5097AE18255 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0C8E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9069234AC003 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D731A34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1897318bwz.14 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:50:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.130 with SMTP id 2mr250463hbr.164.1249761022632; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:50:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908081237v43cb1dc1p1244613f021c6cb6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e908c1f0908081237v43cb1dc1p1244613f021c6cb6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:50:22 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95972f8e15cbe0e6 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 21:50:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dd705296164877110844 Joel (Dr. Flood) Wrote: > > We'd call that a fixerupper. > I'm sure one more year like 2008 and you'll be looking for a fixerupper up on a hill too! AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 21:54:07 2009 Received: (qmail 13287 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 19:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 19:54:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E19E18228 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EA4E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64EE34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:54:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE6334AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:54:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (frank@vanlindert.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp-out1.tiscali.nl (smtp-out1.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.176]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 12:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [82.169.187.11] (helo=localhost) by smtp-out1.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MZrzL-0006Zw-7d for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:53:59 +0200 From: Frank van Lindert To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:53:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9e908c1f0908081237v43cb1dc1p1244613f021c6cb6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908081237v43cb1dc1p1244613f021c6cb6@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 5.00/32.1171 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 21:54:07 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7dd7df107521413256596 On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:37:25 -0500, Joel Wilcox wrote: >On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand >> at real estate ;-) >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 > >We'd call that a fixerupper. > >Joel W. In Spain they call this Patrimonio Nacional. Frank. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 22:18:35 2009 Received: (qmail 23838 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 20:18:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 20:18:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97637E18228 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F644E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646B034AC003 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:18:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B14D34AC001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:65185 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MZsN0-0008SI-0H (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:18:26 +0000 Message-Id: <175FDBA7-2A71-45A7-BE29-F13F01678EB9@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <06B477E2-FFEE-4F26-B8BF-8575F4FB1B83@threeshoes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:18:24 +0200 References: <06B477E2-FFEE-4F26-B8BF-8575F4FB1B83@threeshoes.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 22:18:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ddd9b297641136683642 Indeed I wouldn't either. I am happily renting. With this one, I was thinking of making a nice deed (escritura) in Photoshop or Powerpoint or Visio and then selling it to an English retiree. The little detail that I have no idea who owns it is a very minor problem :-) Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > Heh! But I wouldn't trust the local council to remove planning > permission at the drop of a hat. I don't know why any foreigner would > buy a house in Spain now ... > > Chris > > On 8 Aug 2009, at 16:49, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > >> Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand >> at real estate ;-) >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 23:01:02 2009 Received: (qmail 16551 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 21:01:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 21:01:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AE6EDC02C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A4CE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BE634AC003 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:00:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F6E34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:00:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n78L0tq5023478 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:00:55 -0400 Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c8f.4aed047f (37134) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.140]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA028-5c444a7de7801d; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:00:53 -0400 Received: from webmail-db19 (webmail-db19.webmail.aol.com [205.188.105.84]) by smtprly-ma01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA012-5c444a7de7801d; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:00:49 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:00:49 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.216 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com (205.188.105.84) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:00:48 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE68270B27AEE-1F18-2E5E@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> Subject: [OM] Paging Dr. Stereo X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 23:01:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7de78e94899752976205 Thanks Dr. T. I still need to do more reading before attempting first macro stereo image. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sat Aug 8 23:34:00 2009 Received: (qmail 23127 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 21:33:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 21:33:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960D7EDC011 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EDAE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13CA34AC004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8689B34AC002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E366F4618BA for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:58:31 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <175FDBA7-2A71-45A7-BE29-F13F01678EB9@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:33:51 +0100 References: <06B477E2-FFEE-4F26-B8BF-8575F4FB1B83@threeshoes.net> <175FDBA7-2A71-45A7-BE29-F13F01678EB9@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sat Aug 8 23:34:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7def48219379752976205 "-) There are some gullible people around ... Chris On 8 Aug 2009, at 21:18, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Indeed I wouldn't either. I am happily renting. With this one, I was > thinking of making a nice deed (escritura) in Photoshop or Powerpoint > or Visio and then selling it to an English retiree. The little detail > that I have no idea who owns it is a very minor problem :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 01:19:31 2009 Received: (qmail 19628 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 23:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 23:19:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F448EDC03C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FA6E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CA43628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:19:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0128A3618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:19:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7967 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 23:19:21 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 01:19:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e0803266433900897491 Ouch! Why did this happen? Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand > at real estate ;-) > > http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 01:24:30 2009 Received: (qmail 5947 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 23:24:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 23:24:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA85EE1822C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94630E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BA73628002 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D8C3618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n78NOKM9013038 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c31.5f306455 (39329) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:24:18 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:24:57 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 01:24:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e092e292911612113968 In a message dated 8/8/2009 1:16:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: BTW, you will definitely want to match series of 35/2.8 lenses. The silvernosed (singlecoated) lenses are different than the later blacknosed (multicoated) variety. Either are excellent lenses, but the optical formula is altered. Not nearly as much as other lenses, but there is a difference. Tell the new guy to "man up" and buy both the silver nose and the black nose. Although I don't think he needs any enabling, it never hurts. Bill "Enabled and Enabler" Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 01:27:52 2009 Received: (qmail 18845 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 23:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 23:27:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB012E180CD for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2DDE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0AE19F97C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:27:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8670919F973 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n78NRjU2022378 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:27:45 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bb9.4c595da7 (39329) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:27:39 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:28:18 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 01:27:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e09f8184905368819438 Faded glory! 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Central Daylight Time, photo@frozenlight.eu writes: Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand at real estate ;-) http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 01:42:51 2009 Received: (qmail 19872 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 23:42:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 23:42:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA64E181B1 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B791BE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980F619F9F0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1344F19F9DA for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21245 invoked by uid 502); 8 Aug 2009 23:42:43 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-179-142.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.179.142) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 23:42:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:42:35 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 01:42:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e0d7b261502517112723 Ken Norton wrote: > Chris is correct. There was a short transition time. The X.Zuiko is usually an indicator of earlier series with a nose-job. > I think Zuikoholics here and elsewhere have confused two entirely separate events that happened to overlap in time. The nose ring change from x.ZUIKO to plain Zuiko, without the prefix letter, was a specific indication of an engineering change to multicoating. The change from silver nose to black nose was a cosmetic design change, unrelated to what was inside the lens. Can't prove it, but that's what I've concluded from the endless info on this point that I've encountered. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 01:54:20 2009 Received: (qmail 8632 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 23:54:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 23:54:20 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603ABEDC01C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8008E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AA719FA0C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7D719F9F0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:54:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so1940585bwz.14 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:54:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.3 with SMTP id b3mr258477hbc.114.1249775654092; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:54:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> References: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:54:13 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6d6d60b01882b65c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 01:54:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e102c19161234514069 Moose, thus grunted: > > The change from silver nose to black nose was a cosmetic design change, > unrelated to what was inside the lens. > So true. I just wish that there was a series of silvernosed lenses with multi-coating. AG-Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 01:59:40 2009 Received: (qmail 16451 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2009 23:59:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 8 Aug 2009 23:59:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91FDEDC040 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F79E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD1C3618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13A53618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:59:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1051 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 2009 23:59:32 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2009 23:59:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E1163.9060000@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:59:31 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 01:59:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e116c276841136683642 If you look at Gary Reese's lens tests for the 35/2.8 look first at the single coated and multicoated tests done on the OM-1. If you read the fine print on his test conditions he notes that, unless done in a paired comparison test, differences between two tests are only considered to be significant if the ratings are at least a full letter grade apart. The only conditions where that occurs on resolution is center resolution at f/2.8 and f/4. One can also find several points where at least one full grade difference can be found in the OM-2s and OM4T tests as well. But resolution is not the only measure. The lenses do differ somewhat in contrast, vignetting and distortion. What's hard to tell is if the variations to be seen between single and multi-coated lenses here are any larger than sample to sample variations of the same type of lens. But since we do know there are design differences between single and multicoated I'd keep them of the same type without worrying too much about which type. Chuck Norcutt DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Thanks Ken, > >> BTW, you will definitely want to match series of 35/2.8 lenses. The >> silvernosed (singlecoated) lenses are different than the later blacknosed >> (multicoated) variety. Either are excellent lenses, but the optical >> formula >> is altered. Not nearly as much as other lenses, but there is a >> difference. > > Is the "blacknosed" more desirable since it is multicoated? > > Does it really make a difference in use? > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 02:17:50 2009 Received: (qmail 15463 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 00:17:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 00:17:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48759E1822B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE5EE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA07719FA75 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812AD19FA71 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n790Hegm007601 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:17:40 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c90.49b79f0c (39329) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:17:37 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:18:16 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 02:17:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e15ae44176789618724 That should get a few folks reading this posting. Why will my e-3 Raw images not open is CS 2. Message says they are the wrong kind of images. Heck, everybody had most of their clothes on. Does CS 2 just not read e-3 files. Using an older computer while my newer one gets fixed. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 02:19:48 2009 Received: (qmail 26021 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 00:19:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 00:19:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5881E18247 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673FCE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5854719FA7C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19C819FA79 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13344 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 00:19:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 00:19:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:19:39 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 02:19:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e1624137251234514069 We once conducted a survey amongst ourselves of all our lenses in an attempt to define what was multicoated and what was not by serial number and other identifying characteristics. Here are the results for 35/2.8 Focal Aperture S/N Chrome/ Coating MarkedMC? Lens Name Length Black -------- ---- ------ ------ ------- --------- --------- * 35 2.8 102000 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC 35 2.8 129700 Chrome SC No 35 2.8 141114 Chrome SC No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 145960 Chrome SC No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 149151 Chrome No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 152700 Chrome SC No G. Zuiko * 35 2.8 173122 Black MC No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 177594 Black SC No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 182901 Black SC No 35 2.8 190492 Black SC No 35 2.8 213828 Black SC No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 230319 Black SC No X. Zuiko 35 2.8 246000 Black MC No G. Zuiko 35 2.8 251229 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC 35 2.8 252042 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC 35 2.8 260800 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC * 35 2.8 277800 Black SC No Zuiko Note that there are some apparent outliers here which I have marked with an asterisk. 102000 is probably too early to be MC but the lens is clearly marked MC. 173122 doesn't seem to fit its surroundings and 277800 should certainly be multicoated at that high serial number. The rendered judgments could be wrong, or repairs might have changed serial numbers, lens barrel color or name ring markings. Nevertheless, one can probably conclude that (barring changed parts during repairs) 35/2.8s with serial numbers of 251229 or higher are most probably multicoated even if it doesn't say "MC". I just noticed that my own 136904 didn't make it to this list for some reason. It's not MC. Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > Not all black ones are multicoated. Mine's not. The OM lenses that have a > letter next to the word Zuiko (F.Zuiko, G.Zuiko, etc.) are not multicoated, > except a handful of lens models that also had MC on the front ring. The > later black lenses without the letter by Zuiko are all MC even if the lens > doesn't say so. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 02:22:18 2009 Received: (qmail 4021 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 00:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 00:22:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C49EE180CA for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE0BE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C6619FA75 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0AF19FA69 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14929 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 00:22:10 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 02:22:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e16ba203861357919056 Whenever I see what I consider a useful mail tidbit about a particular lens or body I file it as a text file in an appropriate folder. Problem is, I forget to look there. :-) Chuck Norcutt Fernando Gonzalez Gentile wrote: > Fine :-) > Due to my OS switch and foreseeable errors, I have posts from this list > from November 11 2007 onwards. > I'm sure I lost everything from June 2006 to November 2007, and never > managed to import the older ones (in OE5 .eml for the Mac) to TB. > > I should have written this way: "It seems to me that this issue may have > been worked out before." > Which is in fact the feeling I had, maybe I did read Wayne's post but > lost it afterwards. > > Thank you, Chuck. > > Fernando. > > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> I discovered I had stashed Wayne's June 9, 2007 post on this subject >> which mentions the same 46.5mm dimension and includes a link to the >> finished product. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 02:37:15 2009 Received: (qmail 19449 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 00:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 00:37:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B04E1822B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC29E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBFC3618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:37:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930FC3618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:37:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23628 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 00:37:07 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 00:37:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E1A33.8060004@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:37:07 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 02:37:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e1a3b307951612113968 The release date of CS2 was April 2005. CS3 was released in April 2007. CS4 was released in October 2008. The E3 was announced in October 2007 and not delivered until November 2007. That was after CS3 was released but almost a year before CS4. So Adobe obviously included E3 compatibility in a post-release upgrade to ACR in CS3. I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think they don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You just haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) Chuck Norcutt NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > That should get a few folks reading this posting. > > Why will my e-3 Raw images not open is CS 2. Message says they are the > wrong kind of images. Heck, everybody had most of their clothes on. Does CS > 2 just not read e-3 files. > > Using an older computer while my newer one gets fixed. > > Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 03:20:50 2009 Received: (qmail 32495 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 01:20:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 01:20:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E33EDC040 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98856E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865193618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06F33618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.69]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 61581 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2009 01:20:41 -0000 Message-ID: <236482.60207.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gMvPF8IVM1mGrn9fwWLBgGZ96zQLHQr9.hIaNLagadT5h7eZ7HWZvvEV73FIvf7.lIFiD0W_RVviod1cABQE3wNvx8D6FFZmnFCb6iS7YRd1VWv6QMXeOttYOvzU24OfcFNiwXloKFgq44rw7up7D5RoRoEEG8UVxCyWyzXIrwxlPe9YWoISWKzjxbqst5rnFf.oJl8OOVP7VhRhHMtApgJpdbc2xWDW1xXZDg.DJtJgYjBt7Jy4f7EzKa68Z66jRKk_Px1AZW1IOONl6y2Ev0TTHXalVG9HLY3RatN.1p4OpXcKUFMwneqggyiurA3mTIMgsvD5N7rCoj4.eroWBzS7ZV_dXTPBdN5XJnXlsRWVngQdpg-- Received: from [71.186.243.50] by web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:20:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 18:20:41 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 03:20:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e247295452013633067 The raw converter probably does not support E-3 Raw. I have had this issue = with a current Canyon model and older PS versions. = --- On Sat, 8/8/09, NSURIT@aol.com wrote: > From: NSURIT@aol.com > Subject: [OM] Why this is the way it be? > To: olympus@thomasclausen.net > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 8:18 PM > That should get a few folks reading > this posting. > = > Why will my e-3 Raw images not open is CS 2.=A0 Message > says they are=A0 the = > wrong kind of images.=A0 Heck, everybody had most of > their clothes=A0 on.=A0 Does CS = > 2 just not read e-3 files.=A0 = > = > Using an older computer while my newer one gets fixed. > = > Bill Barber > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 04:00:14 2009 Received: (qmail 28004 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 02:00:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 02:00:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE38E18255 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7940AE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5831B19FC3B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:00:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27BB19FC2B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:00:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n79200Dc020298 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c98.536e295e (39329) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:00:37 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 04:00:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e2dae138376107113666 In a message dated 8/8/2009 7:37:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com writes: I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think they don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You just haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) I figured that must be the problem. I actually have paid the freight for CS 3 (but not 4) however I have it on my main computer and on my main laptop. Unfortunately owning a copy doesn't give you license to put it on every computer you own. If fact if loaded on this one it would be pretty darn full. Hopefully the main laptop will be back soon. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 04:14:20 2009 Received: (qmail 16992 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 02:14:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 02:14:19 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B068E181AC for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BF5E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF223618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:14:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90093618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:14:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n792E5q1027598 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:14:05 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d0a.545d7e5a (39329) for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:14:01 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:14:40 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Are you missing a condenseer from an enlarger I sent your way? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 04:14:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e30fc287681413256596 In the past year and a half or so I sent a Phillips enlarger to live with someone on either this list or another and sent it without the bottom condenser. You had your sister pick it up from my house in Sugar Land, TX. Fill in the details and I will send it to you. Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 04:22:50 2009 Received: (qmail 15990 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 02:22:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 02:22:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DC1EF4032 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189FFE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0358A3628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659F53618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (om-list@jkeller.com whitelisted) Received: from server272.com (server272.com [64.14.68.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17855 invoked by uid 503); 9 Aug 2009 02:22:42 -0000 Received: from c-24-23-193-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (HELO JeffKeller435) (om-list@24.23.193.195) by server272.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 02:22:42 -0000 From: "Jeff Keller" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:22:41 -0700 Message-ID: <004901ca1898$46146dc0$d23d4940$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoYgfHLjLRR/4GQT7yLsO8llx3FrwAFLQ/Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 04:22:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e32fa281711612113968 If the lack of a letter preceding ZUIKO implies the lens is multicoated then all of the fisheye lenses, all of the shift lenses, and almost all of the macro lenses are multicoated (I've seen one manual version F.ZUIKO MACRO 1:4 f=80mm on ebay). For the "standard" lenses I suspect you are right Moose. http://www.jkeller.com/zuiko-ser-nos.htm Jeff Keller -----Original Message----- From: Moose [mailto:olymoose@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? I think Zuikoholics here and elsewhere have confused two entirely separate events that happened to overlap in time. The nose ring change from x.ZUIKO to plain Zuiko, without the prefix letter, was a specific indication of an engineering change to multicoating. The change from silver nose to black nose was a cosmetic design change, unrelated to what was inside the lens. Can't prove it, but that's what I've concluded from the endless info on this point that I've encountered. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:03:35 2009 Received: (qmail 19645 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:03:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:03:34 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9230CE1807A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B57DE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AC119FD73 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C02F19FD70 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:03:29 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f189.google.com (mail-yw0-f189.google.com [209.85.211.189]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh27 with SMTP id 27so3273514ywh.26 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:03:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.215.10 with SMTP id n10mr5427646ybg.233.1249787007783; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:03:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:03:27 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 712ce564971f9225 Message-ID: <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:03:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e3c87206501879814018 Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? Thanks for any advice. --- Michael 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the > Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member who is > willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with > price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, > pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one for > Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. > > By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer > Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information as > above if you'll sell it to me. > > > Thank you very much!!!! > > > --- > Michael > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:30:49 2009 Received: (qmail 2698 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:30:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE97E182AE for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9BBE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABF03618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BAF3618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:30:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl40.gs02.gridserver.com (cl40.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.49]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:51451 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl40.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZz7J-0004gD-CJ for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:30:41 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:31:09 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color Thread-Index: AcoYodXYFEusYISVEd62BQAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:30:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e42e9136501950411718 They have long had the worst reputation of any mail order camera store in the USA. Bait and switch, taking your money and never sending goods, rude salespeople, etc. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/8/09 11:03 PM, "Michael Wong" wrote: > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > Thanks for any advice. > > > --- > Michael > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member who is >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one for >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. >> >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information as >> above if you'll sell it to me. >> >> >> Thank you very much!!!! >> >> >> --- >> Michael >> >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:36:56 2009 Received: (qmail 19931 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:36:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:36:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEB1E1806A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2371E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCC519FDD6 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:36:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7948019DC0C for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:36:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15227 invoked by uid 502); 9 Aug 2009 03:36:48 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 03:36:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E444A.5040805@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:36:42 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> <004901ca1898$46146dc0$d23d4940$@com> In-Reply-To: <004901ca1898$46146dc0$d23d4940$@com> Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:36:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e4458139311612113968 Jeff Keller wrote: > If the lack of a letter preceding ZUIKO implies the lens is multicoated then all of the fisheye lenses, all of the shift lenses, and almost all of the macro lenses are multicoated (I've seen one manual version F.ZUIKO MACRO 1:4 f=80mm on ebay). For the "standard" lenses I suspect you are right Moose. > > http://www.jkeller.com/zuiko-ser-nos.htm > Yes, occasionally, I forget one must qualify everything here. :-) I was only talking about "normal" lenses. The eSIF says "Fisheye lenses, Shift lenses, Zoom lenses and Macro lenses never carried the preceding characters.", which makes your 80/4 an apparent oddity Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:40:46 2009 Received: (qmail 5790 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:40:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9784AEDC034 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC16E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BB319FDE0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:40:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D9319FDD6 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:40:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (lostkase@bellsouth.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpd220 (adsl-241-32-162.sdf.bellsouth.net[74.241.32.162]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20090809034039H0500sa4fne>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:40:40 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.241.32.162] Message-ID: From: "Bob Docherty" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:39:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:40:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e453e110681234514069 Please see the following run! don't walk away! http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Cambridge_Camera ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wong" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > Thanks for any advice. > > > --- > Michael > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member who >> is >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one >> for >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. >> >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information >> as >> above if you'll sell it to me. >> >> >> Thank you very much!!!! >> >> >> --- >> Michael >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 06:10:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:42:29 2009 Received: (qmail 6375 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:42:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9CEEDC02E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755CAE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669C519FDE2 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:42:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7C519FDE0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:42:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (lostkase@bellsouth.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [207.115.11.54]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpd220 (adsl-241-32-162.sdf.bellsouth.net[74.241.32.162]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with SMTP id <20090809034223H04005nkmse>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:42:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.241.32.162] Message-ID: <13AFCC6E8ED84EE8B055E8C5D3AA8111@hpd220> From: "Bob Docherty" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:41:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:42:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e45a5125741234514069 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wong" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > Thanks for any advice. > > > --- > Michael > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member who >> is >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one >> for >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. >> >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information >> as >> above if you'll sell it to me. >> >> >> Thank you very much!!!! >> >> >> --- >> Michael >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 06:10:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:46:02 2009 Received: (qmail 25137 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:46:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:46:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14581EDC014 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB15E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EAB3628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:45:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19E53618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:45:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20090809034557H0600kd3ihe>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:45:57 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com><60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:45:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:46:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e467a80681136683642 > Please see the following run! don't walk away! > http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Cambridge_Camera I love this review: "I have an idea. Take $100 and flush it down the toilet. That is all you will get from this "company". " George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:48:58 2009 Received: (qmail 30554 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:48:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:48:57 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4B2EF4010 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF75E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9E63628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:48:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4773618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:48:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25420 invoked by uid 502); 9 Aug 2009 03:48:52 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 03:48:52 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:48:49 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:48:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e472a48484877110844 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > We once conducted a survey amongst ourselves of all our lenses in an attempt to define what was multicoated and what was not by serial number and other identifying characteristics. Here are the results for 35/2.8 > > Focal Aperture S/N Chrome/ Coating MarkedMC? Lens Name > Length Black > -------- ---- ------ ------ ------- --------- --------- > * 35 2.8 102000 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC > 35 2.8 129700 Chrome SC No > 35 2.8 141114 Chrome SC No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 145960 Chrome SC No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 149151 Chrome No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 152700 Chrome SC No G. Zuiko > * 35 2.8 173122 Black MC No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 177594 Black SC No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 182901 Black SC No > 35 2.8 190492 Black SC No > 35 2.8 213828 Black SC No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 230319 Black SC No X. Zuiko > 35 2.8 246000 Black MC No G. Zuiko > 35 2.8 251229 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC > 35 2.8 252042 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC > 35 2.8 260800 Black MC Yes Zuiko MC > * 35 2.8 277800 Black SC No Zuiko > > Note that there are some apparent outliers here which I have marked with > an asterisk. 102000 is probably too early to be MC but the lens is clearly marked MC. Almost certainly a mis-reporting of some sort. There are some others in the overall list. > 173122 doesn't seem to fit its surroundings and > If I recall correctly, those were the days of peering deep into the lens looking at reflection colors. Wasn't the "MC" column to be a judgment based on observation of the coating themselves? Others, and I to a limited extent, have noticed that the coatings changed character with later production within both SC & MC. This may have been a late version of mostly single coating with a different formula and/or a multiple coating or two that fooled the eye. > 277800 should certainly be multicoated at that high serial number. Looks like a misunderstanding of the naming conventions on the part of the one reporting. As the eSIF says and msot of us have observed, "Once multicoating was so self-evident, that all lenses were produced multicoated, the MC addition was also dropped and the lenses only contained the word ZUIKO." Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 05:53:35 2009 Received: (qmail 5500 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 03:53:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 03:53:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78378E1817E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C547E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D96B19FE05 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7174519FDE0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:53:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29118 invoked by uid 502); 9 Aug 2009 03:53:29 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 03:53:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E4836.10006@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:53:26 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7D05CA.9020804@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 04/08/2009: a pretty se?orita, from the, front and with full consent X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 05:53:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e483f324659752976205 Mike Lazzari wrote: >> Very true, I should post an image from the verandah of my office for comparison ! >> >> > Not exactly a veranda but this my lunch bench. > > Clearly, one should visit Mike in Summer and Nathan in Winter. And the NorCal/Oregon coast in spring, New England in Fall. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:11:05 2009 Received: (qmail 19793 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:11:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B53FE1817A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED989E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D0D19FE4D for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4CF19FE43 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:56 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16189 invoked by uid 502); 9 Aug 2009 04:10:54 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 04:10:54 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:10:50 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:11:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e4c5979161076813867 Wayne Harridge wrote: > While the 18/3.5 is a brilliant optical design (especially considering when it was released), I think the mechanical design is pathetic. I suppose the mechanical design is a part of the original Maitani vision of a small, light system. Every other brand of super-wide at the time was a huge, heavy monster. I've got a case for a Nikon 18/3.5; the Zuiko, even with hood, just rattles around loose in it, taking up maybe 2/3 the space. > The hood/filter ring should have been part of the lens body not a fiddly screw on accessory which had to be purchased separately. I just can't think of any situation when I have needed to use this lens where the hood/filter ring had to be removed. Exactly. From my perspective, having bought one with hood, generic 72mm cap (Since replaced with one that says "Olympus") and a nice, generic case that fits that combo perfectly, it's not an issue. I simply treat it as though the hood were permanently attached. > Also the slip on lens cap (same as for the 16mm fisheye)is also cheap, crappy design and manufacture. > I only keep mine in case I ever decide to sell the lens. Never have used it. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:18:53 2009 Received: (qmail 14251 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:18:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:18:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7033DE1817D for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DF7E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C494819FE6E for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:18:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4142A19FE6B for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:18:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22344 invoked by uid 502); 9 Aug 2009 04:18:46 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 04:18:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7E4E23.7040303@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:18:43 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7BB333.7020503@gmail.com> <9e908c1f0908070648l3f12be33w4ed56ed0a675ca92@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e908c1f0908070648l3f12be33w4ed56ed0a675ca92@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:18:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e4e2d132632439112457 Joel Wilcox wrote: > ... Another nuance: the MR-9 adapters used to specify a 357, which was just perfect for us, since we all had them for our other bodies. The most recent versions specify a 386, which is a bit of a bummer. I don't know why the manufacturer changed this -- perhaps it was the form factor again, though they could have gotten that from an SR44. > No, the 386 is the same diameter as the old 357, et.al., but thinner. The change is to accommodate a new mechanical design using a different diode form factor. > Having said all that I'm guess a 357 probably works OK with the current batch of MR-9s. I must have been one of the first to buy the new MR9s from John. He included 357s with them. I noticed that the battery cap wouldn't screw quite all the way down. The meter worked, but something wasn't quite right. I let John know about the change. Seems CRIS made the change, with battery requirement duly noted in small print on the package, without giving resellers a heads up. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:19:42 2009 Received: (qmail 14708 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:19:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:19:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4935E1806A for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60121E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3293618007 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:19:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFCC3618006 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl26.gs02.gridserver.com (cl26.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:52436 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl26.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MZzs8-0001lI-AG for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:19:05 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:19:32 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] 35mm lens? Thread-Index: AcoYqJgq1oYGJYSbEd6pcAAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:19:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e4e5e45299752976205 My 85/2 is Multicoated, its one of them that is black nose, marked MC. I got to handle a newer one that Is one of the ones where the MC designation was dropped and the front ring just says japan, so that would have been a multicoated one too. The coatings were totally different in color, with the newer lens having a deep purple color to the coatings. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/8/09 11:48 PM, "Moose" wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > If I recall correctly, those were the days of peering deep into the lens > looking at reflection colors. Wasn't the "MC" column to be a judgment > based on observation of the coating themselves? Others, and I to a > limited extent, have noticed that the coatings changed character with > later production within both SC & MC. This may have been a late version > of mostly single coating with a different formula and/or a multiple > coating or two that fooled the eye. > > > Looks like a misunderstanding of the naming conventions on the part of > the one reporting. As the eSIF says and msot of us have observed, "Once > multicoating was so self-evident, that all lenses were produced > multicoated, the MC addition was also dropped and the lenses only > contained the word ZUIKO." > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:34:51 2009 Received: (qmail 24245 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:34:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:34:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98CBE18063 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F26BE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E40C3628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:34:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92F13618006 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:34:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:65213 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Ma07E-0005s9-Ku (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:34:41 +0000 Message-Id: <91A63F04-A3D3-4079-A7DF-B0BD19F49D70@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7E07F7.8010704@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:34:39 +0200 References: <4A7E07F7.8010704@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:34:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e51eb301835034211378 You see lots abandon farmhouses in the countryside here, but this was clearly something bigger. No idea of the story behind it. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Ouch! Why did this happen? > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand >> at real estate ;-) >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:40:39 2009 Received: (qmail 21894 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:40:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:40:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38186E18236 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D8FE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C8919FEB1 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:40:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06F119FEAD for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:40:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jfwilcox@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f189.google.com (mail-yw0-f189.google.com [209.85.211.189]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh27 with SMTP id 27so3303654ywh.26 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:40:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.38.3 with SMTP id q3mr5543776ybj.230.1249792832866; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:40:32 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908082140j1766a90esde5141f318503c24@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] How the day wound up X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:40:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e5347309411234514069 I spent the last hours of good light today, from about 4 PM to 8, riding hither and yon on the trusty motorrad and shooting about 25 frames of Kodachrome 25. Rode about 100 miles and only briefly left the county. I generally followed an ellipse with the farthest point about 25 miles from home, but there were three or four excursions from the main route to check light, subjects, and shoot if I could. After waxing eloquent the other day about the virtues of auto mode on the OM-4, I think I'm going to keep using multispot but switch to manual mode as long as I am shooting this slow slow film handheld. I'm going to take the reciprocal of the lens length, set that for my shutter speed, do my spot readings and then just take whatever aperture I get. It's really a challenge to shoot ASA 25 especially as the light goes. I felt like Galen Rowell shooting the sunset tonight as I ran around looking for something on which to brace the camera. But these are good problems to have. It was really a fun evening. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:48:05 2009 Received: (qmail 13852 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:48:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:48:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6970DE18174 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728A0E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C433618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:48:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D043618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:47:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n794lvst015619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:47:58 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:47:38 +1000 Message-ID: <000001ca18ac$85f555d0$91e00170$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoYg40RP7iG8yP6RpWLwJEbm+CpUwAKM0Wg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:48:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e5505248395034211378 > > So true. I just wish that there was a series of silvernosed lenses > with > multi-coating. > The original fast wides were silvernosed & MC, e.g. 24/2, 28/2, 35/2. ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 06:49:50 2009 Received: (qmail 8438 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 04:49:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 04:49:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AFCE18068 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BAEE240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B32419FEC1 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:49:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382EB19FE65 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:49:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail108c26.carrierzone.com (mail108c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.118]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:49:45 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail108c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n794ng3G004973 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:49:43 GMT Message-ID: <71FC07C60DF94B6DA5B7B967A6E6F00A@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <9e908c1f0908082140j1766a90esde5141f318503c24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:49:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] How the day wound up X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 06:49:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e556e127641234514069 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Wilcox" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:40 PM Subject: [OM] How the day wound up It's really a challenge to shoot ASA 25 especially as > the light goes. I felt like Galen Rowell shooting the sunset tonight > as I ran around looking for something on which to brace the camera. > > Joel W. > -- Joel, When I started shooting Kodachrome in the early 50s, it was rated ASA 10, if I recall correctly. Try that with a 50/3.5 lens. :-) Jim Nichols -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 07:02:48 2009 Received: (qmail 24089 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 05:02:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 05:02:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C13E181B1 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860E9E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663A83628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:02:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92513618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heliar (d220-238-218-205.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.238.218.205]) (authenticated sender wayneharridge) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7952dji014652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:02:41 +1000 From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:02:20 +1000 Message-ID: <000101ca18ae$94171fc0$bc455f40$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoYp2jHScUT7M3vS/GN3DpqQOXnUgABmOkg Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 07:02:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e5878189051342116753 > > I only keep mine in case I ever decide to sell the lens. Never have > used it. > Yeah, I kept mine too - had to put a few bits of masking tape inside so that it wouldn't slip off (this was when the lens was brand new before the hood arrived !). The cap is now used on the 16mm fisheye, which came without one, no wonder it's front element was so badly chipped when I bought it used. ...Wayne -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 07:25:44 2009 Received: (qmail 15427 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 05:25:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 05:25:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C8CE18247 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED03E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BFC3628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236383618001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (orink@t6b.com whitelisted) Received: from barracuda.t6mail.com (mx.t6mail.com [66.254.202.24]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1249795538-094200a10000-d2pLVl X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.1.1.2:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from zimbra2.t6wireless.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barracuda.t6mail.com (Spam & Virus Firewall) with SMTP id 3E1611758058 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:25:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from zimbra2.t6wireless.com (zimbra2.t6wireless.com [66.254.202.21]) by barracuda.t6mail.com with SMTP id SBJbYUK7cMrn40yz for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:25:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: orink@t6b.com X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 66.254.202.21 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra2.t6wireless.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33379CEEE20 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:25:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra2.t6wireless.com Received: from zimbra2.t6wireless.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra2.t6wireless.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c866w6uPHY+w for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from zimbra2.t6wireless.com (zimbra2.t6wireless.com [66.254.202.21]) by zimbra2.t6wireless.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD97CF4AA4 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:25:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-BBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 66.254.202.21 X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 66.254.202.21 From: orink@t6b.com To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: <29476203.305311249795534641.JavaMail.root@zimbra2> In-Reply-To: <1683476.305291249795306446.JavaMail.root@zimbra2> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [66.114.186.4] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.18_GA_3011.UBUNTU6 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/5.0.18_GA_3011.UBUNTU6) X-Barracuda-Connect: zimbra2.t6wireless.com[66.254.202.21] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1249795538 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam & Virus Firewall at t6mail.com Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 07:25:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e5dd8201171560218263 The blue sky is beautiful. What are the small buildings in the background of picture # 1? Could the property have been part of a movie set or small, cheap hotel? The small stones used in the driveway and the relatively small stones used in the back wall of the house, together with the thin walls make it seem as though it was almost made to fall apart quickly. The depth of packed stone, if any, under the thin upper layer of surface stone in the driveway might also indicate quick construction. In the 4th picture, the third story arch looks like it was built around six vertical steel rods. I think that would also imply fairly recent construction methods. Very Interesting. Let us know what you find out about its history. As Ever, Orin Keplinger near Chicago __________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:34:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante You see lots abandon farmhouses in the countryside here, but this was clearly something bigger. No idea of the story behind it. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Ouch! Why did this happen? > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand >> at real estate ;-) >> >> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 >> >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> Alicante, Spain >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >> >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 07:37:00 2009 Received: (qmail 16575 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 05:36:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 05:36:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89730E181AC for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429E8E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7153628001 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:36:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94A43618004 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp04.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:49158 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay04.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.44]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Ma15M-0002Su-Dy (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:36:49 +0000 Message-Id: <25558B2A-1708-475B-BCA3-05F5B7D75A5E@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <29476203.305311249795534641.JavaMail.root@zimbra2> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:36:47 +0200 References: <29476203.305311249795534641.JavaMail.root@zimbra2> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts of Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 07:37:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e607c182831612113968 Hi Orin, Thanks for looking. The small buildings are just part of the main house. I am sure it was not a movie set. But you are right, it does not look that old, so it could be an abandoned construction projects from, say, 20-30 years ago. The fact that the construction is shoddy is nothing surprising--much construction down here is of a quality that would not be accepted in Northern Europe. I will investigate a bit further. I noticed the place when we were driving to a shopping centre in the suburbs in the morning and decided that I wanted to photograph it. Since we were on the motorway, stopping was not an option, and it also looked like a challenging place to get to in a car. So when we got home, I took my motorcycle and set out to find a way--and I did, little "camino" that at a certain point involved leaving the road and using a 100 m of dirt path to get to another little paved road that led me to the house. Definitely something for 2, not 4 wheels :-) Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 9, 2009, at 7:25 AM, orink@t6b.com wrote: > The blue sky is beautiful. > > What are the small buildings in the background of picture # 1? > > Could the property have been part of a movie set or small, cheap > hotel? The small stones used in the driveway and the relatively > small stones used in the back wall of the house, together with the > thin walls make it seem as though it was almost made to fall apart > quickly. The depth of packed stone, if any, under the thin upper > layer of surface stone in the driveway might also indicate quick > construction. In the 4th picture, the third story arch looks like it > was built around six vertical steel rods. I think that would also > imply fairly recent construction methods. Very Interesting. Let us > know what you find out about its history. > > As Ever, > Orin Keplinger > near Chicago > __________________________________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Wajsman" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 11:34:39 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > Central > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Magnificent mansion for sale on the outskirts > of Alicante > > You see lots abandon farmhouses in the countryside here, but this was > clearly something bigger. No idea of the story behind it. > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Aug 9, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> Ouch! Why did this happen? >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>> Went for a motorcycle ride earlier today, and decided to try my hand >>> at real estate ;-) >>> >>> http://www.greatpix.eu/gallery/9198753_vCxZk#614075039_9UHu7 >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 08:52:12 2009 Received: (qmail 5578 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 06:52:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 06:52:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5825E18236 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F6E240E0 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BBF1A02F3 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:52:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A4A1A02EE for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:52:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:56094 helo=IanMacBookPro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ma2GE-0007yX-34 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:52:01 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 08:52:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e721c233061879814018 Just search adobe for the new raw convertor file and plonk it in the appropriate folder, If I recall correctly the hardest part is finding whichfolder to place the file, but instructions are about.s: > I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a > prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think they > don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You just > haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 09:00:51 2009 Received: (qmail 32300 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 07:00:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 07:00:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54867E1824D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CE4E240E0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7323628001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:00:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8AD3618001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:00:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:56182 helo=IanMacBookPro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ma2Ob-00015N-G5 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:00:41 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 09:00:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e742378671073733319 this one has e-3 support On 09/08/2009 08:52, SwissPace wrote: > Just search adobe for the new raw convertor file and plonk it in the > appropriate folder, If I recall correctly the hardest part is finding > whichfolder to place the file, but instructions are about.s: > >> I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a >> prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think they >> don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You just >> haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) >> >> >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 10:04:24 2009 Received: (qmail 30751 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 08:04:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 08:04:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C148DE18247 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B898E240E0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6957E3628001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:04:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851193618004 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:04:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n7984Eqp003393 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:04:14 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:04:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 10:04:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e8308242871234514069 It is not compatible with CS2. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "SwissPace" > this one has e-3 support > > > > > On 09/08/2009 08:52, SwissPace wrote: >> Just search adobe for the new raw convertor file and plonk it in the >> appropriate folder, If I recall correctly the hardest part is finding >> whichfolder to place the file, but instructions are about.s: >> >>> I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a >>> prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think they >>> don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You just >>> haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 10:25:42 2009 Received: (qmail 24841 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 08:25:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 08:25:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C425BE1824D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF63E240E0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C993688001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:25:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA8E3618001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:25:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:49493 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1Ma3id-0003c9-2i (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:25:32 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:25:30 +0200 References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 10:25:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7e880675061950411718 Exactly, It is Adobe's sneaky way of forcing you to upgrade Photoshop, just because you have a new camera, even if you are perfectly happy with the functionality of the previous version. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 9, 2009, at 10:04 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > It is not compatible with CS2. > > C.H.Ling > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SwissPace" > >> this one has e-3 support >> >> >> >> >> On 09/08/2009 08:52, SwissPace wrote: >>> Just search adobe for the new raw convertor file and plonk it in the >>> appropriate folder, If I recall correctly the hardest part is >>> finding >>> whichfolder to place the file, but instructions are about.s: >>> >>>> I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a >>>> prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think >>>> they >>>> don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You >>>> just >>>> haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 12:50:58 2009 Received: (qmail 9410 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 10:50:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 10:50:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1B1E1824C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88606E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDE53628001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:50:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0013618004 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:50:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f189.google.com (mail-yw0-f189.google.com [209.85.211.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh27 with SMTP id 27so3395046ywh.26 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:50:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.49.4 with SMTP id w4mr373031ybw.58.1249815041568; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:50:41 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 84e94c73232384fb Message-ID: <60f983080908090350o296d260ahde049eb20b300591@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 12:50:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7eaa12154392439112457 Thanks, Chris. The company seems unreliable :-( --- Michael 2009/8/9 Chris Crawford > They have long had the worst reputation of any mail order camera store in > the USA. Bait and switch, taking your money and never sending goods, rude > salespeople, etc. > > > -- > Chris Crawford > Fine Art Photography > Fort Wayne, Indiana > 260-747-5101 > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio > > http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! > > > > On 8/8/09 11:03 PM, "Michael Wong" wrote: > > > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > > > > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > > > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the > >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member > who is > >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with > >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, > >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one > for > >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. > >> > >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer > >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information > as > >> above if you'll sell it to me. > >> > >> > >> Thank you very much!!!! > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Michael > >> > >> > >> > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 12:52:17 2009 Received: (qmail 3122 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 10:52:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 10:52:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687D8E1806B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DE6E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371233628002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:52:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DC53618001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:52:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-yw0-f189.google.com (mail-yw0-f189.google.com [209.85.211.189]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywh27 with SMTP id 27so3395425ywh.26 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:52:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.91.20 with SMTP id o20mr1085875ybb.301.1249815130297; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:52:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:52:10 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 856a64ce0e46fbc5 Message-ID: <60f983080908090352n2f913194xb88cb622542c2e8a@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 12:52:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7eaa61242622517112723 Thanks, Bob. I drop down the plan to buy the 66 kit with it. --- Michael 2009/8/9 Bob Docherty > > > Please see the following run! don't walk away! > http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Cambridge_Camera > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Wong" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color > > > > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > > > > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > > > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the > >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member > who > >> is > >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with > >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, > >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one > >> for > >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. > >> > >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer > >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information > >> as > >> above if you'll sell it to me. > >> > >> > >> Thank you very much!!!! > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Michael > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/08/09 > 06:10:00 > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 13:28:31 2009 Received: (qmail 12145 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 11:28:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 11:28:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16226E18246 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE675E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D0E34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B7AE34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21571 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 11:28:23 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 13:28:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7eb2df289531342116753 You've already been advised to check resellerratings.com. There you can see that cambridgeworld.com is just as dishonest as most of the other camera sellers in New York City. It has always been that way in New York City ever since I first started buying camera gear there by mail in 1968 (when cambridgeworld.com was then known as Cambridge Camera before going out of business about 2002 and resurfacing on the web). Today, I don't trust any New York City stores except B&H or Adorama. Chuck Norcutt Michael Wong wrote: > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > Thanks for any advice. > > > --- > Michael > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member who is >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one for >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. >> >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information as >> above if you'll sell it to me. >> >> >> Thank you very much!!!! >> >> >> --- >> Michael >> >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 13:38:00 2009 Received: (qmail 1252 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 11:37:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 11:37:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE00E18069 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B93BE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E034AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:37:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A3734AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:37:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mialop.wong@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-gx0-f207.google.com (mail-gx0-f207.google.com [209.85.217.207]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gxk3 with SMTP id 3so3146707gxk.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:37:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.135.4 with SMTP id i4mr2570989ybd.141.1249817873979; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:37:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7EB2D6.3040702@chucknorcutt.com> References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> <4A7EB2D6.3040702@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:37:53 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2b4784693606d13b Message-ID: <60f983080908090437i5780268el176d83e6da21ee7@mail.gmail.com> From: Michael Wong To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 13:38:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7eb518199056789618724 Thanks, Chuck. Lucky you advised me about the cambridgeworld.com & I have to wait at eBay. --- Michael 2009/8/9 Chuck Norcutt > You've already been advised to check resellerratings.com. There you can > see that cambridgeworld.com is just as dishonest as most of the other > camera sellers in New York City. It has always been that way in New > York City ever since I first started buying camera gear there by mail in > 1968 (when cambridgeworld.com was then known as Cambridge Camera before > going out of business about 2002 and resurfacing on the web). > > Today, I don't trust any New York City stores except B&H or Adorama. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Michael Wong wrote: > > Anyone who is experience with cambridgeworld.com? I am finding a set of > > Lidicolset 66 for my Durst M370 Easy Color enlarger & just find the > > cambridgeworld.com is available but I don't know it. > > http://www.cambridgeworld.com/detail.php?item_id=10282 > > > > Is it an internet shop of USA? is it reliable? > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > --- > > Michael > > > > > > > > 2009/8/4 Michael Wong > > > >> Have bought an used Durst enlarger but so pity the seller didn't buy the > >> Lidicolset 66 set yet. Wish to get one set for 6x6 prints. Any member > who is > >> willing to sell his/her one to me, please contact me off the list with > >> price, shipping charges with USPS EMS or similar service to Hong Kong, > >> pictures are requested because there are 2 sets 66 kit similar but one > for > >> Easy Color and another one for B&W M370. > >> > >> By the way, also WTB a 4 blade easel for 11x14" or 12x16" prints, prefer > >> Saunders LPL model. Please contact me off the list with same information > as > >> above if you'll sell it to me. > >> > >> > >> Thank you very much!!!! > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Michael > >> > >> > >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 13:56:07 2009 Received: (qmail 14471 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 11:56:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 11:56:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC6CE18066 for ; 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(chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 11:57:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7EB992.4000508@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:57:06 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 13:57:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7eb99a186505368819438 Yes, at least in my case, looking for green reflections as indicative of multicoating. As I recall, this was judged by some to be unreliable. But, for my own experience with my own Zuikos, I've never seen an x.Zuiko that reflects anything green (blues, reds and yellows only) and any lens I have that says "MC" or has a serial number newer than the "MC" marking period all reflect green. But I have multicoated Kirons that don't reflect green. I suspect great caution is required here since it was reported back then that Olympus first started multicoating selected elements long before all elements were multicoated and supposedly before "MC" became an important marketing factor and placed prominently on the lens. It is probably much more important to multicoat certain interior elements to control interior reflections than it is to multicoat the front side of the front element which would only make a miniscule improvement in light transmission. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: >> > > If I recall correctly, those were the days of peering deep into the lens > looking at reflection colors. Wasn't the "MC" column to be a judgment > based on observation of the coating themselves? Others, and I to a > limited extent, have noticed that the coatings changed character with > later production within both SC & MC. This may have been a late version > of mostly single coating with a different formula and/or a multiple > coating or two that fooled the eye. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 14:14:39 2009 Received: (qmail 9798 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 12:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 12:14:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28635E182B0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28284E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194AC19E238 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1D619E222 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wijsmuller@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2049346bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:14:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.101.13 with SMTP id a13mr2241154bko.28.1249820072027; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:14:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:14:31 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 40cf98b683a96616 Message-ID: From: Frank Wijsmuller To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 14:14:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ebdaf83749730998309 Olympus made a prototype design with a fixed 72mm filter ring, as can be seen in this picture (bottom right): < http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~rwesson/esif/om-sif/lensgroup/images/lens_group_photo2.jpg > So I would be surprised if the compact production version was due to the Maitani vision, why else bothering with the (expensive?) prototype? But of course it could be they made the prototype without consulting Maitani, confronting him with the prototype to see it veto-ed. He probably could have done that if you read the XA story ;-) Regards, Frank 2009/8/9 Moose > Wayne Harridge wrote: > > While the 18/3.5 is a brilliant optical design (especially considering > when it was released), I think the mechanical design is pathetic. > > I suppose the mechanical design is a part of the original Maitani vision > of a small, light system. Every other brand of super-wide at the time > was a huge, heavy monster. I've got a case for a Nikon 18/3.5; the > Zuiko, even with hood, just rattles around loose in it, taking up maybe > 2/3 the space. > > > The hood/filter ring should have been part of the lens body not a fiddly > screw on accessory which had to be purchased separately. I just can't think > of any situation when I have needed to use this lens where the hood/filter > ring had to be removed. > > Exactly. From my perspective, having bought one with hood, generic 72mm > cap (Since replaced with one that says "Olympus") and a nice, generic > case that fits that combo perfectly, it's not an issue. I simply treat > it as though the hood were permanently attached. > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 14:21:28 2009 Received: (qmail 19216 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 12:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 12:21:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEFCE18174 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1D1E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D98819E25E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:21:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAF619E240 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:21:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18770 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 12:21:20 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] How the day wound up X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 14:21:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ebf48309621950411718 I think I would have at least taken a monopod... unless it was in the car that was in the garage being serviced. I went yesterday to the Pierce Creek civil war reenactment where I always end up shooting nearly everything at 200mm. I went to get the monopod only to discover that it's in the Buick which is in the dealer's garage awaiting new front brakes. So this year's shots may be a little shakier than before. :-) ps: I've also finally discovered a reason to shoot JPEG. For three years running I've been trying to catch the flame of a canon shot before everything is obscured by smoke. Having not succeeded before I decided that I must just start rapid fire shooting when the gun captain indicates he's about ready to issue the command to fire. After missing several attempts I tried shooting even faster only to discover that I rapidly filled the buffer and had to wait what seemed like an hour before the SanDisk Extreme III finished writing raw files. I missed the main event on that try and was too tired of holding up my 300 pound lens without a monopod. So I gave up. Next year I'll have to switch to JPEG to try and catch the flame. :-) Chuck Norcutt Joel Wilcox wrote: > I spent the last hours of good light today, from about 4 PM to 8, > riding hither and yon on the trusty motorrad and shooting about 25 > frames of Kodachrome 25. Rode about 100 miles and only briefly left > the county. I generally followed an ellipse with the farthest point > about 25 miles from home, but there were three or four excursions from > the main route to check light, subjects, and shoot if I could. > > After waxing eloquent the other day about the virtues of auto mode on > the OM-4, I think I'm going to keep using multispot but switch to > manual mode as long as I am shooting this slow slow film handheld. > I'm going to take the reciprocal of the lens length, set that for my > shutter speed, do my spot readings and then just take whatever > aperture I get. It's really a challenge to shoot ASA 25 especially as > the light goes. I felt like Galen Rowell shooting the sunset tonight > as I ran around looking for something on which to brace the camera. > > But these are good problems to have. It was really a fun evening. > > Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 14:29:13 2009 Received: (qmail 13050 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 12:29:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 12:29:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D06E18229 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725E1E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AAF19E289 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:29:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A85619E274 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23267 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 12:29:05 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 12:29:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7EC110.3040200@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:29:04 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 14:29:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ec119223452013633067 In a pinch though you could use the current version of the free DNG converter and then load the DNG into ACR for CS2. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Exactly, It is Adobe's sneaky way of forcing you to upgrade Photoshop, > just because you have a new camera, even if you are perfectly happy > with the functionality of the previous version. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Aug 9, 2009, at 10:04 AM, C.H.Ling wrote: > >> It is not compatible with CS2. >> >> C.H.Ling >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "SwissPace" >> >>> this one has e-3 support >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 09/08/2009 08:52, SwissPace wrote: >>>> Just search adobe for the new raw convertor file and plonk it in the >>>> appropriate folder, If I recall correctly the hardest part is >>>> finding >>>> whichfolder to place the file, but instructions are about.s: >>>> >>>>> I don't know what Adobe's policy is to upgrading ACR in a >>>>> prior release. I suspect they don't do that. In short, I think >>>>> they >>>>> don't care whether everyone has most of their clothes on. You >>>>> just >>>>> haven't paid the E3 freight for CS2. :-) >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 14:59:47 2009 Received: (qmail 14918 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 12:59:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 12:59:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE694E182AE for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15507E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0294334AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:59:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A85F34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8302 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 12:59:38 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] T-45 on Craiglist X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 14:59:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ec843115976107113666 Looks like a good deal if you think you need a T45. BTW, the flash is located in Greece, New York, a small town north of Rochester. It's not in Europe. :-) Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > > FYI: > > http://rochester.craigslist.org/pho/1312629167.html > > No affiliation, etc. > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 15:15:47 2009 Received: (qmail 264 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 13:15:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 13:15:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4673E18247 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCDAE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED13119E3D9 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E57C19E3C3 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so638655fgg.13 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.197 with SMTP id w5mr283468hbb.144.1249823739787; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7EC839.6030302@chucknorcutt.com> References: <942225.28973.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7EC839.6030302@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:15:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 149f0c20ee813a3e Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] T-45 on Craiglist X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 15:15:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ecc03102901950411718 An EXCELLENT flash for an excellent price. If you need to have the battery pack rebuilt, I can do that for you. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 15:18:36 2009 Received: (qmail 17897 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 13:18:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 13:18:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142D7E18035 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E69E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5D419E3FD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:18:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB6719E3C3 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:18:30 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so638860fgg.13 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.197 with SMTP id w5mr283633hbb.144.1249823909313; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7EBF3F.8040808@chucknorcutt.com> References: <9e908c1f0908082140j1766a90esde5141f318503c24@mail.gmail.com> <4A7EBF3F.8040808@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:18:29 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ed79e36bd62d5ed Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] How the day wound up X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 15:18:36 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7eccac125751234514069 Dr RAW wrote: > > ps: I've also finally discovered a reason to shoot JPEG. For three > years running I've been trying to catch the flame of a canon shot before > everything is obscured by smoke. Having not succeeded before I decided > that I must just start rapid fire shooting when the gun captain > indicates he's about ready to issue the command to fire. After missing > several attempts I tried shooting even faster only to discover that I > rapidly filled the buffer and had to wait what seemed like an hour > before the SanDisk Extreme III finished writing raw files. I missed the > main event on that try and was too tired of holding up my 300 pound lens > without a monopod. So I gave up. Next year I'll have to switch to JPEG > to try and catch the flame. :-) > When shooting sports, I'm using JPEG HQ for this very reason. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 15:20:17 2009 Received: (qmail 25213 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 13:20:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 13:20:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7648E18068 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3732FE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBA219E400 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:20:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D16619E3FD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:20:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2238447fxm.37 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:20:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr338566hbd.52.1249824010645; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:20:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:20:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 13183bba21c67d79 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 15:20:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ecd11135422517112723 > > Exactly, It is Adobe's sneaky way of forcing you to upgrade Photoshop, > just because you have a new camera, even if you are perfectly happy > with the functionality of the previous version. > Which is why I refuse to buy Adobe products unless I absolutely must. And people WANT to convert all their perfectly good files to DNG????? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 15:24:08 2009 Received: (qmail 21255 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 13:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 13:24:06 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23285E1807A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD27E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3C19E417 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:24:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9FA19E3FD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:24:02 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22398 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 13:24:01 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 13:24:01 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7ECDF0.8000504@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:24:00 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <9e908c1f0908082140j1766a90esde5141f318503c24@mail.gmail.com> <4A7EBF3F.8040808@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] How the day wound up X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 15:24:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ecdf8233281413256596 I've never run into this before even shooting the grandkids football, baseball and soccer games with an even slower card. It just caught me totally by surprise. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > Dr RAW wrote: >> ps: I've also finally discovered a reason to shoot JPEG. For three >> years running I've been trying to catch the flame of a canon shot before >> everything is obscured by smoke. Having not succeeded before I decided >> that I must just start rapid fire shooting when the gun captain >> indicates he's about ready to issue the command to fire. After missing >> several attempts I tried shooting even faster only to discover that I >> rapidly filled the buffer and had to wait what seemed like an hour >> before the SanDisk Extreme III finished writing raw files. I missed the >> main event on that try and was too tired of holding up my 300 pound lens >> without a monopod. So I gave up. Next year I'll have to switch to JPEG >> to try and catch the flame. :-) >> > > > When shooting sports, I'm using JPEG HQ for this very reason. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 18:32:08 2009 Received: (qmail 2478 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 16:32:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 16:32:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C4BE18191 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7EBE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D32E19E7DF for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC6E19E7DD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090809163159H030024kj3e>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:31:59 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <3C31B5D802D74B3C9D5CE56394731ED7@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <942225.28973.qm@web39804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A7EC839.6030302@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:31:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [OM] Greece (Re: T-45 on Craiglist) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 18:32:08 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7efa0897881234514069 > Looks like a good deal if you think you need a T45. BTW, the flash is > located in Greece, New York, a small town north of Rochester. It's not > in Europe. :-) Darn it! I was looking for an excuse to go to Greece! :) Any list members from Greece? I was born and raised in Greece, have relatives there and plan to run the Athens Marathon in November. George (the "new guy") -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 18:33:24 2009 Received: (qmail 19703 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 16:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 16:33:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F156E1824E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CCBE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BDF19E7DD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:33:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7148E19E7E1 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (usher99@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com (imo-m19.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.11]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n79GXALr015739 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from USHER99@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 6.c32.5ace2a19 (37057) for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.104]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB043-b30f4a7efa402c0; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:33:05 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MY28 (webmail-my28.sim.aol.com [64.12.109.86]) by smtprly-me03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYME037-b30f4a7efa402c0; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:33:04 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:33:04 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 24.34.160.216 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 24.34.160.216 by WEBMAIL-MY28.sysops.aol.com (64.12.109.86) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:33:04 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE7263444E7C9-C84-1849@WEBMAIL-MY28.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 18:33:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7efa54250231234514069 This UK company which makes or markets the adapter mentions the change.? The exact dimenson difference and mAh can be be looked up at microbattery.com.?? I don't think Tim had profiled the discharge curves for the 386.?I suppose I would want the battery cap screwed down nice and tight---75% of forever may be long enough for the batteries.? Mike ? ? http://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_mr9_adapter.htm ? ? I must have been one of the first to buy the new MR9s from John. He included 357s with them. I noticed that the battery cap wouldn't screw quite all the way down. The meter worked, but something wasn't quite right. I let John know about the change. Seems CRIS made the change, with battery requirement duly noted in small print on the package, without giving resellers a heads up. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 18:42:24 2009 Received: (qmail 2591 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 16:42:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 16:42:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71896E18196 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C25E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E111219E800 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[none] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BED319E7FF for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:42:15 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp06.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:50544 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay06.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.46]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MaBTI-0002os-Jz (Exim 4.69) for olympus@thomasclausen.net (return-path ); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:42:13 +0000 Message-Id: From: Nathan Wajsman To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:42:11 +0200 References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 18:42:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7efc70196431073733319 Well, I stopped using Photoshop but Lightroom is just the ticket and is much cheaper, so I don't mind upgrading once in a while. And yes, I prefer to have all my files as DNG. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Ken Norton wrote: >> >> Exactly, It is Adobe's sneaky way of forcing you to upgrade >> Photoshop, >> just because you have a new camera, even if you are perfectly happy >> with the functionality of the previous version. >> > > > Which is why I refuse to buy Adobe products unless I absolutely > must. And > people WANT to convert all their perfectly good files to DNG????? > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 19:11:47 2009 Received: (qmail 26501 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 17:11:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 17:11:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED208E18255 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135A0E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FAB34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8648F34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A88F31408D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA892314086 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A7F0358.1000408@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:11:52 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 19:11:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f0353127524877110844 CS2 does not open Olympus RAW files. I'm perfectly happy with the functionality of CS2 and will not upgrade for this single feature. Besides, I don't like Adobe's attitude. Thisa would be a simple thing to include in ACR -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 19:22:02 2009 Received: (qmail 16701 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 17:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 17:22:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D26E18065 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51385E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A3E34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC14F34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:21:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dallasgossfamily@tx.rr.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [76.184.57.145]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090809172154838.ENQN15914@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:21:54 +0000 Message-ID: <4A7F05AD.7070806@tx.rr.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:21:49 -0500 From: Steve & Alicia Goss User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 19:22:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f05ba221272439112457 Ken- There may be life in that old camera bag yet. look around for a tailor shop that can handle heavy fabric and see if they will put in a new zipper. I got the upper pocket on my NovaPro Nova 5 fixed for $15 that way. Thanks, Steve Goss, Dallas tx usa Ken Norton wrote: > Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. Even > if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you > ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the miles > of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. > > Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was > it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the > floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. > > Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and > possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. > > The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. Poor > thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of water > too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the > others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked > past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means waterproof, > but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. > > Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. Had > it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years to > come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to Colorado--that > Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as > usable or comfortable to carry as you. > > You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic > equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially > heavier. You did your part, you performed well. > > Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you in > the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, I > don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that > zipper, just won't hold together. > > Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the > best bag I've ever had. > > AG Schnozz > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 19:29:05 2009 Received: (qmail 21149 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 17:29:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 17:29:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0089E1824D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D23E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AF419E920 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC2819E925 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:28:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:28:58 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n79HSsCO010901 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:28:56 GMT Message-ID: <174D0028343C441A8D33048DA14719E9@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A7F0358.1000408@interisland.net> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:28:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 19:29:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f0761211656107113666 Starting with Version 6.0, Photoshop Elements does have a RAW converter that handles the ORF files from my E-510. A lot less expensive option. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Lazzari" To: "1" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? > CS2 does not open Olympus RAW files. I'm perfectly happy with the > functionality of CS2 and will not upgrade for this single feature. > Besides, I don't like Adobe's attitude. Thisa would be a simple thing to > include in ACR > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 19:52:44 2009 Received: (qmail 15108 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 17:52:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 17:52:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268D4E180B8 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F937E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FFA34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:52:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B052134AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:52:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15898 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 17:52:38 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 17:52:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7F0CE5.9010909@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:52:37 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7F0358.1000408@interisland.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7F0358.1000408@interisland.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 19:52:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f0cec180875034211378 I just tried the latest DNG converter and picked up an E3 ORF file from the web. Seems to work fine but, of course, I had to load the DNG file into ACR under CS3. I'm assuming that CS2 will be happy with the resulting DNG file. Incidentally, you don't get an option to pick individual files. It just converts whatever raw files are in a chosen folder and puts the DNG files in the same spot or another folder of your choosing. You also have the option of renaming the DNG files on the way out ala ACR if desired. Conversion took only a couple of seconds including finding the lone ORF file in a folder containing a couple hundred JPEGs. Chuck Norcutt Mike Lazzari wrote: > CS2 does not open Olympus RAW files. I'm perfectly happy with the > functionality of CS2 and will not upgrade for this single feature. > Besides, I don't like Adobe's attitude. Thisa would be a simple thing to > include in ACR -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 20:06:42 2009 Received: (qmail 15067 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 18:06:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 18:06:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E50E18244 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B702BE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC47734AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:06:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2925134AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:06:37 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wkkato@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2127379bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.103.69 with SMTP id j5mr791719fao.46.1249841195240; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:06:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Warren Kato To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 20:06:42 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f103247512439112457 I used to have an 18mm with proper hood. But of what use is such a flat hood? A hat works much better. The hood did give some solace though in case I dropped the camera and lens. -- Warren "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --A. Einstein -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 22:28:17 2009 Received: (qmail 1335 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 20:28:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 20:28:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEE5E1806F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C984EE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37DB34AC004 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C860634AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alanmwood@yahoo.co.uk whitelisted) Received: from web26607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.57]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 74868 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2009 20:28:08 -0000 Message-ID: <378659.72929.qm@web26607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: B1O1NcgVM1mjHneszUAGH04.knor8OddoToI6Nntb5ARE40EnEMWAh7S9vUMHJ6IyHbN.hsNwZDmRV9Etw9nzn89gYLh2vJw8bBhT_4nTnakizpBPMvJ9NuDYKc3sACWjsUbP50wk9hTM0PPMAZ1Z8.RcCKWCGEEjhnkvdI49g9bypEQV64ivPBt_FPDmkrKl1QY6h5GQJgEZrtpjtCZIfU.Z7G0COOKlPGaTSbdL2zEJNwdDgtlcxsi9vrb_.s7yLud0DC0fcPKBokpkYb8CtvgO6b6VXY2lL2lFg.kGVDILy6E75rPTkSn.b63p5LubkubL0vvRxB2tOQnB_8M3Gjg763LVnr4Nza0wyC5 Received: from [89.243.188.54] by web26607.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:28:08 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.27 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 References: <4A7E0D6B.7080909@gmail.com> <004901ca1898$46146dc0$d23d4940$@com> <4A7E444A.5040805@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:28:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Alan Wood To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7E444A.5040805@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 22:28:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f3161193112439112457 I have also seen a photograph of=A0an F.ZUIKO MACRO 1:4 f=3D80mm, but I cou= ld not see the serial number. I have lists of serial numbers and versions of this and other macro lenses = on my Web site, for example: =A0-- = Alan Wood http://www.alanwood.net (Unicode, special characters, pesticide names) = ----- Original Message ---- Jeff Keller wrote: I've seen one manual version F.ZUIKO MACRO 1:4 f=3D80mm on ebay. = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 22:30:28 2009 Received: (qmail 23205 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 20:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 20:30:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E04E1822C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D8CE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54F719EBF5 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4945A19EBF1 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16708 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 20:30:20 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 22:30:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f31e4111909730998309 You're in the wrong place to go see her since she's in Oxnard, CA but my sister would do a repair like that. She and her husband run a shop called California Custom Covers and make custom canvas and related items for boats in the Oxnard marina. I hadn't thought about it before but she could probably repair that bag in a flash. Chuck Norcutt Steve & Alicia Goss wrote: > Ken- > There may be life in that old camera bag yet. > look around for a tailor shop that can handle heavy fabric and see if > they will put in a new zipper. > > I got the upper pocket on my NovaPro Nova 5 fixed for $15 that way. > > Thanks, Steve Goss, Dallas tx usa > > Ken Norton wrote: >> Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. Even >> if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you >> ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the miles >> of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. >> >> Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was >> it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the >> floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. >> >> Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and >> possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. >> >> The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. Poor >> thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of water >> too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the >> others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked >> past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means waterproof, >> but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. >> >> Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. Had >> it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years to >> come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to Colorado--that >> Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as >> usable or comfortable to carry as you. >> >> You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic >> equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially >> heavier. You did your part, you performed well. >> >> Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you in >> the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, I >> don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that >> zipper, just won't hold together. >> >> Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the >> best bag I've ever had. >> >> AG Schnozz >> >> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 22:32:23 2009 Received: (qmail 32646 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 20:32:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 20:32:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86A5E18178 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87571E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F44819EBFF for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:32:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91F219EBE7 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17785 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 20:32:16 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 20:32:16 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7F324F.7020600@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:32:15 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 22:32:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f325797171560218263 And that is the most important value of many hoods. :-) Chuck Norcutt Warren Kato wrote: > I used to have an 18mm with proper hood. But of what use is such a > flat hood? A hat works much better. The hood did give some solace > though in case I dropped the camera and lens. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 22:42:12 2009 Received: (qmail 27789 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 20:42:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 20:42:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F2BE18228 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87822E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FF719EC0A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:42:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC89719EC06 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25162 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 20:42:06 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 20:42:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7F349D.4090209@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:42:05 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7F05AD.7070806@tx.rr.com> <4A7F31DC.30502@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7F31DC.30502@chucknorcutt.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090808-0, 08/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 22:42:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f34a4109761413256596 I just happened to think that there probably aren't too many marinas in Grinnell, Iowa. However, my sister's shop also makes custom canvas items (mostly awnings) for RVs. So I'm sure there is a canvas shop around you some place that can replace a heavy duty zipper. Chuck Norcutt Chuck Norcutt wrote: > You're in the wrong place to go see her since she's in Oxnard, CA but my > sister would do a repair like that. She and her husband run a shop > called California Custom Covers and make custom canvas and related items > for boats in the Oxnard marina. I hadn't thought about it before but > she could probably repair that bag in a flash. > > Chuck Norcutt > > Steve & Alicia Goss wrote: >> Ken- >> There may be life in that old camera bag yet. >> look around for a tailor shop that can handle heavy fabric and see if >> they will put in a new zipper. >> >> I got the upper pocket on my NovaPro Nova 5 fixed for $15 that way. >> >> Thanks, Steve Goss, Dallas tx usa >> >> Ken Norton wrote: >>> Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. Even >>> if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you >>> ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the miles >>> of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. >>> >>> Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was >>> it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to the >>> floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. >>> >>> Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and >>> possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. >>> >>> The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. Poor >>> thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of water >>> too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the >>> others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked >>> past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means waterproof, >>> but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. >>> >>> Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. Had >>> it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years to >>> come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to Colorado--that >>> Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as >>> usable or comfortable to carry as you. >>> >>> You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic >>> equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially >>> heavier. You did your part, you performed well. >>> >>> Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you in >>> the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, I >>> don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that >>> zipper, just won't hold together. >>> >>> Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the >>> best bag I've ever had. >>> >>> AG Schnozz >>> >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 22:58:55 2009 Received: (qmail 14070 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 20:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 20:58:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7215CE18256 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C5AE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD9619EC43 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:58:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82D519EC06 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:58:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2365603fxm.37 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.133.67 with SMTP id 3mr349888hbu.63.1249851528109; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:58:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 22:58:55 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f388f318101357919056 Hi George and all, From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" >Yes... A lot of people are surprised to learn this, but stereo pictures >can >be taken with only ONE camera. Just take the first picture, shift the >camera, take the 2nd picture. Yes... I did mine that way! I used a couple of cheap 'backlit' slide viewers to see the results -- with a bit of practice, it's easy to align. >A good starting point is to shift the camera >by 65mm (2.5 inches), which is the average spacing of the eyes. Sure. Also tried with larger distance -- everything seemed like a doll's house! However, close-ups at shorter distance made a rather poor effect. Just a question... if using a (couple of) wide angle, should the distance be larger in order to give a natural effect? Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 23:04:25 2009 Received: (qmail 14518 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 21:04:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 21:04:24 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EBCE18236 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02969E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC67C34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:04:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B84E34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:04:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2367102fxm.37 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.147.203 with SMTP id c11mr370579hbb.93.1249851857585; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:04:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 23:04:25 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f39d9135422517112723 Hi C.H. and all, From: "C.H.Ling" >Not only Olympus, looking at the MTF of many wide lenses, they fall to >'earth' at the corner. It's logical, most aberrations depend on the incidence angle. I've seen the MTF curves of the Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8 -- definitely not the best lens in their excellent lineup. It achieved superb values at the centre, but started decaying quickly, not just until the extreme corners. By f/5.6 thing improved, but at the widest apertures, the much cheaper Yashica ML 28/2.8 (same mount) _is_ (I owned and tested both) a much better performer. >BTW, the 24/2 at F4 performs better than a late >design 17-40L (at 24/F4) even on the edges. Yeeeeeesssss..... I hope the mounted slides will hide the nasty things of it ;^) Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 23:08:27 2009 Received: (qmail 15090 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 21:08:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 21:08:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD60E1806F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48724E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD1C34AC005 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D9C34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2368203fxm.37 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:08:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.149.206 with SMTP id k14mr321353hbb.115.1249852100289; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:08:20 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] ( OM ) Digital landscapes - example X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 23:08:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f3acb83059752976205 Hi Ken, Dawid and all, From: Ken Norton >'ve personally found FP4 to have horrid lateral halation issues, but others >seem to do OK. I suspect that part of my problem is the developer (DD-X) and >my agitation method. I also use DD-X, and found the same halation problems in FP4 -- not my cup of tea, anyway. Delta 100 is really free of that, even in DD-X. OTOH, I like very much PanF's (and Efke 25's) look. Dawid wrote: > I do also find that scanned B&W have shockingly / disturbingly much > more grain than wet-printed B&W, which is why I am taking to scanning my > wet prints (where available). Interesting... > colour film (all of them) have a > much wider gamut of colours than any DSLR I've seen Are you reading this, Fernando? ;^) ;^) Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 23:11:52 2009 Received: (qmail 19281 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 21:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 21:11:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11719E18177 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471F0E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2610C34AC004 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8934AC003 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2169745bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:11:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.136.68 with SMTP id g4mr326870hbg.58.1249852305376; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:11:45 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. Santisteban" To: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 23:11:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f3b9838371234514069 Hi all, Besides all thing said, there's another reason to leave the shutter uncocked: some time after winding (that is, cocking the shutter) the film starts combing out towards the lens -- it's a very small amount, but certainly does make a difference when shooting at large apertures (like f/2 and faster). That's why the vacuum pressure plate of the Contax RTS-3 was for... Cheers, -- Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas IES Turaniana (Roquetas de Mar, Almeria) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 23:23:07 2009 Received: (qmail 297 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 21:23:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 21:23:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CC1E1824D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CD2E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B9419ECD4 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF25E19ECCD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (zuiko21@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2172304bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.130.194 with SMTP id 2mr407701hbk.100.1249852979078; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:22:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Carlos J. 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Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2175397bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:36:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.69 with SMTP id l5mr726542faq.93.1249853793105; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:36:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7F324F.7020600@chucknorcutt.com> References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au> <4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> <4A7F324F.7020600@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:36:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: Warren Kato To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 23:36:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f41693501234514069 Ooops, I also forgot about filters. The old Sigma lens used to have a filtermatic setting wherein you could just dial in a red or yellow filter. Warren On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > And that is the most important value of many hoods. =A0:-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Warren Kato wrote: >> I used to have an 18mm with proper hood. But of what use is such a >> flat hood? =A0A hat works much better. =A0The hood did give some solace >> though in case I dropped the camera and lens. >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = Warren "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --A. Einstein -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Sun Aug 9 23:55:39 2009 Received: (qmail 9209 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 21:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 21:55:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0BAE18034 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF06E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCCC19EDA9 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:55:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0060019EDAD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:55:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2380295fxm.37 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:55:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.197 with SMTP id w5mr315262hbb.144.1249854932339; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:55:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:55:32 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1f57a0f7b6980230 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Sun Aug 9 23:55:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f45db311541950411718 > > >2. Ability to take hours-long time-exposures in sub-zero temperatures, > > ??? The OM-4(T), like the 2/2n/2S, have fully mechanical B setting, so I > don't see the difference here... > Bulb is not mechanical, it's still electronic. The "red" color of the "B" is misleading. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 00:10:01 2009 Received: (qmail 30181 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 22:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 22:09:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC05E1817E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930C2E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754CB19EE10 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286E319EDBC for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl39.gs02.gridserver.com (cl39.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:53603 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl39.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MaGaO-0008WA-Es for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:09:53 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:09:53 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 Thread-Index: AcoZPh7dXSEbPoUxEd6M5gAKlchBUg== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 00:10:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f4939107961076813867 I've never heard that before. John will know the answer to this...hopefully he'll pop in and let us know if the B is really mechanical or electronic on the OM-4/4T -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! On 8/9/09 5:55 PM, "Ken Norton" wrote: >> >>> 2. Ability to take hours-long time-exposures in sub-zero temperatures, >> >> ??? The OM-4(T), like the 2/2n/2S, have fully mechanical B setting, so I >> don't see the difference here... >> > > > Bulb is not mechanical, it's still electronic. The "red" color of the "B" > is misleading. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 00:17:27 2009 Received: (qmail 15161 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 22:17:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 22:17:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00C5E18062 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53717E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3E634AC003 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:17:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C582734AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:17:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:17:22 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n79MHHNK017428; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:17:20 GMT Message-ID: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "LUG@Leica-Users.org" Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:17:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 00:17:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f4af7298451560218263 With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an image of my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get some of my own next year. http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. Comments and critiques welcomed. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 00:25:23 2009 Received: (qmail 31195 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 22:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 22:25:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29155E1806B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E9CE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F16B19EE79 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:25:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD4D19EE42 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 00:25:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f4cd376964877110844 > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > And that is the most important value of many hoods. :-) > Especially for the 18/3.5 with that bulging front element. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 00:31:49 2009 Received: (qmail 16350 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 22:31:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 22:31:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949E6E180B8 for ; 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Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:41 +1000 Message-Id: <200908092231.n79MVfw9004337@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail03.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:41 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:41 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 00:31:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f4e55179251258626592 > Chris Crawford wrote: > > I've never heard that before. John will know the answer to > this...hopefully > he'll pop in and let us know if the B is really mechanical or electronic > on > the OM-4/4T > Easy enough to check, just remove the batteries. ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 01:40:03 2009 Received: (qmail 17330 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 23:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 23:40:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D48E1806A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF4BE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CDA19F259 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:39:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4183119F21F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:39:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2009 19:39:51 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:39:51 -0400 Message-Id: <4A7F25FC0200004E00027576@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:42:48 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 01:40:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f5e53157441413256596 Dawid Loubser is going to be the new home for most of my OM gear. Thank you Dawid. Clay Nichols >>> Dawid Loubser 08/03/09 6:10 PM >>> Hi Clay, Well, I am not sure if you want replies off-list, or not, but here goes, why I would like to be the recipient of your equipment. First of all, I think I am one of the few (i.e. can count on one hand) number of list members using exclusively film equipment. As of this stage, I have zero (nada, zip) cameras with a built-in meter, I never replace the batteries of my OM-1's meter, because it forces me to work in the same all-manual way as with e.g. the Mamiya RB67. Now, my problem is this: I love Macro, and it's most of the time very difficult to calculate exposure for high-magnification work. Were I to be the kind recipient of said OM-2, it would be the most modern camera I own, and would be of great use in the Macro (all black and white film, of course, hand printed in the dark room). The same goes for a flash unit like the T32 - I don't own any flash unit, and would love to get some experience with Flash photography. Last of all, being down here in South Africa, you can be assured that if I ever tire of it, there would be no shortage of a needy soul to pass it along to. anyway, I had to take a shot at it! kind regards, Dawid P.S. When do you announce the free 3Ti? On 03 Aug 2009, at 11:02 PM, Clay Nichols wrote: > Free to a good home: Olympus OM-2 body with attached databack, T 32 > flash with the big power grip and appropriate cables. Given in "as > is" condition. It has been used. It worked fine then. It worked when > I stored it. Should be working now. No promises. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 01:58:44 2009 Received: (qmail 18204 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 23:58:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 23:58:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9FEE180B8 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1550EE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32A619F2AD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:58:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AF219F288 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:58:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7753 invoked by uid 504); 9 Aug 2009 23:58:37 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 9 Aug 2009 23:58:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7F62AD.30102@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:58:37 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 01:58:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f62b4258505368819438 Well, apparently Moose sold me a rare and exotic bird then. (thanks, Moose). My OM-4 is firmly convinced he is mechanical since he still knows how to operate the shutter on "B" when the batteries are removed. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >>> 2. Ability to take hours-long time-exposures in sub-zero temperatures, >> ??? The OM-4(T), like the 2/2n/2S, have fully mechanical B setting, so I >> don't see the difference here... >> > > > Bulb is not mechanical, it's still electronic. The "red" color of the "B" > is misleading. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:02:46 2009 Received: (qmail 24339 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:02:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:02:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A118E18255 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB70E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6757419F2D9 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1B619F2D6 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10539 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 00:02:39 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:02:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f63a6158331342116753 All very nice. Perhaps I'll post some flower shots I took at Hershey Gardens last week. A very nice place. Entrance fee was about $9 and well worth it. I can't say the same for the Hershey Museum. Entrance fee also about $9. Should have been free. We skipped the roller coasters and milk chocolate baths. :-) Chuck Norcutt Jim Nichols wrote: > With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an image of my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get some of my own next year. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html > > Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. > > Comments and critiques welcomed. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:16:38 2009 Received: (qmail 11244 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:16:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EA3E1822C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69881E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473B234AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:16:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44CC34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:16:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:16:33 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7A0GTqU005322 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:16:31 GMT Message-ID: <2B9C452ACF40416C991A07A8F34F1A6E@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> <4A7F639E.6040907@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:16:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:16:38 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f66e6156105368819438 Thanks for looking, Chuck. Flowers are always nice, and don't require a signed release. ;-) Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > All very nice. Perhaps I'll post some flower shots I took at Hershey > Gardens last week. A very nice place. Entrance fee was about $9 and > well worth it. I can't say the same for the Hershey Museum. Entrance > fee also about $9. Should have been free. We skipped the roller > coasters and milk chocolate baths. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Jim Nichols wrote: >> With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT >> followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an image >> of my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to >> get some of my own next year. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html >> >> Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:25:31 2009 Received: (qmail 28594 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:25:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:25:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7766E180B7 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB8CE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7B934AC003 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4367934AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.236]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7A0PNLm018444 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:25:24 +1000 Message-Id: <200908100025.n7A0PNLm018444@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:25:23 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:25:23 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:25:31 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f68fb234321006886880 > Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > ... and milk chocolate baths. :-) > Sounds interesting, might make for a good photographic opportunity with the right models ! ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:27:16 2009 Received: (qmail 24689 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:27:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:27:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56105E1817A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597AE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAD219F3DA for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643D819D955 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.236]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7A0R97M028016 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:27:09 +1000 Message-Id: <200908100027.n7A0R97M028016@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail02.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:27:09 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:27:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:27:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f6964185561234514069 > Jim Nichols wrote: > > Thanks for looking, Chuck. Flowers are always nice, and don't require a > signed release. ;-) > But do you have your neighbour's permission to post images of HIS flowers on the internet ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:34:29 2009 Received: (qmail 22118 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:34:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:34:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B9FE182AE for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0100CE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC16834AC004 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F6F34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28721 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 00:34:22 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:34:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f6b15207801554290 From an idea by CH Ling, here's how to make good use of your T32 for macro. and some results with his creation Chuck Norcutt Clay Nichols wrote: > Dawid Loubser is going to be the new home for most of my OM gear. > Thank you Dawid. > Clay Nichols > >>>> Dawid Loubser 08/03/09 6:10 PM >>> > Hi Clay, > > > Now, my problem is this: I love Macro, and it's most of the time very > difficult to calculate exposure for high-magnification > work. Were I to be the kind recipient of said OM-2, it would be the > most modern camera I own, and would be of great use in the Macro > (all black and white film, of course, hand printed in the dark room). > > The same goes for a flash unit like the T32 - I don't own any flash > unit, and would love to get some experience with Flash photography. > Last of all, being down here in South Africa, you can be assured that > if I ever tire of it, there would be no shortage of a needy > soul to pass it along to. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:37:56 2009 Received: (qmail 28449 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:37:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:37:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792FBE1817A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B69E240E1 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1495D19F42A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843F919F41F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30450 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 00:37:40 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:37:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f6be469007801554290 Not to worry. Some lawyer is working on all of this. To our benefit, of course. :-) Chuck Norcutt Wayne Harridge wrote: > > > >> Jim Nichols wrote: >> >> Thanks for looking, Chuck. Flowers are always nice, and don't require a >> signed release. ;-) >> > > But do you have your neighbour's permission to post images of HIS flowers on the internet ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:55:54 2009 Received: (qmail 28806 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:55:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9D3E1824C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0107E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A1619F4BF for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE28819F4B7 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:55:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (clay.nichols@palmettohealth.org whitelisted) Received: from mail2.palmettohealth.org (mail2.palmettohealth.org [167.171.195.18]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phgwia.palmettohealth.org ([167.171.85.217]) by mail2.palmettohealth.org with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2009 20:55:45 -0400 Received: from PHADOM6-MTA by phgwia.palmettohealth.org with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:55:45 -0400 Message-Id: <4A7F37C80200004E0002757C@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 8.0.0 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:58:45 -0400 From: "Clay Nichols" To: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:55:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f701a150611560218263 Dawid is also going to get a T28 twin flash and T 10 ring flash. >>> Chuck Norcutt 08/09/09 8:34 PM >>> >From an idea by CH Ling, here's how to make good use of your T32 for macro. and some results with his creation Chuck Norcutt Clay Nichols wrote: > Dawid Loubser is going to be the new home for most of my OM gear. > Thank you Dawid. > Clay Nichols > >>>> Dawid Loubser 08/03/09 6:10 PM >>> > Hi Clay, > > > Now, my problem is this: I love Macro, and it's most of the time very > difficult to calculate exposure for high-magnification > work. Were I to be the kind recipient of said OM-2, it would be the > most modern camera I own, and would be of great use in the Macro > (all black and white film, of course, hand printed in the dark room). > > The same goes for a flash unit like the T32 - I don't own any flash > unit, and would love to get some experience with Flash photography. > Last of all, being down here in South Africa, you can be assured that > if I ever tire of it, there would be no shortage of a needy > soul to pass it along to. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 02:59:19 2009 Received: (qmail 14338 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 00:59:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 00:59:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AD1E182AD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07431E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87D534AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588FD34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9517 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 00:59:12 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 02:59:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f70e7193355034211378 Wow! I've never even seen them. Dr. (non-macro) Flash Clay Nichols wrote: > Dawid is also going to get a T28 twin flash and T 10 ring flash. > >>>> Chuck Norcutt 08/09/09 8:34 PM >>> >>From an idea by CH Ling, here's how to make good use of your T32 for > macro. > and some results with his creation > > > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Clay Nichols wrote: >> Dawid Loubser is going to be the new home for most of my OM gear. >> Thank you Dawid. >> Clay Nichols >> >>>>> Dawid Loubser 08/03/09 6:10 PM >>> >> Hi Clay, >> >> >> Now, my problem is this: I love Macro, and it's most of the time very >> difficult to calculate exposure for high-magnification >> work. Were I to be the kind recipient of said OM-2, it would be the >> most modern camera I own, and would be of great use in the Macro >> (all black and white film, of course, hand printed in the dark room). >> >> The same goes for a flash unit like the T32 - I don't own any flash >> unit, and would love to get some experience with Flash photography. >> Last of all, being down here in South Africa, you can be assured that >> if I ever tire of it, there would be no shortage of a needy >> soul to pass it along to. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 03:11:37 2009 Received: (qmail 32394 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 01:11:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 01:11:36 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF79E181B1 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A79E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B45919F5BA for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:11:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EAF19F5B7 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:11:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.86]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 76037 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 01:11:30 -0000 Message-ID: <900762.65221.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cHLxXKAVM1kFc9S3NHHVtXWn5j_JivObOOUVCQNDxD9EHpkyPfvDQdqIXKPUYtjiVrDV9oh3C98bua0mZnUKhn1gcodtrvq18fitcam48FpoSwplhNop5mE0XUitR7RwT16mQ.WmrrkiGTMfUrQTu73PJtEmxNc5RNmh.FqGgRIeTgqGz35W.qYlLfyXenxLE7IK19eHJEAxRS9Yg9nTGK9W0cWHI928QmfcDbu2YfNxRNhnVwyXhusPL7ncxJYQYnfRdQ2pSLSBkuo58I8MIdkIaXtCGGeyq5tSZHuruh9UveCOrpkBs016mxs34ugat5Ns6SEYFmOmOfmnwcstqvLZFvhtIOfgEXKRmE5dMKNtrjqTOA-- Received: from [70.56.243.139] by web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:11:29 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:11:29 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7F25FC0200004E00027576@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 03:11:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f73c982281136683642 Clay, You show the spirit of the list! Well done. It is encourageing to see Olympus gear going to a good home. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK --- On Mon, 10/8/09, Clay Nichols wrote: > From: Clay Nichols > Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home > To: dawidl@solms.co.za, olympus@thomasclausen.net > Date: Monday, 10 August, 2009, 12:42 AM > Dawid Loubser is going to be the new > home for most of my OM gear. > Thank you Dawid. > Clay Nichols -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 03:33:58 2009 Received: (qmail 11760 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 01:33:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 01:33:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E45E18174 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D72E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B4219F662 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:33:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23DD19F5FD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:33:53 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7A1XneX025359 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:33:52 GMT Message-ID: <4DE1F1D2E2EE4F67BC147D7E4B8D5BAC@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <200908100027.n7A0R97M028016@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:33:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 03:33:58 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f790689509730998309 No, but I emailed him a copy, along with a photo of his cat. ;-) Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Harridge" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > > > > >> Jim Nichols wrote: >> >> Thanks for looking, Chuck. Flowers are always nice, and don't require a >> signed release. ;-) >> > > But do you have your neighbour's permission to post images of HIS flowers > on the internet ? > > ...Wayne > > Wayne Harridge > > http://lrh.structuregraphs.com > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 03:42:15 2009 Received: (qmail 27872 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 01:42:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 01:42:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051ACE1817E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB29E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A44019F6A0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:42:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D24F19F692 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:42:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ch_photo@accura.com.hk whitelisted) Received: from smtpo.ctimail.com (smtp.ctimail.com [203.186.94.58]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MAIN (119246003252.ctinets.com [119.246.3.252]) by smtpo.ctimail.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n7A1g5vH017046 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:42:05 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: From: "C.H.Ling" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <4A7CBDB1.5010703@gmail.com> <001c01ca17c9$cd201e60$67605b20$@com.au><4A7E4C4A.6060406@gmail.com> <4A7F324F.7020600@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:42:00 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 03:42:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f7af7235902517112723 I don't use filter so lens hood is the only mean for protection. The 180/2.8 and 300/4.5 I got from the pro photographer has the hood extended and taped to fix the position and he didn't use any filter on his Zuikos too. C.H.Ling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Norcutt" > And that is the most important value of many hoods. :-) > > Chuck Norcutt > > Warren Kato wrote: >> I used to have an 18mm with proper hood. But of what use is such a >> flat hood? A hat works much better. The hood did give some solace >> though in case I dropped the camera and lens. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 03:55:39 2009 Received: (qmail 9454 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 01:55:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 01:55:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604BDE181B1 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB54E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8CE34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:55:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993E434AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.88]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14294 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 01:55:31 -0000 Message-ID: <993280.14561.qm@web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ewS7VKQVM1kjK_ydRSWDSYg_BrdgfEVflTeBc0108BBos5txVVdumdjynktVxG_HcqBxrlgrLkrCZdEMbq7UzvB1KEBVq9ENsIyt52w90u1d9AK1nLOCBZiAEXqRHVsoT9.R9AP2c9f4axRlEaySA0qvX2Of0mFgTHzuXUhLY6uf1SDE1RPfydAQ.0LKiaCFaW9f0uus1gtun74Oc9nFV464Azf8wMRgjLxm0KR4AzqHFLLjlORUqx2RayrZ0gNcUl_vu7ZErnjWm39xp0.cetRNCK0hgq_eiH1nnlgI1htsOnKQQvA_QTZTM2pAnoj5cGZEYw-- Received: from [70.56.243.139] by web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:55:30 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:55:30 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Fang? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 03:55:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f7e1b117989730998309 Hi all, Had an interesting day at Colorado Springs flea market. Picked up a muzzle loading pistol kit...Shades of Walt! Now all I have to do is figure out how to legally get it into the UK. But best buys of the day had to be the 2 cameras. First camera a pristine Olympus-Pen S. This camera is unmarked with a D Zuiko f2.8 lens. Problem..Copal shutter is in need of overhaul. Speeds are off and shutter does not always close until finger is released from shutter release. Pristine Olympus 22.5mm uv filter fitted. Cost $1.00 so I could possibly spring for a repair if I could find someone. Second camera....Pristine working Pentax (Sorry :-O ) Auto 110 with f2.8 24mm lens in full working order. Cost $4.00 A good day out! Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 04:23:20 2009 Received: (qmail 7127 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 02:23:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 02:23:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF372E182AE for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA31E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6D019F88F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4CE19F85D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 25 days 06:47:29 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-71-206.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.71.206]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7A2MxRh016970 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:23:00 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7F848F.5080703@adinet.com.uy> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:23:11 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 04:23:20 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f849841035034211378 I used to do so, just because it makes more sense to leave the camera uncocked. But then I started to use Winders .... they leave the shutter cocked, you may well know. So, when one of them is loaded, shutter will be left cocked; when empty, uncocked. I have rarely missed a frame for this reason. Surprising, isn't it? I've lost frames due to different circumstances ... long stories. Fernando Ken Norton wrote: > In reality, I've rarely ever left the camera cocked for long. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 04:38:55 2009 Received: (qmail 4888 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 02:38:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 02:38:53 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C986E182B1 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C75AE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C47A19F929 for ; 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Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2236012bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:59:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.139 with SMTP id o11mr403441hba.60.1249873148777; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:59:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5c98c88c9b553c36 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 04:59:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f8d07275771342116753 A severe thunderstorm rolled through Grinnell, Iowa a couple hours ago and I couldn't refuse the opportunity to get out in it and shoot. As I've been in the midst of photographing the library before it is decommissioned, I thought that maybe it might make a good subject. I rode out the storm in my jeep just on the edge of town out in the open away from trees and power-lines. A good thing, too. Power went out as so many trees and branches got blown down that the city had to use a snow-plow to clear the streets. The rain and hail was so intense that visibility was near zero and what I could see wasn't very comforting as the power poles were swaying. I moved the jeep to keep the nose pointed into the wind as I didn't want the side windows to blow out from hail or the jeep to get rolled. One of the strongest winds I've been out in. The lightening was incredible with this storm and I haven't seen this much cloud-to-ground lightening in years. I went downtown and parked (somewhat illegally, but who cares) across the street from the library and shot through the driver's window of the jeep. It was still raining and the camera (and me) was getting drenched. Fortunately, the E-1 and 14-54 are up to the task. I had to repeatably wipe the lens off and longed for one of those new-fangled UV filters that water doesn't stick to. :) To hold the camera steady, I had it mounted to a monopod and it was jammed between the door and the seat. Plenty stable, except for the wind-gusts rocking the jeep. It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to photograph and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I didn't get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the building, but was about four seconds away. www.zone-10.com AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 05:07:12 2009 Received: (qmail 4647 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 03:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 03:07:11 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF23AE1824D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6770AE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1BE34AC003 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:07:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0C434AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:07:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17998 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 03:07:05 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 05:07:12 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f8ee065807801554290 Wow! Nice catch. The line of the center stair railing caught my eye as it almost looks like the bolt is trying to roll out the front door. It fits right in with what's been on TV tonight on the Discovery channel... continuous lightning for the past 1/2 hour. Been stormy with lightning here too but not terribly violent. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > A severe thunderstorm rolled through Grinnell, Iowa a couple hours ago and I > couldn't refuse the opportunity to get out in it and shoot. As I've been in > the midst of photographing the library before it is decommissioned, I > thought that maybe it might make a good subject. > I rode out the storm in my jeep just on the edge of town out in the open > away from trees and power-lines. A good thing, too. Power went out as so > many trees and branches got blown down that the city had to use a snow-plow > to clear the streets. The rain and hail was so intense that visibility was > near zero and what I could see wasn't very comforting as the power poles > were swaying. I moved the jeep to keep the nose pointed into the wind as I > didn't want the side windows to blow out from hail or the jeep to get > rolled. One of the strongest winds I've been out in. The lightening was > incredible with this storm and I haven't seen this much cloud-to-ground > lightening in years. > > I went downtown and parked (somewhat illegally, but who cares) across the > street from the library and shot through the driver's window of the jeep. > It was still raining and the camera (and me) was getting drenched. > Fortunately, the E-1 and 14-54 are up to the task. I had to repeatably wipe > the lens off and longed for one of those new-fangled UV filters that water > doesn't stick to. :) > > To hold the camera steady, I had it mounted to a monopod and it was jammed > between the door and the seat. Plenty stable, except for the wind-gusts > rocking the jeep. > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to photograph > and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I didn't > get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the building, but > was about four seconds away. > > www.zone-10.com > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 05:12:00 2009 Received: (qmail 12941 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 03:12:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 03:12:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90EE1822D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE05E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C0919F982 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4797819F980 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7A3Boer020281 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:11:52 GMT Message-ID: <7035513DD4CA487E934893354443AFFA@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:11:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 05:12:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f9000223859752976205 Great catch, Ken. That ought to be a keeper for your project. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Norton" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again >A severe thunderstorm rolled through Grinnell, Iowa a couple hours ago and >I > couldn't refuse the opportunity to get out in it and shoot. As I've been > in > the midst of photographing the library before it is decommissioned, I > thought that maybe it might make a good subject. > I rode out the storm in my jeep just on the edge of town out in the open > away from trees and power-lines. A good thing, too. Power went out as so > many trees and branches got blown down that the city had to use a > snow-plow > to clear the streets. The rain and hail was so intense that visibility was > near zero and what I could see wasn't very comforting as the power poles > were swaying. I moved the jeep to keep the nose pointed into the wind as I > didn't want the side windows to blow out from hail or the jeep to get > rolled. One of the strongest winds I've been out in. The lightening was > incredible with this storm and I haven't seen this much cloud-to-ground > lightening in years. > > I went downtown and parked (somewhat illegally, but who cares) across the > street from the library and shot through the driver's window of the jeep. > It was still raining and the camera (and me) was getting drenched. > Fortunately, the E-1 and 14-54 are up to the task. I had to repeatably > wipe > the lens off and longed for one of those new-fangled UV filters that water > doesn't stick to. :) > > To hold the camera steady, I had it mounted to a monopod and it was jammed > between the door and the seat. Plenty stable, except for the wind-gusts > rocking the jeep. > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to > photograph > and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I didn't > get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the building, but > was about four seconds away. > > www.zone-10.com > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 05:26:05 2009 Received: (qmail 27039 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 03:26:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 03:26:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BF6E1822D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0996E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60BF34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405FA34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.66]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 84172 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 03:25:56 -0000 Message-ID: <846697.83718.qm@web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AMbmf9gVM1n9PWsmiNgzuRVjJE1E1r2W2JJCqM1FaHC1e.tD40RuE1bRk8uaqNXI64azFCBc9Tx3egnaF9hgg9pMsYyeQIbP0d3fM_rI.e39BTjMPhhGkAnHe3inan1xZRdHsAwxgkyP_zEkYKXTVkDvE07p7m86hw0iaE32haBPtBrjIUlKKAK75LACQPBKk6hFMqZqZ3kRS5T1j.d5PWXWPZGy10Y88AbtkFrfFaJXU3x_jXhObNl.o_hN6KbORPTv0LSBhGJOFH7s132LHJqlxrR3soHB5.597YLYWV0wh5RevCRFXaF_YNAcyBtxTLLaaj3qmAZmyF_mN3.ENqNbw2uKPhmX.PDEsZuPWojlnplx1Q-- Received: from [71.186.249.65] by web39805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:25:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7F8ED8.9070900@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 05:26:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f934d59875683411216 We've had some crazy weather also. Severe T-storms running through this are= a this evening. = Great capture. = > Ken Norton wrote: > > A severe thunderstorm rolled through Grinnell, Iowa a > couple hours ago and I > > couldn't refuse the opportunity to get out in it and > shoot. As I've been in > > the midst of photographing the library before it is > decommissioned, I > > thought that maybe it might make a good subject. > > I rode out the storm in my jeep just on the edge of > town out in the open > > away from trees and power-lines.=A0 A good thing, > too.=A0 Power went out as so > > many trees and branches got blown down that the city > had to use a snow-plow > > to clear the streets. The rain and hail was so intense > that visibility was > > near zero and what I could see wasn't very comforting > as the power poles > > were swaying. I moved the jeep to keep the nose > pointed into the wind as I > > didn't want the side windows to blow out from hail or > the jeep to get > > rolled. One of the strongest winds I've been out in. > The lightening was > > incredible with this storm and I haven't seen this > much cloud-to-ground > > lightening in years. > > = > > I went downtown and parked (somewhat illegally, but > who cares) across the > > street from the library and shot through the driver's > window of the jeep. > >=A0 It was still raining and the camera (and me) was > getting drenched. > > Fortunately, the E-1 and 14-54 are up to the > task.=A0 I had to repeatably wipe > > the lens off and longed for one of those new-fangled > UV filters that water > > doesn't stick to.=A0 :) > > = > > To hold the camera steady, I had it mounted to a > monopod and it was jammed > > between the door and the seat.=A0 Plenty stable, > except for the wind-gusts > > rocking the jeep. > > = > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of > lightening to photograph > > and reflexes fast enough to get it.=A0 There were a > lot of flashes I didn't > > get, but this one I did.=A0 No, it didn't actually > strike the building, but > > was about four seconds away. > > = > > www.zone-10.com > > = > > AG > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 06:11:53 2009 Received: (qmail 9490 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 04:11:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 04:11:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98217E18191 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A46E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D80619FA60 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:11:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24CB19FA50 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (drt-3d@att.net whitelisted) Received: from fmailhost03.isp.att.net (fmailhost03.isp.att.net [204.127.217.103]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home (cpe-76-190-183-234.neo.res.rr.com[76.190.183.234]) by worldnet.att.net (frfwmhc03) with SMTP id <20090810041146H030024d4re>; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:11:47 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [76.190.183.234] Message-ID: <4CF6C8F1032845C8957BC2724BC04B52@home> From: "DrT \(George Themelis\)" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:03:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] 3D (What worked, what didn't) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 06:11:53 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7f9e09170021879814018 > Sure. Also tried with larger distance -- everything seemed like a doll's > house! However, close-ups at shorter distance made a rather poor effect. Yes, the rule of thumb is distance of lenses (cameras) = 1/30 x distance of nearest object. > Just a question... if using a (couple of) wide angle, should the distance > be > larger in order to give a natural effect? It is a difficult to answer question. You will never get a natural effect. I would go with larger distance. When you use wide angle lenses, everything becomes smaller, including the stereoscopic deviations. A larger distance of the cameras (stereo base) will increase the stereoscopic deviations to compensate. But when you look at the stereo pair, the space will appear to have expanded (in the "z-axis", i.e. perpendicular to the viewing direction). George -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 06:22:19 2009 Received: (qmail 7046 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 04:22:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 04:22:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69521E180CA for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0DFE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B3B34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:22:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384D934AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:22:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25734 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 04:22:12 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 04:22:12 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FA06E.5040007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:22:06 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <77558BA3174C40B9AB074B08223E901A@home> <4A7A1007.4050403@chucknorcutt.com> <39253A43125F44309A4AF76F06568846@home> <4A7A3B7F.1050609@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7B4E64.3030401@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7B4E64.3030401@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 06:22:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fa07b150671073733319 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > My Canyon 540EZ is a $60 BGN grade from KEH. It looks and works great! > I paid a little more for my BGN grade 540EZ. It also looks and works great. I can't imagine what value a higher grade would have been for me. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 06:27:03 2009 Received: (qmail 18267 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 04:27:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 04:27:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCD0E181AC for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4339E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9110634AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C3034AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:26:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29964 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 04:26:55 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 04:26:55 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FA18C.7050005@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:26:52 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7F62AD.30102@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7F62AD.30102@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 06:27:03 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fa19772776107113666 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Well, apparently Moose sold me a rare and exotic bird then. (thanks, Moose). You are very welcome. :-) > My OM-4 is firmly convinced he is mechanical since he still knows how to operate the shutter on "B" when the batteries are removed. :-) > As is one of those I still have. Sorry, AG, you're wrong on this one, at least for the OM-4 series. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 06:44:39 2009 Received: (qmail 19710 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 04:44:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 04:44:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635C6E18256 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4027DE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301DC19FABC for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:44:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809FB19FA61 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:44:33 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18487 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 04:44:32 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 04:44:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FA5AD.5030106@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:44:29 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> In-Reply-To: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 06:44:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fa5b7192472439112457 Jim Nichols wrote: > With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT followers bleed orange Ah yes, I was ... "involved " with a Tennessee woman who is a serious UT fan. They are pretty serious about it. The return from a UT game was when Walt's world fell apart, be careful about them. > , I thought it was appropriate to capture an image of my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get some of my own next year. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html > > Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. > > Comments and critiques welcomed. > Nice flower. But look more carefully at the image, There's a slight gray quality to the bright orange and petal detail simply disappears in the bright orange areas. It's because the red channel is pretty badly blown. -2/3 EV wasn't enough. From the histogram, I'd guess you need twice that. Moose > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 06:45:39 2009 Received: (qmail 25045 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 04:45:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 04:45:39 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDA6E1822B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31C7E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90B134AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B80534AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20692 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 04:45:33 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 04:45:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FA5EA.2060606@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:45:30 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7F37C80200004E0002757C@phgwia.palmettohealth.org> <4A7F70DF.5070307@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7F70DF.5070307@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Free to a Good Home X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 06:45:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fa5f3194541234514069 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Wow! I've never even seen them. > All you had to do was ask when you were here. :-) Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 06:54:56 2009 Received: (qmail 30184 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 04:54:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 04:54:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4761FE180CA for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAABAE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15B334AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:54:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57BF34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:54:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 724 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 04:54:50 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 04:54:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FA816.3030208@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:54:46 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 06:54:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fa820220261879814018 Ken Norton wrote: > ... > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to photograph and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I didn't get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the building, but > was about four seconds away. > > www.zone-10.com > Wonderful capture. Something is the correction isn't right. Unless my eyes are way off, there are slightly curved lines in the front of the building. Seems like something is odd about the roof, too. I see this is just a quickie done in ancient PSE 3, but the Shadow noticed. :-) I wouldn't say anything here, as I know how proud you are of your efforts to move the language forward, but thought you might have a different idea about the public face of Zone-10. There's an 'e' in the process that changed Michael Jackson's skin color, but not in the electrical storm phenomenon. A. Lightning Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:04:56 2009 Received: (qmail 26259 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:04:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:04:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4E5E18034 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDD6E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3A719FB15 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8809619FB0E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:04:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2256970bwz.14 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:04:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.2 with SMTP id k2mr418810hbc.51.1249880688013; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:04:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7FA816.3030208@gmail.com> References: <4A7FA816.3030208@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:04:47 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 629523482d69fbc3 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:04:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7faa78163171234514069 > > Something is the correction isn't right. Unless my eyes are way off, > there are slightly curved lines in the front of the building. Seems like > something is odd about the roof, too. I see this is just a quickie done > in ancient PSE 3, but the Shadow noticed. :-) > PWP, but understood. I had to do another little correction of another form in PSE3. The lines aren't quite straight. For a print, I'll be redoing it all and applying some lens correction prior to the rest of the bending. I wouldn't say anything here, as I know how proud you are of your > efforts to move the language forward, but thought you might have a > different idea about the public face of Zone-10. There's an 'e' in the > process that changed Michael Jackson's skin color, but not in the > electrical storm phenomenon. > LOL, well, if you saw how dark the original was as it was underexposed, you'd agree with my original spelling. But I did lower myself to correct it. :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:13:39 2009 Received: (qmail 13618 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:13:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DFEE18063 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6B3E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002DE34AC003 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:13:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D6534AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:13:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19551 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 05:13:31 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 05:13:31 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FAC78.6010707@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:13:28 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> <4A7EB992.4000508@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7EB992.4000508@chucknorcutt.com> Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:13:39 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fac83183931342116753 Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Yes, at least in my case, looking for green reflections as indicative of multicoating. As I recall, this was judged by some to be unreliable. But, for my own experience with my own Zuikos, I've never seen an x.Zuiko that reflects anything green (blues, reds and yellows only) and any lens I have that says "MC" or has a serial number newer than the "MC" marking period all reflect green. But I have multicoated Kirons that don't reflect green. > I wasn't here for that project. Having read some about it, I was surprised when I sat down to peer deeply into two 24/2.8 lenses, one SC, one MC. Yes indeed, there were different colors, but the most striking thing was how much dimmer the MC reflections were. That's the point, of course, but it interested me how immediately obvious it was which lens was MC without bothering to check individual reflection colors. > I suspect great caution is required here since it was reported back then that Olympus first started multicoating selected elements long before all elements were multicoated and supposedly before "MC" became an important marketing factor and placed prominently on the lens. It is probably much more important to multicoat certain interior elements to control interior reflections than it is to multicoat the front side of the front element which would only make a miniscule improvement in light transmission. > Yes, I think it's clear that there was a continuous development of MC technology during that time. Moose > Chuck Norcutt > > > Moose wrote: > > >>> >>> >> If I recall correctly, those were the days of peering deep into the lens >> looking at reflection colors. Wasn't the "MC" column to be a judgment >> based on observation of the coating themselves? Others, and I to a >> limited extent, have noticed that the coatings changed character with >> later production within both SC & MC. This may have been a late version >> of mostly single coating with a different formula and/or a multiple >> coating or two that fooled the eye. >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:18:35 2009 Received: (qmail 23221 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:18:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:18:35 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9E0E18229 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0469E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A943734AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:18:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412C534AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:18:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24D846178F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:43:10 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:18:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [OM] OT: Another problem with Photoshop X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:18:35 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fadab79631073733319 I've done it again! I have upgraded a computer without first deactivating Photoshop and now I have to contact Adobe and plead with them to deactivate a copy. But this time I moved the hard drive from the old computer to the new one, thinking that I would avoid all the problems that way; I needed the hard drive anyway as it was nearly new and it seemed daft to pay for a larger hard drive in the new machine (MacBook Pro) when I had one from the old computer. But it seems that Photoshop detects the computer so I have to re- activate bloomin' Photoshop :-( I write this so that others on the List might avoid the same mistake ... Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:22:11 2009 Received: (qmail 1945 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:22:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:22:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8F3E181AE for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16ACCE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F353719FB62 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1D119FB5A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:22:05 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D489461790 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:46:46 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <6039DBCB-9017-475C-82EB-0EACBC53C056@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) X-Priority: 3 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:22:04 +0100 References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:22:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fae8371132013633067 That's another lovelyj one, Jim. Chris On 9 Aug 2009, at 23:17, Jim Nichols wrote: > With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee > where UT followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to > capture an image of my neighbor's orange flowers. They are > collecting seed, so I hope to get some of my own next year. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html > > Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:32:17 2009 Received: (qmail 14001 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:32:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF32E181A3 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51DE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2A734AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF1B34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:32:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874B2461790 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:56:51 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:32:09 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:32:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fb0e1288164877110844 Good job, Ken! I was cycling down our street a couple of weeks ago when a spark fizzed from a thumb to the handlebars; almost simultaneously there was a flash and thunder overhead. I reckon I got off lightly ... Chris On 10 Aug 2009, at 03:59, Ken Norton wrote: > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to > photograph > and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I > didn't > get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the > building, but > was about four seconds away. > > www.zone-10.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:36:14 2009 Received: (qmail 1172 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:36:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:36:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C0AE18244 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAA3E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C313B19FBB9 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2678319FBB3 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7A5a4n4017051 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:36:06 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> <4A7FA5AD.5030106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:36:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:36:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fb1ce210681076813867 Thanks, Moose. I'll be careful. ;-) Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moose" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > Jim Nichols wrote: >> With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT >> followers bleed orange > > Ah yes, I was ... "involved " with a Tennessee woman who is a serious > UT fan. They are pretty serious about it. > > The return from a UT game was when Walt's world fell apart, be careful > about them. > >> , I thought it was appropriate to capture an image of my neighbor's >> orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get some of my own >> next year. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html >> >> Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. >> > > Nice flower. But look more carefully at the image, There's a slight gray > quality to the bright orange and petal detail simply disappears in the > bright orange areas. It's because the red channel is pretty badly blown. > -2/3 EV wasn't enough. From the histogram, I'd guess you need twice that. > > Moose > >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:40:01 2009 Received: (qmail 9636 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:40:00 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CAABE18178 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5424DE240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467A534AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:39:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BE034AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:39:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail107c26.carrierzone.com (mail107c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:39:55 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail107c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7A5dqi2017943 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:39:54 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> <6039DBCB-9017-475C-82EB-0EACBC53C056@threeshoes.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:39:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:40:01 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fb2b1309901220213263 Thanks, Chris. I just present what I find in the neighborhood. This neighbor also gives us home-grown tomatoes. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Barker" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > That's another lovelyj one, Jim. > > Chris > > On 9 Aug 2009, at 23:17, Jim Nichols wrote: > >> With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee >> where UT followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to >> capture an image of my neighbor's orange flowers. They are >> collecting seed, so I hope to get some of my own next year. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html >> >> Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 07:53:27 2009 Received: (qmail 13721 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 05:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 05:53:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6B8E18067 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5E6E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E15F34AC002 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6351A34AC001 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zux221-125-014.adsl.green.ch ([81.221.125.14]:49935 helo=ians-mac-pro.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaNou-0000fZ-W1 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:53:21 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7FB5BD.8080804@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:01 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: [OM] Week 32 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 07:53:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fb5d7119011234514069 Here you will find this weeks few fotos for fun (6 images) - I hope you enjoy at least one of them, I had to break my rule of having more than one flower shot but they are all quite different. Ianw wishing you a good start to the week. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 08:04:18 2009 Received: (qmail 24048 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 06:04:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 06:04:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BFFE180CA for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B85E240C0 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1A519F9DD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD0C19EB25 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:04:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 25 days 10:28:29 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-7-25.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.7.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7A63wRi028332; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:03:59 -0300 Message-ID: <4A7FB85A.3040707@adinet.com.uy> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:04:10 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Cc: "Carlos J. Santisteban Salinas" Subject: Re: [OM] OM 4Ti Fang was: This looks like a deal X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 08:04:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fb862230096789618724 Just checked the plain 4 @ 3200: 4 sec. Seems that specs say 1 minute at iso100. Shall continue tomorrow, or on Tuesday. Fernando. Carlos J. Santisteban wrote: > Is this the expected behaviour? IIRC, my old 4 had a non-linear behaviour: > if exposure was going over a few seconds (can't recall the film speed) it > went all the way to about 2 min. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 09:44:50 2009 Received: (qmail 18628 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 07:44:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 07:44:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE92E180B5 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B822E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648DB19DCB4 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2DB19DC81 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com whitelisted) Received: from cl39.gs02.gridserver.com (cl39.gs02.gridserver.com [64.13.232.48]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool-71-97-157-221.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.97.157.221]:59478 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by cl39.gs02.gridserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MaPYd-0004o0-BT for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:41 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:44:41 -0400 From: Chris Crawford To: Olympus Camera Discussion Message-ID: Thread-Topic: A stereo camera for Dr. T Thread-Index: AcoZjmtQqaSWuIWBEd6xlgAKlchBUg== Mime-version: 1.0 X-Authenticated-User: 24476 chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com Subject: [OM] A stereo camera for Dr. T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 09:44:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fcff231102517112723 http://cgi.ebay.com/HOLGA-120-3D-Pinhole-Stereo-Camera-Package-120PC-3D_W0QQ itemZ170368556901QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFilm_Cameras?hash=item27aac1df65&_trksid =p3286.c0.m14#ht_3553wt_1167 This actually looks cool! -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-747-5101 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 09:45:40 2009 Received: (qmail 7183 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 07:45:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 07:45:38 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D639AE18191 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF78FE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F2619DCB4 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB31619DC81 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net (amenworld-outbound-smtp00.mail.eu.clara.net [195.8.64.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.red-81-35-77.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.35.77.63]:52038 helo=[192.168.1.34]) by relay00.mail.eu.clara.net (smtp-vh.amenworld.com [213.253.3.40]:11587) with esmtpa (authdaemon_plain:nw0640@frozenlight.eu) id 1MaPYn-0005bo-0w (Exim 4.69) (return-path ); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:44:50 +0000 Message-Id: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> From: Nathan Wajsman To: Leica Users Group , leica@freelists.org, Olympus Camera Discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:44:47 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 09:45:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fd024276709730998309 This really is the middle of the summer. The pictures this week are a varied bunch, like the week before. There are some arid landscapes, cute animals, the beach, women of various ages (with their consent for the most part) and some two-wheeled traffic. It is all here: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=275 And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 10:46:16 2009 Received: (qmail 18116 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 08:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 08:46:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75627E1824E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8C6E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F244519DE3F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:46:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD80019DE38 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:46:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:11134 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaQW9-0005MI-75 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:46:09 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7FDE4C.4040202@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:46:04 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> In-Reply-To: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 10:46:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fde58182721413256596 My favourite this week is alternate 3, thanks for sharing On 10/08/2009 09:44, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > This really is the middle of the summer. The pictures this week are a > varied bunch, like the week before. There are some arid landscapes, > cute animals, the beach, women of various ages (with their consent for > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 10:52:47 2009 Received: (qmail 8849 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 08:52:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 08:52:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9046E18196 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A03E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826D319DE8B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD0319DE38 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:11585 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaQcQ-0006ao-UX for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:52:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7FDFD3.3010003@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:52:35 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> In-Reply-To: X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 10:52:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fdfdf75831234514069 oops sorry I thought I had checked that, I also thought I had no problem finding a raw convertor for cs2 at the time, but I upgraded from cs2 to cs4 ( I wanted the photomerge option, even though I can't find the time to play with it at the moment). If there is really is no support for earlier cameras then I will not be giving adobe any more of my money. On 09/08/2009 10:04, C.H.Ling wrote: > It is not compatible with CS2. > > C.H.Ling > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 11:21:19 2009 Received: (qmail 14514 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 09:21:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 09:21:18 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECFDE182AF for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7EFE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:21:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE9319DF40 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:21:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E8819DF3D for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:21:13 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13212 invoked by uid 502); 10 Aug 2009 09:21:11 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 11:21:19 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fe68f129692013633067 SwissPace wrote: > ... > > If there is really is no support for earlier cameras then I will not be giving adobe any more of my money. > Did you get that right? I don't believe ACR has dropped any old formats. However, Adobe don't go back and add new RAW formats to older releases of the PS products. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 11:34:54 2009 Received: (qmail 15727 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 09:34:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 09:34:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0F0E18247 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A9DE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E9519DF7E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5442519DF72 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so730976fgg.13 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.66.12 with SMTP id o12mr3041090fga.69.1249896887914; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:34:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7CEF7B.5030409@interisland.net> References: <4A7CEF7B.5030409@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:34:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b0a291527392442f Message-ID: <9f07ac840908100234n21e73e7dm53869142ae245bda@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t eats batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 11:34:54 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fe9be33071612113968 You're definitely using silver-oxide types? Jez On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > My OM4t has been eating batteries. It started while on our recent trip > to the Oregon coast. I went through all my spares which I'd had. For a > while I thought maybe they were just too old but then I ate through a > couple fresh packs bought along the way. The batteries discharge very > quickly. Only able to take a few pics before the dreaded locked up > shutter. Did I fry something? The batteries didn't appear to be warm > when I pulled them right after the lock up. Sure would hate to lose this > one as it is my favorite body. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 11:51:51 2009 Received: (qmail 5052 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 09:51:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 09:51:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45272E18177 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7A7E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A9719E038 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEA419E006 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2568577fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.92.13 with SMTP id p13mr3049927fgb.43.1249897901493; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7F05AD.7070806@tx.rr.com> References: <4A7F05AD.7070806@tx.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:51:41 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2866a349e3720488 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908100251p32f3f7b9md1574a9cc007a12@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 11:51:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7fedb7198381234514069 Or your regular cobbler - they replace zips on thigh-high leather boots... (well, any length boots really, but my mind wandered...) Jez On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Steve & Alicia Goss < dallasgossfamily@tx.rr.com> wrote: > Ken- > There may be life in that old camera bag yet. > look around for a tailor shop that can handle heavy fabric and see if > they will put in a new zipper. > > I got the upper pocket on my NovaPro Nova 5 fixed for $15 that way. > > Thanks, Steve Goss, Dallas tx usa > > Ken Norton wrote: > > Rest in Peace, buddy. We've been through a lot together, you and me. > Even > > if your name has always made my skin crawl, I've always respected you > > ability to hold your own. But, alas, the time comes when age and the > miles > > of life catch up to us and you've lost the ability to keep it together. > > > > Last night, when I picked you up and the cameras tumbled forth, that was > > it. I knew your days were done. Fortunately, they fell only inches to > the > > floor of the Jeep and not from my shoulder to the concrete driveway. > > > > Our journeys together are now done. You will be fondly remembered, and > > possibly replaced by a brand-new clone of yourself. > > > > The one trip together I shall not forget is our week on Isle Royale. > Poor > > thing, you were stuffed to the gills and even had to carry a bottle of > water > > too! But as humble as we were, we made great pictures together. While the > > others were packing bags twice your size, we efficiently and easily hiked > > past them. The canoe incident proved that you were by no means > waterproof, > > but even that soaking you came through with your colors intact. > > > > Your zipper has failed. The one design weakness has caught up to you. > Had > > it been designed even slightly differently, you may have worked for years > to > > come. I knew there was some reason why I didn't take you to > Colorado--that > > Interloper, the SlingShot guy had taken your place, but he was never as > > usable or comfortable to carry as you. > > > > You were a bargain, an absolute steal in the world of photographic > > equipment. Others, like you cost much, much more and are substantially > > heavier. You did your part, you performed well. > > > > Last night, I was saddened, but not angry. I couldn't bear to place you > in > > the trash bin yet. Maybe you can keep stuff on the shelf safe and work, > I > > don't know. But you shall never be used again to carry equipment--that > > zipper, just won't hold together. > > > > Canon 200EG Camera Backpack - Rest in peace, buddy. You really were the > > best bag I've ever had. > > > > AG Schnozz > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 12:28:51 2009 Received: (qmail 20419 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 10:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:28:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A312EE182B0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA52E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819FE34AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E78734AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32540 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 10:28:43 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 10:28:43 -0000 Message-ID: <4A7FF65B.2010203@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:43 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> <4A7EB992.4000508@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7FAC78.6010707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7FAC78.6010707@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 12:28:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ff663173861879814018 But does that comparison of MC vs non-MC work between lenses of different focal length? Few of us have two 24/2.8s. :-) Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > Chuck Norcutt wrote: >> Yes, at least in my case, looking for green reflections as indicative of multicoating. As I recall, this was judged by some to be unreliable. But, for my own experience with my own Zuikos, I've never seen an x.Zuiko that reflects anything green (blues, reds and yellows only) and any lens I have that says "MC" or has a serial number newer than the "MC" marking period all reflect green. But I have multicoated Kirons that don't reflect green. >> > > I wasn't here for that project. Having read some about it, I was > surprised when I sat down to peer deeply into two 24/2.8 lenses, one SC, > one MC. Yes indeed, there were different colors, but the most striking > thing was how much dimmer the MC reflections were. That's the point, of > course, but it interested me how immediately obvious it was which lens > was MC without bothering to check individual reflection colors. > >> I suspect great caution is required here since it was reported back then that Olympus first started multicoating selected elements long before all elements were multicoated and supposedly before "MC" became an important marketing factor and placed prominently on the lens. It is probably much more important to multicoat certain interior elements to control interior reflections than it is to multicoat the front side of the front element which would only make a miniscule improvement in light transmission. >> > > Yes, I think it's clear that there was a continuous development of MC > technology during that time. > > Moose >> Chuck Norcutt >> >> >> Moose wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>> >>> If I recall correctly, those were the days of peering deep into the lens >>> looking at reflection colors. Wasn't the "MC" column to be a judgment >>> based on observation of the coating themselves? Others, and I to a >>> limited extent, have noticed that the coatings changed character with >>> later production within both SC & MC. This may have been a late version >>> of mostly single coating with a different formula and/or a multiple >>> coating or two that fooled the eye. >>> > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 12:34:14 2009 Received: (qmail 17939 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 10:34:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:34:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AF3E18191 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB8DE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5C619DE80 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD6019DCB9 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:34:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3950 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 10:34:08 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Another problem with Photoshop X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 12:34:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ff7a6226469730998309 What is the proper procedure? Call ahead of time to have the current copy deactivated, or, do you literally have to uninstall and re-install? Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > I've done it again! > > I have upgraded a computer without first deactivating Photoshop and > now I have to contact Adobe and plead with them to deactivate a copy. > > But this time I moved the hard drive from the old computer to the new > one, thinking that I would avoid all the problems that way; I needed > the hard drive anyway as it was nearly new and it seemed daft to pay > for a larger hard drive in the new machine (MacBook Pro) when I had > one from the old computer. > > But it seems that Photoshop detects the computer so I have to re- > activate bloomin' Photoshop :-( > > I write this so that others on the List might avoid the same mistake ... > > Chris -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 12:36:26 2009 Received: (qmail 32064 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 10:36:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:36:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDA1E18327 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBA9E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346ED34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1098434AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:25520 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaSEg-0001fp-QO for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:36:16 -0500 Message-ID: <4A7FF819.8090108@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:36:09 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> <4A7FDFD3.3010003@picturepedia.org> <4A7FE681.4050001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7FE681.4050001@gmail.com> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 12:36:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ff82a46581950411718 Ok I didn't get it fully right but it is Monday Morning ;-) as for the cs2 and olympus E-3 I now vaguely remember that I had to hack a file in photoshop to let it think it was procecessing an E-5xx (can't remember which) orf file and not E-3, trickier to do than I originally thought and I wasn't fully happy with the process so I used the DNG convertor and aperture until aperture got updated to recognise E-3 ORF's. IanW > Did you get that right? I don't believe ACR has dropped any old formats. > However, Adobe don't go back and add new RAW formats to older releases > of the PS products. > > Moose > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 12:39:44 2009 Received: (qmail 12712 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 10:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:39:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8234EE18177 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B818E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714C819E15C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CA919E150 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7298 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 10:39:35 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 12:39:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ff8ef241509730998309 Yikes! That must have been unnerving. I know a guy who survived a nearby lightning strike but it still took him 3 months to recover. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Good job, Ken! > > I was cycling down our street a couple of weeks ago when a spark > fizzed from a thumb to the handlebars; almost simultaneously there was > a flash and thunder overhead. I reckon I got off lightly ... > > Chris > > On 10 Aug 2009, at 03:59, Ken Norton wrote: > >> It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to >> photograph >> and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I >> didn't >> get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the >> building, but >> was about four seconds away. >> >> www.zone-10.com > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 12:46:02 2009 Received: (qmail 4615 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 10:46:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:46:01 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF29BE18066 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE98E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CF934AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F92F34AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11682 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 10:45:56 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Week 32 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 12:46:02 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ffa6a84161413256596 I like "crowded light" best. Compositionally, "when I grow up..." doesn't make it for me. I suppose it's because I view the flower head as a face. It should have been on the other side of the frame so that it's looking into the picture rather than out of it. Chuck Norcutt SwissPace wrote: > Here you will find this weeks few fotos for fun (6 images) - I hope you > enjoy at least one of them, I had to break my rule of having more than > one flower shot but they are all quite different. > > > > > Ianw wishing you a good start to the week. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 12:58:11 2009 Received: (qmail 14879 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 10:58:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:58:10 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6F3E1806A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51F0E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D734AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:58:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AC234AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:58:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19650 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 10:58:05 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] A stereo camera for Dr. T X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 12:58:11 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a7ffd43228521136683642 The camera's exposure guide printed on the back is properly labeled ISO 400/27. But the ad itself states: ASA 100/ISO 21 or ASA 400/ISO 27. Not erroneous but strange. Chuck Norcutt Chris Crawford wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/HOLGA-120-3D-Pinhole-Stereo-Camera-Package-120PC-3D_W0QQ > itemZ170368556901QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFilm_Cameras?hash=item27aac1df65&_trksid > =p3286.c0.m14#ht_3553wt_1167 > > This actually looks cool! > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 13:12:45 2009 Received: (qmail 27104 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 11:12:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 11:12:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C7E181B2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDEFE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C963634AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:12:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C470D34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wiliam@online.nl whitelisted) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (smtp05.online.nl [194.134.41.35]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp05.online.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6745221A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wiliam (s5592a9e4.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.146.169.228]) by smtp05.online.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:12:37 +0200 (CEST) From: "Wiliam Wagenaar" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:12:36 +0200 Message-ID: <73809181E8A64A1DAEC03BCE0352F3B5@wiliam> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Online-Scanned: by Cloudmark authority (on smtp05.online.nl) Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 13:12:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8000ac24561744846740 Great work Ken. God you got it and it did not get you :-) Wiliam > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@zone-10.com] > Verzonden: maandag 10 augustus 2009 4:59 > Aan: Olympus Camera Discussion > Onderwerp: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again > > > A severe thunderstorm rolled through Grinnell, Iowa a couple > hours ago and I couldn't refuse the opportunity to get out in > it and shoot. As I've been in the midst of photographing the > library before it is decommissioned, I thought that maybe it > might make a good subject. I rode out the storm in my jeep > just on the edge of town out in the open away from trees and > power-lines. A good thing, too. Power went out as so many > trees and branches got blown down that the city had to use a > snow-plow to clear the streets. The rain and hail was so > intense that visibility was near zero and what I could see > wasn't very comforting as the power poles were swaying. I > moved the jeep to keep the nose pointed into the wind as I > didn't want the side windows to blow out from hail or the > jeep to get rolled. One of the strongest winds I've been out > in. The lightening was incredible with this storm and I > haven't seen this much cloud-to-ground lightening in years. > > I went downtown and parked (somewhat illegally, but who > cares) across the street from the library and shot through > the driver's window of the jeep. It was still raining and > the camera (and me) was getting drenched. Fortunately, the > E-1 and 14-54 are up to the task. I had to repeatably wipe > the lens off and longed for one of those new-fangled UV > filters that water doesn't stick to. :) > > To hold the camera steady, I had it mounted to a monopod and > it was jammed between the door and the seat. Plenty stable, > except for the wind-gusts rocking the jeep. > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of > lightening to photograph and reflexes fast enough to get it. > There were a lot of flashes I didn't get, but this one I did. > No, it didn't actually strike the building, but was about > four seconds away. > www.zone-10.com AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.47/2290 - Release Date: 08/09/09 08:08:00 -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 13:14:52 2009 Received: (qmail 837 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 11:14:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 11:14:52 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C86E18069 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9747FE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4ED34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:14:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C989834AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31383 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 11:14:45 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 13:14:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80012c311204877110844 I like Cheeta shopping for fruit and both shots of Bea. But Bea is in bad need of some shadow control. Chuck Norcutt Nathan Wajsman wrote: > This really is the middle of the summer. The pictures this week are a > varied bunch, like the week before. There are some arid landscapes, > cute animals, the beach, women of various ages (with their consent for > the most part) and some two-wheeled traffic. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=275 > > And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 13:17:56 2009 Received: (qmail 17632 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 11:17:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C934E1817A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E8E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4650434AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:17:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC42C34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:17:50 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1046 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 11:17:50 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 11:17:50 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8001DD.5030905@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:49 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> <4A7FDFD3.3010003@picturepedia.org> <4A7FE681.4050001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7FE681.4050001@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 13:17:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8001e484339752976205 I wonder if ACR as released in PSE will run under PS. PSE can provide the low cost upgrade for ACR. Chuck Norcutt Moose wrote: > SwissPace wrote: >> ... >> >> If there is really is no support for earlier cameras then I will not be giving adobe any more of my money. >> > > Did you get that right? I don't believe ACR has dropped any old formats. > However, Adobe don't go back and add new RAW formats to older releases > of the PS products. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 13:24:17 2009 Received: (qmail 7500 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 11:24:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 11:24:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8ECE1824E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72671E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516F819E246 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:24:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B0019E22D for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:24:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4932 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 11:24:09 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t eats batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 13:24:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a800361117896107113666 Even alkalines shouldn't be drained after a few shots. My experience with my 2s (which is what led me to this list) is that alkalines lasted about 6 weeks vs 6 months or better for silver. Hopefully, JH will catch up on his list mail shortly and answer this one. Chuck Norcutt Jez Cunningham wrote: > You're definitely using silver-oxide types? > Jez > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > >> My OM4t has been eating batteries. It started while on our recent trip >> to the Oregon coast. I went through all my spares which I'd had. For a >> while I thought maybe they were just too old but then I ate through a >> couple fresh packs bought along the way. The batteries discharge very >> quickly. Only able to take a few pics before the dreaded locked up >> shutter. Did I fry something? The batteries didn't appear to be warm >> when I pulled them right after the lock up. Sure would hate to lose this >> one as it is my favorite body. >> >> Mike >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 13:48:29 2009 Received: (qmail 4343 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 11:48:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 11:48:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C445E1806F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292C1E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC20034AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:48:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D9434AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:48:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:35159 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaTMW-0005EI-67 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: <4A800902.6070003@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:48:18 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 13:48:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80090d200661357919056 nice shot Ken! , Chris, I am guessing one of the safest places to be during a thunderstorm is in an all aluminium macbook pro - I am glad I went for the largest version ;-) > I was cycling down our street a couple of weeks ago when a spark > fizzed from a thumb to the handlebars; almost simultaneously there was > > >> It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 13:51:18 2009 Received: (qmail 6642 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 11:51:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 11:51:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDDEE180B8 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8860E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8DD34AC005 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:51:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB60934AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:51:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ian@picturepedia.org whitelisted) Received: from esc124.midphase.com (esc124.midphase.com [67.228.235.93]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.bbp.ch ([193.73.134.253]:35432 helo=ian-wilcoxs-mac-mini.local) by esc124.midphase.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaTPD-0005fX-D2 for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:51:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4A8009AB.8070209@picturepedia.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:51:07 +0200 From: SwissPace User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7FB5BD.8080804@picturepedia.org> <4A7FFA64.5090207@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A7FFA64.5090207@chucknorcutt.com> X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc124.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - thomasclausen.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - picturepedia.org Subject: Re: [OM] Week 32 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 13:51:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8009b6127341234514069 Thanks for looking, I am guessing someone with photoshops skills in excess of mine could fix that composition problem ;-) On 10/08/2009 12:45, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > I like "crowded light" best. Compositionally, "when I grow up..." > doesn't make it for me. I suppose it's because I view the flower head > as a face. It should have been on the other side of the frame so that > it's looking into the picture rather than out of it. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:02:24 2009 Received: (qmail 1553 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 12:02:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 12:02:23 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76B0E18178 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB54E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FDE34AC004 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:02:24 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a800c50202171342116753 If used regularly, camera should be ready for that next fine shot. if storing (?) it should be uncocked or given away to a needy OM user. ;-) ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html SwissPace wrote: > I can't remember but I know it will have been discussed before I joined > the list but with all this talk of the special 3Ti I feel I owe it to > the community to look after it properly and wonder should I leave my > shutter cocked or uncocked in between use -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:22:06 2009 Received: (qmail 1671 invoked by uid 0); 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X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:22:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8010ee32921234514069 To anyone with internet know-how: who do you complain to when a website is committing fraud? ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html John Hermanson wrote: > Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. > I can't believe that site is still up and taking money! > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > Jez Cunningham wrote: >> Warning - don't use www.sr44.com - site accepts orders and payments but is >> out of business - I had to file a PayPal claim to get my $$ back. >> >> Microbattery.com seem to be the right guys to use now. >> >> Jez >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, wrote: >> >>> Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain >>> 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has >>> formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid >>> 357/303's seem to do fine, >>> but I like the ones below for my 4T. >>> >>> Mike (student of Dr. Battery) >>> >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which >>> were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready >>> changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill >>> the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they >>> still work AFAIK) >>> >>> IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I >>> believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall >>> that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. >>> >>> -- >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>> >>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:23:56 2009 Received: (qmail 4532 invoked by uid 0); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:23:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80115c157371342116753 I remember the senior Japanese VP (who all the Japanese techs were afraid of) was quite annoyed that I approached Mr. Maitani but was assured later that everything was okay. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Chuck Norcutt wrote: > And I was not terribly surprised to see your own quote there... one > you've mentioned here I think more than once. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > John Hermanson wrote: >> http://zuikography.com/?p=108 >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:29:47 2009 Received: (qmail 32753 invoked by uid 0); 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Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.240]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO500DR8UPAVAA5@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A8012B3.9030006@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:29:39 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> In-reply-to: <4A7C9CEC.3060704@eso.org> Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:29:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8012bb37896107113666 Get the aftermarket ring and have it machined to fit properly. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Olaf Iwert wrote: > Dear all, > > Is there anyone out there who could supply me with a (brandnew) step up > ring for an OM System Zuiko 18mm lens ? > > If noone has a hardware part, it would be very instructive to get a > drawing of this part in order to verify how one could build one..... > > The second Iwert on the list -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:30:40 2009 Received: (qmail 611 invoked by uid 0); 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Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so4135761yxe.22 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:30:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.53.19 with SMTP id b19mr8297694yba.12.1249907405749; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:30:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> References: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:30:05 -0500 Message-ID: <9e908c1f0908100530j696aa01fm4c87af75a20014de@mail.gmail.com> From: Joel Wilcox To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:30:40 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8012f0186099752976205 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > This really is the middle of the summer. The pictures this week are a > varied bunch, like the week before. There are some arid landscapes, > cute animals, the beach, women of various ages (with their consent for > the most part) and some two-wheeled traffic. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=275 I enjoyed the tiny little senorita. Joel W. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:38:56 2009 Received: (qmail 9728 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 12:38:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 12:38:54 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28225E181B1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C5FE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC5134AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217A734AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.240]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO500LCGV4ESOJ5@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:38:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A8014D2.8010005@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:38:42 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8964265.10561249635537292.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <3424107.10661249643003703.JavaMail.root@mogli.solms.co.za> <4A7CB5B4.2090703@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <4A7CB5B4.2090703@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OM] To OM2000 or not to OM2000 [was Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? and: OM-1m??] X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:38:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8014e0254161006886880 and metal body casting (with plastic skin). The Cosina badged body was a plastic casting. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Moose wrote: > Dawid Loubser wrote: >> OM-2000? Never! I do appreciate finely-crafted instruments, thank you :-) >> > > Have you ever seen/handled/used one? It's clearly not a true OM, but > neither is it cheesy feeling. A nice, solid feeling little body. It has > features that are either unique or unique combined in one body, within > OMdom. > > 1. All mechanical. Battery is only for light meter. > > 2. Full mirror-aperture pre-fire. 1 & 2 together are unique in a useful way. > > 3. Adjustable delay, mechanical self-timer. Important as it means only a > 3-4 sec. minimum wait for pre-fire vs. fixed 12 sec. on OM-2Sp and OM-4 > series. You can actually activate and use it for vibration control about > as quickly than the mechanical aperture/mirror lock-up mechanism on a > Nikon F2, depending on your manual dexterity. 2 & 3 together are unique > in a useful way. > > 4. 1/2000 shutter speed > > 5. 1/125 flash sync. Fastest of any OM and twice that of the non AF bodies. > > 6. Truly unique - It's the only OM mount body ever to feature perfectly > registered multiple exposures without pain. On all other OMs, one must > wind the film tight with the rewind crank and hold that, while > activating the rewind lever or button and cocking the shutter with the > advance lever. It's a high dexterity dance with minimal chance of > complete success. Too much tension and the film moves back, too little > and it moves forward. The OM2000 has a little lever that decouples the > wind lever from the film advance mechanism, allowing the shutter to cock > with no film movement at all. > > There are a few uses for which it is the best OM mount film body. > > Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:43:51 2009 Received: (qmail 7309 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 12:43:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 12:43:50 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A627FE18057 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D288E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1364434AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:43:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3F934AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:43:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.240]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO500HQPVCPUIL2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:43:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A8015FD.3090305@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:43:41 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7CEF7B.5030409@interisland.net> In-reply-to: <4A7CEF7B.5030409@interisland.net> Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t eats batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:43:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a801606288781220213263 Make sure the camera bottom cover screws are tight. Are the batteries really dead or does the camera lock up for some other reason? ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Mike Lazzari wrote: > My OM4t has been eating batteries. It started while on our recent trip > to the Oregon coast. I went through all my spares which I'd had. For a > while I thought maybe they were just too old but then I ate through a > couple fresh packs bought along the way. The batteries discharge very > quickly. Only able to take a few pics before the dreaded locked up > shutter. Did I fry something? The batteries didn't appear to be warm > when I pulled them right after the lock up. Sure would hate to lose this > one as it is my favorite body. > > Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 14:57:57 2009 Received: (qmail 8254 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 12:57:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 12:57:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A89E18063 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3C1E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA65719E4A0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EC019E499 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7040 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 12:57:51 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) 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(VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 14:57:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80195556931234514069 Ah! An answer right down the middle! :-) Chuck Norcutt John Hermanson wrote: > If used regularly, camera should be ready for that next fine shot. if > storing (?) it should be uncocked or given away to a needy OM user. ;-) > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > SwissPace wrote: >> I can't remember but I know it will have been discussed before I joined >> the list but with all this talk of the special 3Ti I feel I owe it to >> the community to look after it properly and wonder should I leave my >> shutter cocked or uncocked in between use -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:02:59 2009 Received: (qmail 28893 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:02:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:02:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EECEE182AE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6796DE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D4834AC00B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF3034AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11912 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 13:02:41 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 13:02:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4A801A70.6090408@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:02:40 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> <4A8010D8.3010804@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4A8010D8.3010804@verizon.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090809-0, 08/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:02:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a801a8362931560218263 Perhaps chase down the ownership of the site and find out where he lives and pursue it with local authorities. Chuck Norcutt John Hermanson wrote: > To anyone with internet know-how: who do you complain to when a website > is committing fraud? > ___________________________________ > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > John Hermanson wrote: >> Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. >> I can't believe that site is still up and taking money! >> ___________________________________ >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html >> >> >> Jez Cunningham wrote: >>> Warning - don't use www.sr44.com - site accepts orders and payments but is >>> out of business - I had to file a PayPal claim to get my $$ back. >>> >>> Microbattery.com seem to be the right guys to use now. >>> >>> Jez >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain >>>> 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has >>>> formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid >>>> 357/303's seem to do fine, >>>> but I like the ones below for my 4T. >>>> >>>> Mike (student of Dr. Battery) >>>> >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which >>>> were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready >>>> changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill >>>> the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they >>>> still work AFAIK) >>>> >>>> IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I >>>> believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall >>>> that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >>>> >>>> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:17:41 2009 Received: (qmail 21878 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:17:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9975E182AD for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F79E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0981E34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD2534AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2425674bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.175.146 with SMTP id n18mr436571hbf.16.1249910254120; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:17:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9f07ac840908100251p32f3f7b9md1574a9cc007a12@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A7F05AD.7070806@tx.rr.com> <9f07ac840908100251p32f3f7b9md1574a9cc007a12@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:17:34 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c78a528b52df2148 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:17:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a801df592081744846740 I'm not sure I really want to spend any money on the 200EG bag. When I can buy a replacement for $35, it makes replacing the zipper on a bag with other worn-out patches not too wise of a decision. The bag is wearing out in other areas too, and the foam outer protection is pretty thin. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:18:30 2009 Received: (qmail 23381 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:18:30 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90211E18064 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F21E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A368A19E596 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC2919E5A1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:18:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7ADHtB4001964 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:17:55 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bd0.5a39ce81 (39329) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:18:30 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Fang? 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Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:27:52 2009 Received: (qmail 8265 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:27:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D606EE18228 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A907BE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9970F19E608 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2795519E602 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7ADRema019510 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:27:40 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.d24.509ce8aa (39329) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:14 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:27:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802058267921006886880 Did you try asking Canon to replace/repair it? Bill Barber In a message dated 8/10/2009 8:17:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: I'm not sure I really want to spend any money on the 200EG bag. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:33:30 2009 Received: (qmail 9841 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:33:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:33:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC5E1807A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAA8E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F26B19E62B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE2719E62A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:33:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7ADXFdF001445 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:33:15 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.cb8.523d3523 (39329) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:33:13 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:33:52 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:33:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8021aa139612013633067 In a message dated 8/9/2009 4:23:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, zuiko21@gmail.com writes: Speaking of Fangs... I got recently you-know-where a (certainly brassed, right) 4Ti for EUR 106.79 -- about US$150. The test roll came out perfectly and everything seems in working order. Does it qualify as a fang? I can't speak for Doris, however I'd say you got a decent deal. She might have been more excited if she got it in a garage sale box with a 24mm shift for $10. We all got a good deal because it is another film camera that will remain in use and help to continue the demand for film in the pixel crazy world.<{B^) Bill Barber -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:40:50 2009 Received: (qmail 15634 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:40:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:40:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA5DE181A3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03DCE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A827234AC008 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1005034AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (piers@hemy.org whitelisted) Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk (c.painless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.30.53]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 230.26.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.26.230] helo=your9ya3hf92n3) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MaV7D-0001Pe-4S for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:40:43 +0100 From: "Piers Hemy" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoX5WQ6ol2YFxFcQuC9WdHc4ivO6gB2qRiQ X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090809-0, 09/08/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:40:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802362270161006886880 ID 46.0mm on my original "made in France" ring - no good. Piers -----Original Message----- From: Ken Norton [mailto:ken@zone-10.com] Sent: 08 August 2009 06:02 To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re: [OM] Step-up ring Zuiko 18mm lens OM System What if you took a Cokin adaptor ring and glued a large step ring to that? The Cokin rings are a bit thin. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:43:04 2009 Received: (qmail 32404 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:43:03 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9449E18067 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E2CE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF4534AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:42:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8356B34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:42:58 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2689227fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.163.146 with SMTP id p18mr444593hbd.52.1249911777168; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:42:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:42:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 812e83cddaff2e84 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:43:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8023e8154191073733319 > > Did you try asking Canon to replace/repair it? Bill Barber > Not yet. There was this little thing called a "weekend". :) AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:43:59 2009 Received: (qmail 758 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:43:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0445E1817A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34574E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BE119E6A3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925E919E69C for ; 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Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2690846fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:44:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.2 with SMTP id k2mr462198hbc.51.1249911884148; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:44:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A800C3E.2030806@verizon.net> References: <357559.673.qm@web86009.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <4A7B47EB.7080304@gmail.com> <4A7B5475.8040406@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7BFC7B.602@gmail.com> <4A7C236A.9010502@picturepedia.org> <4A800C3E.2030806@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:44:44 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 998732f335be0007 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM shutter Cocked or Uncocked X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:44:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802452214741357919056 > > If used regularly, camera should be ready for that next fine shot. if > storing (?) it should be uncocked or given away to a needy OM user. ;-) > Perfect answer. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 15:52:57 2009 Received: (qmail 15443 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 13:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 13:52:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA9FE1822C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71F0E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36CF34AC008 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D26134AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2447050bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.16 with SMTP id b16mr443434hbc.50.1249912363713; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:52:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7FE681.4050001@gmail.com> References: <4A7E7211.4060608@picturepedia.org> <4A7E7419.7070806@picturepedia.org> <4A7FDFD3.3010003@picturepedia.org> <4A7FE681.4050001@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:52:43 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ba3331e5d575f667 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 15:52:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802639242481744846740 > > Did you get that right? I don't believe ACR has dropped any old formats. > However, Adobe don't go back and add new RAW formats to older releases > of the PS products. > My problem is that Adobe ties ACR into the version of Photoshop. If you want the latest version of ACR, you have to buy the latest version of Photoshop. I vote with my wallet. The only version of Photoshop I have was a freebee PSE which was included with my Wacom tablet. Frankly, with the exception of a couple minor editing features, I find that PWP runs circles around Photoshop in most every way, but I keep PSE loaded for just those one-off editing things that it does better. When it comes to the RAW conversions themselves, Olympus Studio2 out-converts ACR every day of the week--especially for E-3 files. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:00:37 2009 Received: (qmail 14979 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:00:37 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6BEE1806B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22467E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAFA19E71E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:00:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA6D19E718 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:00:32 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7AE0U4T024744 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:00:30 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.bc6.4da8e197 (39329) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:00:27 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:01:05 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:00:37 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802805169531342116753 Email=24/7. Bill Barber In a message dated 8/10/2009 8:43:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: Not yet. There was this little thing called a "weekend". :) -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:06:47 2009 Received: (qmail 1095 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:06:46 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6EE1817E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD478E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D380C34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E408B34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2455377bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.51.18 with SMTP id b18mr2219289bkg.9.1249913198803; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:06:38 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908100706l73217340r441cdf56c3f42370@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:06:47 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802977157581220213263 Very nice Jim. My Dad used to grow a lot of those: Cosmo? Charlie On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Jim Nichols wrote: > With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT > followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an image of > my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get > some of my own next year. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html > > Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. > > Comments and critiques welcomed. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:11:05 2009 Received: (qmail 17632 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:11:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:11:05 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480D6E18191 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C1AE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8F219E768 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23D719E776 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2457903bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:10:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.8 with SMTP id k8mr35120bkq.25.1249913458417; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:10:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> References: <9BED5616D6754EC793FEF123480774B9@home> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:10:57 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908100710j64bdf714i2343a36ea44b9a07@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:11:05 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802a7913029730998309 DrT, KEH has one here: < http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductList.aspx?Mode=&item=20&ActivateTOC2=&ID=27&BC=OM&BCC=1&CC=6&CCC=2&BCL=&GBC=&GCC => Charlie On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, DrT (George Themelis) wrote: > Why is the 35mm f2.8 Zuiko lens harder to find than the 28mm? I have > already bought several 28mm lenses but no 35mm. > > Does anyone have one to sell (I need a matched pair) at a reasonable price? > For me 35mm is the most versatile all-around focal length for stereo > photography. > > George > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:13:50 2009 Received: (qmail 7016 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:13:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:13:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C6CE18178 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A6CE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB2A34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468B634AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:43 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2459561bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.142 with SMTP id e14mr477671hbc.69.1249913621958; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:13:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7FAC78.6010707@gmail.com> References: <4A7E161B.5040202@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7E4721.1030602@gmail.com> <4A7EB992.4000508@chucknorcutt.com> <4A7FAC78.6010707@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:13:41 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b96eb01ddcd677bd Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] 35mm lens? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:13:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802b1e130149730998309 > > Yes, I think it's clear that there was a continuous development of MC > technology during that time. > I absolutely agree. My 100/2.8 is smack in the middle of the transition. It has every color except green and has distinctly different reflections than earlier ones. Gary and I suspected that our particular series used radioactive elements due to other characteristics, but the geiger counters remained silent. We found no evidence of any 100/2.8 using rare-earth elements, but we did find that there was a short period of time where the 100/2.8 was completely unlike any other one before or after. When other list-members have looked through my 100/2.8, the response has been uncanny--everything from "wow" to "that's different". I know that Gary was impressed enough with his similar lens that he cabbaged it away while selling his other copies. We determined that not only were the coatings different, but so was the optical formula as we found evidence that the aperture blades were even moved. It's been a long time since that research and we didn't adequately document it for the ages. The 35/2.8 which now graces my camera bag is also similar. It is firmly in the silvernosed, single-coated category, but exhibits colors (except for green) unlike my previous one or other single-coated lenses. The serial number of this lens is just prior to the MC switchover--it's one of the last SC/AG lenses. (SCAG?) I have little problem with flare with this lens and what flare is there is well controlled. The 35/shift (which was mine, now Joel's, but in indefinite storage with me--long story), is black-nosed, but has earlier SC coatings. It is VERY flare-prone and reminds me of my other early SC lenses. AG Schnozz -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:17:29 2009 Received: (qmail 32411 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:17:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:17:28 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6093DE182AF for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77725E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685BC19E7B9 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909D719E764 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2713701fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.2 with SMTP id f2mr6128533bkg.90.1249913838441; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:18 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908100717r50e9d3a1x4fc0bf360a3a41ff@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:17:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802bf993391073733319 Wow, nice catch Ken. A little closer and they won't have to decommission that library. Charlie On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > A severe thunderstorm rolled through Grinnell, Iowa a couple hours ago and > I > couldn't refuse the opportunity to get out in it and shoot. As I've been in > the midst of photographing the library before it is decommissioned, I > thought that maybe it might make a good subject. > I rode out the storm in my jeep just on the edge of town out in the open > away from trees and power-lines. A good thing, too. Power went out as so > many trees and branches got blown down that the city had to use a snow-plow > to clear the streets. The rain and hail was so intense that visibility was > near zero and what I could see wasn't very comforting as the power poles > were swaying. I moved the jeep to keep the nose pointed into the wind as I > didn't want the side windows to blow out from hail or the jeep to get > rolled. One of the strongest winds I've been out in. The lightening was > incredible with this storm and I haven't seen this much cloud-to-ground > lightening in years. > > I went downtown and parked (somewhat illegally, but who cares) across the > street from the library and shot through the driver's window of the jeep. > It was still raining and the camera (and me) was getting drenched. > Fortunately, the E-1 and 14-54 are up to the task. I had to repeatably > wipe > the lens off and longed for one of those new-fangled UV filters that water > doesn't stick to. :) > > To hold the camera steady, I had it mounted to a monopod and it was jammed > between the door and the seat. Plenty stable, except for the wind-gusts > rocking the jeep. > > It was just a matter then of waiting for a flash of lightening to > photograph > and reflexes fast enough to get it. There were a lot of flashes I didn't > get, but this one I did. No, it didn't actually strike the building, but > was about four seconds away. > > www.zone-10.com > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:18:22 2009 Received: (qmail 13424 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:18:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:18:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F478E18174 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F68DE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC50D34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7846734AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:52 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.240]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO5003ZMZPA6A60@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:17:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A802C03.2060605@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:39 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com><60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:18:22 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802c2e259981220213263 Yes, they are the worst. Too many past hassles to bring up. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html DrT (George Themelis) wrote: >> Please see the following run! don't walk away! >> http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Cambridge_Camera > > I love this review: > > "I have an idea. Take $100 and flush it down the toilet. That is all you > will get from this "company". " > > George > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:34:06 2009 Received: (qmail 6405 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:34:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B56DE182B5 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4808CE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE9134AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7AF34AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.240]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO600F9M0G08B52@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:33:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A802FC5.4060507@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:33:41 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <8CBE7263444E7C9-C84-1849@WEBMAIL-MY28.sysops.aol.com> In-reply-to: <8CBE7263444E7C9-C84-1849@WEBMAIL-MY28.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:34:06 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a802fde48601234514069 Current MR9s take the 386 SO battery,. 357 is too thick. Battery is extra. ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html usher99@aol.com wrote: > This UK company which makes or markets the adapter mentions the > change.? The exact dimenson difference and mAh can be be > > > looked up at microbattery.com.?? I don't think Tim had profiled the > discharge curves for the 386.?I suppose I would want the battery cap > screwed down nice and tight---75% of forever may be long enough for > the batteries.? > > > Mike > > > ? > > > ? > > > http://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_mr9_adapter.htm > > > ? > > > ? > > > I must have been one of the first to buy the new MR9s from John. He > > included 357s with them. I noticed that the battery cap wouldn't > screw > > quite all the way down. The meter worked, but something wasn't quite > > > right. I let John know about the change. Seems CRIS made the change, > > > with battery requirement duly noted in small print on the package, > > without giving resellers a heads up. > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:35:26 2009 Received: (qmail 9688 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:35:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:35:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE3BE182B8 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C20E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F60034AC00A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBA834AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:35:19 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7AEZGc8001407 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:35:18 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> <14883a8b0908100706l73217340r441cdf56c3f42370@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:35:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:35:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80302e296869730998309 Hi Charlie, You may be correct. We have looked through all of our references, and can't find a photo that matches it, but there are a lot of varieties out there. Thanks for the kind words. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Geilfuss" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > Very nice Jim. My Dad used to grow a lot of those: Cosmo? > > Charlie > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Jim Nichols > wrote: > >> With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT >> followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an image >> of >> my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get >> some of my own next year. >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html >> >> Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:42:13 2009 Received: (qmail 25902 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:42:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:42:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7927AE18177 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C01BE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF6834AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE13A34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (omtech1@verizon.net whitelisted) Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([173.77.213.240]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KO600AFS0U273O8@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for olympus@thomasclausen.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <4A8031BF.70704@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:42:07 -0400 From: John Hermanson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:42:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8031c5184121076813867 B & 60 are mechanical (if working properly). ___________________________________ John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com Olympus OM Service since 1977 Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html Ken Norton wrote: >>> 2. Ability to take hours-long time-exposures in sub-zero temperatures, >> ??? The OM-4(T), like the 2/2n/2S, have fully mechanical B setting, so I >> don't see the difference here... >> > > > Bulb is not mechanical, it's still electronic. The "red" color of the "B" > is misleading. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:50:52 2009 Received: (qmail 18409 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:50:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:50:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4ABFE181B1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1782AE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE28619E87C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10F819E82E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2737008fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.205 with SMTP id m13mr424812hbd.87.1249915844218; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:50:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0908100717r50e9d3a1x4fc0bf360a3a41ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <14883a8b0908100717r50e9d3a1x4fc0bf360a3a41ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:50:44 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6108874d62348a05 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Lightening and Weather Sealing Strike Again X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:50:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8033cc218595683411216 > > Wow, nice catch Ken. A little closer and they won't have to decommission > that library. > LOL. There was a smoldering tree less than two blocks away. We had substantial lightning damage around town. I missed the one shot, though. A few minutes later I was trying to get the lightning over the big Catholic church in town. A beautiful structure. The cloud-to-cloud lightning of the storm cell in that direction was awesome. I tried for maybe 20 minutes to get the shot, but the lightening wasn't bright enough to overcome the brightness of the sky in a one-second exposure. Finally, the time had come for me to head on home, and I took the camera off the monopod and set it down. A moment later, there was this awesome fork of lightning that snaked across the sky over the church. It must have broken apart and spread across in at least 10 legs taking at least two seconds to accomplish. Absolutely wonderful. Oh, well. At least I enjoyed it. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:51:50 2009 Received: (qmail 23210 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:51:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:51:49 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3348E180CA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98BDE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E5919E87C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE38819E870 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2482850bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.175.146 with SMTP id n18mr448441hbf.16.1249915895395; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:51:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A8031BF.70704@verizon.net> References: <4A8031BF.70704@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1ed6438b7a2e2be0 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:51:50 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a803406145315683411216 > > B & 60 are mechanical (if working properly). > Now you tell me.... I do suspect that the OM-2S is different, though. I'll test it tonight. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:52:56 2009 Received: (qmail 21742 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:52:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:52:55 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16512E18178 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C74E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236CF19E87C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BE819E897 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2738543fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.174.76 with SMTP id i12mr455640hbf.62.1249915969943; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:52:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A802C03.2060605@verizon.net> References: <60f983080908040052p4755401ehd6630c47a83d0e45@mail.gmail.com> <60f983080908082003l308d1339q6d934d75af2976b9@mail.gmail.com> <4A802C03.2060605@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:52:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1467d37ff577d609 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] [WTB] Lidicolset 66 set for Durst M370 Easy Color X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:52:56 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a803448116281076813867 > > Yes, they are the worst. Too many past hassles to bring up. > Even worse than "Abe's of Maine"? Wow, that's quite the honor. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:53:48 2009 Received: (qmail 18388 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:53:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:53:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1C7E181B1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71A3E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ED019E897 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B013319E88C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2484142bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.153.193 with SMTP id a1mr420894hbc.105.1249916021195; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:53:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:53:41 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ba2c6f9e8dc15893 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:53:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80347c4324877110844 > > Email=24/7. Bill Barber > Work and Honeydo=24/7 AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:55:57 2009 Received: (qmail 20534 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:55:56 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A193EE181B2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4311EE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E27219E897 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:55:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D05119E893 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:55:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59573C971B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:24:29 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <091D3FED-94D6-4989-A0B3-C4CBDC2E4468@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7FF79F.7000801@chucknorcutt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:49 +0100 References: <4A7FF79F.7000801@chucknorcutt.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Another problem with Photoshop X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:55:57 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8034fd210302517112723 Chuck You're meant to de-activate from the Help menu of the application before changing computers. It's a real pain as I just forget in the excitement of changing computers. Chris On 10 Aug 2009, at 11:34, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > What is the proper procedure? Call ahead of time to have the current > copy deactivated, or, do you literally have to uninstall and re- > install? > > Chuck Norcutt -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:56:43 2009 Received: (qmail 19602 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:56:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:56:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7671AE1817A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BE7E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29A619E8A6 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:56:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7569019E87C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (nsurit@aol.com whitelisted) Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7AEuPPL012817 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:56:25 -0400 Received: from NSURIT@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id 6.c48.3e99843b (39329) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:56:20 -0400 (EDT) From: NSURIT@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:56:58 EDT To: olympus@thomasclausen.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] R.I.P. - 200EG X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:56:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80352b270701234514069 Hmm. Yes (had better) = 100% In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:53:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken@zone-10.com writes: > > Email=24/7. Bill Barber > Work and Honeydo=24/7 AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 16:59:17 2009 Received: (qmail 4752 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 14:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:59:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41AAE182B2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537FE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C152B19E8E4 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261A419E6BC for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2742923fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.137 with SMTP id c9mr5672368bkk.192.1249916348278; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols> <14883a8b0908100706l73217340r441cdf56c3f42370@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:59:08 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908100759q2022264bo7993fe12b2b63905@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 16:59:17 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8035c5142913900897491 I believe they are Jim. Try here: http://plantanswers.tamu.edu/flowers/cosmos/cosmos.html My Dad grew a lot of these and the beauty of them (in addition to their appearance) is that they re-seed themselves every year. He used to bring me plastic bags full of seeds. Charlie On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jim Nichols wrote: > Hi Charlie, > > You may be correct. We have looked through all of our references, and > can't > find a photo that matches it, but there are a lot of varieties out there. > Thanks for the kind words. > > Jim Nichols > Tullahoma, TN USA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Geilfuss" > To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > > > > Very nice Jim. My Dad used to grow a lot of those: Cosmo? > > > > Charlie > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Jim Nichols > > wrote: > > > >> With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where UT > >> followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an image > >> of > >> my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to get > >> some of my own next year. > >> > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html > >> > >> Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. > >> > >> Comments and critiques welcomed. > >> > >> Jim Nichols > >> Tullahoma, TN USA > >> -- > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >> > >> > > -- > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 17:32:00 2009 Received: (qmail 6620 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 15:31:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 15:31:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADD5E18063 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76036E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661DB19E9C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900F019E9BA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jez.cunningham@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so480270fga.13 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.92.13 with SMTP id p13mr3290536fgb.43.1249918312192; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:31:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A801A70.6090408@chucknorcutt.com> References: <8CBE5878DFD5909-114-218F@webmail-mf14.sysops.aol.com> <9f07ac840908070809h4ecb3897p92d8c3d9b8f7ecf@mail.gmail.com> <4A7C5B22.6080806@verizon.net> <4A8010D8.3010804@verizon.net> <4A801A70.6090408@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:31:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 465275ab946c93d1 Message-ID: <9f07ac840908100831i7ba541f1re5d3745079cc0e7c@mail.gmail.com> From: Jez Cunningham To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Time to ask this question - batteries for OM-1? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 17:32:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a803d70135755034211378 After my PayPal dispute the owner was named as Canyon Consulting. On the sr44.com website they also point to PlainBrownWrapperBatteries.com but that domain is redirected to the GoDaddy site hosting company. Jez On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Chuck Norcutt < chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com> wrote: > Perhaps chase down the ownership of the site > > and find out where he lives and pursue it with local authorities. > > Chuck Norcutt > > John Hermanson wrote: > > To anyone with internet know-how: who do you complain to when a website > > is committing fraud? > > ___________________________________ > > John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > > 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > > 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > > Olympus OM Service since 1977 > > Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > > > > > > John Hermanson wrote: > >> Amazing, I had the same problem with them and it seems like years ago. > >> I can't believe that site is still up and taking money! > >> ___________________________________ > >> John Hermanson | CPS, Inc. > >> 21 South Ln., Huntington NY 11743 > >> 631-424-2121 | www.zuiko.com > >> Olympus OM Service since 1977 > >> Gallery: www.zuiko.com/album/index.html > >> > >> > >> Jez Cunningham wrote: > >>> Warning - don't use www.sr44.com - site accepts orders and payments > but is > >>> out of business - I had to file a PayPal claim to get my $$ back. > >>> > >>> Microbattery.com seem to be the right guys to use now. > >>> > >>> Jez > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > >>> > >>>> Not wishing to speak for Dr. Battery but the below linked high drain > >>>> 357's are essentially the SR44 equivalents. I don't think Tim has > >>>> formally tested their discharge characterisitcs, however. The hybrid > >>>> 357/303's seem to do fine, > >>>> but I like the ones below for my 4T. > >>>> > >>>> Mike (student of Dr. Battery) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/lx5ssr > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I am still feeding off a large purchase of Everyready 357 batts which > >>>> were the favorites of Dr Battery (Tim Hughes), until Everyready > >>>> changed the form factor of the 357 slightly so that they don't fill > >>>> the battery cavitiy of an OM-2-4Ti as well as before (though they > >>>> still work AFAIK) > >>>> > >>>> IIRC SR44s retain the proper form factor, so the general drift I > >>>> believe has been toward the best deal on those, but I don't recall > >>>> that Dr. Battery had a favorite among these. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > >>>> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > >>>> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > >>>> > >>>> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 17:32:48 2009 Received: (qmail 26460 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 15:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 15:32:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F9DE18069 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB088E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E44819E9C3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16B119E9CA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail123c26.carrierzone.com (mail123c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.133]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail123c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7AFWGXd030155 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:32:18 GMT Message-ID: <9D1821C7FB2741FBBF05C2AE08DD1D5F@jimnichols> From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <585CABCE85D6453089F9782DD14834B2@jimnichols><14883a8b0908100706l73217340r441cdf56c3f42370@mail.gmail.com> <14883a8b0908100759q2022264bo7993fe12b2b63905@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:32:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 17:32:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a803da0212781234514069 Thanks for the link, Charlie. Yes, they appear to be a darker shade of the yellow Cosmos. I have bookmarked the link. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Geilfuss" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country > I believe they are Jim. Try here: > > http://plantanswers.tamu.edu/flowers/cosmos/cosmos.html > > My Dad grew a lot of these and the beauty of them (in addition to their > appearance) is that they re-seed themselves every year. He used to bring > me > plastic bags full of seeds. > > Charlie > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jim Nichols > wrote: > >> Hi Charlie, >> >> You may be correct. We have looked through all of our references, and >> can't >> find a photo that matches it, but there are a lot of varieties out there. >> Thanks for the kind words. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charles Geilfuss" >> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" >> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Tennessee is BIG ORANGE Country >> >> >> > Very nice Jim. My Dad used to grow a lot of those: Cosmo? >> > >> > Charlie >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Jim Nichols >> > wrote: >> > >> >> With football (the USA kind) coming up, and living in Tennessee where >> >> UT >> >> followers bleed orange, I thought it was appropriate to capture an >> >> image >> >> of >> >> my neighbor's orange flowers. They are collecting seed, so I hope to >> >> get >> >> some of my own next year. >> >> >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Flower+038.jpg.html >> >> >> >> Oly E-510 and Leica Elmarit-R 60/2.8 Macro at ISO 800. >> >> >> >> Comments and critiques welcomed. >> >> >> >> Jim Nichols >> >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> >> -- >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus >> Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ >> Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ >> >> > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 17:50:13 2009 Received: (qmail 1354 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 15:50:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 15:50:12 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA382E18256 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7DDE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA0134AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E444834AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:50:06 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (jhnichols@lighttube.net whitelisted) Received: from mail124c26.carrierzone.com (mail124c26.carrierzone.com [64.29.152.134]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:50:06 -0700 (PDT) X-POP-User: jhnichols.lighttube.net Received: from jimnichols ([69.196.214.117]) by mail124c26.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id n7AFo3H9012153 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:50:05 GMT Message-ID: From: "Jim Nichols" To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" References: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:50:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 17:50:13 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8041b5228721744846740 Nathan, I would have to pick Alt 1 this week. That is a great shot. Jim Nichols Tullahoma, TN USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" To: "Leica Users Group" ; ; "Olympus Camera Discussion" Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:44 AM Subject: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante > This really is the middle of the summer. The pictures this week are a > varied bunch, like the week before. There are some arid landscapes, > cute animals, the beach, women of various ages (with their consent for > the most part) and some two-wheeled traffic. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=275 > > And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 18:28:09 2009 Received: (qmail 24543 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 16:28:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 16:28:08 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3F0E18064 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A967CE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990A519EBAA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E80E19EBC3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2540628bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:28:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.67.14 with SMTP id p14mr576538bki.185.1249921679824; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:27:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <92048.38630.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <92048.38630.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:27:59 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908100927k77e6945eo5b53c6ae67e684e2@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus contest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 18:28:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a804a99195921006886880 Ali I hope you are doing well. I got word this morning from my Buffalo in-laws that you guys had some nasty weather yesterday. Keep dry. Charlie On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:42 AM, AS wrote: > > Enter to win tickets to the Olympus US Open Series and shoot with the > newest Olympus cameras. > > Send an email to my.proof@olympus.com with your name, email, phone number > and mailing address for the chance to win four tickets to the Olympus US > Open Series tournament in Cincinnati and the opportunity to test drive the > new Olympus E-P1 or the STYLUS TOUGH-8000 camera. > > By emailing us you will be entered to attend the event (winners chosen at > random). After you=92ve shot at the event, post your still images and vid= eos > to our Get Olympus Facebook page. The community will vote on the best > submissions and you could win the new Olympus E-P1! > > Transportation to the event will not be provided by Olympus. > > > > > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 19:06:04 2009 Received: (qmail 6754 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 17:06:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 17:06:04 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5CFE18065 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B98E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A29434AC008 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E77A34AC005 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (watershed@interisland.net whitelisted) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [69.7.46.18]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patos.interisland.net (patos.interisland.net [127.0.0.1]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583D1314086 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [69.7.49.107]) by patos.interisland.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A0631405F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A805383.60301@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:06:11 -0700 From: Mike Lazzari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090810-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on patos.interisland.org Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t eats batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 19:06:04 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80537c252731342116753 > > You're definitely using silver-oxide types? Yes. My batteries were all 357's. The new ones were SR44W and MS76 that I found in a drug store. They were all drained within a few minutes. Only managed a couple of photos before the lock up. The indicator beeped properly when the new batteries were installed and also indicated dead batteries so something is working right however I'm afraid this body is toast if the board is bad. May or more likely may not be worth a visit to John. Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 19:15:46 2009 Received: (qmail 28492 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 17:15:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 17:15:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E5BE180CA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443FDE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F7C34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F5434AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2831528fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.116.212 with SMTP id n20mr244459bkq.97.1249924537797; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:15:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A805383.60301@interisland.net> References: <4A805383.60301@interisland.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:15:37 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908101015v61c7f637gb9d7697cd957fa5a@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] OM4t eats batteries X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 19:15:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8055c281616789618724 Mike, Are you sure the batteries were good when you installed them? I've seen button batteries that have been on the shelf for many years and have had the clerk warn me that he couldn't vouch for them they were so old. Thanks I replied as I put them back on the shelf. Charlie On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Mike Lazzari wrote: > > > > You're definitely using silver-oxide types? > Yes. My batteries were all 357's. The new ones were SR44W and MS76 that > I found in a drug store. They were all drained within a few minutes. > Only managed a couple of photos before the lock up. The indicator beeped > properly when the new batteries were installed and also indicated dead > batteries so something is working right however I'm afraid this body is > toast if the board is bad. May or more likely may not be worth a visit > to John. > > Mike > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 19:17:44 2009 Received: (qmail 28642 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 17:17:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 17:17:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3779E1822C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8EAE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E1534AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B208534AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE08461514 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:42:19 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <2620C87C-A94A-48CC-822A-F925811CBE6D@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A800902.6070003@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:17:36 +0100 References: <4A800902.6070003@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: [OM] Lightning and Weather Sealing Strike Again (nb sp ...) X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 19:17:44 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80563887161076813867 I'm glad that you're happy with it, Ian. But I don't want any lightning near my smooth little MBP baby! :-) Chris p On 10 Aug 2009, at 12:48, SwissPace wrote: > nice shot Ken! , > > Chris, I am guessing one of the safest places to be during a > thunderstorm is in an all aluminium macbook pro - I am glad I went > for > the largest version ;-) > >> I was cycling down our street a couple of weeks ago when a spark >> fizzed from a thumb to the handlebars; almost simultaneously there >> was > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 19:22:26 2009 Received: (qmail 26937 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 17:22:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 17:22:25 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326DEE182AE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FD3E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD27C34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A2D34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp2.freeola.net (smtp2.freeola.net [81.31.99.7]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp2.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE225461590 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:47:02 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:22:20 +0100 References: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 19:22:26 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a805752117391073733319 Thanks, Nathan. I enjoyed that little saunter ... And I agree with Brian, as much as I like the clustering around the ghastly great Honday (:-)), the girl with the kitten is very sweet. Chris On 10 Aug 2009, at 08:44, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > This really is the middle of the summer. The pictures this week are a > varied bunch, like the week before. There are some arid landscapes, > cute animals, the beach, women of various ages (with their consent for > the most part) and some two-wheeled traffic. It is all here: > > http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=275 > > And as always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 19:24:30 2009 Received: (qmail 19307 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 17:24:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 17:24:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3B8E1807A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B08FE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CABD19EE0C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99A819EE14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ftog@threeshoes.net whitelisted) Received: from smtp1.freeola.net (smtp1.freeola.net [81.31.99.6]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [62.249.223.39]) by smtp1.freeola.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AFDC96D5 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:53:03 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <996D5ED9-824E-4B78-9D70-A72D2D834C25@threeshoes.net> From: Chris Barker To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A7FB5BD.8080804@picturepedia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:24:23 +0100 References: <4A7FB5BD.8080804@picturepedia.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Week 32 - few fotos for fun X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 19:24:30 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8057ce112241744846740 Thanks, Ian. I did spot the irony of the vine and Biergarten, but the clay dog was excellent. Chris On 10 Aug 2009, at 06:53, SwissPace wrote: > Here you will find this weeks few fotos for fun (6 images) - I hope > you > enjoy at least one of them, I had to break my rule of having more than > one flower shot but they are all quite different. > > > > > > Ianw wishing you a good start to the week. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 20:10:10 2009 Received: (qmail 28267 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 18:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 18:10:09 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B4AE18069 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62751E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5759E34AC008 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CA734AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:01 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2862235fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.16 with SMTP id b16mr477982hbc.50.1249927800120; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:10:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0908100927k77e6945eo5b53c6ae67e684e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <92048.38630.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <14883a8b0908100927k77e6945eo5b53c6ae67e684e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:10:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cd5d6c7202587275 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus contest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 20:10:10 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a806282103512439112457 > > Ali I hope you are doing well. I got word this morning from my Buffalo > in-laws that you guys had some nasty weather yesterday. Keep dry. > My wife's family is a little weird, but I've never called them "Buffalo in-laws". What defines a "Buffalo in-law"? AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 20:17:46 2009 Received: (qmail 29090 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 18:17:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 18:17:45 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A60EE181B1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2FEE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138BE34AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6608134AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:41 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so2866606fxm.37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.174.76 with SMTP id i12mr481009hbf.62.1249928259750; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <62315C45-66B4-45EB-867F-603E4B84503B@frozenlight.eu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:17:39 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b3e342afd4972b76 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 20:17:46 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80644a107791073733319 BTW, In looking at the pictures of the ruins, I'm going to guess that it was destroyed by fire. The roof of the tallest structure fell and took part of the walls with it. Very common type of damage. Judging from the unchecked wear on the driveway stones, the pool, and stuff, I'd guess that it happened 25-30 years ago. It definitely was a nice place in its day, though. I'm sure there is a story behind it. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 20:19:43 2009 Received: (qmail 21949 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 18:19:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 18:19:43 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9281DE18245 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB430E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DDB34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EF634AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:39 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8576 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 18:19:37 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 18:19:37 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8064B9.5040200@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:19:37 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A8031BF.70704@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090810-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] This looks like a deal - 300mm & 100mm Zuiko glass at $299 X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 20:19:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8064bf129793900897491 Nope. The 2s acts just like the 4. I just checked it. I even removed the battery cap to be sure no clandestine batteries had been in on an asaist. Hmmm. It was the first time I've picked up the 2s in a long, long time. It felt good. :-) Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: >> B & 60 are mechanical (if working properly). >> > > Now you tell me.... I do suspect that the OM-2S is different, though. I'll > test it tonight. > > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 20:21:17 2009 Received: (qmail 32172 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 18:21:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 18:21:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97215E1806A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E569E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A1734AC005 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAB334AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:21:11 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10141 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 18:21:11 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 18:21:11 -0000 Message-ID: <4A806516.4010004@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:21:10 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7FF79F.7000801@chucknorcutt.com> <091D3FED-94D6-4989-A0B3-C4CBDC2E4468@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <091D3FED-94D6-4989-A0B3-C4CBDC2E4468@threeshoes.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090810-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Another problem with Photoshop X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 20:21:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80651c55001234514069 Yup, so I see. Thanks. Chuck Norcutt Chris Barker wrote: > Chuck > > You're meant to de-activate from the Help menu of the application > before changing computers. It's a real pain as I just forget in the > excitement of changing computers. > > Chris > > On 10 Aug 2009, at 11:34, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > >> What is the proper procedure? Call ahead of time to have the current >> copy deactivated, or, do you literally have to uninstall and re- >> install? >> >> Chuck Norcutt > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 20:32:18 2009 Received: (qmail 16958 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 18:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 18:32:17 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1531FE18069 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF73E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CE83610001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD7B34AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (charles.geilfuss@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2607168bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.51.18 with SMTP id b18mr2448804bkg.9.1249929131516; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <92048.38630.qm@web39806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <14883a8b0908100927k77e6945eo5b53c6ae67e684e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:32:11 -0400 Message-ID: <14883a8b0908101132q122b9ba0s8174d2b32f7b61fc@mail.gmail.com> From: Charles Geilfuss To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus contest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 20:32:18 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8067b2111816107113666 In-laws that live in Buffalo? CJG On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Ken Norton wrote: > > > > Ali I hope you are doing well. I got word this morning from my Buffalo > > in-laws that you guys had some nasty weather yesterday. Keep dry. > > > > > My wife's family is a little weird, but I've never called them "Buffalo > in-laws". > > What defines a "Buffalo in-law"? > > AG > -- > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 21:38:53 2009 Received: (qmail 20034 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 19:38:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 19:38:48 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C21FE1822C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED44E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A482F34AC00C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330DF34AC00B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.62]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 50028 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 19:38:23 -0000 Message-ID: <754478.49094.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: R9TejXgVM1k2tNfGlZXpPLE7m6l1XTD5hlyI4SKJgfti7hZljpZ9NXDeQmoi9pb4GDHZQOc87xh1rYLbgXyIRFiiRd5j4tMtj4JPZsTk.Lj2gOZhGT7aCiIrVBdkVYMabtiH7m.rs4PWS5Y4vZpusDb0F1ZG2hP95QNxPKjulwCPoGGmNDXeaaNMd15s_AN1ozH98EiQ0ARP8B..Adi7FyE7_rAR2bVyx4TUABO.YV1hx2uQ2dySUucCho0VF_PWS3l07pyAF6zfpVt3h4kdeHwT0yBdJM973bQZPJ_d.Ovbq.rnTAzkahPJTZS5Sx9_fNarVRdWVGV9c1jkdCXehI91flpLTQIr158OFiX9HvTPfR4ApQ-- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:23 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:38:23 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <14883a8b0908101132q122b9ba0s8174d2b32f7b61fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus contest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 21:38:52 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80774c112041136683642 South of Buffalo got pummeled - many areas are under emergency flood watch.= Some power outages, down trees, and even tornado sightings. On my side of = the town (North of Buffalo) it was heavy rain with thunder and lightning. > = > > > > > >=A0 Ali I hope you are doing well. I got word > this morning from my Buffalo > > > in-laws that you guys had some nasty weather > yesterday. Keep dry. > > > > > > > > > My wife's family is a little weird, but I've never > called them "Buffalo > > in-laws". > > > > What defines a "Buffalo in-law"? > > > > AG > > -- > >=A0 > _________________________________________________________________ > > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > > > > > -- = > _________________________________________________________________ > Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus > Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ > Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ > = > = = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 21:40:49 2009 Received: (qmail 27898 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 19:40:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 19:40:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5378E180CD for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60597E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516CA19F91E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FCE19F910 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (alizookoman@yahoo.com whitelisted) Received: from web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.106.69]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8151 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 19:40:35 -0000 Message-ID: <181401.7903.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: k06BWdUVM1lWHrlSBAIh4vhnIZEzCxvQXGTdRrnY6TtHs_NA7Oj2DBnvGHjFiPKVuPj4O896Ik4Qx7fCjxk_i_wQJCsZjLzXrD7uqrShsIZam6fTAnD5BYZP8NMMyYA_LH1_D96RdQBsYsfRLQGqIV5oBFR5tMxr4ru.XAbhGDrlaOCXYSUeaXEtoPlx6i7GGY409QVo3VwxAOpf8sPKu_tIOmuDR6N.GOYwy.VRncmLVtAOEpdvcP_hhy2B_hk_7GPgWnz0VDX.kYH5jE5Bg8L14ZwmxU9GHIxh0J2JCxse6vt1hrtxTf8QIKPEg7QvS9iSHlEQ.E4TvBKxUBWrIQL0arfJUOjj0xLnunaB7XszGPkeQxGTRXYSKW8- Received: from [74.40.196.154] by web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:40:35 -0700 (PDT) From: AS To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4A806516.4010004@chucknorcutt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [OM] Another EP Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 21:40:49 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a8077c1287361413256596 http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0908/camera-corner-olympus-e-p1-review.html "Eli Reed, a Clinical Professor of Photojournalism at the University of Texas at Austin" A clinical professor in Photojournalism!?? -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 21:52:23 2009 Received: (qmail 15874 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 19:52:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 19:52:22 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A56E180CA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760BDE240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC1B34AC008 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225C234AC005 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2648318bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.175.146 with SMTP id n18mr486074hbf.16.1249933930562; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <754478.49094.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <14883a8b0908101132q122b9ba0s8174d2b32f7b61fc@mail.gmail.com> <754478.49094.qm@web39801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:52:10 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c52f3c3e9bb9675c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] Olympus contest X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 21:52:23 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a807a7785871612113968 > > South of Buffalo got pummeled - many areas are under emergency flood watch. > Some power outages, down trees, and even tornado sightings. On my side of > the town (North of Buffalo) it was heavy rain with thunder and lightning. > We've had some nasty storms around the country this weekend. I'm wondering which horseman caused this. Eldora, Iowa got blasted with wind and hail. The crops in the area have 100% losses. On one side of the houses and buildings nearly all windows and siding was destroyed. Hail is an ugly thing. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 22:03:16 2009 Received: (qmail 17039 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 20:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 20:03:16 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841E2E18236 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A591E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D5C34AC005 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82BC34AC001 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 22:03:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a807d04320321413256596 http://www.stevehuffphotos.com/Steve_Huff_Photos/OLYMPUS_EP-1_REVIEW.html -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 22:50:27 2009 Received: (qmail 10232 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 20:50:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 20:50:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894CAE181CC for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1635EE240C0 for ; 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Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:50:13 -0400 Received: from Webmail-mg14 (webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com [64.12.142.162]) by smtprly-dd01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDD017-d3eb4a80880187; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:50:09 -0400 To: olympus@thomasclausen.net Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:50:08 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 209.192.173.2 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: usher99@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 209.192.173.2 by Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com (64.12.142.162) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:50:08 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBE8134841E895-4AC-9FF@Webmail-mg14.sim.aol.com> X-AOL-SENDER: USHER99@aol.com Subject: [OM] Nathan's PAW 31: dog days of summer in Alicante X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 22:50:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a808813230541220213263 Enjoyed your photo peregrinations yet again. You really pulled out the cute card with the kitten...but it was effective. A nice shot. A one cat, no kids, Mike -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Mon Aug 10 23:16:27 2009 Received: (qmail 6427 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 21:16:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 21:16:26 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FEAE182B3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECD9E240C0 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B9134AC00A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A38F34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2690744bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.153.193 with SMTP id a1mr466704hbc.105.1249938979504; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:16:19 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 834d71afbdf528ca Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] The Gotcha of the Great X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Aug 10 23:16:27 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a808e2b183891560218263 I've been in hog-heaven shooting Fujichromes again, but I discovered an old curse that has reared its ugly head again. The Gotcha of the Great! A good 'chrome, such as Velvia or Kodachrome is expensive to shoot. The per-shot cost is very high, and when combined with larger-formats, is difficult to justify. This was true before, and it's even more true today in the world overrun by digital. This is only one side of the equation, though. The reason to shoot Velvia or other high-quality 'chrome is for the quality of the images it results in. You know, for example, how well Velvia enhances colors during the "golden hours"--it takes what is beautiful and extends it into another dimension. But this comes at a price--not just monetory, but psychological. You end up not shooting pictures because you are constantly asking yourself: "Is this Velvia-worthy?" Because of this questioning, you end up NOT taking the picture because you know in your heart that the picture just isn't good enough to commit to a film of this quality. As a result, you miss many photographic opportunities through this "pre-edit" process. A massive advantage of digital over great film is that you are more likely to take pictures of things that you'd never commit a frame of expensive film to. Granted, nearly all of these pictures are "tossers", but once in a while one of these "also-ran" photographs is a winner. The key to survival in the film world is to be willing to waste photographs on experimental or secondary pictures. If you can't get beyond the "Gotcha of the Great", then it may pay to have a second camera loaded with low-cost film or even a digital camera. Save the expensive film for the "I'm making a statement with this photograph". This way, by using dual cameras you won't miss out on the low hanging fruit while you reach for the highest apple. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 00:27:43 2009 Received: (qmail 11157 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 22:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 22:27:41 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C083E18256 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E778EE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF1F34AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:27:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B0234AC00C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:27:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (bwhitmire@roadrunner.com whitelisted) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-web23-z01 ([10.127.132.114]) by cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090810222733876.OPKE17799@cdptpa-smta02.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:27:33 +0000 Message-ID: <20090810222733.JF0SG.176761.root@cdptpa-web23-z01> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:27:33 -0400 From: To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Cc: Ken Norton Subject: Re: [OM] Why this is the way it be? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 00:27:43 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a809edf183481076813867 ---- Ken Norton wrote: > When it comes to the RAW conversions themselves, Olympus Studio2 > out-converts ACR every day of the week--especially for E-3 files. For someone who commences ranting every time Adobe is mentioned, you sure seem to believe to know a lot about its capabilities. For myself, I like CS4 just fine. I liked CS2, also. Not to mention CS3. I suspect I'll like CS5 as well. Maybe better. I spent a lot of time converting .ORF files in both Studio and ACR, and I settled on ACR. Same with .NEF files and Nikon Capture. OEM software may have the odd thing that works better with their own files, but by and large, ACR does me just fine. I don't know for sure, and I'm not going to waste the time trying to find out, but I suspect it's because I process each and every file individually, without a thought to actions and such. I'm not an event photographer, nor do I do portraiture or other types of photography that lend themselves to automated work flows that OEM software may have a leg up on. (Or Lightroom or Aperture, for that matter.) But--BUT--I would add that if you're not doing photography for money, the outlay for Photoshop is a bit much. And depending on what you do photographically for money, it may not be the best option. There are a lot of options out there. Whatever floats your boat. Still and all, Photoshop is a damn fine program with a lot of damn fine features. As much as I liked Picture Window Pro, I didn't hesitate to abandon it for Photoshop. The more time I spend with the various CS versions, the more I like them, and the more I respect the people who engineered them. For me, life's too short to continue, as I once did, trying to find workarounds for the things photoshop does so well. Your milage varies, as we know. --Bob Whitmire www.bwp33.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 00:33:51 2009 Received: (qmail 3212 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 22:33:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 22:33:51 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6068AE181CD for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5A4E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CB919FD36 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71C19FD31 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au whitelisted) Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.183]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.235]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7AMXfou027699 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:33:42 +1000 Message-Id: <200908102233.n7AMXfou027699@mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) Received: from proxy.toll.com.au ([203.11.81.235]) by webmail01.syd.optusnet.com.au with http (user=wayneharridge@optusnet.com.au); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:33:41 +1000 From: Wayne Harridge To: Olympus Camera Discussion Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:33:41 +1000 Subject: Re: [OM] The Gotcha of the Great X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 00:33:51 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80a04f316496789618724 > Ken Norton wrote: > > This way, by using dual cameras you > won't > miss out on the low hanging fruit while you reach for the highest apple. > Geez, I don't even have one OM-3Ti, now you're saying I need 2 ? ...Wayne Wayne Harridge http://lrh.structuregraphs.com -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 01:18:14 2009 Received: (qmail 16875 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 23:18:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 23:18:13 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49FAE1822D for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85577E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE5B19FDA5 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FD619FD9E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (daniel.sepke@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.145]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 14so1136544qwa.26 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.46.8 with SMTP id h8mr3784068qaf.114.1249946287397; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DSPT60 ([216.174.58.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1068817qwd.18.2009.08.10.16.18.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel Sepke" To: "'Olympus Camera Discussion'" References: <993280.14561.qm@web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <993280.14561.qm@web86003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:18:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4a80aaae.c6c1f10a.2a7f.ffffd2d9@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoZXaoaBSjeDTRpQ6qZuX6Q2sUz5AAsratQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [OM] Fang? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 01:18:14 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80aab6222541220213263 John, John H has done several Pen cameras for me including both variations of the Pen S. I have a spares body somewhere that is working but not as pretty as my keepers. Dan S. -----Original Message----- From: JOHN DUGGAN Subject: [OM] Fang? Hi all, Had an interesting day at Colorado Springs flea market. But best buys of the day had to be the 2 cameras. First camera a pristine Olympus-Pen S. This camera is unmarked with a D Zuiko f2.8 lens. Problem..Copal shutter is in need of overhaul. Speeds are off and shutter does not always close until finger is released from shutter release. Pristine Olympus 22.5mm uv filter fitted. Cost $1.00 so I could possibly spring for a repair if I could find someone. Regards John Duggan, Wales, UK -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 01:44:09 2009 Received: (qmail 862 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 23:44:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 23:44:07 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4070E18068 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609C2E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C49234AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:43:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BD634AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:43:55 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (john.duggan10@btinternet.com whitelisted) Received: from web86012.mail.ird.yahoo.com (web86012.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.189.144]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 42757 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 23:43:54 -0000 Message-ID: <200789.40457.qm@web86012.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 298aeGoVM1l8myp8wnxET2w56yW9QW7uY8TlnXX4mFS.2LpnrPMOxVWk52Lq3l6AmjXhumR3UCoKjXi8jS.6Ms0h0paNn_Ktdrp1XkDyFuBTBtTDLwkIxtXhU3hJIeNgV6diFw3WAHEDMXZREZr_N0nkB1Mxxw7cfEnzXSGFkRlN3akF_L5xIrFf3wl61VXDWp2cSuSAris9n.AFTqNQdFQ3Yf_MYvrEL3J4OISKyMUi0EVWofca9Tk3RVoJtpU2ipDQ0ixd4mb2tEHWiCzyGFHsl8wy6lKuJ_Mk5qHsYIvYNfTv0zbI0.p97sBUjtxGlDzG73sKX0Q.Sj0jJlwjsyOH2XeOuqmOn.h49UY- Received: from [70.56.243.139] by web86012.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:43:53 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:43:53 +0000 (GMT) From: JOHN DUGGAN To: Olympus Camera Discussion In-Reply-To: <4a80aaae.c6c1f10a.2a7f.ffffd2d9@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OM] Fang? X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 01:44:09 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80b0c9114261357919056 Dan, Funnily enough I have just been looking at John's site. I did not realise that he serviced Olympus Pen cameras. As a user of Olympus Pens how do you rate the F2.8 lens? I really feel I want to get the shutter repaired...the camera NEEDS to be used. I will probably leave the camera in the States when I leave and get my sister to send it to John H for me. Could prove expensive as I want to get 2 4Ti's and an OM3 serviced as well :-O Thanks for the reply. Regards John Duggan, at present in Colorado Springs, Soon to be in Casper Wyoming. Wales, UK .......................................................................... --- On Tue, 11/8/09, Daniel Sepke wrote: > John, > John H has done several Pen cameras for me including both > variations of the > Pen S. I have a spares body somewhere that is working but > not as pretty as > my keepers. > Dan S. -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 01:54:28 2009 Received: (qmail 23885 invoked by uid 0); 10 Aug 2009 23:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 23:54:27 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE01E18064 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B12E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BEC34AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056F634AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9289 invoked by uid 504); 10 Aug 2009 23:54:20 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 10 Aug 2009 23:54:20 -0000 Message-ID: <4A80B32C.5040902@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:20 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <181401.7903.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <181401.7903.qm@web39808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090810-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] Another EP Review X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 01:54:28 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80b33440265368819438 So, Eli Reed gets sent to the White House to take photos of Barak Obama. = Clearly the guy knows something about taking photos. He carries the = E-P1 with him but is unable to use it since the 14-42 isn't long enough. = Maybe he was one of the guys shooting Professor Gates and Sgt. Crowley = from 50 meters away. :-) But he says: "After I began carrying the = camera everywhere and shooting at random various subjects catching my = eye =96 it seemed as if it took on a life of its own. It got to the point = where I was able to shoot in a fluid way, and without focus problems, = anything I wanted to shoot. I found it very freeing." What's interesting here is that he's using the slowish zoom and says = there are no focus problems. Quite a difference from what others are = reporting. How come? Chuck Norcutt AS wrote: > = > http://www.digitaljournalist.org/issue0908/camera-corner-olympus-e-p1-rev= iew.html > = > "Eli Reed, a Clinical Professor of Photojournalism at the University of T= exas at Austin" > = > A clinical professor in Photojournalism!?? > = > = > = -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 03:03:45 2009 Received: (qmail 8423 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 01:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 01:03:44 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689A7E180B6 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5F3E240E1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F96719FEC5 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:03:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7269B19FED2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 26 days 05:27:53 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-52-207.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.52.207]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7B13Lvo011587 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:03:22 -0300 Message-ID: <4A80C361.5080703@adinet.com.uy> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:03:29 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A7FF79F.7000801@chucknorcutt.com> <091D3FED-94D6-4989-A0B3-C4CBDC2E4468@threeshoes.net> In-Reply-To: <091D3FED-94D6-4989-A0B3-C4CBDC2E4468@threeshoes.net> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] OT: Another problem with Photoshop X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 03:03:45 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80c37190447801554290 The second time it happened to me, I was not changing computers. I was hunting Bonjour, and I didn't know how it got there. CS3 lost its activation, and it was during Saturday ... wait until Monday, while I had bought it three blocks away from home? It was a mad challenge, but I succeeded. Frankly, I don't remember what did I exactly do. Same with a corrupted preferences file in Tiger - with a little help from a friend :-) So, if I ever happen to shoot digital, I shall be prepared. ;-) Fernando. Chris Barker wrote: > Chuck > > You're meant to de-activate from the Help menu of the application > before changing computers. It's a real pain as I just forget in the > excitement of changing computers. > > Chris > > On 10 Aug 2009, at 11:34, Chuck Norcutt wrote: > > >> What is the proper procedure? Call ahead of time to have the current >> copy deactivated, or, do you literally have to uninstall and re- >> install? >> >> Chuck Norcutt >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 03:10:48 2009 Received: (qmail 851 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 01:10:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 01:10:47 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C033E18065 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB6DE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81CC34AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:10:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F7834AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:10:42 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 26 days 05:35:00 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-52-207.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.52.207]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7B1AXxC012116 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:10:36 -0300 Message-ID: <4A80C511.4000208@adinet.com.uy> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:10:41 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] The Gotcha of the Great X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 03:10:48 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80c51821592439112457 Cannot agree more, Ken. Fernando. Ken Norton wrote: > A massive advantage of digital over great film is that you are more likely > to take pictures of things that you'd never commit a frame of expensive film > to. Granted, nearly all of these pictures are "tossers", but once in a while > one of these "also-ran" photographs is a winner. > > The key to survival in the film world is to be willing to waste photographs > on experimental or secondary pictures. If you can't get beyond the "Gotcha > of the Great", -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 04:46:00 2009 Received: (qmail 30276 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 02:45:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 02:45:59 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD39E1806A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B66E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AA819FFB8 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639AE19FFC1 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:54 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2792035bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.16 with SMTP id b16mr536054hbc.50.1249958752287; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:45:52 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aef52d4ffc60072c Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [OM] First sampling of pictures from Colorado X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 04:46:00 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80db68137171560218263 I just posted three pictures up on the www.zone-10.com website from the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve. Velvia and Provia is fairly represented. :) All three shots taken with the OM-4T and 35-80/2.8 zoom just a few minutes of each other. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 04:54:29 2009 Received: (qmail 17285 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 02:54:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 02:54:29 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59510E1822E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A65E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C3519FFDC for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D05B19FFD2 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:23 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (chucknorcutt@chucknorcutt.com whitelisted) Received: from s409.sureserver.com (s409.sureserver.com [216.35.197.101]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2577 invoked by uid 504); 11 Aug 2009 02:54:20 -0000 Received: from cpe-74-67-83-171.stny.res.rr.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (chucknorcutt@74.67.83.171) by s409.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 11 Aug 2009 02:54:20 -0000 Message-ID: <4A80DD5B.70505@chucknorcutt.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:54:19 -0400 From: Chuck Norcutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090810-0, 08/10/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [OM] First sampling of pictures from Colorado X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 04:54:29 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80dd653352439112457 Good shots, nice light, but... they strike me as being a little overcompressed. Not enough smooth change in tone or something. Chuck Norcutt Ken Norton wrote: > I just posted three pictures up on the www.zone-10.com website from the > Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve. Velvia and Provia is fairly > represented. :) All three shots taken with the OM-4T and 35-80/2.8 zoom > just a few minutes of each other. > AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 05:19:15 2009 Received: (qmail 12281 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 03:19:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 03:19:14 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D161E18244 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB3EE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509E634AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:19:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.654 required=7 tests=[SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEC134AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:19:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 26 days 07:43:26 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-52-207.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.52.207]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7B3ImOc020196 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:18:52 -0300 Message-ID: <4A80E323.5090304@adinet.com.uy> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:18:59 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A80DD5B.70505@chucknorcutt.com> In-Reply-To: <4A80DD5B.70505@chucknorcutt.com> X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] First sampling of pictures from Colorado X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 05:19:15 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80e333301456789618724 I may agree with Chuck on the third one, but not in the first. The one in the middle is difficult to judge regarding what he observed, the dunes are in the shadows. Maybe I'm not trained enough to critique any image at a small size. The skies are great, that's for sure. Fernando. Chuck Norcutt wrote: > Good shots, nice light, but... they strike me as being a little > overcompressed. Not enough smooth change in tone or something. > > Chuck Norcutt > > > Ken Norton wrote: > >> I just posted three pictures up on the www.zone-10.com website from the >> Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve. Velvia and Provia is fairly >> represented. :) All three shots taken with the OM-4T and 35-80/2.8 zoom >> just a few minutes of each other. >> AG >> -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 05:43:32 2009 Received: (qmail 1852 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 03:43:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 03:43:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CB7E18191 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F069E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FADB1CD481 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:43:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0055B1A003F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:43:24 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: photorumors.com is listed in jp.surbl.org X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5643 invoked by uid 502); 11 Aug 2009 03:43:22 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 11 Aug 2009 03:43:22 -0000 Message-ID: <4A80E8D3.7060106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:43:15 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?New_=B54/3_camera=3F?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 05:43:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80e8e491379752976205 Here's a possible Panny =B54/3 without "prism" hump. As expected, no = optical finder or EVF. = http://43rumors.com/ft2-panasonic-gf1-pictures/ Interesting styling. Oly went with retro-Pen nostalgia. Panny seems to = be aiming directly at the Canon G series. Makes a lot of sense to me. = The G series have been big sellers. I'll bet a lot of the owners have = picked them as a compromise, as there has been nothing small, but with = closer to DSLR IQ that's really usable. That's certainly a major reason = I have my alternate-G A650. The 45mm Macro-Elmar is certainly Leia labeled, and one might assume the = shown 20mm pancake will be as well. What I suspect will be better lenses and Panny's better AF to date will = be appealing to many. Personally, I've never been interested in the = Pens, range/viewfinder or F, and the G-ish styling is more to my taste. AG semi-claims that many parts of the Panny's are made by Oly, so any = =B54/3 sale is money in Oly's pocket. Still ... The E-P1 continues to puzzle me. Oly has labeled it a consumer model and = said that both higher and lower end products are to come. But the = pricing seems pretty high end to me. It looks to be essentially a bunch = of E-620 subsystemss, less the relatively expensive SLR viewfinder = components, but it costs $250-300 more. I'm puzzled about the lenses, too. Up to now, Oly's DZs have been above = average by category. What's that all about? Moose -- = _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 05:56:59 2009 Received: (qmail 9096 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 03:56:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 03:56:58 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67553E18034 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68562E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE5B34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E61234AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2808911bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.10 with SMTP id g10mr507886hbc.20.1249963009988; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:56:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A80E323.5090304@adinet.com.uy> References: <4A80DD5B.70505@chucknorcutt.com> <4A80E323.5090304@adinet.com.uy> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:56:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dfde7d672e33e37b Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] First sampling of pictures from Colorado X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 05:56:59 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80ec0b125212013633067 I redid #3 and upped the compression from 91 to 96. I think that a lot of what you might be seeing is just the clouds themselves. AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 06:27:16 2009 Received: (qmail 14650 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 04:27:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 04:27:15 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A12E18246 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0F0E240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E9E34AC002 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 required=7 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF3F34AC001 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com (mail-bw0-f224.google.com [209.85.218.224]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2815552bwz.14 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.3 with SMTP id b3mr484482hbc.114.1249964829079; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:27:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A80E8D3.7060106@gmail.com> References: <4A80E8D3.7060106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:27:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3669fb75b2e3bf48 Message-ID: From: Ken Norton To: Olympus Camera Discussion X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [OM] =?iso-8859-1?q?New_=B54/3_camera=3F?= X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 06:27:16 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80f324321511946193717 A puzzled Moose wrote a bunch of comments about the Panny and Oly micro-43 products. I'm also puzzled that Olympus has taken the approach that it has in the IQ department. The only thing I can think of is that Olympus is aiming for a more "rounded" look to the images, whereas Panasonic is going after the more clinical look of the hyper-sharp look common today. The lenses are definitely an area where I am extremely disappointed. Frankly, I've been excited about the m43 products, but my reasons are less about any specific model and more about the flexibility and future-proofing aspect. Where Panasonic has an equivalent model to the Olympus offering, I've been far more impressed with the Panasonic. Fortunately I am not in the market for a camera right now AND I'm in my "film rules" mode AG -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 06:36:32 2009 Received: (qmail 27147 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 04:36:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 04:36:31 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF80E18057 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2081EE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F4534AC008 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:36:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net X-Spam-Score: 1.771 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.771 required=7 tests=[RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.117, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.654] Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D690334AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:36:26 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: SMTP envelope data boost X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 2 (High) (P1); Accepted (Sender first seen 8 mons 26 days 09:00:44 ago / SPF check softfail: Please see http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=fgnzalez%40adinet.com.uy&ip=200.40.135.1&receiver=tigertech.net) Received: from smtp-2.chasque.net (chasque.chasque.net [200.40.135.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (r190-135-21-180.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [190.135.21.180]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-2.chasque.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7B4aJpo024348 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:36:21 -0300 Message-ID: <4A80F54D.6070200@adinet.com.uy> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:36:29 -0300 From: Fernando Gonzalez Gentile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: <4A80DD5B.70505@chucknorcutt.com> <4A80E323.5090304@adinet.com.uy> In-Reply-To: X-RedChasque-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-RedChasque-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-RedChasque-MailScanner-From: fgnzalez@adinet.com.uy Subject: Re: [OM] First sampling of pictures from Colorado X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 06:36:32 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80f55038899752976205 Much better, to my eyes at least. I like the clouds now and before, but the foreground looks much better. Now, tell me you did nothing at the foreground :-) BTW, what's the need of 'compressing' - I'm not at all familiar with PWPro. Fernando. Ken Norton wrote: > I redid #3 and upped the compression from 91 to 96. I think that a lot of > what you might be seeing is just the clouds themselves. > AG > -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 06:50:41 2009 Received: (qmail 30927 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 04:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 04:50:40 -0000 Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856A7E18228 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827DE240BE for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB4134AC003 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:50:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B64234AC004 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:50:34 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (olymoose@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from server290.com (server290.com [64.14.68.141]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8486 invoked by uid 502); 11 Aug 2009 04:50:32 -0000 Received: from ppp-71-139-200-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (moose@71.139.200.115) by server290.com with ESMTPA; 11 Aug 2009 04:50:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4A80F893.4080900@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:50:27 -0700 From: Moose User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olympus Camera Discussion References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [OM] First sampling of pictures from Colorado X-BeenThere: olympus@thomasclausen.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Id: Olympus Camera Discussion List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 6F6C796D707573 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: olympus-bounces+nilsf=tako.de@thomasclausen.net X-DSPAM-Result: Whitelisted X-DSPAM-Processed: Tue Aug 11 06:50:41 2009 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9997 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 4a80f8a1300632439112457 Ken Norton wrote: > I just posted three pictures up on the www.zone-10.com website from the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve. Velvia and Provia is fairly represented. :) All three shots taken with the OM-4T and 35-80/2.8 zoom > just a few minutes of each other. > Lovely subjects and lovely light! I'd like the combination plate, please. :-) Seriously, 'twere mine, I'd crop 30 even more. Perhaps even more than that, to give a panorama appearance and emphasize the otherworldly look of the area. I know nothing from personal experience about those films, but I don't believe the sky/cloud colors in 7. The original is to the left of this alternate offering. Keep 'em coming. I find this place fascinating so far. Moose -- _________________________________________________________________ Options: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/listinfo/olympus Archives: http://lists.thomasclausen.net/mailman/private/olympus/ Themed Olympus Photo Exhibition: http://www.tope.nl/ From nilsf Tue Aug 11 06:51:35 2009 Received: (qmail 29028 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 04:51:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.tigertech.net) (64.62.209.34) by enforcer.tako.de with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 04:5